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[laughter] [music] >> Know what happened over there in Cleveland, baby. Hey, listen. See how see how that perked me up real quick?
Hey, mystery love company, don't it? [laughter] >> Misery love company. Okay.
Respectfully, you funny. [laughter] >> Oh, yeah. It was a tough It was a tough one over there for us, Debo.
I'm not going to lie to you. >> Yes, sir. >> Long story short, I think it was mainly I mean, you I don't want to I don't even have to go play by play for real with the Browns game.
I really want to get to >> overall. >> Overall, how you think how how you think how you think Shador played overall? >> Overall, I think he did still good.
He he didn't play like he didn't play great. You know what I'm saying? He didn't play great, but at the same time, he's making steps.
Making steps. He's still going to be a starting quarterback. I think he you know what I'm saying?
A couple of passes that he overthrown. You know what I'm saying? They could have put on the money.
>> Man, I think I think maybe it was one, bro. I think it was really one that was like over, you know, >> one pass overthrown and then my thing is I just want him to stop um stepping back in the pocket some sometimes. You know what I'm saying?
Like I think he could just step up in the pocket, do a little bit a little bit better pocket awareness. But as far as him being able to be out there starting, 1,000%. He's looking good for me.
I >> I think he can make uh decisions a little quicker on in some situations. >> That's Yes. 1,000%.
When I'm saying the pop, >> but that comes with, you know, time with time. That comes with else, you know. >> So, with me, I'm I'm I'm loving what he's got going on.
I just need to keep keep working, keep grinding. >> This is more on the special like the special team sold on y'all. >> We can't we're we're not good enough to do that.
You know what I'm saying? like our defense going to be balling. >> 66 yd return to your 66.
>> Come on. How is that going to help? And then we when we finally trying to get a chance, we muff the joint at the 10 yard line.
Like >> this is not going to help us win games at all. So I think that's more we got to just clean up clean up all that. Defense, y'all keep doing what y'all got to do.
Offense, we got to run the ball. >> Well, it didn't help not not converting that fourth down either. I mean, you right there.
I think y'all was at the 30 32 something like that. They end up, this is the crazy thing. So, the special teams returned, they went to the 16.
>> Uhhuh. >> The turnover on the downs, which was a fumble, which it would still would have been a turnover at the 32. >> And then the muff punt at the 18.
All those led to touchdowns. That's 21 of y'all 26 points. >> Thank you, Debo.
Cuz it wasn't like they was, you know, our defense is solid. They just not out there getting muted. But if you get put in these messed up positions, something going to bend, something going to give.
You know what I'm saying? So, I think with the offense, if you can just clean that up, special teams, just don't do those turnovers. We have to play a lot cleaner.
You know what I'm saying? Like, we we don't have just that. We can't out talent you.
We got to be clean. We got to not make mistakes. We got to not turn over the ball.
And that's the way we going to keep it close. And we going to grind out these games. It's not we going to just blow nobody out.
We got to stay tight with that. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, you got you got you got one good thing going for You got a you got a defense that's that's playing and and playing at a playing at a high level, dude.
>> And ready. >> Jerry Judy, he he got into a little I guess confrontation with Shador right there on the sideline, you know, about whatever it was that was going on. Like do you do you like him having that energy for Shadore or do you like him not having that energy when he didn't have that same energy with with Flaco and and uh >> you've you've seen 75 footballs fly over your head and now you want to get mad at Shadore.
I'm like bro this is my whole thing. You know what Shador is going through right now. He's been alive.
This is only his third game plan. When Dylan was out there throwing ground balls, nobody was spazzing on this man, going up to him, talking to him crazy. Like, I just don't It just kind of rubs me the wrong way a little bit.
You can go holl at him. You know what I'm saying? You know he's trying, you know, he's trying to figure it out.
All the cameras are on him for show. And knowing you can get in the heat of the moment, but I'm like, Judy, is it because he overthrew the ball a little bit? Like, he's sitting there trying to talk to you.
You know, this a young quarterback. You're a vet in the league. You're his best receiver.
That's not going to help him in this situation. I would just hope you could kind of take him more under the wing. You had Dylan throwing you the ball in the dirt for a second and we not even coming close to >> not even coming close to and you didn't [ __ ] go over there and I didn't see the same energy you spazzing on him on the sideline.
You was letting him go talk to the coach and figure it out. He's trying to figure it out. That's just it just gave me like come on bro.
Like he's only his third second game starting. You're his best receiver. You didn't do that when you were getting ground balls previously the first of the six games.
That just doesn't it just made me not feel good because I'm like Judy I I like Judy. Judy you a good dude but you know what my young boy's going through. You know what I'm saying?
So like >> be there for him if that was your no matter who that's you. If that's not you if you can if you can be if you can show some compassion for Dylan show my man some compassion. That's all I ask.
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
So they tried to get Shador to to to to say something. I think we got the I think we got the sound. Let's play it.
>> How many on those fourth and one those two fourth and ones that didn't work? And did you like Kevin having the aggressiveness there even backed up in your territory? >> I mean, first that's a rude question to ask if I'm if I think you know it was a great call by my coach.
You know, >> you like the aggression. If you like the call, like do you like >> I like being out there playing. So, so, so whatever that comes with, it comes with, you know, like, you know, we we not gonna be here and and and ever point finger at no coach or do anything like that.
You know, that's extremely disrespectful and that's not even in my place. So, >> I'm thankful for being out there, honestly. And I'm thankful that he trusts as us as a offense to be able to go out there and be able to uh execute.
Did we execute? No, we didn't. But, you know, I'm just thankful that we have that trust.
>> You see, you see what he's saying there, bro? You see what he's saying there? He's saying, "We didn't execute.
We didn't that we we we didn't do that. I'm I'm I'm thankful. " You know what our responses was yesterday?
We don't know. Why? Because you can't you can't say nothing.
He He did He did the right thing. We did the right thing. Our our players did the right thing.
But why is it that you believe they keep trying to get Shador to take off though? >> Clickbait, Debo. Clickbait.
They trying to go viral. They know soon as Shador say something, anything he does is viral. And these Cleveland people, they know they going to get they going to get a sound bite.
They're doing it for a sound bite. They're trying to get him to say something and just get him in trouble or try to have him him against Kevin. Outside world, we know.
We see how Kevin treats him. Hey, good game over there, Shador. You know what I'm saying?
Like, we don't have he don't have to go out there and say it. Everybody else is saying it for him. So, if he's out there and like does it, then it's going to make it even more crazy.
Shador is really just trying to go out this thing and play the quarterback position. I'm happy to be on the field. Thank you, Shador.
That was the most perfect response to the question that Buddy was asking cuz it's like at the same time I wasn't out there. Now I'm geeked. I'm I'm I'm on the field.
I'm playing. That's the main thing is the main thing. You trying to get me caught up with the coach.
Y'all know what's going on with the coach. Like y'all do y'all think I'm going to call? I'm I'mma leave that to y'all.
I'm not This not my position. I'm just happy to finally be out there with coaches letting me play. He knows my name.
I'm not about to sit here and talk trash about this man. You tripping. Yeah, I I don't think I don't think that's the you know, you you just can't do it, especially when you're playing on the team.
You know, even with you know, Aaron, you know, I [clears throat] think he called out the unnamed uh you know, receiver that I guess wasn't going to to the meetings or you know, you know, you you can't do that cuz now everybody's looking. They want to know who it is. You know, even if that is the case, you know, you >> do you know who it was, Debo?
>> I have no clue. >> Do you have an inkling? >> I have no clue.
[laughter] I don't look at the offense. I look at the defense. >> Okay.
>> Who you think Who you think it was? >> I And I don't just just going to say it. >> I think it was Smith.
I think it was uh 81 Johnu. >> I just think so cuz you see how frustrated he was when he threw the post on that second and goal and he ran a seven route. Oh, he was spazzing.
>> You know what I'm saying? Like he's like, "Yeah. " And then some people they run the right.
So I'm like this. Ah, >> but you know from from from what I what what I hear um you know here and there I hear hell some of the coaches leave fast as the players do. >> You know I don't I don't know.
I've never heard nothing like that. I mean the coaches are usually the ones that's there till >> too late. >> Too late.
>> Not not co not coach T though. Not coach T. >> Not coach T.
I'm not talking about Coach T, but I'm just saying like come on. That's that's what that obviously you hearing the same thing I'm hearing, >> man. you know, so >> I feel like we be in the same room sometimes.
>> I don't know what's going on, but I mean, again, coaching. >> Yeah. >> Good coach.
>> I just Good coach, great coach, bad coach. >> No, I'm just a coach. A bad coach go tell you the wrong things to do.
I don't think we got no bad coaches. We got coaches. We got coaches.
I don't know. Well, again, like you said, we hear things and they're being told different things for the same assignment by different coaches. So, is that just purposely telling you the wrong thing or just not no knowledge of the whole understanding of it?
>> Yeah. I it it would have to start from the top and I would just the coaches got to buy in to whatever they're they're trying to do. You know what I'm saying?
Like everybody has to be teaching the same thing. If they're teaching something that they don't like and the other coach like this, man, I used to do it like this where I'm from. So like, you know, I'm like this.
That's how you're gonna have the team jacked. >> Yes. >> And I say that's what I remember cuz I'm not no disrespect.
My the DB coach I had coach scrap. I love him to death, but they would always talk about what they did in Penn State. I'm like, nobody gives a [ __ ] what y'all did at Penn State.
>> No, >> we're right here right now. That's what get us beat. I don't care what they did.
You know what I'm saying? So like if that's that that's real life. You got to have all your coaching staff bleeding together.
This is what like if if the if your defensive line coach has to go a no matter who tells you it. Period. >> A is a that's all.
So like >> we don't have that. It's confusion. >> Telling you >> where there's confusion, there's just disruption.
>> There's gray there. You can't have gray. >> There's gray.
Too much gray. It's too much gray. >> It's like Yeah, that gray.
No, man. What? What are we doing here?
>> What color is that? Black or white? Ah, it's gray.
No, >> no, it's gray. Oh, no. Oh, I got This is gray.
This is a couple grays, dude.
