[Music] 70 odd years ago Zigman Freud published this uh famous and tremendously profound and influential book called uh civilization and its discontent he said that Civilization is always an exchange a tradeoff as you put it tradeoff you give some uh something of one value in order to get something of the other value and he said he wrote it in 1920s and at that time he said that our problem the their problem of the old generation was that they surrendered too much freedom for the sake of security my deep conviction is that if Freud was giving
this interview of me at the moment uh he would probably repeat that every civilization is an exchange at tro but his diagnosis will be exactly opposite that our troubles come today from the fact that we have surrendered too much of our security for the sake of more freedom that's a dma so my conclusions are twofold one we will never find the perfect solution of the Dilemma between security and freedom there always will be too much of one and too little of the other right and the second that we will never stop looking for such a
golden mean