Michelle Obama when she was first lady, she had multiple stories that she would tell about as first lady being discriminated against because of her race. If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color, I try to make it a point. One of them was she was in line for ice cream.
Someone cut in front of her. She told this story in some interview dramatic story about well they didn't see her cuz she's black and meanwhile it's like lady people have cut in front of all of us. It's just that if it happens to me at Walmart I don't think of it racially.
I just think, "Oh, this person's anshole. " But for her, it's all racial. And yes, you can be a black woman.
You can be smart and educated and beautiful and sexy and interesting. To say that someone cutting in front of you a selfish act is somehow racist. That's like looking for racism.
The Michelle Obama story didn't get interesting just because Joe Rogan started talking. It got interesting when people realized where the conversation was heading before he even made his point. One observation changed the entire tone.
And suddenly people were debating much more than just Michelle Obama. Was Rogan setting up a bigger argument on purpose? Did he know exactly how people would react?
And why does the final part of his argument matter so much? I was listening to your take on the White House UFC card being the end of MAGA and that the moment when that guy said Michelle Obama is a man. Yeah.
Well, it's just the greatest thing for if you're a deep deep hardcore. Michelle Obama could win too if she wanted to do it. You don't think so?
I I don't I think that's kind of this you sound like your parents. I think that's his boomer idea. She doesn't want it.
I'm not saying that she would be awesome at it. Um but I think I think anyone can win of either party. Whoever the nominee is like you pretty even Chris Christie could have won if he's the Joe Rogan has never been easily impressed by celebrity perfection.
Meanwhile, Michelle Obama has spent years being presented as the perfect example of it. She was the first lady, a best-selling author, a wellness advocate, a polished public speaker, and eventually one of the most recognizable women in America. On the balcony, Michelle Obama and she comes on a on a cord that she flies over.
If Michelle Obama had made an Undertaker like entrance and got in the stage and then body slam like, can you imagine? Unbelievable. That would have been amazing.
The country just exists for ratings now anyway. [laughter] It's all it exists for. It's just that's all we're doing anymore.
That would have been unbelievable. Stealing the entire time. Michelle Obama comes down.
You see Trump Trump starts doing his dance. He's doing his Trump dance. Michelle Obama comes down.
She's got a cape. But behind that polished image, Michelle has openly talked about feeling insecure, exhausted, frustrated, and under emotional pressure. She has also shared moments of self-doubt.
For a comedian like Rogan, that creates an interesting contradiction to explore. I will not run for president. Yeah, I heard you say I think Michelle should run.
She could win. She could win. I think I think if she ran, she could win.
Do you ever run for office? I have to ask it. No.
No kind of office. No. I don't think she wants that though.
I don't think she wants that in her life. The bull that they dealt with over the eight years there when he was president. Cuz I've got these two young people at home being the kids, the daughters of a president.
Just think about [music] it. Not so easy. that job for anybody that like really would be really really good at it.
Yeah. I trust the person who doesn't want the job more than the person who wants the job. It's not something that I'm interested in or would ever do ever.
Because when someone spends years talking about how difficult life has been while also being celebrated as one of the most successful people in the world, sooner or later someone will ask an uncomfortable question. How much of that struggle is genuine? And how much has become part of the Michelle Obama brand?
Before CO, I would have told you that vaccines are the most important invention in human history. After CO, I'm like, I don't think we went to the moon. I think Michelle Obama's got a dick.
I think pizza gate is real. I think there's direct energy weapons in Antarctica. [cheering] I'm just kid I'm just kidding.
I don't think Michelle Obama's got a dick, but I believe all that other roast gets interesting. Michelle has openly discussed her anxiety, self-doubt, and emotional struggles, which many people appreciate about her. But she's also a former first lady, a best-selling author, and a global public figure with enormous success.
That contrast creates an opening for comedy. Rogan's style often involves questioning public figures and challenging the images society builds around them. He asks, "What happens when you look past the inspirational speeches and polish celebrity image to see the person behind them?
" Shocking or when he said Michelle Obama is a man. [laughter] Which one was more shocking? Uh, definitely the armbar part.
Man, I [laughter] I work in politics. People say crazy stuff all the time. Well, he says that every fight, does he?
Yeah. Yeah, he said it. He said that the last time I interviewed him.
Oh, man. Well, it's He's like a pro wrestling character. People lost their minds about it.
I know. Lost their minds about it to the point where again I had the view either the next day or the day after to sort of promote this book. Michelle Obama's public image is so polished that even her personal struggles have become part of her brand.
She often turns moments of anxiety, insecurity, and exhaustion into lessons about confidence and perseverance. But there's an amusing contradiction here. Every difficult experience can become an inspirational story, a book, a podcast, or a viral clip.
That's where a Joe Rogan style roast gets interesting. Rather than accepting the inspirational message at face value, Rogan's style involves questioning what lies beneath it. And Michelle's life offers plenty to examine.
From her remarkable achievements and public attention to the pressure and vulnerability she has openly discussed, bizarre conspiracy theory behind Michelle Obama memes. Now, this is another one. When I see this and I see people saying that she's a man, all that, I'm like, "Oh, China got to you.
" If they can get you to think that Obama's married to a man. And by the way, if I was China, I would kill the chef. Yeah.
Oh, he drowned. I would send in some Chinese Navy Seals to grab that dude. Keep pushing him down, push his head down, put him out, put him out underwater, and then just just leave him there.
Maybe pull his pants down. The satire becomes interesting when ordinary struggles are discussed by someone living an extraordinary life. Michelle Obama has experienced enormous success.
From living in the White House to writing best-selling books and gaining millions of admirers, that doesn't mean her emotional struggles aren't real, but the circumstances matter. A Joe Rogan style roast would likely focus on the difference between feeling overwhelmed by fame and dealing with everyday hardships like struggling to pay for groceries. Both experiences can involve stress, but pretending they are the same would miss an important distinction.
And then we live in a culture where people with power prey on fear to get more power. Again, she's talking about very clearly demonization of black people by white people so they can get more power. She's talking about Trump.
I want to make you all afraid of each other. How does he do that? How?
How? It's She really needs to take a hard look at the Democratic party, which is obsessed with skin color. upset.
Michelle's willingness to discuss her struggles was meant to make her seem more relatable, and in many ways, it worked. But the more she explained the difficulties behind her polished image, the more noticeable the contrast became. Here was a woman who had achieved extraordinary success, but still sometimes question whether she was doing enough.
Those feelings are completely human, but her life is far from ordinary. That's why the story is more interesting when viewed through contradiction rather than simple criticism. The bigger question is how celebrity culture can turn vulnerability into another form of prestige.
A Joe Rogan style commentary would focus on whether we've become so caught up in inspirational stories that we overlook the enormous privilege surrounding them and just reminding people that we're normal people. Yes, we're black. Um but but we bleed red and we love red, white, and blue.
Oh my god. Everyone knows that you don't have to keep reminding us that you're black just like your friend Karine Jean-Pierre. You don't have to work it into every single conversation.
And also raise it as a way of saying the country's racist. We're normal even though we're black weird white people who are racists and hate us because of our skin color. That's what she's saying.
She said the other day they didn't get the same grace other first families got because of skin color. I'm sick of it. That's the contradiction worth examining.
Michelle Obama can genuinely feel pressure and insecurity while still enjoying extraordinary privilege. She can dislike constant public attention while also benefiting from the fame it brings. The problem starts when people treat every personal struggle is proof that her life is just like everyone else's.
Most people haven't lived in the White House, had Secret Service protection, or written best-selling memoirs, and very few can turn difficult life experiences into major publishing deals. That doesn't make Michelle's struggles meaningless, but it does make the word relatable more complicated, and that's where the sarcasm comes in. Rogan wouldn't necessarily need to invent criticism of her public image when Michelle herself has openly discussed the imperfections behind it.
Joan Rivers said that Michelle Obama was a man before she died. When was that a joke? I thought it was a joke.
I thought it was a joke, too. But the way she said it wasn't like jokey. She was like walking.
Oh, come on. Everybody knows Michelle Obama's a man. Remember that?
Yeah. Like, would Big Mike kill you for that? [laughter] Well, and that context often disappears when social media turns someone's life into a 30-second inspirational clip.
Michelle Obama has every right to feel tired, frustrated, or insecure. But experiencing ordinary emotions doesn't automatically make her life ordinary. Being human and being relatable are two different things.
She can feel exhausted by fame while benefiting from it. Dislike public scrutiny while enjoying its advantages and want privacy while remaining one of America's most recognizable figures. These contradictions don't make her dishonest.
They make her story more complicated. And from a Joe Rogan style comedic perspective, that's where the best jokes would come from. Rather than pretending Michelle hasn't achieved anything, the humor would focus on how someone with extraordinary success can sometimes have her struggles presented as though her entire world is falling apart.
theory about people like Michelle Obama and like the ones who are constantly talking about how hard everything is and how like you know remember she she she clapped back at Cheryl Samberg's lean in you know and there was plenty to criticize with Cheryl Samberg's lean in but like Michelle Obama at that time was like you know that doesn't always work and she wasn't talking about for working-class people she was talking about for black people she had to play the race card when she was first lady that you know you can't just get what you want if you go after it this is just just she's always been this way and what I have learned and this was in part thanks to some of my own journey and I mentioned the reference to the NBC stint people who are constantly talking about like self-help and like depression and how hard things are and how to get through them. And that is what makes Michelle Obama's own comments such interesting material for satire. Nobody needs to invent flaws when the contradictions are already there.
The question is whether every personal struggle should become an inspirational story or whether people can look at it with a little humor. Humor doesn't have to be cruel. Sometimes it simply means not treating every serious statement as unquestionable truth.
A Joe Rogan style roast would focus less on attacking Michelle and more on how celebrity culture turns successful people into victims of their own success then praises them for overcoming challenges that come with their extraordinary lives. Michelle can be successful, privileged, exhausted, and insecure without any of those qualities can canceling out the others. The problem is that audiences often want simple stories with perfect heroes or helpless victims.
But Michelle's life, like most people's, is far more complicated than that. Michelle Obama's back in the news. She's obsessing over race again.
I know you're shocked. Shocked. Here's a little bit of that from the Storehouse and Friends podcast this past Sunday.
Top 54. If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color, I try to make it a point, but the clothes have to be available, right? You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes.
You know, what does our closet look like and who's in it? Michelle Obama is too successful to be seen as an ordinary person, yet too human to be treated as a perfect, untouchable symbol. That is what makes her public struggle so interesting.
Her life has included Harvard, the White House, global fame, best-selling books, and major media projects. Yet, she still sometimes wonders whether she is doing enough. That is not a contradiction that needs fixing.
It is a reminder that even highly successful people experience insecurity. And ironically, that may be one of the most relatable things about her. The difference is that most people deal with their doubts without a best-selling memoir, a massive platform, or millions of people waiting to hear their lessons.
Michelle has all three, which is why the satire practically writes itself. The joke isn't that she has problems. Everyone does.
It's that even her struggles can become inspirational lessons, book chapters, and viral conversations. Somehow, her vulnerability becomes another reason people admire her. That is quite a remarkable talent.
