[Music] I'm super grateful and honored today to have Scott Drummond join us the background story alone to why we're here today could be an interesting thing enough to talk about how we ended up here even that has affected me but what we're gonna actually talk about I think has the potential to really help a lot of people and I'm so honored that you've agreed to be here today there's moments in some people's lives where they have these big resets their priorities shift or something big happens and it just changes everything it seems like you've maybe
had more than one of those moments in your life and I've been honored enough to hear a little tiny bit of some of those but sounds like most people haven't heard some of these stories so the one question I wanted to ask you is why why now why did you feel like this was a good time to share some of these really kind of personal moments for you well the thing that kind of brought to mind was what's happening right now with the Cova 19 there's so many people out there that are afraid of what
might happen to him and for me it's not a fear for me because of what I've gone through before with I'll pass in a way for about 20 minutes and seeing things that I most people don't get to see when I started thinking about after talking to you on the on the trail that day was how people shouldn't be fearful of of death what it did for me when I was 28 years old was to kind of wake me up and find out where my values are and where my where I'm sitting with my family
and where I am placed with my father in heaven you know the time I was working for the government I was working with out of town and and didn't spend a lot of time at home and what it did for me was it brought me closer to my family Here I am almost 67 years old and I've talked very little about this because it's meant a lot to me and it's other than telling maybe a couple of family members and of course my wife no one knows about what happened in my mind it is very
vivid every every day I was up on the ski slopes in Park City and having a great time we were skiing all day and I was in the lift line and all of a sudden a lady came down and she had her poles going every which way and and ran into us in the ski line and well it'll say I skied the rest of the day when I got through I took my glove off and down at the car my thumb was hanging straight down and it out by thumb completely out of the socket and
I knew I had to have something done it started to hurt once I got into that warm vehicle you skeeved the whole day with your thumb hanging around yes yeah I knew I had to get something done so we scheduled surgery and got prepped in what I remember most vividly was sitting in the operating room and and the doctor put a sheet between me and my right hand and my thumb right thumb was tore down and and there was a nurse in there and the nurse and there made mention to the doctor that she'd never
done a tourniquet before and don't quite how to change the valves and and the doctor said that he'd talked her through it [Music] [Music] growling in a situation you have you put a tourniquet on right here and you have two valves one is to tighten it up once to loosen the pressure and what happened was both of them more time to begin with in the nernst and did the one valve and and the pressure started coming back on again and she opened the second valve and forgot to close the first valve and all of a
sudden I had the sensation of something going up my arm it crossed into my heart and next thing I knew I was above my body watching the operation though it was unique about it was I wasn't by myself I had someone right beside me watching and I don't know if this is normal or not but I watched every stitch that was put into my thumb I watched I watched the nurse go running out of the room saying that I killed him and which was I'm sure put a lot of fear in her mind that what
she did didn't work but I said and even though I never did see the person next to me i sat right next to him as if I knew that person and everything was done through the mind there was no talking I could hear what the doctor was doing but I could never hear mouth-to-mouth what was being said with the person and it was next to me and we sat there and watched the operation and I can't tell you how long because there was no clock on the wall or or I didn't have a watch on
we we watched how serious the doctor was about finishing his surgery home with almond I watched him take a cut me here and here and Tara tendon out I saw him wrap it around my thumb and I started watching him put beat him back together something that was supposed to be a very simple operation and being not so not that's so good in the end we sat there for a little while and I can remember I was sitting above I was laying down and how you lay out with your arm like this with the sheet
right here and I was sitting right up here above watching the surgery and then I watched I had a in my mind I was told okay it's it's time to go and I remember so vividly I could never look back it was instructed never to look back yet again and the next thing I knew and it was like a twinkling of an eye I was standing in a in a field where he the person that was with me was right next to me but I I couldn't seem and I looked over to the left and
there was some great big tall trees and I remember they were the most unusual looking trees at a long trunk with the leaves up on top and there were lots of them and then to the right of that which would be still to the left of me was wild flowers just beautiful wild flowers and they were up about to my waist and I I just remember looking and seeing how beautiful the flowers are because it's something that I really enjoy as is yard work and gardening and I just remembered the vivid colors were just magnificent
and then in front of me and then to the right was tall grass that came up probably about my waist high and I was just stand-in there and the next thing I knew the person that had escorted me there was not there anymore and I was by myself but it was so peaceful everything was it was really what I remember so vividly was I could see a long ways to my left I could see a long ways to my right I wasn't allowed to look back but in front of me was a at the time
it seemed like a cloud it was just a white cloud and all of a sudden in my mind I started watching a video of my life and I saw it from from the day that I was born until I was 28 years old everything everything that I had done in my life good bad it didn't matter because what mattered was that's what I was being judged on was what I had done and I remember I remember some of it hurt but some of it made me feel good but it was what it was there was
I had no one there to are he was no one to say I didn't do that no I did it but there was a lot of things at that time in my life that I was I wasn't really as on track yet on my life as I should have been it was at that time in my life I was working for the for the government for the postal service at the time and it was all about getting ahead making enough money making enough money and I was working I remember at the time I was working
in jackpot Nevada which is way out in the middle of nowhere and knowing that everything that I was doing was for myself and not for my family and I think probably out of all of that that I watched it was you know some was good some was bad but I knew that I had to do better with my life I remember all of a sudden just being so peaceful after it was all over there was it was real nothing you know there's no fake stuff there was no you didn't do this or I didn't do
that I did it it was all about me and what was so vivid was it was in my mind I wasn't talking to anybody I wasn't negotiating it was all in my mind and I was visualized them and it I leave when I got through I went it's over you know I I knew that I was dead and I knew I was moving on I was instructed through my mind and that person wasn't next to him but in in my mind to get up and start walking forward and I walked up to this white cloud
and an arm came through only about this much it just came through and I'll never forget it it was an arm that was strong it was somebody that had worked in either in the farming industry where his arms were big and his hands I remember we're strong they were bigger than my hands they were a lot more meaty and he reached out like this and I reached towards his hand and he said it is not yet your time you have more things yet to do he pulled his arm back through and I didn't see it
again because of the cloud that was in front of me and that time I went back into my body the doctor said that there was a war going on inside of my body the war was that I did not want to come back because it was so peaceful yeah I remember him saying what was going on but you know why would you all over the place on that table and I told him that I didn't want to come back it was it was too beautiful on you where I'd been and come to find out I
had a paper on my chest and it it pronounced me dead for 20 minutes and I'd been gone but I was gone in it the most peaceful place that I could have ever went when they willed me out Connie was out in the hallway she had no idea that anything had ever happened to me but for three days I have never had so much peace of my life as I it's unbelievable the peace that I had for three days laying in that hospital bed and the doctor it's kind of funny the doctor kept coming back
in and checking on me to make sure I was okay and was extremely nice to me it was a doctor scours Skousen just so you're aware to Scott's wife Connie is sitting right off-screen so you don't think he's talking to himself oh no this isn't my that this is my escort my wife Connie [Laughter] well we've been we've been married 45 years and this is something that I have kept very private and sacred in my life because I because it meant so much to me [Music] well it changed my life changed the way I think
about things that changes the way I think about my my wife we are together and we are one instead of trying to be he went on one would want trying to be one at least I am trying I'm not perfect I've got a lot to learn in life my life is taking me in a whole different direction since since I was 28 years old it's kind of brought me closer to my father in heaven I know there's a god I know without a shadow of a doubt one thing that I can also say is I'm
not afraid of dying because I know how peaceful it's gonna be my thumb works today very good I call it my Bionic thumb but a but I I love my family I love my wife thank you so much Scott for sharing there's so many things to be taken from that one alone just that you have zero fear of dying in the world's current climate that alone if some people could latch on to that and just know a lot of people have died in the past two months knowing that this life isn't it that there's more
and that it's the most peaceful you've ever felt one thing I thought was particularly poignant as well that idea of of never looking back that's something in our lives too I think we hold a lot of baggage and maybe we feel bad about things that we've done I think that's a really interesting message that you had while you were there that we can also take away is that like you can always start again not everyone is going to have an experience like that but you can take Scott's word for it on what it's like and
that this life isn't it and that there are times where you just have to reprioritize reset and don't look back don't look back at what you've done aside from using that as inspiration to change your life and to to do something better so thank you thank you so much appreciate it [Music] [Music] you [Music]
