I realized that a lot of the people who are super successful and are put up as like these you know figures of success they're just this weak spineless nothing to [Music] them welcome to the lot podcast we're a Dutch podcast but we're doing this one in English so I think a lot of new audience will come from your audience as well we have a great guest uh our Followers have been asking for this legendary man for for quite a while imti welcome to the podcast man thanks for having me on tour as well you guys
are on tour for sure man yeah yeah first time but uh yeah as I said you know before we start off you're your fans and your audience are nuts they're crazy in a good way as I said like I you know I get a lot of requests and stuff like that and I think I maybe I mentioned to you guys I genuinely committed I was Like last month I was like I'm not going to do a podcast for two years like yeah because I I I I didn't do podcast for like two or three years
I lived my life I did what I needed to do and I feel as though when you go on podcast it's well first of all I just hate repeating my life story that's like I will talk about anything there's nothing that's off limits for me except for my life story because I'm just like you can just find it somewhere else um and the other thing Is you know I guess podcast is cool because you relay what's been going on in your life but then there's a lot of people who just go on podcast every month
and I'm like well it's just the update is just the same thing from last month so I felt like I needed to do you know two years maybe a year and a half go live life go make some more stories go do some more things things that are actually worth relaying to people but uh yeah your audience is insane so I could Not get out of this one I had no choice I was getting to hit up 247 that's good to here so thank you to all the lot as we call them it's like companions
in Dutch it's translations so that's why we call it the L not podcast on another note uh before we get started uh I don't know if you gentlemen like watches but if you just pass me the little thing over there uh I brought you guys a little gift amazing I'm I'm a big horology fan so we Noticed that yeah we notic that I like my watches so I brought all three of you guys a little something uh I don't know if you know uh about the Omega collab man heard it knows a lot more about
watches than me all right these are very difficult to get in London there are criminals waiting outside the uh the Omega store when people walk out they just take them cuz these watches are impossible to get yeah these watches go for like three four times um the retail Price it's it's very difficult to get in uh in London uh this is kind of like the watch that all the wealthy people wear because they can't wear their nice watches anymore so um thank you so much really appreciate it so much no my pleasure so I got
three options so you jents you you jents just choose between you um and we're going to look at it right yeah of course yeah we're going to have a look for sure man uh I also recommend Um I also recommend uh there's a company called orus h o r us um or r one or the other but anyways they make these really nice straps specifically for the watches so the straps on there are very um yeah they're not very great but yeah when you wear that watch when you wear that watch people know okay this
person's into watches this person has a very good watch collection they just don't want to get stabbed so okay okay I'm going to send a picture to yper We were talking about J he's going to appreciate it as well very much thank you so much man it looks so cool so people will think that I have a Rolex back home people will think you've got a nice PCH collection you're just rolling around in Amsterdam and you don't want to get your left arm Tru off yes exactly cuz in Amsterdam it's starting to be a problem
as well it's like London's the the hot spot as I said I you know I I grew up 17 years in London and I you Know I liveed there up until 18 months ago yeah and uh I go back you know uh every few months I was just there a couple weeks ago and it's uh it's intense man yeah you can't wear anything but the thing is that is I think is extra scary in in England is the fact that they use knives to chop off and stuff because in the Netherlands there's much more guns
so they just put a gun to your head guns are guns are much safer exactly guns are much safer because the Thing is the uh repercussions in someone's mind for shooting you right that is big big difference to just slashing your arm right not not you know not cutting your arm off clean but just giving you a slash just you know it's London is a it's a shame right cuz it's it's interesting you know being in Dubai and speaking to you know people who for example lived here for 23 years right and it's people who
live here can say oh I've watched this city go from this to This and it's just all positive right it's just every single you know maybe not every single year but every five 10 years it just gets better and better for me it's like the reverse the UK right it's like I I can talk about how every single year just gone wor and worse and it's you know London will always have my heart but it is um is definitely quite quite sad to see but let's be honest cuz we have like uh we used to
talk about America quite a lot on the podcast as Well and we used to joke around like America's like a third world country with a Gucci hat yeah so everything is [ __ ] but it looks great to the outside like we're the big thing and then we were laughing like the Netherlands everything is set up quite well but the last two years everything is turning to [ __ ] as well in in Europe and in the Netherlands as well Europe in general but how do you see it besides the uh hands that will be
chopped off Like how do you see that the society is going bad going the wrong way um so look in general and this is a big world problem the the big issue is the gap between the rich and the poor is the worst it's ever been and that's not actually a good thing and you know look for me for me first of all it's not a good thing and anyone who is even super wealthy should be concerned because that's always uh that is always the prerequisite to to a Revolt that's Always the the prerequisite to
big big civil unrest right so here's the thing if you're in a situation where you know look there's a difference between there is mass inequality in the sense that you know some people can only afford to fly easy jet on a holiday twice a year and some people can afford to fly private jet twice a month right that's okay as in I get maybe not morally but that's okay in terms of like that's not going to cause unrest what is Going to cause unrest is when in the UK you've got Energy prices five times higher
than they used to be and now you've got these people who and in Germany eight times higher and yes you know some countries are subsidizing but at the end day you've got a situation where people are going to work so they're getting in their car from their mortgage house they're going to work right they're first first of all they're filling up their tank and they're Watching every single day the prices go up or every single month the prices go up and then they're going to work they're working in a job they hate and then they're
coming back and the thing is before you know past couple years 5 10 years ago you'd have a situation where maybe at the end of the month they have 3% of their income Left Right 5% but they always know okay I'm safe this is fine but imagine you go through all of that You do all of that to come home and at the end of the month you've lost 500 pounds or 500 EUR yeah you're working hard because the energy prices have [ __ ] you so hard then Energy prices and inflation the real world
inflation has [ __ ] you so bad then now it's like now the idea you know now the idea that you really are under the puppet Master's thumbs like it becomes real to people they're like oh [ __ ] I actually am There's no there's no way out of this I have a mortgage I have a car payment I genuinely am a slave to the system I'm [ __ ] right do you think that this is because people think like okay we did it ourselves right we made bad decisions but of course you are someone
that thinks further than such decisions that people are made speaking um what is the cause of this is this literally like few people on the top that are thinking like okay we have to raise the prices of Electricity of gasoline of the groceries Etc so look a lot pretty much all the issues that are happening right now stem from a little cough cough that happened back at the end of 2019 early 2020 and that cough cough everyone has different opinions obviously I have very strong opinions that's caus me in a lot of trouble over this
past few years I started in July of 2020 I started very vocally talking about it on all social media platforms I believed it was just The common flu which it is just the common flu and there's no reason to shut down the entire world and in turn have to print 40% of the world's money supply in the space of 18 months and what do you think happens when you print 40% of the world's [ __ ] money supply in the space of 18 months of course what happens happens and the worst part is it's not
like all of that money got distributed evenly what happens is all that money just flows back up to the top Because money was easier to actually get a hold of so what do smart wealthy people do they buy assets right and the thing is you know everything that's happening right now with inflation that doesn't affect people who have assets right um now I will say asset prices have gone down because you know the Federal Reserve basically has gotten more um you know has uh gone a little bit more uh strict with their polic policies you
know Obviously they raising interest rates pretty much all central banks are but that's kind of where all the issues started and then it comes into the thing of like okay why would the entire world shut down why would they print all this money why would they do all these things for what is statistically just the flu and then it comes to the question of like you know people go okay well no the government's there's no way the governments all were in on it together So everyone I guess everyone gets to like a certain tier of
the conspiracy list it depends how far you go or what you believe uh all you know a lot of it stems from core values or or core beliefs uh a lot of people think the governments are just and countries are just these different uh entities and they work on their own well you know to them I would basically say just look into when you hold a $100 bill when you hold money Where does that money come from where does money come from that's the easiest place to start where does money come from okay when you
hold a $100 US Bill who made that dollar you know who made that note yeah most people think the government no the government didn't the government borrows that money okay so who actually created the Federal Reserve Okay cool so the government owns the Federal Reserve right no they don't the Federal Reserve was created in 1912 by you know this very hush hush who is created by but you know there's a very good book uh creature of jaal Island that basically talks about the Inception of the Federal Reserve and after the Federal Reserve came the IRS
you know most people don't know that until it was what 1914 it was unconstitutional it was considered unconstitutional to tax people on their personal income right there was no taxes before then personal income tax okay Right so yeah you know it's uh I it's my personal belief that all of this was premeditated that because now what they're doing is obviously there's the big push for Central Bank digital currencies right there's places like where is it in Italy there's somewhere in Italy there's a city in Italy that's uh just rolled out their social credit score system
really yeah just like China like it's in Italy and it's I thought that was also quite interesting because The new um I'm I'm a big fan of new Prime Minister that they have in it Germany as well they like her a lot what they like the Italian no not at all they said like right like if she gets uh no not at all they said like if the new girl it's a woman right I don't know name exactly gets elected then we will have repercussions for it it she's great I like her she's you know
to me she's very similar to like the Brazilian um president Brazilian president is like Yeah he's a g I like him but um uh anyways so look it's it's my opinion that that was all planned right so that way that could lead to the collapse of currencies as we know it Usher out cash as well and uh basically roll in the new Central Bank digital currencies and that's very very scary because that really is pro programmable money right that really is hey I'm paying you whatever you get your salary right but hey because the economy
is down we have Now made the decision you're allowed to save your money if you don't spend your money within a year it goes away oh you donated I mean just look at what happened in Canada oh you donated to charity that you donated to charity that we don't agree with we don't like oh you instead of donating to BLM like a good little boy you decided to donate to um you know the truckers Freedom you know whatever one of those Charities okay cool your your bank account shut down Right and you saw that happen
in Canada so you know I think it's um censorship and all this stuff everything that's going on it's a lot of the people on the left push for it but they don't realize that that can be mobilized or sorry that can be mobilized and that can be used against them eventually that's the funny thing though that's the thing that especially for example take Tate being deplatformed a lot of people agree with the things he Said you can't say those things usually that's based on what they see on the news so it's not even the full
story but they agree with you can see you see all of these videos and they're so good it's so fun to watch people's minds work you see all these videos I actually saw one I think it was yesterday from a um a woman called aah heurn uh I saw her in Miami very very incredible incredible woman she was walking around the Streets of London she was asking people you know What's your opinion on Tate they like I hate the guy he he he's a misogynist he's an [ __ ] and she's like okay cool like
what did he say that uh he's they can't they can't give an answer right you know and it's it's just very interesting you know for me I don't I you know if someone told if someone came up to me for example you know it's I don't like feminazis right yeah yeah you know I'm I'm not a fan of f Nazis I'm not a fan Of um you know uh a lot of that whole world right and but if someone if a woman for example like the gender pay Gap right for me I think uh it's
a very easy sign that a person is very low intelligence if they actually believe in the gender pay Gap that men actually get paid for the exact same draw exact same qualification everything the exact same that they get paid less right I mean if that was the case I I employ over a 100 people now between my companies I would It would just be all women of course if it's same qualification same ability everything is the same so um but if if someone can actually run me through their logic and properly explain to me hey
this is why I believe what I believe I may not agree with it right like for example I've sat down with people who are like you know we need five shots we need five boosters right we need F we need the uh uh quadruple Jib Jab all this stuff and and And when they can explain to me and when they can explain to me the reason and why they've come to that conclusion I may not agree with them but I still respect them for their opinion because I'm like you've genu you've sat you've sat down
you've thought about it and sometimes you know I I can be very convincing so I'll sit down and explain why you know I believe it's all all a hoax and at the end of it they're like I hear You I understand I just still don't agree with you and I can always respect someone for that but you know as I said when you see people and they you know it's it's regarding Tate you know they can't explain their logic they they they're they it's just it's just so funny I don't know it's just funny to
me seeing like a person's mind just like in real time break down like you can just see like yeah yeah just twitching the eye but you see it because some people Also said to me like dat I don't know what I think of him right and then said to him like okay have you watched him yeah yeah I saw saw saying things about women that they cannot drive a car and okay and say okay where did you see it yeah on Tik Tok I say okay so you saw a 30 second video right and so
maybe a few ones but if you going to ask further they don't watch an interview of him for 60 minutes or with Patrick B David for 4 hours because then you see the logic Behind the things that he says but people that have like an opinion that he is bad mostly just saw him for like 30 seconds look it's the same thing with Putin you see the exact same thing with Putin if you ask anyone on the street of uh UK If you if you go to the streets of New York or London right now
and you go hey do you like Putin or do you think Putin is an evil man they'll all tell you no no no Putin is the most evil man On Earth he's blah blah they can't give you a reason no right and and look I'm not saying I agree with him I disagree with him I don't think he's an evil man in the slightest and I don't think you know I don't think he's an evil man in the slightest look of course I'm not a fan of War it's very sad to see what's happening but
at the end of the day he has a duty and responsibility to his country and I don't think it's Russia's Fault I don't think it's Ukraine's fault it's America's fault because it's always [ __ ] America's fault right you just need to ask Libya ask Syria ask any PE country they try to bring peace or aid to any of these [ __ ] places right so you know I I just give a but that's what I'm saying it's people be like no Putin's an evil crazy Mad Man and it's they can't explain why like why
do they believe it they say oh cuz cuz war in Russia blah blah and then you go okay Cool let's say you're an American let's say China formed an alliance with Mexico okay and so China put its missiles and its weapons in Mexico because they have an alliance now right on the border of and very very close to America how do you think America would respond any American would be like no no we have to bomb them we have to at any and I'm like so do you see where your brain is not functioning correctly
like so it's I don't know it's I will I can always Respect a person for their opinion as long as uh they've they've given it some deep deep thought and that's the thing that I've learned over the past few years as well is there's so much power in not having an opinion sometimes people ask me things and these days I'm just I'm not afraid to say man I don't know it's such a sign of an intelligent person because I'm in the same camp if someone ask me you know uh uh questions on certain specific topics
I go I'll be H I'm simply not educated enough to give you an answer on that I I I don't know you know because the thing is I think in life it's when you have an opinion on something and when you can give a reason as to why it has so much more weight cuz people know he's not you know he or she is not talking just for the sake of talking like they genuinely they believe this to to their Court they may not be right I may not agree with them but they genuinely believe
and they're generally Standing up for something so I think you know very right right what you said when you say you know ask someone a question oh what do you believe blah blah or what should I do in this situation you go I'm going to be entirely honest with you this isn't my scope I I don't know but it's the same um in history we have we have read a book about Playdoh or play have uh written the book but it's about soes and soes is then probably you already know the book but he's going
to Ask a lot of people what they do for a job and is for for example someone is a Baker and then he asked something about politics but because they think of because they know they are like an expert in Baker they also think that are like an expert in politics so it's like a little bit of an ego that you create because you're good at one thing you think that you're also good at another thing and on a certain moment in the book It also says like the only thing That I know is that
I know nothing and I thought oh that's crazy man I can't you guys start the podcast yeah actually that's well it's one of the things that really we always keep that in mind yeah and also the thing is that what I really noticed mostly especially in the western world and as we were told to you as well in the Netherlands successful people they get uh quite a lot of criticism being rich is not that good in the Netherlands I think it's a similar to Australia in Australia they call it uh tall poppy syndrome exactly so
it's a bit of the same thing exactly is that is it same yeah yeah yeah it's a bit of the same thing so making money or or really just talking about the fact that you want to make money the the answers you get is no you need to be uh happy and blah blah BL I'm curious what's the reaction when someone's like oh I want to get a six-pack is it similar sort of reaction or are people happy like six Pack is fine going to the gym and stuff that's that's more accepted don't don't post
enough uh po don't post like the don't flex don't post the photos on on on Instagram and stuff don't show off that's really a thing I think with money it's like be normal and that is like always already extreme yeah that's fine yeah yeah you've got a Dutch saying it's [Music] uh and it's the translation is be normal that's crazy enough that's the the thing And that's they say that in all kinds of cases oh we bought a car of U 100K man just be normal don't always have to be crazy really so that's quite
I hate that culture yeah it's a hard culture to deal I spent quite uh I spent quite a lot of time in uh in Holland uh in Netherlands in uh 2017 but I wasn't uh as I wasn't doing as well in life back then so I I don't know how it would translate but um yeah It's you see it a lot you see a lot in Holland you see a lot in um or sorry Netherlands and you see a lot in um Australia along Sweden Denmark these places I think it's the countries maybe that that
feel like they're developed so everybody gets to have a chance there and everybody gets to live a good life so why be ungrateful and and look for an even better life I think that's maybe a bit of the you know you've got food you've got a home you can live what else Do you want I think that's a bit of the the way and that's pretty hard for us as well that's a big part why we started this podcast cuz when we started our entrepreneurial Journey we only had each other as friends and I could
talk to him about the things I wanted to do and he could talk to me but if I talk to my parents or or other their friends they just don't understand so you start feeling lonely and then you need like a companion or someone you can speak with Or listen to on a weekly basis to really get to know like okay how can I grow and there really are people like me out there so that's for everybody that doesn't know you as well to give a little bit of a backstory we're not going to go
into the whole what your life has been like if people want to check that out there are like 100 podcasts that they can check so just type in on YouTube IMI podcast and you can find it but it's interesting you're Now 22 years old 22 Yeah 22 years old yeah so you're quite a young guy still a baby exactly and you're now past 25 million in in net worth I think so a lot of people will look at that and think wow what did this happened how is it possible that this guy can do this
did you notice that when you started growing that you started losing people that you maybe looked up to cuz they were like what the hell are you doing why you're trying to breach Through the roof that we built for everybody or did you have people around you dead not in the slightest yeah not like there's a lot of things uh that I guess I don't know why but a lot of people go through I just didn't experience like I don't know losing friends mhm or stuff like that and or like people feel uncomfortable losing friends
or I don't know just you know I know a lot a lot of people I I have a very strong very vast network but I at The then I hang out with most of my friends who were there for me when I had nothing that back in 2015 2016 used to pay for my lunch because they would be like oh do you want to go to Nando and i' be like I can't really afford an nandos right now right like I'm saving up to buy a lens for a camera so that way I can use
that to shoot stuff for clients and build up my agency and all this stuff so you know I kind of just hang out with those people or I hang out With other very very successful people um because we're just kind of you know it's it's a peer-to-peer uh interaction so no for me it's I don't know I don't think I've ever had someone be like oh and and the thing is I guess in life you get what you accept I just would never accept that if someone said that to me it would it wouldn't go
down very well I can tell you that I would I would I would never even entertain a discussion like that of like oh you know Why aren't you happy where you are cuz for me it's like why are you happy where you are where you like so yeah I just think in in life people I think in life a lot of people just as well they just they'll entertain discussions like that and for me there's just no there's no point why are you like why are you explaining yourself to someone like that right you're going
to have to shed a lot of old weight you're going to have to shed a lot of dead skin as you progress Further and further in life and you know even now I guess that's something that I'm experiencing where it's like if I responded to every single my WhatsApp messages right and I don't give my phone number out right and I change my phone number quite frequently so if I responded to every one of my whatsapps I would be on my phone 4 hours first thing in the morning and that's just my WhatsApp that's not
my email that's not my slack with a 100 employees between Multiple companies that's not let alone my Instagram like it's you know so now I guess even for me I'm having to start start coming to the thing of like hey if someone asks you like if someone who's an old school friend asks you oh have you been it's fine to just not respond you know it's fine to respond [ __ ] sometimes I respond three months later to people I Al anyone who I know and messages messages me on Whatsapp I'll respond but sometimes I
Respond after three months um so you know I guess that is definitely a growing pain and I'm starting to experience things now as I get into new levels in terms of like yeah just different planning things and working super closely with my assistant and scheduling and this and that and like I guess even just little things like now this year was the first year where I now have like security when I'm in Europe in London like here I just have my driver But I luckily I don't need security um well actually fing enough my security
my CPO close Protection Officer that I work with in London now I've just hired him full-time because we're doing a LW traveling next year but like just stuff like that I guess is new and interesting like you know if I'm at dinner with a girl like I'm at dinner and then my CPO is at the bar you know and that like there's definitely things that come with getting to new place in life and that's Me at at my stage and then I look at certain people and I'm like I can't imagine how they live their
life so it's you know every different stage that you get to you have to accept a new reality for yourself and you have to accept like a new self-image um and yeah don't let anyone ever you know the one thing uh that I guess sometimes uh rubs me the wrong way is when people try to judge a life that they don't understand you know what I mean like I'm Not going to sit here and judge uh I'm not going to sit here and judge anything Elon Musk does right if Elon Musk has nine personal assistants
I'm not going to sit here and judge him and be like oh why do you need nine that's ridiculous what it's not my right to say that I don't know the sort of life that he's living you know and even for example a lot of people will uh judge guys like Dan ban like he should just grow up he should grow up how dare he just have all Of these hot girls around him that that want him he should just grow up like God and it's like dude just because you've slept with two girls your
entire life and you decided to get married to 21 which by the way I think is a very Noble thing and I wish I was like that I gen feel ball my heart I really I say this all time I wish I was a person that could meet the love of my life and you know I've already met the person that I would want to marry I just You know life and I'm very young and as I said you know from a young age even at the age of 12 or 14 I always knew I
want to get married at like 38 very late 36 3 36 38 and married is married before the kids or after the kid before before kids kids are maybe 38 40 yeah something he's way different okay and I wish I was like that I because I think it's a much more noble way of life yeah but the difference will be Like I hopefully will have like a good girlfriend in a few years I don't have one right now I know he has one and that's really good and then I would say okay in a few
years I would I would have kids I think in your place I'm curious because uh you talked about it when you're around 34 33 a man is like on his best right on his best potential best years with the look and how he how he looks and for women is like 22 Right so when you're 38 how old is the girl that you well well well guys think 22 look everyone has different preferences and stuff like that I will say from a purely a looks perspective for me my preference is probably 24 to 26 I'm
not some guys like the 19yearold 20-y old for me personally maybe that's also because a lot of their personality shines through and it's you know look and by the way I you know I've said before I forget where I said it some People took offense that hey you know 20 20-year old girls are insufferable 20y 20-year old guys are insufferable right I'm not just talking about like it's you know so it's people at that age it's there's not much you can connect and you can talk to so uh yeah you know for me if I'm
let's say 36 38 I would imagine and look who knows guys I might get married next year who knows you you you never never know this is just a plan and everyone has a plan and everyone has an Idea for their life and you know things can change right so who knows but just the way I was envisioned it at least uh you know if I'm 38 realistically my wife will probably be 2 6 28 not 22 not there's too much of an age Gap and there's too much difference in life experience um but then
obviously that brings 25 26 year olds that brings along its own set of challenges which is you know uh and you some people get very very upset by this women get very upset By this you know because I think they think that men are trying to box the men or telling them you know what they should do sexually of course it's statistically proven that a woman with a higher body count for men it doesn't matter right a a man can have a body count of 10 or 30 or 50 it doesn't change uh it basically
it isn't an indication as to how successful that marriage is going to be whereas a woman every single sexual partner she has Extra uh increases the likeliness of div divorce right yes it's a it's a very very strong statistic and you know I I guess it's sex is such an intimate thing but it is different for men and women so you know it does make you know it it does it does make sense um so yeah you know I guess uh that would be the only challenge is at 26 27 you know you do you
do have to find a girl who you know was uh in a relationship for seven years okay what is like the body counts Must be below 10 five or do you say it doesn't really matter for me because then you say like okay if she had like 15 20 maybe more maybe the emotional connection would be less look I I guess it depends where it's coming from and what timeline you know it's funny I said it's just very funny to me just seeing people people judge other people um without like I I always like to
play Devil's Advocate on on all sides of the spectrum like look there is a number Where let's say she's 28 right and it's above 20 for me I just can't right like once it gets above like 20 25 it it's a lot of dicks it's it's for for for the future uh mother of my children to me I just I I can't so but let's say for example you know there's a lot of girls who are uh you know their body count is 14 right and they're 24 years old right but they only had one
boyfriend for you know from 16 to 18 and then you know they were CU guys also Don't really do the numbers you know you think about it and it's like you know let's say they sleep with would you guys can if a girl sleeps with two people a year would you consider that a law no no not really if she single if she single I think actually cuz I know girls that do two in a month yeah two in a week bro um Bro think bro come on day sometimes at the same time bro make
no s you know bro one here you slip there it's yeah anyways look So if let's say a girl sleeps with two um U two guys a year and she's single right fully single and let's say you know she SLE with her first uh she lost her Virginia to her boyfriend at 16 so 16 to 18 one sexual partner then she was single for three years that's already and it's two people a year you guys just said two actually isn't really that much you know so that's six plus one and then she gets in a
relationship from 20 uh 21 to 23 another two-year relationship uh So that's one more so let's say that's already eight and then let's say uh you know she goes single for two more years so from 23 to 25 uh and then that's another uh four that's 12 and then she ends up Lucky 13 is a future husband there's so many guys online that have never even slept with a girl that are like my wife has to be a virgin if she slept more than more with more than three guys she's a [ __ ] and
it's like dude you've you've never lived in the Real world like you you you know you're so they're so quick to judge but they don't actually run the numbers and they don't actually think they don't think about it logically so I'm not one of those people where I'm like oh she has to sleep with have slept with two people or zero right it's not about that it's just like where where was it coming from uh you know so more so than for me before look I can know a girl's body count before I even meet
her or you know In early interactions based on how much validation does she need right how much validation does she need you know uh how does she move a lot of different mannerisms and stuff like that right a lot of you know where in the world has she traveled to how busy is her schedule you know uh if you know her summer consisted of you know if her year consists of uh you know it's Halloween right now so la you know for Halloween and then Miami is Art B uh you know December is Art basil
in Miami and then from there it's Dubai for the rest of December and then it's Tulum for early Jen and you know and she's basically doing the whole circuit I can assume you know if she tries to you know pull it off that her body counts six we both know someone's lying right maybe maybe she means last month but yeah so you know it's uh body count is a difficult one because it's it really comes in my opinion from uh Where it comes from uh within her like what place is it coming from is it
genuine just because she's met some guys she's met some really cool guys had some beautiful experiences you know uh some you know Great Moments and you know sex was really just a cherry on top of a great few dates with a guy or is it you know she was just like you know uh got out of some guy that she like stopped responding to her so she decided to [ __ ] three guys the next week you know like It's it for me it's just getting down to the bottom of what's her character because this
stuff's very important when you're eventually if this is a person you want to spend a lot of time with or the rest of your life with right so it's just very important to understand and there's also a lot of girls that went through a very for whatever reason you know uh past traumas this that went through a phase from 18 to 21 where they slept with a lot of guys and then they Were like oh actually I was doing that to distract myself because I had this difficult thing that was going on in my life
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to do the whole multiple girlfriends thing um in terms of girls I'm very uh look I'm very wary right like there's a lot of guys I I will look at like there's a lot of guys that okay well first of all I'm not Compared to uh there's some guys that just want extra notches in their belt I'm not really like that right like I'm call me a little old school I and bear in mind look I am I'm very honest with girls especially when me that I'm not Prince Charming I'm very I'm one of the
most polite one of the most respectful people uh especially when it comes to women that I guess that a lot of that just comes from single mom you know I just from a young age I was taught you Know as a man you open the door you pick her up right a lot of guys they'll just if they're meeting with a girl you know especially in places like Europe and stu oh you just you know you meet them there for me personally like you pick the girl up right uh you open the door you pay
the bill for me it's you know guys think oh it's sing I don't know maybe maybe the way were raised for me I've never met a woman that can seriously take a man I've never met a woman that can take A man seriously that splits the bill that's just listen maybe that's just the way I was raised but you know so I am very polite I'm very C courteous you know and I'm a gentleman in that sense but I make it very clear with girls like look I'm not I'm no Prince traing Right like I'm
not um you know I'm not I can be very toxic in that part of my life I can definitely be very toxic and I have a lot of fun but when it comes to uh my preferences I'm very weary you know I I I grew up very early in that sense I remember uh you know a lot of my friends from London they started taking me out clubbing when I was like 15 right so I'll be out clubbing when I was 15 16 and you know I just remember being 15 16 you know seeing all
of my guy friends who were like you know 21 at the time 20 just pulling girls and I was I was always the one that you know could never match to p and I was like you know but I was Learning a lot I was seeing like how guys MO move and you know I was learning at the age of 16 in that environment which doesn't mean that they are in that environment what's a high value male what's considered status in that spe on that specific table or that specific club that doesn't mean that person
that guy has high status in general but how has he um you know how has he perceived High status that on that particular night so I learned a lot about like uh You know male female psychology I saw a lot of stuff growing up um and I guess because of that uh I I see a lot of guys they come into money and then they just attract horrible women around them right yeah I mean of course especially duai disgusting we went to one club and was literally disgusted I was like what the f yeah du
du is very um it's interesting place now you know I'm almost uh that's one drawback and One aspect of I'm always very careful of how I speak of Dubai because I have so much respect for it as a whole but that is obviously when you've got such an influx of money there's certain certain things that you know moths will will yeah moths will attract you so you know that's definitely something to contend with here and I see as I said a lot of guys here they um you know I'll give you an example you know
they'll DM a girl they'll DM a girl and Within they'll DM a girl so they'll have 3,000 3,000 followers on Instagram a couple decent photos and they'll DM a girl and they DM a girl and they'll just go hey she'll mess oh hey what's up and they'll go oh I think you're so beautiful I'd love to take you for dinner and the girl is like yeah okay cool blah and they're like and I'm like dude what do you what sort of quality woman do you think this is that is saying yes to cuz here the
thing and the Reason I bring up the whole followers thing is because the same girl that would saying you know same good girl because everyone thinks you know every their girl is a good girl she would never do that my girlfriend would never go on dameran yach never no she she's different right and you know they think uh the same girl that doesn't respond to you know the guy with 35 her followers the another person another guy Jay Alvarez could send the same [ __ ] Message and she'd be like yeah of course and drop
all her plans right so you also I guess need to understand your status and you know with different status the different rules and different things apply but yeah as I said it's I've seen a lot of times where guys come into money and then they haven't learned enough about women and social dynamics and they don't understand how these things work um and it messes them up a lot you know I think that's the biggest Trap when when guys start succeeding in life is having the wrong Woman by their side or being you know roped in
by bad women so women are can be very dangerous for for a man we were talking about this actually yesterday with two friends of us they they are from their dad is from Iraq they came to the Netherlands now they live in Dubai and he was telling me that uh there are some scriptures in uh in the Quran which talk about the fact that the woman can actually never um Say no to have sex with the man and it seems quite harsh but the whole it's not really not all religions within Islam they practice this
because it's something that could be very dangerous if you take it the wrong way but the explanation sounded quite um logical to me because sex giving sex to a man for a woman is one of the most powerful things she can do if you have a husband and you tell him no sex for a month you can make Him do whatever the [ __ ] you want or he's going to cheat but you can cheat because in Islam cheating is also very bad and that's why they said like therefore within the normal circumstances a woman
can't say no to sex with her husband because well that's a very powerful tool and they shouldn't like misuse that powerful tool and I don't say everybody should say yes to sex with their husband all the time because then everybody is going to go Crazy but it's very interesting because I've noticed this as well yes really just to say that you know it is something very powerful and obviously women and smart women know how to use it correctly um so you do have to be very very careful you have to be very uh you have
to be very attentive uh and you have to be very uh yeah you definitely have to move in a certain way and I've said before I said this on a podcast people got very very upset or some People got very upset I said that in general I usually like to date rich girls girls from wealthy families and some people like you're not allowed to say that how dare you say that blah blah all this stuff and I'm like well if a famous person said I only like to date famous people Everyone be like yeah that
makes sense yeah so for me personally it's just like I it's it I don't really have too many concerns or worries oh is she with me for the money or blah blah When it's like her dad owns a private jet I have to char her I can't afford a private jet right now yeah you know so the same private jet that I have to Charter for 50k a flight is $30 million $40 million and her dad owns it so she doesn't care right and it's uh I I will also say I think there this um
I see it with guys uh guys who come from wealthy families a lot of times can turn out really really really bad most of the times women who come from wealthy Families I've noticed actually turn out great some you know because they don't think that the money is them like they you know where sometimes the guys can think oh this is my money the family's money is my money i' you know I'm someone important because of it so I've noticed you know girls that come from wealthy families they're always very respectful they're always very polite
um yeah they're so I guess when it comes to dating specifically uh I definitely Would say I have a preference uh towards girls that you know come from wealthy families because it's it's really good and that's normal I think you notice the same thing with some friends of ours that we talked to that for example within two three years they went from zero to having millions and they say once you start having the money it's better to have had a girlfriend from nothing and grow with her then now start dating when I have money because
dating When you have money is very hard especially on social media have you have like a typical social media page with the Ferrari and everything then just the wrong girls attracted at you so maybe that's like a good question right those guys they end up with the wrong girl you are saying I'm searching for the right ones mostly they are like richer girls but where do you find those like to just going to events to parties and then you see them because I don't expect when you Go to a club in Dubai that you find
those girls yeah of course you know you you got to pick and choose where you're going um I will say Dubai is a very different like very difficult City just in general uh to meet women or at least women that I guess you would imagine having children with uh but little question between that between this have you ever paid for sex with another girl no why I'm really curious because lot a lot of distraction here in Dubai and a Lot of people that are asking for more no but I will say it's it's very funny
I uploaded a video called the seven worst purchases to make or something and it was right before I went to Miami so was right before I went to Miami and I basically saying there I've still I've never been to a casino and I've never been to a strip club and I didn't say that in a proud way right like I wasn't like oh I um you know like I was like I want to I just have never had the right Time where and I've still never been to a casino but it was funny right after
that I went to a strip club for the first time I went to a place called tootsies in Miami and it was it was man it was it was funny it was it was an interesting it was and by the way you I think bear in mind I'm the person who I think I did LSD for the first time when I was 14 really so I've done everything my my you know the way that I look at is I don't judge things I just I would Rather just try look there's certain things for me which
are off limits and just morally I don't agree with or just don't really interest me but apart from that I'm not an angel in the stus like I will try [ __ ] anything right uh so yeah uh for that reason um yeah I think it's I don't know I will say I had this conversation with a friend out there um we were talking about it and uh you know obviously half of this is a joke but he's like dude you realize at the end of The day cuz I was saying to him as well
it's uh I was saying to him sometimes I wish that I was one of those guys who could just like pay for sex like cuz it's just their life seems so much easier you know cuz it's you know you don't have to go on dates you don't have to the courtship process you don't have to do any of that less time you know less time bro it seems like an easy life ASU and I don't know if guys have ever read um Dan Ban's book it's it's great He's I've heard pieces but he's honestly most
people don't realize how intelligent he is and once again he's one of those people who's very very misunderstood and he's very very smart um and and the book uh is called a setup or something I guess I'm very similar to him which like if I don't this is for example why I have a very strong policy I don't sleep with drunk girls right like that's a very strong drunk drunk girls for many different reasons um but One of them also just being like I can't know I I can't be into something I can't be into
a girl unless I know she she not that she thinks I'm cute that she genuinely like is obsessed with me right like for me that's the most attractive thing about um you know having a partner and being with someone is like knowing that it's not that they like I don't know how some guys can be with their girlfriends and their girlfriends Just like them right like for me like my girlfriend it's it should be all-encompassing and I don't mean that in a bad way but I just think as a woman when you are with a
man you really respect respect him like he's basically your idol right like he's there's no one on earth who you trust more than him there's no one on Earth that you you should feel safe you should feel like a little princess you should feel like you you know um so that kind of parlays into What it's like with women you know uh I guess sometimes I do think about it because I'm like I was having this conversation with my friend and he's like bro you realize at the end of the day uh because this specific
friend you know he's indulges in and by the way the other thing is this guy could get any girl he wants right but he you know indulges and escorts here and there and he was like bro it's just easy and he's like dude you realize at the end of the Day he's like you realize at the end of day you're paying for sex you're paying for it in one way or the other it's just I pay up front with you and your stuff you pay when you go on the dates right when you go on
dates or when you go or if she's your a girlfriend and you start taking or traveling around the world and all this stuff so you pay in that case and then the guy who's married he pays when he gets divorced so he's like dude at the end of Day we're all paying in we're all paying in some way but don't you think like when when you are paying for for for sex it's the easiest way So eventually I have that okay maybe not all men have that but I want to end up in a good
relationship but if you always pay for M for for sex it's like when you want to have great relationship you don't know how to do that because you never did it yeah I don't know for me it's kind of Look I I agree with that I guess it depends look if you're I think if you're this is why look I just don't judge things in general even even if I don't do it personally or I don't agree with it I don't judge things in general I can see why people where people come from I will
say I think you know uh escorts I think it's absolute noo if you can't get girls if you can't get girls and you're using as a bandage but I guess maybe just a guy that I was speaking to it's He can get girls you know so it's he knows at any moment he can okay you know what I'm going to assign more effort in my life now to getting you know going on dates you know meeting girls finding a good relationship all this stuff but right now he's like [ __ ] man I'm just making
so much money I'm so dialed in this is so much easier like you know he's in he's in bed by 11:00 p.m. you know like it's you know so it's no worries no awkward sleepover no awkward Sleepovers send them home you know so I guess like each to their own right um yeah it's interesting though all the subjects that we've passed now and all the things that you say there's in my point of view one through line I notice with everything you do and see and that's you don't really care what people say or what
their Drive is for the certain things they do as long as they've really thought about it and have really got the a way they can explain Why they do things and this is what everything right and I think that's a very good lesson for everybody that's listening or watching as well like if you really want to be a man or a woman in this world that can talk with their with their chest up really know what you're talking about and have thought about the things you say I'm not sure if that's what you yeah think
about I said for me I just you know you kind of hit the nail on the head which is I don't Really particularly care what someone thinks or what someone does with their life as long as they I've always said this you know people get very upset at me when I talk about video games right because they're like no it helps me hang out and blah BL I'm like cool like sure whatever you know live keep living the life you want to live right but if someone genu like for example cigars right are cigars good
for me no is it good that I've been smoking cigars Pretty much I mean now it's a lot more but when I was living in London uh you know I started smoking cigars maybe three years ago back then it was once or twice a week now it's like every day right is that good for me of course not right I'm not going to sit here and argue that it's good for me but I know the drawbacks I know what comes with it look it's nowhere near as bad as smoking cigarettes or smoking shisha because you
don't actually inhale right but I'm not Going to sit here and say it's good right so I know the drawbacks that come with it and I'm willing to accept it for this stage of my life you know let's say having a little uh you know uh have having having a nice drink here and there is that good for you no for this season of my life you know there was a season of my life and there's a stage of my life where I could not drink right I couldn't drink because I could not have anything
take me off my path because Everything in my businesses relied and was solely dependent on me being sharp and to a te right once you get to a certain stage you know I will say the most successful people I know like I'm talking like hundreds of millions billions they all drink and I find that very interesting right because I always would have thought no they're biohacking and they have to perform in the best level and all this stuff and I realized no it's Because their entire life is basically just hey make a few decisions a
month make sure it's the right decision right and that's about it and they have team right and they've hired people are so much better than them at do at what they used to do that it's not if they wake up one morning and they're hung over things go on right so it's you know uh coming back to that point if you genuinely look at I'll give you another example airpods airpods are so bad the EMF in them is so Horrible for you it's so bad but it's just so much nicer than those [ __ ]
wired ear pods or whatever right yeah I just bought the my ones like last week yeah I really love them they're great they're great you know and it's it's terrible for you but it it brings a level of convenience to your life so as long as you're aware and you go into with your eyes open uh then I have no issue what anyone does you know if someone goes Into playing video games and realizes that they are quite literally building their reality in a fantasy world they are getting their sense of importance and they are
quite literally taking away from the future that them their future wife their future children could have because they think it's more important to have a high score or a a leaderboard in Call of Duty or fortnite or whatever the [ __ ] kids play these days I don't know So if they genuinely look at themselves in the mirror and go hey I know that I don't have I will not be able to have the wife that I want to have I won't be able to provide and I won't be able to support for my children
in the way that I want to be able to support for them and that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make because right now I want to go on Call of Duty or FIFA and play with my buddies from school and you genuinely you you've you're not Lying to yourself and you've accepted the reality in your sure I don't care have you always been able to not lie to yourself cuz that's something that I've had to at times learn not to do lying to yourself I think is somebody something that a lot of people do
in in small things B how many guys do you know that the girl they're with they [ __ ] know they should leave but they're still with that girl those things you see pop up in a lot of places and I noticed that I Almost have to write down the things I think and do just to see it and reflect back to myself and tell myself am I lying to myself or am I really doing the thing have you always had that skill or did you have to develop it yeah I think I think that
probably is one of my biggest superpowers is that ability to look at things very uh objectively and look at things very objectively and whether it's actions I'm taking myself and realize okay it's going to have These repercussions or I think a lot of times the whole lying to yourself thing is friendships relationship sh or people who uh you know you guys work together so there has been situations like that I mean relationships no I don't know what it is but ever since man ever since you know 14 I've always been a [ __ ] yeah
I've always been a g like that like no not that but I've always just been like I've just from a young age I've just always not taken any disrespect had very Strong uh boundaries and you know not been a tyrant but just had very strong boundaries had very good you know respect for myself in turn when I respect myself I can respect other people that's very you know you can't respect exactly you can't respect another person if you don't truly deeply respect yourself and you can't be true to yourself ex if you're not sure about
yourself cuz how are you going to be sure about yourself and and like know That what you think is right if you're not sure if you're even the right guy exactly I think that might be a big thing so you know I've always been good with that when it comes to relationships same thing with friendships uh you know I say maybe whatever out of you know uh out of couple hundred people that over the last six years you know have worked together um and obviously you know as companies grow as they evolve as the quality
of talent that you Can bring on you know eventually you have to cut people here and there and um you know I'm very luckily these days I don't really do much of the firing anymore um I have uh you know my coo or my business partner my software company uh they kind of they kind of do most of that so but you know there has been maybe two or three cases over space the last six years where I worked with someone and I'm like I know they're not they're not progressing at the level That the
company is but I have so much love for them that I just want to make it work and you just keep trying to like you know you keep trying to put this uh you know square peg through a round hole and you keep trying to make it work but then eventually it doesn't and I guess that's an example where I can think of where I kind of lied to myself cuz I'm very I guess my Achilles heel you know my Achilles heel is uh Brotherhood right like true Friendship with other guys you know I'm an
only child I have no brothers so you know I have it's basically just me and my mom right so I guess my Achilles heel my um Kryptonite is bonds like close bonds with guys right uh so as said if you know I'm working with someone I we come to have a very close Bond and I really you know Truly Deeply do love them but I know they're they're just they can't keep up that's the only time where you know for Example with girls I don't know what it is I can just be okay this isn't
right cut like I'm very I can be very non-emotional about that stuff um friendship I don't know something about like friendship and specifically with guys it's you know I have um I have such good friendships with guys and sometimes you know uh there's only been a couple instances in the past but it's sometimes it can be very hard to let that go right because as I said sometimes you do have To shed old friendships um because you're just you know you're you're at a at a pace they can't keep up with yeah so how much
time do you spend on your friends and family because for a lot of entrepreneurs that are watching is really like I have to spend like 80 hours a week to grow my business yeah you're going to have to do that for the first few years right like I I will say there was definitely a period it was in 2017 when I started really scaling up The business where you know I had close friends of mine and they were like dude I I haven't seen you in four months and you live 5 minutes away like you
know do you really not care that much and I was like I am sorry this is what I'm going through right now and it's this is all this is taken over my life like this is all encompassing right and you know that was you know I can think of a couple friends where that was the case and you know after that they were like you know I understand you know this you know they weren't emotional they weren't upset about if they were emotional or upset or were like oh you think you're too good for me
or something that they would not be my friends right now but yeah those same friends now all wear nice Rolexes and come on fun trips and you know cuz they were also there for me when I was 16 right um so I find it I find it pretty difficult because I know a lot of friends and know them for really really Long time I don't see them often anymore but back in the days they they paid for me they they took me with the car to everywhere I wanted to go like they were really there
for me like also in in really bad times right for example when I was in England my ex-girlfriend broke up with me and my nephew just me like every every few days like how's it going how's it going how's it going and I didn't ask for it right but now I notice that because we are like a lot with the Two of us we work a lot we see a lot of people going to theb the connections are really like losing sometimes like um my friends see each other almost like every day and I see
them like every maybe now like every month and the past was like every week but I see it like it gets less and less um is that just the way how it goes then just just the way it is and the other thing someone can't pin on you they can't be like oh you only see me once a Month right whereas they're like oh you know I used to see you every day it's like well yeah you saw me every day but you also don't have like not in a disrespectful way but you don't have
the same life that I have now like for me one day a month is actually more meaningful than you every day like I'm actually sacrificing one day in a month that is more of a sacrifice for me than you spending every single day with me because you just didn't have much else On right so it's it's always like what's a person sacrificing to be in that relationship and the funny thing is a fem minute phone call for one person you know a five minute phone call for let's say whatever hypothetically I don't know let's say
you know let's say even someone like Mr Beast right let's say a f minute phone call for someone like Mr Beast that's probably the same level of sacrifice because there's 10 101 different things He could be doing there's 101 different famous people who he could be responding to there's 101 different opportunities and this and that a 5-minute phone call for him probably has the same value as if someone you know if someone was sick and they uh if one if someone's friend was sick and they went over to their house for two days and took
care of them because they just didn't have anything to do that weekend right so It's like they weren't really giving much up they weren't going to do they were just going to stay home and read anyways or like watch some YouTube videos so it's not like they actually gave much up so you know mean so you need to look at it as you know not uh it's not a even playing field of like oh you know I'm doing this and this person can't do that in return it's like what is that person having to give
up you know in order to reciprocate so yeah is That also reason why you are searching for more richer girls because most of the times they know the value of time I have noticed that I have dated a few uh students for example over the last year and I was thinking like they have so much time and and when I spent like a night with them for 4 hours it's like now I cannot see my parents or I cannot see my friends because I have like one or two nights to spend like every week and
she was like I don't see you enough You don't be you don't message me enough you don't I don't see you enough like I don't know if this going to work and I was like yeah not going to work then but like really I I don't think necessarily wealthy girls have you know they come from multi families have particularly you know any less time you know it's most of them are students anyways right or you know they go into war like it's I think it's the same path in life it's just a lot of times
they do see their Fathers for example they're not around as much and they understand that hey this life that I have it comes with sacrifice you know it doesn't just come out of thin air it doesn't just come out of nowhere um but then again also on the flip side I don't want the life a lot of times that these people's fathers have or had in their Prime while they're making the most money you know for me I would much rather make um you know I would say this I would Much rather make 100,000 a
year or let's say 50,000 a year to make it easier for people I much rather make 50,000 a year and be able to choose my schedule decide my schedule of course you know let's say if I have a couple meetings in the day or something like that uh I could change it or I could change it spec or I could plan it you know a couple days in advance I'm going to block off six hours here four hours here cuz I want to go do visit this waterfall with one of my Friends right like that
I think is and be able to travel wherever right so I would much rather make $50,000 a year and have uh location and time freedom than make a million a year and be every single day you have to be in the office at this time and uh you you have to ask when you can take vacations and you don't have location freedom and as I said if you're in a situation where you know the government decides oh we're going to keep you in your houses for Whatever reason you know whatever it is next you know
let's say something like uh you know the climate changing which the climate always changes so that's why they had to Rebrand it to climate change because global warming was an factual statement but anyways that's a toic for another day uh so anyways um you know let's say they decide they want to do climate lockdowns next um so if you're chained down to a country you know you could be a baller right you Think you're [ __ ] a hot shot you think you're you're someone serious because you make a million or $2 million a year
now you're still a little [ __ ] because the government tells you no you have to stay at home you can't travel you can't go anywhere you're chained you're stuck right so for me I would much rather make 50,000 a year and still have location and time Freedom now look if you can have all of them you know that's really and I will say most people I think really if you can make 100,000 a year especially because of the location freedom because you know you can go to places like Cape Town you can go to
places like Bali you can go to places like medine you can go to you know uh these sort of places a lot of places in Eastern Europe and you know obviously the US dollar goes a lot further there or you know that amount of money goes a lot further so making 100,000 you know really there is more like making four 500,000 a year and yeah you know I think for most people Financial Freedom is really just making 100K a year um you know make of course making a million a year is much nicer making 10
million a year and really like it's it's game over um but more that the 100,000 a year is also maybe you also know that uh Carol Dre Carol Dre I don't know if I pronounce the name correctly Carol D from the book mindset something with mindset and she talks about um happiness And when are you happy now right and a lot of people say money doesn't make you happy but the thing is money does make you happy to a certain level money look money basically what money is money is a deal with the devil so
it just depends how you structure the deal so that's what most people don't understand it's of course what people don't understand is that usually with more money becomes more responsibility and people responsibility isn't necessarily fun Right with more money comes more chaos and more chaos in your life isn't particularly fun most people want very little responsibility right this is why the whole digital Nomad laptop lifestyle that appeals to people even just being a you know a remote video editor that makes 50,000 a year and you travel and you edit videos for clients on upwork and
you know whatever so that really appeals to people because uh you know um because that freedom aspect of it so it Just depends on I said it depends on how you structure the deal the thing is more people you know if you could make a 100 million year or you could could make 100,000 a year but the deal is structured in the exact same way which is same amount of responsibility same amount of peace or you know or lack of chaos then of course 100 million is better you would be stupid not to take the
100 million right but the issue is as people make more and more money they Add more [ __ ] to their life and that they add more [ __ ] to life they add more responsibilities they add more you know more employees more hires more this more that and uh you know that basically causes issues and that's really where the unhappiness stems from so yeah you know when they say More Money More Problems that's what that alludes that it's true that's what that alludes to but if you structure the deal correctly then no more money
uh does not Necessarily mean less happiness when do you start thinking about that deal CU I think most people that start wanting to make money the entrepreneur life they start Drop Shipping or whatever and they're just after more money money money money money money did you start thinking about the deal with the devil early on so like oh maybe I want to make a million a year but these are my core values that I never want to break or did you have to like [ __ ] it up yeah and Then remember like oh no
I don't there were certain things like for example even in 2018 you know when everything started happening and everyone moved to remote Zoom meetings for me I was like I've been doing this for two years like I made a decision in 2018 uh and my agency at the time I said cuz I even had clients in London and I basically decided I ref actually you know I have uh Dutch people to thank for this uh it was actually because of Dutch people is The reason I decided I will never ever do an inperson meeting ever
again cuz you [ __ ] it's a coffee at the beginning of the meeting it's a coffee in the middle of the meeting and it's a coffee at the end of the meeting you guys drink so much [ __ ] coffee it's insane every time I had meetings in Holland uh I I would go there and they'd offer me a coffee at the beginning then 45 minutes into a meeting they' offer me a coffee and then at the end before I Leave they offer me a coffee and the whole meeting is an hour and a
half and it could have been 15 minutes and I was just like this is I'm sick and tired of this so I made the decision in 2018 that I would only do remote Zoom meetings right so I guess that was for example a part of the equation that's you know I always knew that I wanted location freedom and I knew that if for me having uh doing remote meetings not physically having to go somewhere for a meeting That was freedom and I knew that uh for example uh office I didn't want an office because I
didn't want to be chained down to a specific place so these were specific things that I made decisions early on then when it comes to the whole uh you know deal with the devil I haven't perfected it right because I also I I like I like the stress I'm not going to lie you know I was telling I was telling a girl this the other day Cuz you know we were comparing morning routines you know uh you know back in the day my morning routine used to be very peaceful I had two phones one would
go in the vault and then I would have another one I would have another one that only had Aura auring on there audible Spotify in Uber I think and I would only use that phone for the first few hours of the day uh because I wanted to get deep focused work done you know my mornings would be very uh how gym Meditate very peaceful all that stuff calm now I wake up I open my eyes and I feel it like there's this ball of stress right it starts in my stomach and I I I the
second I open my eyes and I feel a coarse up into my shoulders and once it reaches my shoulders my eyes just open wide open I could be on two hours sleep that's how I'm out of bed right and but you know weirdly enough I like it now right and and the first thing I do in the morning the first thing I do I wake Up I go to bathroom look myself in the mirror you know wash my face get some cool water on my face check my phone that's it right and back in the
day I to me that was like blasphemy like that was like the wor and that's the thing what you do for me six years into having uh you know my businesses that's it's very different to what you do on day one right like I can tell right now Jeff Bezos when he wakes up he does not um you know go and meditate for 30 minutes And then stretch and do yoga journal and then get to no he wakes up and he checks his phone straight away right so it's what you do at one stage is
very different to what you do at a different stage so I guess I'm just in a different stage of life um so yeah you know the reason I say all that is because for me I've embraced the chaos like I like the chaos and I could very easily scale back my I mean look I'll give you a perfect example my whole philosophy around Agency my whole philosophy around agency is you can use an agency to get to 9 figures and the way you do it is basically you do what I did which is scale your
agency up to around a million a year I got to in my best year I got to 1.5 million right I could not take it any further than that I tried I tried for four years I tried my best remote no office the at least the way that I had it structure I could not take it past 1.5 million uh uh dollars a year in Profit that was my cap which is very diff difficult reality for me to accept because I'm very competitive and so I did that I did that for a few years and
I realized okay an agency the thing that an agency is is the best cash flow model on earth right but it's really boring and it's not fulfilling right and it's not like you're not going to look back and like wow I really [ __ ] changing my I changed the world with an agency what an agency allows you to do is Allows you to just put all that money into Investments so if you can get to million a year you invest for four or five years and then if you make the right Investments you can
easy take it to a 10 million Investment Portfolio once you're at 10 million that's it you've won now for some people it's 3 million you know for some people it's 2 million for some people if they have a million invested that's it they can actually kind of retire and live in Thailand and all that stuff so it depends what it is for me I think 10 million is just a good number for everyone for some people that might seem scary but yeah I just think that's a good aspirational number really at that point you know
you buy some property you have some different Investments and that basically pays and funds your entire life and then from there which is basically what I did right I took my agency profits I invested it and I got To over 10 million then I basically made a decision earlier uh in the year do I retire or do I keep going because I basically I did I I was thought about I'm like maybe I retire from like the age of like 22 to like 32 and just go live and live a [ __ ] crazy life
and all this stuff and then come back at 32 and start my next business and basically just live off of you know a you know 800,000 a million a year for my investments and I realized I [ __ ] man I Can't do it I like I like chaos you know I like chaos and that's just me personally so you know uh we're really really pushing hard with my software company uh that I started with uh the husband of one of my agency clients two years ago agency flow and that's been a very interesting journey
and interesting ride you know a lot of times yeah software is the interesting World it pisses me off a lot because the company is worth so much and it annoys me that It's worth so much like I'm pissed off that the company's worth this much cuz I I know and that's the thing we we have a crazy model it's very similar to clickfunnels we get paid to acquire a customer most companies have to go $400 in the hole so we have no investors right I mean bear in mind I have the largest audience and I
have the largest audience and e-learning Company on Earth for agency owners right so I mean you think about the fact That let's say you know uh we get 10,000 customers a year let's say even 20% and it's much higher than 20% but let's say 20 uh 20% of those people use agency flow because it's the perfect solution for them well then that's 2,000 customers a year at you know an average of 130 because we have a 95 plan and a 245 plan and then some more Enterprise plans but let's say an average of 135 uh
or let's just say for let's just call 150 you know uh For ease of use that's 300,000 extra Mr that's 3.6 million a year that year I've just added an extra $36 million to Value to my personal net worth to my and and it's not like this is a oh maybe someone might buy it we've had offers already it's cuz we structured it in the in the you know in the correct way from day one right in the same way you know Logan Paul and KSI they structured Prime in a i when they started they
did not think oh man the cash flow they they thought Okay when are we going to sell it for a billion and how do we make sure we get the billion sale or whatever five billion or whatever their number is as quick as humanly possible and that doesn't mean they've set in a wrong way for the investors the investors are going to get the best deal of their entire [ __ ] life right because they've got a brand that has Legacy loyalty to it right the thing is you know if a day comes where agency
flow is No longer my software company these people that have used it for four or five years and like [ __ ] Eman helped me go from signing my first client I Eman and uh not only Eman but uh Eman and agency flow were the reason I signed my first client were the reason that I sign my first five clients and I was using agency flow and they'll always attach that and even if someone else is the owner they'll always have that sort of Legacy loyalty to it so um yeah reason I Say that is
because that's kind of like my next venture and I could have or the the next big thing that I'm working on and I could have uh that and this year I decided for once just cuz yeah I had a bit more time after uh I shut down the agency in July but I kind of made the decision back in February uh and I also shut down one of my other businesses my e-commerce brand we make like these blue light blockers GGI yeah yeah so I decided to take a little bit more off my Plate um
so I had a bit more time so we we also decided we basically take social media a little bit more seriously and uh we you know we mapped out a plan and it's working quite well it's working okay I guess you could say we'd like to talk about that part a bit more maybe a bit selfishly because we're trying to grow on the social media part as well but also because I think it's very interesting because a lot of people look at maybe like Mr Beast for example as The person he's the next famous billionaire
because building social media companies in the way of we create content people watch that and then you can build Brands off of that is very very valuable what if you want to share is the strategy that you use to go from I think six to 12 months back at maybe like 300,000 subscribers on YouTube now to now over 800,000 so yeah obviously I'm in an Interesting position right now we in the last 28 days I think this uh last time I checked last 28 days was 280 285,000 subscriber growth so that makes us the fastest
growing channel in history on the side of YouTube like anything Finance personal development you know uh for example Tate at his best month cuz I was curious I was like [ __ ] has anyone ever grown this quick cuz I'd never personally seen it before so I looked at uh went back and saw Tate's stats in his Best month when he was the most Googled man on Earth he grew 250,000 subscribers in that month um and at at the moment we're on track for 300 you know if you actually extrapolated over 30 days so that
sneo um you know if you look at these guys even looking back I saw some other people in the more tra traditional Finance space I looked at like grah Stefan I think his best month was so yeah we're the fastest growing channel in history Right thank you but that comes with you know I always say like I'm I'm always very wary with the whole congratulations thing because it's you know obviously thank you for the comment but for me I guess that's also one of the reasons I wake up every single morning and I'm like I
feel the stress in my body not just because of the YouTube stuff you know because of the other companies as well I'm like hey I've gone to a point now Where at least in the industries I'm in for you know at least on YouTube I feel as though for what I'm doing I'm at the top of the game for what you know my specific Little World in software of course there's multi-billion dollar software companies but what we're doing at agency FL like I'm we're we're we're killing it and we're killing on a big scale right
at the e-learning company right I don't really talk about my numbers much you Know but we're doing well and we're doing well on on a very very large scale so I wake up in the morning and that's I guess that's the first thing I'm like there's someone right now who looks at me and is like [ __ ] that guy this person might respect but he's like [ __ ] that guy I want a spot right and that's a you know and that's actually one of the most difficult things about getting to a certain place
in life is once you look of course I can look towards people who Are billionaires or people who are this but like kind of in my realm there's not too many people I can look to and be like that's the next person I want to overtake so there's something always very powerful about having someone that you can look at even if you deeply respect them someone you look at and you're like [ __ ] that guy he had his time now it's my time right and feeling very much yeah and D it's such a powerful
feeling it's a nice feeling in A weird way of course you know being the underdog is the best thing on earth so yeah you know uh kind of related to um uh to YouTube and and the whole sphere uh yeah this year we basically decided we'd grow uh and not only on YouTube we decided uh other platforms as well me and my team cuz dude honestly la like I I guess for me YouTube was all just like a secondary just a side thought because I had I've been uploading since 2015 so for me it was
always just habit like I I Uploaded you can go look back at my first YouTube channel when I was uh 15 years old back in 2015 and you can see videos of me in 2016 you know taking the bus talking about like [ __ ] man I can't wait to afford to be able Ubers to use Ubers and like you can see me buying the books that I'm reading for that week and going to a place in London called Brookton book mongers which is you know a used bookstore because it was cheaper than buying it
from waterstones like Brand new and you know all this stuff so I guess I've always just been used it so I just kept it up over the years and you know last year it's funny me and Tristan who's my uh you know he's head of the creative team we laugh about it now because last year I would basically just like be like okay I want to talk about this I I have this idea I have in mind I would just sit down I'd record after we decide okay what's the title in thumbnail right I would
not give any Thought to is the will the video perform does it have chance to have a high CTR like nothing right and it was only this year I said it was kind of when I decided other businesses I'd sort of you know um I'd shut down the agency um I'd shut down gadgy NBC I just kind of really just wanted to focus on the software company specifically it was only at that point where I was like you know what like I feel like I have something important to say and more People should hear it
I'll be H that that was my main thing so I was like okay like let's figure out this whole YouTube thing and uh yeah from there we started growing and we started growing quite quickly so I think at the beginning of the year we started at 180,000 subscribers we're currently on 800 180 so yeah quite a lot was at 700,000 in a year uh and by the end of the year I think we're on Pace to do uh 1.4 million or 1.5 million by the year So yeah quite a yeah quite quite a decent amount
of growth but outside of that even right now uh between Tik Tok real and shorts I think last month we did 120 million views um just to know did you create like a separate account so I'm I'm willing to tell you guys everything so okay you know for example uh with the uh with obviously I saw what Tate did with t as said I'm I'm in a very fortunate position I have to say a massive massive Thank you to uh guys like Tate guys like sneo me doing what I'm doing now and who knows maybe
tomorrow everything goes away right who like you never know but for the right now a lot of the uh success that I'm having is on the back of being able to see what other people did so as I said I have to say massive thank you to Tate after say massive uh thank you to sneo guys that obviously pushed the boundaries so then I was I could kind of see hey where is the Boundary you know we kind of talked off camera how right now my YouTube channel I feel as though it's like a little
Trojan Horse I feel it's like because I'm I'm basically I have the ideologies that sort of that world of you know um you know that whole world of Tate and sneo and you know maybe guys like fresh and fit and you know I you know yeah exactly like just Pro men taking accountability being the best men possible for not only themselves but for Their future wife their future children just you know make men great again basically right so you know I uh I have those ideologies and pretty much all those ideologies stem from uh you
know uh I want I should get my mom on my YouTube channel more again but you know I have a single mom uh grew up in the Soviet Union so like I have very traditional you know like even just things like paying the bill like I you know at at the age of like four or five Years old I knew like if I you know me as a man if I don't don't pay the bill and look of course it's different if you know your girlfriend runs out and gets a coffee for you or something
right or let's say you know a lot of times uh you know if I'm if I'm with a girl and you know whatever I pay for the big things I'll let you know she'll she'll fight with me to pay for the TW you know a 12 pound coffee for the two you know of course stuff like that is a different Story but you know so I I grew up with a law of those ideals so I have those ideals but I still want to go Mass market and still be exposed to a lot of new
audience so I'm kind of like doing Finance kind of the finance YouTuber thumbnails titles but I sneak in a lot of sort of um those ideologies like a trojan horse because I'm basically trying to grow not get banned off YouTube cuz you know let's not be around the bush if you do get banned and If you do get a d platform off YouTube it is a massive massive hit um so yeah I'm trying to to play the line so reason I say all this is because Tate was an example where I got to see I
mean he became the most goo he became the most basically the most famous the most Google man on Earth because he decided early in the year to uh release an affiliate marketing straty so look I mean people don't do things just for no reason right people always Have to be incentivized financially to really you know post tons and tons of content like look of course you know I'm sure Tate had you know many just general fan pages I've had many fan pages and I do have many fan pages where people just post for whatever reason
but for people to do it properly they need to be incentivized so for Tate what he did was he did his affiliate marketing strategy which as I said a lot of just [ __ ] idiots you know a lot of Leftists were like oh it's MLM it's this and I'm like you they don't understand that multi-level marketing involves multiple levels and I don't know what they don't understand about like no it's just a business that if you can bring a customers gives an affiliate commission there's no level underneath that that that's not multi-level marketing it's
it's the same thing that Amazon has right it's the same thing that pretty much all software companies have which Is an affiliate program but anyways so he put that out and that's why people just started taking his clips from everywhere and you know you got had regular kids you know making even let's say $300 a month you know even just 300 you know I mean let alone you know I'm sure there was guys that were making especially if they started early and really GRE their accounts you know I heard Whispers that some people were making
5K 10K um but let's just say even $300 a month if they were making $300 a month and what they get to watch someone that they really respect and enjoy watching and they get to make clips and what make an extra four or five whatever it is a month you know by being an affiliate for hust University so I saw that it did obviously you know it made him very very popular but I and then I saw a couple other people emulate it but I also saw the drawbacks to it and the drawbacks to it
is you know there were There was narratives and there was things that I'm sure Tate would want presented of himself in 2018 2019 that he doesn't want presented in 2022 and the thing is you can't go to Tate wisdom 7 and be like hey bro take this down like you can't just tell every single person take it down take it down and obviously these people are most incentivized to post the most sensationalistic stuff because that's the stuff that gets the most clicks the Most views all that stuff so they would post the stuff that I
guess is the most poorest reflection of um you know of T so and I think at the end of day that was basically his downfall right is the thing is look if he could go back and he could tell every single person that posted you know that clip or that video of him where he's quite obviously joking that you know if someone one you know if he had to administer CPR he would never administer CPR to a guy right because That's gay like of course that's a joke of course it's a joke right but you
know if he could go back and wipe those and delete all those and delete anything else that you know may have you know he may have said in a joke or taken out of context or whatever of course he would have been loved to but he doesn't have that ability cuz you know basically the cat's out the bag at that at that point so I decided that you know that the short Form content taking Clips that's great want to emulate that but I want to have control right and I want to have control and I
want I want people to really have respect for the brand and understand that you know we're me at the end of day I represent my companies as well you know and if they work for the company and everything needs to be look I've got stuff on my Tik Tok where it's you know I you've seen just even in this podcast alone I Will say anything that's on my mind but at the end day it still needs to be within reason you know there's even stuff like I was explaining on a stream I was explaining to
sneo that here it's very common if someone works for you as in like if someone is your maid right your maid or your driver it's very common that you take their passport in uh in UAE and and then obviously you inform the government hey this person works for me they're now you know under My care and my responsibility that can sound very bad when it's clipped that can sound you know make uh UAE seem like this tyrannical place when it's not the case at all right it's just you know it's can be common practice in
in you know in certain professions so you know we have uh a review team and especially now as I'm growing especially now as I'm the fastest growing Channel on YouTube in history in the space especially now we have a review Team a moderation team which looks at it and goes hey from a brand perspective could that be taken out of context because I saw how it destroy to other guys right and uh you know I definitely have to be careful with that stuff but I saw what Tate did and I decided you know I'm going
to emulate it but I'm going to emulate in my specific way so we have at the moment 22 full-time people I think it's going to go up to Spencer who leads that department it's going to go up To the thing is whenever whenever we do applications for any job in my company uh will that be a software company it's it's usually a lot less because it's a lot more Technical and specific positions but let's say for the e-learning company it'll be 800 to, applicants so we get a lot of applicant we we for for G
specifically we get maybe 15,000 people year applying to work for us and so we have a lot of candidates we have to go through but uh You know I think we got 800 applicants for the last round of hiring we did for short short form editors and uh I think he had 80 interviews so I think we're probably going to the goal is to bring on another 20 people so at the end of the month we'll have 42 people full-time and by the way these are full-time people that are a part of the company uh
you know actually later today today's the last Friday of the month so every Friday of the month at 9:00 Dubai time I Have a call with um sort of the core team so uh you know the core team operations uh success uh customer service like the core team of it's around I think 35ish 3540 uh we have like a cocktail hour call at the end of every Friday we have a very good company culture um and then after that I have it with a redistribution team so that it almost feels like it's own little separate
company but yeah so at the moment we're 22 and they're fully integrated in the culture in the company um you know they're part of the cocktail hours uh we have something called better every day so everyone in the company has to post their better every day so whether them at the gym whether that's them at the sauna whether that's them reading a book you know so we have amazing once you start working at uh one of my companies I will say my software company is a little different we haven't been able to Develop as good
of a culture maybe that's just because like I know software developers can be a little weird I'm not like it's but I'm not going to lie it's a little harder to get some emotion out of them you know they just want to work right yeah it's bit of a different story with them but um yeah we have a a great company culture so these people uh you know there's a daily team meeting every day so these people are fully integrated part of the company we have 22 uh and I Believe we have 22 different accounts
um I don't know all all owned all owned by us all owned by us and everyone gets his own new account thenes no so we've got editors then we've got caption writers then we've got ma managers and then we've got people who also do the reporting because for every for every post that goes out we we say you know we look at how much engagement it got we look at how much you know everything and uh basically the goal for next year is 6 Billion views between all the different redistribution platforms at the moment I
think this month will'll end up on around 150 million views so extrapolate that out around whatever 1.82 million sorry 1.82 billion 1.8 to2 billion of uh views a year at the moment uh so that's what we did with the redistribution team uh with the YouTube channel I mean I have three full-time editors three three full-time editors but that's also they have to do other little side projects For the e-learning company uh we were always filming new different bonus programs we can give people and stuff like that um so three full-time ERS and then the one
thing this is probably the only thing it's cuz not many people would realize how important it is or want to do this yeah [ __ ] it whatever I'll tell you guys so I have three full-time thumbnail editors and when people thought we do yeah okay so so I don't know how you guys structured yours But the way I structure mine is I have three full-time thumbnail editors and they but I'm like full fulltime and and and we only upload one video a week week so the reason I'm having all this growth is not because
of my new uploads it's because of video the videos 18 months ago that are now popping off I I've seen it you they're all changing man bro I'm changing the every week we change eight thumbnails also change what do mean the new ones keep changing as well right no If if the CTR is low then we change it yeah what is low for you because we um we know from Mr be that the percentage of clickr rate between six and 7% can be very great for him um I've seen where I've worked with clients and
sometimes we have like 15% or 20% but they're like pretty small so that's logic each video is different you know obviously obviously the more views it gets um you know the lower it's going to be and it really just depends on the concept of Like the thing is there could be videos there's certain videos I upload and I just know it's not going to be like a home run and I know if the CTR is low it might also just be because the title as well and just the concept of the video um so yeah
we have three full-time they're all on base pay so they have a base but then they each one of them gets a $100 bonus for whichever one we choose so so each of them have to for each video so each new upload each week but Then also going back Tristan as I said who uh leads that department he will basically say hey this video or this week we're going to do seven um we're going to rehash these seven videos so basically what will happen is we will then um say okay you you each have to
present five so you each have to present five different options and based on those five different options uh so there's three full-time five each 15 total so we get 15 options for Thumbnails for each video we choose one and whoever uh whichever one wins then they get $100 bonus have you called with uh Mr Beast about this maybe add from film boot I I follow little course from Ed from film boot he's like a great YouTuber knows a lot about how to improve your YouTube video thumbnails titles Etc It also says like thumbnails titles most
important part of the whole video because I would say the concept is the most important the concept of Because then you choose the audience right but then you have like the title on the thumbnail do you choose them like yourself in the past like when was the change when you the the change was this year as I said you know for basically for the longest time YouTube was just like something we just did as like a side thing and we were like uh you know it was just something we did as a side thing and
we were he's just changing this F yeah Yeah we good just had to set up the camera with the power cable but yeah yeah no wor it's working yeah yeah it's plugged in okay it's plugged in just had to do it quickly because I saw that one started blinking but I think we're good for a couple more so basically it started earlier this year when just had a little bit more time on our hands and we're like okay we're going to take the social media thing more seriously so yeah That's kind of when we we
just started you know adding on one thing after the other and I you know each sort of new aspect to different department I was like I don't know if it's necessarily going to work but it's worth trying so when I ended up hiring Spencer to lead the redistribution team I was like I don't know maybe this might just be a big expense it may not be worth it ended up being worth it when I hired the Thumbnail editors like full-time I was like [ __ ] this seems pretty aggressive like you know spend $10,000 a
month on thumbnails like I'm like this I don't know if this going to be worth it but you know it's um quite clearly it's it's worked out and uh yeah it's cool man like it's uh you know I think I told you guys off camera now I'm starting to get offers from not like you know from really good brands that I would be really proud to represent um like yeah Brands that I even use um you know without going into specific names but very good brands and Brands where like if someone saw a sponsorship they'
be like it actually looks cool right cuz it cuz it's like it makes sense it's to my brand it's products that I gen used and promoted in the past and stuff like that like not like you know I'm not no not not like companies like blue or [ __ ] you know whatever the [ __ ] you know these you know I mean Look for some people's brand whatever I guess it works for mine you know definitely not definitely no crypto platforms trading this that you know none that stuff like good stuff I'd actually be
very proud to represent but and I'm getting offers of at the time but this is you know 6 weeks ago and as I said I've grown you know 300K Subs in the last 30 days and we're we're not slowing down anytime soon so you know I I got offers of anywhere Between 1.2 to 1.5 million a year that was just a quote of like here's how much I think you could pull in from sponsorships you know because they uh represent a lot of other very uh you know large channels even much larger than mine and
uh sort of in the same space and yeah I turned it down because you know for me it's important to be able to say what I want to say and you know I just yeah that for me that's super important and you know we'll see I've never had none of my recent uploads I've had a video demonetized who knows maybe something happens in the future but at the moment it's good I am uh I think at the moment we're doing like 110 115,000 pounds a month in AdSense which which is great because obviously bear in
mind it's such a high CPM what's your CPM about I'll be honest I don't know I don't I don't know but I know it's high why High um it's higher than the just ENT your vlogging videos for sure So yeah basically I made a decision I was chatting with the team basically next year and this this is all kind of relays back into the whole thing of like what's the next thing and knowing that someone is going to take your spot because at the end day people get bored right and I can do the sit
down stuff for maybe a year two more years but then people my view you know there's going to be someone new there's going to be someone new there's going to be someone New exciting it's the viewership is going to go down right so you always have to figure out how can you reinvent yourself and all this stuff so basically next year we're doing Vlogs right basically I decide I'm going to get to 1.5 million subs and then from next year I'm going to start doing Vlogs I'll still do some sit down and I'm deciding how
I arrange it maybe I'll still keep Ean gaggi as like the sit down you know um informational message this sort of Stuff and then I'll have a separate Vlog Channel or I'll decide how I go about it or I might make the main channel the Vlog um Vlog Channel and then have a separate one Whatever uh the case is but you know I look at the way things are and I saw the last 3 4 years obviously whole sit down stuff works very well like people loved you know Graham Stefan came you know out of
the warw and then you know guys like me Kevin and yeah beza but I would say he's in a different Camp cuz he's bro he's just a [ __ ] Legend like his the like his the because the thing is for me his are like actual movies right like they're actual you know they're short form movies they're stories right uh and that to me that's very different to like a grah Stefan video or like a Ali abdal like they're not it's not the same level of effort that needs to go into it so you know
I see all this stuff and I'm like I know everything goes in cycles and everything Goes in waves and I don't know if you guys remember but in like 2014 2015 2016 it was all about Vlogs right yes and I'm I'm just being a gamble but I just think people are craving Vlogs again and people are craving and so and the way that I want to do it is and it's so funny a lot of people I used to watch now I used to watch them back in 2016 I'm now like they're reaching out to
me they're wanting to do stuff and like collaborate like I don't know I don't Know if you guys know a guy called Crea Tyler yes for sure man yeah he exploded quite a while back right yeah so he was like super and he's such a talented filmmaker so he he reached out to me uh and what we finally found a time to meet up in London so I want to do like really strong visuals in the same way creat did like super like almost music video esque mix that with iPhone Vlogs like so like 30%
of the video is super high production 30% of it is iPhone Vlogs and Then 30% of which no one's ever done before but I love it so much VHS okay V like literally handheld VHS wind the tape import into the computer because for me like I love I have a big film camera collection and I love that feeling of like that intimate feeling of film and if feel VHS it's kind of that same thing so uh yeah I want to do that next year and I decided um cuz the thing is in my life I
do a lot of stuff that is very opulent and I don't talk about It to like for me like going and buying a 250,000 lb watch it's just that's just normal right and it's I guess for me I don't I I've gotten used it and I don't realize that for some people it's very motivating you know especially because you can watch back and you can see me back in 2015 and 2016 you can see my whole journey from day one so I realized it's very motivating for people and or I guess sometimes I forget that
so next Year we're doing Vlogs but I also decided next year that I'm going to do I'm going to give away in the Vlogs throughout the year a million dollars um cuz the thing is uh in 2019 I started building schools in Nepal I started taking a large portion of profits from the education company and yeah a large portion of profits from there go to building schools in Nepal I built schools for 3,000 kids uh fully funded all myself um or from the profits from The e-learning company but I guess that is technically my company
so I did that and I think that's great and I think everyone should have their philanthropic thing that's you know there the million next year I just think it's I don't want to show all this opulence and wealth and all this stuff like you know I can I can talk about what we do in Nepal and we're going to go visit in February and we're going to go visit all the schools because I I Haven't had a chance to in three years but it's I guess it's kind of different when I I'm like oh I
just wired another whatever 100,000 200,000 for the next project um it's very different for people compared to like even you watch some of the nek videos you know and they just give $100 to you know a waiter in Balian and that probably makes you feel more emotion than you know uh you know me signing off on you know our next project for a quarter million right and You feel more Emotion by just seeing someone being given $100 so I think it's it's you know for me uh it's it's important that I integrate some philanthropy in
the mix next year just always I always try to remind people and anyone who I talk to I always push them at least 10% of what you make giveaway you know like for me it's very very important so yeah next year I decid I'm giving away a million dollar publicly over the space of a year but I decid Actually you know it's more fun I'm going to give away my AdSense cuz then people feel like they're involved cuz right now my ad sense is like I said it converted into Dollars like $130,000 a month uh
so I mean look it's it's great that's $1.6 million a year in my pocket so I guess when I say I don't you know me uploading on YouTube is from the kindness of my own heart I can't say that anymore earlier this year I could say that now that I make you know 1.6 Million year it's whatever it's for me it's not crazy money these days but it's it's definitely good it's definitely you know keeps the lights on but I decided um next year even if you know things start getting crazy and we get like
$250,000 a month in AdSense if [ __ ] man if we can do $3 million next year in AdSense and people stay and it's a good reason for people to watch the videos and you know not skip ads and stuff like that because they know there's a reason For it the more money we can make from AdSense I'm going to give it all [ __ ] away right sort of like Mr B style as well you know uh but just slightly different I don't want people you know cuz obviously stay on an island his videos
are great dude I love his videos and he's honestly I have so much respect for that dude um but yeah I don't know I don't want to make people you know it's a clear demographic yeah slightly different imagine Mr Beast sort of level With some of like the more nek when I travel right for me it'll just be more more when I travel those guyss are genius as yeah 100% the thing I like the most about Nel is the way they set up the story for the next Vlog so they really know how to keep
people hooked for every video it's so crazy man and for the giveaways itself like for for example 50,000 100,000 how do you going to give it away is it like a lot of People that watch you are entrepreneurs or want to do something with their life do you just give money away or so I was actually having a strong debate with my team about this yesterday we were talking about it and my team was like oh we should do something that's we should sponsor entrepreneurs or something and I'm like I don't personally want to box
myself in like here the thing I I don't want to say I'm only going to do it for sometimes I'm going to give the away Money I'm going to give away money and it's just going to be on stupid [ __ ] like for example I have this idea like uh I'm sure one day I will be but I should I should be sponsored by Laur Piana I like I wear that's pretty half my wardrobe is out of laurana it's either laurano Brunello zenya Hermes like it's just that right and you know all of my
friends that make money I kind of try to get him into like some of the old money style and this and That so you know for one video I just want to give away 100 pairs of Laur pias right and Laura pias are you know are like whatever 8 800 lb shoes that's 80 grand $100,000 right there that's stupid that's not smart that's not like if you compare that to building a school right cuz I'm still doing that no matter what but I don't want to box myself in and be like oh everything I do
needs to make sense I want to be able to just give away $100,000 you know in [ __ ] Laura Piana shoes you know just to to people and and you know hand deliver it and and get them into the brand and and all this stuff and you know bring back dressing you know old school gentlemanly and I want to be able to do that and then the next week um you know pay for someone's medical treatment or the you know the the next week you know sponsor 10 kids you know for their education in
South Africa for example you know a Cape Town Where I have a house I spend a lot of time you know or the next week just whatever it is even if it's just $3,000 on a small little gift and uh you know at the moment I won't say that count name but in the process of getting uh a username and what we're going to do is uh we're going to say hey if you have an interesting story there's no guarantees we're going to get you know tens of thousands of applicants a year if you have
an interesting story if you have Even if it's either for yourself or you want to nominate someone else go reach out out to our Instagram here and basically we're just going to keep a catalog of hey in South Africa there's these three cases that we have in um Amsterdam there's these two cases that we have in London there's these four cases that we have in Miami there's these you know three cases and we're going to keep a log in anytime I travel and I get with you know close to those Cities then we'll try and
help out those people in those situations right so you know I don't want to box myself in I don't want to say you know it only has to be stuff that makes sense you know um obviously for me there will be things are more important for example anything to do anything slightly remotely to do with a single mom that's a soft spot for me anything to do with single mom anything to do with um like domestic abuse you know my real father was Alcoholic abusive so that's you know something that's very uh near and dear
to my heart so yeah it'll be a wider array of things right even if it's you know one day even if it's we're just in Bali and we decide okay we're going to give away $110,000 in tips today you know like I I remember we were in Mexico was one of my employees weddings and it was just like so I met some of my team in Miami and it's you know it's so funny how like in life it's not like the Glamorous moments and I know for me it's not the Glamorous moments we were in
Miami and I had some of my team in Miami and uh I had to fly from Dubai to a city called Guan in Mexico for one of my employees weddings and uh so I flew to Miami first and decided okay I'll go Miami and then from Miami I'll just fly private from Miami to Guan Guan back once the wedding's done so I just told my team you know most of them have never flown private well none of them have Ever flown private before so they were like okay cool it was very exciting that was a
cool experience for you know for me to witness other people flying private for the first time and like you know for the team to have that experience but we had far more fun when we were in Guan and we were walking down the street and I was like I saw a pickup truck and we were going to uh we were going to a restaurant and I was like guys [ __ ] it let's just I'm just going To pay him so I I just paid the guy $100 right for a 10-minute ride and we all
just got in the back of this pickup truck like all eight of us and just sitting around and uh and I just pulled out cash I probably pulled out maybe like $1,000 and we just started giving it cuz it was around like 5:00 or 6:00 and the schools were getting out and I gave some to my team and we just started giving money to children and it was just like I don't know I mean look you it's Literally $1,000 but it just it was I don't know it's just such a nice moment with me my
team um so it's yeah with with some of the charity stuff next year it's I don't want to box myself in we'll you know we'll do small things we'll do big things we'll do things that make a lot of sense and we can really change someone's life we'll do things that make absolutely no sense like giving away a 100 pairs of lur pianos or the other thing that I really want to do is man I [ __ ] love alpacas I love alpacas right so I want to go and you know I want to go
to Peru or I want to go somewhere in South America and I just want to give $50,000 I just want to spend a few days at an alpaca farm and I just want to get $50,000 to in cash well I that might be a little tough getting it there but you know I just want to get $50,000 to uh an alpaca farmer makes no sense yeah but I you know I just think it'll be a lot of fun But you can do it like the last couple of years from what I know with mon mode
and other videos you always lived a very controlled life and now you have like the time of your life right now you can let it go or and you can just choose whatever you want yeah I think it's really good and I'm really curious like can also give money to entrepreneurs for their business but is that the same as giving your son Money well they were like they didn't earn it themselves is that the same for entrepreneurs when you give them money well here's what it is I just don't believe entrepreneurs as a whole should
take money CU you know entrepreneurs you know you've got these entrepreneurs where they're uh you know they're abilities are a two out of 10 and they're trying to get into a nine out of 10 business right before last year I would not have been a I actually had Many opportunities to start a software company back in 2018 2019 look you know talk about being honest with yourself I was honest with myself I look at myself the miror and I went you're not ready as an entrepreneur you don't have the abilities that you need you don't
have the skill set that you need and you don't also have the um mental fortitude because it is it is a very of all the businesses I've started the software company is very very difficult right And yeah you know so that's why I don't necessarily believe that it's smart to give people investment I don't believe it's smart to give entrepreneurs investment because their abilities and their skill set are a two out of 10 and they're trying to get into businesses that are a 9 out of 10 difficulty and you're they're basically setting themselves up to
fail and I just believe Pro prove yourself and this is why I like this is why I still talk about Agency as a business model right and by the way I don't care about look it doesn't need to be agency the most important thing is it needs to be an online service-based business because you can not get a client for six months and nothing happens that's the best part you know with other business models let's say for example even trading trading let's say in trading in six months you could ruin your entire [ __ ]
life you could ruin your entire [ __ ] life with let's say even uh a Drop Shipping or you know Amazon FBA or whatever you can ruin your entire [ __ ] life because you can go okay I'm going to spend $3,000 on ads and you spend $3,000 on ads and you make no money or you make very little money you lose 2,400 of it and then you have Sun uh sunk cost fallacy and you're like no no no like I the next product it's going to work and then you syn in another 2,000 and
you really you know for some People a five grand hit really [ __ ] them up right whereas the reason I like agency or service based online business model is because you cannot sign a clan for 6 months and what's your expense zero zero you know I'll be my business partner would not be happy when me saying this yeah whatever [ __ ] it even let's say agency flow let's say use agency flow if you try to cancel agency flow we have a a scaling uh um we have a scaling plan which is $19 so
anyone that Tries to cancel you know we don't want people coming in at $19 right we only want we want people who are serious and will pay the 95 but if someone trustly we have 19 because we understand for some people you know it's it's a little tough they're just trying to get off the ground and stuff like that so you know let's say you know after your first month you go [ __ ] is7 sign a client blah blah okay cool you pay $19 a month that's not going to ruin anyone's life Right or
let's say you decide to become a whatever an online uh coach for something okay what's your expenses you know maybe a couple software is you know $30 $40 so any sort of online service provider uh I think that's where most people should start or work for someone you you know like I say this all the time work for someone you know in order to be a boss you need to know how to be an employee right and I guess I feel a little maybe I feel a little inauthentic Saying that because I never had a
boss technically but I had clients so I didn't have one boss I had 12 bosses you know up until really up until the first two years of my agency I really was a little [ __ ] like I was someone's little [ __ ] right because I did you know there wasn't the same education when I started my agency that there is now on how to actually structure things correctly so you know go do an apprenticeship but also don't go do an apprenticeship and And think oh I'll work for you for free okay cool for
a lot of people working for free you actually cause more headaches like that person the time that it takes to train you cost more than it would to just hire someone who's fully trained already right so you still need to have enough self-awareness to know you know what makes sense to who so with that aside go take an apprenticeship go uh take an apprenticeship a low paying position go work at a company work your Way up uh or start some sort of online service based business that's another great option uh and if you're really good
I mean you know there's some companies out there where look I have people in my company who make 600 700 Grand a year you know and the reason they work for me is because they work they make just as much money as they could on their own but they're part of a team you know like that's the other thing I will say is I would if I had to Make if I had to make a hundred million a year but I had no team or I you know was making whatever I'm making now let's say
10 12 15 right business have grown a lot this year between the both of them you know let's say I'm making whatever have to choose between 10 or 100 I would take the 10 every single day if I get to work with my team like it's uh that's also where i' I've noticed a lot and I've noticed this a lot with um a lot of the Crypto guys as well uh they make a lot of money and I you know I don't say this in a bad way Ed I genuinely like I feel for them
even they make a lot of money and then they're just lonely as [ __ ] and they have no one to talk to and they have no reason to work right there's no calls that they have to do there's no check-ins there's no I said this you know the last Friday of every single month is like I look forward to it you know I I look forward to that more than Anything else you can imagine getting on a call cocktail hour with all my team and just having those shared experiences so uh you know that's
how thing I will say is um even if you can do an apprenticeship and you're part of the right company uh it can also be very very fulfilling so long story short that's why I would never give someone an investment because I'd be like why would I give you an investment when you haven't proved yourself now it's Different if it's different if it's a very established entrepreneur that's already won and succeeded and you know let's say they're used to you know doing you know let's say they're they're used to having businesses that do seven figures
in turnover and you know make a million year in revenue and do you know 150 Grand in profit like at least I understand that person knows how to run a business and stuff like that and they need something and they need investment To start a business that will be 10 million a years 10 million a year in revenue and 1.5 million in profit or 2 million profit that I can understand but you know uh cuz someone in my team mentioned that they were like oh why don't we just sponsor like entrepreneurs and give them investment
and I'm like because we're giving like it's the to me it's kind of like the same thing as giving money to a homeless person it's like it might help for a short time but The day they're still stuck with the same problem right which is a lack of skill set obviously you know the homeless thing it's a much much more Nuance topic but you know in my opinion I think this the uh the same uh train of thought still applies how would you go about maybe like investing time obvious obviously time for you isn't even
probably worth more than the money you can invest but I think having the time to call with you for 10 minutes that's a Giveaway I would [ __ ] enter yeah a lot of people would that that's something I do think about yeah I I have thought about that I want to do that um you know it's funny actually the other day I put out um someone commented and it made me very very it it hit my heart very very heavy someone comment on one of my YouTube videos and was like oh I've you know
I have dreams you know of being a millionaire and you know your videos I I can already imagine myself a Millionaire but I don't think I'm ever going to get there because I think cancer is going to get me first and I saw that and I told this person I put on my social media I said reach out to me and I will spend $30,000 and I will get you the best experts in my corner to help you get through this uh and then I also mentioned on there uh probably one of the reasons I'll
I'll you know probably one of the reasons I'll get killed eventually at some point In life I basically talked about how chemo chemo is one of the worst things a person could ever ever ever do to try to get through cancer and in my personal opinion please don't kill me um this is all just my opinions um and uh I saw that and that's fine that's all fine and well and of course the 30,000 and getting the help from you know experts I've worked with in the past holistic health experts which you know is the
only way you can fix Something like that CU of course you know what happens is chemo some of my numbers I know very very well don't quote me on the stat and I guarantee that you know Google has wiped this cuz Google wipes a lot of stuff but I think it's something like after 5 years the something it's it's like 90% plus people die from chemo after 5 years even the people that uh you know go into remission and recover you know for two years they might be Fine but at the end they've nuked their
body right they're taking time bomb after that right so uh you know of course getting the help from the experts in my corner that was great but the more important thing I said is and I will fly you to London in one year and we'll hang out for two days and that alone is probably more powerful than anything else anything else on Earth is is like hope you know is Hope and um funny enough me And this guy are talking he's he's Swedish so it's a he actually has to use a a Google translate and
I have someone in my team who's helping and and stuff like that uh funny enough it's it's a little unfortunate for me uh he's very apprehensive to go down the natural route he's very uh he actually uh has already started chemo um so it's now become a bit of a tricky situation because I definitely do not want to uh donate money uh and you know put money Towards the cause if is going to chemo cuz I just know that that's not going to end well so it's that's been a bit of a difficult situation for
me um but for example something like that uh that's you know giving my time as that example um you know anyone who's going through any sort of Health scare anyone who's going through any sort of uh Health scare cancer anything like that that's something that I would definitely uh be very interested next Year is giving them the hope and not even so much the hope it's more just the understanding that like for me it's not even a question like let's say for example I'm dealing some with someone who's going through cancer not even acknowledging the
cancer and just being like we're going on holiday next year it's already booked cuz that that's the most powerful thing part of the mindset it's just the mindset it's just having that knowing that's there to look Forward the same interesting thing right with people that are on their their deathbed and the the family needs to come over from a different country and they stay alive for the three days that they're traveling they come walk through the door kisses and goodbye and they're out it's the same thing of just having the mindset like I need to
be here till I've done this thing yeah very interesting how do you look at um because when we go one step further with The holistic experts um what is the different kind of way that they help people like I know we know the traditional way chemo or sometimes operations um but what is the holistic way of doing that then well obviously look it depends on what they're going through but uh once again this is just not MediCal not medical advice I'm just interested this is not medical advice but a lot of the holistic path And
it's very unfortunate if you look into uh Dr sebie if you look into nipy hustle if you look into if you look into a large reason why a lot of people die it's not the reason that they put on the news right it's and that's why I said something's it's funny I told my mom when I was 14 years old before I even had an audience I said when I was 14 years old I told my mom I will get killed for what I want to do in life and I still I still wholeheartedly believe
That and I I know it's stupid I know I should probably shut my mouth but like look you don't [ __ ] with uh big Pharma right and if I get big enough uh yeah it's it's a very very scary very scary slope but the best route that you can go is look cancer really you have cancer I have cancer we all have cancer right now right it's just benign right for me everyone has different opinions for me cancer is simply you have far too much Inflammation in your body and your body simply cannot handle
it anymore right so in order to reverse that the best way and you know they've used keto for a long time to treat cancer so keto carnivore you could genuinely fix you could genuinely cure 50% and this is such a it sounds so simple but uh you know so many people get triggered by it you could generally fix 50% of cancer cases by doing a 21 to 30-day medically supervised water fast a 30-day look it's Not easy it's not going to be enjoyable well then again once you get into ketosis after the first you know
48 hours it's not as difficult as people think you know I've done you know three-day fast before I've done yeah you know two-day dry fasts not even any water uh and you know people think I'm crazy oh how did you not die and yeah um I think the longest fast ever was one year water fast that was the longest fast ever one year someone didn't eat Most people don't realize just one year just drinking water just water did not eat fat guy I've seen a video yeah of course no it has to they have yeah
of course us us we cannot do it right but we we very easily okay not easily but um we very uh comfortably could do 21 days and you can look on YouTube there's so many there's countless cases of people who can't walk that can't have all of these crippling ailments to do water fast and that's it magically C cured Right and that's why I've been that's how I initially found out about carnivore diet I had a autoimmune condition that just kind of came out of nowhere called psoriasis and some people have like you know uhor
you know they have small little red patches stuff like that like mine was [ __ ] all over my body right and it was so bad and it was like it was terrible as well CU it's so visual and you know I went to all the most expensive doctors and they're like Oh yeah you can't do anything about it you can't treat it blah and I was like [ __ ] you right and I they were like yeah you can't you're stuck with it for the rest of your life all you can do is take
these creams or this you know this injection or this or that I was like all right [ __ ] you then so that's how I started stumbling upon I I looked okay what's what what are the ways that people are curing this naturally I saw a raw vegan diet and carnivore diet Basically the two opposite ends of the spectrum and then I basically just thought about it logically I'm like which one makes most sense and I was like raw vegan definitely doesn't you know why this is this very interesting I for examp I you I
follow a whole uh plan-based diet how long you been doing it for four years now four years yeah yeah now in Dubai I don't for the people uh what people now in Dubai I don't now I just Uh enjoying the meals that we get and we go out a lot so I just eat what we get right but normally yeah yeah so I'm really interesting in look I guess for for different people it's different right and I will say there's no one size all uh solution I just look at it and I think okay which
one is more of a true statement me personally where I'm from in the world where I'm geographically located this is the thing the you got all of these [ __ ] Blue-haired you get all these blue-haired ogres from you know uh that you know grew up in a ma in a major city and then went to University and they think they're [ __ ] smart and they've never seen the real [ __ ] word world and look I was only in my grandmother's house for four years just four years but that four years taught me
everything I need to know about how where food comes from from how we get food and I can tell you right now March 12th in Russia there Is no [ __ ] kale in sight there's no [ __ ] avocados there's no uh whatever you know all these vegan people put so I know for a fact biologically how would I have eaten vegetables in in March how would I have eaten vegetables in November you don't right so then what are your only options it's meat so humans are me and as I said this is a
generalization but the generalization to me just because uh you know there's exceptions doesn't mean That the statement for me in my opinion isn't true so as a whole humans are meant to eat nose to tail right the issue is we just eat the most tender parts nobody El even me I struggle with it dude I like a nice tender filet I like a shat Bon I like I like these Cuts right you know the fattier cuts you know some people love them but I would always take a fet over a ribeye right but I know
that a ribeye is far more healthy for me right because of all the fats so Humans really are meant to eat NOA tail and that's why you know it's funny when I see like liver King you know he's act to some people he looks so crazy but he's it's so true right first we're uh meant to eat meat raw I mean you know we're meant to eat um meat raw and second you know he's eating all these funny things you know the the testicles and this and that all this stuff especially liver back in the
day that used to be what you know back in the day That used to be what all the kings would eat right because they're the most um nutrient powerful parts of um you know an animal where it's stuff like you know the lean meat like filet stuff like that like those part that's what what the peasants would have be in right it's just I guess funny how things have changed so yeah you know um I just look back and I I always just think what what would have made most sense and to me I guess
when I think Carnivore diet and you know and I guess also just even in Russia seeing going into my grandma's back garden and I remember what it's like trying to eat an apple at the wrong you know two months too early or a month too early and it's like [ __ ] then your stomach is in bits you know I I I remember these things and I know that I vividly remember that there's roughly around 90 days of the year that I can eat fruits and the other 9 months a year I can't right and
You know the other 9 months of year there's no there's no vegetables either so I just I always just think back and I think naturally what would have made most sense for me you know 30,000 years ago cuz humans have not evolved since then whatsoever so yeah you know and that's kind of how I came to that conclusion so what I did was for three weeks I did uh beef salt water that was it nothing else cut out caffeine entirely cut out everything Just beef salt water and then from there I introduced eggs and then
you know I kept introducing things um found out what works what doesn't work like for example avocado I love avocado so I always do what if I'm doing carnivore because sometimes I'll do carnivore for like let's say two months and then I'll eat whatever the [ __ ] I want like I'm past up the this that I don't care right um so that's the thing you don't need to be unless you really have a serious Health thing you're working through I don't recommend that people do carnivore all year round right especially if you're younger I
think it's better to do when you really need to focus for me I do carnivore when I really need to focus when I really need to be in the Zone I I do carnivore uh and then you know if I'm in a period where you know I don't need to be as sharp then I don't do so I did that and then started reintroducing things back in found out what works what Doesn't work what causes me inflammation what doesn't caus me inflammation you know and even little things fine that was good uh and even little
things like uh you know people think it's normal to fart like most people don't clock don't have the mental Connection in their mind that hey if I farted that's that's my body telling me I don't like what you ate right I don't agree with what you ate or if I get bloated bloating isn't Czy bloating isn't it shouldn't be a thing every [ __ ] vegan I know is bloated out of their [ __ ] minds all the time no I uh I could out bread when I could have bread I don't have troubles no
more so I think gluten I maybe gluten but I didn't do my research on gluten so I cannot talk too much about those things but um yeah a bloating thing is really I don't like it but I get what you say about it yeah so you know things like bloating things like faring that's Not normal like that's not that's indication that's a sign that your body does not like what you're putting inside of so maybe people should listen so when I was doing that thing initially just to clear my skin and clear my health and
stuff like that it was initially as I said just to get through uh that phase but then from there I start to realize what works and what doesn't work and you know now it's nice I know you know I can eat my past and know okay this isn't a good idea but [ __ ] it I'm it as long as I go into with my eyes open but if I really want to be sharp I know that okay maybe eat this thing don't eat this thing I know what what you know makes me feel sluggish
and tire what doesn't what I prefer what I you know what vegetables I do agree with what vegetables I don't agree with stuff like that so uh yeah that's kind of how I came to that conclusion of of the Carnivore diet compared to vegan I looked at other things and and by the way look I'm sure there's arguments on both sides of spectrum just even little things like my dentist you know I I I like speaking to my D you know I remember I spoke to my dentist and I was like who has the worst
teeth and she goes unequivocally every single time vegans might be the carp thing as well right yeah yeah and plus all the sugar all the [ __ ] from all the foods and That's a preface I want to make especially with other vegan people right now there's also a very big difference between being vegan and eating the Mec plant every [ __ ] day because you're still eating trash this is the same conversation we have like eating grass-fed beef and eating very good beef is way better than eating all the [ __ ] meat that
you can get in most Western Country you see I will actually I will actually stop you there there's no Difference really and this is just a small little fact it's probably actually not very important um here's the thing what's happening is let's say for example you have avocado and you know it's [ __ ] or let's say you're having you know uh plants and you know one is natural and another one is just [ __ ] you know spray with tons of pesticide like you're directly interacting with that plant right whereas with if you're eating
a cow the beautiful thing is cows Have I think what is it six stomachs so you could feed a cow the worst [ __ ] [ __ ] on Earth or you could feed a a grass-fed no difference right and I even noce this myself and I'm not saying like uh cuz I believe as like my grandma's home is basically a farm right like I believe in um regenerative farming and I believe in grass-fed and I believe in uh sourcing meat to the best of your abilities look sometimes when you're a Restaurant you don't have
that luxury you know but to the best of your if you're personally buying meat sourcing it from the right places just because I like supporting farmers and especially now more than ever Farmers need to be supported um so that's from a ethical perspective but and you know even in London when I was in London I visited the farm that I all my food from like I physically saw the cows I saw how they were like it was it was crazy I I did Like a three-hour Journey um but in terms of actual inflammation and health
uh and this is just specifically with beef it actually makes no difference and even U Michaela Peterson Jordan Peterson's daughter she's had crippling crippling autoimmune conditions and and you know if she eats a cucumber she'll be like it'll it'll come back right where so you would think okay she could only eat the highest quality beef but she ate you know Grass-fed or um uh or cornfed or yeah cornfed soy fed one one of two but anyways uh she ate that and no difference to her actual and how is it with for example with chickens or
I don't like okay so when I'm doing carnivore I don't eat chicken you don't need any chicken because yeah I eat fish yeah but you see but I said that's I'm saying it's specifically just um a beef that that's the case uh when it comes to chickens I just don't eat them because They are they are just pumped with so much [ __ ] and uh yeah so with chick that's the main thing I noticed in the Netherlands everybody's always eating chicken to get [ __ ] big and yolk and and also I don't know
I I do think look you become what you eat and I just look I'd rather youat [ __ ] I'd rather youat [ __ ] beef than uh you know a little puny little chicken and stuff like that yeah interesting I have to say I'm the worst at like knowing my food and stuff I'm like the macros guy I just know what fats proteins and carbs and I know my weight goes down so well look everything's a sliding scale right and um what is your purpose for for for the food like you want to be
healthy do you eat for longevity to live longer is it for more productivity during the time I don't want to live longer I want to die at 72 72 or 75 yeah okay so I don't I I don't Want to live like super long anyways okay why because you don't want to take medicine or no so here look one of the best things in life um one of the best things in life is knowing the right time to leave the party that's one of the greatest skills you can have in life so you always want
to leave a party as it's still really good but you know in 20 minutes it's about to get really [ __ ] [ __ ] cuz once things get bad they get bad quick We all we've all been to that party and you know that like it is tough right cuz when you leave the part is still so good so you're you're constantly second guessing yourself but um so that's almost the way that I view life right uh so that's kind of why at 7275 I think that would be the perfect time I've always said
I wanted to be 100 but the reasoning behind it is because my granddad was 93 but he became 93 quite well you just live still live with my Grandma not in a retirement home or anything like that so if I look at that I'm like yeah if the quality of life is high but what you're saying is makes a lot of sense as well like leave the party a bit early before it turn and it gives a little bit pressure right cuz like if we have like at the same like I want to live until
100 like also because of the food and um I've read a book uh it's called the blue the blue zonas it's like places in The world where people are living longer on average than other regions um that's also why the whole veganism thing right but um one thing was like those people were like 90 95 how did they die not because they had cancer not because they had like um heart attacks not of those things and I was thinking like okay they don't need to go to a hospital and live their last two months over
there they just live and then they get too old and then they die right of a natural cause And that's well that's like a thing that I have myself like I want to die that way I don't want to die in a hospital with five operations and that kind of stuff yeah when it's your time to I don't know I just think when it's your time to go it's your time to go Iman I wanted to ask you one thing also about one of your videos that you posted I think a few weeks back about
you trying to buy the nft of Logan Paul firstly I would have expected that video To blow up way more than it did yeah was it one of those videos that you expected to do better think it was going to do well no even just small things like the video was I believe the video was 9 minutes I've noticed a big difference the video has to be even it's just 10 minutes and 1 seconds it has to be 10 minutes I've just I've noticed that so I knew even just from the fact that it was
9 minutes um but yeah there unfortunate video actually to upload because it's Uh [ __ ] man I lost so much respect for that guy yeah for Logan Paul like I I absolutely because I I didn't watch him back in the day when you know he had his whole cancellation thing happen and stuff like that I only started watching it maybe in I saw I started seeing some of the stuff when uh maybe like lockdown of 2020 uh his impulsive episodes and I thought it was hilarious and I and especially his Vlogs back then I
remember he doing like five minute Vlogs And they were like super well done and I just thought it's so cool this person you know uh has this massive massive um this person has this massive come up and then they basically get cancelled and everything goes away and everything dwindles um and you know everyone hates him and he just has this Redemption Arc and I just thought it was like the coolest thing ever and I had so much respect for him for you know really turning things around and really Um yeah just surviving a mass cancellation
so that was also one of the reasons that I bought the nft it's just like genuinely like of course $300,000 is a lot of money um but I just thought you know and I the thing was you got to go and impulsive I was like you know what whatever I at the time cuz I I bit on it in the summer I was like I need an excuse to go out to America anyway so this is a good excuse and yeah and then I saw what he did with Tate and his Comments on Tate when
he was like oh this person you know Tate he should she he shouldn't have a platform and all this stuff and I was just like you are such a little [ __ ] [ __ ] and I know I know this me saying this right here means that I never get to go on impulsive I never get to go on any of those [ __ ] podcasts I don't give a [ __ ] I cannot respect a man who try who who wants someone else deplatformed or Canceled when they were canceled themselves for something that
was Far [ __ ] worse like and but that's the thing I I still believe he deserves a second chance cuz I don't know like I believe everyone deserves a second chance I believe people can genuinely make mistakes right he was young he had so much pressure all this stuff I think when it happened he was my age right I think look even if I I mean I never would because I'm you Know I I I grew up you know I grew up and I feel as I have a good head on my shoulders and
you know I feel like I wouldn't do anything stupid but even if I do at the end day I'm 22 right so especially considering his age and stuff like that I just think people deserve Second Chances and then you know for him to then flipflop flipflop be a little [ __ ] [ __ ] and as I said I understand me saying this means that I don't get to hang out with Any of the LA crew now I don't give a [ __ ] like I do I can never ever respect a man I can
never respect people who are just and and look here the thing if I met him in person if I met him in person 100% I could still get along with him but I can never truly respect him and I could and I'd say to his face look I I just don't I don't think you're a man of Honor I think you put money and you put you know being a good boy on YouTube and I understand that's someone's career right but at the end of the day let's say you know let's let's take Neel for
an example right look I'm sure Neel could have made a lot more money if they were good boys but then day at a certain point how much [ __ ] money do you need right at a at a certain point it's like what's more important to you your your honor or money you know and for me I've made as you guys know I've made many many many Sacrifices where I make substantially less money but at least I get to look at myself in the mirror and be like oh okay I'm I'm a real man of
Honor so yeah I bid on his nft and then he did that and the funny thing is I released the video um you know tell telling the story about it and then a few days later um you know he basically came out was like oh you know Tate deserves to stay cancelled and all this stuff and I was just like You're would you like to have a discussion with him with who with Logan on just the podcast or talk to him about these kind of subjects yeah for sure I mean because I think that's very
[ __ ] interesting cuz you say canceled with LA boys but for me I would say [ __ ] invite the guy and have someone whose is not the same no no I think you should talk to Tate personally exactly look I'm just a guy with an opinion right I'm not involved in the situation I'm just Saying I can't uh fully ever respect a person I said I look I could be friendly I could hang out with him right all this stuff but it's I would never tell him my secrets I would never trust him
I would never let him in my corner cuz for me the only people in my corner can only be Men of Honor so yeah you know um yeah I don't know it was it was it was unfortunate to see but I think you know him and Tate should definitely have a conversation or that Would be interesting yeah I think that I think that would be uh you know much better what would be the the the podcast or conversation of of the year that you would want to see so what are two people that you're like
they should have a discussion on camera MH cuz you seem like a person that thinks about those types of stuff like uh I don't know I think who would be some interesting character uh I don't know some people Donald Trump I'd say Donald Trump Donald Trump and Kanye West i' say I'd say probably that would be if that was recorded on podcast as well yeah and then maybe Kanye West Donald Trump and then nek boys right because here the thing nek boys are probably and I by the way I say this like I adore nek
boys I love their podcast like I I'm you know I love what they do but they're probably some of the worst podcasts on Earth but that that's what makes them so good right it's Because they genuinely ask they sometimes they can ask some really stupid questions but it it makes it so entertaining right and it's like you like the fact that they don't rehearse and they don't you know they just go into and they just flow um so I'm just imagining a podcast with Kanye West with Donald Trump and nek boys I just think that
would be legendary break the end but it can never go anywhere it just get taken down in less than a Day I would be very interested in a t Jordan Peterson conversation just he saw the picture for the CU it's a bit of the same but in a very different way if you know what I mean you try to empower men but in a very different way and they both got canceled for it in some way or another and I think it's very interesting because it could also bring like two groups that actually think quite
the same but don't really see ey ey because I think the Jordan Peterson Crowd is quite different than the take rout yeah they're a little bit more articulate exactly they're a little bit more academic a little bit more more Artic yeah they bit older most people are from the University do you watch a lot of Jordan Peterson to see someone who in the past in the past I did uh smaller yeah in the past I did currently at the moment no it's very like anything that he says you need to rewatch like five times yeah
man it's confusing you Know it's very it's so vast it's not easily digestible content right so let's say for example I'm on holiday I'm at the beach I want to smoke a cigar and I want to listen to something and you know uh potentially hear A New Perspective but then maybe also be entertained Jordan Pearson is not one of those people that you know I'm going to put on like Jordan Pon really is it's like it's like homework you know it's great it's great It's so um vast it's so it's there there's so much Nuance
there's so much detail but it's um yeah it'll definitely make your head digest I've had that with I've read the book like the 12 rules for men cuz he was really into Jordan Peterson and I wasn't didn't really know him I started reading the book and after I think half of the book I was say like man this it just goes over my head like every sentence and I think now that I'm a bit Older I start to really like get and understand what the points he makes and stuff so it's very interesting I have
one last question Iman for you and that's um if you could speak to someone Dead or Alive who would you want to speak to and why h there's so many different ways I could go with it because there's so many different okay look so for me personally Idol John F Kennedy right so that's 100% someone I want to speak to that that's Someone i' want to speak to on many many fronts that's someone I'd want to speak to on many fronts for many different reasons whether that be personal whether that be uh you know uh
his relationship with his wife or you know his uh indiscretions uh whether that be you know how he dealt with the pressure um you know whether because to me he was like the last good president but then I think about it I'm like um because obviously he you know I personally don't Believe he was you know I believe he was killed it's my personal opinion and belief that he was killed by his own government um so I don't know maybe him or maybe I might go for someone like genas Khan you know cuz just just
like listening to the or you know getting an into a man like that you know just get it I'd say probably maybe just some really extreme Minds you know someone like gask Khan yeah someone like that you know because Gask Khan and Hitler are really almost localized right they did in the past yeah you can see some similarities but um that or or if I wanted to have a very um probably if I wanted to have the best most intellectual conversation in my life then Marcus a really is yeah yeah if read meditations then how
many times 50 times that's crazy okay yeah yeah I love the book also I also maybe want to talk to like one of the first family members I have so I don't know Like Generations back just talk to the first meal or something or the man who made you lost yeah yeah but what if yeah but imagine you have this great idea in your mind and you meet him he's just a peasant yeah yeah not in a bad way but just like you're like oh this is my genetics yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's true
as well have you have you uh met Ryan holiday because he's like a great writer lot knows a lot about Marx radius about Stoicism do you want to meet him it's like someone that you say okay that's very interesting you know as I guess I said now it's starting to get to a level where there's so many people reaching out to me and there so many people who are wanting to connect because I said there's there's people with a lot more followers but I think there's definitely something about my and uh my lifestyle you know
everything that people want a part of and I'm saying Very successful people as well and there's a lot of people that I'm now connecting with that I in the past would have been a dream but I just don't care anymore you know what I mean and I think a big part of it is as time has gone on I've realized that like a lot of the people who I realize that a lot of the people who are super successful and are put up as like these you know figures of success there're just all [ __
] little [ __ ] right they're just all they're weak spineless nothing to them right so like at the end of day take someone like you know I don't want to say Ryan holiday specifically but like take someone in that world right at the end of the day they still have a [ __ ] boss and that boss is their publisher right so I know whatever they're saying is I can never fully trust what they say take someone for example like Jordan Peterson he had an issue with patreon so He shut down like he uh
I forget specifically what it was but he had an issue with uh I think they were censoring what you could say or something like that so he had an issue with patreon he was making I I for I forget what the number was 50,000 month 100,000 month something like that from his patreon he went and live deleted his patreon account and I was like that is a [ __ ] man of Honor that is a man that I trust what he says he [ __ ] means And to me that means you know the further
and further I get along in life the more the more weight that carries with me so you know guys like and by the way nothing against Ryan holiday specifically I don't know the guy I'm just saying a lot of that world I can never fully trust cuz I'm like you you know you have a boss and then you still have someone who tells you what to do right or there's still someone there's still you know you still Have to kiss the ring there's a a ring that you have to kiss right whereas I like people
where they can really just do whatever the [ __ ] they want right Jord P Andrew Tate Joe Rogan yeah and then I mean heavy lser Crown man because that's very hard to do for a lot of people I think yeah look they try to get all them you know they try to get all them and they'll try to get you for you know they'll just start making [ __ ] up about all these people you know they'll Start making [ __ ] up about oh if they want to they'll decide that you're a peda
file right and they'll find one specific photo someplace and by the way obviously these are very famous people so they have photos you know them interacting with uh you know fans children and and they'll spin the [ __ ] craziest [ __ ] they'll do the craziest [ __ ] things right and yeah and eventually they'll they'll try to find a way to come for you you Know they they might even ruin your career in that 30 years oh it wasn't true after all but you've been red exactly yeah at that look they tried to
do with Tony Robbins they didn't really they because he came out basically saying the you know the cough was a whole [ __ ] scam he came out and said look here's the statistics all this stuff and after that he had all these allegations of sexual assault after after after year Decades Of clean record no woman ever coming out no one saying anything ever working with Nelson Mandela all look after after all after all of that after all of those decades he comes out and says yeah no like he you know he was very I
remember I first saw February of 2021 I remember I was in Cape Town and he basically came out and said look look here's the statistics here's blah blah all the stuff we're not there's no reason to lock us in our houses this is this is Not about your SA safety anymore and lo and behold 2 months later you know sexual assault allegations all this stuff women coming out all this [ __ ] [ __ ] and uh you know he lost his publishing deal for his book and all this stuff and um yeah you see
once again that's another man I really respect you know hundreds of millions big audience but he'll still if he believes in something and look once again all these people I don't know the Ins and outs maybe you know maybe they're still puppets I don't know but I just look at the actions that I can see and um when I have that in mind there's not too many people left you know so that's the scary thing so that's the really scary thing is as you start to think about all this stuff you're like [ __ ]
who's actually left that I would and it look all these people that I mentioned even [ __ ] Lan Paul I could go out I could hang out With him I could go on a trip with him and we'd still have a lot of fun but at the end day I can never fully trust him right in the same way you so yeah with that being you know with all that it's when you think about it you're like who can I actually who will be in my corner you know who could I actually make someone
really be a part of my team and you know when uh you know all said and done there's not many people left in the World I have one last question that is when um you you have said that when you want to grow your business to the next level most of the time you have to change something on yourself right to grow there and what is now on this moment something that you want to change need to change on yourself to go to the next level with your business so I'd say the big thing that
right now at the moment is my big issue at the moment is Actually communication and response time right like I've got people who I've got people in opportunities that I don't respond to for 10 days because I'm just that's not a good thing that I'm good at I'm a person that WhatsApp or whatever or whatever platforms whatever email whatever it is it's stresses me out right so I just avoid it so usually my strategy is I just don't really look at whatsapp for 2 3 days and I'll just sit down try to get it two
hours done and I Just don't respond again right and the thing is I've got super highle people who are trying to connect with me and stuff like that you know and in just random things like even you know I was coming back from uh Dubai I was coming back from sorry London to Dubai and you know uh whatever I came uh I was at the um uh checkin and whatever without going into specifics you know very you know someone whose family is from here um you know and actually I ended up meeting the Family they
were all first class check-in and stuff like that so you know he introduced me to his family and um you know a lot of people try to use the family thing and I've had that many times oh my family is this and this and this so I'm very you know I can sus it out very easily um I said without going into specifics this person's family is very very very powerful in this part of the world and they're massive massive fans And you know even someone like that that's just person that comes to mind you
know this person messed me five days ago oh would you like to come where without getting to specifics one of his properties very very nice property uh and hang out you know and do some activities and I haven't gone back to that person and at the end day that's going to really [ __ ] me in the future right because at the end of day you how are you going to build a connection and Relationship with someone when they take five days to respond you know that's something I personally really need to get better at
I think it's because I was so used to when I first started the first 3 four years avoid your phone at all costs you know like avoid your phone or avoid responding to people like you know just do what you need to do you know for me to get where I wanted to get to in 2018 2019 2016 2020 was just about me obviously my team you know having Great employees having great team stuff like that but really was about me doing the Deep work doing the deep focus work now I don't there's nothing really
to do you know that sounds terrible but like I've hired people that are better than me at every single position so now it's really just about making some Right Moves and not being an idiot and taking 5 days to respond to someone who's super powerful someone that if they wanted tomorrow They could get me deporter and Blacklist from U you know obviously not that they will you know but it's you know I'm getting into a level where I'm I'm really connecting with very very powerful people very famous people very all this stuff um and that's
something that's you know is definitely going to hold me back so that's something that I think about actually I'm like [ __ ] I need to work on that this is in 2018 where I just should have avoid my phone At all costs it's like the opposite right now man yeah that's what I'm saying it's it's it's totally different you know the things you need to do at the beginning is not what you need to and this is why you know I've even had people tell me like oh why do you still recommend an online
service based business or an agency when you you know your main focus and the thing that's really driving your net worth at the moment is your uh software company and I'm like because like you do different things at different stages you know my morning routine right now is obviously not at all you know if I if I had this morning routine in 16 or 2017 we would not be sat here today you would have no [ __ ] clue who I am right so you know what you do at one stage is very different to
what you have to do at a different stage in life so you know I guess I'm I even have to uh you know remind myself sometimes I think that's Uh very important and good for people to hear as well there's different skills at different levels and focus on your own level as well do not go and listen to podcasts and videos of people that only explain things about selling a business if you're just getting started don't think it's very useful yet yes Iman thank you so much for your time for your knowledge and for showing
up um I think that's it man how we going to say it last yeah what we're going to Do yeah we always close it off with like a tagline we have but it's it's in Dutch so we'll just do it D thank you thanks for watching don't forget to subscribe andios [Music]