Elon treats me like a queen. Elon and I consider ourselves married already. >> This woman is ready to leave her husband to be with billionaire Elon Musk. >> I love you and I just want to be with you. And >> I like to [music] get him hot and bothered while he's at work. An old lady doing that to a young kid. >> Her and her husband are going through a divorce and it's about to be finalized. [music] >> Elon Musk was going to drive a Tesla to our front door with a $100,000 cash in the
back seat and hand her the keys. If I want something, it's mine. >> Betsy uprooted her whole life, packed her things, and was ready to start this new chapter with Elon. >> She believes Elon's coming this weekend to pick her up and take her back to California. >> I'm packing my life. I mean, I'm not Coming back. >> She had taken jewelry and sold. She got rid of all her jewelry that way. >> Yeah, it hurts John very much that I did it. Elon's told me he'll replace every bit of it. >> Join us on
another episode of Scamfish. We'll fly to Texas to try to give Betsy the truth. >> Dallas, here we come. >> But will she accept it? >> I think we're going to have to go above And beyond just to prove that this isn't what she thinks it is. >> All the information that I have, honestly, God points to real. >> I'm telling you right now that you're not going to like what you are going to hear today. >> Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe. [snorts] Your engagement with our videos help us reach new audiences and
can potentially stop other people from being scammed. All right, we're Back. We got another case. This one is from a man who's writing in on behalf of his mother. I'll read the email. Hi, Catfish team. I'm writing in on behalf of my 63-year-old mother who we [music] think has fallen victim to a romance scammer impersonating Elon Musk. He has convinced her to send thousands of dollars through gift cards and sell her jewelry to [music] fund projects he's working on. Despite multiple family interventions, [music] she continues Communicating with him. This person appears intent on draining her
assets and leaving both my parents [music] financially ruined. Any help would be appreciated. Sincerely, Brian. >> Hi, I'm John. I'm from the Dallas, Texas area. I'm 71 years old. >> My name is Brian. I am 39 years old and I am from [music] Fory, Texas. I've always had a strong relationship with my mom. Um, growing up, people would probably characterize me as a mama's boy [music] more so than with my dad, cuz my mom would stay at home. My dad went to work. So, I was always more close with my mom than my dad. >>
I was working in a camera store in in her the mall in her town. And, uh, her best friend uh, she worked for me. So, we met and ended up working for her dad who was in construction. That's our story. We getting to Dallas in ' 83. We've been oh all around the area. >> They've been married for 43 years. So they have always been kind of the example of like what a longlasting relationship looks like. I have never really seen them fight much at all. Um you know they've had their spats but usually they
always get along really well. They always [music] play the part real well. Anyway, um less than 10 years ago, they renewed their wedding vows. So, yeah, they've always been pretty close. >> Despite a seemingly perfect marriage, John started noticing changes in his wife's behavior. >> Betsy would stay up all night, fall asleep on the couch, claiming she's doing this or that, and acting abnormally. >> We sit on the couch every night, just like most couples, and be watching TV. when I picked up my phone. >> While spending her time surfing the web on her phone,
Betsy ended up entering a Contest that would end up changing her life forever. There was a Tesla giveaway. Elon Musk was going to drive a Tesla to our front door with a $100,000 cash in the back seat and hand her the keys. >> Unfortunately, Betsy didn't end up winning the contest, but then she got the surprise of a lifetime. He responded to me and he said he normally doesn't do that but there was something about me that that made him respond to [music] Me. It just kind of escalated from there to where she was on
her phone every time I saw her and she's like a teenager with with that phone hiding it from me. and >> we've been talking since early March and there's been so much conversation. I say conversation, yes, it's texting. Would I like it to be on the phone? Yes, that would be nice. But it's not. And accept that because [music] it is what it is. >> After Elon gained her trust, Betsy felt a spark and ended up falling in love. >> Elon treats me like a queen. from this beautiful angel, this wonderful angel. Just unbelievable. How
are you doing? [music] How's your day going? Have you eaten anything good yet? Have you taken your breakfast? Have you had your lunch? I mean, he's [music] constantly checking on me. I don't know what what he says to her other than a large stream of I love Yous and I just want to be with you and all the romantic stuff that you could imagine someone saying and she's just eating that up. >> We have fun. I like to get him hot and bothered while he's at work. An old lady doing that to a young kid,
but I don't do that often. In addition to their online romance, Elon was helping Betsy by showing her the best ways to invest her money. >> There's a savings program. It's called a Dashboard that he has and it goes for his employees too. And it's basically it is investing >> some of us investment in his company and just some oddball design stuff. He had to for engineers or something. He needed some special funds for that. He could have said anything. I think she was okay. She would go for it. [music] She was going to Best
Buy and getting these razor cards and giving Him the numbers over Zangy. She said Elon Musk wants gift cards. I really don't think so. She got into our bank account and then started doing some cash advances on credit cards. So, we're probably in north of 10,000 at this point, probably 15 cuz she's she had taken jewelry and sold it just, you know, just getting money and sending it to him. She got rid of all her jewelry that way. >> As my own free will, no one held a knife To my throat and it hurts John
very much that I did it. Did I wish I had some of it back, a few pieces, but it's done. [music] It's gone. Elon's told me he'll replace every bit of it. If I want something, it's mine. So that's that's it. It's gone. >> After sending Elon money through selling jewelry, Betsy hit John with devastating news. >> The whole divorce idea, I'm pretty sure, Came from him. >> Up until now, Jon was trying to keep Bets's behavior hidden from the family, but decided to let Brian know his mom is asking for a divorce. He said,
[music] "Your mom is leaving me for somebody online that she thinks is Elon Musk." My immediate thought was just like, "Okay, [music] she's going through a mental issue or something like I don't know. This is unlike my mom. She's always been one of the smarter people that I know. Uh, [music] street smart, very logical. So, this is completely out of character. >> We're getting married. [music] That's the plan. Elon and I consider ourselves married already." They did something online that said, "Okay, you're my wife now. You do what I say." kind of thing. I was
like, "You that's nothing. We're still married. It's invalid." >> It has nothing to do with Elon. And [music] it's just That was just timing. [music] It had been building up already. And this was just this is the time to do it. >> I I know he has never even talked to her. I'm just giving her a phone call or FaceTime or nothing that says this is the person that you're talking with. She's taking videos of our house. She took videos of her of the jewelry. It's just like, wow, what a setup, you know? I got
all this coming to me. Look at this house. So, all he's doing is hanging on, waiting for the divorce to go through and then he can start claiming stuff from her. And I'm still like cooking dinner for whatever she needs and you know put things in the car so she can go send him money. I don't know. Just just trying to be a husband. >> Over the years it seems like my mom is becoming more and more withdrawn. I kind of chocked it up to my moving an hour away instead of being 20 minutes Away
like I was before. and maybe I'm just not as in touch with her as much. >> He doesn't have to take care of me. He's not my protector. He's not the one that has [clears throat] to be there and stand up for me all the time. He's a mama's boy that doesn't know how to let go of mama. >> Now that Betsy was planning to move out of the house and run off with Elon, John and Brian decided to stage an intervention. >> I went over to help him confront her. Basically, my initial reaction was,
he's the richest man in the world. You know, what does he need with you? Why does he need your money? Um, why does he need you to do anything for him? Do you think he actually has time for you? He has like 13 kids and I don't know how many baby mamas that is. And why would he go after a 63-year-old woman who is past her prime who can't give him kids who like I was very delicately trying to ask The question, what is it that you have to offer him? like why of all the
people in the world, why would he pluck you out of millions? And uh she immediately got confrontational. I I mean, I've never seen her this angry. Never. Um she looked like she could be possessed. I mean, she was burying her teeth, turning red. I mean, very angry. Uh you have no idea what you've just done. Elon has satellites that he can aim at the house And blow up the car. And I mean, it was just full-blown like, wow. >> I stood in front of him and I said, "I feel like hitting you right now." >>
She hit me once. She hit my dad once or twice. >> I slugged him. Got a good right hook. >> My sister was listening in on the phone to all this cuz she wasn't wasn't able to be there. She called the local police and had them come out and they were like, "Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a Minute. She hit you." I'm going to have to arrest her now. >> So, I got hauled off to jail. Spent the night in lockup. >> The next morning, Brian and John set out to bail Betsy out of
jail. But before they could get there, Brian received a call from someone who said he was the local sheriff. That's when things took a dark turn. >> They said, "Oh, this is Colin County Sheriff's Office. Uh, we got your mother In here. We're trying to find Next to Ken so we can get somebody to help with her bail money." um so we can let her out today and all that and you know it's exactly what we were doing like perfect timing and like oh gosh we're so glad to you know that you called cuz we've
been trying to figure this out and we didn't know what to do and he said that's $3,400. So he talked me through sending the zel and he said all right I will text you And let you know when she'll be ready and I said okay. He started texting me saying that they had to transporter and there's going to be a transport fee now and that's going to be another $2,000 something dollars. And I was like, nah. Like that. No. So I called the sheriff's office and they were like, "Ah, that doesn't sound right. Let me
find out. Hold on." So they come back and they say, "Oh no, nope. That's a scam." They Fell for it [music] and paid it when in fact it cost nothing for me to get out. They blame me for it. They put me in jail. They get scammed and fall for it. They blame me. >> After Bets's release from jail, she and Elon began making plans for their future. >> He's supposed to come here to pick me up. He said just take the the necessary stuff. And >> if I was 30 years younger or something. Yeah.
I mean, this would be like I'm out of here, but you know, at my age and yeah, it's hurtful. And I'm like, she go, well, he's it's not done yet. I mean, he hadn't shown up, so let's just see how this plays out. Like, okay, so I'm plan B no matter what. So, you don't have a pl So, you'll have a place to live if this falls through. >> Yeah, it's hard. I don't like breaking his heart. I know I am. It hurts me to see him like this. It It's very disruptive. [music] I mean,
everything's destroyed. >> Stick around until the end, seekers. We'll dive into who Bets's been talking to and fly to Dallas to try to get through to her. She said, "If it doesn't turn out to be him, are you going to step up to the plate and be the husband I want you to Be?" Wait, what? >> You told him that. >> If you like this video, please consider subscribing. And once you've done that, give this video a like, too. >> Hey Seekers, if you're only following us here, you're missing half the story. >> Follow Catfish
online on Instagram, Tik Tok, and Facebook for updates and content we don't share on YouTube. With Betsy and John's marriage on the line, our team quickly got together to discuss The information we have and the best way to solve this case. >> So, she's actually expecting Elon Musk to show up at her door any day now. >> Yeah. So, she has all of her bags packed. She has moving boxes, her collectibles, her clothes, everything is packed. And she believes Elon's coming this weekend to pick her up and take her back to California. So, she literally
just packed her stuff. It's sitting there waiting for the day he shows up. >> That's correct. And on top of that, her and her husband are going through a divorce and it's about to be finalized. >> Oh jeez. [music] I mean, I'm pretty sure Elon Musk is the richest or one of the richest people in the entire world. So, what's he doing asking this 63-year-old woman for money? >> So, the family isn't sure right now. They just have an estimate that she's given anywhere from $10 to $15,000. And she's being super secretive about This relationship.
And as of right now, she did get a $1,400 loan just so she can send $1,300 of it to a person she had never met before. >> Yeah. I'm just like really blown away by her believing that Elon Musk would ask her for like a few thousand dollars, right? Like he's in the news right now. His stock is getting ready to go so high that he's going to be a trillionaire. He makes$1 to3 million every hour. >> Like insane. >> What are we doing here? What are we what what's going on? How do we help
her out? Like these are obviously when it comes to [music] the celebrity cases, we got to kind of roll up our sleeves and get a little creative with how we're going to show the information to her and prove that it's not Elon Musk. Yeah, we definitely have to reveal that this is not Elon. And [music] I mean to top it off, her husband has been so patient and willing to go Through all of this and he's [music] sitting on the side while >> about to be her ex-husband, right? >> Yeah. So, he's sitting on the
side while she's like, I want a divorce. Going through the divorce, talking to this profile every day, all day, giving him money. >> But these are these are tough. Like Drew said, like these are tough because [music] um unless the celebrity or this person Comes out and says, "You're not talking to me." A lot of times like they continue going down this like rabbit hole where they think they are. >> So [music] I mean I think if we look at timing of where he's traveling or if we can find anything he's pretty public person like
it's I don't think it'd be very difficult to find out like where he is. Maybe not to the exact second but pretty close. And then we could tee that up with maybe her chats with him and be Like, "Okay, if he's here, how's he chatting with you?" and stuff like that. >> IP tracker, I mean, we've said it multiple times, but it's one of the best things, especially if it's outside of the country, like significantly in a in in [music] a way different place than where he's claiming to be right now. Um, and then also
there might be some news about him too, you know, maybe being in a relationship or something else that we could leverage. So, those are the things We can start with and then as we start collecting more research from her because it doesn't sound like she's given us that much, hopefully there'll be some other clues that we could leverage, you know, leading up to it. >> All right, so it sounds like we got a game plan. Still a little bit more to work out, but I think you guys can do it while you're on the road.
Let's get with Connor. Let's get him on the phone and and start booking these trips and Flights for you guys. >> All right, Dallas, here we come. >> All right, let's do it. While we were beginning our research for Bets's case, Brienne got an urgent text from her asking to give her a call for an update. >> Hi, Brienne. >> Hi, Betsy. How are you? >> Well, pretty good. Our divorce was final on Thursday. Thursday morning. >> Okay. >> It was ju just another day for me anyway. It was a little bit harder for John.
>> So, what was going on in your mind? You just feel like it's it was the right decision and you're feeling good about it. >> Yeah. >> How how is John? >> I know it really hurt him which I feel feel really really bad about. >> Yeah. >> We grew up together basically after 43 years. You know, we we learned a lot together. >> Yeah. But never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect this to happen. And of course he didn't either. So I really feel bad about it. >> Yeah. >> But we grew
apart. >> Mhm. >> And That's the main thing that happened. And >> Yeah. Well, tell me what's going on. You texted me and said that you want to get a flight to California. >> Yeah. I was going through my messages and back early October there was one that said that he wanted me to come see him. >> What happened this weekend? Cuz I thought he was supposed to come to you. >> Well, There's a lot of things. Well, there was a spaceship launch on Saturday night. M. >> So, which I did not realize. So, that
definitely was not going to be on this weekend. He was a little bit busy, which if id known that ahead of time, I never would have thought this last weekend. He didn't tell me those things ahead of time. He's an extremely private person. >> Mhm. >> And And he doesn't tell me that till the last minute. Now, is that the reason why you want to book a flight to California? >> No. Like I said, I was just going through some old old text and ran across this one. >> You know that we've already booked our
flights to Dallas to come see you on Wednesday. So, we're leaving in 2 days. Instead of you spending the money to fly to California, let us continue with our plans to fly to you. We'd like the Opportunity to sit down with you, share what we have found when we conducted this research. >> Honestly, if it is him, Brienne, this if it airs >> Mhm. >> If he were to find out about it, this would ruin my life completely. because I would be a liar. >> Yeah. And it can't [laughter] happen. How How about this? How
about I make you a promise? And I don't do this with anyone. So, I'm going to [music] make you a promise. If he is really Elon, we will not put this video out. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> And I'm terrified if it is and it's on air. My life really is over. >> Yeah. >> Cuz we are planning on getting married. >> Yeah. And if it ever got out that I participated in something like this, he would truly he would leave me [snorts] and my life would be over. >> Don't beat yourself up
too much, Betsy, because there's a reason why we are here, right? >> Yes. We are here because this person that you're talking to has thrown up a lot of red flags that need to be validated. And [music] if you are who you say you are, there should not be any reason to just meet somebody face to face. >> Okay. >> The next night, David, Brienne, and Connor flew straight to Dallas, hoping to get information from Betsy she may not be giving us over the phone. All >> [music] >> right, Betsy. We came here on a
deal, right? So, you didn't want us to come here um and do this because you were really worried that, you know, if the person you're talking to, Elon Musk, you know, one of the world's richest men, finds out about this, it will ruin things between you and him. So, I mean, there's one of two outcomes with this, right? He's either real, and we can Verify 100% that he's real, or [music] it's somebody pretending to be him for some reason. All the information that I have, honest to God, points to real. >> So why are we
here? >> I guess one reason is to shut my son up, but I guess to put myself at ease. >> Is there anything that's happened throughout the relationship that you thought, "Okay, this doesn't make Sense." >> Well, he's asked for money at times. One of the world's richest men's asking you for money. That's like [music] so right. >> Like what is exactly he asking you for? >> It's actually sourcing private money for projects and that you get dividends back on it. >> So how much has he asked you for? >> Maybe 2,000. What is like
I mean you have somebody who's a billionaire, somebody who spent like >> trillionaire. >> Yeah. Trillionaire. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. >> Um somebody who spent billions of dollars on X Twitter, right? Was able to get that money no problem. What does he need $2,000 for from somebody from McKinley, Texas? cuz I'm there. I don't know. >> Where's Elon right now? Where's he saying he's at? This person you're talking to? >> I think he's in California. >> He's in California. Right. So, what we want to start off with is an IP tracker. I would just be like,
"Hey, I booked this flight and I'm I'm headed over to see." And here's the deal. If it's real, we'll book the flight for you and actually send you over, okay? We'll We'll handle that the cost of it. So, if we can just pick a flight >> and then we'll send the flight details. >> I don't know where he where he lives. >> Well, we say, "Hey, I'm coming to California. I can't I can't not see you. Not not see you anymore." >> But ask her to coordinate a pickup from the the airport. Maybe we make
it for December. What do you think about that? >> No, I want to make it for now. >> For now? >> Yeah. because I'm after him for that. But I believe you are Elon Musk, my husband, and I want to be with you finally. >> Why does he call you his Tesla woman? >> Just one of the names he calls me. >> Have you only sent money with uh gift cards? I FedExed I'm trying to remember. I want to say it was 1,400. >> Why would he have you FedEx money? >> It has to do
with one of his satellites. >> That's really the best I can tell you. >> Did you send it to someone here in Texas or was a different place? >> No. And it it was a girl's name. >> Okay. >> And Did you take a screenshot and send it to >> I'm looking for it. >> That's really important right there. >> Yeah. I I see you have your login here. [music] Does he have access to your Apple ID? >> I don't think so. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, I don't know what all he has access to
anymore. Basically has everything on me that you can imagine. Oh, >> but you haven't talked to him or video chat with him. >> No, Brian. >> No. Like, you can't ask me. Like, that's A that's a [music] real like question. >> She called you yourself. >> I know she I know you did. Like, just don't punch me. Um, but like >> she has a good right hook, though. >> I know. I'm worried. Look, like it's a legit question, right? It's like you've given this person everything, but you haven't even talked to this person like online.
>> [music] >> Yeah, >> that's a little scary >> because you're vulnerable. >> Mhm. >> Well, we'll get to the bottom of it. Um, let's The next step is let's try to log into the cash [music] app. We have the FedEx, which I think is a big clue, right? The IP tracker, wherever that hits, that will show us the location of this person. Um, the the thing is is the images of Elon Mus. So, we can't verify if that >> is stolen or not until we we look into it. We'll come back tomorrow and I'm
telling you in the next 24 hours or less, you will have all the answers you need. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Now that we were able to pull some information out of Betsy to research, the team was exhausted from traveling and called it a day. The next morning, we got straight to work. I think with Betsy, no matter what has been told to her by her family, she still keeps believing this is real. She has reasons, excuses why Elon didn't come and see her, why he needs money from her. I think we're going to
have to go above and beyond just [music] to prove that this isn't what she thinks it is. >> I think so, too. Like, it's going to have to be like super concrete evidence. I think the Connie Emmana is a really interesting lead because that person Like received funds. So, I end up finding Conniey's Instagram [music] account. >> Okay. >> And then attached to her Instagram account was this like threads account. So I end up googling [music] the username. >> Okay. >> And then look what I saw. >> She's replying to Elon [music] Musk profile. >>
Yes. 530 of 2025. >> Oh no. So, a few other things that I found out about Connie, she's she's [music] been part of all these like judgments and legal issues. And so, I was looking up like there are like lawsuits, [music] there's litigation that has her name on it, which is really weird. I mean, she's 73 [music] years old, but it looks like she might still be working. So, I was able to find a Connie in Turlock, which Is where the package was delivered, and she [music] works as a at the state of California. So,
there was a a USPS tracking code. So, I plugged in the tracking code. It was delivered on 913. So, literally not too long ago, she just sent this money. >> It was almost 2 months [music] ago. >> And we know that she's already done like cash advances, other things. is like Connie [music] actually signed for this package. So, we know for sure that Connie was the one who received it. >> But look, it's [music] saying signed P. That's not Connie. Also, there's something else. I wanted to [music] show you the IB tracker. So, we have
some results. Last night, [music] after we sent it to Betsy, someone clicked on it 10 times. >> Whoa. >> Yeah. After our new findings, the team packed up right away. We had a small drive to Bets's house from the hotel Room. David, Connor, and Brienne still had a little more time to brainstorm how we were going to get her to realize she wasn't communicating with the real Elon Musk. >> Texas is beautiful. This is nice. >> Yo yo yo, yo. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. >> What? >> I think I just found something. >> What
is it? >> Okay. Wait. Noing way. How far away are We from the house? >> Uh 7 minutes. >> In 2 minutes, Elon Musk is going live for a Tesla shareholder meeting on YouTube. >> What the heck? >> There's 120,000 people waiting in the premiere right now for this live stream. >> So, we go >> We'll wait in the premiere. [laughter] >> I'm waiting. I'm waiting. >> Holy. >> We'll go meet with her and then we'll turn it on while we're meeting with her. >> Exactly. >> That's a great idea. Maybe maybe what we could
do is we could have her send a text message, right, to to Elon while we're watching him live, right? >> Oh, that's perfect. >> And if he responds back, >> there's no easy pro. It's so obvious, right? >> His hand didn't go in his pocket. He Didn't take out his phone and text. >> Wait, guys. I think I can track Elon Musk's actual location. >> What? What the What the hell is going on back there while I'm trying to drive? >> Okay, do you guys remember like maybe like a year or something ago, there was
all these stories about this kid basically he set up a Twitter profile and he was tracking Elon Musk's jet every time it would take off and land somewhere. >> I've never heard of this before. >> Okay, so there was a kid, his name is Jack Sweeney. He set up this whole uh Instagram or Twitter account. So it looks like right now it's not to the day it's delayed 24 hours. Like right now it says he flew from San Jose, California to Austin, Texas. So that would put him in Austin, Texas. >> Is that where Tesla
has headquarters is? >> That's exactly where Tesla headquarters is. >> Wow. >> And the shareholder meeting is starting right now. [laughter] >> Dude, like the timing of this all right. >> It's crazy. >> I think we have everything we need to help Betsy get out of this delusion. >> After about 5 minutes of driving, the team had finally arrived to Bets's house. Oh, >> wait. Oh, wait. [music] Oh, wait. Um, >> is it after that car right there? >> I don't They all look the same. >> Oh, yeah. She has a flag. >> Yeah. >>
You got everything brand? >> Yeah. >> We were confident in everything we were able to reveal to Betsy. We just needed her to be willing to listen. When we arrived, Bets's husband, John, welcome the teen through the door. >> Hi, >> we're here. >> We're here. >> Betsy appeared noticeably more open and even gave Brienne a tour of her house. As we looked around, we noticed boxes lined up through their home. She was packing to move in with Elon. >> The vase that was my mother's So I'm taking with me Mark Bradel right cross is
very very important to me. >> Okay. So, it sounds like we're little cross that I'm taking with me. >> Just a lot of things that are really Important to me. >> Mhm. >> And most of these boxes here are clothes. >> Okay. And >> yeah, don't trip. This box here has a lot of fragile stuff in it. >> Every box told a story. These were things that meant something to Betsy. She wanted to make sure nothing was left behind when she started her new life. >> Just to confirm, you're taking Sophie, This dog with me.
>> Okay, Sophie's going with you. And why not the other ones? >> Because John, >> Elon told me not to take everything. >> Elon Elon told you not to take all of these. >> Just a few things. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Because I can buy anything I want. So, don't take everything out here. >> Okay. >> I have to go slow, but >> yeah, go slow. Take your time. >> It was mindblowing. Bets's husband seemed calm on the surface, but you could tell he was ready for all of this to finally come to an end.
>> But I have a few more things in the case to to pack, too. >> Okay. And this is going in a moving truck. >> I don't know what he's planning. >> Oh, >> I don't know. I have no idea. >> Okay. But yeah, I have lots of stuff. >> Too much going on. >> Yep, there's a lot going on. Valid. That's valid. >> I missed one two weeks ago. >> Okay. >> Same reason. Too much going on. >> There's a lot going on. >> I'm 63. I'm packing my life. >> Yeah. >> That is
the necessities to me. >> Mhm. You can't just I mean I'm not coming back. >> Yeah. >> To this. >> Mhm. >> So it is necessity. >> Yeah. >> The house is to be sold for the decree. So it's not going to be here in 6 months or whatever. I can't say, "Oh, let me go get something." >> Yeah. >> Because it's going to be sold. So, it's just I have a ton of stuff in that walk-in attic. >> Mhm. >> I have shelves of stuff in there. If I don't take it now, >> Yeah.
>> it's gone. >> They have a lot of stuff to to go through. >> So, yeah. Well, >> and you got to get it. >> Mhm. >> We're going to go sit down. We're going To go reveal everything and then we're also going to check the IP tracker. How are you feeling today? I'm nervous. I've cried some. I'm going to cry more. >> That's guaranteed. That's a promise. >> Um, I'm a wreck. I've eaten nothing but junk. [clears throat] I could crawl out of my skin right now. Probably the same stuff you've heard every time
you've done this. It's always different from person to person, but you know, I mean, you're feeling what you you're feeling. And I don't think we should make you wait much longer. I'm curious what the IP tracker has to say. I didn't think you touched it. >> I got a popup that I have 10 clicks. >> I clicked it another time. >> And I clicked it once. >> I mean, I clicked it after you left. >> So, who clicked it the other six times? >> I can't believe he would have done it. >> Yeah. Well, we're
going to >> That makes me think it's not him then. >> Why? because I don't think you'd be stupid enough to do it. >> You saw what it looked like. >> I know. >> And you said you were going to fly, >> right? >> So, I don't know. >> I mean, to me, the link looked really great. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Let's Let's Yeah. I don't want to keep you hanging on the top of the stairs. >> No. >> And I don't want you to fall. No, I do not. I I'm getting nervous. >> I
usually have usually have my cane when I go the stairs. >> Take your time. >> Can you do me a favor? >> Can you send a message to Elon right now? Just [music] >> My phone's in there. >> Okay. Let's Let's get your phone. Yeah, let's send him a message right now. >> Where Where's your phone? >> On the coffee table. >> Betsy was in deep. We needed to handle this ASAP. The team joined her in the living room and it was time to reveal The truth about her relationship with Elon Musk. >> [snorts] >>
What do you call him >> right now? Elon cuz I'm pissed at him. >> Oh, >> well I still call him Elon when I'm not. But sometimes you put honey. And don't push yet. I want to read it. But before we got to the research, David wanted to strike up a conversation with whoever [music] was behind this profile. On Bets's phone, David crafted a message to get this person's [music] attention. This will be very important later on. When he handed the phone back over to her [music] and saw David sent the message without letting her
proofread it, Betsy wasn't happy. >> I told you not to push send yet. >> I did push send. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, I know. >> I saw that. I know. >> I'm not stupid. >> Yeah. I I don't think you're stupid. >> Stupid because I gave it to you. >> Yeah. You were stupid for giving it to me, but you're not stupid. I I didn't think I was going to fool you. >> Look at us starting off on the right foot. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Out. [laughter] >> Oh boy. >> You're not
going to be telling me to get out in a sec. >> Uhoh. >> We have a lot to reveal to you. Okay. Um I know you're not happy with me that I sent that, but we actually want to go through what we have. And we want to start with two things. Okay. So, we actually know where Elon is right now. [music] Do you know? >> No. >> Why don't you know? >> Because he didn't tell me. >> But does that [music] make sense? >> We went over this already. >> No, but these are legit questions.
Would you really want to have a relationship [music] with somebody that just never tells you where they're at? >> It's security reasons. Okay, just tell me then. >> Like, [music] I'm giving you that look because you're making excuses and after us doing the research, I'm telling you Right now that you're not going to like what you are going to hear today. Okay. >> So, I'm going to show this to you [music] because we created the link together last night. We have the ability to create a tracker in the form of a link. We [music] had
Betsy reach out to Elon and let them know, hey, look, like I want to come see you ASAP and [music] here's a flight that I'm looking to book. And so, we linked it to this Website here. 10 clicks, right? 16 total clicks actually. [music] No. >> Do you want to know where he is? his exact location. >> Mhm. >> Nigeria. >> John was right. >> I don't think it's about who's right or who's wrong. It just we want to give you the information so that you can make the best decision for yourself. Hindsight's 2020. It's
so easy when you're on the Outside looking in to judge or to see stuff and when you're living through something maybe you just don't see it. So we know that this person is in Nigeria. >> The other thing so there is a website that tracks Elon Musk's jet locations. So every time Elon Musk's jet lands, takes off, goes somewhere, it tracks location. And guess where the jet landed yesterday? So the jet landed in Austin, Texas. So he's in Austin, Texas. >> Tesla's headquarters in Austin, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's off 130. >> And
guess what's happening today? There's a earnings report for Tesla. So Elon flew from California to Austin for the earnings report and it's a live earnings report. So we did an IP tracker and the IP tracker came back in Nigeria. If there was any chance it was on Mus, There's no way that it could be in Nigeria. So basically, there's an ID on the jet on every plane, there's an ID >> and it's it's all public information because every airport has to be able to track locations of these planes, right? >> And so we know for
sure that it landed Austin, Texas, there's the earnings meeting. So we know, okay, two and two together, he's in Austin for this earning meeting. But I'm looking at the message that like This person's sending you, right? And they're just like, "Why can't you take out a $10,000 loan?" >> Yeah. >> What does Elon Musk Elon Musk paid a billion plus dollars for Twitter and he came up the money in [music] 30 days? >> Right. >> What does he need $10,000 from Betsy for? whenever he comes up with a new I'll say item he self sources
it >> from people like you from his girlfriend from his fiance his wife >> well from whatever but I mean he pays for it comes up with the money himself >> this is what we call a celebrity romance scam [music] so there's a ton of red flags this person claiming to be celebrity in this case Elon asking for you to send money. I mean, even the way he asked for money, [music] he was asking you for razor gift cards. >> So, what happens is these scammers, they take these gift cards and they have a quote
unquote gift card person. >> This gift card person [music] converts it to cash or cryptocurrency for them for 80 cents on the dollar, 50 cents on [music] the dollar, depending on the type of gift card. >> Yeah. >> And so, they're losing some money to convert it, but it's you can't track it, right? >> You told us yesterday you sent about $1,400, but there's like cash advances that we saw. I think it's closer [music] to $10,000 or more. >> I don't think so. >> There was like a cash advance for $8,000. >> That was a
situation [music] where Elon had her log on to her bank account and we had a a u a joint Visa. He did a [music] cash advance Of 8,000 from our Visa card to her account. >> So that's not the first time this person's done this. So, you had sent money to a Connie. Do you remember that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I want to show you something that I found. [music] You had met Elon on threads, >> right? >> Fake Elon Musk says, "Send me a private message via WhatsApp for your package." And then has
a number. Guess who responds to this profile? >> Connie. >> Connie. >> Yeah. >> Very similar to your bank account and how they were trying to move funds and deposit money. They're doing the same thing. So, we reached out to Connie. We know that Philip, her husband, had actually signed for the package. >> David is the one that looked up the the Tracking information, and the label that you sent to me, it stated it was being directed to Connie. But when David pulled up the tracking information, it looked like there was a P that signed
for it. So, then David did some digging and then that's when he found out that Conniey's husband is Phillip. So, Philip is the one that signed for the package. Connie does not work for Elon Musk. We were able to easily verify that. >> At this point, it felt like we were Finally breaking through to Betsy. >> I own a business and my time's worth a certain amount of money. Brienne's time's worth a certain amount of money. And so, there's just certain things that are just not worth our We're like losing money if we spend time
worrying about those problems. $1,400 for Elon Musk, even $10,000 for Elon Musk, is not worth his time whatsoever. the guy's flying in private jets that are probably costing $70,000 to go take a flight. Yet, you Know, like you're trying to scramble together $1,400 to send a package in the mail. >> Well, the whole um being prepared to to leave at any given second, you know, having everything boxed up. >> Yeah. and packing everything after 43 years of marriage. I mean, everything we own is like that's that's hers is like it's everywhere. So, I mean, that
alone is like, how's that going to happen? How's he going to pick you up and all your stuff? He's not going to come in in a moving van, you know? It's it's just >> just the >> the vision of that happening and and and never having a date is is is just uh maddening for at least me. >> John is so calm. >> Yeah, >> he is so calm. >> He's holding it. >> Oh, no. I'm fine. I mean, I You weren't before I got here. >> Well, what happened before we got here? He was
pretty upset with me. >> I'd be upset with you. Like, I'm just telling you the reality of it. Wouldn't you be upset with you if you were in John's situation? >> Probably. >> Yeah. >> If John believed he was talking to the real Pamela Anderson and he started packing up his stuff and >> I laugh at him. I didn't use communal money. >> It was my own money. So, I didn't feel bad. >> Only hit was that joint visa. >> Yeah. You guys are still married and there's a reason why you decided to talk to
Elon in the first place while you're married. >> Fell out of love. >> Yeah. She fall back. >> She didn't want >> to see me grow old and die. She didn't want to be there for that. >> There's seven years difference between us. I'm 71. She's 63 or four. >> Three. Oh, >> 63. So, um, just made it ripe for being open to something. >> But the other thing which pushed it over The edge was him sitting over here every night like this with his phone >> and you never said anything. >> I would tell
you get off it. >> So, I picked up my phone. So there's there's never been uh since we're introverts, we just haven't had that moment when we said, "Hey, there's something wrong here. We're not communicating. We're not We need to work on our marriage. Do Something." >> I mean, all those things that might have, >> but yet I constantly told you to put your phone down. >> So now you're here every night talking with him right in front of me. Like >> you're over here. >> You're cheating. You're cheating with him. >> Mhm. [clears throat]
>> Right in front of me. >> Yep. >> So, >> and here we are. >> Yeah. But I think the whole idea of getting divorced was really came from this like >> there was there was a plan >> like get divorce she has money now. >> He gave me a he had access to it. He would have access to it because they Were >> married. They did something online that said they were married. Mhm. >> I mean, seems like you have a lot of animosity you toward your husband. Like I mean, you know, like I'm
just going to call it out. Like you look at him and like you're laughing in his face a little bit or you're like, "Yep, that's exactly what I was doing. I was cheating right in front of your face." And like to me It's like a little disrespectful like you know like look if the marriage didn't work out like it didn't work out. But how long have you guys been together for? >> 43 years. >> Yeah. Like 40. You like throw 43 years away in somebody's face? See, I don't know what to believe. I don't think
that's real. >> You don't. >> But I think you have your answer, right? I mean, >> she was willing to like walk out the door as of last night. >> Oh, I know. It's She flips on a on a dime. Whatever her situation is. >> I mean, Betsy, like I mean, the reality is now like I mean, you don't have Elon. I mean, if you want a Nigerian guy, you have that, but you don't have Elon, you know, for sure. You don't have a house waiting for you in California. >> We'll figure it out. >>
She asked. That was what I was upset about when before you guys got here is she said, "Okay, if it doesn't turn out to be him, are you going to step up to the plate and be be the husband I want you to be?" >> Wait, what? >> You told him that? >> We've talked about it before. Yes. I think it's the ultimate form of disrespect. I mean, I'll just kind of call you out. Like, I think it's so Disrespectful. If I were John to tell you to pound sand and go find a 25year-old or
not 25, to maybe a 52-y old, >> 25 sounds better. >> Um, >> there were other issues too that don't need to go on camera. So >> well there's always sexual performance of a 70 year old isn't you know >> I mean whatever your future is it's not really our business right I hope we are Able to give some closure on this side and then whatever happens after this is >> is really up to both y'all >> to say I can now expect all this to go away and we're back to the way we way
we were maybe it >> well You're a single man right now. >> Yeah. >> You know, like legally you're a single man. You can go out tonight. >> He's not going anywhere. >> He can't. He can do whatever he wants. >> He doesn't want. >> Okay. Well, the what I said whatever he wants, he can do. Well, that's >> the couch is here waiting for you. >> You know, it's just it's just um thoughts or opportunities or situations that never came to my mind. >> Yeah. Uh, since we're married for so long, I wasn't thinking
that I wish I wasn't married kind of thing. If I only if I wasn't married, I'd go After so and so or whatever. No, it's not. You don't think that way. >> At least I don't. Um, >> so I mean Betsy, you have your phone. You're looking at the last message. >> He's on right now. >> He's read it. >> Oh, it's funny that he's on because guess what? We're watching live Elon right this moment. This is happening right this moment. >> So, uh, so uh, >> that's him. >> That's him live. >> Eliminating poverty,
giving everyone amazing medical care. Well, there's actually only one way to do that, and that's with the Optimus robot. everyone who supported the the shareholder of votes. Uh >> this person literally responded as the real Elon Musk is on stage right now. >> Um you know >> Yeah. >> So you know that that's not right, >> right? So there's a lot of stuff I would he would be on TV and stuff and then would I would respond something >> about it. >> He knows you're addicted. You have to block him. He's not ever going to
give you your money back. Also, John's right. There's no need for Zangy. Should just delete the app. >> That's what I'm trying to Yeah. >> Oh, delete the app. Yeah. Remove app. [clears throat] >> Yeah, >> he's gone. >> How are you fine? You I mean, this is somebody you spoke to for a long time that you were legitimately in love with. Like, I mean, there have to be emotions there. like last night. >> I was in love with that one. >> I know. But now that you you've lost something, right? Oh, she's going to
fall apart. >> Yeah, >> she's she will just not on camera. >> Well, my eyes are watering up. >> Well, you were crying yesterday. >> I didn't ask you what why cuz I figured it was what was coming. >> Do you feel like you're trying to fill a void? That's what it seems like to me. Like you're trying to just fill this void and you don't know how to do it properly in the right way. >> Yeah. >> I mean this guy, this person, whoever they are, they just gave you attention and spoke to you
every day and complimented you. >> Yeah. Told me how much they love me. Something that I just wasn't getting. >> Yep. >> Yeah. But there has to be some level accountability, you know, like there has to be accountability on your end. Like I see a lot of like fingerpointing on your End. And I'm not saying John's per I don't know anything about your relationship other than what we found out yesterday. But what I'm getting at is that like you have to have some level accountability for this. And so I see a lot of what you're
doing is like well John didn't do this and didn't do that and didn't do this and you have to have some level accountability because you are responsible for your happiness. John should want to make you happier as you Know when he was your husband. Now he doesn't owe you anything. Um, but like you have to be responsible for your happiness. And if you're not happy with yourself, >> that's the first thing you have to tackle. And now as a single woman, like you have a choice, you know, maybe, you know, getting some help, like going
to see a psychologist to figure out like why you need to continually fill this void with fake people because like There's no way you believe that this was real. You know, in the back of your mind, like >> every once in a while, I would feel it. They would boost you up and give you compliments, but then ask you for money. I mean, that's not that's not a real relationship. >> But even Yeah. Now you're like even after we revealed what we revealed, you're like, "Yeah, like you know, and this happened and he asked for
this and Said this and this didn't make sense." And so now you're putting it all together where you you knew maybe you didn't know 100% that it wasn't real, but you knew that something wasn't right. I know that you knew that something wasn't right or you wouldn't have sat down with us. If you were 100% certain that this was on the up and up, you would be like, there's no why would I sit down with these guys? I think the last question I have for you is like What does the future hold? I mean, you've,
you know, hurt this relationship with, you know, with John, you know, with your family. >> Yeah, >> I don't know yet. I really don't. >> Is there anything you want to tell John? Is there anything I haven't said? >> Told you I'm sorry. Well, it's just trust. I just don't have the trust in you. >> Yeah, I know. you know, just when we think we're back together, like we were I've had my ring back on, we were going to within a day it was back on with him with this person. So, >> I think there
was some misunderstandings involved in that. >> Well, we told our kids we were back together and everything. So, um, Maybe I'm a fool for believing it so easily. So, now that I know that's can go both ways, I'm going to be very cautious in how I'm going to respond. I mean, that's that's part of this whole deal is figuring out what you're going to do. >> And then can you mutually agree to to the outcome? >> Yeah. >> We got the other things involved. You Know, the house >> we co-own. >> We don't have to
sell it now. >> What do you want? I mean, what's now that you know? Well, that's what I'm saying. I can't I can't make that statement that I can't answer that right now because I've cared for this person through all her illnesses. Um, provided as much as I can, everything >> for her. And >> we've grown up together. >> Yeah. >> Like from the outside looking, it's really easy to to talk. But I'm just saying that like maybe Betsy needs to work on some things on her own first and figure out like if this is
what she wants too because it's not good for him. Like if you're bouncing back and forth when he's the next best option. >> Well, that's it. I'm plan B. And we've said we've talked about that. Let me >> get you a shirt. >> Yes, I'm plan B. I mean, it's it's just that feeling of >> Yeah. Really? >> Yeah. >> I missed it. What? >> It's just that feeling of, you know, no, you picked me 43 years ago and but now it's >> Look, we did our job. You have all the information you need to
make the best decision for you and your relationship. Um, all I'll say is like Betsy, I hope, you know, you get the help that you need, you know, and figure out yourself and like what you want. And John, same for you. And and if you guys can mend it and make things better, that's great. If you don't, you know, that's up to you. >> Appreciate your >> Yeah. >> persistence and honesty, >> cracking it open and looking at it for what it is. >> That's >> that's all I could hope for. in the in this
session and and for our future. You know what is the truth? >> Betsy, I think you have a good guy right here. >> I know >> she said that. >> You got to make him feel that way though. Like, you know, [music] like look, as a man, like I'll just tell you, you got to make him feel that way, you Know? And [music] and like I like >> I'm going to tie you up tonight. >> See, it's all that part. I'm sorry you don't like that part. >> That's a physical thing. It's not a mental
thing, >> but >> Okay. [snorts] >> All right. Well, we'll leave you with this. Um, we'll follow up with you Tomorrow just [music] to see how things are going. Um, the offer is there if you need any help. How do you feel? I mean, is there a shadow of a doubt that this person's the real Elon Musk or you No, he's gone. >> Yeah. >> Well, the fact that she deleted Yeah. >> No more Zangy, [music] no more WhatsApp. >> No more Elon profiles. >> No, >> you know, I've been in Texas a little Too
long. They say, "Giddy up." [music] So, giddy up. We got to get going to the airport. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. All right. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Well, it was [music] nice meeting you, John. Best of luck. Okay, Betsy. >> I'll take care. >> Mission accomplished. The team left feeling like they did everything [music] They could to help Betsy and John. Whether they reunite or not, that's completely up to them. Woo! That was a difficult case. >> My heart is broken for John. Broken. And I I don't even know. Betsy, she had
this She had this confessional upstairs telling me that she's going to break down whether it's good or bad and she's emotional and then we tell her the news and there's no emotion and you know Maybe time it maybe it'll take time to process but I don't know like she even said when we left like she was in love with that person. She keeps pointing at Elon. It's like okay but you're not talking to that person. She's like, "I'm in love with his mind." Like, but you don't know him. And and I think the part, okay,
it was disgusting >> for me. It was disgusting how as soon as she finds out that this is fake, >> like when she did this and put her arm in there, >> I did see that wanted to slap her hand. >> I did see. >> I was like, "What are you doing?" And then he's just like he's just there because like he's 71. He doesn't want to be on his own. And like dude, can you imagine dating a 71year-old? >> I mean, if I have to, I have to change it. [laughter] >> If it gets
to that, I mean, >> yeah. Like, but obviously, like, you don't want to do that. And >> it just it just >> it was just wrong. It felt wrong. >> It felt wrong. >> It felt so wrong. Like, she was so manipulative. >> Yeah. >> And it almost made me feel like we didn't help them out. Like, >> well, we we did. We He wanted us to reveal it to her. She needed to hear That she keeps getting scammed and she has a addiction to Elon profiles. I mean, we're not therapists. We're not here like
if you're thinking that we should have helped him beyond what we did, then there's nothing we could do. >> No, I agree with you. At the same time, like it didn't seem like we helped him out, you know? Like it it may have been better for him for us to be like, "Yeah, Elon's real. go move in with him. Like, dude, honestly, like I almost feel that Way. Like, for John specifically, it would have been better to tell her that he was real. It'll be interesting to see like if they can both jump on the
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