These AI Workflows 10x'd Our Productivity (Q&A Special)

we've been getting a ton of questions from you guys over on social media you know how does this all play out what does this all look like in the future that sort of concept came up over and over and over again I'm hoping in the future it's just simplified here's the one model we're going to answer a lot of your questions hey welcome to the next W podcast I'm Matt wolf I'm here with Nathan L we're going to list out a ton of tools that we're using in our own businesses the tools that we couldn't

live without we're going to talk about the future of work and what happens if AI takes all of our jobs where do we go from there we're going to talk about large language models and what we see as the future of large language models and so much more get a notepad ready we go into a lot of stuff this is a fun episode so let's just go ahead and get right into it so our first question is from nah. AI so he says where do you think we will see the next best leap in AI

agents you know because we've heard about agents for so long but like nothing's actually worked yet like there was all the hype you know with baby AGI and all those that came out and auto GPT what was it like almost like a year and a half ago now MH and then really nothing happened so I think that a lot of people were really disappointed that there was all that hype but the the rumor is that you know open AI has been telling their investors that the new 01 model like not the preview that's out right

now but the actual 01 that they're having some like pretty good results with agents so M um and so I think currently that's what I'm betting on is like when you know if they're telling their investors that like usually you don't lie to investors so if they're actually telling investors that probably means it's at least working somewhat so I think that's going to be the next step it's probably not going to be amazing it's you know it's going to be you know like a lot of these things where sometimes they get overhyped but at least

if they're useful in some use cases then you just kind of it'll it'll get better from there yeah well I know like the the rabbit R1 right which was just like horribly reviewed by everybody who got their hands on it well just now started to roll out the large action model and supposedly it's pretty decent now like it can actually watch things on your screen so you train it once on how to do something like you can train it on how to go buy something for me on Amazon once you've done it once it sort

of learns how to do that and then next time you can say hey go buy me a you know a new water bottle on Amazon or whatever and it will go and and actually go through all the steps actually have a rabbit I haven't tried that yet but I hear they're actually making some good strides there on the the rabbit but it's so hard to say like I feel like everybody's vision of what an AI agent is going to be is like slightly different like we've already got perplexity which is kind of like an AI

agent where it will search out one query based on what it finds search out another query go and possibly even a third query and then present you with all the information that it came up with right we've already got that you can already create like semi AI agents with things like make.com and zapier and there's a tool called Mind studio and agents. a right is the one from from daresh over at HubSpot you've got all of these tools that are kind of agentic already right you're basically having the AI go and use this tool via

an API and then you can connect all of these apis and all of these AIS together and get what you're looking for but they're still kind of like convoluted and complex and and sort of tough to build but I feel like AI agents is sort of like a tough thing to to Really predict where it's going to end up because everybody kind of needs them to do different things for them right so I don't know if there's going to be at least in the very very near term like a oniz fits-all AI agent where people

are like this is it we got the AI agent that everybody was looking for I think we're going to have like a whole bunch of little Sparks of Agents all over the place that all do little different things and we're probably still a little ways off before it's like a a personal assistant where you can just tell it to do anything you want you know yeah I mean I think you're going to see lots of different ones where it's just for like a specific use case like you just said I saw a tweet from uh

Dan chipper the other day where he's got something they're going to be releasing where it looks like it's an agent that like goes through all your emails and like responds to the ones that like obviously just needed very simple responses and you kind of programmed it what kind of simple responses are okay for it to to give and it also like you know probably checks the ones that are spam and the ones you don't need to respond to the ones are important and it summarizes all of it for you and helps take care of it

I'm like yeah I need that so I I can see that we're that exist already or is that's something that Dan's building well he showed a screenshot of it like basically like that it's it's working internally and he like kind of said like something's coming soon so and yeah I can imagine that with something like agent. a what dares is doing that that that makes a lot of sense I hope I have some kind of directory or something like this where it's like here's an agent for your email here's an agent for like sales Outreach

here's an agent for whatever um but it's probably it probably is several years away before we have like an all one that does all of it like maybe that's like five years away yeah yeah I mean I've already started building like little things like the email one like you can use a tool like make.com and you can use folders or tags inside of Gmail and basically have make.com watch for Anytime an email goes into a specific folder and if you put an email in a specific folder then make.com follows through on a set of actions

for you right so let's say like for example you get an email that you're like okay this one is something I don't personally need to respond to it's something that I respond to often so I have sort of like a stock response that I send every time I can throw it into a folder that's like use one of my stock responses right and then make.com could look in that folder whenever a new email comes in read the email and then sort of decide how to reply based on like a handful of potential set responses and

it could save like a whole bunch of time with email right so there's already like stuff like that that you can do but I just feel like the definition of an AI agent like or or what the expectation of an AI agent is is sort of like a moving goalpost right it's like AGI like nobody sort of agrees on what AGI is well an agent like the agent that I want to help me in my business is probably a little bit different than the agent you want to help you in your business it's probably a

little bit different than the agent that you know an airline pilot wants for their career right like everybody wants slightly different things and I think it's the Nuance that makes it sort of complicated right now yeah oh I think open AI said that level three they're trying to have like different levels of AGI because yeah like defining AGI is actually quite hard like everyone has different ideas of what it means I think they put level three as agents and level two as reasoning and that makes sense cuz like that that's the reason the agents didn't

work is because agents require some level of reasoning you know you give them some kind of task they go off and get confused like maybe Ai and the other ones got confused and so they have to have some kind of reasoning to actually get past that confusion and figure out what to do next so if they have nailed reasoning with 01 if they really have then I I think we will start to see some really cool useful agents ones that actually go off and do stuff for you so the next one is from the Jacob

Gooden he's actually a buddy of mine he used to be the producer of my old show hustle and flowchart still is the producer of hustle and flowchart just I'm not on that show anymore but he asked a good question here what is your go-to AI tool the thing you use every day and would miss it if it went away tomorrow yeah so mine has become I know I know yours is probably perplexity is is that mine mine would be two like I think there's two right perplexity and Claud those are the two that I use

like every single day yeah so mine has become uh the uh chat BT Voice or whatever whatever they're calling I'm just going to call it chat BT voice I know they've got different names for all their stuff but I I'm still finding a ton of value out of that like like talking to it every single day I use it for personal stuff like what am I doing today what's my schedule or or just things I'm thinking through to take notes I use it like that in the morning I've been using it to help translate with

my wife and also my son has a ton of fun using it it's been like a really cool way to explain uh AI to him and show him what's possible and uh and also perplexity I've been I've been using complexity more and more like as I I said it to my my default search engine in my browser uh and so when I type in something in the browser now it just pops up in perplexity and 90% of the time I'm finding that that's better than the Google results honestly yeah and and also they just keep

they keep releasing you know they're they're releasing new things so fast too like people will suggest things on Twitter and then aravan the CEO will see it and respond to it and say cool idea or whatever and then like a week later you'll see him like post a screenshot or a link to the thing right like yeah I mean going back to the original question um I think yeah for me it's it's perplexity and CLA I mean perplexity for all the reasons you just mentioned I love it for research right I love going in there

and saying hey I'm trying to Deep dive on this topic what can you find for me and then it's really good at suggesting follow-up questions too right like it even kind of takes the thinking out of well what should I ask next to learn more about this because it gives you like five potential questions to ask next so I really like just sort of going down a perplex rabbit hole and I like I use perplexity all the time like constantly to sort of research topics and then Claude really really helps me dial in my videos

right especially the short form videos notebook LM has been really really cool I love plugging in stuff into that and like listening to a podcast back about a topic but yeah if I had to if there was one tool that was like if this was gone tomorrow I'd be really really bummed out it'd probably be perplexity would be first place Claude would be second place the other day I used chat GPT to sort through the latest AI news and tell me what order to talk about them in my YouTube videos and I was honestly surprised

at how spoton it was one of the biggest tips I give to people still building their confidence with chat gbt is simple just start throwing prompts in and see what it can do now to help you get rolling HubSpot put together a free guide with over 100 prompts you can start messing with right now trust me it's going to help you unlock some serious potential you can grab it in the link below now back to the show yeah I I I finally tried notebook LM with my son over the weekend too uh so we tried

repet and then we tried notebook LM same thing where we were using chat GPT voice like chatting with it getting ideas and and then just typing it right into notebook LM have you ever there was a video going around I don't know if it was on Twitter or something but there was a video going around where somebody made a text file and they just put the word poop into it like 2,000 times and then they uploaded it into notebook LM and like they made a whole 10-minute podcast about the document that just had the word

poop posted into it like 10,000 times right and they're just like you know we've talked about a lot of things on this podcast a lot of really interesting things a lot of no not interesting things and today I think we've got the most interesting document we've ever seen this document is just the word poop over and over and over again you know it sounds ridiculous but like me and my son had so much fun with it like so much fun it's like God that's like you know we've talked about like generative entertainment stff in the

past in past episodes it's like but that's like a that's like one of the first examples of like generative entertainment right where it's like yeah in the future you're going to have more and more stuff like this where you just like generate the stuff that you enjoy you know cuz everyone's different and like there's stuff that that I find funny that other people are like God that's stupid like yeah all right so moving over to Twitter SLX now rail yeah says have you found any tools that are great for coming up with YouTube video ideas

stitles uh I know know a couple of tools vid IQ spotter Studio Creator ml we would be curious to know what else you have played with and what is working well so I feel like this question is probably directed at me but I mostly still use clad for a lot of this stuff I do have a vid IQ account I do have a spotter account I do have a tu buddy account I have like all of those tools but most of those are like I use spotter to help me come up with thumbnail ideas mostly

right I use two buddy and vid IQ more for like data analysis and to watch the stats and to see and to like test thumbnails and things like that I still use Claude to help me come up with thumbnails or with titles and like Hooks and stuff like that right like I I'll go to Claude and say hey I want to make a video about X Y and Z uh help me come up with a good title for this video or what I do a lot of times now is I'll record the whole video get

the transcript from the video throw it in the CLA and say Here's a transcript from a video I recently made help me come up with a title for it right so I still kind of use the Bare Bones tools that that aren't actually designed for YouTube because a lot of these tools that were designed for YouTube are just using things like open AI or Claud or llama or one of these models underneath anyway so I'm just sort of like skipping the middleman honestly uh but like vid IQ you would use it mainly for like stats

on videos and things like that so vid IQ I mostly use cuz they've got like a really nice like sidebar that automatically shows up on YouTube and it'll show you if like thumbnails have been recently changed or titles have been recently changed so it's more to like analyze other videos on other channels than it is for like my own channel honestly um I can go look at other videos and see how well they're performing uh compared to like their normal videos it also puts like a little like a multiplier below the video so it'll say

this video is performing at like 1.5x the normal video on this channel this video is performing at 50x the normal video this this video is performing at 0.5x like it's underperforming for this channel so I use it a lot like that to see what types of videos and titles and thumbnail combinations are working for other people just to you know kind of get ideas and stay looped in I don't really copy other people's ideas but I like is more keeping my finger on the pulse saying that tube budy is an AI first company like they're

actually they actually got purchased by a company called Ben labs and Ben Labs was a giant like AI research company so like Tu budy is sort of like bu around AI these days um but yeah I I I don't really know the history too much of vid IQ or anything like that and spotter actually is really really good at generating thumbnail Concepts you can give it an idea for a video and it'll use I don't know what AI models they're using under the hood but it will generate like thumbnails based on what your channel thumbnails

normally look like so I will go and I will um give it an idea for a video it'll make a thumbnail that looks similar to like my most popular thumbnail nails but with like new elements in it so it actually is sort of trained in on my existing thumbnails on my channel like it even tries to make like a sort of face that looks like mine not really good but it'll make a like a a bearded man that looks somewhat close to me in the thumbnail just to give you the concept you know right that's

cool are you are you actually using that the spotter or or is that just giving you ideas that's so cool yeah well I don't actually take the thumbnail straight from spotter as in fact the thumbnail that it generates for you it actually has text on it that says like generated with AI right so like I can't just take the thumbnail straight from Spotter and upload it to YouTube but it'll give you a concept and I can take that concept and use it as like an image to image inside of stable diffusion and have stable diffusion

generate something that looks similar or what I've done if I really really like the thumbnail it generated for me is I take the thumbnail it generated pull into Photoshop put a little square around the area where it says generated with AI and then use generative fill to just remove it so so so so so we just discovered a business idea for anyone listening so you literally could just go copy Spotter and uh and not say made with AI and have a business right there so yeah maybe they have some they have some like proprietary stuff

behind the scenes to like actually learn on your channel and stuff like that so yeah not that simple but if yeah someone smart yeah yeah yeah for sure um let's see uh Cole mine Canary says you should address the topic of there being too many AI tools and people's inability to afford them it's going to be a problem now that specific question kind of concept came up a lot on my this like Twitter thread so when I asked you to ask these questions the thought of there's way too many tools they all want like a

L fee to use them um you know how does this all play out like what does this all look like in the future that sort of concept came up over and over and over again yeah and I personally think it's a problem right like as the guy who runs Future tools where people are like submitting tools to me every day and I'm seeing like a 100 new tools every day I only approve like 1% of the tools these days that get submitted to me because so many of them do the exact same thing and so

many of them just feel like cheap low effort money grabs right people will go and go oh I can use the um the flux you know flux Pro API cool I'm going to go make an AI image generator and charge 20 bucks a month for it right and all they're doing is putting a wrapper around the flux API and I just see so much of that and it's just low quality and it's junk right so CU what are your thoughts about the like oversaturation issue yeah I me I guess I have a lot of thoughts

I mean it feels like right now we're in like this exploratory phase where it's good that that's happening because people are out there trying all these things so we get to explore all the possibilities before we sit it you know before things stable stabilize and it's like oh here are like the five things that everyone uses right because over time that probably will happen like you know people say they hate monopolies but that is one of the benefits of Monopoly you'll have less you'll have more things baked into one product over time and then you'll

pay like one fee for that um and I think we will have that like I think in like three years from now you'll probably have like five things that people pay for and most people will probably pay for one or two things would be my guess um or you don't pay for any of them and they're ad supported right yeah but you know but there's something else though that I've been thinking about recently CU like there's been like you know Whisperers that like the the new the models from opene in the future the ones that

are going to be supposedly amazing and like people are going to think it's AGI what why do people assume that that's going to be $25 a month or whatever um and they may not be like some of these future models may be very expensive like we may start to have a divide there where it's like yeah there's like the $25 model and you're getting what you get now uh or you pay like a thousand or 10,000 a month and you get access to AGI um and because it may cost a lot to run these future

models and they may be absolutely amazing and very expensive to run um and so that's kind where I'm kind of concerned if you pay 10,000 a month for AGI can I go tell my AGI to go make me a business that makes more than 10,000 a month well yeah that's the thing is like yeah this may literally you know because we I think we've talked a little bit in the past about like AI could uh help um you know because right now there's huge wealth disparity all around the world right like and um in theory

AI could help with that by like giving everyone more opportunities and things like that but also we could end up in a situation where only some people can afford the AI and everybody who can afford it and use it well they get way ahead of everyone else right cuz like yeah if you can pay1 a month uh to use the the newest open AI model and it's basically like hiring 20 employees or something not saying that's going to happen now but like let's say in three years or something uh that could really change your life

like like people who can't afford that it's it's not going to be great for them so I I I do I do wonder about that like I think people are not thinking about that yet about yeah these things cost a lot right now but they may cost a lot more in the future I could see it going either direction honestly because I do know like going to continually work to get the cost of compute down as well right I think you know as as it gets more and more intelligent it's going to require more compute

power but at the same time everybody's trying to lower the cost of compute right like Nvidia is trying to make their chips more affordable to build and more efficient and and all that sort of stuff and micros Microsoft and others also I think they're starting to invest into nuclear as well so like we're going to need more energy as well and like cleaner energy uh so I think that's going to be one of the good things like yeah we're going to have probably cleaner energy all around and more energy so that's a good thing um

yeah I'm not trying to make it negative but uh that that is kind of like what's been the back of my mind recently like oh yeah maybe these really will require like you may have to pay like a, to $10,000 a month for like the best models yeah I don't know I mean personally I think AGI is probably a little bit farther out than like three years but I don't know maybe I'm being pessimistic I I think with like the the the tool like sort of overload concept the saturation of just too many tools too

many monthly payments I do think that's an issue right now um but I also do think there will be like a consolidation like you mentioned I think a lot of people are going to be using the Googles the microsofts the you know maybe open AI maybe anthropic maybe some of these other companies all just have like a a single platform where you can generate your images generate your videos generate your text um you know have the sort of agentic features and you pay the one service and it could kind of do it all I think

that's eventually where it's going to get in the near term um but right now I do think it's a problem I think I also think there's a lot of people out there that are just absolutely delusional with like their product ideas I think so many people are going out there and going hey look I just created a um an AI tool that can write children's books for you it's 50 bucks a month right but then like somebody will go use it once and be like cool I made an okay children's book that's nothing special why

am I going to keep paying monthly for that right like I see all the time on on the Future tools website people send to me like AI tattoo generator for 10 bucks a month who wants to pay 10 bucks a month for an AI tattoo generator at the very least I'm going to pay once get my tattoo idea generated go get my tattoo and then I don't need you anymore like I think there's so many people that are just delusional with the products they put out there thinking that there's an actual business model behind it

but really it's just like a this is a cool feature that I'm trying to make money off of quick why while AI is hot and in the news but it's not a good product yeah I mean in the non- aai world right now like the trend is to have stuff where you like pay for software once or that's like kind of a movement happening right now you pay for it once and then you own it forever yeah but with AI you can't do that so that is a problem right like these things do cost money

to run the models it's not cheap uh and so you kind of have to charge like that so there is an issue where a lot of these products where they're charging the value is not there yet and you know I I think it's coming sooner than it sounds like you do but but as of right now a lot of these products yeah you pay like 25 to 50 bucks a month and most of them are not worth it really well I also think there's probably a future and I don't know how far off I am

on this future like I don't know if it's within three years within 10 years within 20 years but I do think there's a future where like most people have like a supercomputer in their home right so like like an on device AI That's doing all of this stuff for them but it's in their house so they don't actually have to send it off to a data center or cloud gpus or whatever right like I think a lot of I think that will happen as well I think I think there's a like a big future in

on device inference for running the AIS locally right like if we're going to have uh our own Jarvis right that's cleaning our house and doing our dishes and doing our laundry and vacuuming our floors and you know does everything for us on a daily basis I have a really hard time seeing that all be in the cloud right what happens if that cloud service goes down for the day all right everything I do in my life I can't do today because that that service is down what happens if like there's internet outage is okay now

I can't actually run all of the stuff that that I've been running in my life because I can't contact Google services you know servers today right so I do think that there's probably also a future where it might only be for the wealthy I don't know but I do think people are going to have like supercomputers in their home that can like run these massive AI systems at some point yeah I was thinking about that you're talking about Jarvis but like yeah he Tony Stark is supposed to be a billionaire right in the store yeah

exactly so maybe you know it is the billionaires who have the local models cuz I mean in the future that could happen but it feels like for a long time you're going to need a lot of compute to make these models really useful and so obviously the ones in the cloud where they're benefiting from the large scale of all the servers being one place and remotely that's going to always be way better for at least for a while yeah well I mean I think the training can happen remotely but the inference would happen locally right

so you know the the the that when they actually like train and open a I know you know this I'm just more saying this for like the audience right but like when they train these big models like the newest version of of like Claud the newest version of chat GPT things like that a lot of times it takes like millions of dollars and months and months and months and months to train a new model right I don't think we're very close to doing that at home but the inference part the part where we ask it

the question it sort of queries the database and then responds to you that's a lot less compute intense so I think well I'm not I'm not sure so like based on what open the ey is saying about the 01 model it seems like it's going to be more and more intensive on the inference side so if that is how they start scaling things up and if let's say the anthropic I assume maybe anthropic is going the same route maybe they're like a few months behind open or whatever we're probably going to see all these guys

like go into the you know where basically inference is going to be more and more important like and so I don't I I'm not sure like I I think inference is going to be one of the ways that this all scales cuz like the logic side is what's been missing and so it seems like that's where they're all going to be focusing on yeah yeah but I mean I still think that the inference side it's going to like the stuff that that open AI is talking about is more for like the really sort of complex

mathematical stuff in the current state I don't really think I don't know how to word this but I don't really think that like making it take a lot longer on the inference side is what people are going to want so I don't like I think they're going to have to figure out how to like really really shrink that time down so when you give it a task you get the response quickly right I think slowing it down is cool if I need to like analyze a complex math problem or write some code for me or

something like that but if I need to just like get a response really quickly on the best ice cream shop near me I don't want it to like analyze for 15 minutes before it gives me a response yeah yeah but that's where that's that's where you would scale up compute so if you scaled up compute you could do that faster like so I I think those systems like they'll they'll want that to be fast they know that that's not usable for regular people like waiting you know 20 seconds or a minute or whatever like people

are going to expect these things are happening almost instantly yeah yeah yeah we're we're getting very theoretical here let's see um all right so Rumble pack news says how will AI change content creation like being a YouTuber will AI replace YouTubers I personally think that as AI gets more and more prolific and more and more people use Ai and turn to AI to get responses to their questions and to learn about things I also think simultaneously being a real human that people actually like relate to and know as a real human with real real human

thoughts is also going to become more important at the same time right because I think the lines are going to get blurred really really quickly between what content was actually generated by Ai and what content wasn't I mean when it comes to like written content those lines are already blurred it's already like nearly impossible to tell whether an article was completely written by AI or completely written by a human or some sort of hybrid of the of the two right and I think you're going to see that happen more and more with video and audio

and things like that as well and as those lines blur I think people like us who are actually putting our face out there our voice out there our opinions our predictions those kinds of things I think there's going to be value in that in a world where people are having a hard time telling difference between reality and not reality you know we we've already seen this a little bit like with like vtubers you know where they have these like virtual avatars and they talk and they're like cute and people watch them on Twitch and things

like that and that's kind of like a niche where I feel like probably AI videos Maybe similar where people are going to think that's cool and some people are going to be into it and you'll see some really crazy stuff with it because you you can basically take vtubers to the next level where like there's all this interactive stuff going on that'll be fun but I think that'll just be like a niche but and I think like you said more and more people are going to want some kind of human connection and to feel like

they have a relationship with this person that they're watching and that they're learning from or or that they're enjoying their content so I I don't think if anything I think actually maybe YouTubers and having having a personality in anything you do in business is going to be more and more important in the future I mean like I I do believe we're heading to the point where you can SP up a company and maybe you do pay the $10,000 a model and you're saying hey I'm GNA I'm going go copy so and so's company and I'm

going to throw these resources at it and try to beat them you're going to see tons of this they business is going to get more and more Cutthroat uh and so because of that having some kind of personality that people actually care about that's where you could have some more loyalty that people are like oh I like Matt I like Nathan I like you know HubSpot whoever right I think that's going to be more and more important over time so if anything else if anything I would be doubling down on making sure you have a

personality in the work that you do yeah yeah and I I think you know the the types of channels that might struggle are more of like the faceless channels that are creating like informational content that just have a voice over and nothing else I think that kind of content is probably become more more of a struggle um mostly because I think it's going to get way oversaturated as AI as you know we're going to get to a point where you can just say generate me a video on how Quantum Computing works and it's going to

spit out a 15-minute video with a voiceover with background music with sound effects with b-roll and that video is going to explain you know how Quantum Computing works and you're going to be able to put that on YouTube and if you're like the first few people to do it you'll probably do pretty well but over time a I can generate that myself I don't need to go to YouTube and find somebody to generate that for me and then publish it to YouTube but B you're going to see YouTube just get so oversaturated with that kind

of content content that was just like somebody entered a prompt took the output uploaded it to YouTube right there's going to be a phase where that is happening a lot like I'm predicting that right now give it like a year and a half we're going to see so much just trash I mean it'll be good value content but it'll be so low effort that there's going to be so much of it and that I think is what worries me about YouTube but I also feel that's where the potential is is if you want to be

a YouTuber because being that real person that people can see and relate to becomes more valuable there'll be a window where I don't think people will realize that it's AI generated right I yeah like like on Facebook you see it right now Facebook yeah Facebook's the exact example I was thinking of yeah yeah yeah on Facebook you see the older people the Boomers or whatever where they're like oh my God that's so cute like people are posting like obviously fake photos of whatever uh I saw it was was like a a cat snowman it was

like a snowman that was B and it looked like a cat it was Snowman and they were like you're amazing I can't believe how talented you are I like oh my God uh so cyber cyberg go says do you feel that there's a disconnect between creators in the AI field and the general public are we as creators sometimes too disconnected from the ethical or social issues that this technology brings and the reason I like this question is cuz personally I don't feel disconnected from those concerns at all like I I sort of live in both

bubbles like I live in the AI Creator bubble of everybody making the videos and the images and you know using all the large language models to create cool content but I also follow a ton of people that are like against AI not the people that are like you know responding to my tweets with like screw you AI sucks right but the people that are actually out there like bringing up really you know good arguments against AI right there are people out there that are doing it in a way where they're not just saying oh you

like AI well screw you I hate you and I'm just going to like cuss at you every time you tweet there are people out there that are like I see your points here's my counter points right and they actually want to healthily debate people who agree with AI and I follow a lot of those types of people as well so like in a lot of my content that I put on YouTube I like to look at it from both sides of the coin right like when I'm talking about a new AI video model I will

always kind of talk about this is why I think this is really really cool but also here's some of the issues I see with this as well right like when it comes to um you know tools like mid journey and stable diffusion and some of those kinds of things I think it's really really really cool technology I think it generates some amazing images and it opens up the floodgates for anybody to be creative and to you know bring into this world anything that they can imagine and I think that's super aming amazing super empowering but

at the same time I also think yeah but they scraped you know millions of other people's images to train this data set and those people didn't get compensated and I can go to some of these tools and say generate an image that looks like a Banksy I don't know I couldn't think of a better artist in the moment but you know generate an image that looks like this artist and it generates an image that looks just like the work that that artist would have created and I do think that like the ethics of that sort

of bother me right so um I'm I'm constantly trying to look at things from both angles I tend to live on the side of technology is going to progress whether you people over here like it or not so I'm going to learn about it and I'm going to live with it and I'm going to use it and I'm going to try to implement it in my various workflows but that doesn't mean I'm not sensitive to the implications on the other side of the coin with it I just don't think that there's a sort of um

you know rewind button I don't think there's any going back on this now and so like if I was in that position of I don't like this so I'm not going to use it I I feel like I'm putting myself in this like helpless position of of like I'm going to try to stop this from ever happening but the strength that I have is not enough to stop this moving train it's just going to plow right through me so I tend to operate on the other side of the train I'm going to ride the train

instead of standing on the track trying to put my hands in front of it and stop it you know yeah I mean I think we feel pretty similarly about it I mean I yeah I kind of consider my per myself like a you know uh effective accelerationist you know uh you know definitely a techno Optimist uh but some sometimes those people get a little too crazy like accelerate everything don't care about any of the consequences uh I definitely I don't really feel like I'm in that camp um but I do I mean I I personally

feel that um AI is going to make the world way better um but the same and I think a lot of people have actually not properly thought that through like what AI will enable for us in the future uh in terms of Robotics in terms of scientific breakthroughs uh all all kinds of different parts of life that I think AI is going to make better for us um but there are going to be some major issues like I the main thing I think about is not really the AI art stuff like I understand that argument

too but I don't find as much interest and and think about that I think more about the the job displacement I think really is the thing I think more about um you know actually did I did a speech kind of talking about something similar to this at Stanford several years back um talking about uh you know how I I grew up in a small town in Alabama and yeah I love technology and Technology usually makes things better but in my Small Town Alabama like as soon as like all the factories were gone they went other

places uh you know life changed dramatically um and and this this happens throughout history and it's like it's the the adjustment is hard for people and it does it does have material impact on people's lives um so I I do feel a lot of sympathy for that and I do think major changes are happening you know in in my newsletter like on l.com that's what I try to talk about a lot is like how can I help people thrive in the age of AI because that's all you can do like you be as positive about

this as you can and try to figure out how you're going to you know ride this wave um because there's no stopping it like there's no way it doesn't matter if you're on the left right whatever no politicians if they're smart are going to be against this because it is what's going to help America be a leader in the future economy you know just like how we were the winners in the internet and that enabled our entire economy to continue growing like it has uh and the same with entertainment and weapons and other things in

the past uh computers everything else it's the same thing with AI like we have to win at this so there's no you know no no matter what anyone feels about it there's no there's not going to be stopping AI it's going to continue getting better um and so yeah so I do think a love about Job displacement and I don't think we have great answers to that like there there's going be a lot of new opportunities but there are going to be major job losses like major so yeah I tend to be optimistic about the

abilities of humans and their Ingenuity and their ability to figure out you know what value they can bring next you know maybe the value isn't being the guy that enters data into a spreadsheet and files your taxes for you maybe the value isn't the guy that you know goes through all of of this previous case law for you and you know helps you fight an argument in court maybe some of that kind of stuff goes away but I do think humans will find new ways to add value to the world I mean the the the

the people who sold ice blocks hated it when the refrigerator came out right the people who the people who um were painters hated it when cameras came out the people who were um hardcore Enthusiast of photographers hated it when photo shop came out and anybody can manipulate photos like this story is a tale as old as time but humans have always continued to figure out how to thrive and figure out how to like move to the next thing and they've always figured out how to create new value in the world when the old way they

created value ceased to be a way to create value and I think it's going to continue that way and I choose to be optimistic about that because I don't see the value in being pessimistic and feeling like oh know the sky is falling we're all doomed like you can choose which side you want to think which side you want to put your brain energy towards and I'm going to put it towards the optimistic side because the other side just feels like hell to me right right and I do feel like the AI may actually help

here too right people people not realizing it but like imagine like yeah in the future and someone's going be like oh my God yeah yeah it's going to help it took my job and then it's G to help me uh but there probably will be scenarios where like people lose their jobs and have to rethink their lives and then they're like and then AI is way better than they're like literally chatting with AI and the AI like okay you're good at this kind of stuff you're not good at this it kind of like actually learns

about what you're actually good at because everyone has different kinds of things they're good at right and it actually learns what you're good at and it helps you put together a plan of what you should do next I think that kind of stuff is going to happen where people start entirely new careers uh new side businesses whatever just because the AI helped coach them to do it and then probably had AI agents to help them even execute on some of the work right uh so I think you're going to a lot of that where people

before who could not do a business maybe because all the legal stuff was annoying or accounting or whatever stuff that they were not interested in now ai is going to help them do that so I think you're going to see a lot of new opportunities for people as well yeah if you lose your job here here's here's the game plan just talk to Chad no here's the game plan if you lose your job take your entire life savings uh take out a second on your house or use credit cards or whatever go buy as many

um cyber Robo Taxi as you can from Tesla and then just rent them all out and then you get um income from these taxis just driving people around there you go all you got to yeah yeah the the value that people add to the world may just be the ownership I am I am joking but um you know that is get inidia stock I thought you to get in invest in inidia right now and yeah sell everything you've got like quite honestly like you know joking aside I do think like people like Elon love them

or hate them I know a lot of people hate him uh some people are probably going to say I'm never going to tune into this podcast again cuz Matt mentioned Elon I've gotten those kind of comments on my YouTube videos but love him or hate him he is trying to create additional revenue streams that don't require labor like if you look at what they're doing with the robo cab he's basically saying and I think his numbers and his timelines are way off because they almost always are with Elon but he's basically saying you can go

buy one of these Robo cabs for $30,000 it will take you around wherever you need it to take you around and when you're not using it it will autonomously go and tax the other people around and you get some of the revenue from that right so like I think maybe in the future like that's the kind of revenue streams people are going to be generating now probably not the best example because you've already got you've got to be able to afford one of those to sort of get your feet in the door on something like

that but I do think like new Revenue generation models are going to pop up like ignore the rooc cab thing I think new Revenue generation models people haven't even thought of yet are going to pop up and replace some of the more laborious tasks right whether it be um you know the the the the blue collar mining will be done by robots or the you know Excel spreadsheet accountant type stuff is going to be done by you know AIS right I think a lot of that stuff is going to get replaced but new stuff will

Bubble Up that is going to allow you to provide value to the world yeah and on the other side too A lot of the stuff he's building will result in abundance and the entire idea of like our economy is driven like based on like abundance scarcity like what's you know supply and demand like if there's if it's if it's cheaper to produce things the cost will go down and so over time the cost of living will actually go down because of these inventions and people are not realizing that like when you have robots out there

building all this stuff for us and it's cheap to make them uh the cost of everything is going to go down awesome well I do think that's probably a good place to to wrap this one up I think um you know we went off on some tangents and sub brants and went sort of deep and theoretical with a lot of these questions so we actually only got through maybe like 25% of the questions that were asked but we are going to save this thread we are going to do more of these like ask us anything

kind of episodes in the future they're a lot of fun we'd love just sort of riffing on whatever anybody wants us to talk about we like for me I know that's like one of my sweet spots I love not knowing where the conversation's going to go so that's a lot of fun we are going to save any of the questions that we missed and circle back around to some of our fa in a future episode so thank you so much to everybody who did ask your questions over on X over on LinkedIn over on threads

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