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the road with Club sh Shay I am your host Shannon sharp I'm also the proprietor of Club sh Shay the guy that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of the most influential and well-respected artists of his generation he's loved by millions worldwide your favorite rappers favorite Rapper he's a hip-hop A-list a Grammy award winner golden multiplatinum songwriter record producer B businessman humanitarian father UK born ATL raised a Bonafide Superstar 21 Savage how was that intro you like that intro did I leave out anything I I mean I got got extra time
I can add some more I ain't never heard no intro like that I like that I appreciate that appreciate that you know anytime you stop by convers have a have a conversation with A on Club shasa I got you a little drink this this is me right here and uh cuz I want to toast the album bro uh that's you right there American Dreams yeah yeah it's good but I don't drink you don't drink at all you just did that for me I appreciate that bro good looking did that for you draftking sports book an
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lot about being in London I remember like SM things but not Like a lot like a little smile like going to my grandma house right being with my mama uh I remember like going to the stoes like across the street and then like on my mama side of town it's like this [ __ ] called a High Street okay and it's like a street just full of stoves I remember like walking over there but I remember more like from when we went back and visited okay type cuz we went back once to go visit when
I was a Little older so I remember that more than I remember like stuff while I was there like when I was younger when you did you have very many friends do you remember remember friends when you were growing up you say you left at six or seven so did you have very many friends I just had family like cousins like a lot of cousins yeah so I ain't really need no friends so your family your your mom mov you here of all the places in the US y ATL you think I don't know I
ain't never asked that you never you never asked me like Mom not New York not Chicago not La not Detroit Atlanta I ain't never asked that oh God do you think about how different your life might have been had you gone to one of those places or Chicago or New York or Detroit or someplace other than the east side of Atlanta Dam N I ain't never thought about That oh God you just so you just Happ like okay so you get here you get settled in so obviously you're in a New London is very very
so is London I'm assuming London is very different than Atlanta it is but it ain't though really to me because it's like it it look different but it's the same [ __ ] okay you see what I'm saying it's like I like when I came over here like I had family too okay you see what I'm saying so you just around Family oh so your mom so you you had relatives in Atlanta like my mama friends they moved with us so all the people that I grew up with oh all move okay so it wasn't
like you was just like move into a by yourself like just you and your mom you had a large contingent with you yeah yeah oh so did that make the transition a lot easier I ain't know about no transition I'm just a child I'm just with my mama you feel what I'm saying so so how how Soon did you get acclimated and how soon did you make friends once you got to [Music] Atlanta like quick like it was this this boy named skinny mhm he had got killed though like a couple years ago wow but
that was like the first person I met that like ended up being like my best friend okay like growing up they used to stay like we stayed in the upstairs apartment he stayed directly under us okay and his mama like we was bad as Hell cuz it was six of us well back then it was like four of us okay so we used to be jumping up and down running around and he was the youngest but his siblings was like way older than him okay and like so they house was quiet they got plastic on
their couch all that so like when we used to make noise his mama would grab a broom and hit the hit the roof so we ended up getting cool H his mama and my mama ended up getting real cool okay and I used to like stay at his House used to stay at my house like I still talk to his mom all the time wow yeah your your family your background y think of your really your mom was from Dominic your father is uh from Dominica Dominica yeah oh okay not not Dominican Republic Dominica yeah
and so how much of the tradition from when you came to from London did you guys bring with you so where did you matriculate into East Atlanta rather rather rather seamlessly like because you say you got A big you got six like four four boys and no it's three boys and three girls three girls three boys okay and your mom yeah and then my little sister them Daddy he Jamaican okay and what you mean like like foodwise yeah as far as my mom a cook okay for sure yeah so how soon did you start eating
some of you know cuz they get they got them oxtail they got them some mother pork chops mother chicken how soon will you started eating that Opposed to what you were accustomed to eating I think like that came with like like making friends more like when I used to go spend the night at my friend's house like growing up I ain't never I was allowed to eat pork okay okay you know what I'm saying like other stuff like when I go to my friend's house spend the night as a like when I was younger I
eat whatever they cook but I ain't start really like just picking what I want to eat till I was a little Older you feel what I'm saying so when you went back home you like Mom my friends they cook this her M their mom cooked this you think you might be able to cook that did you tell your mom that n hell no I ain't telling my mama no [ __ ] like that hell no she went you righty to hear that I know she was trying to I ain't even going to try it right
did did your mom share with you that you guys were Leaving London coming to the US or did you just guys just up and leave did you know you were leaving I don't really remember like I just remember it's like so long ago right so I be trying to really think about the story but I'm I'm sure my mama told me where we was going for sure cuz I was six right but I I just don't remember like that conversation but I know it had to happen right so do you remember you Just remember getting
on the plane didn't have no idea where you was going you just know you were leaving London yeah right cuz I think at first it wasn't a stay thing oh okay she was just coming to visit right okay I think we was coming to visit M but I don't want to [ __ ] the story up neither cuz my mama know the story you know what I'm saying I think it was like Let's see we want to move here but we F to go see if we don't like it we going To go back type
[ __ ] okay and then we just stayed right so clearly she liked it yeah what about you did you like it or you was just going along with the flow you really didn't have a choice in the matter cuz you five or six years of baby so if you didn't like it you was stuck anyway you going to just adapt I liked it though okay I liked it like it's hot it ain't cold all the time like Ling I remember like playing outside like doing the same [ __ ] that I used to Do
like when I used to go like to my grandma house on my daddy side like we playing the neighborhood go like it was the same [ __ ] right so what was it like I mean cuz all of a sudden they got these these new this new family comes in and I'm pretty sure you probably had an accent yeah yeah yeah so yeah okay so now you on the east side of Atlanta yeah you got an accent how how receptive were the kids to you they used to te I got in a fight on the
first day of school oh God from the jump yeah they was used to tease me okay like I went to dunell Elementary that was the first elementary school I went to okay so we get to the I get on the bus or whatever they start talking to me so they making fun of me on the way to school okay so we get on the bus to go home they making fun of me on the way home okay so we get off the bus like one of the one of the older dudes like his little brother
was the main one so the older brother was like Like um said something like basically like [ __ ] fight him so we get off the bus I beat him up so the girls all the girls they run and tell my mama okay at the door so I your sisters kids in the neighborhood in the neighborhood okay so they run they tell my mama cuz they start I I really was kicking a lot they started calling me Taekwondo kid my M it's a true story on my mom okay so so I they um they run
to tell my mom so I I'm trying to drag my Feet to get home now so I walked to the door she grabbed me by my ear pull me in the house cuz the girls were still there right telling her the story when I got there so she I just remember her grabbing me by my ear and then like throwing me in the house like type [ __ ] and then that was it I ain't get punishment you Ain get no punishment no she didn't ask you what started it uhuh so you so not from
my memory you feel what I'm saying she probably did though But from what I can remember I just remember getting pulled you know you only remember Parts you remember like I just remember the ear like so what do you think was the biggest obviously you're very young so you haven't experienced a whole lot it's not like you're coming here you're 13 or 14 so you haven't had a whole lot of uh uh you're five or six years of age I think you're seven at this time yeah so is there big culture shock do you notice
Anything different about being in London as opposed to being in East Atlanta the most [ __ ] that I ever like that I used to like what I remember changing was the size of everything thing okay like I remember like in London like our bathrooms would be like this big right here you feel what I'm saying then I remember like we was still we was in the hood in on the east side too right but it was just like a size different like like at my grandma House in London I could touch both sides of
her house like this wow you feel what I'm saying but over here it's like more space I remember that and I remember getting in the car to go everywhere right in London we used to take the bus and the train like everywhere I remember like we always was in the car when we got here so you had an accent I'm assuming where so where did you fall into ranking as far as your siblings I'm the oldest you're the oldest yeah okay So I'm a you so you man so if you're seven that means and you
got three brothers and three sisters that means man you got some babies you got some they was three like cuz it's a it's a three years age gap between me and my little sister okay so if I was seven she was probably like three turnning four right and then my love brother was still a baby baby right and then the other three was born in America okay feel what I'm saying right right so did you s feel A sense of responsibility because you are the oldest you you I mean even though you a child you
like you're the oldest male and so do you feel some type of responsibility that you needed to like okay I need to be the man of the house even though I'm only seven years old at the time I think so yeah for sure yeah like I was naturally like a protector type [ __ ] yeah for yeah so what did your mom what did your mom think about that so the type of Relationship because like you said you're the oldest your mom is in a new in a new place and granted there a a community
that came with you but you the protector because you like okay I got to look after my mom I got to look after my brother my sister did did your mom tell you anything about that or you just instinctively took that on I think it was just like instinct for the most part M I feel like I feel like it's just in my personality too like just like take Care of everything I don't know why I'm like that but I think just naturally like I developed that cuz like my whole life I've been like that
like since I was old enough to like get out and do what I need to do right I always like took care of my mama and my siblings and [ __ ] right yeah do you feel that so was your when you were in London do you remember much about your dad being around yeah I remember my daddy used to come get me like every weekend Mhm MH I used to be over there cuz that's like where a majority of like my cousins was at right on my on my mama's side I only got like
like three four cousins okay but on my daddy's side it's like 30 of them right so that's like like my oldest cousin Teran he in the wheelchair okay I remember like following behind him a lot right feel what I'm saying so that's my dad side right so you so in other words you really love spending time with your Dad's side of the family because that's where all the cousins were that's where you got an opportunity to run and play and just have a good time it was just deeper but my mama side too cuz like
my cousins on my mama side was bad as hell too you see what I'm saying but it just was a lot of us right like it was just me chirone and Jerome right we was the only boys on my mama's side on my daddy's side it was more but [ __ ] it's just different side well see if it's Only three of y'all the trouble is only going three places so it's you you or you when your dad side it's about 30 of y'all so you can blame a whole bunch of people oh God so
growing up in the east side on that side of town rappers Gucci Man future OJ the juice man Rich hyuan Childish Gambino did you did you know any of those guys when you were growing up you had no idea about these I seen Gucci Before okay um yeah I seen Gucci before for sure I seen him at Church's Chicken before like when I was real young right right no Miss wless I seen him at Miss Miss W okay yeah yeah Zone I mean the East Side that's zone six there's a lot going on yeah east
side of Atlanta there's drugs there's a lot of killings did so what did your mom did your mom try and shield you like son you can't be out this time of night so what what did she tell you About the area that you that you guys were going to call home now I don't I used to be outside so I don't remember like her just like the only time it'll be a problem is if I got in trouble in school right but other than that like I wouldn't like one of them when the street light
come on kids like right my mom used to let me figure it out cuz in London it's the same [ __ ] it's it's it's down there worse right Cuz it's like concrete everywhere you see what I'm saying alley is it's the inner city so in London I used to be outside from what I well that was when we went back though right like from before then I don't remember being outside that much but so like no she just used to let me like let you figure it out figure it out then I used to
be with skinny okay but his real name Aaron okay I used to be with him and he was older than me so he was like my big Brother right and like so as long as I was with him she would give me a little more freedom to do [ __ ] like as long as he watching over you you good did you always gravitate towards older guys yeah I always hung with like people older than me for sure because you felt you was more mature than guy than than young guys your age yeah for sure
cuz I was older I I had to be I'm the oldest right so you naturally like a little more mature than you have to be cuz if you're Not you're going to get in trouble right so how was the struggle when your mom moving here obviously in a different in a different country obviously times were diff difficult for you guys did you realize how difficult times were for your mom and your family yeah hell yeah like I remember when we first moved um you be smoking cigars on here don't you you go hey take off
all right this your just your joint let's go ahead but I remember like um when we first Moved over here like before we moved to the neighborhood where I went to elementary school from okay we moved to another neighborhood on the east side and I remember like my mama and her [ __ ] well her man at time they used to sleep on the bottom bu all us used to sleep on the top bu we used to share like we Shar apartment with one of friends so it was a two bedro okay I we didn't
got evicted before I remember we coming home and our stuff was outside In front of the house right like growing up like um I ain't never had my own bedroom till I was probably like 15 years old or something M like I we all sh the room like for probably from like first grade till like sixth grade we I it was they had a room my mom and her man had a room and me and all my siblings had one room in a two- bedroom apartment then like I don't know what happened they got a
little motion and then we moved in the same Apartments but we used to call it cross the bridge it's like the other side of the neighborhood right and we had got a three bedroom so okay the boys had their own room and the girl girls had their own room and then I met my other big brother when I moved over there to vars right they stayed under us they Mama used to do the same thing oh man oh God get the broom and bang the roof oh God right yeah but for sure it was a
struggle cuz like she my mama couldn't Get no job or no driver's license she couldn't get food stamps she couldn't do none of that [ __ ] right so you know it's a struggle right so she's basically working any job that she can get maybe you know maybe cleaning floors maybe in the kitchen or doing things of that nature trying to make ends meet to put food on the table and a roof over the head for the kids the one job I remember her having she I don't think she never like did like no cleaning
floors type [ __ ] but the one job I remember her having was like a daycare and they used to pay them under the table I remember hearing them conversations though like being nosy cuz I ain't even supposed to know that as a child but I remember hearing them talk about it like right and she um she used to work at all of them used to work at a day care her her man and then the other families that I told you move with us they used to work there too and I they used to
pay them Undery the table like cash and [ __ ] that's the only job that I remember though when you came home from school one day and you saw your family belongings outside did the K how did that make you feel did the kids make fun of you did you realize what was going on when you saw all of your belongings on the outside yeah cuz I didn't seen it happen before and I remember like we used to steal people [ __ ] like cuz I didn't seen Other people evicted right seen they stuff outside
and like all the kids the badass kids will be in the neighborhood walking around see some [ __ ] start going through that [ __ ] okay so I just remember instantly thinking like nobody better not touch my [ __ ] that's like the first thought and I remember standing but I remember like I didn't really care about it that much cuz they put our [ __ ] out but they we instantly moved to a bigger apartment Right so it kind of was like it wasn't like we just our [ __ ] was just out
there and we trying to figure out what I'm saying like I remember us moving to a bigger apartment like instantly okay type [ __ ] so what was what was a typical meal in the household oh we had food you had good you not like steaking [ __ ] though Ramen hot dogs yeah yeah like that okay like we had the regular you know but not like I don't I don't remember no time like Well just was nothing to eat in the house it's going to be some bread we used to make like condensed milk
sandwiches like then was like ice grugg meal right like you take the you get the bread and the condensed milk and then you put it in like the little toaster type [ __ ] and you put it together that [ __ ] be good as [ __ ] oh God you eat one of them now hell yeah I will oh God but like you know hot dogs and noodles my mom used to make noodle Stir fry right ramen noodles right um curry chicken jerk chicken all that type of [ __ ] did you you being
the oldest did you learn how to cook could you cook for sure because I'm I'm assuming like a lot of times your mom probably was working and you had to take care of your brothers and sister so it was left up to you to probably cook the ramen to warm the food up so they can eat when you got home from school not cook though like the most my mama would Make me do is like unthought of food to meat like take the meat out I used to get my eyes wed if I forget to
take the meat out right and put cuz she don't play about the lemon like don't just sit in the water put lemon juice in the water when you sit it in the water so sometimes I take the meat out and just sit it in the water without no lemon get in trouble okay but she ain't never just make me cook but we used to make our own little food that we wanted like so if my Little brother was hungry and they wanted like a pack of noodles I make them some noodles or some [ __
] right yeah um obviously we talked a lot about your mom what what's the relationship like with your dad me and my daddy in like a weird place cuz he got his side of how he look at it I got my side of how I look at it like like I I kind of understand like okay if your child move to another Country it's kind of hard type [ __ ] but from a child point of view all I can do is go off the emotion that I felt as a child like I don't I
can't I can't tell you how I would feel about it as an adult right because the the hurt come from when I was a child you feel what I'm saying so it's like it's like me me whooping you as a child and then expecting you to receive the pain as an adult like hell no I I know how it felt when it happened right I know I felt Abandoned that's how I felt I felt like I used to see like other kids in the neighborhood well not in the neighborhood but remember the family that I
told you that move with us yes I had a friend well he likeed my cousin basically raim he was in the same predicament like he was in another country with his mama was with another man now a stepdaddy and his daddy used to come visit him all the time buy him [ __ ] so I used to be kind Of jealous of of what he had going on right and so that's that's where a lot of the disappointment came from with my daddy but my daddy was a good daddy to my siblings over there all
right like my little brother who died my little brother got killed right on my dadd side right they was best friends you feel what I'm saying I got twin little sisters and I got another little brother they all love my daddy you see what so I can't just say you no bad daddy but with Me I feel like you didn't do what you were supposed to do the relationship that they have with him is not the relationship you have with him facts right because you saw you said the family that moved with you you saw
his mom even though she was in a foreign country and she had ended up having another man his dad still came over and would see him and buy him things and did you explain that to your father saying look uh rockim dad he his Mom is with someone else and he found it time to come over here and see him and buy him things and spend time with him did you convey that to him not as a child not as a okay but like my little brother died in 2020 Okay and like that was me
and my daddy first time talking in like 15 20 years type [ __ ] Savage I mean you you didn't you didn't reach out when like at any at any point in time before that 15 years was up did you not reach out and try to have a Conversation with your father cuz like when I turned 21 I got shot okay and my mama came in the in the like while I was in the ICU she brought the phone well I don't know if I was in ic I don't know where I was at but
it was like fresh it was right after I got to to the hospital okay and um my best friend had just died like in the incident mhm so like I just remember being like mad I was more mad than sad So she tried to hand me the phone but I remember telling my daddy like um cuz my mama and her my like my SI four of my siblings got the same Daddy I got my own Daddy and then my little youngest sister got her own Daddy okay so my mom was moved out here when she
came out here the father of my four younger siblings he came like a little later okay and we all was together okay so when they had broke up how I took it Was like I you ain't my daddy I got to figure my own life out like I can't be up under your roof no more cuz my mama left right so I left so I remember communicating like to my daddy like your biological father yeah like like I'm in the street at this time but I'm telling him like I figure it out like I don't
expect you to just be able to just put me up in a apartment and just pay my rent every month like but I'm like can you contribute like a100 or $200 and I'mma figure the rest out I'm probably like 16 17 at this time this like years before I got shot okay I remember communicating him like can you help a little bit like my mama ain't got you on child support you don't really send no money like that and it ain't no disrespect like cuz I he went in like he be taking [ __ ]
like me telling my story is like trying to down him but this is my truth this is what I remember you feel what I'm saying right like from What I remember he wasn't really sending no money to my mama and my mama wasn't just pressing him for no money cuz she had a man so you see what I'm saying so I remember communicating that and I remember like it not coming through so now I got to go extra harder in the lane that I'm in right as a 16 17 year old you feel what I'm
saying cuz I got for myself down there I got to feed myself like I'm staying with friend to friend to friend you feel what I'm Saying right so I remember feeling let down by that on top of all the other times that I was let down when I was young and I wanted shoes or a phone or this or that a new video game you feel what I'm saying so at a certain point I remember like I got old enough to where it was like all right I I don't even care to talk so that's
how that buildup came of me not talking to him all them years you feel what I'm saying right so in 2020 your brother Gets loses his life right yeah at that point in time did you think about putting everything else aside and try to reestablish a relationship with the father I did and we got on the phone and he started doing some things that rub me the wrong way like like just asking me for [ __ ] like too early and like so at this point in time you had already become what you become yeah
in 2020 I'm 21 Savage right You feel what I'm saying yeah yeah but I kind of like fell back and then like you know like when I do interviews these questions come up and I just I'm truthful so right I think that might have rubbed him the wrong way you feel what I'm saying type [ __ ] oh okay so you went back your parents come you come over here and you go back so how long were you over here before you went back for a month two months three Months we came out here I
was seven six I was six turning seven we went back the summer of sixth grade going into seventh grade so however old you is okay so probably 11 12 yeah so probably like what five years we was over here five years cuz I know I know whatever it was it was right before the Visa expired we went back and then renewed it okay type [ __ ] you go over there with it did you remember anything about London because you had now you had Spent just as much time in America as you had London because
remember you five or six when you left you stay five six seven years here and you go back did did it seem like home or did it seem unfamiliar to you it seemed like home like even like like even when I just went back for the first time in what I don't know how many years that is if I the last time I went with when I when I was 12 and I just went last year When I was 30 that's what 18 years yes I still remember how to get to my grandma house okay
like cuz like it's a parking lot and you got to walk through to get to her house like I I still remember how to walk to her house I still remember how to walk to the store so it's like I remember I don't remember everything but I remember like right key like major parts type [ __ ] once you get once you get over there did you yearn to come back like yeah I like London but the US Is my home now when I was young when we went back to visit yeah um yeah I
think I was ready to go home not like just in a rush but it was like all right now I miss my other friends right I missed y'all we didn't k ready to go back yeah so School how were you in school what type of student were you in school I was an excellent student up until a certain grade okay like I feel like like um we was just talking about This last night we was playing the game and they was like um spell super califragilistic ESP spous and it was crazy cuz I won the
spelling be in fifth grade spelling that same word wow and I won the math competition that same year like okay so I used to get all A's but like up until a certain point I feel like when I when I found out like really just realize like I no matter how good I do in school I can't go to college because I'm an immigrant I Can't get a job I can't get no driver's license I feel like once that started to kick in I kind of just gave up like okay and just stopped caring I
used to go to school fall asleep in class like just do all types of [ __ ] right so once you realize like man as smart as I am math won the math competition won the spelling B I can only advance so far in school now I might need to try a different path yeah so you go on this so at school so How so how were the other kids towards you because you're smart normally kids they pick on kids that are smart but I was the cool kid oh you the cool smart kid yeah
okay cuz I used to do bad stuff too I just had I just had good grade but I still used to skip fight right like do all the little mischievous things kid do in school but I I was just smart I'm still smart like did you get bullied in school no I ain't really get Bullied I had issues with people right not just like you ain't F to just put my head in the toilet or take my lunch money right so that's what it was I mean the older kids trying to take advantage of you
yeah and you like nobody never tried to do that to me I'm just saying like I'm not one of them kid I was never one of them kids right you ain't let nothing slide no my mama ain't even F to go for that right like I remember like getting tried in the neighborhood right My mom and them coming outside to fight with us what where your mom at facts Mom put it down like that I remember one time like it was this lady and my little sister used to be real cool with this lady daughter
right but I was just known is the bad kid in the neighborhood right so somebody spraying it spray painted [ __ ] you all over her car she had like Lexus the oh man the little bubble Lex right but it was like it wasn't like the it was just like a regular little Lex Okay so she come straight to my door my mama ain't home though banging on the door where your bad ass at I know you did this [ __ ] so she come to the door so my auntie was down the street I
guess my little sister ran and told my auntie so my auntie come down my auntie come down by this time they didn't call my Momma I remember my mama just smashed through the neighborhood in her minivan I remember I had some scissors I hadn't broke the scissors so it was just one Side of the scissor like this so my mama pull up swerving she part right in front of the lady building so the lady out there um the lady standing like on the car like with her back on the car my mama jump out the
truck [ __ ] she done mush the lady oh God but the lady didn't want to fight so my mama didn't really just mash the gas on her type [ __ ] oh God and me and my little brothers you know we deep it's all of us then we got friends right like and our Friends downn there like our family like we like this the hood we down there like this our side right so they all out there like ready like they was going to beat her up but she she she bit her tongue and
on my mom I really didn't do the [ __ ] right it really wasn't me who spray pained her car right that's how you know reputation is your reputation preceded you because you used to get in stuff and they just automatically soon as some some is went down Savage did it Oh God that [ __ ] was crazy and I was innocent as a [ __ ] so you go to school you end up getting kicked out of school because you brought a firearm to school yeah what made you feel you need what made you
feel like you needed to bring that firearm I think I was just bad like we were it was like some issues where a group of people from like another neighborhood that we didn't really get Along with was saying like they were supposed to be trying to fight us and they was deep it want like five six of us cuz all my friends are older so they in high school right you see what I'm saying okay like the people that I hang with that's like I feel like it's like me it's only a few it was
like three of us and then like I was just being bad really I didn't really need to bring no gun right where you get where you get the strap From like this dude in my neighborhood had did something and he hid it somewhere and I knew where he h it at so so I sleep stole it right yeah and so someone tell how did they find out that you had the piece on you in school cuz when I got to school it was a ISS day so I started thinking like d I don't I don't
want to just be had this [ __ ] home school suspension yeah I ain't want to just have it on me all Day right so I'm like let me hide it and it was this little [ __ ] ass look like he ain't even really I don't even really [ __ ] with him he just happen to be there while I'm Hing and [ __ ] oh man I ain't even thinking about this [ __ ] at the time I didn't put this [ __ ] up under some leaves and some bushes and [ __
] so I guess they see us on the camera but on the camera they can't really tell who doing what they just see me and him right there doing Something I don't know how it happened though but they found it they end up finding it so they come get me out of ISS with the it was the school officer his name was Valentino or valencio some [ __ ] but he was a police officer but school police okay that come get me out of ISS they walk me into the um assistant principal office but they
know me like all the cuz you know like and kids this ain't for I'm not bragging about this but when you bad as hell in School you you have a assigned counselor type [ __ ] and normally your counselor is one of the assistant principles right type [ __ ] so all I didn't had been celed by all of them type [ __ ] so they come get me out of ISS they bring me in um in the office the [ __ ] who was there while I was hiding and [ __ ] he right
there in the office I'm like a [ __ ] he done dime you out I know it this about so they bring me in the office they like yeah what what was in the I'm like I Don't know what y'all talking about I don't know nothing I don't know I wasn't doing [ __ ] so I just sit there then I just every time I used to get in trouble I just get a attitude and get mad and so I don't got to an to [ __ ] I just like man bro stopped talking so
I stopped talking so they they like all right come on they bring me back the ISS so I'm like oh I'm straight so I'm seeing that ISS they start calling like you know that be like Buses Walkers Riders W so everybody start going so I get up off the rip like I'm I ride the bus right but they let I think either Walkers or Riders out first I get up and soon as the first one get up so I'm walking out ISS I'm walking out you know ISS and the trailers mhm so I'm walking down
the hill I see the school police he walking towards me he come get me he cuff me I'm like ah [ __ ] but all I was worried about was my momma it's like when you young and you get in Trouble you don't give a d about nothing else but what your momma I going say oh God they cuffed me up took me to um they tried to do some fake scar straight [ __ ] they took me to um the big jail the C County right um but like they used to like I don't
know how they do it now but back in the day they used to you in the big jail not like put you in the big jail but that like the juvenile facility was right there but they'll take your pictures and [ __ ] at the big jail right So when they bring us in I guess they told one of the inmates like start banging on the the window or some [ __ ] to scare us I'm like bro what the [ __ ] that didn't work no now big ass D what what you going to
bust through the door and do something to me on the so so now they baned you you cannot go to school in the Cal County correct no that a't that that I got on probation for that you got on probation for that One okay right the next year no this yeah this this eighth grade I'm doing good I'm still on probation playing football or whatever so I'm at the back of the bus with with all the cool kids okay we on the way to school these [ __ ] it was this song when we was
young called teabag that man these [ __ ] in the back they start beating on the window tabag that ho tabag that ho banging on the window so people start throwing [ __ ] cuz we had a Substitute bus driver oh man they start throwing paper at the bus driver I'm just back there I ain't really doing [ __ ] cuz I'm on probation so I'm chilling but I'm laughing and [ __ ] I think I was singing the song a little bit right man they come get us they treat us like we godamn did
some some serious [ __ ] they they come get everybody everybody who was in the back of the bus they put us in the library they had a like the it was some girls Who was like telling about what happened they got down I think some of the boys was like grabbing the girls type [ __ ] bringing the girls back there and [ __ ] girls was Sting on people laps and just bad [ __ ] right so they had some girls who started telling right like they got in trouble like if you don't
tell who was doing it we're gonna tell your parents that you've been being fast back there right so godamn I just remember they had we had like a u They used to call that [ __ ] like a hering A hering in the library they bringing all of us to the window they got girls lined up we got to put our face at the window like the hell they like yep they said him they put my face I ain't even did [ __ ] they like yep him so when that happened by me being on
probation already that's when they kiic me out of all the school [ __ ] for that incident so they lied on you hell yeah they lied on me man you sure I mean you Sure you had no you had no invol should have never been back there once they started doing all that ex should have got went to the front have got up and went to the front so they didn't really lie I was back there right I just wasn't doing all the the [ __ ] that they was doing I was in the mix
type [ __ ] did you have to go to juvenile detention for that that was just like some school [ __ ] cuz they like [ __ ] you on probation right you still don't know how to Act so they informed your mom that's when kick you out of the Cal County correct yeah so they tell your mom yeah what' your mom say I I I think that's the first time I really just got grounded like well you can't even leave the house but I still was leaving the house my mama know that [ __
] though she know that [ __ ] cuz yeah I got grounded cuz matter of fact on God so boom my mama she ain't with me by then I'm too Grown like right ain't no whooping so she I get home and [ __ ] she like you ain't leaving you can't go nowhere sit inside the house watch your little brothers and sisters type [ __ ] cuz at this time my little brother Ruru he was probably like two or some [ __ ] so I used to had the babysit but my little sister old enough
to watch him too right so it was this little boy in the neighborhood I ain't going to say I don't even remember his name anyway but he was like Younger than me so I'm outside we at the park the park like right behind our building so we I'm at the parking [ __ ] he walk up like bro I got some keys I found some keys to this lady car that live in the nest building so I grab the keys I take the keys I'm like what car it is he show me the car I'm
like all right all right so I don't supposed to be outside no so godamn I go get the car I crank it up I'm like oh [ __ ] have you ever driven a car before yeah my mama my Mom my mama [ __ ] man yeah oh God so so so I'm like oh [ __ ] this the real key so I jump out I jump out I I walk out I walk back to the park so you know how when you young you doing something bad you always need somebody with you to do
it too like you ain't going to just do it by yourself right so I forgot who it was it was somebody oh it was it was my partner I forget his name Terry he used to live across the bridge though he was spoiled though he Was the only child they lived in the townhouse okay so I used to kind of like be jealous of him but I used I used to [ __ ] with him too he used to have all the games unlimited snacks oh God so I went and got tear I got a
car I got a hot box that's what we call like a stolen car I got a box I got a box so I go get him we go get in the car so we driving around the neighborhood spinning likeing like doing burn not burning out But just like drifting right so I go par the car we jump out we go back to the park again we chilling probably like 30 minutes Go pass I'm like [ __ ] let's go ride let's go ride so godamn now I feel like I done mastered the car so now
I'm trying to do extra [ __ ] so I get in the car I reverse but we the car is parked directly in front of the people like building their apartment building right so when we pulling off we like trying to ease off and then hurry up and smash off So I put the car in reverse and I back out the parking spot so but he working the the gear right I'm just you just drive yeah so I'm thinking this [ __ ] put the car and Dy this still got in Reverse I didn't smashed
on the gas boom boom hit a tree man I'm like oh [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] I hurry up and park the car get out the car we take off run in the back cuz I ain't want to run this way cuz my building right here right so we run Behind they building and I run through the back way of my building and go go change my clothes type [ __ ] so I come back out the C County police out there so I walk up so they like uh who seen
where they went who seen where they went I'm like I seen them they had on white they ran that way they ran that way my [ __ ] ass little cousin and told his mama it was me oh man so the police don't know but my mama know right so now Godamn they he didn't talk but I think I I can't remember I got to call my mom and ask her like did she whoop me about that cuz I think she that's like she punched me about that like or something I remember I got in
big trouble for that and I just remember that being like a couple days after the school bus incident cuz that was like fresh like I really was supposed to be outside right you supposed to be inside you not only are you outside you doing some oh no That's how I got to go outside on God I told my mama I was taking my little brother to the park okay so my little brother was at the part with my little sister right that's how I got outside oh okay oh God so you were supposed to be
outside you just wasn't supposed to be no no hood [ __ ] oh god oh excuse me yeah and your brother R died you out my little cous little cin did yeah he told his mama that it was me and my his mama told my mom type [ __ ] but did the police Ever find out it was you no well you straight there Statue limitations up oh God sports did you play sports I played football but I was too small but I tried you tried but really I had to for probation okay like they
was like you got to be in as many extracurricular activities as possible to keep you from doing [ __ ] just being at home doing nothing right so I had to but then like at I only play one season Cuz at the end of the season my mom and them didn't have enough money to pay the dudes right so I only played one season I probably got on the field three times what position did you play wide receiver and cornerback okay had you stuck with it you think you'd have been pretty good yeah because I
ended up getting taller like as I got older right so probably yeah for sure but I stopped going to school in ninth grade oh you might have Been an NFL player facts but I don't think the average do the how much money do the average NFL player make do they make more than a rapper no yeah it all dep me I think I went the right route yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean let you a play quarterback now quarterback they make some bread yeah they make 40 50 Mill a year yeah but you doing better
than that too so you did the right thing yeah facts yeah you Ain't you don't got to take no hits yeah n y'all be bruised up yeah a't no [ __ ] going to be pushing me to the ground and all that so you go so the ninth grade that what that's the farthest you went in school school right yeah you dropped out so I got kicked out eighth grade you got kicked out eighth grade for the second semester of eighth grade what did you do to get kicked out the bus [ __ ] oh
so yeah but you had but I thought you could go if you went to another County Outside of the cab you were straight I still that's what we thought so we moved at the street to gwet County M and I had to go to Alternative School right in gwet County right and they make you well like that [ __ ] was just different bro like cuz when I went to Alternative School in the C County you know it's black kids it's still like it's still like regular right I got out there it was just nothing
but Mexicans but it was some black people too but this when I First learned about gangs and [ __ ] okay type [ __ ] so I went there for a semester then I went to South granette High School for like probably like a semester okay then they was trying to kick me out cuz I was smelling like weed in school falling asleep in class but this is about around the time where I'm telling you like I ain't I ain't really feel like [ __ ] was going to get me nowhere cuz I'm an immigrant
Right so I just stopped caring right so my mama just withdrew me type [ __ ] and she start like trying to homeschool me and [ __ ] and then that [ __ ] I don't know it just eventually I just I don't know what the hell happened but it just stopped you just kind of realize let man School ain't for me yeah oh God right yeah and so what so once you realize like School ain't for me what did so like what are you gonna do you got to do something [ __ ] Hustle
[ __ ] that's all you that's all I could do for real did you ever get your D GED no I'm F to get it though so when you when your okay your mom takes you out of school I got my G no I don't think I do your mom takes you out of school she's going to try to homeschool you you like if it this ain't for me what do you tell your mom mom School ain't for me hey I'm not going this home school and ain't working I'm going to get on this grind
or did you or did you Just like I just got to do what I got to do honestly my mom always just knew like cuz I used to be get in trouble for like having cars lined up outside the house and [ __ ] so like cars lined up outside the house yeah type [ __ ] you a general manager of the car dealership or something that's that's the only way that's supposed to happen like people outside waiting in the car and okay yeah so she I feel like she had an idea but I think
I was just too grown even though I Was young I was just like grown like I can't explain it it was like you much older than your age yeah like you can't tell me nothing cuz I already be gone for goddamn two three weeks at a time type [ __ ] so it's like if you tell me something I'm going just get the hell on right and go do it somewhere else so when did the affiliation with the gangs when did that come up out like I don't know I feel like when you From the
hood they just automatically like affiliate you with a game right just growing up in the area did you feel you I ain't never been initiated into no gang or no [ __ ] yeah so that's that's that's you're not a part of a gang and people just assume because you was doing devious you know stuff right stealing the cars and whatever else was going on they just automatically assumed you were part of the game right just from being from from A certain side of town and [ __ ] right yeah so did they say did
your mom them say anything to you like bro what you going to do with your life I think I think my mama used to like beg my daddy to like Step Up type [ __ ] more than like to me m like cuz I feel like she felt she probably felt like [ __ ] what else can he do for real right type [ __ ] and it wasn't like I was just stupid like I kind of knew what I was doing Type [ __ ] so I think she more used to like say that
[ __ ] to my daddy like come like get him or come be with him or but then again is like she probably was saying that but I wouldn't would I wouldn't have went for that though yeah I was about to say even if he had come if he had come to the states and tried to take you back were you going to go I younger yeah I probably would have like 16 17 right but by the time I was 20 but you Grown ass man now I mean he can't get you to go nowhere
right I had my son though right so it wasn't that wasn't the option no more right type [ __ ] mhm I had my son the same year I got shot so that was 2013 20 so you was 20 yeah take us back to that day do you remember anything about that day about the day you got shot and your friend got killed do you remember anything about that day was it a normal day did you wake up like ah This is this is a Tuesday this is a Wednesday I'm gon start my day I'm
gonna carry on what was about that day did anything feel different yeah it kind of some it ain't really feel different but when I look you know how you in the moment you don't it don't feel different right but you look back on it and it's like damn cuz that day was my birthday okay so like you turning 21 correct yeah okay it was my birthday his his mama birthday And his nephew birthday yall got the same birthday so I was trying to like book a hotel room so we could have like a kick back
and [ __ ] okay like for that weekend M and um he called me cuz I had like a couple cars and [ __ ] like but they were my not stolen cars like cars I paid for okay and in one of my cars I had speakers in the trunk like you know how people put speak Trump and one of his speakers went out In one of his cars so he needed one of mine and he was like [ __ ] I'm going just give you one of mine when I when I whenever I go
buy a new one I don't feel like going up there now so and he was like I want to see Kamar too my son right so I wasn't at the house I was with my other partner he ended up getting killed too his name one one I was with him he was like riding with me and [ __ ] we was trying to get the he was going to get the hotel room in his name Cuz I ain't got no ID I ain't got no license so I needed somebody to get the room and their
name so I was running with him and [ __ ] and Johnny is my friend who was with me that got killed okay he had went to my mama house cuz me and my mama me and my mama last baby daddy like my little sister daddy um we had all went in like we was paying rent on the house okay they was paying more than me but I was paying I was probably paying like 500 they was probably paying Like 600 or some [ __ ] and um so we was all staying together so he
had um cuz remember I told you like my mama and her other baby daddy broke up [ __ ] and she a have nowhere to go type [ __ ] so we finally back together in the house so Johnny had went to my mama house and he had went to see my mama went to see my son and he had got to speak out the car and [ __ ] okay but I remember like that whole day now that you said like I remember That whole day I kept telling myself like I got to pull
up on Johnny I got to pull up on Johnny type [ __ ] cuz he wanted something that I had and I wanted something that he had right so um after he seen my son and [ __ ] and that was his first time just going to see my son on his own like he ain't never did that before right type [ __ ] so after he went to go see my little boy and [ __ ] I had put up at his house and he was was like um he was like ride with me
somewhere right quick I got to handle some [ __ ] he was like I don't feel like going in my car though let's let's just ride in your car cuz I was in one of my little pluck plugs like like a hoopie type [ __ ] like a low-key car mhm so godamn the [ __ ] so crazy because like when we was in the car on the way to wherever he was trying to go to his grandma car and his grandma was on the Exact same street but where we was going was to the
the left and where his grandma was at was to the right but on the same street and she called like right before we turned on the street like we was at the light waiting to go left type [ __ ] so when I used to think back on it I used to be like damn like you know how that be like in life you you got a choice like which way you can go type [ __ ] and I used to be like Dam if he Would have went right he would have still been alive
typ [ __ ] so we make we made we ended up making a left or whatever we end up pulling up or whatever and like a [ __ ] just jumped in the back seat and just was like get it up type [ __ ] then a whole bunch of this [ __ ] start happening do you think was the setup cuz I mean you say this is this is a bucket this is the car that you know low key Don't nobody really know did did people know you had this car not people who knew
me cuz I was always like a super lowkey right like I got a I had a flashy car too right but didn't nobody know about this car for real I be thinking back on like a lot of [ __ ] cuz even like after that [ __ ] I used to be like damn I didn't de like a lot of [ __ ] to a lot of people type [ __ ] so I used to be like this [ __ ] Could have came from anywhere type [ __ ] so that day used to cross
my mind but I don't really know did you feel you let your guard down to allow somebody to get to jump on you like that not really not really cuz I was on point I think that's how I made it type [ __ ] like I was already looking back type [ __ ] did you know the guy I ain't know so he says give it up whatever you had on you like okay bro hey whatever I got here Take you didn't have it you you said I ain't got nothing bro I had some but
you told him you you told him you didn't have anything no I had something else for him oh you had not what he wanted right right right okay okay yeah type [ __ ] but he had something for me too right [ __ ] so he got to jump on you kind of not really though cuz they was really scared for real it was one or two it was two of Them it was two of them okay one of them jumped in the back seat okay one of them was standing up outside the car okay
type [ __ ] so the one who was sh standing outside the car he shot me off the rip right here okay cuz I'm turned like this so he like [ __ ] [ __ ] boom type [ __ ] okay then he take off running so now it's just me and Buddy in the back seat okay but my brother he um like I remember screaming to him type [ __ ] cuz me and Buddy start going back And forth like his arm was like over the seat and my arm was like over the seat
okay so I remember like but I was shot so I remember saying like like Johnny shoot him shoot him shoot him type [ __ ] and me and Buddy were just going back and forth and then he start buddy in the backseat started screaming like ah ah so you hit him yeah but I was hit up too right so when I remember like the gun Jam type [ __ ] so I had caught it back again and when I put my arm over the Seat he put put his gun on my arm and shot me
so my gun fell out my hand and I remember us fighting over my gun then it went off one more time boom and I got shot right here in my hand from holding the gun type [ __ ] then he got up and he tried to run and he collapsed type [ __ ] and then I remember um that's when I I had a iPhone in this was probably like the iPhone 3 or some [ __ ] ugly ass iPhone so God Dam now I Remember like trying to unlock the phone to call 911 and
like my blood kept drying up the screen type [ __ ] so I remember I got out the car but first that's how I knew Johnny was dead type [ __ ] cuz like after buddy got out the car and ran I remember I told Johnny like pull off bro pull off pull off and then the car wasn't moving but his his foot was on the gas but it was in park so the engine was just like up then it was like some movie [ __ ] the windshield Wipers was like but it wasn't raining
right and then you know the door like when you got the door open ding ding ding like the alarm that tell you close the door type [ __ ] so I jumped out the car I went and knocked on somebody door they come to the door so I went back to the car and godamn I unlocked my phone I I finally like I didn't even unlock it back then it was like slide for emergency car right so I ended up Sling It call like yeah I'm Shot they get the ass and all tight just dick
out ass questions like what the [ __ ] bro like I'm shot what what street man what the [ __ ] you mean what street who who I don't know the street I'm just shot right type [ __ ] so they like um I remember telling them like my my brother dead my brother dead type [ __ ] and then I remember laying the and I guess the [ __ ] who was driving them [ __ ] he came looking for the [ __ ] who was in the back seat I guess He couldn't find
a [ __ ] so goddamn they um he roll back past and I remember being on the phone cuz I thought they was going to ride back past to handle the business right so I scoop back type [ __ ] I was on the phone to lay like they rid back past type [ __ ] then I remember the police pulled up um I don't even think I told her I think I just put the phone like down type [ __ ] and just did like that then the police pull up so I get Out
the car cuz I'm a victim I'm like man this [ __ ] talking about put your hands up put your hands up let me see your hands I'm like bro I can only put I can only put this arm up cuz remember I told you he shot me in this arm so I put the arm up I'm like I'm shouting this arm I'm shouting this arm he like um sit on the curve and put both y hands behind your back I'm like man I'm shot in this arm I can't put it behind my back he
like put it behind your back so I think I just like mean this [ __ ] like that type [ __ ] then I sat right there for a minute then the ambulance pulled up and when the ambulance got there um I remember the lady it was a white lady I wanted to see her like I wonder like how she doing type [ __ ] but she she was in the U Back of the ambulance so they put me on the stretch and [ __ ] they cut my clothes was open put me on the
stretcher so she put me in the back and she was like um she was like um let's hurry up And get him to the hospital before the sergeant get here and he bleed to death type [ __ ] cuz I guess like when when you in critical condition or some [ __ ] like um well I don't even think I was in critical condition I think I was just bleeding a lot right I guess like they they objective is for the detective to hurry up and ask you questions just in case right type [ __
] so she was like hurry up so they put me in ambulance and we just went to the hospital how many Times did you get hit six and then no vital organs though no no vital organs so what do you think happened to you he got friendly fire my brother yeah the one that was in the car with you no I think the dude in the back seat shot him in the head oh okay like when it first happened right cuz he had his gun on him too right but he never shot right so that's
why when you saying Johnny shoot him he couldn't because he had already got hit yeah I think he got Hit like off the rip real type [ __ ] right yeah so what happened to the guy that was in the back that ended up collapsing did he live yeah he Liv he was paralyzed I don't know about now but that's what I heard you know how you hear [ __ ] in the street but you don't know right yeah he lived though from what I remember what I know yeah the guy did they ever find
the guy that shot you that was outside the car yeah they they they they I don't Know about I know they found two people but I didn't know what they looked it like right so I I couldn't tell like the police [ __ ] really it was dark type right so I think they ended up they got charged and then it got thrown out type [ __ ] you think about that do you think about that day what could have been what what could you have done different yeah hell yeah but I ain't even want
to really ride with him that day cuz I was really just trying to Chill it was my birthday right we had some [ __ ] like some drink and [ __ ] some looking [ __ ] we was going to get drunk so I was really just going over there to kick it with him right type [ __ ] so yeah I be thinking about that but the the main thing I think about is like like I heard his grandma on the phone telling him like I'm I'm ready cuz he pick her up from work
every day right and I just used to think like damn I wish he would have just went and got his Grandma instead type [ __ ] because he wouldn't got his grandma you wouldn't have been in the car you wouldn't have been there he wouldn't have been there and that day would have never happened facts yeah oh God you seen a lot of tragedy your uncle ended up getting killed you that was my real Uncle though but remember I told you like how we like made over here mhm yeah he got killed when I was
in third grade I remember um I was I was I think I was sleep but I was so bad I probably was up but I remember it was a school night and I remember um just hearing like B and I remember jumping up and I remember jumping up and looking at my window and then my mama came in the room and just started hugging me type [ __ ] start holding me but I was so young I think I knew it was gunshots but some was telling me it was fir crap right so I go
back to sleep and I remember um getting up the next Like a couple hours later like that was probably like 2: in the morning I had to get up probably like s for school right and I remember like um my mama was iron in my outfit for school and [ __ ] and the News was on and they was like um I think it was five of them that got killed that night it was like four four of five it might have been six it was like the dudes came they killed Big Boy which was
like my uncle they killed um swis shot and like another one of they Partners and like two maintenance men and then I remember like um my mama telling me or it was either my momma or my stepdaddy was like yeah they K big boy type [ __ ] but then when I got older you know how you replay [ __ ] back your head I was like he robbed the wrong person cuz I remember like all that week he had went and bought one of them New Tah the z72 trucks what the Z71 yeah the
the two yeah I know exactly what you talking about yeah that's the highend Yeah he had bought one of them he had um I remember walking down there cuz like when I was young they used to like give me like little daughters and [ __ ] and I used to like rap like do little like freyle three bars or some [ __ ] and they'll give me some dollars so I remember one time like that week I went down there and they was like all outside by the Z71 like they was on the truck chilling
on the truck smoking and [ __ ] I remember I seen like a big ass bag of Weed probably like 5 lbs or some [ __ ] wow just bags of weed on the like hood of the car and I remember um one of them one of them his name was Kevin he used to have a box Chevy on 23s with the Jordan logo going mhm I remember him like man put that [ __ ] up bro what the hell wrong with y'all put that [ __ ] up but I remember like I ain't never
seen him had that much weed I seen them smoke weed a million times they ain't never had that much weed so I feel like that's What happened but I don't know but I feel like that's what happened though hit somebody Stash House yeah the wrong [ __ ] and they came back cuz they chased him they he was in like it was some more Apartments connected to our apartments and it was a cut he got damn he got shot in the next Apartments he was running he saw him coming in the head once but he
still was alive and he ran all the way from them Apartments ran like through the cut cuz the cut is like right next To my building he came through the cut and ran all the way down to like to the end like where I Street it was a dead end on our street and he ran all the way to like where um my cousin raim stayed at and he ended up dying like collapsing on they front step type [ __ ] right but first birthday that wasn't the first time you had gotten shot was it
was that the first time you got shot no that was the second time the first time was like on some like bull [ __ ] though it was Just like a graze for real and want to just like know just you know what I'm saying like I ain't even go to the hospital right yeah was it was accident or was someone intentionally trying to it I think it was an accident okay yeah 21st birthday you lose your partner you almost lose your life you watched you've gotten grades before your your uncle who's not your biological
uncle but he was raised up with you so he you was consider him an uncle at what point In time Savage do you say enough of this I think like after I got shot cuz you got a kid you got a thinking now you got you got another life to be responsible for it ain't just you now for sure I remember thinking about that too like while I was sitting there I was like I remember I just kept mumbling like I can't go out like this can't go out like this can't go out like This
type [ __ ] and I was just thinking about my little boy type [ __ ] did you ever lose Consciousness not from what I remember [Music] right you've uh you've lost siblings Yeah you mentioned that uh I think it's your your father had a son that ended up getting stabbed to death correct yeah in London in my grandma neighborhood MH that's why I just shot My last video at yeah how does one that have experienced death so much how does one cope with it there one thing to know someone's going to die of old
age we got grandparents or we have someone over there a terminal illness okay that's one thing but to see someone lose their life so young to see a a parent bury a child when no one no parent should have to bury a child it's supposed to be the Other way the child Buri the parent how does one begin to cope or wrap their minds around death in that capacity I don't know I don't know how I do it cuz I didn't had times like why I Cry Sometimes type [ __ ] when I'm by myself
and [ __ ] but I don't know I think you just got to be built for this [ __ ] like you got to just be built for it like you learn how To like just like move forward in life and just accept certain [ __ ] but it's like still hurt though but I don't know like what it I don't know how I cope with it honestly I read what you said after your brother's death I took my anger out on you I wish I could take that is back yeah what do you mean
by that like like growing up like I ain't really we ain't really talk like that neither cuz I used to be like kind of Jealous of like the relationship that him and my daddy had M I used to feel like my little brother was the son he wanted and I was I was the son that he didn't want type [ __ ] so like when me and my my daddy relationship faded it's like me and my relationship were like that whole side of the family faded type [ __ ] but like right before he died
we had just started back talking okay so it like me saying that was like Dam I regretted all the Other all the years that we wasn't talking because I felt like you was like spoiled by my like you know what I'm saying like you was his favorite type [ __ ] like he ain't really [ __ ] with me he he wasn't there for me how he was there for you type [ __ ] right like I remember one time like um my daddy had came to visit this the only only time he ever came
to visit and he had to use like my mama told him like no my my mama baby my stepdaddy Told my mama like they ain't got to spend no money on no Hotel while they here they can come stay with us type [ __ ] yeah oh y'all barely had enough room for you guys but [ __ ] West Indians just like that yeah right okay we crime in this [ __ ] like oh God we going to crime in this [ __ ] so so they came and stayed with us and [ __ ]
and he had brought my little brother with him and I remember one day Goddamn he had then took um the van he had took us to city trans and [ __ ] and godamn he only bought my little brother [ __ ] he ain't buy me [ __ ] though type [ __ ] and then I remember um I think my mama and my stepdaddy got the arguing about that because he took too long with the car right and my stepdaddy had to go to work type [ __ ] so I remember just being like
I remember like being in the store and like I was like picking out [ __ ] and he Wasn't grabbing my [ __ ] that I was picking out but he was grabbing my little brother [ __ ] type [ __ ] and I remember like like being jealous like being hurt by that type [ __ ] right so godamn I ain't never say [ __ ] though like that like when because I was too young so it was kind of like a you know when you young and you feel some type of way about
something but you can't say nothing so it's just like you just eat It right so I remember we got home I remember them arguing and [ __ ] and then I remember my stepdaddy telling my daddy like this ain't got nothing to do with you bro you good like like um don't worry about nothing you didn't do nothing wrong she was supposed to tell y'all what time I had to go to work type [ __ ] right and God damn I remember my daddy um we we go home we we at home now well we
walk in the house cuz I think my stepdaddy told my daddy that while we Was like in the parking lot so we walk in the apartment we go in the house I remember my daddy and my mama talking and [ __ ] then I remember my daddy caught me in the room and he was like um he was like I ain't going to lie um um I'm HCK type [ __ ] he was like I think I'mma leave early what type [ __ ] and I remember being like I remember being like hurt by that
too type [ __ ] and then he left type [ __ ] and I I remember that's when I first started like being like man [ __ ] this [ __ ] like that's my that was my first feeling of like and my brother right that's when I first started being jealous of my brother cuz I was like you ain't seen me in years you done brought my brother out here and bought him all type [ __ ] you ain't bu me nothing right type [ __ ] so I think that's where that like jealousy
like Came from type [ __ ] but I wish I never did that with with my brother but I think I couldn't control no you're a child that's like anything I mean if you you got two kids and you buy one constantly the other child will become resentful of the child that you buy everything for and the child that you don't get anything he'll resent both the child ENT yeah so it's it's a natural reaction Savage I mean that was not something that you could consciously Like you know what it's okay you know blah that's
not how that's not how a child Minds function yeah but it explains why you have the resentment towards your father and you ended up growing even though it wasn't your brother's fault but still he was getting gifts in things that you weren't and so you resented him for getting things that you couldn't get and you resented the Father for giving to him mhm and you the opportunity that you Know you hear people say all the time Savage that you know make sure you tell someone that you love them you don't know when it's going to
be the last time or you might not get an opportunity and here we you you sit back and like man yeah I God the feelings that I had towards him what I would give to tell him I love you and I I appreciate you and bro I oh God yeah the type of father that you are I'm assuming correct me from wrong is that You want to be everything that your father wasn't facts to your son that your father wasn't to you facts yeah but I kind of understand like with my daddy like I like
I had forgave him for all that [ __ ] when I was a child more so like the reason why we not talking now is because like [ __ ] that he did like as a ad that just kind of rub me the wrong way right but like I kind of understand Like your child in the whole another country you ain't Rich right but it was just like look time doesn't cost anything though right but it was like other little things you see what I'm saying so it was kind of like but now like with
my kids I be feeling like I don't be doing all the way my job because of my job right type [ __ ] so I be trying to like balance that out like trying to like it's like you you you work to Receive to gain all this success and all the good [ __ ] but it's like I feel like the best parents in my opinion is parents that don't got it all I feel like broke parents are are better than Rich parents in my opinion because when you broke you got way more time type
[ __ ] right so you there for like a lot of the [ __ ] like yeah gifts and [ __ ] matter but they don't matter at the same time sometimes all the kid need is time your time facts something that a gift Can't replace facts we see uh yogatti lost his brother yeah was coming was at a funeral and ended up losing end up son uh his brother ended up losing his life Savage how do we how do we stop that cycle because I heard Rick Ro calling said bro let's put the guns
down let's put the masks down let's let's come together yeah let's build this let's build these communities let's get this paper together let's stop this senseless violence How I don't know I don't think that [ __ ] ever would stop it's just my opinion like people been killing forever mhm that [ __ ] just life but what what are they actually killing for nothing but you can't there's nothing that you can kill somebody for that validates right killing you're fighting over territory that doesn't belong to you that block doesn't belong to you that belonged to
The man yeah but I don't feel like people really fight over blocks no more like think it be like [ __ ] that people do to each other right is it it's like you can look at it from two points of views when I was younger I used to look at it from my point of view but now that I'm older it's like I look at it from like a older point of view but when I was younger it was like if somebody kill your brother mhm Like what what can stop you from wanting to
kill their brother seeking revenge like what can stop you from wanting to do that you feel what I'm saying like then I be like damn what give like people the right to say when you can kill cuz it's people who damn they got a license to Kill who can go they can go kill somebody legally what what's the difference like what makes their reason more valid than this young boy who just lost his Brother you feel what I'm saying so it's like I don't feel like killing whatever stop probably the amount and the how it's
happening and [ __ ] slow down right but I feel like as long as you got life you got killing when did you decide that rap was going to be your way out and you was going to put that behind you how old were you when you said you know What I can do this I mean I think 50 50 was a guy that that end was in the game end up getting shot nine times turned his life around um I don't know if 50 is a road model of yours I think I read somewhere
where you said 36 mafia yeah I like the they music growing up but I ain't really know much about 36 marfia like I knew about Project Pat like his story I ain't really know about 36 mafia like as a whole St 50 c was a th% like I looked it Up to him growing up too for sure like cuz he told his story more than like a lot of other artists he had a movie and all this type of [ __ ] so right I knew his story a little more like I was inspired by
his story [ __ ] so when did you decide to say I'm going to give this rap thing a try like after I got shot yeah that's when I really just started like trying to like rap for real right I had made songs playing around and [ __ ] with friends but that's when I started Like really like putting my money into it and [ __ ] like that right okay you meet Metro booming yeah and so that was so how did you meet him and how did you guys become such good friends I met
Metro boomman through key it's a Atlanta rapper name key mhm and I met key through M man he a rapper from Atlanta too right and key used to bring me around Sunny digital nobody has real names huh everybody got man Manny key slim Skinny oh God sh sh touche tou right God damn um they key used to bring me around sunny and sunny was the man okay and then everybody used to be at Sunny house right and then that's how I met Metro so you Metro up he gave you so did he know did he
know you rapped at the time I don't think so he a know me right but I Just walked up on like man I'm Savage bro I need some beats I'm F to start rapping and he [ __ ] around and sent me a couple beats and I had did like a couple songs on him and he [ __ ] with him and then we just grew a relationship and it it took off from there yeah did did you think or did you know but really sunny sunny my my songs with sunny blew up before my
songs with Metro okay type [ __ ] okay so it was really me and sunny was locked in like Metro was giving me Beats too but I was doing like projects with sunny and [ __ ] Sunny was like showing me how to record okay like let me use his house to record and all type of [ __ ] and then me and Metro grew our relationship [ __ ] while all that was going on typee [ __ ] yeah did you think you could become this cuz I remember I used to like when I
had caught my little first little song I remember I used to be sitting at Sunny house like man when the hell you Supposed to start getting show money bro type [ __ ] and he used to be like bro don't worry bro it's going to come bro trust me bro like it's going to come type [ __ ] I ain't think it'll be like this no hell no cuz back then it was like people was blowing up but I don't know if people was blowing up that big right I feel like all the people who
this big right now like we all got there around the same time type [ __ ] right like we ain't have nobody be like What future back then who was just big like that future says if young Metro don't trust you I'm going to shoot you I mean but you look at your guy I mean what is it about Atlanta you future tip Luda I mean east side if you if you in the rap game I think little baby yeah I think Atlanta just like a player City like it's just player like we Just I
don't know we just know how to talk we know how to walk dress talk to women set Trends it's just something in the I don't know no I had Tia on the podcast Tia said you ask him for a million dollars and he said no because he said that I would have to take more from you yeah he was still trying to sign me though TI is cheap as hell he going try to but I did he he sent me a offer yeah And I my counter offer was I want a million right and he
was like [ __ ] I'mma have to take so much from you in return right that it ain't even worth it ain't even goingon to be worth the milon in the future type [ __ ] so he actually saved you from yourself facts yeah I look up to TI cuz TI one of them [ __ ] he rich as a [ __ ] but he tight as hell boy that's how he keep that money though right he's smart with his Money had a planum album before you signed your first deal yeah yeah so now you
in you you're in a very favorable situation because you got you I mean it's not necessarily you got to do a bad deal because you already got a platinum album it's not like a situation you're looking to get signed so you can release an album you already got the album was it platinum or or was it gold gold gold had Platinum singles I had Platinum singles yeah but I had a go Album right yeah but you straight yeah for sure so it kept so that kept you out of a bad deal yeah cuz I was
like it was like all type of Street [ __ ] I was supposed to sign to who had like little labels and [ __ ] right but some just used to tell me like man hell no I don't take no 30,000 don't take no 50,000 like you worth more than that right you end up doing a 7030 split right yeah yeah with epic right yeah that was my first Deal it was like 7030 but like they had like a 10% distribution Feld some [ __ ] right yeah so what's your take on streaming I hear
snoo dogs say man look here man them streaming you stream a billion and man you ain't really making no money what's your what's what's your what's your thoughts on streaming um I think it all depends on how your deal structur cuz it's some money and streaming money streaming it's just about like how your deal structur And how much you scream type [ __ ] well it seem to me got to be some money in it cuz my label be giving me some money okay I I about to say cuz the way you talking you talking
like you got a structured deal that you be get they got to be making money cuz they giving me money right so it's some money in that [ __ ] some real money in it let me ask you about your catalog future sold his catalog I think he sold it 65 75 million is that something you'd be Interested in at some point yeah I probably lat on down the line for sure yeah I only got a couple albums right now though right but you going to startend it depends how how much my hustle how I
apply my hustle right cuz sh sh I might [ __ ] around and invest in something and become a billionaire and be able to pass my catalog down to my kids might not even have to sell my calot right I'm looking at the EXL Freshman Class Lil EAS vert yachty Kodak Denzel K J herbo David E L dick Anderson pack designer and you boy y'all hit a lick that year yeah for sure yeah y'all yeah for sure it was some stars on that cover do you uh do you do you ever sit back and like
man considering what your story of how coming to to Atlanta from London or the East Side your upbringing there's a lot of things that could have happened that this didn't happen do you ever sit back and like damn man this sh I'm Savage all right yeah yeah sometimes yeah but I be like I still got to keep going though you still trying to grind yeah but I do be like appreciative though I do sit back and just Daydream sometimes like Dam this [ __ ] could have went this way or this way type [ __
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album in six Years how much have you grown since your first album I think I my sound just changed like my beat selection like just talking about deeper things and just like I feel like I'm just growing up like I'm a grownup now right [ __ ] I was like a young [ __ ] when I first came out I was just saying anything type [ __ ] right samples on the album how difficult was it how difficult was it to clear the samples for some of the music that you used um Jan do that
my anr she she be Handling she be on on top of all that [ __ ] so she ain't really come back to me like nothing was too hard clear this time but it do get hard sometimes it gets hard because they want to charge more than what you think is worth or they just don't want you to sample it some people just don't want you to sample that [ __ ] right like um one of my songs like they cleared it for the album but then when it was time for me to do like
Commercials or like TV performances they wouldn't cleared so it was like damn I should have just never cleared it for the album in the first place cuz now this song big and and you can't sing it I can't really do nothing everything that I want to do with it so why so why would they let you do it for the album but not let you do it commercially I don't know man do you ever look and see like okay American Dreams supposed to drop And somebody else like you know what like three other artists might
be dropping that week would you ever move yours up or push yours back or you like hey me the best man win it depend on who dropping I'm keep it all the way real if it's somebody too big I'm going to get up out their way right but I'mma normally know that before I even right Drop Like I'mma know like you know out the labors have like a calendar of what be coming out for the most part Right but yeah I I get up out somebody way but people get up out my way too though
right they should yeah I'm looking at uh this are you the best rapper in that 2016 class I feel like I am right but I feel like everybody in that class should feel like they is too right but hell yeah I feel like I am for sure Dark Days song of the album you say your gun won't love you back and the block won't hug you back That song yeah I really was like in the booth like talking like to like a younger me a young man in that same situation type [ __ ] like
I was just like telling them like yeah this [ __ ] might look cool but in reality like this the truth like this what it really is right here like this the real type [ __ ] and I was just like talking to him in that way like yeah you you could say you love that Block but it don't love you it ain't going to hug you back right you can stay like hug the block that's like posting on the block all night it ain't going to hug you back you can love your gun but
your gun ain't never going to love you back right your friends after your candle light they ain't nobody going to come check on your mama like that they ain't going to give her nothing wow like you feel me like That's just how [ __ ] go for real you told kids to stay in school talked about seeing friends take their last breath talked about crying at night and Mama crying talked about kids growing up with our fathers said even thought you even thought about suicide uh tells the story that don't want people to live so
what is it about that lifestyle that people find so not people but young men especially a lot of young men of color find so Fascinating when you young you damn n get rewarded for dumb [ __ ] right like when you young but it ain't like a real reward but it's like you get more attention I say that like like when we be growing up like we don't be getting a lot of attention type [ __ ] like our daddy ain't no mama always busy type [ __ ] so like when you do bad [
__ ] remember I told you like you get a counselor right that was like something cool in school like if you had a Counselor like other kids looked at you like like you were something [ __ ] so it's like it just build up and build up and build up type [ __ ] and you just used to getting rewarded for dumb [ __ ] or not dumb [ __ ] but like bad [ __ ] right that it just carry on and then you just before you know that you a grown man and you
just stuck in this [ __ ] type [ __ ] but you're one of the ones that made it you got an opportunity to be a grown man got an opportunity to look back and say Look made some mistakes don't learn don't do make the mistakes that I made yeah you one of the few yeah bless very I know a lot of people that then um on this album Young Thug Young Thug or Thug record pre-recorded you still talk to Thug um yeah not like that though but we we in the top the 21 American
Dream you got a story a movie coming out n that was a Parody a par oh okay do you think your story you think you your story is good enough to be a movie or documentary you got a very interesting story Savage do you think you think so I do because it's the American dream I mean think about how many people you hear about this all the time people migrating to America and you're an American sucess story not a whole lot of money very tough upbringing single parent I mean you had love and you could
Have gone down this path and you went down this path for a period of time but somehow you come back down the straight and narrow and here we are American love success stories why not yeah yeah yeah I feel like it could be one day they'll hate on it now though why they go hate on it cuz they gonna be like what the [ __ ] 21 Savage deserve a story for a movie by him for what he did right you know how they do you know what they hate on your Relationship with Drake why
people got why people got beef with Drake what Drake do to anybody I don't know so cuz you know you going to get blowback if you cool with Drake they hating on him they going to hate on you too yeah I don't know I [ __ ] with Drake though Drake my boy yeah you sure I mean what's not what's not the like about the B I mean hell everything he touched turn to platinum damn gold Platinum oh God oh God yeah do you think people are Envious of your relationship because obviously he it's not
like he I don't I wouldn't say that he doesn't mess with a whole lot of people but he seems to have a very you and he seem to have a very special relationship and sometimes people get envious of that they want what you have what you feel like a man is if he jealous of how cool two other men are what do you what you think what you think that is what you would look at like that like if if Somebody said I don't like how stepen a [ __ ] with Shannon sh like how
that how that make you feel what you would look at that like that's some hate ass you know what right because it is but what what you have to understand and I'm learning this Savage is that as you rise the plaws are going to come but so is the hate and the criticism so if you're not willing to accept the plaws and the agulation that comes along with the rise you might as well get off because The hate and the criticism coming yeah yeah and that's a part of it and you just have to accept
that and and that can't the the the the hate and the criticism it can't can't drown out the Applause and the agulation right what agulation mean Applause the praise the the gramys the Man Savage you hear Savage album man F Savage man I don't fck f with that dude like that man he ain't like that yeah you know that's you know that's coming yeah but see Everybody everybody see as long as you like here and everybody's here with you we cool Savage but now now hold on now don't you go here cuz if I can't
go here with you I'm going start hating on you now if you get here now I got to say some stuff that might not even be true right because I don't want people to like you more than they like me I ain't never been like that though I know you're not but there a lot of people that are yeah I wonder why though like What make you be like that like I always look at it like [ __ ] that's just just like me hang on Drake yeah I'm trying to get there right I look
at it like inspiration like [ __ ] I'm working that's see that's how I look at it I look at anybody that's done something well it's been done once hell it can be done again right so it Drake there hell why can't I get there see that's how I looked at it when I saw Stephen A and I see guys that Charles barking things like that I was Like I'm not hating on them I was like I can do that let me see let me get on my grind yeah but that's not how we are
we're not we're not wired like that right and it's sad the touring aspect what what do you what do you like what do you like most about touring and touring with Drake the money lots of it come with Drake huh that [ __ ] just comp period right reach a certain level cuz [ __ ] Drake Ain't F to pay you nothing that you ain't worth right he ain't like he just paying you cuz you his friend hell no they paying you your fee man it make me get thck I should have started rapping instead
of playing football might as well but I got you what hell what a 55 year old go rap about [ __ ] rap about goddamn everything everything going through it's some 55 year olds that goddamn can relate it's a lot Google how many 55y Old men there is in the world as a bunch of them all right then n you Ain G to get me out there help me out there make a song get some Screaming money and then tell me if screaming pay or not what's it like touring outside the country it's different cuz
they they got it's like they love they love hard they might not even speak English but they can sing every word that you be singing yeah that [ __ ] crazy I ain't never got love like that before really well I have I have but I think it's just different because they don't see you as often so they appreciate you more right type [ __ ] yeah so you love so you love going you love I mean it's not like you don't love touring the states but you love going out of the country because they
give you love like but I think it might be different for me because remember I couldn't travel for so long like my first time ever performing out the country was a couple months ago right so Because you couldn't leave because of situation right so I think it was like anticipated for me a lot right but [ __ ] every soul showed out they was showing love like a [ __ ] like screaming every song like songs that I wasn't even expecting them to know they know every word every word yeah that [ __ ] was
crazy let me ask you this would you ever experiment with your sound like Drake dead um yeah why not once I get to Drake level you got you got to be big as hell To experiment because you could experiment and that [ __ ] in your career right but so you got to have like The Leverage to do that right type [ __ ] but right now you love you love The Savage sound right now that's working right now it's booming you sold out your album's number one you you go platinum I'm just slowly like
evolving like type [ __ ] like piece by piece like I ain't to just jump out the window and just make no whole Different [ __ ] right but I give you like little bits and pieces of it like as I go type [ __ ] you like R&B would you ever do an R&B album with me singing yeah hell no man I had to go get a a vocal coach okay I love R&B though I listen to that [ __ ] more than anything I don't even listen to rap like that okay you you
like R&B give me your M Rushmore R&B artist if you you got you got give me your top five R&B artists can they just artist or A group can it be either or it can be either or it's your list all right Mount Rushmore ain't in order neither no no no no now Mount Rushmore is only four but I'm I'm gonna make it easy on you I'm G let you get five I'm G let you get five all right Usher okay um I love s WV okay Beyonce okay the boy who in jail oh KY
and um five tough man number five tough bro I ain't G to lie I love Monica Monica okay but then like you got Mary J BL yeah yeah yeah you got goddamn cuz the O the brothers got some [ __ ] for sure it's so many other ones but them probably who I listen to the most right what your M Rush be R&B well Usher that definitely got to be on there Usher for me I was say usher Mary J uh Man James Brown I would probably know that's Marvin Gay James Brown sold right yeah
I wouldn't put him in R&B who James Brown no I wouldn't either no probably Marvin Gay I guess L for me I love Luther but you can't go wrong with Kenny Latimore either I don't know Kenny lore yeah he a little bit for your time yeah yeah but you know but you know but you know Luther right yeah yeah Luther van yeah yeah for sure so would you like let's Just say you want to do an RB album who who's the and you can't pick Beyonce why I can't pick no hell no cuz I know
you gonna cuz cuz you I know you going to pick beyon you can't pick Beyonce who you who jumping on the track with you just one person yeah for the whole album you have no you know what I'mma let you do Fe you can have you can have as many as you want I'm I'mma let you have I'll let you have Beyonce Beyonce Usher go do a track Beyonce go do a track Beyonce gonna do another track that's two I'mma just get two two from Beyonce um um Sumer Walker okay that girl um she hard
as a [ __ ] Coco Jones Okay um her okay I like her I'mma go get aant wherever he at we gonna go get aant we gonna get the boy Joe yeah okay we're GNA see where Joe at well you might put if you go get what about Casey and JoJo you go put on y&b they they be singing still they still say yeah Casey and JoJo I'mma go get Jagged Edge man you go way all bad I'm bring them back together I'mma go get S SWV y got to come back out um I love
um cut close if they still somewhere singing I get cut close I get Samo to to come back okay yeah see I'mma Have all type of [ __ ] on my [ __ ] right I probably make the hardest collaboration on R&B album of all time if I could just get all them artists right oh God yeah it's going to cost you a lot though [ __ ] it's all right we going to [Laughter] scream how did it feel to help jco win his Grammy I think we helped each other I don't think I just
helped him I think we helped each other it felt good [ __ ] that was my first Grammy too right ain't Like I just had 10 Grammys and I just gave him a Grammy right we won [ __ ] at the same time right I wouldn't have got it without him right so so what was that what was that feeling like you're sitting in there okay you get nominated obviously it's a huge accomplishment just to get nominated everybody say oh you know I don't even care if I win as long as I'm nominated bull you
nominated you want to win okay so you sitting there and the Grammy four goes to and they call Jay Cen 21 Savage what go through your mind I was sad that day cuz that was the day Kobe died oh oh right so I was kind of sad that day and then like they my award wasn't announced in the Grammys I knew I won it before we got there that's animatic it was like one of them like pre-announced yeah yeah you want to you want to hey I want hey I want to hear my want to
get up and walk like walk on stage yeah yeah yeah oh God But yeah that was the day Kobe died so kind like bter sweet so would you do a collab with jco yeah for sure it seems like you like look you one of these you one of these artists that hey you collab offset jcole Drake you don't seem to have no beef with none of the artist cuz I feel like I feel like life is bigger than like that type [ __ ] I feel like we all blessed to be in these Predicaments and
positions and [ __ ] because I feel like we'll be doing the people a Injustice by not giving them that right type [ __ ] like back in the day you don't remember like everybody used to be in everybody video it was more like Unity like because we was all coming from we we um we spoiled now right artist today is spoiled because of how far music has went M back in the day it was Like it was harder to get on right so they was more appreciative by the time they got they start getting
they [ __ ] together you know what I'm saying so they all stuck together a little more yeah we had that that's why I feel like beefs was so big back then right cuz it was like more rare now like everybody beef everybody beefing so type [ __ ] but are they really beefing or they trying to they trying to get some publicity it be half and half okay yeah I'mma put you On I got a tough one for you right now give me your top five Atlanta rappers Without Me Without You I'mma go Future
Okay TI okay Gucci Outcast and young okay I'm sorry Luda J y'all made my top five but that's damn Migos Thug y baby I'm sorry see you can't do know Atlanta top five you can you got to do Atlanta top 20 no nope we got too many great no cuz I let you put everybody up in there so when they see that I like my Five them [ __ ] ain't going to put me in they top five anyway they might hell no they G to say current current or all time so what what what
type of influence did Gucci have on you you say you saw Gucci at Miss wieners very very early on I'mma keep it real like growing up on the east side bro Gucci made me hate Young Jeezy as a child right right you see what I'm saying yeah like I used to really be like man [ __ ] gez I'm from the East side [ __ ] Gucci type [ __ ] on God Gucci had a big impact like Gucci was the one like and he was like he put that [ __ ] on the map
like let it be known like the East Side type [ __ ] are you big in the gifts do you buy uh other uh other I saw Drake uh Vault Thug or Ferrari are you begining to buy other artist gift that jump on your album and and and blow it up um yeah we be buy I done bought Drake some [ __ ] he done bought me some [ __ ] I done bought Thug [ __ ] he bought me [ __ ] Like people that I [ __ ] with in Metro right I just
don't do [ __ ] for the internet so like you do stuff and don't nobody know about it yeah but a [ __ ] might have a chain on that I bought him you'll never know cuz I ain't F to like be like huh huh bro like type [ __ ] were you old enough to remember freak Nick yeah freak Nick would like that that wasn't it I I don't remember being there I just remember traffic like can't go nowhere Nope type [ __ ] it was real nice though but you got to come to
my fre you been you know I be throwing freak NE too you what what hold on what time what what really going on on my birthday when when is this October a man man we had like how many people was out there like 7,000 people yeah all downtown at the underground we had we had Loop perform what yeah yeah I remember them days you see what I told you see after You get 55 you just get on up out the way you know I had my time in my early 20s in my late 20s early
30s I had my time I had my time with freak you miss you it real nice man let let me stop let me stop a't G say it was all right it was all right no uh everybody be talking about you know teeth what's going on I mean you spend a lot you put spend good I mean now you you you you savage you going to be in Front of the camera you rapping you got to have your grill right yeah for sure how many bands you put in there like 85 see I had to
go get them right you get them right yeah you're supposed to though yeah not the composite [ __ ] n no that's that I know yeah you that porcel yeah you got it too grills no [Laughter] grills let man I want to I want to get You this dating publicly would you ever date publicly again yeah probably you would would you no why because I believe if you date publicly you have to break up publicly and you have to deal with your issue publicly if you date privately you can break up privately and deal with
any issues you may have privately damn I never thought about it like you just taught me something that's just me I mean to each His own I mean some people like that I don't I my relationship is not for public consumption right because sometimes I think people start to try to live try to to play out their relationship for the public and do things oh you see what they did they on this vacation now if I go on vacation it's just me and you I ain't trying to do for the grandmother net right yeah I
mean if I if I don't all that like when you go out to eat and you women got to Take picture oh let me take a picture of the come on man stop it yeah on God so that's that's where I'm at with that but that's the each's own yeah but you but you could I mean if your lady says okay you know Savage I hey you might just changed my mind oh God you might just change my mind cuz you you got to break up purp but what if you never break up you don't
have you ever been in a relationship that you felt like I don't think we ever Going to break up hell all the relationship that you be in you be thinking that in a time I don't think anybody get no relationship thinking like man this this is going end tomorrow you think you think it's going to last forever God but I just think the thing is that sometimes you know man that internet man then people start then people start surmising what's going on oh he ain't he don't love her like that she don't love him She
put the street he put the street and this to play I mean you you get inundated with that Savage man you hear that enough and it just yeah it'll take a toll on you it does it does uh your tattoos how old when you got your first tattoo 13 14 mhm I had got my mama name though all right so she couldn't so you cool with that so how when you first got your face tap your first face tap how old were you 16 she didn't like that 17 yeah she ain't like it 1 17
MH yeah so So what was was it the cross was it it was 21 okay and then that next year um my big brother Larry that was like Johnny best friend M he had got killed him and his mama got killed together wow and I had got rip Larry cuz me and Larry went and got 21 together right so I had one a got rip L around it that was my second face tattoo to right what does being a father mean to you Everything it's just like I feel like that's where your legacy count the
most cuz when you think of like all the Legends you be like Dam I wonder what they son doing what they kids look like like that's who carry on like that's your name that's your lineage yeah I feel like it mean everything and you're trying to be everything that your father was to you yeah facts do you make a is it just Second nature or you try or you make a con or you like yeah my dad wouldn't do this so I'm gonna do that my hell no I don't do that it's your second nature
your second nature I don't even think it's like I don't even think of me and my daddy relationship when I think of like my kids just what what come natural to me do you always want to be a parent did you always want to be a father yeah hell I always wanted to have kids I feel like what did you what did You really do for if you don't have no kids right like what was all of this for you just going to die and then what that's the end of you ain't nothing else to
go on like type [ __ ] like how I look at like Bry and [ __ ] like kenar Jr or like Carmelo's son it's like that's what it's about [ __ ] like oh God you want what if your son would say dad you know I want to be a rapper Too I'mma try and find something else but if that's his passion right [ __ ] we gonna do it the right way right when people say rap is declining your answer is um my show price is going up what they declin it can't it
can't be declining [ __ ] my [ __ ] going up right I just did the most streams in the day for for Of my career the biggest solo streams of my career right so it can't be declining but I don't know though right what's 21 Savage goal for 24 we early in 24 we we January so what what can we expect what's your goals for 24 I just want to like level up with everything that I'm doing like better show um I feel like everybody love the album already like um spend my time with
my kids and my my people like I want to go back to London More often and [ __ ] and just like now that you can travel that's something that you want to do yeah like traveling and just starting new Ventures and [ __ ] and business and [ __ ] just growing up right doing grown stuff 21 Savvy ladies and gentlemen all my life grinding all my life sacrifice hustle P the price want a slice got the roll a dice that's why all my life been grinding all my life all my life grinding all
my life sacrifice hustle P The price want a slice got the roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my [Music] life