NICK JONAS Reveals the TRAUMATIC Birth of his Daughter

Nick, I I feel like I've been watching your interviews with the brothers. I've seen so much of what you've done, but this is like the first time you've sat down separate of the brothers since you guys got back together and the band got back together. Who's who's Nick Jonas today separate of the Jonas Brothers? >> It's a great question. Uh changes uh every day, I feel like. You know, I for those that don't know um that are Watching or listening to this, you know, in the last couple years, um my life's changed quite a bit.

my my wife and I, you know, my wife Priyanka, we have a beautiful uh daughter named Multi Marie Choper Jonas. Parenthood has has really changed my life in in so many ways, but also my perspective and the way I view myself and um you know, as it relates to my work as well. Obviously, there's a huge influence um there as well. And and so I think I had a better sense of who I Was prior to that and then everything shifted um once she arrived. What's great is that I have this this wonderful outlet in

my songwriting and my, you know, music career where I can speak about some of the these things that are happening in my life. And luckily, you know, our audience both with the brothers and solo have really grown with us and they're they're kind of going through some of the same life experiences. So, it really is like Speaking to peers and people that that can understand kind of the language, right? And and understand just what you're going through. So, I I felt, you know, some freedom to to express myself even more in my work these days.

Uh, which I think is reflected in in my my latest album, which uh I know we we sent over before for you to listen to a track or two just to get some context. But, you know, I I'm really looking forward to to people hearing um this work and And kind of listening to these lyrics and and getting a window into my life. >> Yeah, I'm excited to dive into Sunday Best. I pooked out some of my favorite lyrics from some of the songs. So, we we'll get to that. But I wanted to ask you

like go back a little bit. What you're saying is almost like you started performing at an age when kids don't even know who they are. >> Yeah. >> And your life was so public. What was That like now looking back? Like what was that experience like? >> Yeah. I started performing when I was professionally when I was eight. I was doing Broadway shows as a kid. You know, our our parents very musical people. her dad was a a minister in New Jersey at the time and we were, you know, close enough to New York City

where this dream of mine to go and perform at the Broadway stage was actually somewhat of a a possibility. Uh, and I I happened to Be in a hair salon with my mom uh when I was like six or seven years old just singing as I always did, you know, some show tune. And the woman next to her leaned over and said, "Hey, my my son is actually on Broadway right now in Lay Miz. Your son could do it. You should go see this manager." So, a couple weeks later, they drove me and the brothers

to go see this manager named Shirley Grant. She was this lovely older woman with all these photos of of kid actors on her Wall um that she had made famous. And um she was kind of a staple in New Jersey for for kids that wanted to be in the business. And I went in and I I auditioned for her, sang, you know, all the songs I knew, which was mostly just pop music. And and then she uh she said, "Well, there's there's some signs here that that we could have, you know, a path ahead of

us. Uh but you need to go learn show tunes." So, I spent 6 months devastated that it didn't just happen. Uh you know, my very short-sighted 7-year-old mind thinking my career was over. And uh I, you know, started learning show tunes with my dad and um came back and auditioned for her again. And she started sending me on auditions and eventually I was on the Broadway stage and and I've really not looked back since. um went from doing that for three or four years to recording music and then you know just the stars kind of

aligning and obviously me and the Brothers had a you know a song that we wrote we were kids um that someone heard that label and wanted to sign all three of us and it just kind of went from there >> growing up on Disney in front of millions like how did that shape your sense of self now when you reflect back on it >> being you know the first family of the church right my dad was a pastor we were expected to behave a certain way Expected to be sat in the front pew of the

church every Sunday morning uh with our tie and you know our our suit on and there was a lot of eyeballs on us um which I think was actually great training ground for what we would then experience on Disney so many years later. We didn't expect that to happen. We we were initially signed to a label that didn't really know what to do with us. Um, and we got dropped after our first album came out and we were, you Know, hundreds of thousands of dollars in in debt, credit card debt, money that we did not

have cuz there's there's no uh money in in ministry really. We had to sort of figure something out. And thankfully, we got a call from Hollywood Records, which is, you know, under the Disney umbrella, and they said, "We know what to do with with the guys." And and couple weeks later, they had us on the Disney Channel, and things just started going. But the real head scratcher was, Okay, what does it look like when it goes from just a couple hundred people in a church with all their eyeballs on you to millions upon millions of

people? Um, where, you know, you're expected to sort of behave a certain way. Uh, I think our parents did a great job. Uh, we all turned out somewhat okay, I think. But you, you know, you see the stories. We've all seen the stories of of people that have really struggled coming out of that um or while they're In it. And um I think it's a credit to their their parenting. >> Yeah, I've met your parents. They're wonderful people. Yeah. Yeah. They're great energy and you can see where you three get it from. But yeah, it's

it's even that early failure. I mean, to be failing at that age, to be dropped from a record label, tons of debt. Like when I hear that, I go, >> okay, when you look at it from today's perspective, you're like, oh yeah, of Course they they made it anyway. It didn't matter. But it's like at that time I can imagine that being really heavy on your family on was it quick enough a pivot where Hollywood Records came or was it >> did you have to sit in that pain for a little bit? >> You know

there was a a couple things happening in our life at that time that made you know the career aspect aspect of it almost feel uh less of a burden Than some of the personal things that were going on. You know our dad was at that church for 10 years. It was a real um you know safety net for us and and a place where we we felt a part of a community and some of the the families that were there prior to our arrival um did not like my dad and and u made it their

mission to get him pushed out of the church. So >> effectively, you know, he he lost his job while also funding this this ban, This dream of ours. Um, we had to move out of our home because we were living in the the church parsonage which is owned by the church. And so we we moved into a basically a a little house in a place called Little Falls, New Jersey. The owners of the home were kind enough to let us rent it from them for for basically nothing while we were in this transitional period. And

around the same time, while we're on tour doing uh a school tour, basically we would show up At 8 a.m., load in our own gear, and play a 30-minute uh assembly basically. And then there was an anti-drug school uh anti-drug message at the end of it that our our uncle Josh, who was our tour manager, would give. You know, around this time, I'm I'm starting to lose weight. I'm, you know, thirsty all the time. I'm using the bathroom all the time. And um kind of just thought it was a growth spurt or or that I

was just, you know, going through puberty. Um Obviously, it wasn't that. Uh it was a diabetes diagnosis. So it all kind of collided at the same time and you know looked up and and life just looked very different. And so it it took a lot of faith and uh even questioning faith at that time going from the safety net of the church to all of a sudden being sort of betrayed by them and having to redefine relationship with God while going through some of your toughest moments. It's weird weird time, but we We we came

out of it okay. Um and that phone call from from Disney kind of changed our our life. >> Yeah. I mean, it's interesting that you put it into perspective that like losing a record deal compared to your dad losing his job, you know, the faith challenges that's happening, you going through diabetes. It's like it's interesting when you look at your life like that and everything's put into perspective. I just had a friend who's An author. >> She just had a book come out and she was talking to me about how before the book came out,

all she was thinking about was book sales and data and if she'd get on the New York Times and all this kind of stuff that you think about. Yeah. And then she had a family go through a health scare and her partner went through a health scare and it was really serious and she was just saying that she was in one sense grateful that that Happened before because it just completely made her zoom out and the perspective completely changed and she wasn't worried about all those things that we would naturally be worried about. What did

you do as a family and what did you do individually at that time to kind of keep that faith as you said like what were those challenging questions you were asking? What were the things coming at you that you were then able to find your center of grounding? What what helped you do that at that time? >> Writing music. Um, our parents got us a a V drum kit, which is an electronic drum kit. Um, where you could hook up your iPod and play along to the track. So, it was kind of the way that

I learned how to play drums. And in that basement that that drum set was kept in, we also had a, you know, a little guitar rig and a keyboard. And you know, I was I was growing up going through life Stuff, right? First love, first date, all these kind of things that are really good found or are a very good foundation to to write music. You know, we had we had a good sense of what we wanted the next record to sound like. >> We didn't know if we'd be able to make one because things

were not going so well, but we just kept writing. We went down there every day and and tried to write the best song we could. And we came out with a demo from that chapter Of our our sort of toughest window as a family nine to 10 months. Um, came with a demo CD with with 11 songs that would then become the self-titled album that we released that that connected and and went on to sell, you know, millions of of units and really redefined our our career and our life. Uh but it was born out

of this incredible struggle that we were going through and and um kind of desperation almost uh which I don't think is a great uh way to to to write From great place to write from but sometimes it it is the fire you need to to sort of get over that hurdle and when I listen back to those songs now I I still really resonate with uh some of the messages in there and and even you know the age appropriate writing. I think >> our dad was really great at encouraging us to >> to listen to

the the greats, you know, the Eagles, the Beatles, Beeges, uh Stevie Wonder, but also to to like what we liked. And at that time, you know, 2004, 2005, the sort of emo pop punk scene was was massive. and we really responded to I think some of the angst in the music because we were teens who were going through this stuff and uh also navigating dating and and all those other things. And so we started kind of infusing that into our sound and it it really became uh a crucial part of the the early records for

us. And obviously As as we've evolved so has the sound but um I think back on on those times uh even amidst the struggle with a lot of uh you know appreciation. >> Yeah. just it always I I love learning that because it just constantly points to how when you're going through tough times, creating and building and doing something and taking action is >> always half the solution >> in terms of like getting momentum moving forward. Trying to >> create, build, grow, do something just allows humans to break through these really difficult times that go

on in life. Looking back, was there a challenge growing up as a Jonas brother and not just as Nick? >> Finding your own identity amidst uh a group is always tough. That's that's not unique to us. That's any siblings, right? go through something uh like that where where they've got to find their own identity and and even you know their Their place in the family for each of us being sort of labeled a thing cuz it's the easiest way for people to sort of digest a new band is to say he's the this one he's

the this one and it got tiring you know because I'm I'm sort of inherently like a a pretty reserved person. Um, I think the people that know me best would say that I'm actually quite outgoing once you get to know me. But, but I think that I sort of created a a a label for myself because I was Being told that I was the shy one or >> interesting >> um, you know, whatever it was at that time or the sort of creative moody one. and these these labels like they do stick with you as

as you get older and and so I think when I got into my sort of late teens and early 20s especially as I started to explore sort of my identity as a solo artist uh and as as an an adult um I tried to shed that and when I look back on it now uh as a as a Person in my 30s I can kind of like laugh at the stages of of life and how those early labels and trying to find my identity amidst this group um you know really shaped who I became. >>

Yeah. Yeah. And you see that across like musicians, actors, athletes as well where like they get a label and now you're almost playing the caricature of that label. >> Yeah. >> And and having to because a there's some success attached to it, but like you said, you're just a young person still figuring out who you are. It's easy to be the thing that everyone thinks you are. How how do you think that that was limiting and in what ways was it actually helpful? the ways in which it was limiting were that um you start to

sort of subscribe to it as well. uh and then it becomes a part of your your selft talk you know I I was not Regularly in therapy um in my teens I think because our dad was from you know a ministry background there was sort of a taboo around it we would we would often uh you know refer to sort of therapy as as more like a counseling session with a person in the church throughout those years following our exit from the church uh I really questioned faith and and what relationship I would have to

sort of organized religion at all, which is Something that I can I can say now knowing that my relationship with my God is totally intact and that my belief is totally intact. Um, and I think it's important for everyone to go on sort of that journey of of self-discovery. But during that time, I think we could have all benefited from sort of a more uh traditional um mental health uh sort of approach. So that's that's how it's limiting um to answer that question and then how it helped >> uh it made me really tough. >>

I have nothing to complain about in my life because >> I am eternally grateful >> uh for every thing that has been um given to me, every experience I've been afforded and I understand that I I walk in uh in privilege and um so I'm I'm grateful for that. That being said, life does still throw you curveballs and there are things that are challenging. I'm grateful for the grit that I had to Take on because living a public life comes with these things. Comes with the very good, the things that we all think are are

glamorous and and amazing and also with some that you got to navigate. And um whether it's family or friends or just sheer determination and grit, that's I think the positive I I pulled from it. >> Yeah. Thank thanks for saying that because I think what I'm encouraging all our listeners to do as well is think About how all life experiences are both limiting and helpful. And I think as humans we have this ability to paint and experience all bad or all good. >> Yeah. >> And and the reality is no, there's nuance there and there's

gray and there's it's good to be able to reflect on something that was tough and go actually I've got a lot of great stuff from that too. Yeah. Like in so many ways that's what's made me strong and Resilient and ready for the future. At the same time, I'm aware that hey, it would have been great to have some traditional therapy or, you know, some things at that time. And I think having that approach is so helpful. What was romanticized about the Disney era that now you look back on and go that was probably not

that healthy? >> Well, I mean, it's it's global exposure. And when they turn, I call it the faucet. When Disney turns the faucet on, >> it just goes, right? and and when they know they have something that has potential to be successful, they are the best team and company to market that to the audience that they've spoken to with such excellence for as long as they have >> at that time. Um, you had a pretty uh incredible graduating class. I mean, if you look at the success that everyone from that kind of era has had

post Disney, >> I think it says more about their ability To find talent that has legs that that has the potential for for real adult success in addition to the success on the channel. What I romanticize about it and what I think back on is those elements. the the idea that there's this big company that can just make things happen and it's exciting when it does, but also now, you know, being a part of a thing like a Camp Rock, for instance, is, you know, really incredible. Um, I think for a while as I Was

trying to solidify myself as an adult performer and creative person, some of those things from our our Disney past were like embarrassing, like uh like looking back at a yearbook would be for somebody. Um, now I'm just so proud to have been a part of something that had the global reach that that that had or or other projects we did with them. And it isn't until you're, you know, you're grown and and you've sort of you're on the other side of that that You can see that perspective. And yeah, I just I look at it

and go, "Wow, those kids were fearless." >> All of us, and really had had no formal training or I mean, it shows in some cases. Um, >> but it's the best training ground there is. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. If someone said today, Nick, you're you're shy, you're moody, you're the creative one, what would you how would you react to that? >> I would say uh you're right uh to some degree, but I don't know, you sit and break bread with me or have a drink, you'll see pretty quickly that uh I like to have a

laugh. I you know I I am thoughtful >> in the way that I respond to questions and the things that come out of my mouth I know bear consequences or bear fruit, right? There's there's good uh to be had. There's also times that you say a thing you didn't mean to say or you make A joke that doesn't quite land right and you know you you fall flat on your face and we've all had those moments. >> Um two things can be true. I can be the person I was as a as a team where

I was given that label, but I can also evolve and become this other sort of more dynamic person that I I strive to be. >> Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad you said that. And I I feel like when we were at dinner, you were always the one sparking off really thoughtful conversations and Like, you know, getting us all kind of like discussing something interesting. And I'm like, and and hearing you say that, I mean, I think about my experience in a much more smaller way than you. But I've always felt that like because of what I

do for work and because of my who I am online, which is who I am. It's just a part of me. I often feel everyone's like, "Oh, well, Jay takes life really seriously and he can't joke around." And I'm like, my Friends who know me the best know that all I want to do is banter and like rip into someone because that's who I am behind the scenes. And that's who I truly am. And obviously that isn't >> it's not that it's misaligned with my work. It's just we're all these 360° people, but because we

watch everyone for 30 seconds on a TikTok or a real, you kind of become this very simplified version of yourself. >> Yeah, it's so true. And there are times Now I feel like I I watch back certain interviews that I've done in the past and I try not to be ultra critical of myself. I am. We all are, I feel like. But I I sort of have this yearbook that lives out in the world, you know, I can't kind of control um that that's just part of the thing. But I I often will watch back

interviews and go, hm, I can see where I was like projecting what I wanted people to think of me um or, you know, I'm withholding a Hot take or an opinion that I think might get me in trouble. I've been fortunate enough to have not misstepped in my life to uh in a way that would limit my ability to continue to do what I'm doing. We are all capable of making mistakes. Um and I feel like, you know, having having the world get to sort of see into my my life has been both uh wonderful

and and also really frightening at times. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I try to live honestly And just, you know, lay it out for people now because I think it's it's just way easier to connect. And so, to your point about the dinner conversations, I love the freedom of having great in-depth intense conversations with friends and having a laugh as well. I'm getting more and more comfortable kind of fully being myself uh for the world to see as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. I like the way you put it though. It's like the world has access To

your yearbook. >> Yeah. >> And and that's a that's a really interesting way to think about it. Based on what you just said, actually, I wanted to pull out a lyric here that I heard from Yeah. So, you you were just saying there that often when you look back at your interviews, you can look back and we can be critical and negative. And you write in your new single, Gut Punch. I'm going to read Your lyrics back to you if that's okay. Sure. >> Uh you said, "Hit me like a gut punch. I hurt my

own feelings. How did I get so good at being mean to myself? I should turn the heat down. Tell myself to chill out. Damn, I really hate the way I talk to myself. Now, what would it be like if I just tried to be nice to the person that I'm seeing in the mirror? If you find that inner child, haven't seen him for a while, let him know he's doing Fine. And I feel like like when I hear that, I'm like, "Yeah, I can I can relate to it." You've got a lot more material to

kind of be critical of yourself for that's visible to other people as well. When did you first become aware of the inner critic that was so strong? Like when did you start to recognize, wait a minute, I can be quite hard on myself? >> I think after I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, um a major shift happened in My life. Uh where I I never believed that I did anything to get diabetes. For those that don't know, type one is an autoimmune disease. It's not the same as type two, which can be caused from

a number of things, but poor eating habits, lack of exercise would be sort of the main cause of type two. Whereas type one, your body just decides it's going to stop making insulin naturally. And so then your glucose levels are it's not possible for Them to be in range, which has a number of major side effects. And and I think the biggest misconception which I I've tried to be a part of, you know, educating people on cuz I know it's really just an education issue and and not there's no bias per se. Um just people

don't know that it can be deadly if it's not treated. So when I reflected, you know, this is when I first started doing therapy in my early 20s, uh on kind of the way in which I Handled living with this disease. um I became very critical of how serious I was taking it >> um or even the opposite end of that spectrum which is am I taking it too seriously. You know, at that time there was there's a lot of uh a lot of noise made about it because I was sort of the only public

person talking about type one in this way as an advocate and I became really discouraged by some of the feedback. This was the first time I recall feeling, and I'm going to use a big word here, and I don't mean for it to sound uh so intense, but feeling betrayed by people um in the sense that I wanted to just be a normal kid like everybody else and not be dealing with this thing. I wasn't trying to make a meal out of it. I'm just sharing my truth about this. And it was made to feel

like, oh, he's making too big a deal >> and it's not that serious. And so I I Became very critical of like everything I was doing in that sense, whether I was doing enough to manage it or not enough. And and then later on, you know, in in my life, I I was met with a situation where I really kind of fell flat on my face. Uh not literally, but that that would have been better actually than what happened. But I had a TV performance where this guitar solo moment that I was supposed to play

as a feature on a Kelsey Ballerini track just Didn't didn't happen. Like I I went blank. uh I I hit a bad note and then I couldn't kind recover and I I built up this this skyscraper of you know this this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity and it was it was unimaginable how how important that was to me for that skyscraper to stay standing and and and not have any cracks in it or anything. and and um I I had to sort of relearn Who I was if you took

this thing away. Uh it'd be like taking my singing voice away. I who am I? What do I do? And it it was just a a really tough season in my life. And everything I did after that, I was just incredibly critical of myself. And then I started to do that thing where you you make the joke before others can. Um you sort of you think it's already in the room before you arrive. So, you have to and no one was thinking about it. And that's been true A number of times in my life where

I feel like something's happened that didn't go the way I wanted it to and that everyone's talking about it. And so, there's that wrestle of like, am I am I just a narcissist thinking that this is as important to everybody else? Maybe. Yeah. And then it's it's just a cyclical thing. >> And so, the gut punch lyrics were really important to me because it's the first time I' I've been able to say This thing that I've felt for a long time. Um, and it wasn't until we got to the bridge where I I I wrote

that line. My co-writers in the song are amazing and really allowed for me to be this honest. I felt kind of similar the way I do with you, which is that I can I can speak more freely. Um, because you've created the environment for me to do that feels welcoming and and warm to that. And they did the same thing. and and I just started talking about, you Know, I said my I think my hair stopped growing. Is that even a thing? I haven't lost any of it, but something ain't the same. Maybe it's a

metaphor is even that deep. I think my hair stopped growing or or is it me? And it was sort of like a a poem that I had wrote in the mirror that morning and it was funny at first. It made me chuckle and then I realized when it got to the or is it me part like oh that's what it's about. like I I actually was surprised that I was I was Willing to be that uh honest. Um a thing maybe I didn't want to say out loud. Anyway, got to the bridge and that that

lyric is my favorite on the album which is about the inner child because I feel like as I mentioned before that kid was fearless and he was just doing it. Um and I I'd love to spend some time with him again because I I admire his his grit, his uh fearlessness. I feel like I've I've reverted to like factory settings Or something and and maybe I need to I don't know. But he's he's cool. >> Push it, bend it, flex it. Introducing the latest rule bending innovation from Brooks Running. The new Glycerin Flex. Feel the

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for the Fact that you're judging yourself for having shame and guilt. And and it feels like a very everything you just said feels like a very real emotion that each and every one of us can resonate with, right? I'm sure everyone who's listening right now >> can go, "Yeah, I've had moments like that when >> I didn't feel like I did the right thing and then all of a sudden everyone had a viewpoint on it." And whether you have The world watch watching you or you have your 10 friends or 20 friends in school watching

you, proportionately it feels the same. >> Yeah. >> Uh you know, and it it can be so challenging. And >> when you when you're saying that out loud to me, I'm like, what would you say to that younger self now if you could spend some time with him? And what would you not say to that younger self if you Could spend some time with him? >> Yeah, I would. I would. >> Well, just just to circle back to one thing you said, please. Yeah. Yeah. This music and these stories and they're all human experiences. It

has nothing to do with it being specific to my life other than it's, you know, my wife and daughter that I'm talking about or or other situations. But I really wanted to to make something that everyone could relate to in their own way. That's one Thing. And the thing I would say to my younger self is, you know, congratulations, you get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jones. Um, that's pretty cool. Uh, and also, you know, your daughter is incredible. She's just she's magic in every every sense of the word. Um, she just turned four a couple

weeks ago. Uh, blows my mind, you know? I look at her and and I can I can see Her future like I I just know she's going to do amazing things. Um, and I I'm all struck that I get to experience her magic. >> That's beautiful, man. I love hearing that. >> That's so special. And happy belated birthday. >> Yeah. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little >> Yeah, for sure. >> What's going through your mind? Um, no, she's she's just perfect in every way. And you know, every parent says that,

but uh you know, this morning I was actually at her new uh preschool. To sort of be back there in the context of being a dad, you know, just a wild thing. And you know, she she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I've not really talked about ever. We were expecting her To arrive in April of the year she was born. and uh we get a call that it's going to be sooner. So we we basically you know went into action and and um she was born via surrogate and so

we got to the hospital and um she came out she was 1b 11 oz and you know purple basically. Um they these angels at the NICU kind of resuscitated her in that moment and um you know got her taken care of really quickly and intubated and everything Else and and so um because it was co times my wife and I we would basically um do 12-hour shifts at the hospital for uh 3 and 1/2 months. I could still sort of like smell it. You know, there's always visceral things. It's it's was both comforting and frightening

to be there every day and to see sort of other families going through similar situations. Um but she fought every day uh for three and a half months and you know slowly started to gain some weight And after six blood transfusions she was she was doing great and and uh you know we got to take her home after 3 and a half months and I feel like she knows how she entered the world and what that first chapter of her life was like and so every day is a gift and you can actually feel it

on her um in the way that she behaves and how exciting everything is. I don't know how much I she remembers probably nothing. Um but spiritually I believe that There's there's gratitude in her and uh you know she's she's incredible. >> I mean thank you for sharing that with us. That's I feel like that's the behind the scenes that no one has a clue about and you know we're not aware of. and talk to me about the conversations that you and Priyanka are having because I think the part that people forget when you have a

child that's going through any sort of difficulty is that you're obviously worried about the child but Then it also affects the relationship with your partner because you're both worried about the child. What were the kind of conversations you were having that was >> helping you both and supporting you both? >> We had a lot of tough conversations day in day out about caring for her. um you know trying to trying to care for each other and for her and focusing on not getting overwhelmed. Uh it can all just Feel so big and parenthood in general

is is it's a lot for everybody, you know, especially in those early stages of your kids' life. And this just became about staying emotionally tough and being there for each other. uh if you need to to cry, you know, that shoulder is is there and ready to to cry on. If you need to just have a laugh for a minute just to take your mind off, try to provide that for the other person. A lot of give and take from both of us. And uh You know, my my wife is just as as you know,

she's a brilliant, brilliant woman with a ton of heart and perspective. and the way in which he handled it was so inspiring to me and uh you know allowing for those those days to be tough but to be tougher for our little girl >> um was the focus. >> Was was there something you'd share with other couples who go through their own version of that that you think would be Really helpful to them? The thing that helped us the most was being patient with each other. It is hard sometimes when you're feeling emotional to sort

of access that logical brain to say we need to be patient. We need to to just meet your person where they are in that moment. And that that goes both ways. And so, you know, being patient with your your partner is is crucial. Yeah, I can imagine those 12-hour shifts back to Back for 3 months felt like they lasted forever. >> Yeah, >> I can feel like it it didn't feel like 3 months. It must have felt like it's never ending. >> Well, it's not the kind of thing that you ever want to find a

routine doing. You know, it's it's bizarre when you're when you're used to uh going to the hospital every day, you know. It's it's a like a tough reality Check when that >> because she had to be kept in hospital, right? >> Yeah. She was in the NICU for 3 and 1/2 months. Yeah. So, you know, just driving there and back each day and and seeing each other sort of as passing ships was a crazy thing. And I'll just say this about the NICU nurses. They are truly angels. And we've, you know, seen a few at

some of our shows. Priyanka spoke about this Experience once before in in an interview and so some people knew and and so there was some NICU nurses at a couple of the shows and it was hold up the sign and it makes me cry every time I see it cuz they're they're angels and we actually got to have some of the nurses that were taking care of Malty Marie come out to a show and I met them um after or sorry just before and it was uh yeah incredible to And I got to show them

a photo of her now. She's She's no Longer 1 lb 11 oz. >> Yeah. >> Beautiful, healthy little four-year-old girl. >> I love that. Has she been out to see some of you? >> She has. Yeah. >> Yeah. She um she loves our song, Love Me to Heaven. >> She sings it at the top of her lungs. And basically, she's got the bug already. She wants to be on stage. And So Priyanka has to stand side with her holding her dress back so she doesn't run on the stage with us. she doesn't quite understand that

that you know she she can't join just yet. Um >> but I'm sure she will someday. >> Yeah. I love that you you spoke about how you know you congratulate your younger self for marrying Bria which I love and I think you guys have been married for what seven years now? >> Seven years. >> Yeah. Seven years. >> And I wanted to ask you because your relationship is so special even even from the outside in and for those who don't know you I think everyone you know loves that. What did you know from the moment

you met? Like was it that early and that clear? Is it one of those if you know you know when you know you know? >> In some ways um you know I was first kind of introduced to Priyanka Uh by way of seeing her billboard on Sunset Boulevard for her show Quantico. And I was like wow she's stunning is what I thought. And I was doing this movie with this guy who had just worked with her and he said hey you know you guys would really hit it off but he never connected us. >> Mhm.

So after a few months of waiting to be connected, I I got impatient and went on Twitter and saw she followed me, which she claims we followed each other. I didn't, but I saw she followed me. So I I DM'd her and we messaged for about a year before we kind of ever met in person. And then we finally met up for uh a drink in New York. I almost uh left cuz she was about 45 minutes late. um which which I I now know is a is a a thing. So I I expect that.

Um >> but I I thankfully I stayed and she sat down and we we had a great conversation and um went back to her place after to to Have another drink. And and as we walked in, her mom was there watching Law and Order. So I met her mother on the first night that we met, which is perfect. It wasn't until about a year after that after talking, you know, back and forth that I I was like, we need to really give this a proper proper go. Let's when you're back in LA next, let's go

on a date. And that night when I saw her walk in, uh she was wearing blue jeans, a white top, and like a black leather Jacket. And I just was like, I'm going to marry this woman. And I knew it right away. I told her that I loved her after the second or third date. And I called my mom the next day and said, "I'm going to marry this woman. I'd love for you to meet her soon." It was literally 2 and a half months after that that we were engaged and 3 months after that

or four months after that that we were married. >> Yeah. >> 7 years later. It's crazy. >> That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. I love that. It is is when in that sense when you know you know there's I'm thinking about it as you're explaining it like you've you know as I was saying people are obsessed about your guys' relationship you know analyzing it constantly how have you protected that even when you're going through things like in the niku like >> you know everyone's excited for you guys To have kids there's you know you're in

the public eye both of you massive superstars and how have you protected that relationship through all of that >> for some people on paper maybe at first it it wasn't like the right fit. I maybe it's fact that we do have an age difference. We're from different parts of the world. Um all those things are exactly why it's right and why it works and is so beautiful. There's so much about the Indian culture which I've I've Gotten to know and and love family and the importance of family and big families being you know at the

at the center of that and and I really took to all the the cultural differences and loved um not just you know the family aspect but the food and and friends and just all of it. And so that was like perfect. We checked that box and and then like our our age difference was something that I think really bonds us and I've lived a lot of life and and you Know 33 years and so I think having someone who who has real perspective and and depth and and wanted to build a life together was something

that I was was really drawn to. Um, and the way we protect it, uh, I think is by finding ways to to laugh through tough moments. You know, not going to bed angry and knowing that our ability to build life together and to have our our privacy is is on us. It's it's no one else's responsibility. So, you know, we have to We have to find those times to just be a family, to just have the three of us be together and have those quiet moments and and really prioritize it cuz that that is our

only job >> as parents is to to just create an environment where she feels safe to to grow and be herself and and it really starts with with my wife and I building that. And um it's it's for no one else but us. >> Yeah. Yeah, I was saying I love the way You've celebrated the culture together. I was saying that the Dvali party at yours. >> Yeah. >> A few years back you were throwing this incredible Dvali party. It's like the best Dvali pies I've ever been to and it would be like you I

mean first of all you look great in a ka too. So it's like it helps but then like I remember Joe being in a full Shirani too and like you guys it felt like a wedding but you had Like the best Diwali food, best decorations, the candle lights. I mean it was spectacular. and to to celebrate that with you and for you to invite >> so many of your friends who may not be aware of Dvali and the culture and the way you both brought that in LA was was so spectacular. Like I loved it.

It was one of my it was without a doubt one of my favorite Dvali parties ever. So >> we had the best time. It was it was a >> an amazing thing to to bring the Daisy Culture into LA like that and to feel so many of our friends who who hadn't experienced it just having the time of their life. You know, I think Indians know how to do holidays way better than than than we do here in the US. >> Well, well, well, based on that, I don't know if you know this, but Priyanka

has sent some uh answers to some questions. >> Oh, really? >> And we asked her, >> okay, >> beforehand. So, I'm going to ask you the same questions. And and from what I know, I was I was telling the team when we were preparing for this, I was like, you know, Nick's really good at details. Like, I was like, I've seen Nick talk about Brian. Like, he doesn't miss a beat. And we share that. I'm like that when me and my wife talk, I'm like, I know all the details. And so I was like on

that right >> and Priyanka sent her answers. So that they're all real answers. They've been verified. So what was Priyanka's first impression of Nick? >> What would she say? >> Handsome. No. Um, I think she probably thought that I was um, you know, sort of quiet as we discussed, you know, reserved, um, choosing my words carefully or whatever. I was surprised at how candid she was and funny. Uh, you know, she's she to me at That point, I had seen her interviews and things and she's she's quite regal, right? she has this real like >>

presence about her and I and so I I I don't know expected me but I was I think um she would say that I was like trying to seem more adult or something cuz she she talks about how she thought I was like putting on a bit of an act like this is just it's who I am. Sorry. >> Is that so she says it shows how well You know each other. She goes he was acting older than he is. He took me to a bougie bar with an average age of 65. >> Yeah, that's

true. >> That's true. >> That's true. 65. >> I mean, around that. It's a great bar. They've got nice little jazz quartet. I thought it was good. >> Okay. Uh, second question. Where was your first kiss? >> First kiss um was On the balcony at her hotel um right here in Los Angeles. >> Yeah. She was very specific. She said the peninsula in LA date number two. >> Yes. >> So if anyone wants to uh go and visit that site, you can be specific. >> The site of the first kiss. >> Yeah. Who said I

love you first? >> I did. Yeah. >> Yeah. She said Nick 3 to 4 days in. >> Yeah. >> What was the moment you realized that Nick was the one? >> Oh, maybe when I went to India with her for the first time. >> She said when he asked me to marry him and I said yes. Oh, well that's good timing. >> It's like Yeah, just just in time. That's right. >> Just in time. >> What would Priyanka say Nick was the most nervous about on your wedding day? >> To be honest, I wasn't I

wasn't that nervous about anything on the wedding day. It was just it was hot. So, I was I was nervous I was going to be sweating and that I would look crazy. But uh no, I I think when she when she walked out, she came down the stairs um I felt this overwhelming sense of Peace >> like I was exactly where I was supposed to be. >> Yeah, she agrees. She says he was so sure in control. I never saw him nervous. So you you hit the sweats. Well, that's it's impressive. That's I know those

Indian outfits get so hot. >> Oh my. That is one thing they need to figure out. >> Every time I'm wearing a Kurto, I'm like this is so hot. I don't answer. Anyone Does in India. Uh, what is Brianka's favorite song of Nicks? >> I think um I believe >> she says Close. >> Close. Oh, that's right. I did know that. >> Close. She loves close. >> Yeah. >> So, that's the only wrong one so far. That's This is really This is going great. We've got a few more. What is Priyanka's favorite dish Nick cooks

for her? >> I can't really uh cook that well. I make sandwiches sometimes. >> She says tuna sandwich. Oh, >> yeah. That's perfect. Yeah, >> that's about all all I can do. >> Yeah. Yeah, me too. I I can't cook to save my life. So, uh, what is Nick's most annoying habit? >> Uh, I I cannot think of what she's going to say for this. Overthinking. Is that Is that a fair answer? >> She goes, "When he's talking to me on the phone and typing a text, lol." >> She does hate that. She'll ask me,

"Hey, can you make sure to send this message to it?" like, "Yeah, yeah." So, I'm doing it in real time so I don't forget. >> Yeah, totally. >> She's like, "I'm on the phone with you." I'm like, "But you just >> You just told me." Yeah. I don't want to forget. >> To write it down. >> I'm with you. I'm with you on that one and I'm on your side. >> He has a separate device. >> Yeah. Absolutely. You're just being productive. Efficient. Yeah. What does Priyanka do that really annoys Nick? >> She will answer

the phone and then be talking to someone else in the room for like 30 seconds before she then My is always just like just call me back if you're in the middle of a conversation. But it's like literally we'll be talking. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And as if I'm on the phone with She's It's connected, but we're still talking. Then she goes, "Hey, what's up?" I'm like, >> "Hi." >> It's not like a real thing. Annoying thing. It's just funny. >> Yeah. She goes, "I interrupt him when he's talking, but it's actually the Other way

around. It's it's calling you and then talking to someone else." I love that. >> What would Priyanka say is the thing Nick does that makes her laugh every time? >> Not a good answer, but I don't know. What is it >> when he's being desy? It's an endearing laugh. >> That's That's nice. >> And then final one. What is Nick way too Competitive about? >> Most things, I would say. >> She said everything. >> Everything. >> Well, that's pretty good. >> You did good, Nick. I I mean, you did I I literally think you got

like two wrong out of like 20 questions. That's pretty impressive. So, you are competitive at everything cuz >> I am. >> You did pretty good. I love that. Ben, One thing that I think you know genuinely and you know even from the way you've talked today, you're such a it feels like you're trying to be such a present good husband. I wanted to ask you what what is a good husband? What makes a good husband? What are you aspiring to be when you're trying to be a good husband? I think that being a good husband

for me means being reliable, Um, trustworthy, um, knowing that our daughter is watching and will one day hopefully find somebody that makes her incredibly happy. and the way in which I treat her mother is incredibly important to who she becomes. Um, so it is my my responsibility to do all I can to make Priyanka happy, to feel safe, and to make her laugh, to to know that That life is a mixed bag of emotions and experiences, and it can feel really uh disorienting and overwhelming sometimes. But it's a lot easier to traverse all that with

a partner who you can rely on. >> Well said. Really, really well said. Where with your inner critic, where in your married life have you had to give yourself more grace? >> I can be reactive. Um, it's part of being a sibling. I feel, you know, we All do that, right? We we and you kind of do it when you're growing up cuz you you're fighting for your place in the dynamic of the family and you share that space with these people as you know kids and teens. You kind of have to fight for yourself

a little bit and defend and um being defensive I feel like is an area in my my life as a whole but also my marriage that I I'm always trying to improve on. >> Um thinking that you know that a a Comment of any kind is somehow a criticism of me. I'm like, I'm supposed to just trust this person to to care for me and and yet I'm being defensive about a thing that's so insignificant. And >> what am I trying to protect is the thing I always think about. Like, and it's this guy, this

other version of me that I I somehow believe is like perfect. >> I'm like, how stupid can I be? That's not only impossible, it's just dumb. like you just and I I've seen that the Times in my relationship with my wife where I'm quicker to, you know, a hug as opposed to something defensive or trying to defend myself. It's like just better. >> Mhm. >> Life is better, >> aren't we all? We could all relate to that. >> Yeah. always trying to protect my ego, protect my, you know, sense of self when when in reality

it's, yeah, it's this Trying to protect this perfect version of me that definitely doesn't exist. And yeah, you just Yeah, it's it's crazy what you what you could risk losing by trying to protect something that >> Yeah. >> that isn't isn't isn't even real, you know? >> So true. >> Yeah. I want to pick out another lyric that I loved. You write in your song Princesses. I use my imagination for a living. I tell stories and build worlds. But I never wanted one more than this one with my little girl. I'm fascinated by your questions.

I'm terrified to let you down. There's no one and nowhere that I'd rather be than with you here right now. And even when you started this interview, you talked about how your sense of self has changed so much since being a father. >> Yeah. What has been the thing that surprised you most about yourself since having your daughter? >> If I'm being totally honest, which I want to be, um, things surprised me most is how easy it was to play make believe and be silly and do a kid voice. Like I I was never one

of those people that did the kind of voice and all of a sudden I'm just doing it. I always was embarrassed to to be silly. Um, and I I'm not with her. And I I love the world that she builds with her mind. And getting to spend time with her there is is really incredible. >> And I think it's made me a a better friend and and husband and and better creator, you know, as as I approach my songwriting now. and and you know, the work I do as an actor, I feel like I'm way

more prepared uh for that because I I've gotten to Spend time in her world and and it's this magical place where like anything's possible, you know, and and it's such a wonderful wonderful thing. >> What was your what was both of your reasons for wanting to keep her out of the spotlight and keep her personal life pretty private? >> It should be her choice. Um, I'm grateful that my parents supported our dream and that they they never, you Know, looked back or questioned it. They they they ran with us, which was wonderful. And we all

knew this is what we wanted to do. Um, she has not expressed that yet. uh if she if she does, we'll support her, you know, and and and give her all the context that that we have from the the 20 plus years that we both been doing what we've been doing. That might be helpful, but it should be her choice. And you know, the world is Is crazy, too. It's a weird >> weird world. Um, and so I I think it's it's better for her to take her time and and you know, have have the

privacy that that she needs to become who she wants to become. >> It's a tough decision when she's like trying to run onto the stage, right? She's like, I want it like you know, but no, it makes so much sense and it's such a feel like parents over the last few years have had to add that to all the List of things that parents have to worry about, >> right? If you think about it, it's like our parents never really had to think about that. And then probably parents in the last 10 to 15 years

have had to really maybe even 10 to 15 years ago you didn't think about it you just did it and then in the last 5 years 10 years people are being so much more specific. What we were talking earlier about as we get older we almost get more scared and You were talking about your younger self being so fearless. What are the fears that came up after having a daughter and what were the fears that went away after becoming a dad? I have not uh been formally diagnosed with anxiety. Um I mentioned I I speak

to a therapist. uh she's she's wonderful and and has given me a lot of tools that are are helpful when I feel uh kind of overwhelmed or or anxious and naturally during the time that we discussed where Our daughter was in the NICU um was a stressful and overwhelming time and I think having that as the sort of foundation for her entry into the world um made me anxious. about everything. Um, not just parenting and all that, but but life in general. And so, I've had a few moments where I' i've had flare-ups, I guess,

where I I was uh stressed to a degree that didn't feel comfortable. And I think a lot of parents can probably Relate to that. You know, it's a you you're basically when you leave the hospital, they ask you, "Are you ready to take your daughter home?" It's like, "Well, of yeah, of course I I I you know, >> but um it's a crazy question to be asked. You're like, I get Yeah, I am. >> I'm ready to take my daughter home." And that like meant more than just that moment. It was like her whole life

suddenly I'm like I'm I'm I'm Responsible for you know this person. So yeah that's the ne the positive that I've taken is as I mentioned that the ability to to just be silly and carefree and >> and see the world the way she does and and all these experiences are so amazing again things that can seem mundane um as you get older and you just kind of you know glass is clear. or why is glass clear was one of the questions he asked Me. And it's like it's a fascinating question. Why? How? Find myself on

Google like researching all this stuff that I just sort of accepted. And now this person, this little four-year-old person's like, why? And you get to ask the questions yourself. And and why are people mean? It's like it's a great question. Probably cuz they're hurting. And >> it was it's just everything uh gets sort of go it goes through this new filter >> that is uh really exciting. It's amazing how both the things you said are literally counter opposites in that one part of you of course has anxiety and care and fear for this you know

child that you love and has gone through this you know very difficult beginning to her life but has blossomed and you know grown so beautifully and then at the other end it's like oh but I'm also more carefree and like now I get to explore and now I Get to be curious and I and it's so fascinating how like life does that to you like I'm just sitting here literally reflecting on and listening to you going how strange strange like the same thing that naturally you have a sense of fear and anxiety around is the

same thing that's teaching you to be carefree and be and it's like how do how does how does a human even you know make sense of that like how do you make sense of that in the human experience it's uh with Your anxiety is that been something that you've because that feels like more new despite you having you know such a life in the public eye we talked about all the events building up to even this point but I think yeah having a kid and getting older feels like there's an anxiety that parents get around

that that's, you know, incomparable to anything they've experienced before. What What's really helped you? What's worked for you as a way to say this Really helps me when I'm experiencing those moments or phases? >> I think moving my body in some way always helps. Getting physical, uh whether that's working out or or taking a long walk, playing golf. I really enjoy playing golf. But when I was in New York this last year doing this Broadway show, um I had about a 45minute walk from our apartment to the the theater each day and it was so

important to my routine. Um the show itself is Incredibly intense and you know the subject material is just like heavy. So I needed a way to process some of those those feelings each each day. Then on top of that it's just it's a a lot of work. eight shows a week, six days a week. And so, you know, it was it was a lot. And so those walks were important. >> Um, and then I, you know, speaking to my my therapist, it's not even like there's practices per se, but there's just, I think, Real health

in a routine and and just talking. I used to judge myself and kind of during that process like talking with therapists and like am I being as truthful as I need to be to get the results I'm hoping to get? And >> I don't think that I always was uh as transparent as as I probably needed to be. um with this person that I speak to. Um it's great because I I do feel that that freedom, that safety to to speak and and like there's there's real Balance and for for all the the men out

there, it's important. There is a stigma still for a lot of people and there shouldn't be. Um and you're going to see like incredible results in your life if you if you do it. >> Yeah, absolutely. And and it takes a second to get honest with someone. I mean, it's it's not, you know, it's it's hard to even sit with someone who who's a stranger and Doesn't know anything about your life and really be honest, especially someone like yourself who has a such a public life and you can garner so much. I mean, I was

I was thinking about like I saw your response to everyone wondering what was happening at the Golden Globes and you responded saying it hit you like a gut punch and I was like, >> what was that for you? What was happening at the Golden Globes that you were going through? >> Yeah. So I I this is like the second time I'm mentioning this on on this conversation, but heat like really gets me. Um and because I have a you know a sort of physical aspect of that as well with my my type 1 diabetes, it

can just have an effect, right? So >> I was uh I was just really hot on the carpet and then I started stressing that I looked like I was sweating. My hands were getting clammy and holding like everything kind of hit me at once. Uh Then my sugar started to feel or my glucose started to feel a little uh low and and so I just took a step, went outside, got some fresh air and and >> you know, it's funny like we're we're all the same, right? Like we get overwhelmed, we get hot. It's like

>> it's a lot happening. Um and so I just was like, you know what, there's no harm in just taking a beat for myself. That's that's what I did. >> Had a sip of water and was back in Action. >> I'm glad you gave everyone else permission to do the same. >> Yeah. Everyone, if you need second, take a second. I I'm so far away from this world obviously I didn't grow up in this world and then when you you know get onto a red carpet and you just realize especially for someone like yourself Priyanka

etc of just like the amount of people shouting your name the amount of stops that you have to do how quickly Everything moves like >> you know TV interview video interview this that it's it's so chaotic those red carpets especially at those big events that I think there's it's it's hard to understand why it would feel stressful cuz it almost looks really glamorous in the pictures and >> and to some degree It is, but but it isn't as well. Like it, you know, >> it can be a lot. >> I think more often than not,

people feel Quite anxious on red carpets. From what I've heard, at least from talking to people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um especially when it's like 95°. I think it was a cold week in LA and they had it tinted thinking it was going to be >> cold and it ended up being a really hot day. So, it was just kind of cooking >> and it it was, you know, the only Positive from that was that it was a really good conversation starter inside. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You immediately could be like, "How hot was

the carpet?" Huh? That just sort of broke the ice. >> That's so good. Yeah. Yeah, that definitely does help. Yeah, that or if it's raining in LA becomes a great couple. Very rare to happen, too. >> Nick, it's been uh it's been amazing talking to you and I really appreciate How honest you've been, how, >> you know, thoughtful you've been. Just I felt like I've laughed with you. You know, you've you've brought us all to really emotional moments of just like sitting with you through the journey you've been on. And I feel like as a

man listening to someone who is speaking so openly about therapy, about selfwork, about being a loving father, husband, I think you're just setting a wonderful example and and also a human example. I Think one that is real and, you know, isn't perfect and isn't coming across as this is how to do it, but it's like this is the reality of everything I'm trying to juggle. Yeah. And and I think as someone who I I hope I get to be a dad one day, it's like it's nice to see the, you know, the thoughts that will

probably go through my head too and and the realities of what it feels like when you're finally holding this human that you love so deeply and get to experience The carefree, curious, but also the stress and the anxiety that comes with it. So, thank you for giving us all the layers, >> of course. Thank you for >> asking such thoughtful questions. And you'll be an amazing father someday. So, I I I hope that for you. And um you know, I I certainly um I'll be the first to admit I don't know what the hell I'm

doing. Um I'm just trying to do my best, I guess. And you know, my my Dad set a pretty incredible example and all the sort of you know, memories there um are things I'm trying to take into and apply into my my life now. So, thanks for the conversation. This was great. >> I love it. Thank you so much. We created a special ending for you. Seeing as your new single is called Gut Punch. >> Mhm. >> We're going to play a game called Gut Reaction. >> Okay. >> So, you have to finish the sentence

with the first word or phrase that pops into your head. >> Perfect. >> What is the best advice you've ever received? >> Live like you're at the bottom, even if you're at the top. >> That is a great answer. We've never had that before. I love that. All right. Second question. What is the worst Advice you've ever heard or received? >> Take this tequila shot. >> Yeah, >> it's a good answer. >> It's never never a good idea. >> You're good at gut gut reaction. So, this is good. The brother I call when I need

to be brutally honest is >> Joe, but all all three of my brothers, but you know. Yeah, Joe. >> Yeah. My guilty pleasure artist or song is. >> This is not a one word answer. I'm sorry, but I don't believe in guilty pleasures. I think you should be able to love whatever you love. There's good in everything. I feel the same way about TV, >> but there are shows that are just trash, which I love. >> So, what is the artist or song that isn't a guilty pleasure, but you're allowed to love? >> Nickelback. It's

great. I love the songs. They're fantastic. >> I love it. Uh, the thing I hate admitting Priyanka is always right about is >> people. >> Ah, wow. >> Yeah, she's always right about people. Before I can see it, I'm like, >> damn, she's right again. >> Wow, that's that's a good skill to have. >> Not always negative either. It's not Like she's skeptical of people, but she has she's really perceptive and and >> listens. So, you know, it's Yeah, Pet. >> I love that. All right, fifth and final question. We ask this to every guest

who's ever been on the show. If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be? >> I think teachers should get paid more. >> So, yeah, let's make that a law kind of. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But >> we'll probably add the NICU nurses to that as well. Exactly. They're amazing people who are working super hard every day make making the country actually function. So, >> so true. >> Yeah. >> Nick Jonas, so excited for Sunday best and for everyone to listen to it. Thank you for uh

being such a joy to spend time with. I'm so grateful that we got To do this and I hope we get to do it again. We got to get you and Priyanka back together at some point. That's that's my big goal. >> I would love that. >> Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. Thank you, man. Thank you so much. If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion. >> My fears are only going to continue to

Show me what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, the more that I feel I'm gaining strength. I'm gaining wisdom.