if we jump into the present uh with the the Bohemian Grove and the Bilderberg Group bilderbergers uh so the elites as I think you've referred to them so this Gathering of the elites uh can you can you just talk about them what is what is this well first thing I have to point out is that Bohemian Grove is a place not an organization it's where the Bohemian Club meets it's that 2700 acre old growth Redwood near you know North of San Francisco the Bohemian Club began way back to the 1870s it's its initial members were
mostly journalists okay in fact supposedly the name itself comes from it was a term for an itinerate journalist of Mo paper to paper was called the Bohemian and although I think there may be other reasons why that particular term was was chosen as well but I I think the original five members there were know there were like three journalists there was a a merchant and there was a ventner guy owned a Vineyards California House surprising none of them terribly wealthy but they formed an exclusive men's club was and still is nothing terribly unusual about that
at the time but it became fashionable and as it became fashionable more wealthy people wanted to become part of it and the the thing about getting rich guys to join your Club is what do rich guys have money and of course it's one of those Rich guys that bought Bohemian Grove where now you build your your old boy summer camp which is what it is they got cabins with Goofy names they go there they perform skits they dress up in costumes yeah true some of those skits look like Pagan human sacrifices but you know it
just get what's really going on there so on the one hand you can argue look it's it's it's just it's a rich guys Club they you know they like to get out there the whole motto of the place is weaving spiders come not here so we're we're going to talk about business we just want to get out into the woods put on some robes you know burn a couple of iges in front of the owl have a good time probably get drunk a lot what's with the robes why do they do weird creepy why do
they put on a mask and the robe and the and do the plays and the the owl with the and then sacrificing I don't know whatever why do you have a giant owl I mean what why do you do that what is but what is that in human nature CU I don't think the rich people are different than uh not rich people what what is it about wealth and power that brings that out of people well part of it is the ritual aspect of it and yeah that clearly is a ritual rituals are it's pretty
simple rituals are just a series of actions performed in a precise sequence to produce an effect that describes a lot of things it describes plays Symphonies every movie you've ever seen a movie is a ritual it is a series of actions carried out in a precise sequence to produce an effect with an added soundtrack to queue you to what emotions you're supposed to be feeling it's a great idea so the rich people should just go to a movie or maybe just go to a Taylor Swift concert like why why do you have to well why
the all part of it is to create this kind of sense I suppose of of group solidarity you know you're you're all going to appear and also a way of sort of transcending yourself in a way you know when you put on the robe it's like putting on a uniform you are in some way a different or more important person it's a ritual okay the the key ritual at bohomian Grove is a thing called The Cremation of care and cremation and that's what it's supposed to it's it's a we're going to put all of our
you know we're rich important people we have to make all of these critical decisions life is so hard so we're going to go out here in the woods and we're going to kick back and we're all going to gather around the lake and and then we're going to carry you know it it it's it's wicker it's not a real person and how would you know and then we're gonna and we're GNA this is The Cremation of our care but it's a ritual which is meant to produce a sense of solidarity and relief among those people
who were there the question comes down with the rituals is how seriously do you take them how how important is this to to the people who carry them out and the interesting answer to that is that for some people it's you know for some people it's just boring I mean there probably people standing around the owl who think this is ridiculous and can't wait for it to get over with there are the people who are kind of excited about it to get caught up into it but other people can take it very seriously it's all
the matter of the intention that you have about what the ritual means and I don't mean to suggest by that that there's anything necessarily Sinister about what's going on but it it it it is a it is clearly a ritual carried out for some kind of group reinforcing purpose and you're absolutely right you don't have to do it that way that's not I mean I've gone to summer camps and we never carried out Mox sacrifices in front of an owl all right you know we did all those other things um we didn't even have any
robes either so it goes beyond merely a a rich guy summer camp although that's an aspect of it but it also I think often obscures that focusing on Bohemian Grove at the getaway of the club ignores that the club is around all the time that's what's at the center of this it is the club and its members so despite all the talk about no no weaving spiders coming around here what are the other features of the summer meeting are things called Lakeside talks uh this often people are invited to go there and and one of
the people who was invited I think around 1968 was Richard Nixon who was making his political comeback and he was invited to give a talk where very important people are listening and Nixon in his memo realized what was going on he was being auditioned as to whether or not he was going to be right he recognized that that was really the beginning of his second presidential campaign he was being vetted so one of the main theories call it a conspiracy theory or not about the Bohemian Club and the Gatherings is that people of wealth and
influence gathered together and whether or not it's part of the agenda or not inevitably you're going to talk about things of interest but to me the mere fact that you invite people in political leaders and to give Lakeside talks means that there there are weaving spiders which are going on and it is a perfect private venue to vet people for political office I mean yeah where else are you going to do it if you're interested in vetting if you're interesting in powerful people selecting well see here's the question are these guys actually picking who's going
to be president is that the decision decision which is being made or are they just deciding what horses they're going to back right I think the ladder is the simpler version of it but it doesn't mean it's the other way around but these are the kinds of you know I mean Nixon was you know there was the whole 1960 thing so he's he's the new Nixon remember this and this this is where the new Nixon uh apparently made a good impression on the right people because he did indeed get the Republican nomination and he did
indeed become president well there could also be a much more innocent explanation of really it's powerful people getting together and having conversations and through that conversation influencing each other's view of the world and and just having a legitimate discussion of policies why wouldn't they I mean why would you assume that people are not going to do that it's the owl thing with the with the robes like what why the owl and why the robes um which is why it becomes really compelling when guys like Alex Jones uh forgive me but I have not watched his
documentary I probably should at some point about the Bohemian Grove where he claims that there is uh uh Satanist human sacrifice of I think children um and I think that's quite a popular conspiracy theory or is lost popularity it kind of like transformed itself into the qanon set of conspiracy theories but I mean can you speak to that conspiracy let's put it this way the general public rich people are inherently suspicious yeah okay let let's put it that way uh first of all they've got all that money and and and exactly how did one obtain
it and uh I do not of necessity adhere to the view that behind her great Fortune there is a great crime but there often are you know there there are ways in which it's aquar but I think it's one of the things I think that can happen is particularly when when people acquire a huge amount of money and I won't name any names but let's say there are people who perhaps in the tech sphere Who coming from no particular background of wealth suddenly find themselves with $600 billion well what this is the question you would
have to ask yourself why me because you're one of the rare tiny group of human beings who will ever have that kind of wealth in your hands even if you are a convinced atheist I think at some point you have to begin to suspect that the cosmic muffin Providence whatever it is put this money in your hands to do what achieve great things just think of all the stuff so you're going to start a foundation and you're going to start backing all the things that you you like this is I think there's an element of
ego that comes in with it as well and again it may not be so much what the rich person with a huge amount of money at their disposal and a lot of fuzzy ideas about what to do with it can be influenced by others it's always that question as to who's actually manipulating these events what's what's going on in that regard in some way they they can be a very useful sucker you know find somebody with a lot of money and get them to finance the things that you want them to do the Bohemian Club
is I don't think in of itself inherently evil or Sinister but it means that there are lots of different people in it who have different agendas it goes back to what I said about how somebody feels about The Cremation of care ritual this is either just a waste of time it's just some sort of silly thing that we're doing or it is something of great importance perhaps even mystical or religious importance because that's ostensibly what it's pretending to be it's always this question is to what degree you begin to play and the play becomes serious
that tends to happen a lot for
