[Music] How would you define Scientology? A family destroying human trafficking cult. When you die, it's just your body that died.
You as a Theatan just jump into another body. So, I was born in Scientology from the very first breath that I took. I was in the billion-year contract.
Pledging themselves lifetime after lifetime for a billion years. Pat Harney, you got to relax. This is public, right?
You open it up. All are welcome. Private property.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait. Where is the private property line?
You need to leave right now. Private property. Don't touch me.
It's private property. You need to leave right now. How's this treating you?
We can help you get out if you want to. Yeah, you're out. Get out.
You're trespassing. Where's the line? Okay.
Where's the line? Now you get out or I'm going to use it. Before I begin exposing one of America's most notorious cults and reveal to you what they do behind closed doors, first let's get you up to speed on what this religion is.
Scientology is a religion that was started by Elron Hubard, a man who also happens to have the Guinness World Record for being one of the most published science fiction writers of all time. It's a bit of a complicated religion, so bear with me, folks. It's based on the premise that a galactic overlord named Zenu brought billions of beans to Earth millions of years ago, chucked them into volcanoes, exploded them with bombs, and created creatures called Thatans, which essentially is this invisible spirit that attaches itself to you and is responsible for all of the negative things in your life, ranging from anxiety, addiction, emotional pain, and more.
And the only way to remove these pesky Satans from your body is to follow Elron Hubard's foolproof process. His methods involve paying boatloads of money to the church for courses called auditing classes and even signing yourself up for a lucrative billion-year contract to the church. This cult has a shocking list of charges against it made by former members who alleged the following.
From the age of two on, you sometimes saw your parents only once a week. Yeah, we I remember we had one nanny. She was like 16 years old and she was like stuck with like infants.
like it was I really that that whole thought process pretty much just stopped at the point where I was like I don't know what to do about this. In order to investigate this religion for ourselves, we head to Scientology's two main hubs, Clearwater, Florida and Los Angeles, California. What we find is a world guarded by secrecy.
We have numerous clashes with church security. We hear heartbreaking stories from former members who were born into the religion. And we observe how Scientology has put a strangle hold on the city of Clear Water.
Folks, truth is the most powerful weapon we have against lies, manipulation, and corruption. This is what Scientology does not want you to see. Folks, before I stick my boot up Scientology's ass, I got an announcement for you.
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See you guys there. between Clearwater and Los Angeles. This is where Scientology is primarily located.
We're going undercover to start this operation and we'll be boots on the ground here in Clearwater, Florida. These guys get 50 bucks a week. Yeah.
They need a union scientology. Huh. It feels like we're in like a nuclear testing town almost.
But look like the Scientology people on the roof right there. Maybe trying to sign a billion dollar contract to Seorg for 50 bucks a week. [Music] I have been helping people who have been abused or defrauded by Scientology.
This is Mark Bunker, a journalist, activist, city councilman, and Clearwater resident who spent over two decades fighting against Scientology. While many others would fold under the harassment and intimidation campaign that the church used on him, he has refused to be silenced. We pick him up and drive around Clearwater and he helps us navigate Scientology's territory.
Is there a place where there a gathering place where they want to bring me in to tell me more about it? There's a welcome [Music] center. This is the Oianda Gardens and this is where the Seaorg members live.
Uh, they signed a billion-year contract to work for Scientology. The trees are going to cover up one area or level until boom, right here. Apparently, Miss Cavage lives behind those trees.
We would be kept up all night and sleep for a few hours under our desk. Basically, any little sense of joy that you had, there were people marching around trying to take it away. My name is Jenna Mscavage and I was born and raised in Scientology and I left when I was 22 years old.
This is Jenna Mscavage. She was born into Scientology and is the niece of David Mscavage, the man who seized power of the church in 1987 after Elron Hover died and has ruled the church with an iron fist allegedly ever since. This is kind of like if Kim Jong-un's niece fled North Korea, lived to tell the tale and we got to interview her.
In Scientology, her life was tightly controlled. She endured intense indoctrination, physical labor, and emotional manipulation. Here's what she had to say.
When I was 9 years old, I did what Scientology calls a purification rundown where I had to be in a sauna for 5 hours a day. Yeah. And I would get like bloody noses even.
But you have to keep going until you achieve whatever it is they want you to like. You have to voice something that's the result of that program or else you have to keep doing it basically. My name is Serge.
I grew up in Scientology. And after surviving a period of horrific neglect as a child, the church began to groom him to be a rising star of their auditing team. Auditing, by the way, is one of the main exercises of this religion.
It's the practice of someone getting relentlessly questioned until they are able to release painful or traumatic thoughts that they may be holding on to, believing that once they do that, they can free themselves of this negative baggage they are holding on to. This is his account of what he experienced. The kids go from the very bottom of the orboard, which is like the maids, the ones that are like 14year-olds doing the beds of the adults that are booking rooms at the hotels, right?
They recruit all the little young ones because they can have them do anything. As a 12-year-old, basically, they put me into full-time training. So, I was basically studying full-time.
In Scientology, they would just call it an auditor. And then at one point, that switched where I changed to be training to be the person who trains auditors. This is Aaron Smith Leven.
His mom got him into Scientology at an early age, and after being pushed to drop out of public school at only 12 years old, he spent most of his waking hours working for the church. Now all grown up and free from the cult, he is one of Scientology's most active critics. Known for his YouTube channel, Growing Up in Scientology.
I worked full-time for Scientology from the age of 12 to 26. I was taken out of school to work full-time for Scientology. I I never went to high school.
I don't have a diploma or anything like that. Aaron's brother and I become like these like child prodigies that David Mscavage and Shelley were very obsessed with because we completed the metering course and got a license. We were the first kids that were able to read the E-meter.
For reference, an E-meter is a sort of primitive lie detector that Scientology uses during auditing sessions to see if you are telling the truth. If an E-meter indicates to an auditor that you may be hiding something, even your darkest secret, you will be questioned again and again and again until you reveal that thought. perfectly on a video and get a pass by Shelley Mscavage, which was like the biggest deal in the world at the time.
You weren't just born into any family in Scientology, the Musgavage family. Of course, in attempting to get both sides of the story, we sent multiple interview requests to Scientology to speak to David Muscavage or a media representative. But due to the disastrous feedback they get when they do speak publicly, the church quite simply does not do interviews.
In fact, David Muscavage has only done one interview with a journalist with Ted Cppel back in 1992. You realize there's a little bit of a problem in getting people to talk critically about the Church of Scientology cuz quite frankly, they're scared. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
And since then, and for over 30 years, he has been radio silent except for totally scripted and bizarre Scientology made media that looks like this. Whatever you have heard, if you haven't heard it from us, I can assure you we are not what you expect. For a man that rules Scientology like a big tough guy, little David folds like a lawn chair when it comes to any sort of accountability or questions from the public.
But there may be a reason for that. Here are some of the allegations against David. You have written a whole book about your son and you've called the book ruthless.
Yeah. a very very aggressive style and a tendency to violent outbursts that are physical in nature. And to give you an idea of what type of guy he is, just look at what he did to his own parents that left Scientology.
He and the church published hit piece websites about his parents claiming his dad to be nothing more than a pots and pan salesman who punches his wife and also adding that he lied about his book saying that he was not imprisoned, he was not starved and he did not have to escape from the church. And then he made his stepmom out to be a lying gold digger who wants to exploit her stepson for fame. My guy Keegan did some digging and found out that after David's parents escaped the church, they eventually settled down in West Alice, which is only 10 minutes from us in Milwaukee.
He foyer requested West Alice police records and found that Scientology paid a private investigator 10 grand a week to tail his dad and give hourly reports on his activities and whereabouts. This private investigator was found with a gun, silencer, and over 2,000 rounds of ammunition in his trunk. Stalking people with private investigators is allegedly the favorite tactic of this lovely church and shows you just the tip of the iceberg of how much Scientology tries to ruin your life if you leave their religion or try and speak out against them.
I don't know how many people they they squeeze in one apartment. Uh 8 to 12, I believe. From the outside, it looks like a normal Florida apartment complex.
What they are is two and threebedroom units where you've got like four bunk beds in the living room, four more bunk beds in each bedroom. Like you could be fitting like 15 people, easily 15 people uh into a unit. Like it's illegal.
They'll charge you for the apartment, for the food, for this, that, and the other thing. So if if you leave, there are people who leave with $100,000 bill or more. So I was born in Scientology from the very first breath that I took.
I was in the billion-year contract wrapped up because my parents had been recruited to go to the FA. My parents are from North Mexico. I grew up in appalling conditions in Mexico.
The cadet was disgusting. It was like a hundred kids. We I remember we had one nanny.
She was like 16 years old and she was like stuck with like infants. Like my sister also grew up there and I remember still like her being in a crib, you know, like with full of urine, like no care for the babies at all. Folks, we got to emphasize what we just heard because it's so crazy.
Imagine this. Dozens of babies in a room, many of them crying, needing to be held, sitting in their own dirty diaper, and just one overwhelmed teenager caring for them. Allegedly, it's sickening.
And the reason allegedly this is done is because good old Elrron Hubard basically believes that babies should be treated like adults and they don't need any special sort of care or attention. H from the age of two on you sometimes saw your parents only once a week. Yes.
Can you talk about that? So my parents worked for Scientology's most dedicated group called the Seaorg the Sea organization. They signed a contract pledging themselves lifetime after lifetime for a billion years to servitude to Scientology.
It meant that they worked like 115 hour weeks. They got little to no time off. Kids that were born into the sea or were taken care of by nannies.
They didn't see their parents. They were lucky they saw them for an hour a week. What are the benefits of doing all this?
Why would someone devote their life to this? When you're doing it, you think that you're dedicating yourself to an amazing cause. You think that you're like saving mankind and it's sort of like the greatest purpose you could have.
And our parents were in this mission to save the world, right? It's like they're all like stuck in this like, you know, job that they were doing for Scientology that they were prioritizing over their newborns basically. Well, they really believe they're saving the planet.
This is a like a mind control factory. We wanted to get our feet wet with Scientology. So, we went to their welcome center where they were selling the diagnetic books.
And I happen to know after doing some research that a lady named Pat sat at the front desk and she was actually a media liaison. So, I thought she'd be a good person to talk to. Here's how this mission went.
Good morning. Good morning. Oh, I'm a travel vlogger.
No, no vlogging. Oh, I'm just a travel vlogger. In here, please.
Pat Harney, you got to relax. This is public, right? You open it up.
All are welcome. Elron Hubard. And who is Elron Hubard?
He is a science fiction western fantasy author born in 1911 in Tilden, Nebraska. He is a guy who lived an amazing life but was a pathological liar and a con man. He basically created Dionetics as sort of this like poor man's psychotherapy and then a few years later created Scientology.
Hey there. How you doing? This is a private property.
I'm just trying to buy a book, sir. And why is no one here? Answer questions.
Come over here. Can Can I buy a book first? Private property.
You can, but you can buy it out here. Are you like a leader here? Can you please come outside?
Are you a CEO or member? Can you please come outside? I will come outside if you can answer like three questions.
I would love to come outside. Come outside, please. This is private property.
Hey, Elron. [Music] All right, Pat, have a good day. I wish we could have talked more, honestly.
Hey guys, they're not really open to the public anymore. We have their Agent Smith coming up. Oh, no.
Agent Smith, what got you into Scientology? Oh, sorry. I'm just Hold on.
I'm standing still. He's taking a picture. I'm trying to pose.
I don't want it to be a blurry photo. The house in the gardens. What time do you think I should be by later?
Like, do you guys do cookouts or anything like that? Um, yeah, something like that. I bet you guys would actually enjoy our website, check out our our TV channel.
Okay, fantastic. All right. They answer no questions.
I wasn't allowed to buy the book, which I was genuinely I would have bought the book. I met Pat at the front. PR person.
Oh, she's the PR person. No one would answer even one question. Of course not.
Next, we went to the infamous flag building to see if we could infiltrate and see what was going on inside. Unfortunately, a call to the Clearwater Police Department had already been made and as soon as I touched the doors, I turned around and saw the police waiting for me. Looks like the police may have been called and are following us.
There was a call on a van suspicious vehicle. So, a suspicious vehicle. You guys can film all you want, but just don't antagonize them, I should say.
Otherwise, they're going to do a criminal trespass on you. So, that means if you step foot on any of their property, you go to jail. Silly.
But right now, I'm really just trying to talk to one Scientology member that'll answer. Good luck. Yeah.
[Applause] What is it like living in a city that's dominated by Scientology? It's horrible. When we see them, they're marching in line like zombies, you know, down the street.
What do you think about them owning $200 million worth of real estate? I mean, if that's what they want to do and they're not hurting anybody else, just as long as they're American citizens. Well, they bought that whole block, two blocks, I believe they cross the street, too.
They pay their taxes. They're tax exempt. No, no.
Well, I disagree with that. Elon Musk needs to get on that. It it needs to be looked at, investigated, and someone to make a a good decision on that, and that's going to be President Trump.
Nobody knows anything. Is the town trying to do something to The uh commissioners are, but what can you do? Scientology started secretly buying up all the property downtown here in [Music] 2017.
I was working in the hotels. I was doing demolition. I was doing construction.
I was doing HVAC. And I was there with several hundred kids from all over the world. I was working 7 days a week, 8:00 in the morning to 11:00 at night, 365 days a year for 4 years.
So, a lot of it was training, a lot of it was um cleaning and we did like laundry and clean the rooms of executives. So, they would like inspect with a white glove to make sure that we didn't miss anything. [Music] Tom Cruz gives all credit to Scientology for his success.
Tom Cruz is Tom Cruz because he's Tom Cruz, not because of Scientology. Every every single window is closed. Mhm.
Every single blinds that you could see into is closed at a certain level until it ends. They're very don't look in here type of a place. What was going through your head when your parents decided we're going back into it?
Since my whole entire family was connected to it, it never left us. So, we were still kind of like exposed. Relatives were my relatives, all my aunts, all my uncles, all my cous, everybody.
I signed a billion-year contract and now I'm there for the rest of my life and my pay was going to be 50 bucks a week. So, I was like, "Oh, damn. I'm 10k in debt.
[ __ ] 50 bucks a week. " I'm like, "Okay, I guess I just have to really make it here. " When I was 12 years old, I was moved across the country here to Clearwater and my parents were still in California.
Any part of you say something's not right here. Something's really wrong. I don't think that second part added into it.
Not like there's something really wrong. It was I really that that whole thought process pretty much just stopped at the point where I was like, I don't know what to do about this. Even the higherups like yes they had some things easier but that's really mostly at the top top.
I I feel like Scientology is like a game of power and everybody has to report on each other and that's how you get to the top is essentially by throwing other people under the bus. That's the only way you can feel important. The way to happiness this used to be the Lisa McFersonson Trust.
This is where we had our offices. Right next door to Scientologies, OSA uh Department of uh Office of Special Affairs uh was right there. The dirty tricks people right through there.
Um that was my office right behind these windows here. All all locked up. They don't want anyone to see what's going on in there.
Now, now that they know your cameras are here, this entire several blocks of of front groups are shut down. One thing that comes to my mind when I walk past all these empty buildings that look like they're fully functioning offices, but no one's here, right? Uh it's like North Korea.
It's like a very staged play that you're a part of. Yet, when you look just peek a little bit behind the surface, like there's no one. All the windows are shut.
There's no sunlight coming in. There's no one here. Look, they make it look like someone just had a meeting in here.
Let's see if there's a front desk right here. This This is a office that should be 1 2 3 4 5. I mean, this is an office that should have at least a front desk worker, if not an employee.
None of this has anyone in it. No city on Earth feels the negative effects of Scientology quite like Clearwater, Florida. Some fantastic reporting by the Tampa Bay Times reveals how the church has taken over the city.
In 1975, the church purchased the Fort Harrison Hotel and made this their headquarters. Over the decades, the church began acquiring real estate at a ferocious pace, scooping up property after property. Since then, they've poured hundreds of millions into more than 200 buildings, owning the majority of the Clearwater downtown.
Mind you, this is with tax-free money because somehow the IRS lost their balls when confronting the church, ruling in 1993 Scientology to be a taxexempt religion. The weird thing is, they've left most of the buildings vacant, turning Clear Water into a sort of North Korean ghost town. The question is why?
Insiders speculate it's because they want to show a dominant presence, but the truth is they simply do not have the numbers of people to occupy these buildings. And it's no surprise. Their peak membership numbers were before the internet.
But now that their practices are widely publicized, they are unable to recruit new members and are slowly going extinct. But even as a dying empire, they still have a great deal of power over Clearwater and they are crushing the businesses in the downtown. Just take it from Tony, a local entrepreneur who was facing dire financial circumstances because of the church.
So this is obviously our place. We start off with the Nash keys and be between like bureaucracy and stagnation. We had harassing phone calls about us not being part of the community to get out of the town.
Even death threats later, but it took us 3 years to get these places open. A year and a half of permitting, more walls than you can imagine were being put up for us, but we got open. When you say death threats, tell me more about that.
Death threats meaning like a poisoning, harassing to get the out of the town that uh someone tried poisoning you. No, they they they allude to that they're going to poison me. Describe what's happened to this block over time and how Scientology has impeded local business.
The way they actually affected is that the negative stigma that has on it, the overbearing control and presence that they portray. They like to portray like a sense of u of unity that is disheartening to most of the community. Is that their bus behind us?
Absolutely. They're more organized than our government and their bus windows are blacked out. Yes, they have very weird weird things that they do.
I've seen a bunch of strange things. This is it. It's a twostory build, twotory uh club.
It is nice. And um in the evening times, I've seen this place just booming. If you want to fight against the empire of Scientology, come to this local business, spend some money, get a cigar, get a drink, and meet this handsome fellow right here.
Let's take back Clear Water one dollar at a time. Like you just said, do you remember what feelings were going on in your head as a 5-year-old that led to the paint thinner? We had no one to go to.
Like there was no adults around. Like all all the adults were compromised. Go.
And in 1986, Ellen Hubard ends up dead. And because they had seen that a lot of people had left the Scientology because they were treating them so horribly, they would always come back with this amnesty. We're going to forgive you for all the suppressive acts you can you committed.
If you come back, if you write them down, then we'll forgive you and then pretend they didn't happen. So that's when my parents got wrote back in. They said, "You're a suppressive because you blew cuz your child almost died.
Oh no, we're going to forgive you for having left without permission. " To really see what's going on in Hosi Gardens. got a drone operator that's show us what's happening and also show us their real estate holdings.
Nice to meet you. Hey, nice to meet you. Big fan.
This is crazy. Oh, if you could go over to where the pool is, then that will help orient me a little better. It's like if you Yeah.
Yeah. Straight up there. Yeah.
And go to the end. That was where right here. That was the end one.
Yeah. And my mom. That was the penthouse suite there.
It was just um four condos and there would always be a security guard posted sitting across the way looking. It actually won't let me go lower. That's weird.
Do Do you think it's a blocker? That's the only thing I can think of cuz it'll let me go up but it won't let me go back down to where I was. Interesting.
It's really odd. And you lived in these apartments for how long? Um for about 4 years.
I lived here for a few years as well. Really? Yeah.
Do you remember which block you did? Multiple blocks, but one one of the last ones was this one right here. And you really can't get out unless they let you out.
Like we would have to come out and tell them what we were doing. Like if it was on one of the mornings or we would do cleaning and if we wanted to like go to the gas station or something like that, even going for a walk. That's the thing.
Like a normal apartment complex, you know, the magnetic doors, you know, like if you have gates and magnetic doors, usually you can get out. You might need a key to get in. You cannot get out of this apartment complex without a security guard letting you out and open the game.
Is that DB block? Why can't I read it? Yeah, that's DB block.
Okay. So, I lived here in DB block. Yeah.
So, interestingly, they actually turned the the camera away from us. Oh. Anyway, so I lived at the end of DB block in like the lower levels.
They actually had fixed these ones up to be a little bit nicer. Would you be surprised if they had vehicles patrolling? Uh, I'm sure they have vehicles patrolling.
Is it that Are they that paranoid? Yeah. Uh, I mean, David Msgavage takes his security as seriously as the a head of state.
The car's getting in. Let's get in. Hey, we got a meeting with David just now.
Go. Hey, go back. Hold on.
Hold on. Please, sir. I just want to ask questions of David.
Sir, please stop. Sir. Sir, please.
Oh, sir. Ow. Jeez.
There are one, two, three, four, maybe five cameras on us right now. How long were your parents out before they went back in? What was this like?
Maybe like 3 4 years. Then Elron Hover dies. They go back to Mexico.
They get recruited back in again. Was their life terrible outside of Scientology? My grandparents were chill.
My grandparents were normal people. So what would have possibly motivated after they escaped and had freedom for three or four years? Scientology caters to a narcissistic personality because the thing is it promises superiority.
It promises you're going to be better than everyone else. Do you ever get to confront your parents about that or ask them are they still in it? No.
My parents aren't in Scientology anymore and they they think Scientology is horrible and they've said that it's like the biggest regret of their life. How was it escaping Scientology? Well, I guess the thing is that in Scientology, you know, at certain levels of management, they actually won't let you leave.
Like they the area will be surrounded by gates and they won't let you out the door. If you manage to leave, they'll chase you because when you leave, people who are in Scientology are no longer able to speak to you. You can't get a job at a Scientology company.
You, like in my case, I didn't know how to drive. I didn't have a bank account. And so, your livelihood actually getting a job depends on you being connected to these people or you lose every family member.
And so, while you can just walk away, that's like totally deceiving. You risk losing everything that's important to you if you do. I got it in my head that we wanted to storm the Celebrity Center, which is the place that the highest ranking and most influential Scientologists go.
Actors like Tom Cruz and John Travolta and businessmen like Grant Cardone. So, I wanted to see for myself what was behind these walls. Here's how that went.
Private property. Wait, where is the private property line? Where is that line?
On the sidewalk. It's private property, guys. It's private property.
Is that on the sidewalk? He's on private Oh my god. He's on private propert.
No, but can I You're on private property. What makes it worth selling your your soul for a billion years? Just move to the sidewalk.
That's Does Tom Cruz know that you guys work for 50 bucks a week? All we're asking is just to move to the sidewalk. We need you to move out here.
Come this way. Are you need to move off private property? Why are you bumping and grinding on me?
This ain't a Nelly song. We need you to move off. You're on private property, sir.
How do we talk to someone from Scientology? You guys need to leave right now. Get off the property.
Get off the property. You're trespassing. You need to leave right now.
You need to leave right now. It's private property. Don't touch me.
It's private property. You need to leave right now. Leave right now.
It's private property. All right. We'll be back.
We'll be back. Sir, just need pushing me. Stop pushing me.
You push me. I see you're on private property. We just need to move off here.
I don't have anything against you guys. I'm just curious what I'm trying to help you escape. You can escape.
You still can leave. Like to think that you would work 80 hours a week. What What makes it worth it?
Are the security guys there? Are they Scientologists? Yes, they're actually some of the most important Scientologists.
Have you ever heard of the term OSA? That's the Office of Special Affairs. Sort of like Scientology's FBI, CIA, Secret Service, all in one.
So, they do all the dirty work. They're very high ranking. Dude, what would happen if we would have started?
We got a fist fight. That would have been good content. Good play.
This is William J. When I told Aaron Leven Smith I was headed to LA to further investigate the church there. He said you got to meet up with William known for his work battling the church on his YouTube channel Scientology Audit LA streets.
William has spent months documenting and battling Scientology. Together we go on a mission to infiltrate the church's LA stronghold. So my name is William Good.
Um you know I'm an activist out here. Had a beef with Scientology a couple years ago and uh they said some really crude things to me. What did they say?
Uh, a security guard told me to suck his. So, I thought that was kind of crude. So, I said, I'm going to end your religion.
And so, here we are. So, they're working 110 hours a week for nothing. They're literally slaves.
They're slaves. And a lot of these people come from other countries, right? So, they bring them here on religious visas and then once we get here, they take their paperwork away.
So, now they're stuck. Should we visit one of their plantations? Sure.
Let's go for it. Let's go. All right.
[Music] So, let's just drive by there real quick so I can just go show you how how to go about doing it. Then park a few blocks away. And then are you going to if you walk in with your cameras?
Yeah. There's no chance. Cuz when I, you know, I come walking down the street, I have to hug the wall so they don't see me.
The minute she sees me, she goes, I mean, asking questions. Why you running? I have questions.
They will literally run in there and close the door. We got our guy. Chedda aka Texas Buzz back for another investigative piece.
You may have seen him in the Sex Money Murder Piece in Dallas where he infiltrated the prostitution ring. Now we're sending you into Scientology, man. Yeah.
How you feel? I don't know too much about this. So, you know, we're just going to go in there and be genuinely curious like what's going on.
I think that's the perfect approach. It's going to be similar to the Clear Water bookstore. So, we want to get a fresh perspective.
So, Chenna, good luck on your mission. And um no tortas on the way there. Just make it straight to the the wall.
Okay. Go get him, Jenna. Doors are closed.
Doors are locked. Doors are closed. Oh, they shut the doors.
Yeah. So, they realized that they're they're no joke with the things. What happened in there?
No, nothing. They just closed the door. Closer doors.
Did you see him close the doors? No. They already had them closed.
They already had them closed. This is Dr. He's one of the editors on my team and has been with us for a few months cranking out videos.
In making this piece, we found out that he actually had joined Scientology for about a week. Here's what we learned from him. I'm Dr and I almost joined Scientology.
It was back in 2020 that I took a trip out to LA. Being in the area, you always heard about Tom Cruz talking about Scientology. So, I it was one of those stops I wanted to do.
I was just on a regular touristy trip. I was looking at the the stars and then they got people in suits always just walking down and forth closer to the Scientology building. So, that's where they got me.
Initially, when you go into that building, they have their showroom. So that first half that I stepped into was the museum part and they have posters, TVs, small little like segments of like who they are. And then once you go into the back room, it looks more of an office but like higherend office.
They have their cubicles. They'll bring you into one of their cubicles and start talking to you. It felt like therapy the whole time.
They're very personable. So they're always looking at you. It feels like they actually want to get to know you.
We were in there for I want to say like four hours. They emphasized me coming back and they kept on saying like, "Oh, well, how long are you here till you know, could you come back tomorrow? We can like do more things.
" So they took me from the initial consultation I'm going call it and then they pitched me the well you know we think you'd benefit from this first seminar which is this book right here I got this book during that seminar so someone was leading the course they showed us videos we talked about it they made us like write so it was a fullblown you're interacting with the person teaching us and then the videos they're showing us. Was that the last time you went? Like, did you ever return to Scientology?
I never went back, but I know that I continuously get emails and I still get letters sent to me. Is that Jennifer? Jennifer Crossower.
She's like their main uh Do I just pull up to their work? That is Jennifer. That is Jennifer.
Should we talk to her? Try to. The lady William spotted is Jennifer Cross.
She is Scientology's chief legal officer. Even though it's unclear if she even has a license to practice law, she's the one in charge of things like getting restraining orders on protesters and personally signing all legal documents between the church and the city of Los Angeles. We jump out on foot to try and speak with them.
Jennifer, can we talk to you a little bit? How's the seor treating you? We can help you get out if you want to.
Jenny, stay off the property. You're trespassing. Where does it where does it start?
Where can you tell me where the line is? Private property. Let's go.
Let's go. Private property. Yeah.
You're [ __ ] out. Get out. You're trespassing.
Where's the line? Okay. Over there.
Where's the line? Pepper spray. Now you get out or I'm going to use it.
That seems like a crime. Yes. Go ahead.
Report it. That's a little [ __ ] move. See, that was easy.
A real man wouldn't need pepper spray. I would love to see the inside. Has any footage really been captured on the inside?
um through the windows, but every time we film through the windows, they try to prosecute. You notice something? No windows are open, right?
Shades are down everywhere. So, with the internet, it's almost impossible for them to to recruit. Before the internet, when information wasn't exposed, it was a cool hip Hollywood thing.
All the LA people were doing it. Monkey see, monkey do. But that's that ship is sail.
Yeah. The celebrity center. The reason they bought the celebrity center is that's that was going to be their main recruiting spot.
That's where all the stars are going to come hang out. And you know what? I want to be part of that.
That's cool. And they give acting classes there for free. Hell yeah, I want to go there.
Little do you know, it's not really an acting class. You're just being recruited in. But now, because of information, all the younger generation knows.
They're like, "Oh, no. That place is a cult. " What was the moment that drove you to the point where you said, "I got to get out of here.
" It's hard to just say one moment because so many things happened throughout my life. So many things that were horrible. so many things that should have been the moment, but it was after a period of time where I had been on a Scientology mission that was um in an area where it wasn't as so rigid as it as as the base that I had returned to after where they weren't letting people sleep.
They were like if you were to fall asleep during an hour in Hubard lectctor, they would make you like they would first embarrass you in front of everybody by screaming at you and then they would make you scrub the dumpster with a toothbrush and we weren't having any time out time off at all. So it was just getting more and more strict. What made your parents leave?
They were at the at Scientology's international management base and so they were witness to a lot of things that were going on there including my uncle David Msgavage who's the leader of Scientology like physically beating staff like punching. Yeah, like punching in the face and my parents themselves were separated from each other for many many years. This is a loaded question but do you feel robbed of your childhood?
Yeah, actually I do often feel that way. I mean, I don't like go around being angry at it all the time. There was a period when I first came out of Scientology when I was angry at certain things that happened, but honestly, once I became a mom, I actually started to get a little bit more angry about my childhood cuz I just didn't I didn't know.
What's your prediction about the future of Scientology? These stories of how Scientology treats children are going to come out more and more and people are going to be disgusted by them. So I feel like the more stories that come out into the public, the more whether it's a legal battle that takes them down or just like a public relations or both.
It's like nobody will join. They'll eventually be be bled dry and hopefully they have some legal battles that they lose as well and it all comes together. To show you how full of lies and manipulation this church is, just check out this 911 call they made on us.
4596 just left 136. We're on Hover Way Church of Scientology. CPR 10 direct to suspects 45 mil whites.
No further suspect vehicles. They claimed we burglized the church and fled the scene in our rental car. Here is us saying hello to the LAPD when they reported to the scene.
They're pointing at us. You want to pull up? Hey there.
The entire scene. So, apparently the LAPD showed up to the scene. Just park right here and just walk up.
Give my regards to Zenu. Okay. Thank you.
One thing to question is this. When there are repeated calls to a location like there is with Scientology, typically a city will label the property a nuisance property, which means the property in question must correct their issues or face legal action from the city. So why is it that Scientology can blatantly lie allegedly and disproportionately use city resources without repercussions?
And keep in mind, they are doing this as an entity that does not even pay taxes. All right, folks. That was a look into the world of Scientology.
If you'd like to see more of William stuff, his Instagram and YouTube is tagged in the description. Thank you guys for joining me on this journey. Don't join a call.
We'll see you next week. And my final thoughts as I send my regards to David Muscavage. Peace, folks.
After seeing all this, you might be wondering a few things. Like number one, why in the [ __ ] has the FBI not kicked down this place's door, raided them, and gotten everyone responsible for child neglect and the other insane behaviors allegedly arrested? The other thing that comes to mind is how in the god's green earth is this place tax exempt after amassing a multiund million real estate portfolio.
I guess I'm going to start my own religion so I can get rich too. Folks, I don't have all these answers, but what I do know is this. If you send me other leads to cults, churches, people that need investigating, I will go boots on the ground.
So send me leads to gmc123@gmail. com and I will report for duty. I love you guys.
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