but I'm talking about President Obama's CIA director he came out and said I see no ties I see no collusion here so when President Obama was a Hillary supporter said that the views Joy Bahar met her match when conservative commentator Tommy Lauren joined the panel and confronted her hypocrisy headon from heated exchanges about President Trump's policies to pointed debates on the truth behind partisan investigations Tomy didn't hold back leaving Joy visibly flustered and struggling to keep up before we dive into this epic Clash make sure to like this video And subscribe for more unfiltered debates
and bold takedowns trust me you won't want to miss what's coming next did you just subscribe awesome let's dive into it I I think part of the issue for me was that his rhetoric during the campaign when he when you say stuff during a campaign like you know you you want to ban all Muslims or you use these this broad terminology then when you go to introduce policy I happen to support this 2.0 as well but when you Institute policy maybe doesn't do that people look and say well what was the intent of this policy
looking back if you said X Y and Z over here why are we not to believe that now this policy is intended to in fact ban Muslims what you said is that not his biggest issue I think that it is I mean for Trump rhetoric is usually the problem and it's usually the basis of the problem but I like to look to policy more than just talk and when we're talking about campaign promises wasn't it President Obama said if you like your health insurance you can keep it I mean some things one thing he said
and they keep bringing it off over and over again Trump says something crazy every day your social media following you have 4.3 million followers on social media each of your videos are are viewed an average of five million times why do you think you've resonated with so many people I think in large part I represent Middle America so you've got the two coasts and those individuals seem to kind of just talk to each other and then you've got all of Middle America right there that's dying to have a voice they don't really feel like they
have one they're not represented you know beyond their communities so I think they watch me and they say well you know she speaks like I do she thinks like I do she seems to maybe get it like I do and I think that's why it's resonated and also I do something very different there's not a whole lot of young conservative women out there and so I I provide that for a lot of young women they don't the conversation began with Tommy addressing the controversy surrounding Trump's rhetoric during his campaign Joy Bahar attempted to Corner her
bringing up claims of Muslim bans and controversial statements however Tommy quickly turned the focus to the facts highlighting how Trump's policies aim to address National Security not religion joy as expected tried to twist The Narrative but Tomy shut her down with a sharp rebuttal pointing out the flaws in labeling policies as religiously motivated without understanding their true intent when asked about her massive social media following Tommy explained her connection with Middle America a voice often overlooked by mainstream media she emphasized that her authenticity grounded in facts and Unapologetic commentary resonates with millions of Americans who
feel ignored by the elites on both coasts this Insight clearly irked the hosts who seemed unable to grasp why tomy's message struck such a chord with everyday Americans president Trump's travel ban 2.0 because this is the second one was blocked earlier this week um six federal judges now have said that it's unconstitutional but you support his plan are all those judges is wrong I believe so I don't believe it's unconstitutional they're going with The Establishment Clause but I think folks fail to also remember that The Establishment Clause in the Constitution doesn't cover non-citizens A and
B he is under his and I think you could maybe attest to this as well it is under his jurisdiction to be able to do this he is able but didn't he shoot himself in the foot when he said a Muslim ban come on but this isn't a Muslim ban this this is well no unless all the Muslims in the world have been able to pack themselves into six countries is not a Muslim ban for a Muslim ban India would be included it's a high Muslim population so to me this isn't a Muslim B does
it bother you that he leaves out like Saudi Arabia where he has a business I think I definitely think Saudi Arabia should be included I do I agree with you there Joy that's maybe one of the one points we can have agreement on the issue for me was that his rhetoric during the campaign when he when you say stuff during a campaign like you know you you want to ban all Muslims or you use these this broad terminology then when you go to introduce policy I happen to support this 2.0 as well but when you
Institute policy that maybe doesn't do that people look and say well what was the intent of this policy looking back if you said X Y and Z over here why are we not to believe that now this policy is intended to in fact ban Muslims what you said is that not his biggest issue I think that it is I mean for Trump rhetoric is usually the problem and it's usually the basis of the problem but I like to look to policy more than just talk and when we're talking about campaign promises wasn't it President Obama
said if you like your health insurance you can keep it I mean some things one thing he said and they keep bringing it and over Trump says something crazy every day who supported investigations into Hillary's emails into Benghazi into the IRS targeting conservative groups I'm sure you were on board with those as well but now you have an investigation of the Trump campaign and his potential ties to Russia I also think that that's a valid investigation given that we know that his campaign had contact with Russian officials last year that was at the same time
that Russia we know now was in fact trying to interrupt our Democratic process do you support this investigation as well into Trump's potential ties to Russia I support an investigation but I I support the investigation into wiretapping claims as well I think if you're going to investigate one you need to investigate the other I think that that's only fair and I also think it's important to point out that Obama President Obama's Obama President Obama about Trump but I'm talking about President Obama's CIA director he came out and said I see no ties I see no
collusion here so when President Obama who was a Hillary supporter Republicans said that too right well when he's when when Obama's acting CIA director comes out and says I see no evidence that there's ties no evidence of wiretapping either so we should investigate both to the fullest the conversation escalated when the topic of President Trump's travel ban took Center Stage a policy that had already sparked Nationwide protests and polarized opinions Joy Bahar and the panel eagerly pounced on the opportunity to frame the ban as discriminatory insisting it was nothing more than a veiled attack on
Muslim majority countries but Tommy Lauren armed with facts and sharp reasoning was more than ready to counter their narrative Tomy wasted no time breaking down the intent of the travel ban she clarified that the policy wasn't based on religion but on National Security risks as outlined by the Department of Homeland Security the countries targeted like Iran Libya and Syria were flagged due to their history of terrorism and lack of proper vetting procedures not their religious demographics Joy wasn't ready to back down she pressed Tomy on the exclusion of Saudi Arabia implying that Trump's business interests
had influenced the decision it was a calculated jab meant to undermine The policy's credibility but here's where Tommy surprised everyone instead of deflecting she agreed you're right Saudi Arabia should have been on that list her cander caught the panel offg guard demonstrating her ability to critique policies even those she supports when she sees room for improve Improvement this moment highlighted a critical difference in the discussion while the panel was focused on attacking Trump personally Tomy remained centered on the broader issue of National Security she acknowledged the imperfections in the travel ban but reminded viewers of
its ultimate goal protecting Americans from potential threats the president's job she stated is to prioritize the safety of our citizens and this policy is a step in that direction by the end of the segment it was clear Tommy had held her ground despite the panel's attempts to twist The Narrative she remained steadfast in her defense of the travel ban while still acknowledging its areas for improvement it was a master class in navigating a hostile debate leaving viewers with plenty to think about the debate then shifted to investigations into Trump's ties to Russia and alleged wiretapping
claims Tommy made a bold yet Fair statement both matters should be investigated thoroughly if we want true accountability she pointed out that even President Obama's CIA director found no evidence of collusion leaving the panel scrambling for counterarguments this exchange showcased why Tommy Lauren has captivated so many Americans her ability to stay calm present facts and expose bias is unmatched meanwhile Joy bahar's attempts to deflect and twist the conversation only highlighted her own double standards what do you think did Tommy Lauren deliver a masterclass in debate or do you agree with the views panel let us
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