you said earlier about being rattled after everest one would never assume that of course you climbed the biggest mountain in the world and you come down and you're rattled and your confidence is knocked i think big mantas are humbling you know and sometimes you you take on these big projects and it's about come on we're gonna do it and you you're full of that confidence but um but it's often quite surface and i think when you see things close up and i think i came away with a real awareness of that i've been really lucky
and got away with my life where others hunt up there and this stage everest was killing one in six people's lives you know and beforehand i read about that and it was almost kind of it was almost glamorous it was almost like romantic you know but you see the see the reality of it close up and it's it's not romantic it's dark and and difficult and confusing and uh and i think my feeling at the end of it was that i got really lucky you know i've been no doubt dug deep in a few big
moments and you know it was some 92 days on that mountain so there's a lot of time to do have to dig deep but ultimately i had a bit of luck at key times and i think i came away aware of that and and grateful for that but less certain that just because you're determined in life doesn't mean everything's going to go well you know and i think beforehand i kind of thought if you give over this we're going to work out but as you know in everything in life there's no guarantees you know we're
we we live a a gloves off life you know life is gloves off there no rules of kind of like if you if you give this school going to be you know roses and sunshine you know you can give the best in the world it's going to be hit you sometimes you know you get ill or something happens and i think that's the part of me that got a bit shaken and but you know that's just life and you have to live with your eyes wide open to that and still choose to try and make
the good decisions and pick the good attitudes and put them on like a t-shirt every day that even though gloves are off we're gonna go for this we're gonna do our best to be positive do our best to give our best and keep going for it those four people that passed away were they climbing with you two russians and a brit new new zealander from other teams but they're larry on the mountain at the same time and and never came back and i remember with their teammates you know afterwards just them them in tears and
sitting with them and it definitely made me question a lot of the time is is any mountain really worth a life of wish a clear answer is no but at the time sometimes your ambition is you know it's like we're gonna go for it and and that's why i think now kind of with a bit of time and experience would i would i do it now would i take a one or six chance of not coming home now no because you have more to live for but i think at the time i was like i'm
all in i'm going to go i want to make my mark you know at a young age and uh and the truth is i got lucky [Music] you