uh Mr alzando you just said something interesting you said they don't seem to be hiding they don't seem to be hiding the UAP sightings are becoming increasingly um Brash if you will and you know we've been hearing about these for years but they've generally been isolated and not um as consistent and overcritical military installations um would you say that's fair is is this becoming increasingly uh of is it happening more and more great question sir um let me see I can answer this for you um certainly there seems to be some some indication that they're
being provocative meaning that they're in some cases literally splitting aircraft formations right down the middle um so that's an air safety issue the question is it is it is it the frequency increasing and the the really the response is it depends yes it's possible that there is an increase in frequency but it's also possible that there's heightened awareness now and there's also more pervasiveness of Technology out there that's collecting this information and that can record this information so we're not quite sure yet if it's actually an increase in in numbers of of these events or
is it that we have better equipment now that to record these things and we can we have a better ability if you will to to analyze these things and that's my next question do you it seems that a lot of these sightings occur near mil military installations do you think that these um uaps are intentionally targeting military installations or do you think that we have increased abilities to monitor surrounding the military inst ation sir maybe both um part of my concern is we have something in the Department of Defense and the intelligence Community called ipb
uh initial preparations of the battle space and we use equities like ISR intelligence surveillance reconnaissance and other type of equities and Technologies to prep the battle space um and certainly you know if I was wearing my National Security hat even if there was a 2% chance that there was some sort of of hostile intent here um that's 2% higher than we really can accept and so we must figure out there's a calculus capabilities versus intent in order to identify if something is a national security threat we've seen some of the capabilities yet we have no
idea in the intent and so this is why this discussion is is somewhat I think problematic from a governmental perspective because we have no idea sure thank you uh Mr shenberger you're particularly familiar with the Langley Air Force Space incident a year ago are you familiar just just from what I read in the just from what you've read yeah um the I would imagine a large percentage of the of the American population became aware of that with the Wall Street Journal article would you agree with that yes and um were you aware of that incident
prior to the Wall Street Journal article no um to the rest of the panel it was the Wall Street Journal article the first time that y'all were made aware of what was essentially an over two we um UAP fry over uh langle Air Force Base did were you all aware of this prior to the Wall Street Journal article any anybody show hands yes sir Dr G could you give me your H how did you become aware of it well a colleague of mine who I referenced previously Chris melon he wrote a extensive article about this
that there were other incursions of drones over langly before this as well as many many military installations over the last five decades and it's my understanding that there's been an ever increasing in number and um trying to think how to say this but cuz I wear two different hats I'm still in the Air Force um so I mean it seems that they're becoming increasingly Brash and the question that we really have to figure out is if is it China or is it non-human and I think that's the biggest question the American people want to know
if it's China it's scary because they have a lot of technology that we cannot explain and if it's non-human that's scary because we don't know the intent would you say that's fair uh yes Congressman in fact I really believe that we should use this hearing to as a catalyst to improve and bolster our uh air defense capabilities and and our Maritime a domain awareness capabilities because obviously there are holes in it whether it be UAP of non-hi direction or nhi direction or like you as you say Sir China or any other adversary subscribe to our
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