Joe Rogan Experience #529 - Abby Martin

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check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day so Mrs Rogan sends me this video she goes uh have you seen this like what do you think about Gaza what's going on with Gaza what what what is your take on this and she sends me a video of you and I said that's my friend Abby Martin who took this very controversial stance and um it's this is a tricky situation isn't it like gaza's first of all it's sad and depressing and disgusting but it's also very tricky because

there's all this this weird biases that that are going on left and right you know there's the United States has this weird bias where they're criticizing Israel and then Israel's like hey [ __ ] didn't you guys bomb the [ __ ] out of Iraq didn't You bomb the [ __ ] out of Afghanistan you guys are talking about innocent civilians being killed like what about you and then there's also people on the Palestinian side that think it's just [ __ ] horrendous what Israel's doing and then there's people on the Israeli side that think

Kamas just sign the peace treaty and stop training suicide bombers you know there's in my opinion when I look at it and I I'm obviously not qualified to be some sort of a Political analyst but when I look at it uh I try to look at it objectively the whole thing looks like just a disaster like a huge humanitarian disaster I think it's one of the largest humanitarian issues in the world today and I think that we're going to look back in 50 years and um really just criticize how abominable the entire situation is and

the fact that the world the world isn't turning a blind eye the US is turning a blind eye um you know You say that that I took a controversial position but really it isn't controversial in my mind because I'm looking at this oppressed population that's imprisoned MH when I grew up Joe I didn't even know first of all what Palestine was and then finally when I learned about the Israeli Palestinian conflict even though it's really onited um I started to learn about what Gaza actually is and I think a lot of people don't even understand

when they hear the Word Gaza what they're talking about it's really what we're talking about is an open air prison 45 M strip of land completely closed off Egypt's closed their borders cce's just [ __ ] sucking the dick of Netanyahu totally working together Netanyahu shut off um the IDF is closed off all the other borders it's totally Under Siege there's 1.8 million people living in that close quarters it's one of the most densely populated places on Earth so whenever you have This bombing campaign people are going to die in mass and when they say

that they're using human Shields that's complete [ __ ] [ __ ] I haven't seen one shred of evidence to prove that they're using human shields in fact if you look back at the last 60 years of US military conflicts they've used that term to demonize populations whenever they want to make it seem like this population doesn't value human life you're telling me Palestinians don't Value their child's life that they're going to throw their kids out and guard missiles all I've seen is cartoons from from Netanyahu these infographics that show people standing on a house

with missiles underneath total [ __ ] [ __ ] this place has been under siege for years yes they may have say that they pulled their troops out in 2007 it's under siege they the Israeli Health officials said that they're they try to put them on a diet so they only allow Basic Staples in they claim because they don't want the Palestinians to be making weapons pasta paper chocolate anesthetics wheelchairs this is the [ __ ] that people can't get inside Gaza they're keeping gluten-free it's been shown to reduce hostility um the there was a

documentary once on suicide bombings and uh they had this Palestinian school and they had this sign over the school that said today's children are tomorrow's Holy Martyrs and they had this child that was strapped up with uh C4 and they had this picture of this kid that had died in a suicide bombing and uh they were praising him like he was some sort of a you know a saint you know cuz he he died executing this uh we praise soldiers who go and drop white phosphorus from plane you know what's what's more manly like when

you're when you're driven to zero when you have nothing left that's when people blow themselves up it's not Because it's a culture of martyrdom it's because they have [ __ ] nothing and they don't have the industrial Warfare capabilities to drop depleted uranium right yeah I'm I'm certainly not taking aside but what I'm saying is that it's uh it's an incredibly complicated situation like uh I don't know what would Israel do to to like alleviate tensions at this point once like how many thousands of people have died so far in this over 1500 at this

point 1500 Jesus Christ 30% children yeah I've seen photos Anthony Bourdain tweeted some awful photo of these children on the beach that had been bombed and one kid was dead another kid was being carried away most likely dead it looked like by all the blood and everything it was just it's it's so depressing it's so awful and if you if you could objectively stop the whole scene and say or what is a way to fix this what is a way to uh alleviate this This horrible conflict what is it is there a way well I

think up until now people have been saying the two-state solution is a possibility you had the Palestinian Authority working with the Israeli government Hamas is negotiated before it's not that they're like ignoring Israel um and of course there's a lot of problems with Hamas and not going to sit here and apologize for them they're really I don't I don't agree with anything that they want to see Happen but I understand why Palestinians have um align themselves with this group because the Palestinian Authority failed so much and they capitulated so much to Israel so they basically

turned to the more militant faction of the leadership saying [ __ ] do something at least you guys are resisting because to them it's an occupation and under the UN Charter it's an occupation as well a lot of people say the one- state solution is the only possibility which is and the Partied State give Palestinians equal rights because right now there's different laws if you're Arab that's what Israel is it's a Jewish State and they've driven out people who are not Jewish and they're ethnically cleansing them it's a [ __ ] disaster man it's really

scary and I don't actually blame Israelis because you're growing up in Israel first of all they think that they're the chosen people because the Bible says so which is disturbing in Itself but second of all if you're growing up in Israel and you do hear the sirens all the time and you [ __ ] think you're being told that these people are terrorists and they want to kill you right um so I mean I don't blame it and and but but honestly Israel has much more fair media coverage they have heret they have 972 mag

here in America we're treated like [ __ ] children we aren't told the context of the situation whatsoever all we're told Is Hamas terrorists keep firing at Israel and Israel has the right to self-defense well in all fairness this is a topic that's really too complicated for the news in quotes you're not going to get in a fox seven minute sound bite in between commercials this is something that's incredibly complex and really should be like a 3 or 4our documentary just to scratch the surface and I don't know if I mean I I guess if

you call yourself the news there's a Responsibility at least an implied responsibility to educate when it comes to a situation like this but to try to cover it on Fox news or on CNN and to try to like give an understanding to the people viewing it seems almost impossible but they also so just only do pro-israel bias like that's why I did that video why doesn't the media care about dead Palestinians because up until there was like hundreds of Palestinians that had died already and the News was Still making it seem like like literally every

single headline was just like three Israeli soldiers died 400 others and you're like who are others Palestinians like human beings like who the [ __ ] are these people or it would just be like Israel's you know Hamas Rockets have Israel on edge it's like yeah they they might have Israel on edge but people are [ __ ] like dying and getting dismembered and getting blood blown up like from bombs and all this Ceasefire [ __ ] man look I you're invading a country they are invading Gaza Netanyahu has also said it doesn't matter ceasefire

or not they're going to go through the invasion and destroy the tunnels the tunnels are not just used to store Rockets the tunnels are used to smuggle food into Gaza the tunnels are used to smuggle people out to try to get them into Egypt because they're in wounded and injured on the news it is disgusting I've never seen anything so Disgusting in my life than the bias toward Israel on the media and I know I I'm called so many names because I'm pointing this out but to me it's very obvious my friend right here she's

from South Africa she [ __ ] you know she grew up in a culture of post-apartheid and we're living in this world where an apartheid state exists right now and because of this tight Allegiance with the US the US supplies over $3 billion a year in just Weaponry we're continuing To give more weapons to Israel unless the US says something nothing's going to change and because it's this Jewish state if you criticize it then you must hate Jewish people and that's the problem is this rhetoric and it's so hard to break through and to explain

to people look because I'm criticizing a government doesn't mean that I hate a population I love all human beings I just want them to have sovereignty Independence and Equal rights well there's also this undeniable problem with having an area like that and what the problem is is that there are going to be children that are born in that area that have have no history of conflict whatsoever and they're [ __ ] they're [ __ ] this is where they're they live now and they're treated as the enemy and they're born into that and there's no

chance to break that cycle in that sort of a scenario if you have a closed border you have a Closed in population and you have this demonized population there's no chance to break that struggle I mean if you're a child and you're born in Palestine what the [ __ ] are the options where are you going what's going on you're and what are the ideology that you're confronted with constantly left and right when you've got Hamas you've got all these Palestinian organizations that want to fight against Israel and and you know you're grown you're growing

up in This state of Perpetual conflict with it it doesn't seem like there's any resolution that's conceivable it's it's a terrible terrible tragedy as far as like the wasted human potential of the children that are born there the people that are forced to grow up in that environment as opposed to Israel where they could just [ __ ] fly out and leave and and live there and you know I mean I I'm not you know I'm 100% against War 100% um I don't think that war is The option here I don't think it's correct I

don't think I I never think it's correct the only time it's ever I think the only time the military should ever be used is when there's an obvious threat you got some Isis crazy [ __ ] or something that are invading in a country and having Mass ex executions like what we're we're dealing with right now in Iraq that to me is a way clearer example of something that probably needs some [ __ ] military attention than anything That they use to justify going to war with Iraq in the first place like what they've created

in this vacuum is way scary you're we're pulling out now well it's not our problem no that's a real problem this is a real problem what you [ __ ] did is you created a problem you created a power vacuum and now there's a real problem cuz now you've got militants who are so militant that regular Islam is not militant enough for them they're blowing up mosques these [ __ ] are blowing up like these from the Syrian rebels that we gave them so it's like we embolden the Syrian rebels that were aligned with this

really radical faction of Islam and then they join up with with Isis and now they're going back to [ __ ] Iraq and you're like what in the hell this is why we shouldn't get involved this is why we shouldn't go inject democracy in places that are completely on a different evolutionary path of you know culture Duncan and I had dinner last night after the show and we were talking about this we're both like shaking our head and one of the things we kept coming to is like whenever you have military action whenever you kill

a thousand people you don't just kill a thousand people you also make widows you make loved ones who hate who lost their friends and family and there's just this this culture of hate that just never goes away asence as long as those people are alive this Cycle is just ingrained in them on both sides on the Israeli side on the Palestinian side it's just horrific and it's almost like this this process that's impossible to completely stop like once the blood is shed like [ __ ] man it's like you know it just it creates this

unfixable problem I see it in in a okay so we created this Jewish State the US helped create this Jewish State Israel um then there was you know the antifas and then they had their Borders and basically what's happened is that Israel has continued to encroach and if you look at the map there's like this map this very famous picture of these four factions of how Israel has encroached more and more in Palestine and now it just closed off more and more gaza's just shrunk to about this big the West Bank is shrunk to about

this big and they continue to build settlements against international law they've violated all of these like International Treaties to continue doing this because more and more settlers are going over there and and making a home base demolishing homes left and right um so if you look at the conf it depends on when you want to start the clock you can start it with the kidnappings which Hamas actually didn't do and Israel had to admit to that or you can start with the two kids that were executed on camera by IDF soldiers weeks prior to that

or you could start With [ __ ] 50 years ago or you could start with [ __ ] 3,000 years ago I mean when when you want to start the conflict or the clock on the conflict and that really all depends on the context of the situation but when people say like well you're [ __ ] shooting rockets at us what do you think we're going to do the problem is you have to understand why they're shooting Rockets and no one wants to talk about that and no one wants to talk about how if you

Have a helpless population under section 51 under the UN Charter that if you're getting [ __ ] pedal with industrial Warfare and you don't have an army and you're a helpless population being occupied you do have the right to defend yourself that's the UN um I'm not I I abhor violence on either side and I completely condemn shooting Rockets into civilian populations into trying to kill people but I do understand the resistance movement I do understand People aligning with Hamas because look they're under [ __ ] Siege and if I didn't have basic amenities and

if I saw my home like my neighbor's homes getting demolished all my life and if I [ __ ] saw people getting shot and beat the [ __ ] out of all my Palestinian friends friends here who have left Palestine over the years their stories are just unbelievable one of them's brother was beaten to death by the IDF when he was 16 because he threw a stone the other One lost six family members and one bombing and I'm just like how the [ __ ] you guys go on and they're like just surviving is our

resistance just living is our resistance I mean I and everyone has a story like that and there's incredible biases um on the side of the pro-israel side like I've I've seen some videos that make you just go wa wait what the Dennis Prager one is the most egregious have you ever seen that no what is it we'll play it we'll play it Because it's quite fascinating um Dennis Prager on the Palestine um uh Israeli conflict it's like he he breaks it down in this way that like uh it's it's very it's a highly criticized video

um you want in a nutshell yes yeah let's play it let's do it because it's uh it's one of those ones where you're like okay come on man we I we'll play it here you got it cuz it's something that you can't really describe without actually saying Cuz Dennis Prager is this like serious conservative Jewish fellow right Prager University by the way you can't have Prager University you [ __ ] you know you're not a goddamn professor of a university that you make yourself you know the motto of Prager University is you give us five

minutes and we'll give you a semester well I took many semesters on the question of the Middle East conflict I was at the Middle East Institute in fact at Columbia University That's where I did my graduate work semester after semester discussing the Middle East conf as if it were the most complex conflict in the world when in fact it's probably the easiest conflict in the world to describe it may be the hardest to solve but it really is the easiest to describe kill all Muslims and really in a nutshell this is what it is Israel

would like to exist and recognizes the right of the Palestinians to have a state the Palestinians however And many other Muslims and Arabs do not recognize the right of a Jewish state of Israel to exist every poll among Palestinians shows that the majority of Palestinians want there to be no Jewish state of Israel doesn't believe that it should exist or had any basis for being and this has been true since 1948 when the British left and the UN established a division Palestine will be cut in half a Jewish half and an Arab half the Jews

accepted it the Arabs didn't accept it And what happened the moment it was announced Arab armies about seven Arab armies attacked the Jewish state in order to destroy it to everybody's surprise the little Jewish State survived and that was pretty much it and then it happened again in 1967 when the dictator of Egypt gal Abdul Nasser said we are now going to extinguish the Jewish state of Israel and Jordan joined him and Syria joined him but Israel attacked first and so Israel survived And that is how Israel and only that way came to occupy what

was called the Bank of Jordan where many Palestinians live because many Palestinians lived in that part of Jordan so the war was over in ' 67 and what did the Arabs do the Arab states all went to cartoon Sudan and announced no recognition no peace and no negotiations the three famous NOS what was Israel supposed to do then Israel made an agreement to give the entire Sinai Peninsula an area of land bigger Than Israel with oil back to Egypt because they said they would make peace with Israel Israel gives territory back for peace and it

will always do that but is there really a desire for peace on the part of Israel's enemies which broadcast after broadcast on TV and radio in the Palestinian areas is about how Jews should be killed and how Allah wants Jews to be killed that's the typical broadcast on Palestinian television oh so you show us it's not Hard to explain the Middle East dispute one side wants the other dead you know what the motto of Kamas is the motto of Hamas is we love death as much as the Jews love life now you tell me how

is Israel supposed to make peace when people believe what Hamas believes oh God where do I start now here is one of the most important things nobody talks about everybody talks about a Palestinian State why didn't anybody talk about a Palestinian State while the Palestinians lived under Jordanian rule because the truth is people started talking about a Palestinian State once the Palestinians were under Israeli rule because it was always a way to destroy the Jewish state of Israel and I say Jewish State because that's what it is there are many many Arab states but there

is only one Jewish state it is about the size of New Jersey in fact Israel is the size of El Salvador El Salvador and yet if a martian came to The Earth and they visited the United Nations or they read the world's newspapers or watched World television they would believe that the biggest problem on Earth is a state the size of New Jersey and El Salvador this state of Israel this preoccupation with a little Democratic Humane state is absolutely irrational and here's another question to be asked if Israel tomorrow put down its arms and said

we will fight no more what would happen if the Arab countries Around Israel said we will fight no more we put down our arms what would happen in the first case there would be an immediate destruction of the state of Israel with mass murder of the Jews of Israel in the second scenario I presented where the Arabs put down their arms and said we just want peace there would be peace the next Wednesday the fact is as I said at the outset it is a very simple problem to describe one side wants the other dead

and if they didn't There would be peace and yet please remember this there has never been never in the history of the world a state in that area in what is called geographically Palestine that was not Jewish Israel is the third autonomous Jewish state to exist in that area there was never an autonomous Arab State there was never an autonomous Muslim State there was never an autonomous any other state that that's the issue why can't a little State the size of El Salvador That calls itself Israel be allowed to exist that in a nutshell is

the Middle East problem I'm Dennis Prager Dennis prager's a douchebag I I love how he's like um okay so you have all these Arab states and this is the only Jewish State Arab isn't a [ __ ] religion idiot Jewish State yeah you have an Islamic State Iran but are you going to really compare the [ __ ] two if you're claiming that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East are you really comparing yourself to Iran and all these other like I mean it's just amazing that he just said that that's insane also

sure there's absolutely people who hate Jewish people there's calls for genocide on that side but there's also calls for genocide in the Israeli cabinet as well some woman just said that all Palestinians should die Times of Israel just published a piece justifying genocide they actually said when justifi When genocide is permissible this was just published yesterday taken down um in a couple hours because of the backlash but you have this this rhetoric coming from both sides but I only see one side actually doing the genocide carrying out genocide um one side is doing the killing

the other side yes the Hamas Charter may say that Israel um should cease to exist I don't know if that's like a mistranslation in Arabic of just saying the state should Be dissolved but I know that they mistranslated edad saying wipe Israel off the map he never actually said that so what did he say um he just he said like the borders should like Israel as a state shouldn't be there as a Jewish State he didn't say [ __ ] wipe them off the map kill them all that was a mistranslation and of course you

just hear that repeated ad nauseum no matter what um one other thing that's just Really ridiculous is um this other Israeli cabinet official just said that Palestinians are committing self genocide that every time a Palestinian child dies it's because they're killing themselves I guess they must be rockets inside of these children because I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever all the homes that they're blowing up where these rocket command centers I just want to see [ __ ] evidence that's not a cartoon well prager's uh his point of View is very simplified very simplistic and biased

obviously you know his the the whole take like it's very simple right the Jewish State it's very simple it's not very simple it's not simple at all man and he didn't mention what you mentioned at all is that these people are kind of closed in there and there's no hope for them this idea that you know first of all the idea that a Jewish state has always who gives a [ __ ] it's religion's [ __ ] all right if you're An old man you think religion is a good idea good on you buddy keep

that rocking that [ __ ] until your [ __ ] body stops working but for us for the young folks that are out here that are sort of paying attention to the way things have run on this planet in this idiotic cyclical manner from the beginning of time from the beginning the first [ __ ] dude wrote [ __ ] down and decided to tell the other guys that God wrote it or God told them to write it or what I Mean that's this idea that it's a the religious State should be allowed to exist

the idea of a religious state is ridiculous they're ridiculous it's ridiculous whether it's a state of Scientology whether it's the Moonies have their own [ __ ] country like any country that is based on religion it's ridiculous it's ridiculous and I know we're supposed to have religious freedom and I I agree with that I agree that you should [ __ ] you Should be able to worship the spaghetti monster you should be able to do whatever you want but when you have an entire state that Bel believes it's the chosen people and they're connected to

this other state that they have sort of boxed into this 45 Mile Strip I mean objectively stand outside of the situation what are those poor people supposed to do right you know and look I'm I am not discounting this idea that Hamas is a terrorist organization cuz They obviously are but how how does a terrorist organization start out it's like one of the things that happened during September 11th that drove me [ __ ] bananas when George Bush was like they hate us for our freedom you know okay they hate us so much for our

freedom that they're willing to fly planes into buildings what did we do right what the [ __ ] are we doing that gets people angry nobody ever thinks About that all they ever think about is the action themselves not like what's causing this action what is it that's making people come from another planet and blow up buildings in New York City well I it's not New York City it's not those people it's not the people in those buildings [ __ ] not Freedom it's not Freedom it has nothing to do with it it's this discounting

of the chain of events that cause this cataclysmic disaster it's discounting the the the Pressures the the inequities the the all the the problems the inequality the the the the the despair of being born into that situation and this the idea that what the thing that drives me the most crazy about war is that people will agree that those people are the enemy people that they don't even know they're just people this this this concept of tribalism is so archaic and so [ __ ] stupid that it it drives me crazy that it still exists

that in this day and age People who have never met will see someone who's on the other side of the fence and say that is my enemy and I have to go kill them people who have never met they don't know each other at all and this idea that these people are Arab and these people are Jewish so they could never possibly get it wrong it's Preposterous it exists all throughout this country we people I mean yeah there's racism and there's there's biases against religions and religious Beliefs for sure but there's also there's always going

to be that there's bias against Republicans hate [ __ ] Democrats Democrats hate Republicans a lot of people hate Libertarians people love to hate people for regardless and when the media is amplifying that hate and telling you more reasons why you should hate um it's the same logic okay so Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of the Gaza Strip and the reason is because of what I said before Is that they're aligning more with this militant faction because they are trying to resist this occupation and ongoing Siege all right I disagree with hamas's all of

what they stand for but I understand the evolution of how this happened but it's the same logic as saying all Palestinians deserve to die because they elected Hamas they all must be terrorists they all must believe in this [ __ ] it's the same logic Bin Laden had that Americans deserve to die Because you know of what we did right because we elected these leaders who you could say are terrorists on just a larger scale what makes someone a terrorist killing a million Iraqis with all this [ __ ] high-grade Weaponry or blowing yourself up

on an airplane I mean it's comparable if you're looking at I I would say that the a million dad IR Rockies would say that Bush was a terrorist you know one man's ter is another man's Freedom Fighter yeah It's easy to point it's easy to decide that someone's a terrorist and that label terrorists is such a right it's so vague and you know it's so easy to move around you know you could you could apply it to either side but the dehumanization of populations my brother um Robbie Martin he's he he does journalism for mediar

roots.org which is my other citizen journalism website but we just published this article about the history of the term human shield and it Just it is really incredible because you look back at even World War II Japan the Viet Kong we all use this terminology and there's really little evidence to ever back it up and it always is when the establishment wants to paint a population as like having little value to human life even Bin Laden using his wives as human Shields when we raid the compound that turned out to be a lie um the

Taliban they said that they use people as human Shields Shooting from civilian areas all of this like never really has been proven but when you repeat it more and more and more and more people just say like oh well they're using their kids as human Shields what are we supposed to do when we go in there and bomb them like it's not our fault that the kids are dying here's an even [ __ ] crazier part I just remember this when we invaded Iraq Bush actually so the CIA has this giant document on human Shields

and saddam's Use of human Shields and Bush actually [ __ ] had the audacity to go out on TV and say just to warn you there's going to be Mass casualties when we invade Iraq and he was like but it's going to be because Iraqis are going to be used as human Shields he was like the people who die Saddam will be using them as human Shields like how the [ __ ] insane is that that you're preemptively justifying Slaughter by blaming the population that you're going to be Bombing sorry I just get really upset

well you should be you should be because these tactics are ridiculous you know and this these these tactics they're part of an ancient system this ancient system of justification of warfare and this ancient system it really you know for the longest time it was incredibly difficult to decipher incredibly difficult I mean go go back to the Roman days try to figure out who's right and who's wrong good luck what are you going To find the right animal skin to read you know where it has the [ __ ] truth written down on it no you

you couldn't possibly be there when the events transpired that caused the War itself You couldn't possibly be in the tent where the the the war Chiefs decided to [ __ ] you know make this is the attack we're going to do and this is the reason why we're going to do it no you you just were a part of the army or you were part of the civilian population that had to Endure whatever was going on you felt powerless you felt you had no information other than what was being spread through the state and you

were [ __ ] but now we live in this different time and in this different time you can watch a Dennis Prager video and go Dennis prager's a douchebag you can debate it you can you can look at the actual facts of the situation and people can be informed in a way that's really never been available before the the Vietnam War protests were largely based on they were largely based on educational institutions it was larly largely based out of universities where these liberal professors were trying to explain to people what the reality of the situation

was and then parents are like these [ __ ] Liberals are teaching my kids [ __ ] and then you had Kent State where the [ __ ] the military the National Guard came in and shot student protesters and scared the [ __ ] out of Everybody I mean there was so much chaos going on to try to suppress the spread of information to try to suppress dissent but today the the Well's broken I mean it's just there's no suppressing it anymore and we have these organizations that are scrambling to try to make sense of

it all that they're trying to justify their actions in in light of this overwhelming amount of information that didn't exist before exactly social media the when during Operation castled which was I think I want to say 2009 but that was the last really brutal Siege on Gaza and we didn't have social media like we did I mean they didn't have it back then like we do now so I think they were able to control the narrative a little bit more but now it's like the [ __ ] floodgates are open dude you can't deny seeing

children's brains being blown out I mean it's just there's so much death and destruction on social media that you're Just seeing the truth right in your [ __ ] face it doesn't matter how many cartoon infographics you make up on the IDF side and going back to propaganda I mean Israel is just working 247 to try to spin this thing um not only is our an abysmal failure and relaying what is actually happening but they actually have um you know first of all there's the birthright trip where actually I think like 2,000 soldiers right now

in the IDF are American because they go on These Birthright trips and then they're told at the end of the trip like come fight for us like you need this is like everyone wants to kill us still you know Jews need protection and come join the IDF and it's just bizarre I can't imagine another Army well actually I can and they were called terrorists when people wanted to join like the Iraqi resistance and the Syrian resistance we call them terrorists but if you're an American you go [ __ ] join the IDF Which is a

colonial army somehow you're a [ __ ] hero the propaganda Machines working 24/7 they offer grants scholarships for people who can do the most Pro Zionist editing on Wikipedia and edit the most Facebook posts and post the most Pro tweets pro- Israel tweets they offer free hot air balloon rides around Israel Tel Aviv if you post the most pro-israeli [ __ ] on like Facebook and Twitter dude it's pretty sweet though hot air Balloon who wouldn't want to do that right I'm thinking about I mean I doubt Hamas is offering like I Damas the capability

to offer that to to all the [ __ ] human shields in Gaza but they don't even have pasta or chocolate how are they going to have hot air balloons they can't even make terrorist paper airplanes because they don't have the point to paper uh but it just shows you how much is going into the spin machine on one side and I was invited on CNN Last night and I was like shocked I was like holy [ __ ] they're going to let me go on CNN and drop this truth on there and then they

canceled I think they got some pressure um because it was too good to be true yeah oh good googly mgly of course they did yeah someone was probably like who are you booking no no no no no what Jesus Christ if you watch her videos that [ __ ] is crazy she's got a nose ring yeah um it's this is a strange time when it comes to this uh These these sort of events because they don't play out the way the military leaders sort of expect them to play out in the media anymore because the

media that's online is as big if not bigger in total than the mainstream in quotes media there's no mainstream media anymore there's CNN there's Fox there's these traditional media Outlets which is the way to describe them traditional media it's almost like there their legacy it's like Legacy Media but then There's online media which if you total up the amount of blogs the amount of videos the amount of online websites that have streaming video and podcasts and the different forms of media that exist that cover these same issues it's overwhelmingly bigger overwhelmingly like the numbers are

much larger for the the cumulative total of websites that cover these stories it's it's much more people are downloading like clicking on those links reading those stories Watching those videos than you're getting ever on a CNN broadcast Absolut that's why I didn't even care when they canceled it I was like [ __ ] it I'm going on Joe Rogan show tomorrow and that has a million times more just like people who I would even want to be reaching out to like would I want to reach out to like old ladies in their home watching [

__ ] fox or do I want to reach out to people who actually you know have their eye on the ball or like invested in the Culture and what the [ __ ] happening in this country and that's your audience and it's just really cool I mean being at your show last night and seeing and seeing seen just like how many people give a [ __ ] and are paying attention to you and the podcast and [ __ ] CNN it we're driving them into irrelevancy man I mean your show and all the Social Media

stuff these people it's dinosaurs they're silent movies silent movie is what it is it's the the format is Archaic you know we'll be right back you know and like these [ __ ] things drive me crazy when they have a legitimate issue to debate and they have four squares like it's the [ __ ] Hollywood Squares and Rip Taylor up in the Cor he's like this is crazy she's nuts and then you know you have all these other people they're yelling over each other and like we'll be right back thank you for your time yeah

oh we have to cut to Justin Bieber he just got back in court I mean that's what they actually did they like cut from a congresswoman I think CNN or something was cutting he was talking to a congressman about the NSA and then they're like hold on breaking news Justin Bieber just like pled something I was like what yeah um yeah I mean if I could just say one thing so people don't call me a Nazi and [ __ ] is that I I love all people I think all human beings I just want to

see Humanity have equality and I just think That the Palestinians are being royally [ __ ] over and I'm just totally disgusted with the way that it's being portrayed and that they're being vilified and demonized with zero context and zero historical context of how this happened and that's why I'm just like trying to just say as much as I can even though I'm very biased and openly biased I'm an advocacy journalist and I just think that it it needs to be done because I see just a giant void void in The mainstream and I just

got to [ __ ] do it I mean I interviewed some woman in Gaza who she was just like I could be called a human shield because I'm refusing him to leave my house and she's like and the truth is there's nowhere for us to go we can't leave 45 miles and that many people stuffed in together it's the the options are incredibly limited and if you you really want to do if anybody in that area really wants to Have peace this idea that you contain these people is almost like ensuring yeah you're ensuring that

you're going to have some sort of conflict constant conflict I don't know what to do though but I mean what are you going to do you're going to let those people if you let those people out of Gaza okay like say if the the the the Jews and the Palestinians come to an agreement and then they open the borders and then the Palestinians come over to Israel and They seek revenge for their family members that have died and then they it all starts all over again I mean once thousands of people have been killed and

ENT in their eyes murdered you know you can say military action call you know use whatever noises with your face to describe a missile hitting a [ __ ] baby but it is what it is and if that's my baby I'm strapping some C4 to my chest and I'm going to find out who did it and I'm going to take out the whole Group I mean that's probably what they're thinking and there's going to be a lot of those people there's a lot of those people that are filled with Despair and what are their options

I don't know I don't know that's a very good point and I think that's the reason why these 120 people are still languishing innocent in gitmo because at this point they're like what the [ __ ] are we going to do release these people we just tortured them for 12 years well We tortured some folks we tortured some folks did you see that [ __ ] thing oh my God fol if you haven't seen it folks ladies and gentlemen there is a recent thing where Barack Obama is talking about people being tortured and he uses

the term well we we tortured some folks after the September 11 attacks we tortured some folks no you can't say that you can say we met some folks you know uh we went to uh we went to Atlanta we met some nice Folks you don't say we tortured some folks like what kind of [ __ ] weird euphemism speak is that we tortured some folks so that's become a hashtag on Twitter now uh hash we tortured some folks hashtag drone King yeah that is what's going on that I'm not kidding that is a that's trending

hasht we tortured some folks I'm not kidding and that's exactly yeah that's exactly what what's happening with the Drone Wars um the look The these [ __ ] Taliban Militants just took over this airport in Karachi killed a shitload of people and why because they said that a drone [ __ ] killed one of their leaders in [ __ ] the rural area of Pakistan because Obama launched a drone attack killed this guy it's like this is going to be going on forever when you kill people with drones when you [ __ ] imprison people

in a in a little area I mean it's just going to be a cycle of violence and revenge and hate um and That's why I just completely disagree with with you know of course the Drone War I disagree with all that [ __ ] man OB drones are spooky It's a Spooky idea that you're nowhere near there and you have a remote control and you press a button and missiles that are called Hellfire missiles come flying out of the sky and slaming the targets off in the wrong ones and if you look at the amount

of people that are innocent that have been killed by drones versus the amount Of actual terrorists that have been killed by drones what a [ __ ] mess that program and they also just call militants anyone who's just aged like literally military age so it could be 15 to [ __ ] 100 if you're a military age male you're considered a militant so who are I mean I don't know yeah I don't know who's even like I'm sure the majority of them are civilians if you if you have enough dirt on someone where you actually

they're worthy of being Executed put them on [ __ ] trial I'm sorry but I believe in the rule of law and Justice I don't believe in just assassinating [ __ ] across the globe with zero accountability zero context of who these people are and we know that they've executed [ __ ] like that 16-year-old boy the son of Anor Ali yeah 16-year-old kid blew him up in a drone him and his whole family just dead no accountability no rationale and you know they're just all terrorists I guess That's just makes us feel better I

guess to think that in Pakistan alone between 416 and 951 civilians including 168 to 200 children have been killed depending upon reports and you know who knows what the numbers the correct numbers are I mean first of all you got a real problem with incredibly poor people where you hit a [ __ ] house where they live in and there's no paperwork and they're blown To Smither like how many people are there you know you were going to have to find the family members you're going to report and tell you how many and it's you

know that's why you're getting these weird numbers but the bottom line is hundreds of people have been murdered that did nothing and also more disturbingly two disturbing things one of them The Intercept Rel which is Glen Greenwell's publication with the NSA leaks that they actually are killing People based on metadata so they track someone's metadata through their cell phone and then they track all these patterns so it's not even like real human beings within you know conducting Intelligence on the ground figuring out what people deserve to die or not it's actually [ __ ] tracking

metad dat on a [ __ ] like computer screen that is insane to me because what if you give your cell phone to your grandma and the cell phones in your grandma's house or a Church they're going to [ __ ] blow the [ __ ] out of that church exactly they're targeting wherever that phone is and you know if you really hated somebody you just leave your phone over their house hell fires are coming yeah it's not that specific and so the idea of the this is the word that gets thrown around a lot

surgical strikes I mean you want to talk about surgical Precision you don't usually talk about missiles that hit metadata that where a phone is And it's a hit in a [ __ ] apartment building you're just going to blow up whoever happens to randomly be near this phone collateral damage man and going back to what do we do I mean I think that we um we end the apartheid state we start giving Arabs equal rights but I think that the US cutting off funding militarily I think is the number one thing I mean for God's

sake there's been blatant war crimes that have happened hitting the UN Refugee School killing 17 Human beings that were trying to get Refuge during a humanitarian ceasefire they bombed a crowded Market killing another 17 they've killed like six journalists targeted all these media centers at and then there was the UN Security Council where every single country either abstained or voted to investigate war crimes in Gaza except the US except the US that's how blind that's how blind this Allegiance is and if we could just end this military Funding I think then Israel would be forced

to kind of analyze their their role and we can really talk seriously about Solutions here because it's not going to work yeah you're not anti-israel you're you're anti-war you know and I I have a lot of friends that are Jewish and you know and a lot of them have very strong opinions about this whole thing and you know I I see it from their point of view they grew up with this idea that the Palestinians are Terrorists and the Palestinians kidnap Jews and you remember the Olympic Games and all this craziness and you know I

I see their point of view but as an objective human Observer when you watch this you go there is got to be a way to break this cycle and the way is not missiles and it's not blowing up tunnels and it's not keeping these people on a strip of land I don't know what the way is you know that's the problem I'm talking a lot of [ __ ] here I don't have Any solutions but uh it's scary it's scary as [ __ ] and then you've got Russia that maybe invading Ukraine right now I

mean as we speak this weekend that might be going down you know there's a bunch of points all over the Earth where there's some scary [ __ ] that's happening you know it's this is a scary time it's a very scary time because human beings have so much more capacity for violence we we our ability when you have things like drones when you have things like Long range missiles and nuclear weapons and all these different things that just didn't exist 100 years ago but you still have the same mentality that existed 100 years ago that's

the real issue right I mean 100 years ago you know you had to [ __ ] get in a boat and you had to get over there in a plane with a propeller and it was it was hard to [ __ ] [ __ ] up now you can be in Nevada you know with a [ __ ] Xbox controller and you're launching missiles you know from the Other side of the world it gets real weird when it becomes easy to kill and when you're so delusional that you think that you are literally chosen by

God to live more than another human being and then you have these weapons at Your Arsenal that's what's scary to me that's goofy as [ __ ] that is unbelievably Goofy and that's the thing that you know when when you talk to Jewish people that's you know that's my faith and my undeniable Right to have this faith and that's my Dennis Prager voice my faith my undeniable right for a Jewish state look undeniably there's so much [ __ ] anti-Semitism online it's disgusting it's vile and there's obviously Jews have been persecuted horribly in the past

and um you know it's awful but it's not a reason or justification to do this to another population no you know no it's not and it's only going to make more Anti-Semitism so unfortunate attacking Palestinians and seeing and having the outside world look at this happen and you know and also look when Palestinian attack Israelis that [ __ ] ain't helping either man I but it it's it's a terribly imbalanced situation a terribly terribly imbalanced situation it's imbalanced that Israel feels like it's completely surrounded by these Arab states these Muslim states that hate it and

want it gone that's incredibly imbalanced as Well and that's also a religious issue it's like that they're just as goofy the whole I mean it's all goofy this idea that your ideology your religious ideology based on some ancient [ __ ] that nobody knows the real source of is more important or more valid than someone else's it's all [ __ ] Madness and look at us look at the Christian culture here the evangelicals dude I just saw I don't know if you've been watching John Oliver I really like his show but he had on This

stuff about the Uganda gay law and you're like oh wow that's so [ __ ] up Uganda has such horrible gay laws and then you realize that it's because of the evangelicals here in this country that they've basically been embolden because the political establishment for some reason takes them seriously enough to like let them and have such a say and it's driven all of our politics of the [ __ ] right so much and so then these evangelicals have so much money and Backing that they go across the world and start like making these laws

get pushed through to [ __ ] kill gay people and you're like what in the hell is going on it's this crazy [ __ ] like sure uganda's uh you know might be backwards in a lot of ways but without these American Christian evangelicals going over there and actually help get this done it wouldn't have happened and that's really scary because for some reason they're relevant here and I'm not Saying of course if you're Christian I'm not talking about that I'm talking about the very very very right-wing very like like very small minority that have

a extremely powerful political voice because they have so much money and it gets people like you know Mitt Romney and [ __ ] Rick Santorum yeah what goof I mean the fact that those people are even relevant the fact that we almost had that as our president like Look I think Obama's a war criminal But Mitt Romney's I mean damn I mean these people are just nuts Sarah Palin yeah these people should not be anywhere near politics they're [ __ ] crazy M Romney for folks who don't know is a part of one of the

most extreme Mormon sex ever they left the country to go to Mexico because they couldn't have a hundred wives here in America that's I mean that's literally why Mitt Romney's family couldn't like his dad couldn't be President cuz his dad was born in [ __ ] Mexico his family is from Mexico they have a giant compound in Mexico where they they are engaged in like these wars with the drug cartels they get kidnapped and [ __ ] Vice did this whole piece on it it's incredibly [ __ ] up and Mitt Romney is just they

just no one talked about it my Mormonism is off the table like you couldn't talk about what you're like actually that's pretty [ __ ] important no it's it's on the Table as [ __ ] dude you know you might keep it off the table and your goofy Legacy television shows and all these ridiculous things that you you you do these ridiculous debates where everything's controlled if I was ever in a debate with that guy the first thing I would say is you really believe Joseph Smith a 14-year-old boy found golden tablets that contain the

Lost work of Jesus but only he could read them because he had a magic had to bury him And then no one else can see him the [ __ ] out of here dude I would literally say get the [ __ ] out of here on TV you're in a cult right yeah Cults are big sometimes that's sometimes Cults only have 30 people and you live in the [ __ ] San Fernando Valley in a weird shelter and sometimes Cults have a billion people and you know you got a guy called the pope and he

sits on a [ __ ] Golden Throne guess what that guy's a [ __ ] cult leader right you Know maybe the new one's the best one ever cuz he's you know he's he's sweet and he's a man of the people and he's so proletariat look at him he's an awesome Pope he's he's a regular guy right no he's not he's a [ __ ] cult leader he's just a better cult leader than that creepy [ __ ] that came before him that sat on a a Golden Throne you know and had a a gay

bath house in the same property as exactly thank you for bringing that up well I I I know elron Hub's great-grandson he lives in Oakland and he was telling me that his it's very openly admitted and his great-grandfather wrote it in [ __ ] books and [ __ ] that he was in tax trouble and he needed to start a religion to like get out of this [ __ ] tax trouble he was going to go to jail he owed tons of money to the government and he even said like I'm going to start a

[ __ ] religion and get myself out of these like tax problems and wow here you Go yeah he did it and to to think that Scientology is any less valid than Mormon that Mormonism is valid Aion that is based on a jeie the the all of it silly man and it's not saying that there's no God it's not saying that spirituality doesn't have some sort of a benefit to our society and our culture and this idea of a greater thing other than people this greater power whatever it may be that Created the universe because

there is something that runs this world is something that runs this universe you want to give it scient ific terms you want to give it philosophical term whatever it is there's obviously a giant energy that has created this massive [ __ ] Universe whether it has a Consciousness or not is you could debate it all day long but I'm guessing that a dude didn't die and then 3 days later come out and push a rock aside and you Know come on it's the myths that hold Society together it's all these fables and myths that are

the glue and you're talking about how we haven't really changed we [ __ ] haven't dude I just just saw a poll that basically if a president was atheist that would be like the least favorable factor of like any candidate running for president as if they didn't believe in God that's how important religion still is to society and I think that even like it's like What we were saying last night at the comedy show you can show someone proof that Bigfoot that this video is [ __ ] fake and if and they still want to

believe it they believe it doesn't matter if you just say like look Jonah couldn't have survived inside of a whale for 3 days it's just not scientifically possible like well whales were different back then they had condos they had condos in the whales yeah people are people are weird man they're weird with Their beliefs and what's weird is as long as something's old will accept it right but if you tried to come out today with some Jewish zombie story people would be like what is this [ __ ] doing they' lock you up they put

you on pills they'd be like go down psychoactive medicine yeah if you were standing like in the middle of all the people in Occupy Wall Street and you you had a a chart and you were holding up this this chart this is how the earth was formed 6,000 years ago my religion in 6 days he created this he be like [ __ ] are you out of your [ __ ] mind if everybody just believed wholeheartedly in science if we had completely abandoned all religion and then you came along with aversion nobody would take it

you it has to be old it has to be old but when it's old we'll accept goofy [ __ ] goofy sh and even though so much [ __ ] [ __ ] has come out since then even though we have The internet we have the world's knowledge at our fingertips we still believe in these archaic philosophies that do not apply anymore dude did you hear about the Blackwater [ __ ] that came out how you know how you know Blackwater like the most criminal Mafia organization and somehow The Mercenaries yeah they're [ __ ]

mercenaries I had a friend work for him really mhm holy [ __ ] went over there and did a couple tours yeah he was a marine sniper and then Wanted to make some more money after the war got out yeah made a lot more money than he did for the Army did a couple tours open up an MMA gym with it that's cool man I mean over there and kill some people okay no that's not that's [ __ ] up I mean I'm just trying to be nice I think people I think anyone in glak

water is a criminal but but Eric Prince the guy who founded it actually did think that he was ordained by God to like [ __ ] like Kill Muslims like he thought that he was carrying out a holy war so what did we do we hired this company sent him over to [ __ ] Iraq they Massacre God knows how many people but that's not the crazy part the crazy part that just came Abby the crazy part that just came out is that basically we went over to investigate them and um the state department official

went over to Iraq right before the ner Square massacre which is when they just Went out with [ __ ] machine guns and just like slaughtered 17 like [ __ ] women and children on the street before that even happened a state department official went over to Iraq and they're like yo yo yo this company is like out of [ __ ] control you guys are just like like crashing into cars like running over people shooting [ __ ] birds in the sky and [ __ ] so they meet with the embassy and they're like

what like we need to you know this contractor That we hired is basically running our our operation what did they do the Blackwater guy there just said we're I'm going to [ __ ] kill you we're going to kill you if you do anything and he [ __ ] left terrified he told the embassy he was like they're threatening to kill me they're like get out they're like you're threatening our relationship now with Blackwater yeah and he [ __ ] came back to the US well what they're beyond the law that's what's really Crazy A

lot of the things that were done by Blackwater these war crimes they changed their name a couple times since then and now I believe they're owned by the United Arab Emirates I think they hired Prince to start another organization because they were worried about an Arab Spring event happening over there he's he's provided Safe Harbor in Abu Dhabi and they something like is Abu Dhabi yeah he's in Abu Dhabi and I he did start he Triple Canopy That's what they just merged with so before it was Blackwater then Academy and then Z right and and

then after the story came out all these other people came out anonymously inside Blackwater ex officials and they're like no we like Eric Prince has like killed people like Eric Prince has put out hits on [ __ ] like we know this for sure and we're [ __ ] terrified to come out and actually put our identities because we might die too like that's how insane This dude it and he's just living still making contracts with the government the CIA just gave Blackwater whatever the [ __ ] they're called now another contract earlier this year

well they're very effective very really good at their job I mean this day and age it's hard to get people to shut the [ __ ] up about things but boy those guys know how to shut people up yeah especially when unev you things that are completely outside of the jurisdiction of any laws ours theirs I mean that word contract is so cute cuz I always think of a plumber a guy who's going to [ __ ] fix your roof that's a contractor like how wait well the those contractors also have [ __ ] sniper

rifles like what that's a contractor oh okay like the you you know like when you heard that was one of the things that kept like um when that fuah thing happened and they hung those contractors the United States contractors like I was like why are they killing construction Workers like they're killing contractors and then you realize like oh no no they're killing mercenaries they're killing hired assassins oh that's different that's that's like Insurgent you know we killed some insurgents what is that oh people that are resisting that are in the they were born in this

place that we showed up with tanks and they're resisting so they're insurgents you know oh they're not just people that live there no now They're militants we we can you know throughout history people have had this incredible ability to dehumanize with with uh terms you know you can just call them something and then they become the enemy or categorize them you know what kingas Khan used to do like anybody who didn't live in a tent was was a [ __ ] you know these dummies that lived in these cities like they they just treated them

like cattle and that was why they were able to justify killing millions And millions of people and that's just one of the things that people have figured out a way to do US versus them we love it we love I [ __ ] hate Windows users you know I'm MAC till I die I mean it gets that dumb we we literally Ford versus Chevy I saw [ __ ] a Calvin and Hobs thing yeah pissing on a Chevy logo like he's standing on a Ford logo and he's pissing on a Chevy logo if I had

a [ __ ] drone with Hellfire missiles I might launch it At that [ __ ] guy I want to launch it at anyone who has the fake balls on their truck well those could just be misguided youth you know [ __ ] if you gave me some of those fake balls when I was 18 I might have put him on my car I was [ __ ] you know but Calvin and Hobs pissing on a Ford logo Jesus [ __ ] Christ but there's people that like this is Chevy country if you listen quiet

you can hear A Ford rust like this [ __ ] bumper stickers like that people love to be on goddamn teams unite blue where night red we're weird we're really weird like that well what better way to you know to control the population to have these like fake teams of political parties that essentially there's total uniformity when it comes to foreign policy and the you know the militarization of like this country and surveillance and all that [ __ ] but then You just have like these minute differences in terms of like immigration or this and

that not saying that they're like null and void obviously there's like things that are very good about the differences but on a big scale it's essentially you're driving the [ __ ] country to the ground yeah I think it's like what they're doing is taking advantage of these ingrain tribal sensibilities that have been with us since we were in these small groups of People that had worry about other small groups of people like we were just talking about this the other day that this is like one of the first times in human history where if

a boatload of people show up it's a good thing you know it used to be when a boat showed up you're [ __ ] men are going to get off that boat they haven't seen [ __ ] in 100 years they have guns they have no food they all have rickets they all scurvy and [ __ ] and they're just going to [ __ ] shoot arrows at everybody and rape everybody and take all your food and light everything on fire I mean that's what people did now they're tourists like it's a it's a very

weird time that we live in it's very unique in that sense like that that's never happened before so I think there's a slight erosion of this tribal attitude that you know people used to have and it's because of access because we can go to places that we couldn't go to before Much easier and it's also because of information information it's so it's when you have enough of these kind of conversations and there's enough articles that are written on the web there's enough conversations like real legitimate objective conversations between people that actually know what's going on

where they go over the the facts on both sides and try to come to some sort of a rational con unbiased conclusion it changes a culture mean Slowly but surely access changes the culture access to areas changes and access to information changes right we're a part of that it's all going on right now and that's why this younger generation these people that are growing up with no idea of life without the internet are they're we're completely repulsed by these things that are happening I think the people that if you pulled young people today in America

and Canada in places where there's no Conflict and they don't have this ingrained sensibility that's due to having family members being murdered you know in front of them and you ask them about nationalism I think their attitudes have been will be radically different than people that lived 100 years ago totally yeah I think it's the homogenization of culture and it's a lot of it's the internet I mean where else can you just see a guy getting raped by a horse and dying other than the Internet I mean 100 years ago we've never been able to

see that but I think it's true I think nationalism I think people are realizing how toxic it is MH um and the more that they travel and the more that they reach out online to people across the world and they see that we're all [ __ ] human we all bleed the same we all suffer loss the same way and there's only so much you can do to indoctrinate someone to think that someone else is a lesser human Being than you and I think that the more we learn about what's going on and the more

access we have um that's going to really really erode but [ __ ] I mean the old guard is holding on they're clinging on to that man they're trying they're Clinging On well ideology is the only thing that glues everything in place like when you have like Isis or you have like this Palestinian Israel conflict the the ideology of religion is one of the few things that unites people in This sort of very very Rock Solid position that just it's very hard to do with when you have a a an agnostic population it's very difficult

to get them to just accept that these people in Canada are douchebags and we need to go over there and [ __ ] take their pine trees it just doesn't make any sense you know people would be like what we're going to go to war with Canada right can you imagine if for some reason we found you know this supply of diamonds or Whatever the [ __ ] it is in Canada and all of a sudden you know we started talking about Canadian terrorism and like what like we're going to go over to Canada like

you know people be like get the [ __ ] out of here like but they look like us how could they be evil well this is the first time ever in my life I can recall um The public's opposition to military action stopping military like Syria right like when was the last time listen put your hand cup your hand to Your ear and listen in the news for anything about [ __ ] invading Syria it it doesn't exist anymore the the the the conflict the idea of the dialogue of of going over there military action

is gone it's gone because the overwhelming reaction to that goofy [ __ ] President Obama speech left and right people are like what you're going to put our children at risk you're going to send children over to [ __ ] in Syria for what for what's going on over there oh Someone used gas oh okay yeah why is that the red line what about the 150,000 people who died at the hands of Assad and all these Rebels and all this [ __ ] before that it's like why do we have these arbitrary quote red lines

where that's when we need to go and impose military action like what the [ __ ] is that about what I would love to have been in the room when they talked to Obama into making that speech right you're got to say that's when you know Like and and that's why I'm terrified of Hillary Clinton man because if you read um some articles about who's really like I mean I I think Obama once again he's a war compan he's a horrible president and um but Hillary's [ __ ] crazy dude she's like as crazy as

John McCain they were like pushing him to get into Syria so hard and Iran yeah Hillary was like almost one of the most militant military Hawks in his whole National Security team and man it's going to be bad news If she gets in I blame bill you [ __ ] her up made her angry she's probably a peace Nick when she was younger probably a goddamn hippie she looked like she was she got the big eyebrows [ __ ] all years dealing with Bill and it's [ __ ] rampant Flander she wants to blow [

__ ] up now just anger that's how you create terrorists well lucky she doesn't have a dick she had a dick Jesus Christ she'd already be President probably right but what do you think yeah I mean it is amazing and I think um I don't know what the [ __ ] think about this Ukraine [ __ ] man I I mean were you following all that crazy [ __ ] that happened with rt mhm well what happened they were trying to send you over there right dude what happened what does that cuz I I remember

reading that like oh [ __ ] they're trying to send Abby to Russia wait I need to go to go to the bathroom oh she's going to [ __ ] Formulate her thoughts you got to take some deep breath again plug there's Hillary Clinton oh my God look at that photo of Hillary Clinton first of all dude don't zoom in because if you do you miss the feet look at those goddamn Birkenstocks she might have had the original pair of Birkenstocks and these pants she's wearing these striped pants that look like a version of yoga

pants in some sort of away they're very tight who Knows what kind of material they're made out of but they're like multicolored striped and they're all it's all pointing you towards her crotch and some weird geometric pattern and she's got glasses on what happened to the glasses she still wear glasses kind of sometimes contacts yeah I don't know that's her that's her when she was young and Bill and look at they were hippie he had a like a hipster beard and and she looked like a hippie wow and they were Uh they were young students

trying to make their way in the world yeah non- inhaling non- inhaling yeah [ __ ] liar they weren't inhaling cuz they were putting it up their asses oh my God it's so crazy I heard they ate it that's what you heard I heard they ate brownies did you just make that up no I heard it someone said that he didn't inhale that's why I said he didn't inhale cuz he didn't please he inhal Haled ingested yeah everybody that smokes pot inhales Stop I I tried it once I didn't like it if you didn't like

it you're hanging around with the wrong people come on dude you tell me look at her and all those chicks that he hooked up with none of them smoked a joint before they [ __ ] get out of here look at her that's before she wanted to kill people if he's smart enough to be the goddamn governor of Arkansas he's smart enough to know that weed enhance his sex guy's a freak whipping his dick out all the Time of course he's high it's crazy can you believe that that you just like [ __ ] some

girl on the desk of the oal office with like a cigar and [ __ ] just like super got to do what you dude ballsy [ __ ] it's imagine the stress being the goddamn president yeah needs to blow off some steam somehow cut the guy a little slack hey that was the hey I I don't I don't give a [ __ ] about people's private lives they Could have a million Affairs I mean if you're a president that's the last thing that we should be worrying about yeah I mean if anything it shows it

shows your character and it also shows if you in a really high profile position of power it shows that you may be vulnerable to like impulsive behavior which is kind of tricky because it's like on one hand yeah I think that you know especially if you're not in the position to start wars and [ __ ] like you know I'm not worried About what someone does some the [ __ ] head of Nabisco likes to hire hookers like who's this [ __ ] I'm not going to stop buying crackers you know what I mean it

doesn't make any sense but when you're like in a political position when you're in a position of power that's the one time where I go maybe you should kind of look at their behavior because if they're doing like really blatantly ridiculous impulsive [ __ ] they might be like out control yeah they might be ass Sociopath but even more importantly they might be out of control cuz I I've known some people that were completely out of control like they're just so powerful they just think that they can [ __ ] do anything yeah yeah when

you know if you're the head of a company that's not really an issue unless there's some some sort of of black yeah it's a company that kills people that's that's an issue but you know if you're making tires or something it's probably not an issue but If you're the head of a country that has the largest army the world has ever known not by like a small margin but like [ __ ] Rome okay we've got military bases in a hundred countries 900 bases Jesus [ __ ] Christ like but Clinton Clinton is the way

I describe him is the last great American presidential dicks Slinger they don't exist anymore dick Slinger yes they don't exist anymore you can't do that anymore there will be no more every guy from now on that gets Into that role will be a Mitt Romney type they'll be super Bland like just without any Charisma whatsoever cuz guys with Charisma they get laid right you know like those JFK type guys who can Captivate a nation those guys are [ __ ] Chasers they can't you can't have a guy like that as a president anymore they don't

exist those charismatic leaders are like that Charisma that ability to do that is just too intoxicating to find that rare one that doesn't act on those Abilities just this is a different time we're going to have some weird ass [ __ ] pres I'm hoping that what it actually does is it eliminates the position because I think the position of President is the last great Alpha monkey position it's a Dopey idea this idea that one person as our figurehead is one person that gets to make the decisions and he can the president could veto it

what one guy for 300 the one guy for 300 million how's that [ __ ] real how is That still real right and then I love how people they blame him and then they also excuse everything on him they're like oh well he you know president can only do so much but then they're like but a president should be able to do this and that it's like way too much [ __ ] power and then also the Supreme Court I think really pisses me off though because we're talking about a court that we have nothing

to do with and they're like the end all be trators Of a lot of different [ __ ] and it's [ __ ] terrifying cuz they're just [ __ ] elected till death they're appointed they're basically like running this [ __ ] monarchy and it's it's crazy it's disgusting there's a couple [ __ ] fascists sitting on the Supreme Court and I don't want them to have the decisions Scalia is a sick [ __ ] he's crazy Alo and Scalia still wants sodomy to be illegal like that's how [ __ ] warped he is well

he's actually said if People choose to if men choose to marry men what's going to stop them from having sex with animals you're like I don't know where you're that's a sick [ __ ] trajectory dude what's going to stop them from marrying pigeons nothing you're like I'm sorry how are you Supreme Court jce it's unreal you can marry pigeons all you want I don't give a [ __ ] um I wanted to yeah so what were you thinking when all this [ __ ] RT [ __ ] happened I mean I Was worried about

you I was worried about you because you you were criticizing the the Putin regime and well here's a thing okay and I've had you know many people tweet at me oh she's a mouthpiece for [ __ ] right right and this they give you an incredible amount of editorial leeway it's very obvious if you watch the things and me as your friend and knowing you and having these long conversations with you And then seeing you talk on those that's [ __ ] Abby Martin period I don't know how much oversight they have over the things

that you say but when you're talking this is you know this is your opinions on these things and your opinions in in many situations were critical of Russia and critical of Putin and critical of this military regime and their actions and you know there was this backlash where they were saying they wanted to send you over where were They saying they were going to send you and what what area was this what was going on there so that was that was like Russia did this military incursion into Crimea right when all the Ukraine coup happened

and then all of a sudden the Russian military is like making all these Maneuvers on the border of Ukraine and Crimea was basically the first little territory right there it was [ __ ] crazy because I here and this is what's so hard is like working At RT the world hates Russia right now like the world [ __ ] hates Russ right now and we're being told on the media all day Putin's the you know the biggest villain in the world we should all [ __ ] hate Russia and then we're seeing like all this

[ __ ] about the gay law and [ __ ] Riot and all this stuff so it's really tough already to just be working there you know already and it's even tougher to know what the [ __ ] the truth is when we already know how biased The mainstream media is especially the way that they're covering Israel Palestine so when they're all telling us one thing but then all I'm getting is actual like Russian sources I'm like I don't [ __ ] believe anything that I'm seen right so you are you getting like an agenda

that you're supposed to oh no I I have total editorial Freedom here's the thing RT Russia Today you know it in the name it's literally the name of what the bias is it was created to put the Russian perspective out in the world um of course it's going to be [ __ ] biased toward Russia how did you wind up working for Russia Today that's a very strange position for someone as opinionated as you it is I was actually covering occupy Oakland and RT was the only media organization like covering the protest movement and so

I kept seeing this weird like Russian Channel out there and I was like I don't know what the why the [ __ ] this Russian Station's covering occupy I was like but it's great and I'm so grateful to have this platform that they're at least covering what's going on and and I really think it's because of RT's coverage and they were nominated for an Emmy for it that it really like we were able to see all the videos go viral and I think it forced the mainstream media to at least pay a little bit of

attention to occupy but that's how I got involved I saw RT all over the place in Terms of occupy [ __ ] and um they wanted me to come and have a show I mean they they like their whole thing is they offer the perspectives That You Don't See so they can like have the Very extreme libertarian voice and then they have like the Socialist voice they have like the anarchist voice and it's just breaking through all the mainstream media [ __ ] but when you're looking at the bias of course they're gonna have a

[ __ ] pro-russian bias it's funded By the Russian government just like you have the alzer's Qatar the Amir of Qatar funds Al jazer just like BBC's run by the British [ __ ] Crown dude all that does that bother you working there um it bothers me when people tell me that I'm a [ __ ] propagandist and that I'm a mouthpiece for Putin because I've already displayed multiple times that I will risk my job to speak out against Putin if I feel like I want to and I have to and that's what what that

that I've done it twice already one time I saw all this military maneuvering in Crimea and I made a statement and of course the mainstream media picked it up touted me as this anti-russian hero just because they had no idea who I was they didn't know how [ __ ] controversial my show was and how I like criticize the US Empire all the time so they picked the statement up made me an overnight sensation and then they quickly realized like I was way too controversial to be Lotted so they ended up calling me like a

[ __ ] crazy conspiracy theorist you know lunatic but what was really crazy about that um and I want to talk about RT some more but what was so [ __ ] crazy is if anyone watched House of Cards that's exactly how this [ __ ] actually operates in DC like I made this statement and then this girl Liz wall which was my colleague and actually one of my best friends in DC saw all the attention that I was getting and she was Just like a newsreader very generic never heard her voice any opinions two

days after this happened I was getting all this International press and then so she resigns live on air and is like I can't work for Putin I'm a like this is a horrible Network and we're and you know I I'm for the truth and I'm like pro-american and all this [ __ ] and then she got picked up and and you know laed all this [ __ ] and then I found out that There was actually this Think Tank called the foreign policy initiative this is where it gets [ __ ] weird full of neoconservatives

it's the same people who started the Iraq War Bill Crystal you know all these [ __ ] who basically forc us into Iraq they're like the most militant neocon faction of the entire DC establishment they've resurrected into a new thing tank called the foreign policy initiative and I Found out that Liz was like essentially being used by these people these people probably reached out to her and they just said like look we're going to like help you get this media tour behind you because their whole platform if you look at their mission statement they want

a new cold war with Russia that's what the FBI is all about and then you saw Liz working with these dudes like she was just this [ __ ] idiot Pawn who was basically used by all these dudes in This neocon Think Tank to spread their agenda and and it it just it was so [ __ ] crazy and these people in this Think Tank are the ones that went out on the media and called me crazy they were like aby's a false flag Putin had Abby do this to make RT look like it's a

legitimate news station like they let journalists have editorial Freedom they're like Liz is the real hero because she quit and she like hates Russia and like we should all pay Attention to her and I was like this is [ __ ] crazy this is all like being manufactured and that's why I was like this is absolutely insane and I just saw this media machine spinning and I was like the I was like being victimized by the media machine that I critique every day that's fascinating unbelievable that's fascinating to watch propaganda disseminate isn't it yeah it's

fascinating watch when you're this seeds and water and grows and and then They they catch it and run with it it was unreal man um so you're a Putin mouthpiece that's what we've gotten out of this but it was hilarious because I woke up the next morning after making that statement and I woke up to a press release saying we don't you know we don't push our journalists into saying what they need to say and like you know but that's why we're shipping Abby to Crimea and I was like pardon me I'm not [ __

] going to crimey it's a [ __ ] War zone yeah what did they say to you what was the actual conversation with you cuz I remember they said someone had said we want to send her there so she can see it on the ground and see what the situation actually is what was their contention when they were saying that there was something wrong with your perception of it right so here's the the problem and I've learned a lot more about Crimea since I still stand by everything I said but Russians have a Very strong

Allegiance with Crimea because Ukraine Ukraine is like half Russian speakers Ukraine I know like a lot of ukrainians that I know are literally identifi with Russia like they speak Russian they don't speak Ukrainian and [ __ ] so Crimea to them was actually like they were scared and they did reach out and they wanted help not I'm I'm not justifying the military action whatsoever and I think it was really wrong to have these Maneuvers right on The heels of this what were they worried about with crimeia um they were worried about the new like interterm

government and how there's just like a lot of law law lawlessness there's like all this [ __ ] going down and I guess they reached out and wanted this referendum I don't know if it was a fair referendum I don't [ __ ] know I'm not over there but my boss and I think the boss of the whole RT operation really didn't understand what the [ __ ] I was doing they were like I don't [ __ ] get what you're talking about they're like we're Russian you don't know what the hell you're talking about

you need to go over there and check it out to me I felt like it was a very Russian frsh punitive like threat like oh we're going to ship you there you learn and I was like what in the holy hell like obviously I'm not going to go and I told him I said look I'll go if you give me like weeks that I can prepare for war Training and making my own contacts in Kiev and [ __ ] I was like I would definitely consider going but I'm not just going to go there tomorrow

like so what was the conversation they pull you into the office Abby want to talk to you about uh some of the [ __ ] you said on TV and uh we want to uh send you over to a war zone so I woke up and to this press release without even being asked so I go into work knowing and my boss calls me and he's like hey Abby we need to talk To you he's like I have like a he has a Russian accent yeah he's like he's like we want to he's like I

I have a really great offer for you I'm like oh you're going to send me to cria ship me there I was like is that the offer because I'm not going and I was like I woke up to already saying that I was so maybe you guys got to eat your [ __ ] together and like fix these narratives before you tell the world that I'm being shipped there so were you worried about being Fired were you ready to walk I was ready to walk at that point and I was just trying to see what

they were going to do but I think I went into my boss's office and I was like look this is actually the best thing that's ever happened RT I was like let me say what I want to say because people call this network a Putin mouthpiece and I was like and you know for good reason because it does parrot the Russian line I was like but if you let me go out there and [ __ ] Criticize Russia that's good right that's good and I was like even Fox News has diverse opinions on they had

Alam combes even though he was like a little [ __ ] you know what I mean but at least they had that space where they could be like we you know we have liberals on sometimes it's like you need that if you want be legitimate and so I was like [ __ ] run with it let me do my thing and at the end of the day I give them inordinate credit for [ __ ] letting me Stay and letting me be there and you know I don't know what's going to happen but you cannot

say the same for a lot of corporate media stations that fired people for criticizing War which is even scary to me because those aren't even funded by the US government yeah yeah but they're yeah they're all terrified of the Wrath of the US government the access to stories the access to interview interviews you know whenever you see Obama sit down with Bill O'Reilly cross-legged you know they're sitting there s like two gentlemen they're [ __ ] their feet dangling over their other knee it's like all casual drink each other off under the table [ __

] bizarre and strange that's really incestral it's weird because you know that there's certain things that they're not allowed to say questions they're not allowed to ask like you don't get that job unless it's you're safe as [ __ ] you're walking into a Nerfed room you know andly O'Reilly can pretend to play hard ball but it's GNA be about economics or Obamacare or something like real knew it was G be about Benghazi IRS and ObamaCare like he probably they probably already agreed to the terms it was all pre-taped all that [ __ ] well

we we tortured some folks [ __ ] torture but I went after this whole thing happened so I was like I went on Piers Morgan and Piers Morgan what a dick wad that guy is huh that was Hilarious because he had no idea like he he just thought that I'd go on there and just talk all the [ __ ] about like throw my network under the bus throw all work that I'd done there under the bus and just be like so you know you're working for this overt propaganda machine I was like no different

than you bro like no different than you I was like [ __ ] look at what you guys have been doing you guys have been warmongering us he's a fool it's unbelievable he's a Very strange fool because I find it incredibly odd that they gave that guy that job after his whole scandal with oh I know the phoneapp tapping victims phones and then did you ever see Chelsea Handler manhandle him him MH she Handler him that was really awkward she destroyed him it was hilarious oh it was she seemed so IR she's like I don't

even want to [ __ ] be here right now well she she's Rich As [ __ ] she doesn't give a [ __ ] she's a a comic and a drunk and And and has it all out on the table she gives zero [ __ ] you know so Pierce Morgan not paying attention to her and not even talking to her and in between takes and going over his notes and [ __ ] reading Twitter [ __ ] but I think self-censorship is probably the biggest issue that you see on media and this is the

point that I was trying to make is that I'm obviously like the only thing that I self-censor about is Russia because it's funded by [ __ ] Russia The money comes from everywhere even if you're looking at Pi midar there's a lot of [ __ ] dirty money that's going into that like a lot of neoliberal [ __ ] up policies that he's done it's like no matter what if you want the platform unless you're Joe Rogan and have The Joe Rogan Experience the money is coming from somewhere [ __ ] shady man do the

Abby Martin experience I think I might man I mean I think I might at some point but it's just like might to you know What I mean I mean if [ __ ] gets if [ __ ] keeps going spiraling out of control I don't know how much longer I can like be at an organization um with dirty money and still not you know not feel like a hypocrite and [ __ ] but it really does come from everywhere whether you're looking at MSNBC NBC CNN and I think that the biggest problem is that those

have dozens if not hundreds of um conflicts interest at least you know RT is Russia you're not going to get news About Russia from RT that's pretty obvious but if I'm watching MSNBC how many dozens of corporate advertisers am I not going to get the truth about right how much are they self-censoring about the us or about Israel you know what I mean and so that's where it gets really tricky because even though it's much more of a gray area and I'd rather know the bias and I'd rather know exactly who's funding the organization so

I can maneuver Around that and get the truth it's working for any company that gets their money from various sources whether it's the Russian government whether it's corporations that sponsor shows and want you to keep a non-confrontational noncontroversial stance on their Network because they have this agenda because they're trying to promote as many products as possible during their commercial breaks I me there's a whole bunch of reasons because They want to negotiate good guests they want to make high-profile political guests feel at home so they have to censor opinions access all about access baby yeah

you know what we were saying before about absolutism that's what that's why I work for RT because if I was an absolutist I'd be living in the [ __ ] jungle drinking rain water I have an iPhone yeah I criticize you know the NSA a lot but look at [ __ ] Facebook and apple They're all working with the NSA they're offering these back doors I use these tools because I care more about the truth and I'm giving up and I'm compromising my moral values a little bit because I'm not a [ __ ] absolutist

because I believe in the bigger picture that this is a platform that's going to get the truth out to as many people as possible that I'm using Facebook to spread the message about this and that and I I value that more than I do like Cutting off all social media because I believe in privacy to the absolute extreme so I guess there's a lot of compromis that you make living in the society that we live in and you know It's just tough uh you mentioned commercials dude pharmaceutical industry the US is only one of two

countries in the entire world that allows direct to Consumer advertising about pharmaceuticals and guess who's [ __ ] preventing weed legalization in the US Yeah partnership for a Drug Free America which is hilarious unbelievable they are funded by pharmaceutical companies drugs fund anti-drug commercials kid kid groups and [ __ ] like kids for a Drug Free America you're like you're pedaling but yet you're giving Aderall to two-year-olds well used to take money from alcohol companies they stopped now it's just Pharmaceuticals it's un [ __ ] real partnership for a drug-free America yeah I I had

a joke that it was Just like hookers doing commercials against strippers like that's that's partnership for a drug- free America having commercials against weed pharmaceutical drugs kill a lot of [ __ ] people weed kills zero like the idea behind it is so hilarious it's just gross it's gross and more transparent now than ever before and that's why you know you're not seeing that talking dog commercial anymore it's really hard to push those things just a few years ago You know Lindsay I wish you wouldn't smoke weed you're not the same when you smoke it

I wish you were on oxies so you just [ __ ] yeah snort some oxies instead take some [ __ ] take some Aderall get [ __ ] done become a part of the workforce Lindsay yeah become a more high functioning worker [ __ ] Aderall man that shit's everywhere I know so many people that are on that now it's really confusing it's like you become some hyper Vigilant Corporate entity some Mass producing consumer this this person that can work 16 hours a day hardcore and you're just taxing and redlining your system all day insane

yeah I know a dude's got a serious problem with it he can't get off it he [ __ ] loves it Yum Yum Yum Chom Chom Chom 10,000 kids right now think about how many [ __ ] kids 2 to 3 years old are on Aderall oh yeah [ __ ] toddlers what are you prescribing to [ __ ] babies babies being a baby I'm Tired of it can't deal with a doctor drugs well I had a nextdoor neighbor there's nothing wrong with their kid they got their kid on riddling or something one of those

things Prozac riddle and something some sort of a control the [ __ ] kid drug was really bizarre bizarre to see this little kid become like a zombie you know just like dead dead eyes insane wandering around I mean they these people were such shitty neighbors they had a dog that was just So wild they they had a weird fence like they kind of had a fence but any dog could go over the like they had a a fence that was connected to a hill so the dog could just go up the hill and over

the fence and I was like bro you got to put a real [ __ ] like their dog would growl at me and [ __ ] and I told him that his dog growled at me and he made up some crazy story about my dog getting out and like the dog tried to attack him he grabbed it by his neck he Was like this [ __ ] fat out of shape dumpy dude I'm like you grabbed that dog neck and kept that dog from my dog's a big dog like that dog didn't try to bite

plus my dog's not aggressive like you're an [ __ ] just making up some story because his dog is creepy his dog would like growl at people and [ __ ] so um it was the same guy that had this kid that was just a kid it was just a kid and they just didn't want to deal with it they didn't want to deal kids need a God They need attention the mom was whacked out of her mind on all sorts of [ __ ] pills and the father was just sort of absentee worked all

day 12 hours a day every day never home and then when he was home the kid was too much noise so put kid on pills get him on pills I was just you know that crazy show My Strange Addiction where people eat like [ __ ] Upholstery and [ __ ] they keep I was watching one where they're [ __ ] eating tape like Scotch tape do you Think third one do you think third the third world countes have that problem or is it just this vacuous like vapid like identity crisis of American just being

like what the [ __ ] is life all about I don't know I mean I'm generalizing American culture maybe way too much but I've always where that come from well people are [ __ ] soft you know it's this life is a little bit too easy it's a little too easy to go to the supermarket and get your food it's a Little too easy to drive in the Jack in the Box and get your food it's a little too easy to exist in this weird world that's completely and totally unnatural this cubicle world this world

of sitting at a desk all day it's just not natural and we're [ __ ] up we're we're we're all really screwed up because of that because of this unnatural existence that our bodies are not designed for our minds are not designed for so people get wacky they start eating tape they start Chewing on [ __ ] Upholstery and eating curtains and you know it's [ __ ] strange I mean if you look at like a perfect example is a it's all about access right because in Florida they have they it's better now but they

had a real issue for a long time before um before they put out that documentary The oxycotton Express that was crazy yeah where they those health centers or whatever that they just [ __ ] pain management centers what what's the Address of those yeah they're everywhere it's not an address it's just like close your eyes and throw a dart at the map of Florida and you'll [ __ ] hit one and they were One-Stop shops which is disturbing enough but what's more disturbing was that they didn't have a database so you could go to uh

Dr Jamie over here and get a prescription and then you know you you could go down the street and go to Dr Mike and get a prescription from him and then you can Go down the street further to Dr Michelle and get a prescription from her and there's no one to stop you there's there's no one to know what you've done there was nothing and so because of that there was this insane number of people that were on oxycotton like I'll I'll I'll pull up the data I'll pull up the actual but the number of

prescriptions of people um of prescriptions that people had oxycotton in Florida as opposed to the rest of the World and it's also where all the drug puddlers go to buy it and then they just go to their respective States and sell yeah it's [ __ ] nuts yeah it was it was real nuts it was something like 90% of no way yeah 90% of the um of all of the prescriptions in the country were in Florida holy [ __ ] well Americans have I mean we consume more opiates than any other country in the world

mhm um there's like some insane stat like 40% of Americans are on like at least I I Think it's honestly like five pills or more I mean I might be exaggerating but remember how last time Joe we were talking about the Opium in Afghanistan yes did you hear that we are the NSA is tapping every single phone call and storing it and recording it in Afghanistan that convinced to me that sealed the deal that we're like running drugs from there I was like so you're telling me that all every single audio phone call that's made

is being tapped And started by the NSA and we're still allowing 90% of the world's heroin from coming out of there that's even [ __ ] crazier well it is but see what people get confused about when it comes to this idea of tapping phones is that there's a person that's monitoring Abby Martin there's a person that's monitoring me there's a person that's got Amber Lion's number no it's all just being stored and if you get arrested then then they're going to go through your [ __ ] with a Fine com and they have all

this data but until you get arrested they're just you know it's just oh yeah yeah yeah totally it's the retroactive prosecution it's the ability to frame a case about you going back in your history and doing all the [ __ ] like you can pick said exactly implied blackmail is what it is it's like it it keeps you on the up and up it keeps you from challenging Authority because if you do they know a lot of [ __ ] about you Abby Martin I guess my Point is that if you if we wanted to

stop the opium trade it wouldn't be that hard yeah probably wouldn't be as hard yeah yeah um but yeah no dude when people know that they're being watched we were talking about you know the generation the internet generation the problem is that there's no semblance of privacy with the generation growing up next um that's all gone and people react differently they act differently when they know that there's a camera on them When they know that they're being recorded and what is that going to do for just independent thought and I just hope that we can

um I just I don't know what the [ __ ] going to happen man it's just it's getting really crazy um the surveillance state is just really really out of control well the only thing that's fascinating to me is that it's starting to eat itself yeah it's like it just came out recently that the NSA was they were Sur using surveillance on the Senate yeah so it's like it's like you're they're they're eating themselves like and then the FB I was being investigated they was investigating the CIA and that's how they found the head of

CIA was having an affair is because they were they were all investigating each other it's like they're eating themselves like they've they've gone to cannibalism that's one of the things that many people are not aware is that a lot of government agencies don't like The other government agencies right right right [ __ ] hilarious you [ __ ] are supposed to be on Team America and the [ __ ] FBI and the CIA have issu with each other they don't share information they go back and they have [ __ ] real problems you know I

I think that ultimately the the evil and the the the sort of creepy Behavior that's involved in the surveillence state will prove to be its own undoing because they're going to investigate Each other they're going to expose each other's issues they're going to you know they're they're attacking each other like they're this whole thing I mean the the [ __ ] [ __ ] head of the CIA the number one spook in the country gets investigated by the FBI and he loses his gig because it turns out that he's having an affair I mean if

that doesn't show you how crazy this is and that that guy betrayus who lost his gig was you know I mean you remember during the Iraq War he was like he was like Jesus of the battlefield he was like the guy that everybody went to he was is it funny that an affair can take you down not like War hilarious yeah with the CRA some crazy [ __ ] that was banging dudes a she was like into [ __ ] high level military guys you know they thing they were kind of like weird swingers when

it comes to you know hired Killers very strange just very strange did you hear about that other leak about gchq which Is like the NSA counterpart in Britain they actually it came out that they're manipulating polls and online traffic and essentially like you know the whole like whoever controls the past controls the present well these people [ __ ] are controlling the present and the future because if you're manipulating polls that right there can change the course of like the political evolution of a country if you're like oh well 90% of UK citizens agree with

this What are you going to like say no and it's like you're just [ __ ] making that [ __ ] up like you could just make it up now it's insane but again then that the information comes out that that's what's going on and it makes it sort of invalid anybody hope so man I can't I think kind of in a way it does you know it's like look like the more the information comes out the more the information gets in the hands of the people the more that information becomes Invalid I mean it's

or at least it becomes a weapon that's used against him like the Petraeus situation like Petraeus is like he was teaching at City College of New York and as he's walking he has to walk did you ever see it criminal the kids follow him and scream war criminal at him and you're like whoa this is crazy this gu doesn't have any protection like they they jettisoned him they took this guy who was like the head killer right he's the head military guy The top dude who apparently like he would take credit for stuff that other

people really deserve credit for there was a lot of dissent there was a lot of a lot of real issue in the military Community they had issues with this guy I don't you know I don't know how much of this is true or not but watching him walk down the street while these kids are yelling war crimin and they're holding up these signs and they're saying we'll be back tomorrow we'll be Back every day you're teaching it's like this is CRA who who [ __ ] expected this and he can't do it let's see if

we pull pull that video find it it's a fascinating video it's fascinating because it's like who would have ever expected how would he have ever expected that a chick he was banging right led to this right right right what a weird world we live in well you could be the head of a military machine that's it responsible for what was the the it's Between x00 th000 and a million Innocents died in Iraq right over a million there was like a 2007 poll that was a million back then yeah and I can't even imagine think of

a pile of a million bodies good luck trying to wrap your head around that unbelievable but watching this guy here it is it's right here he's just walking's arrest blood all Over there's blood all over you [ __ ] why are youing at what do you have to say huh every every class David wow and he doesn't know what to do a in his face camera right there he doesn't know what to do he doesn't do anything he just keeps walking but there's no one with this guy right that is really crazy that he just

probably thought he could slink Off he's a war criminal waral wow and he's jaywalking arrest him that's illegal wow they don't touch him though they get in his face they yell at him but they never get in front of him they get to the side he's just but a war criminal they don't stop him godam it wow he just keeps walking it's just like I mean what's so weird John Yu the guy who basically codified torture is still working at Berkeley he's just Still a teacher there like I don't it's [ __ ] crazy John

Yu he's the guy who actually wrote like the torture justification in the bush like torture memos like he actually wrote the law to actually legalize torture not legalized it but codified it so that it was essentially legal yeah and he's a [ __ ] criminal man and he's just working at Berkeley I love when people do that though I mean Kissinger what kills me is that the like These the oldest [ __ ] like Kissinger and Bush Senor it's like how and Cheney it's like godamn you guys have had all the luck that you can

go skydiving when you're like 99 years old and you're like a war criminal like Bush senior it's like how are you how are you so lucky man oh god um 22 times more oxycodones uh are prescribed in Florida than anywhere else in the country and these paint centers are just still operating like they're still Operating but they've cut them back and this is where it gets really crazy the these poor people that were hooked on this [ __ ] now they have to go illegal because there's no options it's it's become a serious issue for

for people that live in Florida because you know you essentially have like all these people that are hooked and they're they're kind of coll ceral damage you know this this this like oxycotton Express comes out Everybody finds out about this issue and the pharmaceutical companies are just raking it in raking it in and they've made a bunch of people addicted they they've created all these attics by giving them this access this insane access like go what's wrong with you my back hurts here's a prescription go right next door and they go right next door and

they give them pills and the the hardest pills to kick on the planet I mean within a couple of days these [ __ ] things are deep in your bones and you're [ __ ] I have a I have a a relative mhm [ __ ] guy just lost everything he he became a junkie I watched I watched him have a regular job and then just become a lying piece of [ __ ] that never works and just always is on pills it's [ __ ] legal heroin that's exactly what it is it's like it's

it's even crazier it's more concentrated MH you just have to swallow it you don't have to shoot up you don't have to [ __ ] get a a rope you don't have to get a needle you don't have to stick a needle in your arm find a vein you don't have to do any of that just pop a pill suck on it it's unbelievable that we are living in a country where weed is still class one drug schedule one sorry cute did you see the United States um response the New York Times wrote a an

op and the government had a response and the government's response is [ __ ] high It's so stupid I'm I'm looking for it right now um uh Dave Seaman pulled it up uh if you look on my uh Twitter from July 31st I retweeted it but it's uh the response is so goddamn goofy marijuana use affects a developing brain okay here's the problem all of their arguments are all about children well they're talking about marijuana use amongst adults it has no bearing on the conversation doesn't make any sense it's completely irrelevant but their first Two

points are about children marijuana use affects the developing brain substance use in schoolage children has a detrimental effect on their academic achievement yeah you wonder why first of all it's substance use which includes alcohol which is legal it includes oxycodones which are legal includes a lot of [ __ ] which is legal yeah a lot of a lot of things acute yeah students who received and this is on the [ __ ] Federal government's website students Who received earned e or FS were more likely to be current users of a marijuana than those who earned

A's yeah okay whatever those they're they're high and they're not paying attention to Glass what are you trying to say get high because they're not paying attention in class no that school for the most part sucks a fat dick and that's probably one of the reasons why they're high as [ __ ] and not paying attention school you're trying to stick A round kid into a square hole and most kids don't like it and most kids that are creative anybody that thinks outside of aspirations in of alternative career outside of the academic process of you

know getting a degree getting a job getting a cubicle following this very rigid pattern yeah that people have a problem with it people have a problem with people telling them what to do and they get D's or FS they yeah they're more likely to be the kind of kids That'll get high you're right right and that's why Finland has the best [ __ ] education system in the world because they have like very personalized education because they know everyone isn't uniform robots that fit into like a perfect little thing a perfect package that everything's standardized

and this and that and when we're talking about like the the vapid nature of of people who like take all these [ __ ] drugs to try to fill this void or eat Upholstery And tape and [ __ ] and glue I mean it you know when you're living in a culture that tells you that working is the best like if you work hard you can get anything you want and that's not just that's just [ __ ] not true anymore man the American dream isn't available for everyone it never really was and it's just

not possible anymore and I think people just still want to hold on to this dying [ __ ] dream and we work harder than almost every other [ __ ] Industrialized Nation we're the only country literally North Korea and Saudi Arabia both offer this and we don't paid maternity leave we don't even offer paid maternity leave so what the [ __ ] I mean it's just nuts it's like I think that we just put work Above All Else and we're just working ourselves to death and it's really not what life is all about like even

if you wanted to work and get money money and really what are the chances of you getting a your dream job where it Doesn't feel like you're working um so ultimately you're going to be [ __ ] miserable working your ass off just to get the money sitting in traffic [ __ ] coming home you can't even have time to [ __ ] your wife or like make dinner and you just it's just like this horrible cycle of course that they're going to abuse [ __ ] of course you're going to abuse drugs like there's

no purpose because the purpose that you've put as your God is money and as much as we all Love to buy [ __ ] like at the end of the day that's not going to fill the void of what the meaning of life is and why you're here that's the real issue with materialism as well is a lot of times people resort to materialism to sort of plate themselves because they're so miserable with their job that at least I'm going to get a reward I'm going to buy that [ __ ] Lex they're at least

going to get themselves a nice watch they're at least going to get themselves A big TV they're going to that's going to be at least make me feel better for this [ __ ] creepy existence that I've sort of locked myself into that I get to do till I'm six 5 and then what then what then [ __ ] watch my knees give out watch my my back give out watch my body Decay what are the options I don't know I would say to anybody that's listening to this that's confused if there's another thing that

you want to do please at least try to do it find a Way other people have you know this this idea that you should work for a company in some thankless Loveless position and just keep doing it until the wheels fall off don't have kids until you have to okay right don't [ __ ] get a mortgage until you have to don't do it don't do it when you're young don't do it don't lock yourself in to needing a certain amount of money every month don't do it until it's mandatory until it's necessary right and

you could find other Paths people can find other paths but you're not going to find it paying attention to the [ __ ] news you're not going to find it paying attention to most School teachers you're not going to find it paying attention to most of the standards that people he applied to human beings that's why DC is so [ __ ] weird because you're that's where you live right yeah it's [ __ ] creepy man you're in the belly of the Beast I'm I'm Getting out of there soon I told my boss I was

like there's no way I can be here for another year I don't know Big Sir Big Sir a c opposite no cell phone reception do the car [ __ ] and just [ __ ] move out there satellite internet I'm serious dude after like I'm going to take a long break but but d so weird because everyone there it's just like Hollywood for ugly people you've heard that saying but it's [ __ ] true because everyone There is a predator and everyone there they look like a pudgy faed Carl Rove babyfaced little like Dough Boy

and they're all like these white dudes wearing plaid and all they're doing is just trying to find out how they can [ __ ] you over to try to get like you know use you to do this and it's just a super creepy predatory place and it's full of a lot of soulless people and they're all like they've all navigated there because they feel like they can Streamline their careers and just [ __ ] over Humanity essentially I mean I know that they're obviously going there more altruistic goals but it's just sad that they are

bred to say like you know this this is all that matters is money and power essentially and power just corrupts the [ __ ] out of people and they just lose sight of so much like once you're in that bubble you can't really see outside of it and it's just all this like minuscule [ __ ] that you think that You're changing stuff and really like on the grand scheme of things you're just kind of perpetuating the same system and I just think it's bad I just feel like I'm yeah there's not really too many

radical voices out there I have learned a lot more about like the incompetence of government now that I'm living there though I feel like I've changed my mind about some things because I've seen how [ __ ] stupid everyone is and how like much in a bubble people are I'm like Okay at least I understand why things are the way they are a little bit you mean as far as like the ideas of conspiracy theories as opposed to just totaling compid yeah I feel the same way The more I've paid attention to more things the

more I go listen man there are conspiracies for sure they have always existed they probably will until we have total transparency as far as people's thoughts and actions which may be coming a lot sooner than we think but More likely than not there's there's terrible incompetence and then there's people that are capitalizing on events exactly because people capitalize on events a lot of times people say you got to look who benefited from this happening actually no because anytime any tragic event happens people benefit from from it so it doesn't mean they cause said tragic event

and that's where a lot of these conspiracy theorists they make this really egregious error in Judgment because it's not that they caused the event and that's why they're benefiting because they planned it out right it's usually that [ __ ] is just [ __ ] from the get-go like 911 is a perfect example so many people have benefited from 911 and there's a lot of people that try to directly correlate those people that have benefited from 911 with having planned out 9911 with very little evidence but there's there's an old saying I forget how it

goes Exactly but to paraphrase it is like the uh there's any tragedy that is not capitalized on is is a waste and that this is like a staple of governments that they they look at any any situation where things go wrong like Oklahoma City perfect example when they blew up the Federal Building whoever did it whether it was Timothy McBay whether it was a [ __ ] Illuminati whoever blew up that building one of the things that happened was they started changing the laws on on The the ability to act against terrorism homegrown terrorism they

used to they use the term uh light what is it not light-skinned terrorism there was a clean skinned I forget what the term that they started using yeah the idea of uh looking for a terrorist that you know is like a white man instead of looking for Arabs oh the Homegrown yeah yeah homegrown but it was like I think the term is like literally clean skinn terrorist or something something like That but they changed the laws they changed the laws directly because of the Oklahoma City bombings um I after the after I like got propelled

in the mainstream they resurrected all the [ __ ] that I'd done about 9/11 cuz I used to be in the 9/11 truth movement and they were like you're [ __ ] crazy here you are on video six years ago saying it was an inside job all the [ __ ] and I was like look I don't think it was an inside job as a journalist that would be Extremely irresponsible to claim that you know anything all I can do is point out things that I feel are wrong with the official story I feel like

there's a lot of things that are wrong with what we've been told does that mean that we know what happened we can go out there and declare it no um and really at this point all we can do is point out the people that benefited the people that exploited it um because it's just the fact that you're just you know you're Just called a conspiracy theorist it's this catchall phrase that you can just use to shut down debate but I still have some questions about 911 I have a lot of questions about 911 but I

don't I don't go out there and say it was an inside job well what specifically do you have questions about I have questions about the insider trading the fact that there were dozens and dozens of warnings Beyond just the initial pdb given to con rice saying been lot in determined Strike within the US there's like dozens and dozens more directly to the top of the intelligence and the fact that they I don't blame that just on incompetence I think that someone turned a blind eye at the very least in that respect and then we know

that people bet that the stocks would fail and they [ __ ] made a shitload of money on it who were those people they never investigated it so there's just just certain things like that that that make me me raise eyebrows But you know do I go out and say building seven and [ __ ] like no because I just think at this point all we can do is point to the questions that we have and point to how they've used the event but I think that in in terms of all these school shootings and

[ __ ] the problem with this movement is that it started off I was drawn to it because I'm like I you know I'm I like to question the narratives that I'm given because I I think that they lie about a Lot of [ __ ] and rewrite history but then it's turned into this kind of conspiracy culture where there's like a conspiracy like [ __ ] ink it's like making money off everything and you're capitalizing off everything everyone wants to be this celebrity on YouTube making these [ __ ] paranoid videos about the Illuminati

and every school shooting's controlled and a false flag and I'm just like this is just that makes me just never want to touch that [ __ ] again Because I'm just like you guys have actually ruined just asking questions like yes we should all ask questions but when you're just going out there within hours of every event saying it's a false flag you're actually making people like never wanting to question like the the origin of these things and that's dangerous well which is disinformation Agent job absolutely the idea of a disinformation agent is someone who

connects some really credible ideas with Some wacky alien on the moon [ __ ] conspiracies that are so ridiculous that it makes the other stuff that it's connected to seem ridiculous exactly have you ever um read the the debunking of all that um the insider trading stuff it's pretty interesting no what is the debunking well you can go to Snopes um Snopes has it um here I'll read it uh in the days just prior to the September 11th um U attacks large quantities of stock in United and American Airlines Were traded by persons with for

knowledge of the upcoming 911 attacks right that's what everybody pars false uh Origins on 11 September 2001 four planes were hijacked and used in the attack on America American Airlines flight 11 leaving Boston Bound for Los Angeles blah blah blah blah blah blah blah leaving New York bound for San Francisco each of these planes was deliberately CL uh crashed killing all on board two into the world Trader Center Towers one into the Pentagon the operation uh taken years to plan the perpetrators knew well in advance in the month prior to 11 September blah blah blah

blah blah um unusual trading activity involving American United stock was noted by market analysts who at the time had no idea what to make of it wildly unusual discrepancies to put uh in the put and call ratio 25 to 100 times normal were reportedly observed in stock options of The two Airlines in one case Bloomberg trade book econom uh electronic trade trading system identified option volume in U a parent of United Airlines on 16th of August 2001 that was 36 times higher than usual um but it was during the final few trading days that the

most unusual variances of activity occurred okay highly publicized allegations of insider trading of advanced 911 generally rest on reports of unusual pre- 911 trading activities In companies whose stock plummeted after the attacks some unusual trading did in fact occur but each such trade proved to have an innocuous explanation for example the volume of put options instruments that pay off only when a stock drops in price surge in the parent company of United Airlines of September 6th and American Airlines of September 10th highly suspicious trading on its face yet further investigation has revealed that the trading

had no Connection with 911 and a single us-based Institutional Investor with no conceivable ties to al- Qaeda purchased 95% of the U puts on September 6th as a part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American Airlines of September 10th similar similarly much of the seemingly suspicious trading in American on September 10th was traced to a specific us-based options trading newsletter fact to its sub subscribers On Sunday September 9th which recommended these trades the SEC and Fa and FBI aided by other agencies and the Securities industry devoted enormous resources to investig

ating this issue including securing the cooperation of many foreign governments these investigators have found that the Apparently suspicious cons the consistently Pro uh proved innocuous so what they're saying is that the same company also bought a shitload of shares What what source is this I know it's on Snopes but what's the actual citation it's a good question um because I just read the CBS report cuz someone was asking me about this and I wanted to like refresh my memory and and I I mean people to this day claim that they still don't know and and

even the 911 Commission said that they didn't investigate who made money off the attack because it was of little practical significance so if that's Explained that's great that still doesn't explain how rum like how you know Rumsfeld and Ashcraft and Willie Brown were told not to fly like who the [ __ ] told them not to fly and why weren't Our Lives AS Val they were told I've heard Willie Brown on the radio show saying I was told not to fly Rumsfeld and Silverstein who worked in the building and he had breakfast every morning just

didn't show up I mean I just think that people did have forign Knowledge I absolutely do and also the whole funding operation we know that there was $100,000 wire transferred to the lead hijacker from mmud ahed which was the head of Pakistani intelligence and why the [ __ ] weren't wasn't that followed up like he was having breakfast with con like with the White House the week of 911 so it's like there's just things that I just don't [ __ ] get and I just feel like it was thrown under the rug and the fact

that Saudi Arabia basic Basically financed this whole operation with Pakistan and we flew out all of Bin Laden's family that to me is just like what the [ __ ] is that so even if you don't believe anything else if you have no other questions the fact that we are still tight with Saudi Arabia funding them allies with them and they essentially like knew about the attacks and helped finance these hijackers is insane to me that's insane yeah it's well the word they is very weird too When you start they did this and they funded

that like who is they and who ex because they came from the No No we know Bob Graham look at [ __ ] Senator Bob Graham has been screaming about this on the floor for the last 10 years saying they actually do know that they were financed by the Saudi Arabian government that the Saudi Arabian government knew and the intelligence Services knew about these hijackers where they were and and it's just unbelievable and is it Possible that our allegiance to Saudi Arabia financially is greater than the the desire for justice that yeah we we we

make so much money from Saudi Arabia yeah and that that's obviously probably the same reason why Bin Laden's family was shipped out of the country there's just so much money involved what I guess it just sickens me because if it really was the biggest deal in the world where they can Implement a domestic police state and kill a million Iraqis and Continue out this giant war on terror wiretapping the planet because of it the fact that they didn't want to investigate Saudi Arabia because like the oil money or whatever the [ __ ] trumps the

justice that says it all it does it certainly does it certainly says that there's some creepy [ __ ] going on and that this has been the way it's always been I mean this is the way they've always done business there's a massive massive amount of money in oil Right the the oil money is so hard for any of us to even we to when you especially start talking about these oligark families these families that have insane amounts of money like more like they're not publicly traded companies they're not they're not they're not they don't

have to pay taxes cuz they own countries so like the ideas that we have of the richest in the world they're not really entirely accurate because Warren Buffett and Bill Gates And what about these Prince King dudes that nobody knows about who own oil they own massive amounts of money I mean the amount of money that these Kings have and these princes and chiks like what has anybody ever accurately got a reading on how much money they have everyone watch House of sad because it gives a really good background on Saudi Arabia but I mean

it basically is like a 100-year-old like regime because they just discovered oil and they rise to This this status and if you just look at Saudi Arabia's relationship with the us like we said it tells you everything you need to know because of the utter hypocrisy in terms of Human Rights standards I mean Saudi Arabia is [ __ ] disgusting zero rights for women they used to execute gay people I think they just imprison them for life now so if we want to talk about Russia's gay law that's fine as well we should but for

[ __ ] sake let's talk about Saudi Arabia as well what is up with Russia's gay law though what wh why are they so like worried about gay people I think Russia uh you know we're talking about a country that Soviet Union collapsed what like 30 years ago so they're just like I think they're going through a lot of [ __ ] weird transitions where they're just kind of going through this evolutionary process I'm not trying to defend them at all I think the gay law is terrible um and they have a lot of Horrible

crackdowns on press Freedom as well um but I think it's just completely like apples and oranges when you're looking at Russia and you're like how come you aren't as [ __ ] free as it's like well the Soviet Union just collapsed 30 years ago like they're in a weird place like and yeah they're run by a bunch of oligarchs and it's a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] going on but I just don't understand the totally egregious demonization of Russia when at the same Time you know all these Partnerships are just so

much crazier yeah we got to keep our mouth shut about that because that's where we're getting our oil from it's pretty simple it is it's very simple I slippery how dare it's a slippery slimy world and Abby is the bladder of a small boy's fist well we've managed to piss off a lot of groups today I think we should be proud everybody hates us now the Saudi Arabians the the Jews probably the Palestinians Dennis Prager uh who else we could just Hillary Clinton's probably mad at us everyone's going to go portray us is pissed yeah

they're all go go down the list yeah we live in weird times it's it's a weird weird time to do um an internet show too because you don't have a boss like you can never do this you can never have this kind of a show and put it on television because if you did try to record it someone would come along and they would you know they would Chop this out or hack that out and you can't talk [ __ ] about them or this or it's not it's not the way it goes anymore we

live in a weird world this world is changing too it's getting weirder and weirder and I wonder what it's going to be like 50 100 years from now if you go back and I was looking at this uh video of Chicago and it was uh Chicago at the the turn of the uh 20th century from the 19th century to the 20th century like the early early days Of Chicago and there's these people that are like riding horses down the street and um I don't remember when the first cars came about it was like the 1800s

right the late 1800s they first had cars so there was like a couple cars on the streets of Chicago early 1900s and this uh you look at this place and you like you see this like very quaint existence these people lived in these early 20th century we're talking about the difference between now and 100 years From now as opposed to 100 years ago early 20th century Chicago there was this video of these people riding [ __ ] horses horse drawn carriages and [ __ ] it's so weird there was a couple cars you know there

were these weird goofy ass cars go like 5 miles hour run on de and [ __ ] but the the difference between then and now is just stunning that's why we don't need like DC like we don't need these Representatives we don't on Horseback anymore we don't have The [ __ ] Pony Express like we don't need these weird Representatives that represent like 30,000 people like going and voicing it's like the Electoral College is totally [ __ ] irrelevant yeah it's all [ __ ] but do you think that it should be like is it

possible that when you see people like Mitt Romney or you see people that are Scientologist or that that people could be too easily manipulated and that somehow or another this has to be Filtered through Representatives that understand the law but at least we know that these Representatives who are going to cast the vote for their constituents these people are educated these people are moral these people are of high standards and high moral fabric it's gross the idea is gross because it's very elitist but would you like if you lived in Utah okay and I love

Utah I just back would you allow the popular vote to decide a lot of things if you Knew that there was a giant percentage of people that were in a weird cult that had some strange strange rules but look at if the popular vote was replace the Electoral College then New York and California which is full of I think a lot more intelligent people um would have much more of a poll and you just don't even see politicans giving a [ __ ] about those States because it all comes back to the like they know

that it's going to go this way or that way and It's just it's dis disgusting but the numbers the flyover states are gigantic 300 million people 350 whatever it is in the country how many of them are in New York Chicago San Francisco how you know La is it a third cuz the other two third are dangerous you're right that's actually those [ __ ] creepers there's a a giant percentage that God Guns and RAM you know well at least okay so at least Europe This two- party dictatorship just crushing man because When you know

you have you have money in politics which is like people spend half their time if not more fundraising right so how could we ever get these people to really care about changing [ __ ] if they're just trying to make money to win the next election and the elections here are just disgusting this dog and pony show it's like this [ __ ] celebrity they spent a billion dollars last time you know if you look at Europe you can argue about the parliamentary system Because of course there's fascist parties that get in and that's not

good but at least they have The Avenues for other voices other than like two parties and I think that it's just really dangerous to have this system there was an interesting story in um The Guardian uh a couple weeks ago um that was uh it was the rise of data and the death of politics and the idea was that Tech Pioneers in the US are advocating a new databased approach to governance Algorithmic regulation but if technology provides the answers to society's problems what happens to government and this idea was sort of they're sort of extrapolating

on that that we're we don't need these Representatives anymore they're they're they're this their legacy they're this weird system that was in place when you had to [ __ ] attach a note to a pigeon and send that [ __ ] loose to get the word out you know we don't need that anymore you Could directly through your phone you could directly cast your opinion on whatever it may be you know and if we still have a representative system you you could you could make the argument that that's suppressive that that's suppressive of the individual's

right to choose for themselves and then gchq can manipulate the polls but I but I think decentralization is really I think it's really key and with technology you see things like Bitcoin working outside the System I think that we can if we can maintain net neutrality if the FCC wants to implement that and be [ __ ] for the people for once instead of Telecom [ __ ] yeah then we can we can really create some sort of decentralization online and try to create other avenues outside the system um it's just a dangerous world because

as you're saying the more information that we have the less relevant these like Authority and establishment systems will be but at the Same time it can almost trap ourselves in a box like the algorithms online it can cater your own biases toward you where you all of your Google search results are catered toward your bias and your preferential like you know searching habits and stuff so it's like what information the information that you're seeking might be different than the information she's seeking and that's not good to a free and open Society too yeah that is

weird right the Confirmation bias that comes from surrounding yourself with like-minded people exactly you get re really weird groups you know like if you've ever gone to like uh I like to go to like very bizarre websites and message boards and listen to people just debate about things people that I just never would come in contact with in real life and you know there's some right-wing Republican websites out there that are so bizarre they're they're so strange It's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you guys are serious like there was a Sarah Palin website launch

recently you know about that she's got her own online TV channel which costs more than working Liz wall is going to get a job there probably girl that's the only thing she could probably do smart enough to do but I was reading the the the comments and it's like they were trolls it's like they were like comedy trolls you know it's and then I realize like you look at The guy's profile and you follow his other comments and you go Oh no you're real oh my God you're real person you know like you know God

in capital letters is looking out for America God blesses this fine land and people like Sarah Palin and true in all capital Americans are you know what we need to get this country back on track like there's a few [ __ ] that I follow on Twitter just for comedy but and but they're [ __ ] serious they're legit Like they really one guy let me find thisy dude it's so true man everyone check out Margaret heffernon she has this awesome Ted talk about willful blindness and she has a whole book on like competition and

the confirmation bias and how her whole thing it sounds so simple but the way she explains it is just like so mind-blowing and she's just like you need to interact with people who don't think what you do like you need this is like a part of human Progress like you need to and like reaffirm and you'll learn you can't just surround yourself with Yes Men your whole life you need to be challenged every day like look and it not necessarily surround yourself with [ __ ] trolls who are telling you you know what Sarah Palin's

[ __ ] great but watching the video like that dude like the thing that we just watched about is like like do that see someone else's point of view exactly yeah this Is a one one of the guys that I follow whatever whatever label we stick on ourselves the kingdom all caps of Heaven is for who pleases the father all caps in heaven wow I love this guy who is it some dick W I'm not going to publicize just some little egg [ __ ] he's no he's got a face he's just like some really

[ __ ] uh right-wing dude I I love I love reading his stuff though cuz I just go what You're a real guy you're right dude it's so and I and I'm you know I'm a victim of it too because it's like who the [ __ ] wants to hang out with like people who are you know they're Pro isra This Guy's super pro Israel Barack Hussein Obama for isra use the IRS to attack America this is what lying lowlife Socialist Communist anti-israel anti-us demagogue does if they think Obama's a communist wow they need to

really uh Read clearly a socialist have you seen Obamacare Obamacare is a disaster the website alone has cost a billion trillion dollars and it eats babies it runs on babies Christian babies very uncritical thinker if they think Obama's at remotely a socialist well yeah I don't know but this these crazy uh super religious folks um also back Israel because they believe that Israel is where Jesus is coming back right right like did you ever see the vice piece Where they send these uh these folks uh who are like super duper religious cuckoo heads they [

__ ] their pilgrimage they're Christians from America and they make their pilgrimage to uh to Israel and they follow these people around and they they're reading scripture like out loud on this [ __ ] raft as they go oh it's glorious it's glorious in all its shithe headedness Joe have you seen An Idiot Abroad uh that's the the rich Ricky J [ __ ] Hilarious it makes everything just look like [ __ ] like it makes all the seven wonders of the world just look terrible like this guy's just miserable he goes and puts him

in the worst situations puts him in the worst hotels and [ __ ] makes his life a living hell and he's just going around traveling complaining about everything it's [ __ ] hysterical it's awesome Ry D is a genius but I want to ask you have you seen the vice special on Fukushima yes oh my good God Yeah it's terrifying I have a friend my friend ENT inway he goes over there and he provides Aid with people he's Japanese and he uh well he's he was born in Hawaii but he's lived in Japan for a

long time and is Japanese of you know his nationality his uh ethnicity rather but he's done over there um a bunch of times he goes over there and does a lot of like humanitarian Aid and he's like it's really strange because it goes cuz you're over there and you feel normal he Goes you feel fine but then you look at your radar Tech or your radioactive you Geer coun or whatever and it's just [ __ ] off the chart it's like and you can only stay there for a certain amount of time but he goes

you don't feel anything that's what's really weird about it that's what's so [ __ ] up about radiation but I just I mean even though I study this [ __ ] every day I didn't not realize until you see it like until you see that that Vice Special and you see the tanks how every day they're filling this whole cool like reactor up with fresh water draining the radioactive water like multiple times a day storing it in hundreds of tanks that they're going to run out of room all the tanks are leaking they're spilling like

30,000 gallons of of [ __ ] radioactive water in the Pacific Ocean every day they have no idea what the [ __ ] they're going to do and as the water is leaking out of these tanks they take the soil Dig it up and then store it in a empty lot like they keep it's like there's no solution and what are they going to [ __ ] do yeah what are they going to do I don't know and then the Yakuza they're H the Japanese government and TECO are hiring the Yakuza Mafia there to help

with the [ __ ] clean up because they owe them debt so all these like old Japanese men want to help they're like we know how to how like we've worked on the reactors our whole Life they're like let us go like we're old we can die and they're like wanting to sacrifice themselves and instead they're hiring mafia members from the Yakuza mob that have no idea what the [ __ ] they're doing it's a [ __ ] nightmare man really yeah what what can they do I mean I know they they have that idea

to dig this giant pit and then have it surrounded with frozen cones that already didn't work that already failed that failed yeah the ice wall it Sound like some Superman stuff yeah like a [ __ ] prison Fortress of Solitude that failed didn't work well look at I mean look at Chernobyl they have this giant sarcophagus that's cracking she was just telling me the other day that um you know that the nuclear waste even with working reactors they just have to dig a pit and put a [ __ ] sign on it with a skull

and cross bones because they're like well in a million years even though the radioactive energy will Still be here they're like at least the future civilization here will know what a skull and crossbones is and they won't be able to dig up this waste you're like holy [ __ ] why are we dealing with an energy that we can't harness properly like it's a miracle and it's magic but clearly we don't know what the [ __ ] we're doing with it well you know what all it does is make Steam yeah that's what so crazy

yeah when you see what it really just is I thought that it did Something like made electricity with the nuclear something they splitting atoms and it just goes right through the wires and they're housing it and some giant [ __ ] they're making steam it's hot it's hot as [ __ ] like couldn't they like uh do that in a better way seems like a lot of ways to make Steam can you just boil water can you guys [ __ ] what do you assho doing you guys are making some [ __ ] that you

can never shut off which is really crazy Right next to a fault line right next to the ocean it's like nothing can go Adams well they're all over the place too the really bizarre thing is when you drive down the California coast and you realize that we are on a fault like California moves all the time and then you go on the way to San Diego this is [ __ ] nuclear power plant right there similar design except very small difference it's GE it's a general electric design and they we have 22 Sister reactor here

in the US that are almost identical to the Fukushima ones well the thing about the reactors that's super disturbing is people say well it's clean it's efficient it's very it's very you know as far as like the access to the energy it's very very efficient but once those things go bad they're bad forever so you have as of now there's only two spots but those two spots are toast Chernobyl and Fukushima are [ __ ] toast those areas are [ __ ] for 100,000 years and then you have the storage of the nuclear waste from

all the other places that are still operational and you have this spot in Nevada where they have a [ __ ] hole where Godzilla goes to eat his radioactive energy when he lands here I mean what the [ __ ] man this is only a hundred years less than 100 Years of new of splitting atoms right nuclear bomb 1945 and here we are in 2014 less than 100 years you guys doing this [ __ ] and You already have two spots that are broken you know if you could look at the future and you look

at all the potential spots to go wrong like if we if we had a hot map where you you could you know everything that's blue is a a nuclear reactor that's currently working and functional and you have the two red spots and then you look at all the potential for red spots these blue ones to go bad like God we're going to [ __ ] up a huge percentage of the world with This power source and I don't know a better method but if I lived in California which I do and it never [ __

] gets cloudy which it doesn't I would say maybe that solar thing is something you guys want let's just try I mean the thing is it's not working I think that we really do need to shut down all reactors I know I've I've had someone on my show to talk about Thorium still there's a matter of the waste even though it's a much smaller concentrated Amount it's still a problem and and yes maybe we can harness it differently and more safely but at the end of the day like you said is it worth the risk

to [ __ ] have this [ __ ] out there for a million years like is it worth it when we do have other sources that's why Einstein when we did split the atom and Einstein wrote this letter to the president and he was like whoa where did that come that was me accidentally um but when when they First saw the nuclear bomb go off on on whatever the hell Island it was that they saw the first explosion you know all they told them was just to wear little sunglasses out there there's that photo of

all them they like quoted bag and they said we've become death like what have we done like the guy who like yeah that's Oppenheimer you ever heard him talk it's so creepy when Oppenheimer says it he he quoted the bhavat Gita he says I am become death destroyer of Worlds it's a really creep pull it up because it's it's it's a really bizarre CU When you actually hear it from oppenheimer's voice when he he talks about how he felt and you see his face the regret because he was a part of this thing and that's

not even nuclear energy that's nuclear bomb you know he decided you know at that point in time that they had made a tremendous tremendous mistake and here we are 2014 still our major source of electricity in the United States of America uh everyone should check out Untold History of the United States um because in it I learned that Reagan [ __ ] [ __ ] he was actually approached by Gorbachev to totally dismantle all of the nuclear weapons like he was just like look it's done let's [ __ ] close it all down and Reagan

was like no cuz I'm scile and I believe in Star Wars and I think that we can create this giant space program and blah blah blah and he Just like said no and I blame him dude he he had the chance he had the golden ticket and he gave up on it man you want to talk about conspiracies have you ever looked in the Star Wars scientists that have mysteriously been murdered no oh good lord that's a weird one here Star Wars scientists yeah if you do that if you type that in first thing that

pumps up is deaths conspiracy murdered waa yeah it's um who killed all the British Star Wars scientists and there's uh a bunch of different websites about it yeah yeah there's a uh a really it's it's really fascinating how many people died and the Mysterious deaths uh all 25 workers on the United States Star Wars project were killed what yeah what yeah yeah they died in really weird ways they died in plane crashes and all sorts of [ __ ] yeah dude it's just like the sealed all 25 workers the United States Star Wars projects and

The stingray torpedo projects um although the United Kingdom's Ministry of Defense still disputes these workers were connected to the Star Wars project most workers died either having finished important projects or when they left for other employers several of those who died had routinely expressed fears for their safety the manner of their death were also very curious and despite open verdicts or verdicts of suicide in the post-mortems there were aspects uh to Their deaths that made these verdicts seem highly unlikely one of the strangest deaths was that of shanai Warren a personal assistant for the company

that was taken over by GE Marone uh shie was found drowned in 18 in of water gagged a noose around her neck her feet bound c a suicide and her hands bound behind her backk Mark Weisner a sophomore uh software engineer for the mod was found dead with a plastic sack over his head And several feet of cling film wrapped around his head this was deemed an accident by the coroner but was exactly the same way as Mark's colleague Richard pug who met his untimely uh and several weeks earlier uh A Shard Sharie uh an

experienced defense contractor was found dead after placing a ligature around his neck tying the other end around a tree and driving off in his car with the accelerator pedal jammed down the police felt this was a most unusual Suicide method but still deemed it a suicide wow yeah he had last been seen in Bristol um uh a long way from his home looking into a guest house using cash and was witnessed by uh with a large bag of money these details although uh known to the police were never mentioned in his inquest there's a whole

bunch of them there's a whole bunch of these very my extremely disturbing yeah it's [ __ ] fascinating man it's fascinating how Many of them died because apparently Star Wars was total horseshit it was never going to work and and they knew it from the jump and all the scientists that were connected to it died so all these people that could have been able to prove that these [ __ ] had just embezzled all this money and had used you know their defense contracts and spent all this cash all the people connected to it that

actually could prove the science behind it or Disprove the science behind it are all dead that's insane that's when you know the CIA is up to some crazy [ __ ] it's amazing well it's like it kind of makes sense right you know it's all about profit at the end of the day man it really is yeah the story of berth of champagne she was like the maid of Jeb Bush or or Bush senior's family I forget who and she was found crushed with an empty car that like you know someone had driven an empty

car Backed up into the garage and crushed her to death and you're like what did she know like clearly she was killed I mean like no one an empty car just doesn't start and Crush someone against the wall this is so crazy yeah between 198 82 in 1986 23 deaths of English scientists that work on the Star Wars related projects uh Professor Keith Bowden killed in an autoc crash uh Jack wolfenden died in a glider accident Ernest Brockway suicide Stephan Drinkwater suicide by strangulation Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Godley missing declared dead George Frank suicide by hanging

Stephan Oak suicide by hanging Jonathan Walsh suicide by jumping from a build Jonathan Britain suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning these are all within like a year or two each other Shar that guy that we talked about placing the Rope around his neck and driving off this is crazy it's just like the DC Madam that woman who came out and she was like I have all the [ __ ] that I'm going to say and she's like I'm never going to kill myself and I can indict so many people and all of a sudden she just

killed herself and everyone was like oh I guess she ended up killing herself you're like do you think that that's just a little bit strange yeah DC madams those don't have a long life right that's a bad profession to get into yeah you're going to take the most Powerful murderers on the planet who essentially have all these methods and they have these organizations that kill for them right I mean they have whether it's black water whatever I mean if there is a blackwat please if there's [ __ ] Coca-Cola there's RC Cola okay there's some

lower level organizations of mercenaries it's not like there's only black water you could only go to Black Water no there's probably some dudes that are really good at being a Mercenary they know how to keep their [ __ ] mouth shut and they they don't go Eric prince in the whole thing and and you know do press conferences and change their name three or four times they might even have a [ __ ] name right you know you call call Mike you know Mike used to be a marine or a Green Beret or whatever and

he he likes making $50,000 a week better you knowa so that guy works for you got to be a ton of those [ __ ] people out there there got To be absolutely man a DC Madam DC Madam that she's dead she's [ __ ] murdered bro and whatever happened to her all of her notes and all of her no she committed suicide yeah that's the official line if you question it you're an insane conspiracy theorist well you are an insane conspiracy theorist you have to admit I am you have to be if you are

a conspiracy theorist you're insane if you if you look into any conspiracy you're an insane conspiracy theorist Which is crazy because conspiracies exist all the time on a local level people conspire to kill their kids like the kid in the car tragically who the parents conspired to like keep him in the car so if conspiracies happened between parents to kill their children why is it so [ __ ] crazy to imagine that people at a higher level are conspiring stuff because it's the whole they wouldn't be able to keep it secret blah blah blah I

mean we know that Conspiracies exist look at [ __ ] Wall Street what is that Enron yeah exactly look at G of tonin right look at operation Northwoods and look at the [ __ ] the Bush Administration was thinking about doing a false flag event to get usly into Iran oh my God I know oh my God I know too oh my God that was what Dick Cheney said what they going to do like fly a plane and like something the yeah that was Operation Northwoods where they were going to fly a plane and Blow

it up in the sky and blame it on the Cubans arm guant arm Cuban friendlies attack Guan Mo Bay that was 62 and Kennedy went what yeah B are you crazy yeah he was like no no no yeah that was signed by The Joint Chiefs of Staff folks that wasn't just like some Idol chatter like they had signed off on that can we sit talk about how stupid it is that we still like hate Cuba and have this blockade and Siege on Cuba what the [ __ ] is Cuba doing to us just a cold

war Grudge like just let Cuba just live how's Cuba worse than Saudi Arabia I it there you go yeah and not well not only they're super close and they make great cigars and the women are really pretty see and they're great great boxers and wrestlers and they're right there yeah and I want to go like I think I'm just saying this selfishly like I don't want to not be able to go to Cuba I think it's just the stupid thing in the world like we demonize this country because we Have this you know communist Grudge

[ __ ] against them and they they're actually incorporating a lot of different techniques like um the Castro family is like look we admit that a lot of things have failed in terms of like the business side and we're like being creative we're opening ourselves up to like some capitalist elements and I just I just like appreciate the fact that they're learning from mistakes Reinventing the wheel and I think that We just have a lot to learn like I just just think closing ourselves off from this tiny island nation is disgusting it's absurd and we

still demonize them you know well they are definitely [ __ ] up though I mean their their whole country and their system of government and their system of forcing occupation on people it is pretty [ __ ] creepy not it's not great but we should but I mean this whole blockade I just think is a disgrace you know it's not good for Anybody no no and I think that who knows what it would be like if we lift the blockade I don't know but it's just once again us and Israel are the only two countries

in the world to uphold the blockade it's like just [ __ ] Let It Go man well look what's going on with China who which was also an incredibly communist country you know and now they're really capitalist it's like really strange how things shifting you know I think that Cuba is uh it's it's a Very interesting place because well you remember when Jay-Z went to Cuba and he got in trouble my God and the media was like oh look at does he know that that um [ __ ] Chay hated black people you're like what

are you talking about like what is going on it was the weirdest die like 1964 or something when did CH RAR die and he also went over to Angola and fought like the revolution in Africa so it's like I don't know if that's really true but it's just so Crazy he was the perfect guy though to be on a t-shirt he just looked like such a great revolutionary I know people that wore a CH guara t-shirt that didn't know jack [ __ ] about remember there was that wave of CH guara support that happened like

like a decade ago or so like they were like you could look cool by having a CH guara t-shirt on people had CH guara tattoos and it's like why what what about Chay right [ __ ] VI resistance You know just like look like the guy and he would have hated it I mean like the fact that he's become this commercial figure it would have been like he would have [ __ ] hated that you know it's just funny that he's become this icon of like capitalism well it's a perfect example of these like surface

inquiries like people just look at it like oh that guy was badass no no like looking into it at all no trying to understand who he was or Knowing like deeply about who he was yeah there's just like a baby with fck even though Cuba's [ __ ] up in a lot of ways I it's a different way to live you know like they don't have advertisements they have old cars it's kind of cool they have these restored old cars driving around everywhere like if you see modern Cuba they have these 1950s cars they're driving

around like these old Chevys and [ __ ] it's really interesting yeah I just want to go there And just learn because they they like don't use pesticides and [ __ ] because it because of how closed off they are in a lot of ways they've just adapted in a lot of interesting ways that I just think is it's fascinating I think that we have you know I know a lot of athletes that flee Cuba so unfortunately I've seen the the the worst side of it talking to people that lived in Cuba under the Castro

regime people that tried to flee got caught You know were forced back and then escaped again I mean they these [ __ ] people got on boats and risked their lives they had to be something horribly wrong with the the conditions they were living in to force them to do that but I would like to know if that's exacerbated by these policies of not allowing trade right you know and who knows like if trade was opened up trade and also the influence of foreigners coming in there and influencing culture tourist exactly I mean I don't

you know yeah we're we're basically like forcing the society to be closed off and who knows like if they weren't you know if we allowed the fiber lines to get the internet and that's that's another problem is we don't even we've like blocked off the fiber optic like network from Cuba so it's like let them have like do they have the internet at all they have like very limited internet and probably just on GMO the US base there which by the way I'm going There next week I'm going to go on B Bay holy isn't

that weird you can go to Cuba but only the part of Cuba where it's a [ __ ] jail and how much of it it's just like a [ __ ] you to the Cuban government just to be like we're going to build like this torture base here yeah what like on like how did that happen happened obviously in the' 60s it's a long time ago they they had that base there the military base been there for a long ass [ __ ] time that was the Operation Northwoods they were going to bomb Guantanamo Bay

and blame it on the Cubans yeah it is kind of [ __ ] is that how they're allowed to torture people we tortured some folks is that how they're allowed to do that because it's over there I mean can you torture people on American soil how that work um that's a good question I think it's probably easier to absolve themselves responsibility from doing it in Cuba That's why we have CIA black sites in like Port like um you know Poland and [ __ ] so I think it's just like as long as it's out of

sight out of mind but what's so crazy to me about the GMO thing is the Bo bergd doll Saga how they're like we released the five worst of the worst it's like [ __ ] if you release the five worst of the worst then what about the other 120 innocent people that we already know are innocent like why are they still in there if it was so Easy to release the five worst of the worst why won't they release those people because they're worried that they're going to go and say what happened to them or

is it because they would have to admit that they were holding people that weren't really I mean once they do let them go then they start talking then they'd have to admit that there's probably a lot of other people that are also like that before the B Bo Berg doll thing I think that Was the bo Berg doll thing that was the dude who was um like captured by the Taliban and then they did a prisoner swap that dude yeah so he came back and then they gave those five dudes um and I think that

really blew apart the whole logic of keeping these people in in Gano Bay because before that Obama you know he got in office saying I'm going to close down GMO and everyone blames the Republicans for not letting him truth is he could sign a national security waiver And release every single one today if he wanted to and the fact that he kept maintaining well you know we can't trust Yemen to take these people back because Yemen can Harbor terrorism and like they can become terrorists and then they can retaliate and it's like well you trust

Yemen to carry out drone strikes there you're like working with the m government in all these other Fashions and that's where they release these these dudes um and I just think that we Need to [ __ ] get these people out of g mode because they're innocent and I would rather take the chance of like having someone retaliate than to keep an innocent person in prison for the rest of their life with no charges and my whole thing is if they're so bad like those five worst of the worst guys if they were so bad

how come we couldn't find anything to charged them with for 10 years like where was the charges where the hell what what happened you Know well I've seen some instances where people were released and they talked about what happened and how they got arrested in the first place they just went to like organizations they went to meetings they they they listen to someone speak and then they got locked into this idea of them being a part of this organization exactly it's just like a gang I mean you I think that we have these romanticized versions

of What the Taliban and al- Qaeda is it's just Essentially like a gang and that if you are you know like a like a teenager and you're like living in this area sometimes you are affiliated with a gang because it's how you [ __ ] survive right right or it's like how you want to provide money for your family or you do running errands because you don't want to [ __ ] get killed or beat up so all these Loosely Affiliated people with like these organizations quote unquote terrorist organizations that was like They were just

swept up and those are the people who are just killed now with drones and stuff and it's just really it's this really bizarre like interpretation of what these entities really are and how they operate um it's just like coming from Oakland like the you know gangs out in East Oakland it's like if you were affiliated with them do you deserve to die right and do you think that they can track those guys that they released the five people that They released you think they had some sort of a method like my dog is a thing

that they put under his skin you know and every if he gets you know like they they take this thing and if he gets picked up by the pound they run a scan on them and they go oh that's Joe's dog and they can call me you know there like a microchip in them I would imagine that you could have some sort of a GPS tracking device that you could stick in someone's [ __ ] scalp and they Wouldn't even know it's there or wherever you know some some part of your body yeah who the

hell knows man I just think these people need to be let out of prison it's terrible if they do let them out they're going to be mad they could cause havoc on us soil and then what so far you know what man so far there hasn't been legitimate threat of terrorism if you want to include 911 and the bosson bombing other than that zero like this report just came out we were Just talking about this this report just came out that says every single terrorist plot that's been thwarted in the last 12 years has been

completely created by the FBI and this is like mainstream news Guardian independent like all these people picked up yeah explain how that works because it's really fascinating how they do this so right now the FBI has 5,000 informants working around the clock that are getting paid probably like a 100 G's With taxpayer money just so they can facilitate create and then thwart terrorist plots to completely continue to legitimize the domestic police state and the war abroad so these people will go to mosques and they'll pre really immorally on like [ __ ] people or like

mentally incompetent people or extremely poor people and they'll say yo listen up 250 [ __ ] G's and they'll work with them for like a year like we're talking about like long con like a Long ass con sometimes so thing about you're getting paid you know an insane amount of money to do this on our behalf to basically manipulate people who are weak-minded into committing acts of terrorism that would never have the capabilities before and would never have even thought of it before but they go into these mosques and they go into all these organizations

and they're like yo yo yo like six months later they'll be like okay well you know we can talk About how [ __ ] up the US government is and stuff but let's do something about it you know and like they'll trust these people and then over time if you're weak enough you'll be like well [ __ ] like let's do it you know I mean it's just really sad and to me it's so sick because once they once they thwart the plot and then they can parade around the media and be like yo we

uh we foiled another terrorist plot like look we're still doing a good job guys but they Don't tell you that they created the terrorist and then of course they put in prison for the rest of their life so it's another wasted life wasted capacity just put in [ __ ] prison and just keeping up this facade the charade that there's terrorists everywhere and that they want to blow us up and it's all [ __ ] [ __ ] man we're more likely to get stung by a bee we're more likely to get crushed by Falling

Furniture than we are dying of a terrorist attack in This country well definitely he talking about a be [ __ ] I mean I mean dead from a beasting dead you're eight times more likely to get killed by a cop than you are dead from a terrorist here so it's just like it's totally insane and this report just blew the lid off it it it was just unbelievable knowing how much resources are going in and then you see this whole Terror watch list thing where 1.5 million people have been added to a Terror watch list

in The Last 5 Years just The Last 5 Years alone 1.5 million you think you're on there no cuz I don't think I would have been able to fly out here oh right so I think that but think about I mean you're telling me that 1.5 million people and it's really making their lives a living hell because you need flying is like you know what I mean and a lot of these people's families are over and abroad and stuff and what came out on top of that no fly list thing was That the FBI is

actually using the noof fly list as a tool to try to get more informance so they will go to like Muslim dudes and be like yo you're on the snowfly list you want to get off it become an informant turn against your community and because the people are saying no they're stuck on this list forever so now they're like using it as blackmail so there's like this huge class action lawsuit trying to like take These people off the list and it's just it's a [ __ ] mess man it's a mess it's a giant industry

that story about the guy in Dallas who is mentally incompetent who they talked into uh trying to detonate a bomb that didn't exist it wasn't a bomb it was never going to blow up there was no bomb they they they gave him a fake bomb it's they they talked him into doing it financed the whole thing funded it coerced this poor [ __ ] into thinking he was going to Blow up the bomb and then when he tries to do it then they swoop in we got you red-handed America [ __ ] America there was

even this one dude who worked at the mosque that actually turned in the informant to the FBI cuz they were like there's some dude here like trying to like talk a whole bunch of [ __ ] oh that kind of backfired on us that's us oh don't worry about it he's American what he's one of us he's a good American just let him do his thing let him do his job He's there to protect America okay leave him alone it's insane it's very bizarre it's very it's it's very bizarre that they think that that's somehow

or another law enforcement or protecting and serving like it's it's just a it's a loophole it's the DEA uses that loophole too there's a there was a rolling stone St uh story about a guy who was a dirty uh DEA agent who would do those sort of things who would get someone who was very vulnerable and slowly but surely Talk them into getting him drugs and then you know connecting them with a much larger drug dealer wasn't really a drug dealer and like organizing and manipulating him into some situation where he's going to show him

how to make a fuckload of money but there's no real drugs right and so this guy conspires with them and then they [ __ ] you're under arrest by me like use your idea what the [ __ ] man how can you me cash yeah that I mean you you manipulating People it's it's total complete entrapment entament is so wrong it's so wrong and what what's different than actual suicide bomber Recruiters in the Middle East that we like condemn they're doing the same exact thing man well we're doing it for Freedom difference we're under the

Constitution we have laws in this country that we don't really pay attention to anymore I mean how much the Constitution is valid at after the ndaa and you know and Patriot Act One and Two what's left right we kind of can do anything right they can kind of just scoop you up and lock you up and you don't have to have a lawyer you don't they can do whatever they want now they're charging animal rights activists with terrorism yeah yeah there were these two kids charged with under the animal Enterprise terrorism act and you're like

I don't know if releasing geese from a farm could be considered as terrorism well fogwa is delicious so [ __ ] those kids and Gees are [ __ ] I had a geese try to bite my baby once they're asshol are disgusting they're dinosaurs all birds are dinosaurs that made it that's what they are now they're actually thinking that a good percentage of dinosaurs had feathers they're starting to find that now which is really fascinating a lot of like Raptors like they think a lot of those [ __ ] things had feathers you know what

I almost don't like that because now it's Going to make them look silly if we like try to re reshape how they really look we're like oh they don't look scary anymore they're just like giant dodo birds that's kind of funny well kind of makes sense you know all the birds that we see today are essentially dinosaurs that survived that's really what they are we don't really have any rap yeah and especially those th those types of you know the birds with the claws the talons those weird feet yeah chicken I Have chickens I have

24 of them no way ton of chickens yeah oh cool yeah I get fresh eggs from them every day awesome but they're like they're like pets you know they're just these weird things that lay eggs that you eat you know you go grab and pick up and you don't chop their heads off and like rip their body apart and eat the meat no but I would if [ __ ] got crazy 24 of them like live off those for a couple weeks storable food and 24 chick yeah if [ __ ] got ugly I'd eat

my dog I'm going to be honest with you well kids are starving hey what are you going to do what are you do I try to look for food but you want to hear you want to see something gross pull up aerial view factory farms um I just want to show you this image that looks like a festering zombie wound and it was like this photographer that captured this image of and it's only in the US which is really like the craziest of the factory farming Um if you go on Google image searches you can

find it it looks like a giant green festering wound and it's really just like cows I don't know like millions of cows in Middle America and all of their waste like accumulating into this Lagoon it's [ __ ] nuts like there's one of them and if you yeah if you enlar that is that's that see all those dots those are all cows to the left what and those lots and that's all like the waste so what is That's all cow [ __ ] I don't know what it is man that's a satellite image I don't

know what it is a waste Lagoon at Coronado feeders in Texas find the green one too whoa and unfortunately um there's a lot of activists who you know a lot of like animal rights activists like my friend will Potter look at that isn't that nuts e what is that is that crazy what does it say in a caption that looks big that's huge waste Lagoon in Texas or nuclear way site or nuclear way Site no it's not a nuclear was site no no it's just making it yeah it's comp yeah it's comparing it to how

gross it looks but there's all these there's these laws now called AG gag laws where you can't even can't take photos of them if you see the tortured animals yeah you get charged with terrorism is that hilarious yeah if you find that I mean look what they do is horrifying right they chop their chickens beaks off when they're little to keep them from peing Each other cuz they're in such Close Quarters they attack each other and it's a disaster factory farming is horrific it's terrible that's one of the Reas I've tried to separate myself from

of that as much as humanly possible I like I said raise my own chickens I hun that's awesome I hunt now I've killed four animals this year W do you like do you like dismantle the whole thing too that's cool yeah have a freezer full of meat and I eat that and my goal is by The end of 2014 to only eat meat that I've hunted holy [ __ ] where are you hunting I go on trips wow yeah that killed that deer no way the one right there that head oh crazy that's pretty badass

I mean if everyone knew where how food was made and where it came from I think that we'd eat a lot differently and I think people would view food a lot differently it's just like we're so removed from the process of food which is really crazy Yeah well when you see it in the wild and you shoot it yourself I mean that's an animal that deer that was an animal that I got in Montana that probably had never seen a person before right because it was in the Badlands that was off the Missouri River the

same place where Lewis and Clark uh traveled wow yeah I mean it is a very very remote place there's no cell phone reception no nothing yeah it's pretty dope it's a cool animal too and it tasted Delicious no hormones no antibiotics no nitrates and we're out of time no Abby Martin you're the [ __ ] we did three hours it's over damn there's so much more to talk about we turn into a pumpkin so much more to talk about tell me anytime anytime awes like I said I'll open this [ __ ] up at four

o'clock in the morning for you [ __ ] yeah dude thank you so much follow Abby on Twitter check out Abby martin.org to ABY martin.org watch her on RT until she escapes inform Forms the Abby Martin experience and uh thanks to our sponsor thanks to Ting go to rogan.com and uh save yourself 25 bucks off of any Ting device all right we'll be back next week with a lot of more podcast so until then go [ __ ] yourselves big kiss M Mah that was so rad