there are foundational critical issues involved that I think the conservatives get and understand and and I think leftwing more left-wing Catholics I think they don't get it I think they don't under I think my biggest problem with Progressive and I talked about this before you know oh don't get me started on Progressive Catholics Progressive Catholics don't understand that culturally speaking we are in deep kimchi we are in deep doooo our culture is toxic and spiritual dead if almost completely so and it seems to me that the liberal wing of the church doesn't understand this and
so Conservative Catholics understand we need to stand against this I mean Simone VI not Catholic but she called it the apparatus Paul Kings North calls it the machine Hano on bothar called it the system okay and and various authors have different names for it but there is this awareness of the Leviathan of modern culture which is toxic to the faith and let's I know I'm dominating this conversation I'll shut up in a second but you know if you want to see the truth of what I'm saying look at the fact that it's not just Catholicism
across the board religion has declined in Western cultures as Western culture gets more and more secular more and more left-wing more and more liberal the less and less and less religious it is and you can look at whether you're talking Jew Muslim Hindu Christian whatever two generations in the the grandchildren of those original immigrants are no longer practicing their faith and I don't care what religion you're talking about there is an acidic corrosive quality to Liberal modernity that has harmed almost every religion that enters into western civilization and when Western Civilization gets exported what do
we export we export sexual liberation pornography drugs fentanyl whatever this is what we export sweat shops okay this is toxic and it seems to me liberal Catholics might be superficially correct on some issues like we need to care for the poor but they don't get the crisis they don't get the metaphysical crisis the existential lack of meaning to anything and the conservatives therefore get this and understand which is why they say lurgy matters yeah the vertical dimension of existence matters help me understand uh help us understand you know in reaction to this you've got people
on both sides eh and this is a thing I keep coming back to because I'm trying to figure it out myself you've got the people who do just seem like very angry who might tend to be in the traditional Camp though there are angry people everywhere and then you've got the kind of I don't know are they still the lefties out there Lefty Catholics do they still exist except for Catholic Worker houses say I don't meet them yeah you know they're out there yeah the thing is once again average Catholics whatever however you want to
Define that let's say Catholics who uh are not in any way employed by the church and are not theologians or academics they're they're just devout Catholics who go about their jobs and their families and attend Mass somewhat of a regular basis that's an average Catholic I think I don't think that kind of Catholic fully understands the extent to which the Catholic intelligencia represented by the Catholic theological say and philosophical Guild in the academic world at the forom and the Marquett and the georget towns and the Notre Dames of the world I don't think the average
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