all right we're going to start with the historical look at the cosmology of cultures and religions again this had a rousing soundtrack so I'll just have to talk through it I'm a animator illustrator by trade so and your animation did not play if you guys have seen flat-out insights this is what happens on every episode so doing a live presentation there's a lag you got it okay let me try got it this dual clicker thing hey listen we may need you to punch that on there now we're going to do this in 40 minutes so
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historical look at the cosmology of cultures and religions this animation shows the different look of the cause the cosmological ideas of various cultures if you'll notice they look very similar and and we're going to look at the different the different cultures as as we move on okay so you're looking at the Babylonian the Hebrew Norse Taiwan and not only that their cosmology governed the map all right each one had their own version of the map but if you look at that the map all looks similar very interesting these weren't a unified people okay so let's
move on next slide okay one of the best ways to explore an ancient culture is to observe there are artistic expression any good archeologist knows this because they didn't have print or magazines or anything like that so they recorded who they are and what they believe through their art next all right so we have here the Babylonian cosmology and I'm coming to a point here so just play close attention to how they Illustrated their world next then we have the Celtic Irish cosmology look at this is fascinating next Hindu NORs with four and all this
stuff and they actually called their dome the Bifrost next and then you have the Hebrew cosmology now separated by culture vast distances in time all right separated by all of these walls yet they all had the identical cosmology now what I love about this is modern science says oh they were just ignorant people all right they didn't know anything okay yet they all had the same cosmology and some people say when they travel across the world and proselytize have you ever heard of a Viking proselytizing okay when they landed on your Shores they weren't saying
please believe in Thor no all right they're gonna get you so so look at all the distances and the cultural distances all right but they had all the same same cosmology next so see if you can go back to the regular PowerPoint that's a slide 11 so see if we can get there because that will not work the way we just did that oh you figured it out nice maybe Liz should be up here speaking yeah so Michael what Michael had just showed is that the whole entire world believed in a cosmology that was not
a sphere earth it was not a heliocentric model right it was a everything was in closed cosmology everything was based upon a flat earth with a dome over it it was everybody knew this right so when did things start to change and that's where it begins to get very interesting you start to see the sixth century a BC you start to see this is when Pythagoras jumps onto the scene and he starts supporting the idea of a sphere earth like I said we're gonna be going through much much more detail in this fifth century every
century a new layer a new Avenue started to build upon the idea and it started with the early Greeks and the Romans you start to see this and it was all based upon a very simple premise that we're gonna show you why the deception is so heavy Aristotle fourth century very famous obviously right this is when he was believing that the earth was not even of great size so this is the foundations of the early forms of the heliocentric model then you've got third century the earth is a sphere even with all the flat levelled
water right and Ian's ideas starting to form from there then you have the occultus Aristophanes right this is a big famous one this is the one that we all get right everywhere we go everybody's talking about obelisks who here knows one obelisk is everybody right I'm just speaking to this listing right so an obelisk right but if you know what an obelisk really is it is the occult symbol of their God their phallic symbol of Nimrod and what did they do well the shadows of it dictate it the circumference of the earth I believe it
was around 28,000 he came up with and yet we now know it's about twenty four thousand nine hundred correct right so by the time we continue to move on it just keeps growing and growing every every year a new layer a new layer something to break down this model of what everybody in the world believed my time you get to the second century you just start to see it just continue to build every thousand every hundred every couple you know thousand years hundred years it's always changing by the time we get to Strabo this is
where we start to see the biggest thing that is the proof now we're actually starting to get proofs as this history or this timeline goes on ships over the horizon you know as they this one is still used to this day Strabo you know next one will be plutonium a and you know all this is about you know map making this is about you know the early forms of ships over the horizon all the things that are still used today that are not provable can you see at the beginning of the preconditioning and it's it's
horrible but extremely well designed and it all started back then yeah and there's a reason there's a method in that and and we're gonna talk about what we believe is taking place here now we're moving into ad so after the time of Christ we start to see even now the Church Fathers are starting to just briefly adapt this version which has not even been fully adaptable yet based upon early church will flash forward to the 5th and 7th centuries it's being more elevated into the church and it's being brought out much much more by the
time you know which is interesting discovering Islamic cosmology we all would say from the Quran it's a flat earth book but their origins are based on Hellenistic astronomy which is globe based which is very interesting and has a very important part in history in which we can only touch a little bit on all this stuff you've got of course Magellan he didn't prove that the earth was a globe but he circumnavigated it right this is their proof so they've got ships of the rising now they've got circumnavigation it's becoming a closed case so by the
time you get to the 16 century the sir the third model of Copernicus revolution of his model on his deathbed he revealed the full plan that we have today which has been taking place all the way back as we can see from the early as a six century by the 16th century we've got the full church fully now not only rejecting initially but fully adopting it so by the seventeen eighteenth century it's in our school systems by the Jesuits Jesuits put these into the school systems start pumping out these things you're an idiot you're a
if you even just consider it even back then we're gonna go much deeper a little bit here in a second but as you see it by the time you get to the 19th century there was only a small amount of Bible believing Christians who they feared would protest this are even still remaining to be flat geocentric and then of course we get to today US government great they ended the debate and they put a man on the moon they showed us pictures okay guys we can all go home now so it's all over it's all
done it's right so you know that that that little short line is extremely short but one thing that most people do not talk about is the Zohar who here knows what the Zohar is okay so the Zohar is Jewish mysticism it's Kabbalah it is pretty much every aspect in realm what is behind every thing there it is a satanic agenda they were pumping out in the Zohar fifteen hundred years before the Copernican Revolution so you can predate that in the timeline which it's not in there they were writing specifically about how the earth spun on
its own axis and that the earth was a globe have you seen the scientists nowadays and and you've seen those videos where they go into video and they say the Zohar had had modern heliocentrism all those years back how do they do that in a handle modern science it's the occult thing that's just infiltrated science that's all it was so I'm gonna tell you guys one thing so we come from a biblical background so if you guys are in here officially you're gonna get a lot of Bible coming up so all right I'm gonna get
that out of the way so Nathan Thompson is in the other room talking about not eating meat so you are you saying here about so use your choice God creates Satan steals he can't create he has to manipulate everything he steals all these good things everything that you see that is Satanic li out there he has stolen there is an aspect of lair of truth to what he does and he has to and then he actually takes everything that he does and flips it and does of a complete reversal so as we can move on
to this next slide let me see if these things are this is the Kabbalah okay so if you guys have heard of the Kabbalah that exactly what the Zohar is and so we don't have time to go exactly into every detail of Kabbalah but this is that satanic agenda that started way long ago before that timeline happened which is still the route it cost so every time you see a cult symbolism in NASA it is a prelude to what their gods and what their deities are which is centered around Kabbalah Jewish mysticism and ace very
satanic organization so whatever we're talking about Freemasonry whether whatever realm we're talking about is all centered around this and that's what they show us and that's what is truth all right so the struggle for truth continues so with with that background knowledge how did we end up where we are today as far as large amounts of people actually fighting the heliocentric model so what you see here are all the books not all the books but but but many books of flat earthers written back in the 1800s and these guys were prolific okay and they wrote
all kinds of books talking about the Flat Earth and contradicting heliocentrism let's be clear on something this is not a resurgence the movement that's existing now and yes I dare call it a movement because back in before 2015 if you google Flat Earth you would get about 50 hits but but by the time what two years later twelve million okay and then it ended up 23 million before YouTube slammed us down so this is not a resurgence this is a continuance we're simply continuing what these guys did what they tried tried to do in the
1800s all right so what I did was I went to the Library of Congress and I did a very short go ahead I did a very short search a simple search from 18 and my results yielded from 1848 to 1996 these are some of the titles William carpenter 100 proves that the earth is not a globe 1885 Walter Davenport they called me flathead yes they were doing that in 1927 all right and this guy was a newspaper he had a newspaper stand all right and he was talking about Flat Earth out a newspaper stand next
okay Charles II Deford a reparation universal gravitation a universal fake 1992 Alex Gleason most of you know him who created the mat okay that we all use what most of us anyway is is the Bible from heaven is the earth a globe 1893 Henry a Goudy earth not a globe scientifically geometrically philosophically demonstrated over 75 arguments and 30 diagrams 1930 this book is huge okay and you can get all these books for free by the way Carl Albert Smith is the earth a whirling globe I love that one 1901 and terra firma the earth not
a planet proved from scripture reason and fact 1901 go ahead the movement to reveal true cosmology did not start in 2015 I love it when they say that oh how the all this silliness started this stuff was going on long before any of us were born alright so when they tell you that that's just foolishness okay so before I go into this I'm gonna share a little bit about my background and where we where I came from I was actually taught the geocentric model of Earth in my high school so the high school that I
was privileged to go to in the 1990s I was under a science teacher who taught the geocentric model of Earth he did not teach Flat Earth but he did let us know he we are the center of the universe and we do not move I learned that simple principle from Scripture as well as science and he taught us in that science textbook that he created the very first thing is how they manipulate us in us with media it's with TV newspapers movies and right there in the beginning of your science curriculum that's how your curriculum
starts I think if we started our science curriculums with that today we'd be somewhere in science so second when I first learned the earth was flat I told my wife I said the earth doesn't move and she said well yeah no no course not so what are you talking about oh I was taught that in high school what she never told me okay until I came to tell her and earth was flat so my wife was sitting back there actually learned the same thing where I was and so me and my wife and there's another
person here that went to our same a high school as well the flat geocentric model was the dominant view obviously we went through some of these things and what this actually caused and did was caused by believers to read the Bible instead of literally had to become new figuratively as we adopted this heliocentric model we changed how we actually read scripture as Bible believers for many years the majority of Protestants still held on to this geocentric view even when the Flat Earth model was becoming obsolete and I'm gonna show you that and that is so
important to where we're at today most people you know we just look at geocentric and say they just believe half of the truth right but they were very important to where we are today and I'm gonna talk a little bit about that you know obviously they didn't in the Catholic Church I talked a little bit about that that was 1632 so if we go back to our timeline when they started to fully embrace all these things the next rise of geocentrism and Flat Earth Michel covered that in those 18 periodicals what Michael did not cover
is what was taking place and that was all the experiments all the experiments by who by the heliocentric by the people who believed in the sphere and they failed every single one of them these are the most prestigious ones we've got Aries failure it's not called eerie success its aries failure starlight moves the telescope remains stationary we got the Mickelson Morley experiment we talked a little bit about that no rotation of Earth we got the Mickelson Gale experiment and if you guys are gonna want to learn much more about these you go to Bob Modell's
talks and the famous gyroscope Netflix stuff and he's got some amazing things that he'll he'll talk about about that then we've got the SAG net experiment none of these proved the rotation of Earth none of them these were the same experiences I was learning about in high school that were failing and they did fail we've got the the Bedford level was more of a curvature test and that also failed by Rowbotham as well but what happened what what what occurred well the debunking began and obviously we all know this as the realm of the theory
of relativity just like the theory of gravity the big bang theory yes again we have a theory I thought a idea based upon math which can be proven if you're the hypothesis is your starting point that's in your brain chew on that for a while this theory was determined that the laws of physics are the same for all non accelerating observers and he showed that the speed of light within a vacuum is the same no matter the speed at which an observer travels this is how he proved all the things that Mickelson morley Gail did
we can't reveal that so we're not gonna talk about it here's how we are going to just silence all of those tests however all the previous experiments proved otherwise just like the theory of evolution this one has become our dominant view still in our textbooks and all of our students all of our kids learn the theory of relativity and they actually don't even know why it was truly put out there Einstein even said that the based upon the Mickelson Gale experiment he said it was quite an embarrassment to the scientific community and he's even said
out of his mouth that no experiment could prove the spin of the earth only his theory so now we get to my favorite part which is the resurgence of modern geocentrism 1967 Walter van de Kamp he was a Canadian man he traveled down to the Ohio area which I'm gonna say is very important because me and Michael happened to be both from Ohio so keep that in mind and it's gonna come into play extremely important here he published a paper called heart of the matter and in the heart of the matter he presented the geocentric
model of Earth and he presented it to prestigious men which wasn't very important he formed the Tycho nyan society that Tycho nyan society put out a bulletin that bulletin is known as The Bulletin of the Tycho nyan society it was a publication just like the earth is not a globe that was presented in the 1800s this one was going around teaching the truth of Geo centricity all throughout the world and they were pumping that out nineteen eighty-four van de Kamp retired and this is where it gets really interesting Gerardo's bo he was a professor of
Case Western Reserve later baldwin-wallace university those are two prestigious schools in Ohio he was the head of astronomy and well while ahead of astronomy was pumping out the world's most sophisticated defense of geocentric all throughout nineteen eighty-four to about 2014 when he finally truly just ended up retiring but that was called the biblical astronomer you can go to their websites called geo centricity dot org and you can go there and find over 2 million PDFs they have defending that the earth does not move based upon science every single one of the men that worked with
der artists happened to be all prestigious men of colleges you know so all of us maybe hey we're a novice you know we study these things we repeat these things these are the guys that ran heads of astronomy programs and they were they were saying half of what we're saying and they were very good at it so you see they have a lot of books that you can go check out other geo centrists include even some of the people that were here last year debating Raab scheme on stage was dr. Sun Janis so this is
what I call the Cleveland connection of the geocentric if you guys didn't know the Mickelson Morley experiment happened at Case Western Reserve what is now known as Case Western Reserve we have professors James Hansen he was of Cleveland State we had George Bo who's Case Western and Baldwin Wallace then we had the publication the biblical Strom were produced right there in Cleveland going all around the world that and that was doing that you've got our high school here it is Christian school so if you're watching me there it is and that was absolutely amazing and
then of course you've got now me and Michael and take on the world conference so for although you can't take on the world conference you can give a shout out so there you go there you go so Cleveland is what I call the mecca for modern geo centricity and it was so important to get to where we're at today and and the reason why is you know when they when you go back to the the Galileo who's seen the the Galileo space probe that was pointed at the earth about three million miles away who've seen
that everybody should in here see if you're flattered that you should have seen that right and that shows the earth spinning and rotating but the what is the one problem with that video is the clouds never move over a 24 hour time laughs right okay now what does the geocentric person say when they see that well go back to my notes in high school how do they manipulate us with TV with movies with video right they would say that is a lie but when they see a picture of the earth hmm what did they say
well here's my challenge if there's any geocentric people watching this if you're here today or you're watching this on alive let's go through some challenges there if you're a Bible believer this is absolutely crucial the fundamental aspect of the heliocentric model which is so foundational is that the Sun comes before the earth and if that foundation is off the whole thing is off okay first line of the Bible if you guys believe the Bible says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth what came first the earth right the earth Kafer yeah they
haven't yeah heavens and earth but what came first heaven or the or the Sun or the earth right we know the Bible teaches that the earth came first those two things are at odds and at war at each other are ready on day four he created the Sun if you reject if you hold to a heliocentric model as a believer your stance already rejects the opening line of the Bible that's my challenge to all the geocentric people who are still clinging and holding on to this while adapting aspects and parts of heliocentrism your model is
already basic and it's already off if that line is off how much of the whole entire book is off we might as well just throw it out we just might as well throw out the Bible can I say a quote yeah the Bible in heliocentrism are unreconciled ball unquote you know said that neil degrasse tyson okay he actually admitted that because there's contradictory they cannot meet up so if Genesis 1:1 is off so is John 1:1 if you guys don't know what John 1:1 says in the beginning was the word and that word in Greek
is the logos the logos is Jesus says in the beginning was the word and that is Jesus Christ and it says and the Word was with God and the Word was God this is a prelude to creation right here in the book of John and so when you take Genesis 1:1 off you might as well throw away John 1:1 and so many people in that whether it be a creation ministry any of those creation ministries who believe in John 1:1 they actually don't even believe Genesis 1:1 because they automatically throw it off with their belief
in the heliocentric model if your model puts the Sun first then by default it rejects the Sun that brings salvation and that is absolutely true if you believe if you believe that the earth is young and came before the Sun while the holding on to the rest of heliocentric model you neither have a biblical model nor a scientific model you have your own version that can't be supported by either one you have your own little mesh up in your head which I'm sorry to say it Answers in Genesis creation you know every creation ministries you
know this is your stance you have your own version you have and that is that can't be supported by either one okay so with that in mind what brings us here today what brings us here and here okay with all these guys talking about the flatterer simple okay we finally reals long realize they're all lies fantasy deception fill in the blank okay so we all finally realized that and the second point is then we learn how to discover and share the truth on our own alright so we stopped just listening to the scientific world and
just taking the word for it we learned how to figure this out ourselves without a degree and don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with with going to university and studying and stuff like that our problem down unless it's astrophysics cuz that's just like learning Klingon okay astrophysics is not a science at all alright but I don't have anything against that but you don't need it in order to realize where you live to realize what creation is all right so three points we can actually learn where we live through photography simple forest forensic
editing and eyes open common sense alright so let's look at the first one I'm just gonna go through three proofs that that I shot myself all right so we have here ye o bull on a horizon okay so this is a real common proof here you can play that so I started out at 2000 millimeter with the official flat earth camera alright and Nikon actually knows that that's why they came out with an upgrade alright so the official p900 I started out with two thousand millimeter I stopped at fifty this I'm trying not to make
this a photography lesson but when you do this test don't stop at 24 millimeter because that's not what your eye sees okay stop at 50 so you won't get your dissenters in or you didn't do that experiment right alright so you can start at two thousand or with the p1000 start at 3000 but you stopped at 50 because that's equivalent to the proportions that your eye sees alright yet you see nothing okay the boat is not you you can't see it but I can zoom in on it what does that mean no curve then that
leads you on a logical domino effect of conclusions so but we have to be willing to embrace those conclusions next all right now we have this image this video from the Hubble telescope they put some of these labels on here to show the constellations and all that stuff and they're all pagan names isn't that interesting so then the Hubble telescope zoomed in I got this straight from the NASA website zoomed in on these constellations trillions and trillions of miles away first of all I didn't know the Hubble telescope was a zoom lens all right so
then we're zooming in but then what I did okay it stops here and then we go on to the don't don't it's gonna continue all right so then I simply increase the contrast a little bit okay and this is the forensic part so I increase the contrast a little bit as you can see as it zoom in instance constellations you see those lines around it okay so they're basically taking stills look at those borders you're basically taking stills and simply enlarging them to make it looks look like look at that okay to make it look
like they're zooming in on all these constellations that you can literally see back in time that's what they say we can see can anyone read my tag back there no I mean the little letters can you read that shame on you because you can actually see constellations trillions of light years not miles light-years if you can do that you should be able to read this but you can't okay it's downright foolishness all right so next okay so fake video all right that's really the conclusion it's not real so that leaves you on the time no
effective conclusions that you have to embrace that all right so this was shot at the last take on the world these are called crepuscular rays one of my favorite evidences of a close Sun so you have here some beans that's called crepuscular rays coming through the clouds now according to science the reason why you see this is because it's perspective alright because you see how you can play that you you you see how you see the railroad tracks converging into the distance right we've all seen that and as you move and you are no longer
lined up with the tracks you cease to see that that that convergence okay that's called what a single point perspective okay next all right now what makes crepuscular rays next you have three parts obstruction proximity and particulates the obstruction are the clouds the proximity of the Sun to the clouds and then particulates which is dust in the air fog mist that sort of thing so basically the only way you can get crepuscular rays with clouds you can get it in the theater I've set up lights where I have to actually create these the light source
has to be close to the obstruction it has to be very close okay or you're not going to get the light beam spreading out like that so what does that mean perspective is not involved at all all right that means you have to have a closed light source a lot closer than 93 million miles away a lot closer so that means the Sun is actually within the forgive me I don't have another word atmosphere okay the Sun is within the clouds it is not 93 million miles away that leaves you on a serious domino effect
guess what if if this is actually true solar system doesn't exist kills it no solar system if there's no solar system there's no space okay so it's a real easy conclusion to make if you're willing to make it next okay so now we've we've reached the point in the ending of this presentation so we're gonna quickly wrap this up because it looks like we're getting out of time here if we take it back to the beginning I said that remember Satan doesn't create he just manipulates what is already existing so what is the true purpose
everybody talks about when we come into Flat Earth we talk about their hiding God right that's the most common thing we always hear hiding God or they're hiding more land hiding more resources or there's there's a spiritual component there's a physical component worldly component let's talk a little bit about that the key to understanding in closed cosmology I believe lies within the beginning of creation within creation itself when the world was actually created that is a passage in Genesis and as Genesis 1:14 and it says and God said Let there be lights in the firmament
what are those lights it is the Sun the moon and the stars they're inside of the firmament not outside of them it says in the firmament they move the Bible tells us those things are the things moving those are the things that are detecting the mickelson Gale experiment actually didn't prove that the earth moved it actually proved the celestial bodies moved Bob knodell actually proved that the celestial bodies move he didn't prove that the this gyroscope fail experiment proved that the earth spun and right I mean come on ridiculous it says they were there to
create or to divide the day from night and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and for years guys that word from oh the word for season here doesn't necessarily mean summer winter spring and fall that word for seasons wheeze mo ed the MOA team and it says it is for the appoint at times he points at feast meeting times that the creator of this cosmos has for you what are they one of them is Passover where Jesus shed his blood for you unleavened bread where Jesus was buried for three days
and for three nights the feast of weeks which includes firstfruits in Shaba whoa where Jesus is resurrected he ascends and since his Holy Spirit why is this important hold on yeah I should do the clicker let's see if that works okay that would be better why is this so important because guess what science tells us science says that we are in this heliocentric model where we have new constellations coming in all the time which we've never seen them yet we are getting closer to Suns new things are gonna appear new all these things are gonna
be happening all these things are being developed changing our cosmology changing his cosmology from the beginning which has a purpose and a plan throughout history Passover unleavened bread for feast of weeks have been proven by the Sun Moon and the stars and the rotations on point every time every year all the time always perfect now there's calendar debates but hey they always fall perfectly in time all the time throughout that model they're not just hiding God there's something else that they're hiding it's much more because the fall feast reveal something much different they are the
day of trumpets the final return of Jesus the day of atonement where Jesus eliminates sin by Satan for a thousand years you have socotra Jesus dwells with man for a thousand years and you have the eighth day where a new heavens and a new earth begin the final resting point this is the this is the purpose of the MOA Dean that were created in creation based upon the Sun Moon and the stars and their movement everything that can be proved that we see in our life has been shown this is that they are the redemption
of your soul so every time you look up those and you actually believe in the Bible you can look up those and actually rejoice in your salvation because they've been created for that and what is known as our Blessed hope which is his return they're not just hiding God they're hiding that there is a God coming back for you you know I challenge you this is our challenge today is if you do not know him the point of this conference this year on top it was finding the creator in creation now I know a lot
of people have different thoughts different opinions we happen to believe that the one that lines up perfectly to these MOA Deen based upon the Sun Moon and the stars happens to be him and his name is Jesus Christ Yeshua HaMashiach and if you do not know him today is your day of salvation comes meet with one of us Nathan Reynolds any of those of us that you know you know are out there and you want to pull aside just come see one of us and we will be doing a full two to three-hour presentation where
we'll go much deeper into so many other things on that presentation so I don't know if you have anything that you want to share one thing I would like to say we're not talking religion here we're not talking about go to church in a pastor okay when I talk about that we're talking about an actual relationship with the individual with the individual they created all of this a personal one-on-one relationship where you talk to him and yes he does talk to you that's what we're taught that we're discussing here forget religion we're talking on a
relationship with the creator himself where he involved himself in his life and he wants to use and share that power that he has with you that's what we're talking about here thank you so much [Applause]