The Red Pill - Men's Rights DOCUMENTARY

Foreign have you ever been through something and you don't know what just happened but you know it was important to go through this is that Journey for me thank you [Music] misogynist rantings would be at home in the far-reaching internet subculture widely described as the men's Rights Movement a toxic distillation of the worst aspects of American sexism it's a universe of Message Board where men get together to express their hatred towards women well I I thought men's have all the advantages in the world these days that's under nonsense men are routinely ground up in a

family court system that is misinterest and biased against them they are the majority of the homeless they are the majority of suicides they Are the majority of the drug addicted they are the majority of the unemployed they are the majority of school dropouts there are a majority of those in prison how do we know that they're not the cause of these problems women live longer Mark let me tell you it is because we are stronger and we are happier at the end of the day than most men and that is factual and you know it

when men are married to women who scream like you they just want to die sooner Yeah a voice for men an online hub for men's rights activists and they were founded by a man named Paul Ellen it's a website called a voice for men that's run by a man named Paul Elum which is male spelled backwards but it is his real name apparently it's a gathering of women haters the Southern Property Law Center has classified that group and men's rights Groups as hate groups he wrote a piece declaring the month of October to be bash

a violent [ __ ] month I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall he wrote you may be wondering why I'm sitting in a car with notorious men's rights activist Paul Elam that's a valid question and to answer it I need to start at the beginning The beginning of how I became a feminist I was a quiet kid preferring to observe from afar my mom put me in theater classes when I was eight years old to break me into my shell and I loved it so much to

the point that I decided to move to Hollywood when I was 18 years old to become an actress what I wasn't prepared for was to be pigeonholed as the blonde who always died Billy foreign I had a good scream But the characters I played weren't alone and feeling objectified I was commonly harassed on the streets hit on by married producers told by photographers to come back when I lost 15 pounds and got a boob job and a plethora of other uncomfortable experiences all while still being a teenager I started to realize my role in the

world seemed a little too similar to the unfortunate roles I was auditioning for And it was not how I saw myself or the person that I wanted to be so I quit acting and bought a video camera to tell the stories I wanted to tell and now I've been making documentary films since 2008 when I was 21 years old most of my work has been about women's issues and sexuality I've covered a range of topics from the phenomenon of purity balls to Reproductive Rights Single motherhood and LGBT rights after releasing my film in 2012 about

marriage equality I was at a loss of what topic to explore next and that's when two horrific stories broke the news two star high school football players in Steubenville Ohio have been found guilty of raping a West Virginia teenager the video shows the former Steubenville Student callously joking about the incident s outrage across India as a 23 year old woman the victim of one of the most horrific rapes India has ever heard of a 90-minute horror for a 23 year old medicine student on this bus gang raped and beaten her friend assaulted and thrown out

off the bus every day pilots on the street I started to research this rape culture A website called a voice for men popped up Paul Elam wrote about how women long to live out their rape fantasies to be taken by a man she's never spoken to let alone given consent to as I read I was asking myself is this the rape apologist that I've been hearing about the victim blamer who perpetuates rape culture I continue to read a voice for men's Website often stopping around the halfway mark in every article because I could only read

so many [ __ ] [ __ ] feminazi and raped hard words per minute but even still I kept reading and thinking and reading some more I was trying to understand how these what I perceive to be women haters could have so many followers so I decided to meet these mras the ones leading the movement some of their followers too And this begins my journey down the rabbit hole this ladies and gentlemen is an historic moment never before has there been a gathering of this magnitude to support men and boys issues we have got serious

problems I have been working in this area advocating for the rights and here we go [Applause] what you'll hear is that we hate women you'll hear that it's a backlash against women's rights you'll hear that we're regressives that want women back in the kitchen and making sandwiches and and barefoot and pregnant you're just bitter you're a loser you're a whiner you're ugly you're undesirable you're lazy you're scary you must be a racist you must be a misogynist when we do speak out women often don't want to hear what What we have to say and so

then we're called names we're called whiners and this is the way people who don't want men to talk about issues try to shut us up um no other way to openly organize other than calling yourselves a men's Rights group worse maybe it's just because you're pathetic We're here to fight how something is different [ __ ] think they have the right to oppress women white men are starting to feel misplaced because women are sharing space it's disgusting and scroll the [ __ ] up and don't confuse suffrage with oppression everyone suffers it's Universal I am

a man and I need feminism [Music] and it is crystal clear that the problems for minute boys are Real I would like to turn a microphone over to um of a voice for man or some words [Applause] this is a historic day I've never seen a gathering like this out of concern for the General State of Affairs for men and boys in this culture and is assigned to articulate the entire Platform of the men's Rights Movement is kind of like trying to understand a snow drift one snowflake at a time it's a very very complicated

matter just consider this that 93 percent of workplace fatalities are men four of five suicides permit men are dropping out of higher education and very alarming ranks We're down to 38 percent now of college students are met and it's dropping rapidly male suicide male abuse mail unemployment male Homelessness male failure and education male health issues we've got the paternity fraud issue and the wrongful paternity issue a false allegation issue men are sentenced to 63 percent more prison time for the same crime as women they're less likely to see a doctor they're less likely to have

health insurance the family court system truly is biased against men I mean there's just no question about it and it's really the pro-choice for women only Movement because men they're denying men any kind of choice once a child is conceived her body her choice right think about men his body his choice not so much because the US government does not want to send you to die if you'd rather send me did I young men that are failing to launch they're staying in their homes of origin far past the time that we would normally expect them

to individuate and move out and and go live their lives we have Video game addiction we have pornography addiction we have uh the abuse of young boys with drugs like Ritalin to manage their behavior almost all victims of autism spectrum disorders are boys boys are most likely to be homeless most likely to get cancer most likely to die young and of every major cause most likely to be arrested prosecuted imprisoned and even executed while being completely innocent it doesn't matter what their race is it doesn't matter What their ethnicity is it doesn't matter what their

religious or non-religious views are it doesn't matter if they're gay or straight men and boys are in crisis and they need your help and they need your support because they are human beings too and you will not shame me or anybody here into Silence about it any more [Applause] but if you start to talk about those issues and address them in in terms of How they affect men and boys as a group people get hostile about it the idea is that men have all the rights they've always had the power but if that's true why

can't men talk about their problems and that's what really got me interested in this to begin with shortly after I began filming men's rights activists I realized my own views were being challenged I kept a video diary throughout filming And I've decided to share some of those diaries with you I really do feel like learning about the men's movement and their specific issues the issues that they have issue with it's hard for me to completely understand them and just automatically feel welcome in that space of talking about these issues because at least with feminism whenever

I heard about the issues that feminists were fighting against I always felt like I had something to draw from and experience to be on board with that and that's always been why I've been drawn to the feminist movement is because a lot of what they spoke about I had personal experiences with and with the men's movement I have very little personal experiences with the issues that they talk about [Music] a cab driver who was driving a cab 70 hours a week was not saying I am earning This money to have power over my wife he's

he was earning this money even though it took power away from his life he was doing that so his child wouldn't have to drive that cab the garbage collector does not get up at three or four in the morning and rain and sleet and snow and and get out to or do the garbage so we can have more power over his wife that's power he's losing over his life in order to make his contribution his sacrifice his way of Loving and this has been translated into the culture of you make more money than women do

you must therefore have more power meet Warren Farrell best-selling author and self-styled social Anthropologist leading an assault on our traditional thinking about men I asked my girlfriend at the time to buy me as a gift I think it was for Christmas for my birthday Warren Farrell's book The Myth of male power Which she did and it just changed my whole life and his premise was while women are often seen as sex objects men are often seen as success objects and this resonated with me he wrote this book that that questioned our Notions of power of

who had power and where it was and it questioned the roles of men but not the white feminist had always questioned gender roles every society that survived survived based on its ability to train its Sons To be disposable disposable in war as Warriors disposable and work as firefighters as workers on oil rigs and so on coal miners and indirectly therefore disposable as dads what happens in men's life when they're raised that they're worthless unless they're a provider that they must work even if they have to take on extremely dangerous work they must get this done

or they're useless as men That is very very powerful stuff see feminism did see accurately that we value male work more than we value female work but there's also the issue that we value female life more than we value male life thank you even when that plane went down in New York City a few years ago and that you know the pilot was a hero for the way he landed it and saved everybody Ward arrived over the city-wide Fire Frequency that a commercial jetliner was in the water with 155 people on board then over the

next few minutes the doors opened life vests were inflated and women and children first everyone got off that plane they saved all the women first that's still when I went on a cruise you know they're still women into the lifeboats for you know because you're not because you're a man so you should be able to swim halfway across the ocean but because you're a man You're expandable we have to look at not just the glass ceilings but also the glass Cellars and Paul I think as you are saying we have to look at men just

not only as human doings but also as human beings when you survive because somebody else is willing to die like in war then that you are immune to the pain of the people who are dying because you have an investment in there being willing to die you say I will build a statue I will remember you In a history book but if you look at that from another perspective that building of the statue or remembering you in history book is a bribe to be willing to die so that I can live tend to turn what

rejects them into an object so the area we're meant I'm watching this lecture that Warren Farrell's giving in the 90s I see some women in the crowd and a lot of them have their hands folded and There is a little bit of uncomfortableness by being a woman and a crowd of people while the speaker's talking about how men are oppressed and women have it so great it kind of puts you on the defensive as a woman and understanding that I feel that way makes me wonder are men having their arms crossed listening to a Feminist

speaker talk about how men have all the power and women are oppressed are men feeling like what are you talking about I don't have power and we have it pretty shitty on this side of the grass too [Applause] in 2012 Dr Warren Farrell was speaking on behalf of men's issues at the University of Toronto in Canada a feminist group protested the event You are [ __ ] scum [ __ ] Brave apologists incest supporting woman hating [ __ ] scum as many people as I can you know what though why would you pay money to

[ __ ] support a [ __ ] rape apologist if you weren't [ __ ] once [Music] [ __ ] stop um [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] this is [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] thank you but feral wasn't always so attentive to men in fact for years he focused almost Exclusively on women's issues rubbing shoulders with feminist leaders like Gloria Steinem and he's still a card-carrying member of the National Organization for Women I believe that women cannot hear what men do not say and he's got a lot to say to both men and women

in his provocative new book The Myth of male power that was making a very significant amount of money speaking around the world on behalf of women's issues alone I went through a period of forming lens groups and then when I listened to them I thought well gee this will be really helpful to present to audiences so that they can understand not only women's side but men's side too because I was released totally in the feminist camp and immediately I saw my standing ovations dropped I started hearing that there was people saying no don't invite him

there you know and to speak with us and pretty soon I had you know very few College and university speaking agents how did you originally get involved with feminism write a battle again I was doing my doctorate in political science at NYU in the late 60s and the women's movement surfaced thank you and I started to say this is the most exciting thing I've ever heard because I'd heard of civil rights gay rights but suddenly women were saying I don't want to be confined to just being a homemaker Or secretary and so it's like why

shouldn't women be encouraged to do everything they possibly can do and at that point in time I saw a lot of Women Marry men that they weren't completely in love with but they the man earned a fair amount and so I thought that's just a form of prostitution extended over a lifetime how depressed that must make a woman and it's not going to be good for a man either he never knows whether he's loved For who he is or love for what he has and he's afraid to give up producing because he's afraid to lose

love and so women who were successful to me appear to be women who were free men from having to be all you know wrapped up in just being the only breadwinner and supporting one two three four five people which you know it's one thing to support yourself when you're supporting five people you don't have the freedom to question your boss Because you're supporting five people the first issue of feminism was to say just because I'm a woman maybe I don't want to spend my life raising children you know don't don't force me into that role

against my will so they looked at man and said well you're not forced to raise children you don't have any issue but for men the traditional sex Soul was not raising children for us the traditional sex role is to be a provider a protector and to initiate Relationships each of us has traditional sex roles Don't Force us to carry out those traditional sex roles we have the same rules set up for men that they've always lived by that you need to protect and provide at any cost but we've changed everything where it concerns women they

now have access to everything men have always had access to to education to work to whatever they want to do But they're not the ones driving the semis and they're not the ones in the coal mines you don't hear the National Organization for Women complaining that there is just not enough female ditch figures it has still been carrying the Lion's Share for what it takes to to operate and maintain this Society and it is still the expectation that if somebody's going to go down with the Ship it's going to be meant [Music] flexibility in roles

is where we should be all headed any men's rights activist that I would support would support the portions of the women's movement that is encouraging women to have more flexibility in roles so where do the men's movement and feminism disagree well only on the fundamental belief that the women's movement says men are the oppressors That they are we are involved in a patriarchal world in which men invented the rules to benefit men at the expense of women but don't we live in a patriarchy when most of the world's Nations still have never had a female

leader and less than five percent of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are women you have to look at this in a larger perspective patriarchy is the result of gender roles and not not the vice versa Traditionally women's power and responsibility has been in the reproductive sphere while men's power and responsibility was in the productosphere you know you have to reproduce to continue the species and you have to produce to feed people so that they can reproduce so you know it's like they work together and most cultures divvied up roles because women were responsible for Childbirth

and were more likely to breastfeed they're not more likely to they were they did the breastfeeding they tended to be involved in the role of raising children men tended to be involved in the role of embracing money or making a killing of the animals or making a killing on Wall Street but those were our obligations so that's why industry was male dominated and government was male dominated because that that was our job And so what we call patriarchy is men giving in to the expected roles that they're supposed to give into and many of those

roles are very harmful working exceptionally long hours difficult hours dangerous jobs getting killed on the job even politics a lot of people describe as masochism imagine what it takes to be a successful politician imagine how much of your personal life that you give up how much you work How much privacy that you sacrifice how much freedom in your day-to-day life that goes out the window there are more men willing to do those things than there are women but also just because men are the ones for instance writing the laws in general doesn't mean that the

laws are protecting men you hear about patriarchy right although Evil's the world's from patriarchy but we're the ones dying And we die for you guys you know protect our families our friends in every society that's ever existed women have been have had privilege and protection that mended on for example we never hear about how men were excluded from the forced labor Convention of 1930 for years the forced labor convention was an international treaty that banned slavery and forced servitude but it made an exception for able-bodied males ages 18 to 45. Eventually they got rid of

that but there was still an exemption for prisoners and Military which is 90 male stop pretending that you're oppressed and men are your oppressors it's a lie and it's a hurtful lie and it's a hateful lie and it's wrong [Music] you talk a lot about the red pill in a voice for men what is the red pill oh it's sort of a cultural slogan it comes from the movie The Matrix where the Character Neo is given the choice between a red pill and a blue pill you take the red pill you stay in Wonderland and

I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes and if she swallows the red pill the scales will be peeled back from his eyes he will see everything that he hasn't been able to see and if he takes the blue pill he'll just go back to Sleep and live in his sort of unaware semicomatos State forever and probably be a lot happier it's it's a pretty apt analogy so what is the blue pill in this world well the blue pill is the Paradigm that most people live by that men have all the power that they've

always had all the power that domestic violence is a problem that's committed by men against women only that sexual assaults are only Committed by men against women that women don't make the same money for the same work as men teach men not to write only men can stop right men commit domestic violence we need to stop violence against women instead of just stopping violence that is feminist training the MREs say that we live in a blue pill world where women are victims men are perpetrators and it's all a lie And now we're brainwashed to believe

this and that it's not true and that men are slaves in this world and women are I don't think women are necessarily the Puppet Masters but I think they're saying that women have the easy way out and men are um they're given medals and statues and written in the history books to justify them dying and being slaves to work or being Uh being used to progress societies and I've just I've believed for so long that that I'm at a disadvantage for being a woman and that I have to work harder than everyone else and I

have more to overcome and I have more to prove just because of my gender but the MREs they're saying that this is all a lie and that guys are actually the ones that are disadvantaged and discriminated against And actually the more I learned from them the more I think thank God I wasn't born a guy um because I I don't think that the the expectations on men is good or healthy I mean they they have so much pressure to succeed and to be strong and to stand up and protect others and to put their lives

on the line I don't think I would want that Responsibility but you know 50 years ago no I wouldn't have wanted to be a woman but now I I mean maybe just it's right now that the tides are changing and and women are the have the better deal well no I don't know and then sometimes I think the MREs are just duping me And giving such a strong pitch about what they believe in to convince me of something that's actually just some out there theory that men are discriminated against and women are have the advantage

this is Cassie J it's regarding a documentary about the men's rights movement and we're looking for feminist uh voices now to speak in the documentary [Music] And Miss majority yeah hold on just one second [Music] so I realized okay I need to bring some Sunrise into the mix make sure that we have that side it's good I was researching rape culture and so that's how I stumbled across a website called voiceformen.com so some of the people that we've already interviewed on the MRA side is Paul elim a voice for men yeah Oh I'm familiar with

them I've never met ever yeah obviously they've they spent a significant amount of time and energy denouncing me so I figured I might as well have a look at what they say yeah really the men's Rights Movement is part of the backlash is it backlash to feminism the men's Rights Movement really got going when as women began to make gains and some men have felt threatened by the opportunities that have been Opened up to women and I don't know if it's because uh some of them feel threatened that they now have to compete with a

lot more people for their jobs they now can't get into the best schools if a woman or a girl has better grades think about it grandfather's generation probably had it pretty well right all of his needs his shirts were ironed just all of that was always taken care of well you know grow up realize the world has changed and as much as the mras Would like things to go back to the way they were and use the argument that women have an advantage now no person looking at the data can possibly say women have an

advantage we're just beginning to get an even a Level Playing Field here uh it's not tilted in our favor I can tell you that and they know it they know it but it's the it's the constant Distortion of the data it's the spinning of a situation to make it look like Women are somehow getting ahead getting an advantage they don't deserve it's uh it's part of the backlash political organizing comes from a feeling of victimization which is why the men's Rights Movement makes that claim that men are the victims of discrimination but it doesn't have

much traction because you know you look around and it's hard to see it we don't have movements called you know straight Liberation you know instrument the Question I would pose rhetorically is is the men's Rights Movement really the gendered version of the white nationalist movement of because there are plenty of white people who say that they are the victims of reverse discrimination so it's of course it's not going to have very much traction you can't really organize the people who are superordinate so do you think that men are being discriminated against in any way Not

under the law men are not disadvantaged under our laws um or in the business world as a class men are not underrepresented on corporate boards or at the top of the fortune 1000 companies in the corporate world in the in the business World in a lot of parts of Academia in the military and the Sports World still pretty much a male-dominated world and where a lot of the Privileges and power and Status Accrue to men men are advantaged over women no question no one can no one can uh debate that not with a serious not

in any seriousness I was a math major as an undergraduate and one of the fundamental things about geometry is the distance from point A to point B equals the distance from point B to point a and if women are so different from man that men can't understand the female experience we need to listen to women to Describe it then the male experience is so different from the female experience that you can't understand you need to listen to us you can't really compare how men and women have suffered from sexism um because they're there's no way

to quantify you know that kind of suffering so if a woman says well I miss 30 of my income more than you miss Six years of life there's no way to quantify that or I've lost a job opportunity because I'm a woman there's no way to say well I've suffered more than you because you've lost a kid because you're a man you know we can't but it's serious it is serious and um and at least if you if if you're denied a job because you're a woman at least You can go to another company and

apply for a job you know but you can't when you lose your kid like you can say well okay I'll get custody of that kid you know I'll try for that one it's it's a terrible thing that that happens there was a case the Serpico case it's about a New York City undercover cop you get shot at the end of the movie and retires from the police force and he was a real man Frank Serpico a woman After the movie after this was made um decided she wanted to become a single mother and tricked him

into fathering a child and the court accepted that because she told her friend she was going to trick him and they testified and the court said yes you were tricked into it and still awarded her over 90 percent of his police pension so everything that he goes through in this movie to you know including getting shot to earn his his pension she won by Sleeping with him one night my son's mom wanted to have children with me and I had to always refuse you know saying you you have this anger problem you need to get

counseling I'm not going to consider having children with you until that's dealt with because she would lose her temper almost every day and just use any weapon she could and like a child's the perfect weapon so I was really definite about that but she Also used to proofread my articles for me and I wrote an article for Playboy about Serpico and when she read that she told her friend she's going to trick me into bothering the child she doesn't need my permission and so that's how my son was conceived then she said if you want

to see your son you have to stay in a relationship with me but if you break up with me I know all the things that a woman can do to a man you know she's read all my Articles she saw my talk shows said I know all the things a woman can do a man and I'll do them to you so um that's what I had to deal with like everything that I had been raising awareness about for the previous 17 years then she combined and to one thing for me to live through really ironic

for the first five to seven seven years I guess we would see each other four times a day For exchanges on average every single day I had to deal with some scene the scene meaning she would just not show up you know and or she would hold a kid out and then pull him back and hold them out and pull them and just kind of play with me or she'd let me have the kids and then she'd stand in the front of the car so I couldn't move you stay in mommy town tomorrow I'm gonna

stay in mommy town for a couple of days two days and then you come back to Daddy Though another time I saw her hold him by the shoulders and say daddy is a bad man daddy is a very bad man and so he had to go through this long custody battle and and the the decisions that they would make you would just go wow there couldn't be any explanation you know either they're absolute idiots or it's biased there's just no other explanation for it one other thing his mom is obese and Wanted him to be

obese for various reasons one thing is so he would identify more with her side of the family than mine because we're all almost down another was out so that he would enjoy being with her more I guess when he was at my house he had to get activity you know and eat well-balanced meals and get a sleep and stuff and and at her house they would bake brownies and stay up late and just watch TV and so where Would you if you're a little kid you know where would you enjoy being more but he self-reported

to the mediator how upset he was about being obvious that the worst thing in school is when kids call them fatty and now how he cried and his physician said that he's really concerned medically and then when I did he was at an age where he would imitate things that I would do you know I gave him a broken shaver so when I Shaved he would pretend to shave and what I did was I started weighing myself every morning and and writing down my weight the date and the weight and I taught him how to

read a scale so he kept his own records so I had six months worth of Statistics to show consistently that every time he was with his mom for a few days he'd come back weighing three or four pounds more and then he'd lose it while he was with me so they had you know that how Much he was upset about the problem they had his physician being upset about the problem and they had the proof of where the problem lay so the judge's decision was that father should no longer be allowed to weigh the child

problem solved after 14 years my body gave out and I got sicker than I've ever been I realized I'm gonna die that's not going to do anybody good I've got to give up The fight so I gave up custody and so I I don't see my son anymore he hasn't been in my house since um [Music] Fred claims that during his 14-year custody battle he spent the equivalent of five years of his gross income on legal fees mediators and child support payments I was really in his life a lot longer than most fathers would have

been it's something most fathers can't afford [Music] able to me [Music] we generally know that fathers don't get as good a deal in family court and we don't really complain about it until it happens to us and even then a lot of men don't many men's rights activists come into being men's rights activists as a result of getting a divorce wanting to be equally involved with the children and realizing that women have the right To children and men have to fight for children when your family courts run on the supposition that mothers are more fit

to be custodial parents and that fathers are more fit to provide a check every month and to become what we like to call Uncle daddy where they visit visit their children to me that's one of the greatest obscenities in the world the idea of Visiting your own children where you get to see them for two hours on Wednesday night and you get to have them for x amount of hours every other weekend and you have no sight and how they're brought up you know I can't tell you how many men have been in this office

in that chair in tears because they can't see their kids some of this stuff ends up in horrific Consequences like this gentleman here that's his little son they found him dead not the son but the young man in the desert with a bullet in his head day before the family court where it became known that he was going to get to see his little guy even less and of course he'd been falsely accused one time after another after another it had destroyed his life he had bankrupt him and driven him into debt it Caused him

to miss work he was about ready to lose his job he was in there was rope so he just decided to end it the unfairness in in the family courts the unfairness and the way child support is so often structured it's commonplace and it's everywhere and the more you start to become conscious of it the more you realize that it's there [Music] I started to research some fathers rights issues And came across some harrowing stories like this man in South Carolina who found out his only daughter was adopted Away by the mother without his knowledge

or consent his daughter was with an adoptive family in California so he began his fight to get his daughter back adoption is for children without families not children with a willing and capable family and this man in Colorado who lost his daughter when the mother left the state to give birth in Utah Where he wouldn't have legal rights to his child he fought for four years in court and finally won visitation rights only visitation I can't explain the emotion the happiness there's this hard fight and this what this means to me and then there's this

heartbreaking story the 20 year old father never left her side until he was forced to give her to Adoptive parents this week after Kaylee's mother decided to put her up for adoption in order to keep Kaylee Colby needed to file paternity action and affidavit and a commencement notice with Utah's Vital Records a day before the mother signed the adoption papers relinquishing her rights but in Colby's case the mother only gave him a few hours notice of what she was going to do men in the men and the many fathers they're upset Because they're not allowed

to be fathers okay pulls his head out blows his brains out as a family court and people don't think there's something wrong with that we just opened the doors tomorrow for business as usual and that's okay foreign I've always thought of feminism as being the fight for gender equality and yet I've never heard about father's rights and the injustices going on in Family Court why is this I decided to ask gender studies Professor Michael Messner well I'll just say I I don't think it's I I don't think that a lot of their assumptions are correct

to start with there's no doubt that there have been some men who get just screwed by Court decisions and custody cases but I think When you look at the broader patterns um you know it's still the case that in intact heterosexual families with with kids women are still doing the vast majority of the housework and child care and and a lot of there's a lot of sort of Father absence lack of participation by fathers some of whom I think than after divorce happens end up uh suddenly wanting equality you know as fathers when they haven't

really been Participating equally as fathers before so to me it always kind of swings back to the feminist perspective of how we need to push for full equality across the board including before divorces um and uh if we have that then we might expect more symmetry after divorce is happening laughs the more I researched fathers rights the more I realized how deep this Rabbit Hole goes Not only in the amount of issues but also in the vast array of perspectives on these issues I decided to create a flow chart of what I thought father's options

might be following a surprise pregnancy I then put a green line for the paths that I thought would be good turnouts for the father and I put red lines for the paths that seem to not be good for the father then I created a flow chart for women's Options and did the same with green and red lines and as I stepped back I saw all the red lines for the women's options if she does not want the child but something dawned on me of every path the biological father could go down he's at the mercy

of the woman's Soul discretion although women have very difficult Choices to make she at least has the choice but for biological fathers they have no say over their parental destiny [Music] [Music] this is my friend Dara she's eight months pregnant with her first child and she's a lifelong feminist it seems for memorized from what I've read that women seem to have more Reproductive Rights than men do I don't know what to say like we carry children they're never going to carry children it's just a different thing so I guess as much as possible take the

steps to prevent yourself being in that situation it's just like I don't know what to say there's no there's nothing left like a woman you know has been women have been blamed for and and still are for you know unwanted pregnancies choosing To have an abortion not choosing to have an abortion choosing to put their child up for adoption when you know the the burden lies on a single mother if the man leaves There's real you know societally she's she's lambasted so there's a lot of things that women deal with in that regard that men

don't actually deal with so I can have compassion for their situation but I don't know that it's going to change in the way they want it to because it's Biology you know so if you're going to be having sex uh that could result in pregnancy and you haven't had this conversation with the woman that you're having sex with you better have it better have it fast that's when the man has the ability to make decisions uh either not to engage in sex or to use uh condoms and to use other forms of contraception so that's

where his role comes in once he's impregnated her she's the one now faced With continuing a pregnancy faced with the health risks that accompany pregnancy so his rights have to be exercised early but once she's pregnant all decisions must be hers because ultimately she is the most impacted there's just no question and she ultimately has the responsibility for that child [Music] Married he promised me we would have two kids and now he doesn't want anymore my friends think I should trick him and stop taking my birth control men have never been in control of our

bodies we're the ones in control clap if you think that she should trick him my people up next every step so it sounds like men's Reproductive Rights are limited to the choice of whether or not to have sex and The choice of whether or not to use protection but what if he's tricked into fatherhood or what if he's not even the father what does paternity fraud look like it's ugly ordinary ugly and we have to distinguish between paternity fraud and wrongful paternity it's the difference wrongful Pretoria can be innocent okay we went to a party

I had sex with Six guys I think it was when I was hanging out the window I got pregnant but I wasn't sure but you know if anybody knows that guy's name would you please have him call me and then she names one of the other guys and he didn't have sex with her it wasn't malicious it wasn't intentional she wasn't trying to harm anybody she was just trying to figure out who it was wrong wrongful paternity More often unless facetiously okay I'm married I had an affair obviously here there's all sorts of problems because

there are more victims than the person who's named as Daryl dad who may be the wrong one there's everybody involved in the family like a situation in Texas where the family had five little towhead kids all guys all little blondeos and all of a sudden one day one little Blondo kids gets in trouble has to go to The hospital they can't get a hold of mom they get a hold of Dad Dad dresses to the hospital needs to give blood whoops can't do it wrong blood what all the kids look alike turns out it was

the guy down the street you've heard of this place no it's real case so what happens to this family can you fathom what happens to this family now you think the kids feel when they Find out Daryl dad isn't Daryl dad and it's the guy down the street I think Dad feels that these five little boys that he still loves dearly when he finds out they're not his bio children but he can't tear away because he loves him he's devoted himself to these how do you think it feels I mean it's horrific horrific that's not

wrongful that's deliberate So that's paternity fraud that's paternity fraud she knew who the father was and lied about it Paul was right when he said trying to understand the men's Rights Movement is like trying to understand a snow drift one snowflake at a time there are unique fathers rights issues that vary between unmarried married and divorced dads but there are also men's rights issues for non-biological fathers Like this man who is facing jail time for failure to pay child support for a child that DNA tests prove isn't his Carnell Alexander still owes more than thirty

thousand dollars to the state for a child that's not his because the mom wrote his name down because she needed to name someone in order to get welfare benefits I had to pull him down as the father that was done working against the system I'm almost homeless I'm almost in jail I'm out of work my money is being Threatened and be taken he says the law needs to be changed so when this happens as it often does other men don't become dad by default oh a lot of times people wonder about MRIs why are you

guys so angry am I sure that is why aren't you how can anybody look at this and not be angered by it and the only answer to that I've ever been able to come up with is that people aren't angry because they don't See men as human beings [Music] I continued traveling North America meeting mras from all walks of life hearing their personal Stories the red pill moments I met a young man who was sexually abused when he was 16 years old while living at a residential home for people with developmental disabilities she's the only

woman I've done anything ever with right because it just messed me up So much she continues working there he hit me in the face she actually hit me throughout the house chasing me throughout the house when I reported my domestic assault to the police officers I did not at all bring up the fact that I was sexually assaulted because if he wasn't going to believe that I was a victim of domestic violence there was no way he was going to believe that I was going to be a Victim of sexual assault I met the honey

badgers women who are men's rights advocates [Music] and then there was a 15 year old boy it was a 35 year old woman and then later on she came out of jail and she was able to collect child support from this boy that she raped after getting out of jail so there's there's lack of fairness for men in the court systems when police officers would Show up to domestic violence case it was often men were just taken away without asking what even happened it's just presumed that men are the criminals I was assaulted several times

you know and and I never got any help I went to the police still bleeding a couple of times and one police officer said I'll never forget this he said if she starts hitting you again you better get out of there fast because if she just breaks her fingernail trying to hit you We'll arrest you I mean I can't tell you at this point how many guys I've talked to who are like yeah you know she stabbed me and they put me in jail not only are there endless studies that show women are just as

violent as men are when I would talk about it invariably men would start coming out of the woodwork with stories stories they were afraid to tell stories that they got laughed at for stories that they got blamed for It's it's hideous this is not flattering to men to talk about men's vulnerabilities no to talk about the ways that they are not strong and that they they are well weak and to be honest about it's not flattering a solution for both genders is that we need to be able to recognize how men are vulnerable and we

need to be able to recognize how women are actors because we have a huge blind spot especially when women do bad things [Music] my best friend that I grew up with since kindergarten was being physically abused by his wife who he had been married to for 20 years actual break glass and throw it out and punch him I've seen it just happen spontaneously and it was frequent and he's bigger than her but he didn't want to hit her and he didn't want the children they had three minor children he didn't want them Seeing this at

all so he would usually just go outside because there would be glass breaking or things being smashed or yelling and he knew that the neighbors might think it's him so he would go outside so the neighbors could see what's happening eventually I said look you're gonna need you need professional help and so does she and maybe the kids do too so I called a bunch of domestic violence shelters I I just looked around online And I called but every place that I called said we don't help men we don't help male men at all and

I started becoming curious about why that was because I learned that these were state-funded shelters and I know that men pay at least half of the taxes that fund these shelters if they stay funded and I just was wondering why so basically there was no place to take him and it just continued the problem just Kept going in the United States there are over 2 000 domestic violence shelters all of them serve female victims and nearly all of them turn away male victims in fact as of 2016 there's only a single domestic violence shelter for

men my initial reaction was that there needed to be thousands more women shelters because that many more women are being battered But as it turns out one in three women and one in four men will be victims of physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime sure there's a slight majority of female victims but how can that excuse denying men help couldn't this be considered gender discrimination think of it this way roughly 78 percent of all suicides are men if Suicide Prevention Services only Served men wouldn't we see the gender discrimination immediately if there

are over 2 000 women shelters that turn away men and only one shelter for men obviously the resources don't match the need in the men's Rights Movement well from the very beginning when I first opened the Refuge which was in 1971 in Chiswick in London almost as Soon as I took the women in I got a house for men a voice for men's editor-at-large Aaron pizzi founded the first ever women's shelter in 1971. and she is widely revered in the men's rights community because you see what I knew from the beginning most domestic violence consensual

both are involved sometimes one is the perpetrated the other place the victim then it crosses over It's not it's not as though it's just all men or all women it's both and occasion the innocent victims very innocent children grow up to battle and I now know that if a woman comes in with a history of violence in her own childhood the chances are she will be probably violent to her children and she will want to live on this knife edge of Crisis and danger I haven't been allowed to speak that's The difficulty why is that

because I'm completely barred from all conferences like I'm not allowed to walk up the step of my own Refuge I bought the bloody building but no does this feminist the woman who runs it is a very heavy firm and she won't happen to do with me what did you say that made them hate you that women could be equally Advanced as men that was from the beginning Aaron pezzi says that 62 of the first 100 women to enter her Refuge were just As violent as the men they left and violent towards their children [Music] isn't

it I'm violent um and you know I could quite easily hit somebody you know very very easily and I've had an argument but the feminists I've met have an entirely different take on domestic violence on the whole issue of domestic violence That's just another word really it's a clean up word about wife beating because that's really what it is or Dating Violence and it's not girls that are beating up on boys it's boys that are beating up on girls and using violence to intimidate and to control and we have very few what's called domestic violence

shelters which are places that women can leave their home with their children and get a new start get out of the violence but they're not nearly enough of them we Need more funding and more resources because it it is a tremendous disadvantage for women and girls foreign the CDC released a report revealing that over 5.4 million men and 4.7 million women had been victims of intimate partner physical violence within the previous 12 months but then why does the media paint domestic violence as a women's issue the World Health Organization says one In three women are

abused by their partner one in three American women experiences domestic violence or stalking at some point in her life and when it was addressed as a men's issue the speaker's point was that it's a men's issue because men are the problem I'm going to share with you a paradigm shifting perspective on the issues of gender violence I don't see these as women's issues that some good men help out with in fact I'm going to argue that These are men's issues why is domestic violence still a big problem in the United States and all over the

world what's going on why do so many men abuse physically emotionally and other verbally in other ways the women and girls and the men and boys that they claim to love what's going on with men let's Grant every single empirical case as being true yes it is true let's just say I mean it is not true but let's just assume that that there is gender Symmetry in gen in domestic violence that women hit Menace men as much as men hit women if if I were to say that I would say and therefore we need boatloads

more funding for domestic violence to develop shelters and adequate interventions because there's this hidden epidemic of men who are being beaten up by women or I could say as the men's Rights Movement therefore we shouldn't have these shelters and we shouldn't fund Them because the women are all lying well it seems to me that if you really believe in gender symmetry it's not that you want to support you're not questioning the number of women you're just saying the number of men in stock you would want to join with women who are anti-violence to say we

have a real problem here you know it's not even a gender problem it's a problem of women hitting men and many women we've got to get boatloads more funding let's work Together that seems The Logical response to this but instead they're saying it's like a zero-sum game if if we fund the women then we're going to ignore the matter well we're not ignore we're not going to ignore the women because we all agree that the levels are as high as we say but it does sound like a zero-sum game when only women are receiving services

in domestic violence situations and of all the men's rights activists I've met none of them question the number of female victims but they are calling attention to the high number of male victims that are being dismissed so why aren't men's rights activists and feminists working together Michael Kimmel briefly said something that made me wonder he said it would no longer be a gender problem if both men and women were equally victims of domestic violence is that why the number of male victims Are never addressed to me it's been fraud for all these years why is

it we have this enormously colorful feminist movement and virtually nothing for men originally it was capitalism was the big enemy in the 60s and 70s and it was the radical feminists in America they moved the goal posts they said no it's no longer capitalism to the enemy the enemy is patriarchy Oh man [Music] and that's how the women's movement began and it was enormously successful the new mood in in the refuges was going to be that no men could work in refugees and caught today they can't sit on the boards and boys over nine or

possibly 12 can't go into refuges or you call them shelters their mothers have to make other arrangements for them which I find shocking And it ring fenced money I think that that particular time when the feminist movement were desperate for funding because they'd run out of of publicity and they were desperate for funding and they needed a just cause and unfortunately it fell into their laps it's an enormous industry I mean violence against women they get something like was a billion and over a year And an awful lot of that goes on really supposedly rehabilitating

men but essentially punishing them with something that's called the Duluth model Duluth power and control will you guys know about that no I'll give you a copy you know in 1977 I think a bunch of crazy women up in Duluth Minnesota figured out they had the solution to domestic violence and it was all about patriarchy and all about men And it's a little power and control oil because men are all about power and control of course not you ladies you guys you don't control anything you have no power you're just sweet innocent little things okay

so in this parallel control wheel is divided up in all these things you know about who does this and who does that blah blah blah of course it's all men [Music] The entire domestic violence industry was founded on that I think it's still 37 or 32 states in the United States that by law they have to use the Duluth model for better Innovation programs and it's all shame blaming yield driven if you're a man and you walk in you must admit you did it up front or you're in denial there's no debate there's no discussion

there's no possibility that you could be falsely accused the criminal justice system could have made A mistake none whatsoever you are in a state denial and you will complete that quarter so you're going to go to jail you will be re-engineered [Music] frightening yes that's right I think it's terrifying absolutely terrifying all I had to die a simple choice I could just say yes you're right men are the enemy No problem but I couldn't I absolutely couldn't just getting overwhelmed because I don't know where I'm headed um with what I believe and what is right

and what is wrong and who is wrong and who is right and the truth is somewhere in the middle and that's why I'm feeling frustrated because I don't know where the truth is and I don't know when I decided to make a film on the men's Rights Movement I never anticipated questioning my feminist views but the more MREs I met the more I felt compelled to remind myself why I was a feminist I signed up for a women's group hair Workshop only 4 00 companies are led by women women only hold about 14 of corporate

executive positions and less than 20 percent of our governmental Physicians I made video diaries complaining about how I had to change what I wore to walk alone at night how much time it took me to get ready for work all the housekeeping that was on my shoulders in comparison to other gender issues these videos seem trivial but I Made them nonetheless I attended women's rights rallies no to violence that's what we are here for to say no more to violence in any forms especially against women and girls [Applause] a repeated women's issues in my head

like a broken record female genital mutilation sex trafficking Reproductive Rights maternity leave and social media helped remind me of Women's issues we have fought for everybody else's equal rights it's our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America we are struggling for a uniting word but the good news is that we have a uniting movement it is called he for she [Applause] whenever I hear the emra's point of view About how difficult it is for them I immediately go to well what about us

what what is it like for us and then I get on the defensive and want to want to make sure that women's struggles are also heard and I don't know if that's necessary because the MREs are saying that the feminist perspective is the mainstream perspective but even when I hear their Issues I still want to speak up for the women because I feel like I don't know why I feel like talking about One gender's issues now neglects the other and I guess that's what MREs have been dealing with is so he's hearing about women's issues

and feeling like their issues are neglected but whenever I hear them talk about men's issues I feel like I need to stand up for women and say this is what we're dealing with an equal opposite I met with men's rights activist Karen Strawn late one night in a noisy bar she became well known for her YouTube videos talking about male disposability and other men's rights issues and she's a honey badger part of what I do and what I researched and what I think about is the the reasons psychologically why feminism seems to be such a

comfortable warm blanket emotionally for so many people men and women alike And it it's so comfortable that it will make them not see things that are right in front of their face look at Boko Haram hundreds of young girls fast asleep in their beds are awakened by the sound of gunfire armed attackers have stormed their boarding school and set fire to dozens of buildings nearly 300 of them are dragged from their dorm loaded onto trucks and carried away deep into the forest from New York to London rallied Yesterday demanding that the terrorist group Boko Haram

Bring Back Our Girls it just gets to the core you this this unconscionable Act was committed by a terrorist group determined to keep these girls from getting an education and what happened in Nigeria was not an isolated incident it is a story we see every day as girls around the world risk their lives to pursue their ambitions right that's being spawned as a Fundamentalist Islamic group that is so determined to be misogynistic and oppressed girls that they want to deny girls in education but they are not against girls being educated they're against anybody getting a

western secular or Christian education the initial attacks and there were several of them there was one there were over a hundred men killed and one woman killed and the victims were described as people Right or villagers and in the previous attacks on the schools they actually let the girls go they separated out the boys and girls and they let the girls go and they told them go home get married renounce your sins and live a righteous life under Allah right and then they burn the boys alive there was literally no outrage right it Was barely

reported on me it was one of those things there was no opinion pieces on it no nothing right until the girls were kidnapped and look at this way because we played right into their hands because they want attention right and they weren't getting any attention from the Western media when they were just slaughtering the boys right they want attention and what do they do they kidnap girls and sell them into marriage or slavery right and Everybody the U.N Michelle Obama Barack Obama the UK government the Canadian Federal Minister of Defense right they're all promising Aid

and help and equipment and Personnel to help find these girls and bring them back because this is such an outrage and oh my goodness something needs to be done well maybe if like last year maybe if we did something then all of these girls will be safe in their dorms right now But we didn't and the reason why they kidnapped those girls is because we didn't do anything we didn't pay attention and they want attention right and we know that attacking girls or women is going to get the potential what are we gonna do start

a campaign bring back our boys oh wait they're dead never mind right the men the the people in Boko Haram they're chivalrous If those girls were boys they wouldn't be getting education they'd be dead they wouldn't be sold in slavery they'd be dead Boko Haram has been fighting for Islamic rule in Nigeria since 2002 its members have killed hundreds of people [Music] at least 69 dead although some reports put the number at about 150 and scores more injured For that day when we should lay down lay down finally brother after a while the battle will

be over for that day when we shall lay down [Music] and start it wrong no more finally brother after a while the battle will be over for that day when we should lay down our bird and study well no more Finally brother after a while the battle will be over for that day when we should lay down and start it while you'll move finally driving after a while thank you the battle will be over [Music] study Wild one of the most important things the men's movement is doing is being able to say men need compassion

and Men deserve compassion And to have that happen I'm not expecting it in my lifetime it's an ocean of pain out there this stuff we're talking about has been going on for so long and nobody listens nobody cares it's one thing when you looked at what happens to women and you feel normal healthy outrage about it and that should happen but when you can look at what's Happening in our courts to men in our medical establishment to men in our schools to men and yet we remain so cerebral about all of it yes well that

is certainly something to consider if it were happening to any other group we would be having protests from coast to coast and the fact is that it is happening to men every day right in front of our eyes and people will get angry at you if you try to talk about it That's How Deep The Practice response But there have been protests not with the intention of Shining Light on men's issues but rather with the goal of silencing any discussion of men's issues like at Ottawa University when Professor Janice fiamango attempted to give a lecture

that questioned the feminist narrative so you think this is a victory yeah why are you so frightened of hearing an opinion different from your Own then there was the first International Conference on men's issues in Michigan where even Ms magazine urged its readers to protest the conference in hopes of shutting it down [Music] but perhaps the most well-known protest of a Pro men's rights event happened in April 2013 at the University of Toronto when the Canadian Association for equality hosted a discussion titled from Misogyny and Miss Andrea to intersexual dialogue [Applause] everybody [Applause] [Music] a

feminist group protesting the event illegally pulled the fire alarm and successfully shut down the event [Music] [Music] once outside the lecture hall feminist Protesters and men's rights activists got to speak face to face do not want you to lose custody of your children the assumption that women are naturally better caregivers is part of patriarchy feminists do not like commercials in which bumbling dads mess up the laundry and confident wives have to bustle in and fix it the assumption that women is a list of the things that we're working towards now if you would shut The

[ __ ] up for the 50th billion times these are things that we're extremely wrong and these are things that you've actually all got skewed [ __ ] views on you think that feminists are trying to take away your [ __ ] rights but it as a matter of fact what we're trying to do is we're actually trying to work on the same things that you're working on but accept the fact that you're so too big you're just too busy hating women now we're trying to work on those same Situations are you conflating feminism which

is an ideology with women which is a demographic of societies okay Mr really for example okay you're still a hate an ideology yes okay I hate a lot of other Israel so you admit though racism [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] you hate sexism but you're an MRA okay no point take do not want you to have to make alimony payments alimony is set up to combat the Fact that women have been historically expected to prioritize domestic duties over professional goals thus minimizing their earning potential if their traditional marriages end the Assumption

I'm reading [ __ ] face for some of the hunting cameras I'm trying to [ __ ] I'm letting everybody else hear it okay it's not just for you Mr entitled the assumption that wives should why do you think the men's Rights Movement is at odds with feminism what has created that Clash and that war between each other well one feminism has spent the last 50 years demonizing man which is sort of one of the problems feminist Scholars have characterized men as inherently violent inherently bad inherently predatory inherently oppressive they have postulated that masculinity is

a disease feminists aren't the only problem they didn't the problems didn't start with feminism so when I start Criticizing feminism I want you to know you're just part of the problem they're just part of the problem you calling men oppressors and women oppressed demonizes men and I believe diminishes women at the same time it's a way of telling men to shut up it's a way of telling men that their experiences don't matter you tell a man he's privileged therefore anything he's gone through or anything he has to say doesn't matter his lived experiences Don't matter

because he's privileged so how old were you when you started calling yourself a feminist or how many years ago oh it's probably about three years ago I guess you can say I'm relatively new yeah but I'm pretty loud so silence only helps the impress her not be oppressed a lot of MREs say that feminism doesn't fight for the rights of men What would you say to that Crimea River really because feminism is a movement about the discrepancies when it comes to women's equality because we're not up we're still not there yet you know so don't

start with that whole oh but you don't think about the men's issue well then you know what start your own goddamn movement which they have but maybe make it a little more about legitimate issues like custody and alimony and things that You think are unequal which all stem from patriarchy not from oh my God feminists are trying to take away our kids no [ __ ] that's not what we're trying to do we're not trying to do that I mean if they look at the root causes of why for example you know women get custody

more often than men do women are supposed to be the mothers they're supposed to be the Natural Born Caregivers so obviously duh you has a vagina so obviously you're going to be able to take care of the kitties that's that's really what it is it all stems from sexism against women it's just the oppression dialectic needs to go it's so hard to convince people to look at Men's rights activism and support it without first allowing them to at least escape the Stranglehold feminism has on their minds I do believe It is Dogma it's zealotry there

are good people in a feminist movement um there are not good people and the radical feminist movement that system is based on hate and hand is in my opinion hates most destructive force in the world call us man haters [Music] like they're so quick to say that when We're all we're doing is talking about like patriarchal societies and structures that we want to dismantle um nothing against men in particular but just saying hey this is a system that we live in and this puts men above women and it's not necessarily their fault but hey recognize

what's happening here and let's work together to dismantle it the omnipotent ever-present patriarchy the invisible force that directs all of Our lives right and causes all oppression and all suffering okay our devil and the beautiful wonderful Force for justice feminism the way it's the way it sounds like religion it sounds like religion a movement that's that's and isn't blaming of men they name the force for evil after men and the Forester Justice after women and This being a movement very very very concerned about the implications of language so concerned that if you call a fire

fighter a fire pen it will discourage little girls from aspiring to Firefighters and sometimes this discouraged grown women from aspiring to firefighters right by calling the environment but we can call the force for all oppression we call that essentially men Right and we can call the Force for good Injustice women and that kind of language that has no implications we're not blaming men we just named everything bad after them they're really angry and they're angry at women they're angry at feminist women they're um but yes men have gotten a crappy deal but it's not the

fault of women or gay people When feminism says that they have no part in any of this I think they're not being honest about it I don't blame feminism for all of it but I think they've had a role in it they've written laws that discriminated against men they fought to protect those laws it particularly in domestic violence areas and for many many years second wave feminism would go through the statutes and change everything that was gender specific to something gender neutral Unless it was something that benefited women like the domestic violence loss they didn't

change those other types of areas like fathers in prison their statutes that specifically give mothers certain benefits that fathers in prison don't have and I challenge that as well legally but we didn't win on that one when I wanted to get a commission on men like the county answer Commission on women the feminist fought that tooth and nail When prop 209 was before the California voters which was to end affirmative action every feminist organization opposed it every time men's rights groups try to pass joint custody legislation feminist groups fight them they fought us on fraternity

fraud the biggest opposition that I have faced has been from the radical feminist that said we don't want truth to be the standard because if we did they wouldn't Oppose automatic DNA testing at Birth and in countries like France they're saying well DNA should mean do not ask because it's now illegal to even get a test and if you get a test without the mother's permission you will be criminally prosecuted in Sweden they tried to create a man tax in India the men's Rights Movement is trying to get the rape laws to include male victims

and the feminist groups apparently are fighting that I'm not saying all feminists are this way but I think the ones who are affecting public policy who have the lobbying power I think they are if you just look at their actions they don't want equality for women they want special privileges for women and girls and even though they know in a lot of areas men do not have equality they are silent the commander of the Marine Corps said that he thinks and I quote all eligible And qualified men and women should register for the draft talking

about Selective Service do you think women should also have to register for Selective Service like men I have to think about whether I think it's necessary to go as far as our Military Officers are recommending the idea of having everybody register uh concerns me a little bit unless we have a better idea of where that's going to come out where I want people to register I want Every young person to register at the age of 18 to be able to vote automatically and I think if thank you what's the motivation people don't ask what's the

motivation do we need a men's race movement no we need common sense no but if there's there's going to be This Woman's movement and this is the movement that's going to do all these things then maybe we need a counterbalance they Call the men's men's rights movement or men's movement and I hate to see there went off like it's a shame I think it's destructive [Music] I'm hearing what the men's rights activists are saying and I'm finding the sources to support what they're saying men are just as likely to be victims of intimate partner physical

violence Men have little to no control over their parental Destiny especially when he's tricked into fatherhood or he's raising a child that he later finds out isn't his the sentencing disparity between men and women is six times larger than the sentencing disparity between blacks and whites so while a black man may be sentenced to 10 percent more prison time for the same crime as a white man A man is sentenced to over 60 percent more prison time than a woman arrested for the same crime boys are falling behind in education they are enrolling at lower

rates and earning less college degrees and while not all MREs agree on the issue of infant male circumcision most MREs do believe it is a human rights violation I spent months learning about infant male circumcision but it only took me Watching a five-minute medical training video to convince me this is a barbaric practice that needs to stop okay so first thing make sure he's well restrained all that was left a partial penis and his tiny testicles Rhodes says Ashton urinates through a hole in his penis she says she can't imagine now what she'll say to

her son when he's old enough to understand what's happened to him how Could you explain it to your child that you don't have a penis or you might never be able to have kids foreign yes men are the majority of workplace deaths and injuries war deaths suicides [Music] they have a shorter life expectancy Warren Farrell makes the argument that prostate cancer and breast cancer Mortality rates are similar but funding disproportionately supports breast cancer research and awareness over prostate cancer red pill is about looking at these issues in an honest way even when it's uncomfortable and

these things are uncomfortable but without the willingness to set aside the programming and to set aside the false beliefs about what power is and what women are and who women are Part of what we do is a pretty serious critique of both sexes it's brutal but critiquing the Sexes is a real valuable thing feminists don't want you to do it though unless you're portraying women as victim and men as perpetrated the red pill is about understanding that men and women like everything else in life it's a mixed bag you've got victims and perpetrators on both

sides of the fence and that's all it's it's real simple It's just not easy and I think I agree with everything you said but there's there's still some kind of unsettling doubt and I don't know where that's coming from I'm recognizing all of these very serious men's rights issues but what I don't understand is how I could be agreeing with men's rights activists is this the same misogynist hate group I Originally discovered online the Southern Property Law Center has classified that group and men's rights groups as hate groups I looked into what I was hearing

from feminists and the mass media about the men's Rights Movement I've read a lot and I've heard a lot that the the men's rights movement has been labeled a hate Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center is that correct that's not quite true Somehow written up on some kind of antennas rights websites as we us haven't listed them as as hate groups and so on and we didn't do [Music] too he brought a piece declaring the month of October to be bash a violent [ __ ] month Jesus I mean literally to grab them by

the hair and smack their face against the wall he wrote I then discovered that Paul elam's Famous bash of violent [ __ ] article was written in response to this article by Jezebel called have you ever beat up a boyfriend because uh we have the article cited a study that revealed 70 of non-reciprocated violence was perpetuated by women the author then went on to say that she conducted an informal survey at the office and the gist of her findings was that many women had physically assaulted their man and it was interpreted as either being funny

Or he was asking for it I couldn't help but see the hypocrisy in a major feminist website making light of abusing men and Mraz stinging back only to have the media paint them as the abusers something else to think about arriving on campus boys will also see the effects of women's studies programs not usually termed gender studies programs make no mistake about it however they they are Still women's studies programs I teach in the gender studies program at Wagner there are about 900 such programs worldwide and about 400 of them are in the states by

comparison to those 900 programs worldwide there is one men's studies program in four years Center for men and masculinities is to be established at a state of New York University the one in Stony Brook it will be headed by Professor Michael Kimmel a sociologist its advisors will include probably among the advisors are our funders as well the actress and fitness expert Jane Fonda glorious Steinem and Eve ensler the author of China after my year of filming men's rights activists and feminists my descent and to the rabbit hole was not slowing down my education on gender

politics was really just beginning I learned about other sectors of the online manosphere like mgtow men going their own way and a forum on Reddit called The Red Pill which is separate from the men's rights community and they do not see eye to eye I'm told an easy way to remember the difference is that while mras want to change the system reddit's the red pill want to take advantage of the system and mgtow want to leave the system There are so many perspectives on gender and I believe they are all worthy of listening to however

the conversation is being silenced for a society to accept anything said on behalf of women's rights and then to shame any dialogue about men's rights and call it hate speech is precisely the problem I don't know where I'm headed but I know what I left behind I no longer call myself a feminist [Music] how about [Music] kicks hang all your Notions up it's never what it is wisdom is asking why there is another side down where the rabbit lives my world will blow your mind just have a look at it [Music] they think about it

[Music] don't gotta change It I'll let you use my eyes see what I'm dealing with people with different stories different categories and reasons why the smartest thing the wise they listen anything [Music] anything all right [Music] [Applause] [Applause] Goodbye baby baby [Music] [Applause] [Music] I like to use [Music] foreign [Music]