joining me now is David shown a former Trump impeachment lawyer and Gary shapley IRS agent and Hunter Biden whistleblower Gary let's start with you despite everything that came out and that Hunter admitted to you think the doj still didn't fully investigate him what makes you say that yeah that's correct so you know Hunter Biden was singled out just like uh President Biden said yesterday in his letter and that was for preferential treatment during the entire investigation Department of Justice didn't allow us to follow normal investigative processes that would have potentially led to Joe Biden and
some of it did leave to Joe Biden as the uh the the house uh and the chairman um who engaged in the impeachment inquiry uh found out and you know so when we didn't have uh th those powers and authorities to go after and find uh you know all that the Biden family did it it really just it just hid that from um from the American people and ultimately they they move into uh uh they were going to charge in 2022 and then at the end of 2022 they're not going to charge because two Biden
appointed us attorneys became involved and wouldn't allow David Weiss to charge he he requests a special charging Authority he wasn't given it so then we come forward Joe zegler and I and all of a sudden Department of Justice is trying to cover it up with a sweetheart plea deal which of course fell apart and then when he finally think that that Hunter Biden's going to face his consequences for the crimes that he committed uh uh President Biden comes in and pardons him so he was singled out and uh uh and it was for preferential treatment
all that's great that's a great turn of phrase now uh we're going to get to David Weiss's statement in just a moment but David shown some experts are saying that this pardon could actually backfire on Joe Biden is that true oh absolutely actually there are a couple interesting things about it but I have to say your intro was awesome and especially when you consider Joe Biden's statement in giving the pardon when he said in my entire career I've always adhered to one simple principle tell the American people the truth um so anyway I think there
are two at least two elements to this that are very interesting it could backfire because a broad pardon like this um removes the Fifth Amendment right for Hunter Biden at least with respect to any federal CL crime so I would expect you'd see a subpoena potentially from the house or the Senate um to inquire about Ukraine activities and all of that sort of thing remember this covers an 11 uh 11year period 10 years and 11 months um but the other part of it is there's a real question whether a broad rather than specific um preemptive
pardon is valid interestingly brookens institution wrote a piece when they suspected uh president Trump was going to give broad pardons um and they suggested that it's not valid you know the Nixon case he was given a broad uh preemptive Impe uh pardon but it was never tested in court so someone could challenge this there are a lot of implications this but remember the breadth of this pardon is so great that Hunter Biden literally on November 30th could have sold 10 kilos of heroin and he's given license now at least for any federal crime uh to
avoid any prosecution for that it's any federal crime he committed or may have committed up until December 1st well that that's a fascinating point about the Fifth Amendment meaning he has to tell us now what really happened or illegally is bound to because he doesn't have that constitutional protection that is very very important for everybody to remember tonight and back to David Weiss's special counsel in this case he has come out today against Hunter's case being dismissed with prejudice saying quote the government does not challenge that defendant has been the recipient of an act of
Mercy but that does not mean the grand jury's decision to charge him based on a finding a probable cause should be wiped away as if it never occurred Gary he seems to be making your point here but how signic ific is it tonight that he comes out and makes that bold statement I just believe this is Department of Justice maneuvering to make it look like you know they're still in the game and and that they're still pursuing you know every Avenue against Hunter Biden but you know they they hopefully when the new Administration comes in
and the new attorney general Bondi comes in you know they'll be looking into this maybe appoint a new special counsel to investigate this special counsel because that's what's needed because the the level of Mal feance that occurred at every level level from the attorney general Merrick Garland to David Weiss to the FBI to Iris uh leadership is just quite appalling and that's why uh I'm very optimistic moving in uh with this new Administration with the Department of government government efficiency who uh you know like I said earlier could could literally be born out of my
we got to get to the bottom of this yeah we got to get to the bottom of this and the Ukraine angle we're going to get to later on in the show but David to that point this could be a a Weiss a David Weiss cya move too could it not beely he's really saying nothing the fact is Article 2 Section two gives the president the right to Pardon but not the right to expunge expungement is a Judicial remedy so what he said is accurate but I think agent shapley is correct it's just a cya
sort of maneuvering and remember Mo maybe the most offensive thing of all of this is that this wasn't just a an innocent victim Hunter Biden it might be a pitiful character but he tried to take down these agents the team behind him challenged The credibility of the agents and they sued people over the laptop and so on he has a fine lawyer in ABY LEL and maybe he was smart in putting he was smart in putting off the uh sentence because theoretically he's not even a convicted felon because there's been no final judgment entered in
the case so anyway the interesting academic issues surrounding it but yeah it just doesn't look good well Gary you were Brave and stepping forward you and your colleague um all that time ago and we appreciate both of you tonight thank you very much hey Sean Hannity here hey click here to subscribe to Fox News YouTube page and catch our hottest interviews and most compelling analysis you will not get it anywhere else