happiness through Curiosity on the ren show if we widen the lens a little bit the narratives that you hear in urban India about Europe are pretty dystopian you hear about this whole immigration problem how the locals are not happy with um the immigrants or the refugees uh in the last 5 to 10 years uh how true is that what's your Viewpoint uh what's the general future of Europe is it actually kind of the death of this long-term Empire because that's one of the narratives or is that just a cool thing to say for the non-european
world so it's not an Empire anymore it is definitely a richer Society um they have better institutions because they spent centuries looting the rest of the world and so so if there is good infrastructure it is thanks to our money right you want to watch you want to see uh an an old Indian artifact you will have to go to the British Museum of loot pay money and watch your own Heritage right uh but okay let's let's just say that what is gone is gone so they are they are better endowed than us in terms
of resources uh um immigration is a is a complex subject you know um on a human level if someone is running away from war we would want to help them uh but is your taxpayer ready to pay for because these are also societies where you get a lot of benefits if you don't have a job you get you get money you get handouts from the government you get housing and so on and where is that money coming from the taxpayers pocket right so if if you add people who are not actively contributing to your Society
or your economy but just adding to the burden then at some point the taxpayer is going to get up and say what's going on here that is one thing the second is the cultural makeup these are not multiethnic some of them are not they're they're used to seeing white people you can't say that for London anymore but so so you're seeing pockets of um in Europe where you don't see white Europeans and that unsettles some of them they call it xenophobia which it is but in some it's some for instance in France I think close
to 10% of the population is Muslim a lot of these people came from Algeria when France used to be the colonizer and there was this war and these people fought on the French side so they had to come now you have second third generation of those people they've not been able to completely integrate in the French society so they feel alienated hostility hostility they don't feel the they don't feel that they're part of the system I was in France last year where my Arab cab driver said that we don't speak to the white people they
don't talk to us so yeah maybe that's an so I'm saying that there are many layers to it right there are people who came as legit immigrants but their children have not been uh assimilated into the society as they should have been then there are people who are running away from Wars wars that the West may have contributed to if if Afghanistan is in a bad shape it's because you guys came and dropped what you call the mother of all bombs and did not think twice so where are those people going to go when the
ukrainians come to Europe you welcome them because they look like you blue-eyed golden haed but when Arabs come then you are not so sure that's one side of it and all of these are realities you can't say one is correct and one is not so there is the economic angle to it there is social and cultural angle to it and then there is a third dimension um Germany which used to be the the growth engine of Europe is now sluggish it has uh it is it's going to stagnate they use a term called d Don
flation they have these donor kebabs and the price has gone up and the opposition is saying that we should give a I think $4 million4 million euro subsidy so that kebabs can be subsidized because it's a German way of life and so on and so forth basically there is inflation there is not enough growth and it's an aging Society so going forward they will not have enough workers so unless they take people in from outside they will not be able to keep the growth engine going ideally they would like to take in people who add
value and do not add to the burden but that's not a choice that you can always make and somewhere you'll have to make up for your all your historical you know they're doing Italy is doing a deal with tunisha like appointing them as a bodyguard you don't let anybody from Africa come into Italy so they're just throwing money at the problem UK is giving money to Rwanda Tunisia is giving Italy is giving it to Tunisia that's not working out as they would like it to work out so people are still getting on board boats risking
their lives boats capsid people die just in the hope of finding a life in Europe that is a very sad reality you'll have to look at all of it um together to get a a sensible picture of what's Happening Vis A V immigration wasn't there a phase in history where um I think this is pre Crusades I actually don't know win because I've not studied medieval European history but uh Europe was majority Muslim at one point or parts of it parts of it Spain was I think right there is a theory I've read where uh
they say that it's becoming an extension of Arabia again I that's xenophobic Trope I have no biases here no I mean what do you mean by it become extension of Arabia yeah um Europe has benefited from The Riches of the rest of the world and now Europe will have to accommodate the rest of the world that is what it boils down to I mean look at Iran for instance they had oil reserves there was a time when what five odd big oil companies all of them based in the west had control over all the majority
of the known reserves and they tried to divide everything that was there amongst themselves took all the money plundered these lands now they can't turn around and say that everything that's happening there is your problem not ours hey if you enjoyed this clip from the RBI show we've uploaded a ton of other Clips related to a ton of other topics so explore the channel because there's something for everyone n [Applause] [Music]