%2 Dooley Podcast Episode 2 - %3 Fery

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once you see one of the content you can't forget any anyway I can tell I'll will be asking some questions to do middle by Starting your Mand could you tell me James what are the three worst decisions that you have given in the business world that you regret for three worst decisions so one is not joining my workshop yeah today I didn't join Cory's Workshop I need to say that Cory PRI to this was so annoyed that's definitely my number one yeah I think the other two I need to make certain that I'm talking both

of them with regards to time management because I'm fine wasting Money in an investment or a venture because that's just life not every single kind of yeah Venture that you do works but when I'm wasting time it's start coming back it's not coming back so from that point of view I've done quite a lot of training courses and I followed the training courses for many years and then I realized that the training courses are just not even out of day they just never worked when I look back at it so that's like one Massive failure

and then not early enough adapting to doing the masterminds the masterminds and the meetups and actually meeting with so many now what a class who's being friends and family like yourself like I I fully enjoy coming doing these Meetup know that we can share and experience stuff together and I've always been your network is your net worth I've always been that but I used to just attend the conferences and I'm talking like eight nine years ago and never bolt on and grabbed the people that I really respected and pull to one side and say let's

get in a room together and let's have a good time it's important for us to do this yeah so I would say that what's what's yours little car probably similar to so obviously I've been in seov for a very long time um and one of my biggest regrets is after going to I originally met Dy at a um Mastermind but it was Like when I was like 20 20 eight year ago so 20 I guess Charles yeah yeah Charles and I'm like oh my God how much more experienced and better off would have been in

business networking at a younger age when was easier that's SE was much easier way back then yeah that's it all so basic what he's telling you is when he met D he changed his and then down all downhill from there that that is a little Snippet and your SP but I think mine was also not doing something it's not having the courage to start like a real career in in Tech because I was you know like painting cars for many years and and it took me too long to actually quit my job and start the

business so I dragged it out too much when I could have let's say done it in like 2014 or 2013 it took me on 2017 until I drag I could even do it earlier but I didn't have the courage and believe was that like a confidence Yeah confidence I also don't know how old are you by the way I'm 40 40 this year really yeah I'm still 39 so you actually turn to four5 yeah I know I like you know I take lots of supplements I only watch comedy movies as well so I'm not sad

so it helps no I can't imagine you're sad actually a great feat but but you know yeah I behind the cameras mov yes behind the camera they cry yeah yeah sometimes I am sad but you know not like that sad sad yeah if I Think I treat depression with with I treat the kind of with the sadness with setting up a big goal and then going for it it just makes you forget you know that you're sad it just you know when you're fire to do something the world doesn't exist I also always feel like

maybe the the age when you get older actually your brain starts to change chemically and that's why for instance in 20s the things that I couldn't understand it's way much easier to Understand in 30s same like 40s too yeah simple what I'm in my 30s for me to know that I can't imagine your 30 I I AR with you I I'm not even sure that whether everyone survived from your fighs to be honest some of them might be we lose we lose your off our life from yeah definitely what about yours what's your biggest failures

I believe the wrong decisions uh one of them might be leaving the casino after the medic update actually I could stay and Continue there as much as possible second one would be like I am I'm too much focused on sharing information rather than focusing on business I always wanted to change the industry it was like an obsession still I have it a little bit but I'm trying to stay away from that the third one would be like uh I create too much personal attachment to the people it affects my decision judgment and that's why I'm

not a no man I always say yes since I see people like Friends I would like to be able to prioritize my own family first actually then I would like to do these extra favors if I have time so when you say to the people is it to clients or is it to employees or to which people that's one of the things because in in the business because since I came from the casino nich when we have the company that we have everyone was very close to each other and I had that habit uh when

I come to the other Industries too and I Thought that the same Dynamics would work for there too it works well too for some people like minority I can tell like Carl James I'm very easy and comfortable with them that's why he should come to the mic Workshop but not bad but when it comes to do some other angles I believe I should be able to understand that I am a brand now and I can't have that much personal relationships because even if I see Myself a regular guy and I behave like a regular person

people get different messages from the behaviors that you you gave like like for example for instance like uh I was in Vietnam and when I smile someone they get it with a different context they become happy I I'm also happy for that too but they exaggerate it to be honest and I they they they feel a bit different for instance I was eating in a burger burger place we have eaten together too and Actually it was the first time that I saw W from Auto bloging basically oh yes and he wasn't working with you then

and he just told me that K you are so humble it's very easy to approach you and I was thinking like why it should be hard why it should be hard and and whenever they say that you are humble I don't get what they mean but I guess they mean that they're not able to approach maybe someone else that easily so it it makes really good amount of Friends but the same time it sometimes become harder to manage the time because you need to answer but when you don't answer they get also get I think

nor that as well speaking on behalf of Cory he's got 15,000 students that adore him for the information that he shared and when they attend these events like Rob Nel who got up on stage was like go and go and speak to the people that you want to meet then when you're meeting new people and you trying To remember their names and you try and remember what they do it can be so like braining that's why sometimes when we go and see Cory at the end of the night you can just see he he drained

he's not Cory he's dra because he's at 100 150 people coming to him nonstop he's trying to be that nice person get upset by not going to workshops so yeah it's true it's overwhelming I overwhelming it can be very tired I I always actually carry a Noal gin with me because I always during the conferences I take like yesterday I have taken two noval gin for instance it's an anti migraine pill and I always take it today I have drank maybe like five or six double xpro to be able to stay energic and still I

have it all the caffeine and tomorrow too it will be same so it is a bit that part is really hard and I like to have that connection because I help many people from let's say marous Island to the people in Vietnam I always meet with them as their family and I love being able to help them but when it comes to spending time all always together my wife is not happy about that situation and that's why I feel like after moving out to the cettas I will I should have more private life so you

have to detach yourself a little bit definitely but when you start to do that people get resentment think because when when you are too close to them and when you start to put some distance that Get a wrong message but I would also then say that's one of the little things that you have that we've ched about I think in the last one as well is you let people your feeling too much I think I think an easy way of looking at it right if you had a business with we was just in a mastermine

then before right and there was someone in there that says all 50 members of Staff go to like you can't do that right but why can't you do that because maximum generally like mad Sinkers would say the maximum you can generally deal with is up to maybe 10 they the probably range is six to eight middle managers of what you want to deal with right but why can't you because it's so time consuming and exhausting well it's almost you've almost got to start when you're going to these events yeah almost prioritizing some people are be

saying I really want to whether it's work and it's a certain client that you want to Speak to and I'm not going to be pulled away from being able to speak to some of the people that I need to speak to all want to speak to you've almost got to have that priority in in place like you can't deal with no disrespect to let say the cleaners but the cleaners need to speak to out of cleaning or whatever don't mean or the virtual assistance that building links or doing Outreach you can't speak to all of

those you can only deal with your head of backlink Department and stuff like that so almost like you would run a business there times you've got to prioritize and yes it means that you're going to upset some people yeah because you don't have the time to say not a problem I'll spend 10 minutes with every single person but there's one thing that we're all like and that's time yeah and you've got to start prioritizing and getting better at time management it's also you're absolutely right there one actually in Saon and here too in zop I

just say that actually I just want to be retired from the stages but I want to put our new to leaders in all case you're ComEd to the stage and I want that be nice yeah because they are new faces and at the same time when they are on stage I feel like I am on stage as well you're proud of of it's like almost your part of your little definitely in Workshop to I just say that actually go and meet with these guys they already know these things they Already published their own success with

it and also I also of course suggest you as well simil way so that they can bother you I would suggested I wouldn't I would because I W invited to the workshop you don't need an any I want to flip this around from forget the weaknesses forget the failures Cory I want to ask you you're the first one successes what makes you what makes you happy and what makes you like that you very proud of and why You've been successful I believe that usual this proud moment comes when people send their uh let's say stories

with our case studies mainly maybe I said it earlier too but for instance I saved a cat and that cat has been adopted by a ano that I saved a cat from this street he was about to die and saved it and the person who accepted a cat or adopted a cat told me that I started SEO during 2020 thanks to your case studies and he was able to protect His family during the covid thanks to the case studies as well and he wanted to just pay that favor back by saving the cat and these

type of personal stories just help me to keep going actually rather than the money or other things because you will do money make money anyway so yeah when it comes to having these personal attachments it's very much more important for instance Jack long from Vietnam he created a really successful local SEO agency in The C detailing nich he's using our framework and he also saved his family from a hard situation thanks to that and we were eating Japanese Pizza in Vietnam together and it was a proud yeah it's better than you just money yeah and

for instance I I never forget during one of my birthdays uh one SEO from Bangladesh he just had sent his kids pictures to kids they were reading my case studies and he was saying that he was able to sustain his family Again thanks to case studies when you see these things you you start to not care about the negativity and you start to just feel that someone needs it and TR to do that these are the moments that you feel that you f fulfilled and you are happy this will be the first thing the second

thing is that I believe I created some new Concepts and bring some new angles and it also makes me a bit proud of that because it it takes courage to be able to show another way It is Shi a little bit is Shi the industry the status quo but one major thing there is when I brought the semantics to the main stream for instance I also did some a few things that I didn't tell these things earlier but since I get the attention many people try to be my client but I always ask them for

instance who you are taking consult right now if they give me another consultant name or Agency for instance I Never accept that client and send them back to do that agents because I don't want to take or harm anyone and another thing is that I always try to to help other people to for instance that's why I started telled actually lately promote the link building as well for instance because some link building agencies they told me that because of me they are they have to always explain things and I start to tell that look the

links are also always fundamental for the SEO and It helps them to actually tell people look Cory also says that too just continue with that so I didn't compete with people in an aggressive way I didn't compete at all I just explained and I try to help everyone so that's that personal trait also makes me happy to have and mainly these two actually for SEO at least and one more thing I lost everything during the medic updates and I was able to come back financially as well so it maybe happened Accidentally but it happened so

it also makes me proud as well I think what makes me proud is again the fact that I've grow my you know my follower base based on value that I share with case studies and even entertainment I think entertainment at case studies and having those messages that you probably also like have lots of them yeah messaging people messaging you saying thank you you know thank you fair for those case for that specific case I've done the Same thing and I got you know links in like this these Publications or like I've help my clients or

I set up my agency now and I'm doing digital PR as well it's just it's just amazing just so proud such a proud moment when others are flourishing and thriving based on what you did so you did something and somebody else is better off it's like nothing can nothing can pay that that thing but also you know that like my happiness comes from Achievement I'm very you know I am depressed if I'm not achieving something so I must keep going I must keep doing things in order to be happy I would I would be depressed

if I had no you no Mission I know it might sound bad and it's not good because you know you know of course I'm proud of like you the family the kids and my wife and everything but that would not be a satisfaction for me also says the same he always in the books at least he's not Alive but he always says that if the human brain doesn't chase that Chas a goal or Duty it will be in a miserable State brain always should be busy with exploring achieving and doing something and I think many

people who are sad in life maybe I mean I know there's like lots of depression I I agree with that but the way I treat sadness sometimes CU you we laugh you're like oh I'm crying you know after the videos which is not quite you Know accurate but it sometimes is Right sometimes we are sad sometimes you know I know you argue with your wife or you have something that you you don't like it you're sad or but then if you challenge your brain with something you forget about that and things get resolved by by

themselves so I think people who are are sad sometimes in life if we would find you know a mission and I think that's that's the first step that I I would say and yeah That's that's where I find my happiness in like achieving things and for you card so mine's like it's it's an awkward one this cuz like me partner you're about to marry so weens here yeah but like she often jokes the bank of hson and this is because like I come from quite a you know like not unsuccessful background but parents were working

class made a bit of a thing for themselves but on occasion you know They might struggle and need a little bit of help luckily I learned SEO and can help them on that side so business ventures I can help them Rank and earn money that way but then sometimes they might need money so then I helped by giving them money as well and like to me that helps like it ticks a box so I can help family and then ALS Al going out with friends and not really worrying about bills and things like that obviously

dly usually picks up the bill That's why I don't worry but that's before he got in I knew it was coming I knew it was coming I can feel it but like that's probably the motivation for me to be fair is yeah helping family and friends and hopefully I think one of the unique points of when to be when I originally went to do this very first Mastermind was I think actually do said it in like a if you had a boat it's better you all having a boat rather than one person on a boat

and you Can all go out and party together type thing yeah um yeah that's kind of the philosophy I I can see both of you like kind of family driven and like Community you know what's Prett crazy about we we uh and I don't mean in an arrogant way with four successful people in the so industry we've all not come from any sort of Rich background we've all had to work here yeah right we all strive to improve and grow and innovate and and have that mission that no matter where We at we we want

to go again yeah and we all like no turn around and mention like how like a monetary value that we've got to when Mo money's the byproduct it's about the journey AB elevating others and you know what like that should res that surely I'm Hing must resonate with some people that at the start of their journey to realize that actually it's all about giving value and when you give value money will come if your end goal is to earn money that's fine if that's What your mission is but to get there anyway the most successful

people provide so much value you need to develop something more than just and just actually understand and actually rub off on people and when you when you meet a lot of people that are successful they all share the same traits well following on from that some of the most depressed people I've ever met were multi multimillionaires who s the business and that goal was their mission Was terminated and life is over that was it yeah they set himself an end goal they've reached the end goal and he's like what no the most like that's it

you shouldn't you shouldn't do that the sad life I can imagine with regards to happiness and success for myself is i' have to say first would be my kids my friends and my family like even this like I clash you guys know as being family you know what I mean and I don't say that lightly like genuinely would When we came down to your office and when we did the Vietnam and you there was this there was a sentence in there saying I'll always remember this podcast in Vietnam and I think you said in 10

years time I'll always remember this podcast and it's so true so line like because you're sharing times and memories with people and this is what it's about and I think it's this meet up and doing things and and I might take one or two little bits from from you of Information and like oh I need to start elevating one or two my stuff like what you're doing or the culture needs to improve from something and I might take something from Kyle Even though I deal with Kyle on a day-to-day basis when you're out of the

normal day-to-day running of the business you just pick little things up where you go oh I didn't realize that oh maybe we should do this and it's the same with you it's just it's these times that it's not the The end goal it's the Journey of getting in there it's to climbing the mountain that's the fun bit so this now here is what makes me happy this is what strives me to want to achieve more success and do I do it for myself absolutely not like if you ask me what my biggest my biggest success

is I remember my mom about 10 years ago creating a bucket list and she created 20 things in a bucket list and I think she's done something like 14 things in that bucket List and I've helped to do all them 14 and push the triers there 20 things in a bucket list who was like you're never going to do those things unless I make you do it and sometimes I'd say to it right we're going to do that next month oh no we can and she goes and does it and she like wow she's L

but at the time she's always like no I'm too busy I can't and it's it's excuses for it's excuses for doing it and it's that procrastination almost like people have In work which the procrastination of there's my bucket list will only be Tik Tok n well what are we going to do next week to take one of them off or next month to take one of them off so it's all little things like that there sometimes when you're chasing something it's not just like I said money or business it could be chasing somebody out helping

others 12 a them to reach their goals and it might just be a mini goal of I've never been to you New York Which is one of my moms I really want to go to New York right well we're going to make that happen we're going to go I've never one of them was like a random one on New Year's Eve I want to be sted at 11:59 for New Year's Eve in in the sea I'm like that's a random one we went to Dubai and 11:59 we stood in the sea and all the fireworks

went off and everything and she was like she was crying and she looked it and it was like that was one of her it wasn't more than Mine I enjoyed it but to see that and see that happiness big me then happy so with regards to success and happiness sometimes it's it's weird how every single one of you mentioned how somebody else's happiness made you yeah happy and that most then when you start realizing it without in the subconscious mind it was only when you three started talking about it then and I sat back a

little bit I was like wow this must be a trade For successful P business people not business people but happy people in life like what are these people that are sad or depressed what are they doing to make other people happy are they just sat there on the couch watching TV every the morning and watching the news do you know what I mean like what are they doing help others CU when they help others they probably won't be sad and depressed it's such a good satisfaction so it's just it's just I've never I've Always understood

like try to help us out but like when You' seen that then it was like actually that's a bit of I guess we can't frame it like when people focus on just making money I believe it makes them depressive because they're always fa racing Against Time with the numbers yeah and I believe that process ends up making less money yeah you just focus on creating something new and helping people money EV comes it's like money is a side effect of actually hard Work and solid work actually proba a little bit of a two-edge sword this

though because then probably all four of us have the same issue of we also always say yes to people because that's the two-edged sword you say yes a lot and it's like oh God I probably shouldn't have said yes but I've said it now I'm the balance is there finding the Ballance but also when you start to say no and focus on the monetization I it should at least a Person always should be doing maybe just meditation to to make himself to remember what was the real goal or the first go in the first place

because for instance when I when I see you and talk to you I always feel like it is wor to come here but I just focus on the business side no it doesn't work to come to an SEO conference for the business definitely not for business like if you go to an SEO conference to you know make make money or get leads like that's not The right place to be but when you come here for helping people explain the things and also create a new movement of the effect and having memories together yeah I believe

it is wor for nearly everything and it also makes me happier when I do SEO because I I always remember people when I do it it gives you more Drive money can motivate you just for enduring these big big big big processes to be honest it's too much work just for money you need some Personal attachments there as well but also my tell that if you just focus on the attachments I believe some people will exploit you and I guess it is what you mean there when you try to say no and sometimes I believe

people don't realize that they do exploit on you as well because because they don't realize it since you don't tell them explicitly and I believe it requires some maybe implicit communication skills like maybe you don't tell it explicitly but you Just annotate it maybe maybe some different things what do you think about it to be able to say no and focus on your own business course would you use some communication skills to imply it or to annotate it we see scenario would you think that you would want to say no but but you did say

yes so let's scenario it's a better form we have a watch when we spoke we spoke when we spoke inside on on stage um so many People came over to us and asked us the question to say why did you argue in January that was the like what what was the argument that was happening in January like we are we are great January this year right we had great friends and were great business Partners right but in January this year it was me that was like asking car lots of questions to say why have you

said and don't get me wrong I'm arguing with car and blaming Carle and then when car when car then actually Give me a little piece of my own menic like it was like oh the problem is I'm a more obviously extroverted introverted so I have to take what he says onto the shoulders and then takes a little time to process then say say back yeah so like but I'm like why have you said yeah to all these like I said yes and I was then passing it to you for you to look at and choose

the best to choose the best five because we get certain people coming over like oh Is an investment opportunity the business is worth a million pounds but if you give us 100,000 we'll give you 40% of the business so it's an unbelievable deal that's a good deal pass it through pass it through pass it through what can we deal with heer and then car goes that's a good deal that's a good deal that's a good deal so we just yes to everything but then then what ends up Happ is yes we can run it successfully

from a PS standpoint but am I being successful in the gym and working out and my health am I being a successful dad are you being a successful husband at that then you start to then we up no we're doing too much and at that point you need to St take a step back so I was blaming K the TRU about is it was just as my just as much my fault as it was Carl's and Carl then said it back and was like oh yeah but the good thing is we're able to have that

and that conversation bang bangs And be like well what is it was it okay yeah I'm no going to prev before I give it to you you're ready to compromise as well like your truth because everyone when you argue everyone of course you need to if you don't and you've got like two positives in in a b it doesn't work you need to both be be able to if it's an elastic band and things are going bad you've got to be able to understand okay and no stretching his elastic band I need to stop stretching

it so much and He needs to understand why my lasty B will snap and you got have got to push each other but understand each other boundaries and respect each other's boundaries as well because I know Kyle looks going doing his plunge pool in the morning right I know he loves taking the dog for a walk I know he wants to have a healthy breakfast I know that that's why I call you a prince yeah then then he wants to go to the gym in the afternoon I I respect all of that and like no

Don't ever stop doing that if got too much work then he can't do that that's that's a problem not for him not to do what he really enjoys and loves that's a problem within the business that we need to assult time and he needs to respect that my time when I come home from work 3:00 3:00 7:00 is's my kids with I'm going out for a bik ride don't ring me unless it's unless the the office is got burn do not ring me between 3 or 700 just Jumped between 3 and 7:00 and you ring

me it better be something serious otherwise I will be really annoyed and I never really get in C for because I have that time with my kids and it's my dad time and and all of us it's actually my next question too so how do you balance being a good father and being a good businessman what how do you prioritize it and uh how does it affect for business what's your methods of I would say from the outside looking in to do The situation is he kind of when he's at home he does as much

as he can for the kids and he's always I think 3:00 you can almost count he's always at the park you'll take the kids or take the kids out like this one because this is a great point because when I whenever I I talk about D in a good way I never talk about very it's the only mistake nothing so when I whenever actually explained Dulan he is actually Talents skills advantages as well and I I also see you as a mentor for me for the business angle as well and someone always tells me that

he's a party monster so this is the only thing that you see literally like you explain lots of things and you educate us actually for the business in a very good way but always they see a party animal party monster that's that's gone like to be fair they remember do do you they back do it more than anyone last last Everyone P I was in bed yeah I was surprised I was like what are you doing like like why are you going up this is a true story it's the last ch ch M we had

quite a few people came out to come party with the boys and every night he was like oh he's going to party tonight I'm like no no we're going back are you going to party tonight no no we're going back well on the the Friday it was the but we said Fridays the party and it was like 10:00 a.m. and he like the boys are The boys are I remember that Jason capuzzi I to Jason he actually told me that okay dly is on and I didn't understand what what he means five minutes later Carl

was holding the J also Jason and James was actually ping vka from the mouth of the Jason as well I was running away so the boys were having fun yeah definitely but the main thing there is also it's actually just that's why I call two person Know like it's one of the I found the name there if you take that two good person it's good enough for you but the third person might kill you and in this you are a family person for the 98 of the times actually it doesn't match with the party kind

of car since people don't see that side of the D and they just remember the oh he drinks blah blah blah type of things and when I explain that he's actually a great person for business Etc they know it but they Always remember the other side and it's one of the things I think I think it's Mainely because like in my wedding speech I speak about it's life is all about balancing is like the place of what you can whether that's family friends making certain you go out and having experiences now I'm all about being

outside in nature get yourself outside stop staring at a screen and an iPad and watching TV go and do this is what car say like normally 3:00 I'm I'm Never inside watching a film with the kids I'm outside I'm want to by that it's raining there's no such thing as like bad weather R just in inappropriate C that's what I say but it's raining put some water get out get get a muddy ice to play in the mud and eat a bit of mud that's fine eat some worms be um we get yourself out there

but it's all about spinning the plages no the truth of the matter is in my opinion if one of them plagues that you're spinning Smashes then something's going wrong there that's family Friends Business Health or like happiness in in going out and having the experiences and stuff so what's the bman is prior to me having kids I had a lot more time and that time was spent more going to the gym and more party but now I'm trying to be the best D I can be I've know how to I can't spin the party and

play as much I still love going out and having a good time with friends so I don't do it as much but When I do do it I go like Jason Gus he says I'm on but I'm normally on or off because I can't be one of them that's going to have a few drinks and because then I'm get really excited I'm like right I'm all in but I'm either all in or all out when I've got have back door it or I'm going to be out so 4:00 in the morning but we we we

come together rarely when we are together we should do something unique make it intense yeah and also all the Speeches are done and we we help people and then we also want to do something different to actually ease the sess and let it cook so I just like you know I'm probably going to be on to there a situation so we all went to um where was it Palmer and dully wasn't in the mood that night he wasn't you could just tell he just m bit flat bit flat so then um Adam or her went

look get that chalk girl to come over I should had like 30 shots right we'll Have all 30 he has to drink them all so then by about shot 10 you can he's starting to CH up a little bit then he's getting happy and then all of a sudden that's it he's on it's like you T to switch to switch dipped over exactly but um f how do you manage kid family balance did you for did you miss any I don't know any program of your kids because of the business did you regret about it

not like the important ones I'm I if it's a Very important program like you know I Christmas you know going on the girls are going to state for like celebration of Christmas and they do like acting or like they have like um irck they have like they're in a band in a school band and I never usually miss those sometimes you know they have ice skating on on Monday evening so usually I take them to ice skating but if it's something if I have something very important I do skip that sometimes or piing them up

from Piano but I'm not I'm not figured out I'm not prioritizing enough that's kind of the right word of like uh spending even more time time with the kids I think I need to work on there I'd say you've got to be careful like I from man and your conversation I thought you were the way you're doing is brilliant because what you can't do what what people need to understand as well is if you start spending more time being while you would Classes being let's say a better dad right your business is not going to

be as good yeah so you've got to kind of wait up now what I absolutely loved and adored of what you said was it's half term every halterm or six week away H so the kids then can know okay Dad's in work mode Monday to Friday Sundays you don't you don't touch anything on a Sunday Sunday time yeah all day and sometimes what I would say is there's certain dads right no Disrespects to these people that are like this but there certain DS that might be present more with the kids might see the kids more

but they're not really present no much the kids are satting in the corner watching their iPads and they're not even communicating and talking when I get to see my kids I'm like we're going doing something we're going out we're going experience it that's what you're like with you guys right it's it's half term we're going Out we're going on a holiday if it's half term 6 weeks travel around Europe or like around the world I think everyone always wishes and this is what we are I always say we always like time and I think everyone

wishes like oh I wish I could just put more time in for me in the moment it's I wish just put more time in being able to go to the gym like I just don't feel like time to do my daddy stuff do the work stuff see family see friends and go to the gym Like as much as I would like defin I'm brushing I'm brushing around doing stuff to like well I need to be on for 3:00 so I wish I could do that but then we're always going to wish we could improve on

time management but it's you can only do so much I believe there there isn't some good size that comes natural too I'm not a father yet but I always try to prepare myself for that and that's why I'm asking these questions to learn from the experience ones and a few people who are Successful business people and also fathers they told me that the kids make you way much more patient yeah and way make you also way much more call for really stressful situations because you always think about the family and since you already are being

tested by New Beginning humans could live humans then normally you let's say get angry for something but after the kids you realize that it doesn't work to together the thing is you have to develop like kind Of like a wall when the kids are shouting and screaming it's like training training for business right like I just keep calling you guys shout okay it's going to be fine and then they they chill out and then oh it's it's not too bad so it's a training that's why actually I mentioned that chemical T because I believe human

brain through the time it is for because I guess I can't think like you're think right now not because I'm not a father yet to Young I'm also too young I believe because I believe that whenever we have a new decade in the life I guess the brain changes and that's why for instance we don't remember our own childhood to remember your own childhood like completely because no not at all right because when you have a children or child basically it takes time to have that empathy because we forgot how it was and we don't

remember because we changed I guess getting older I so I it Makes you a more empathetic person for sure having a child yeah yeah having a child develops you know you you become a child again as a man yeah you having kids mini coray running around would be be would be brilliant would be brilliant for you because what I would say is babies and kids are so more intelligent than what means the ey and they know how to manipulate they know how to push their manages right so you can have kids that are crying their

eyes out you're Like no you're not doing you're not doing you feel so sorry and you're like you're turn around going I just want to go give him hug and the next minute when the no they're not going to get just turn around and stop like they know how to push your boundaries and they know and then when you stting realizing that you you would start to become a lot more conscious of your time that when someone's wasting your time you will learn to say no a lot faster or if You're in a business decision

or whatever it is you know learn to be no that's not what happening or someone's coming and trying to manipulate and use you in some way shape or form you'll just know straight away no I'm not having this if I can't say no to my own kid yeah ex I can't say no to anyone exactly 100% yeah it's a very good point actually it even incentivized me as well yeah good father going to move in I I want to come And visit your new house wasn't it about 5 months ago podcast he said he was

moving with him when he moving in next week go back that's one thing actually I I am thinking always because whenever I come to a conference my wife always gets a little bit of course upset because whenever I do these speeches or lectures while helping the industry I always delay side that's why I prepar this questions actually do you want us to Rent a van we'll come across we'll lift the furniture for you be for a week I'll come and take it is it take you down to the cult I believe after s I am

definitely going and I will be happy to as as always say all of you you can always visit us there we can go to the eus I guess our first Gathering yeah that exclusively went for maybe just 100 or something will be in kushad I guess it will be one of the good moments to know the area and I Guess then we can work on saying no together together we can list all the invitations together that we can choose this is not this is not I I want a Turkish Barber oh I want a Turkish

I want Turkish kebab Mass look like Turkish and then a massage and a Turkish bath I want all that mud all over me getting in this s the Turkish bath might be really harsh I I I no it's all what we did yeah of course because a Fet guy will come and jum you yeah they will hold your arm and take it stretch and then they rob you a bad guy but you you can't believe that how much death skin they are taking from your your your color changes your face your skin color will so

good I've done you've done it you might be losing even weight they L take your skin out you know that's crazy like snake feel relax I'm going to try it if I go there for sure really know it does it depends on What you ask for if you tell that feel free will they will really har yeah yeah it's not like thae massage or body I've never done Tha massage I've heard that cry also like tough yeah is we have an experience me and him went in one Cory Cory so it was so funny so

he was the woman started like massaging and you could see she was like what the hell and then he starts going and then I'm like I'll start laughing and then They wereing and also they were laughing at us we came out crazy because the girls here there's like a massage section section in the hotel they said they do time massage on Friday and Saturday yeah I'm going to go for it but now I'm like you had a mass I had I had three massages tched By An Angel tched by an Angel that was the name

you have to remember here Fe is the Tie massagers they're usually not train masses whereas here they're probably Trained in massuse you train the massage kind of feels like you're in a WrestleMania dropping no way yeah yeah we experienc the sexual together thanks to the conf that's why I'm it's the only good side being together and spending time together having these unique unique experiences together hon like for me to be honest the the main one will be my own and actually it was the inspiration just I was thinking that instead of I go every country

how about every one comes From these so you to travel more Vis it was a selfish motivation that's let's get to Turkey let's get over there and have a good time yeah anyway talk next week was it the week after the Cy opening back up yeah we are opening it talk to me a little bit about that it's actually funny because I didn't open the gates for a year and I believe my scrapers and Pirates they have made more money than I do they just scrape everything they even Try to sell to my wife yeah

like they mess my wife by telling that do you want to cor course God they can you do something can you legally do something start not that much but also these people need money I know that a kind of when me I say no it's crap like go goost and legally we can't do that much and also many people respect our intellectual intellectual proper they they they support us that's right we Will be adding new lectures because for the last 12 months I was visiting every country preparing a new spe I was binding every spe

to the next one and I believe it is a unique thing I didn't see someone else was bounding every lecture to each other oh yeah you was saying that yeah yeah taking a recording and making it a course model because from Estonia to the Bulgaria to the Hungary to the Vietnam or Thailand every country that we were in including Poland There was a new bonded lecture to each other different projects with naked names so I made them a different lecture series we will also be adding New Concepts new recordings as well and we will be

releasing them gradually and I believe that people are excited for that after one year it will be really fun I believe that's very it's like a double double value so you are you were actually building your course but you know just it happens that you also Presented them to like as a conference yeah because that's good I believe maybe even over 5,000 people uh in total in one year we made speech to and everyone actually has only one part of it and if you want to see the full part you should come to come come

to the and the community and after the lectures we will be adding the or the conference speeches we'll be adding some new Concepts part by part and we will also be sharing the topical map feedbacks I guess people Will like it but I try to keep them very simplistic so it might confuse some so does this mean there going to be know 500 bloody hours out of I keep I keep them short as much as possible oh one thing when I keep it very short they ask extra questions and make it make it longer and

when I make it longer they also tell you that is a shorter version it's like just just this there's no wi there's no Wing there yeah that's why I'm also even thinking about Maybe I should have a long lecture and short lecture and they can choose whichever they want yeah it's like the burger with different type of meats like the issue is though like with the sh ones is then everyone then some of it leaves it to their own interet interation of it and then and then the run that way when it was that way

and so tough like we're in the the coor group and that is so active That coor group yeah because everyone understands something but also everyone understands an angle different and then they started discussing that's why Community Learning is important and that's why I try to keep things long so they can have the details yeah but whenever I keep it short I I'm sure that some people understand it differently that's why I didn't show my secreen in the first version because because I know that everyone will get a different Meaning from it now in the second

one this year we will be showing my sing because I know that they are prepared or more they will be understanding actually yeah yeah let me ask one more question to you all actually so what was your first job did you like it or did anyone fire you from that job to be honest my first job was working in a call center on minimum wage I can't imagine I know I was actually very very deep Accent what people work I am I would want my kids to have a job in a call center or just

dropping newspapers off and earning their own way at a young age or working in a fish market just doing something that I they really don't like yeah so that then their expectation of work is down here and when it's maybe on here the reality is there the Delta is happiness someone go get an amazing first job coming Working for yourself for it four days a week what an amazing place to work if they going try and get another job though days you're ruining them start another job whatever they do they expectations here the realities here

the Delta is unhappy it's our evil plan with people we they come in they are ruined their career is done they cannot work to any any other company because why would you have like five day work we can then you know like yeah we ruin people so What about you obviously you you was doing a lot of spraying yep so at age 16 because we didn't have money I didn't go to like high school or university I had to start working so I can have money so I was painting cars um and I enjoyed it

like you know painting car it's not just painting it's like you know when the car damage you have to do the lines you have to use you know body filler and then send it down and make the perfect lines the perfect shapes so you have to Literally feel the ripples of the of the body and then put body fer on Sand it down with sanding paper so it's like like an art I loved it pretty crazy about because no disrespects is just paint in a vehicle but the emotion that you just brought was needed and

like when he was telling me like I was I was the best paint sprayer yeah I was and people would travel to me out of town and come to to meor that passion enthusiasm is So for every I was I was looking at you know way wait waitress and the waiters I was thinking if I would be that I would be treating people like like kings and queens and even that even like a simple I mean Le not simple but even a job like a waitress or waiter can be done at this level or it

can be at this level like hi what can I do like hi how's your day what how can I help you everything can be done with passion and the person Doing it will enjoy it more anything yeah so my job so it's I didn't last long cuz I quit and it was primarily because of M dad in what he said to us so the job was stacking shelves of tesos 16 year old I lasted one day that's why I call you a princess I went home I went home and dad just went you you've got

no color you've lost all the color in your face like your Energy's gone and he went something very important for you to learn now is find Something you enjoy doing and then work out a way to get paid for it and then you'll never have to work with in life y yeah there then that's at the time I was I was you know I was young but I was still doing a lot of like website stuff but wasn't really getting much beer I was very young so there I went more into that nice what about

you cor what was your very first mine was a little bit different because since I'm coming from Turkish culture Things are a bit different and I actually I guess my first job was selling lemons in Bazaar I was yeah I had actually a kind of I don't know the English word like something like this a kind of box I say true yeah proba a bro I was putting the lemons take my [Music] lemons and I was just walking in the Bazar and I was trying to sell it because my father is from the southern Turkey

we have lots of orange farms and we were bringing some of the lemons and I just thought that I can actually sell this things was it to your Farms or was it just lemons to putting drinks on us to have a lemon just fruit eating or for food or anything you basically sell in theat it's not like a regular it's my own business basically yeah and the limits were was free for me since it is coming from the family no cost I was just taking the limits I was like I Guess just 8 years old

or something and a small kid basically just walked with the LM he not saying is his dad was buying the lemons at the supermarket and every bloody day D was going where the hell is me lemons gone I used to do that my very first job actually there's one this is at school I used to get my dad to buy me like um a pack of M bars got a five pack of mar bars and I take the full pack and like Mark and de mat Like where's all Mar bars oh dad must have took

them to work with him in my thing I'd go and sell him for like 20 P each like yes I P I'm own the old sh in the bra in my actually thanks to that I I I learned many things too because in the Bazar let say you walk and there is an an old guy and he also sells limits and he sees you as a threat since you're a small kid he just actually looks at you in a bad way and shows the direction to go then I Realized that actually selling in bulk by

doing a discount was very much easier I just went to the restaurants Kebab restaurants and I have shown all the mediterian fruits to them and they like it and I was selling all to the restaurants and then my father was asking questions like how do you sell these things so fast and I I just told that I'm selling to the Kebab restaurants and I learned that actually I'm selling for very cheap that my Father went to the Kebab Restaurant and told that this is very cheap don't feel any shame this just a k and then

I was increasing the prices then I was just selling a portion here another portion here they were telling me that this lemon that is not that good but it was like actually like a shower you know like he squeezing it and it's like just dripping in really huge amounts and then he he tells me I won't pay for this and then I say okay I'm about to exit and he Says hey stop I will I will pay ET so I learned to walk away from a deal yeah and for a kid was a really good

good thing there was also a funny thing I while I was selling lemons one family a lady told that actually I'm in a hard situation he just has given a money and didn't take the lemon and I was shamed but I was actually no I'm not doing it for that I'm just doing it for five so interesting experience I'm glad that it happened because it I believe This is a problem today's Z generation they don't do that much they don't have enough you know W wi enough experiences some bad stuff when you are little so

that you can be ready for the reality that expectation think because they watch Netflix and in the television Ser they see that an intern meets with the CEO then they solve a 20 years of problem then they become the manager of the entire region then they live in love with the CEO and these are stupid Scenarios and and when you look look at the actual reality you need to be an expert for one thing and it usually takes like 10 years and you need to show all the patients and you always need to stay calm

and she should protect the positive attitude as much as possible and I will try to pass this to the future generation from my family as much as possible as high like as you said like people don't go through enough things in life so they get get you know More like I don't know more resilient on things like when I was a child we have you know like traveler families you know on our street and we also had like lots of you know dogs and every time I went to the shop they like the the kids

of the traveling families were throwing we throwing stones at each other and then the dogs were running after me so he was like he was like a crazy experience there like you had to be you know adapting and running and doing things so It was like a crazy crazy childood I think people as you said just on a tablet you don't get to experience those they should in the ball a little bit and they should feel some pain because when I get my first I don't know the English word for it imagine that someone is

angry to you even if they are right or wrong but they just is superior and tell something bad to you you should be able to take it in digest it and keep doing the same thing you can't have any Resentment for instance and I believe it takes time to get these realities for the new gener over it sound for Su too forance I don't know maybe I am a I have endurance because when I was in the cin on N I remember that we had a launch and I worked like 36 hours non-stop then I

went to the house for sleeping with a private shur and 4 hours later the bus just called me wake me up called me back I went there and work another eight hours then I returned if it is important That for that moment we never say no and we just do it we were successful so it is worth that that's why maybe I was I don't know working like crazy in the white Industries because I couldn't see someone similar because they always have insurance or everything covers so well they don't have to be hardworking that much

actually to be honest indeed they give like they they just yeah if you're not being pushed with something you you don't have to develop that part of Resilience in your your mindset it's the Mind resilience is one of the most important mindset need I think we all need pain in our life yeah of course to build that resilience you cannot develop the character if you don't have pain any like pressure happens in Army too for when I was in Army it wasn't hard for me but many adults they're like let's say they are Judges and

every from every occupation they were about to cry they get everything like a resentment for my Commander if he say something something bad I just say yes commander yes commander yes sir just be humble yes it be not just I don't have another chance by the way it's true is the Army still mandatory in Turkey age one year or six months was in the six month section it was one of the hard situations to be honest but in a way I love it I I had many responsibilities there I am tested by many there was

a funny moment though for Instance I was a uh I don't know English sorry Pro Guardian for a passage and my let's say Lieutenant came and told me that even if a general comes here you won't allow them to pass I am just a regular Soldier and he expects me to say no to a general and SM so I was trying to handle both sides as did the general come oh yeah of course they come and they got past of course they also come like with private Guardians as well and you can say no like

EAS but the Turkish Arm it was like after the coup attempt and they were having some fractions and everyone is suspecting from each other and in the middle of entire Feud like because everywhere everywhere was full of bullets bullet holes because it was just after the cou attemp half of the Army is fired and everyone is trying to Al understand whether this guy is attached to somewhere and you are just a private Soldier there in the middle of all the everything it wasn't but to be Honest it was the hardest experience but perfect it it

helped me to understand humans better and it helped me to actually I believe my face shape CH face shape changed in six months it was stressful but it was the best experience that I can learn to be honest that's why I love this type of things actually I believe the other people don't have that that thing that's why they were crying complaining yeah trying to get health reports to exit the Army but I was okay With most of the things nice good yeah anything else but before then what we should call this episode we usually

choose the name inside 3% fery what what it's a nice name actually and we would like to name it after you actually yeah that's true okay two person delete and the three person fairy episode is ending here thank you very much thank you very much it was a great shot thank you thank you we're the three best Friends that anybody could have we're the three best friends that anyone could have we're the three best friends that anyone can have and we'll never ever ever ever ever leave each other