okay passionate engagement passionate engagement I'm not an expert in this sub field of longevity by a long shot so you can probably have someone on the podcast at some point which I would consider fascinating I would at least watch the episode you get one View From Me hey I do run a robot Farm in China that will give you a 100 million more views you have to pay for that sort of thing yes so at least we have this robust correlational data that shows that people who are passionately engaged in one or multiple sequential or
overlapping lifetime Pursuits seem to outlive most other people we know it's correlated I'm aware of no causitive mechanism through which this occurs it strains my brain to imagine one and maybe the causation data is already around I'm just not up to a date on the stuff so please ask chat GPT about this ask chat GPT or Claude or whoever about is there mechanistic presupposition or good evidence of how passionately engaging with anything in your life can increase your longevity and quality of life there that data may exist but at the very least we know the
correlations are pretty airtight and there's just so many people that have lived much longer than you would expect because they were passionately engaged and so many examples of people that were like eh and they don't live a long time so at least as a check the box just in case sort of thing yep it's probably worthwhile to have in your mind if you want to live the longest not to have this perspective and this goes back a little bit to the stress discussion of like if I'm going to make it really far I got to
chill all the time and never involve myself to passionately anything because passion gets the heart rate going and that's bad on the other hand you want to consider it as there a balance but also it it's at least worth a shot to get into that passionately engaging with something what do I mean by that let's say you are just huge on World of Warcraft think about it day and night you play it all the time you have friends that play it the game evolves all the time even something like that is statistically as a correlation
likely to keep you alive for longer than if you have nothing about your life that really gets you going in the morning nothing you're building another thing is creating something people who create inventors statistically outlive like almost everyone it's really kind of strange composers outlive almost everyone because it they have a mission and it keeps them seemingly so engaged that it may have some benefits game in some ways some in maybe this is a maybe but here's the thing on the longevity side it's a maybe on the quality of life side it's 100% certainty which
is why it also categorically belongs in this discussion because even though the longevity stuff the lifespan is correlated maybe it's causitive the causation element of quality of life is 100% a thing your quality of life is measured in a bunch of different ways but one of them is like do you are you really involved in what you're doing do you really like what you're doing like imagine you had to describe you know you meet someone on a plane sitting next to them and someone's like what do you do and you're like uh oh like I
do podcasts and stuff and they're like do you love it and you're like it's all right it's it's a living like you are clearly being factious because if I may guess Chris this is a deep involvement for you having conversations with mostly intelligent people occasionally sprinkling me in this is a thing you do and a thing you really give a about that is probably going to be good for your quality of life simply because it's even just a sub definition of the quality of your life you're in 100% on something for hours a day it's
a really huge benefit in the statistical literature that we see and so at least worth a mention on two grounds of Might causatively enhance your lifespan but almost certainly will make your quality of life much higher is this the effect where we see people who retire from their job at a particular age and then there seems to be this sort of drop off towards death people that retire earlier people that retire later might be part of that the other part as a big proponent of science physically big not smart just big um I want to
say that there's almost certainly a big feature of that Dynamic it's a true dynamic is reverse causation or a causation of an underlying variable if you just don't have it anymore at work because you're dying you quit work and then you die uh but but there may very well be this situation where even if you still got it if you quit work your life drains of meaning and then yeah probably multifactorial as well providing you with uh Community providing you with structure every single day you're maybe moving maybe you're on your feet with some sort
of job you're getting your steps in it's like it's you know it's all of these things H work will set you free ah shouldn't say that to you huge you know uh I quoted my dad once on the internet who said work will set you free and I had a friend reach out and be like you do know that was like a sign above like owitz or birkenau or something and I was like it's still right though and like you know my dad is as ashkanazi as a GU so tell him that by uh okay
other people I've heard that don't like them Chris I'm sorry they smell they look at me funny I think they look funny what else is there to say that's true but apparently you need them to live longer yes through vampiric consumption of their body fluids ideally you get them in infancy but infants are so hard to find nowadays Birthright decline will do that to you that's right that's the real tragedy of birth rate decline no more suck the spinal fluid out of what is Hollywood even doing to stay young and healthy um a very very
similar statistical picture here as to the involvement stuff passionate involvement was something you like is seen in this situation with community and social relations family Friends Community involvement are very tightly correlated with your longevity and because most people like a certain amount of them they are in that sub defin of quality of life so we could just say that is really great um it's a big deal and in many cases people will get all of the socialization they want and no more like I'm in Austin right now doing a bunch of if you text me
to hang out and I'm interested in hanging out I'll be like where when if I'm not interested I'll make up some excuse like hey I'm super busy catching up on something anyway see you I'm good to manage my own so that's totally cool most people are doing a fine job at that however there are many people that have two things going for them one is they're not extroverted in a way that outreaches to get other people to hang out with them and two they simply are not aware of at least the correlational relationship between that
and quality of life and Longevity and so some people are totally fine being hermits but simp people some people are also totally fine being hermits but when they actually engage in social interaction where it's foisted upon them they have like a breath of fresh air go through them and those people specifically need to be keen on making sure that they do at least the bare minimum to continue to involve themselves with other people now typically in many cases it's just not a problem Middle School too many people high school same people College uni a lot
of people you can be ostracized in those situations you can be a loner but a lot of times that's either by choice or by you just don't like those people as you get older many people report that their ability to form new friendships or sustain older ones it falls off this that some kind of like Doom and Gloom scenario get old everyone leaves you and dies that can happen but there are many many many ways in which you can get yourself involved there are community centers there are various uh games and sports and involvements and
everything at any age it's possible for you to reach out connect with people and regularly schedule Hangouts be it with family and friends be it with other people be in a volunteering capacity you don't have to have like deep close ties even if you just interact with other humans like at a soup kitchen for the love of God several times a week that seems statistically better than just completely Walling yourself off if you're a kind of person that's inclined for some sociality so make the effort is what I'm saying in other news this episode is
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