Speaker 1: Let's talk about the latest development in the ongoing soap opera, that is the post vice presidential life of former vice president Mike Pence. Let's remember that Mike Pence was Trump's number two for four years. And Mike Pence has done something absolutely fascinating.
And just as like a preface, I think Mike Pence is despicable. I'm not, this is not a story about praising Pence, it's a story about just reminding everybody how morally vapid this entire MAGA movement is. Mike Pence published a montage of Donald Trump attacking Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. in the past, criticizing, slamming R . F .
K. Jr. in the past.
And he published this on Twitter where he said, quote, President Trump was right the first time. Senators vote no on R . F .
K. Jr. So let's take a look at the video and R .
F . K. 's confirmation hearings are starting.
The timing of this is extraordinarily relevant. Take a look. Speaker 4: R .
F . K. Jr.
is a Democrat plant, a radical left liberal. A lot of people think that Jr. is a conservative, he's not.
He's more liberal than anybody running on the Democrat side. Jr. is totally anti -gun, an extreme environmentalist who makes the green news scammers look very conservative by comparison.
And he's anti -military and he's anti -vet. He's an extreme liberal. He's radical left.
And so don't think you're gonna vote for him and feel good. He's a radical left Democrat. I'd even take Biden over Jr.
because our country would last about a year or two longer than it would with Jr. It would collapse almost immediately. Speaker 1: So on the one hand, it's not difficult to see this as a predictable feature of the Trump brand.
Loyalty, that's the only currency. And I guess Trump coins. But primarily loyalty is the currency that matters to Trump.
You can spend it and you can re -spend it. And Trump can go from attacking you one day to hugging you the next day if you align with him, if you lay down like a doormat in front of him, if you flatter him. If you cross him and you're no longer useful, or you have a moment where you deviate from the worship loyalty.
Mike Pence did this when he said, I'm not gonna send it back to the states on January 6th, 2021 because there's really no such thing. Then you're out in the cold with Trump and it's over. Mike Pence was once Trump's devoted vice president and he is now persona non grata in Trump's orbit because that's what he did on January 6th.
He didn't do the one thing Trump demanded of him. He didn't have the courage to do it according to Trump, which was help Trump try to overturn the election results, an election that Donald Trump lost. And from Trump's perspective, when loyalty is your currency, Pence committed an unforgivable sin by showing just a teeny, Pence is despicable, but he showed like a tiny little shred of the ability to think and act independently.
Meanwhile, meanwhile, RFK Jr. had been on Trump's hit list in the past, called out for what he said, called out for his positions, but these days it's the opposite with RFK Jr. Pence fell out of favor, even though Pence didn't really change who he is and RFK Jr.
fell into favor. Did RFK Jr. change?
I don't know. I mean, he certainly seems to have changed his political views over the last few years, but the point is what really changed is that RFK became useful to Trump by being willing to push narratives that resonated with the kind of anti -establishment, conspiracy -minded corners of MAGA. And when you consider that Trump himself will often downplay or outright ignore established science, it's kind of a match made in heaven with RFK.
So we've seen this pattern over and over. Trump shifts from praising to scorning, from endorsing to blaming, Jeff Sessions, John Bolton. I mean, the list is so long.
I could just spend an hour doing the list. The first principle is do you or do you not serve Trump? Will you defend and bolster Trump's ego?
Do you show personal fealty to Trump? If you do, you get to stick around. If you don't, then you don't.
It underscores that the primary value, we talked yesterday about the broken political system, the broken political spectrum rather. Some of the stuff Trump says sounds like what we think about as left -wing. Some of it sounds right -wing.
We need a different system. And we need a system that really looks at values. And Trump's values are greed, corruption, and egocentrism.
Those are not values I find interesting or appealing or useful for leaders of the United States. And it's all transactional with Trump. If you're no longer useful to the narrative, you're thrown out kind of like trash.
And then if you can be useful in a new role, no matter how bizarre that role might be, he's going to call you. And right now it's RFK Jr. useful to Trump as Secretary of Health and Human Services pushing the same conspiracy -laden anti -establishment nonsense that a lot of Trump's followers love.
Will he get confirmed? Yeah, I mean, it seems like probably he will. But Mike Pence, I guess he's decided this is the hill he wants to die on.
He doesn't like it and he's saying so.
