Dr. Umar Johnson (Full Interview)

Dr Umar Johnson welcome to Vlad TV thank you glad to be here absolutely you know big fan of your work saw you on The Breakfast Club a few times appreciate it appreciate it yeah we're real close to charlott manne charlot mne's been on the show with us for many many years okay okay so let's talk about your background where did you grow up exactly North Philadelphia North Central Philadelphia born and raised still live there okay And what was the environment like when you were growing up uh we grew up humble I wouldn't say poor because

I think poverty is more of the spirit than it is of the economic realities in which a person lives you know my mother my father they did the best they can to raise us they did a good job love them both they still here on the earth breathing air with me uh I love North Philadelphia it's home it's where I come from so my roots are still there I still Hang out there many of my friends are still there now what was it growing up in that environment that started to really of mold the kind

of life that you went on to live I would say that began to take place when I was in fourth and fifth grade I attended a elementary school George G meet Elementary named after one of America's Civil War generals we had a mandatory black history class fourth and fifth grade which was taught by Miss Vivien green or Lillian green Miss green who I incidentally ran into a couple years ago and I think it was the black history class CL that really gave me a sense of purpose a sense of direction a sense of motivation subsequent

to that I went to my first family reunion with my father in Baltimore Maryland I believe I was in the sixth grade and we were walking in the backyard of a church and there was plenty of Frederick Douglas memorabilia there and I asked my father why is there So much Fredrick Douglas memorabilia here and he said because you are related to him and it was at that family Union the belly family that's when I learned I was related to Frederick Douglas so I think the fourth and fifth grade black history class with the sixth grade

Encounter of realizing I was related to arguably the greatest black leader in American history I think that kind of set me on my purpose and it was solidified after I graduated from Millersville University became a school psychologist back in the year 2000 and found how special education and ADHD were being used as weap of mass destruction against African-American boys and so the purpose found is rooting in advocating for our children within the Mis education machine now now you got your doctorate yes sir from the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine July of 2012 American Psychological Association

Approved program I would add a disclaimer to that um as you probably seen in the world of social media some of their brothers and sisters in my community have uh created or falsify claims that I did not have a doctorate part of that stems from the fact that I never advertised the schools that I graduated from obviously when I speak at universities they have to vet my background so I have to provide that information to them the reason I never Advertise the universities is I know that many of them would take issue with what I

stand for what I'm working towards and my opinions on things so if I ran around saying I went to peom if I ran around saying I attended Millersville University if I ran around saying I have a master's in educational leadership from Lehi University in bethle Pennsylvania some people might draw the erroneous conclusion that they support my work and so out of respect For those institutions I don't go around with a banner with the names on it because I feel that who I am and my reputation and background is sufficient to support the premises that I

stand on now how many years did you end up go to school 5 years of undergrad Millersville University uh double majored psychology and political science graduated came back to Philadelphia started a master's program in Clinical Psychology at haniman University it was two expensive So I decided to go back to Millersville I was black Union president I was a student leader there um and so I felt if I went back to Millersville I could get the education paid for and so I went back and I enrolled in the school psychology program and I was actually motivated

partly to do that by the director of hanan's program who told me that if you're going to go back to Millersville get your school psychology CCH because even after you get your Doctorate you cannot test for special education without a school psychology CT so that was from January of 98 I graduated two days before my 25th birthday in 2000 and then I completed my one-year internship with the school district of Philadelphia 2001 subsequent to that I was a school psychologist with the school district of Philadelphia five or six years after which I resign became a

assistant principal at a Philadelphia Charter school and then went into Private practice as a school psychologist which I've been doing since then I mean w with my audience which is the hip-hop Community yes sir education is not always you know celebrated like when you look at all the biggest rappers today MH like you can name very few that actually finished College yes sir yeah you know like the puffies did a year or two I think J.Cole I'm not sure if jco attended College oh oh he graduated I don't think I'm not sure if he completed

But I know he attended see that's what I'm talking about like in terms of completing College hip hop doesn't doesn't celebrate that you know as much as like someone's street cred or you know stuff like that or sometimes even someone's jail time now what was it for you why was it important for you to get an education for me I was the first uh of my mother's children um to get an opportunity to go to college also being a student of black history Understanding that ancestral struggle for an education it meant a lot to me

it meant a lot to me some of my friends they transferred out of Millersville University I don't know if they completed or not some of them did I decided to stay a lot of us didn't like it at Millersville predominantly white Amish context a lot of racism not much there in terms of a black cultural affirmation but I said I'm here I'mma make the best of it and I'mma finish and I think that it was by Divine Design that my undergraduate institution happen to have had the school psychology program because had not Millersville had the

school psychology program I wouldn't be a school psychologist today I would have been a pure clinician now my doctorate is in clinical but it's is my school psychology certification through which I do most of my work and as you know for which my name has been built so I don't think that was a coincidence I Think we have to understand the context in which African-American men are reared educated and social ized in America education itself is not valued in the African-American Community nor is education of African-American males valued by the larger political construct when you

look at our community black males are rewarded only for being athletes and entertainers they are not rewarded for being academically excellent the political structure does Not reward them the religious structure does not reward them the economic structure does not reward them I'm also a former School principal and even in the schools Athletics is given more respect than academic Excellence a minely gifted child who's at the 99th percentile academically he may be one of the brightest students in the state or Nation will not get as much attention as an underachieving African-American male Athlete who may be

failing three or four subjects in school but because he has a great jump shot or he can catch a football he gets celebrated more than the academic achiever so I think we as the African-American Community have to look at that but we also have to realize that America has a history of undervaluing the intellectual achievements of African-American people yeah know absolutely now you're actually trying to own your own school or buy Your own school like explain that to me the uh Frederick Douglas and Marcus Garvey Academy um is a school that I conceived of a

very long time ago but began actually put teeth into the creation of that school a couple of years ago uh we're interested in acquiring the St Paul's College Lawrenceville Virginia it's an HBCU closed down about three years ago and has just been sitting there unoccupied for three years there's a $2 million Price tag on that property we've raised $700,000 over the past year and a half to try to acquire that property however although St Paul's are still very much an interest of mine I'm begin to change my sites and start look at other schools because

having sat for 3 years obviously the quality of the upkeep is a concern I had someone go and uh do an inspection on the school a realtor who told me I would need to put at least a million dollars into the property after I Purchase it so it's not looking as bright as an option as it used to still want it if they called me today and said listen bring us that 700,000 and we work with you I'm on my way make no mistake about it but because they're not offering to work with me I

have to start exploring other op opportunities such as starting with a regular Community School 3 to 500 students and then evolving into the residential Academy that I want but my concept is residential Academy I Attended a residential Academy Scotland school for veterans children in Chambersburg Pennsylvania which is now closed so I understand the benefit of being able to control the child's entire environment well that's interesting you actually want to buy and control your own school you don't see too many people that actually aspire to that no many of us have fell for what I would

call the charter school hustle or the charter school trap uh charter schools have Actually been on the rise concomitant as we've seen a deine in African-American Independent Schools when Charter Schools were created in 19 1990 they were created so that white folk could take public money and educate white children in a school that legally could not be called private but could pretty much operate as if it was private so the charter school was a compromise how do I defund public education without funding private education since we have a Separation of church and state clause in

public education so the charter school was that compromise once African-Americans started getting involved and of course Philadelphia uh I live where we have the largest amount of charter schools in the country Philadelphia and some of the oldest ones we also see a backlash against Charter Schools where they're shutting them down and I always was not a big proponent of charter schools because I understood That if the state controls it and the state owns It ultimately at the end of the day if they want to put you out of business they can and that's exactly what

they've been doing we've seen more africanamerican char schools across the country be shut down between 2014 and 2015 than we've seen at any other period since Charter Schools were created and there's normally three justifications they use to shut the doors on Charter Schools One Financial mismanagement There's $50 in a $2 million budget unaccounted for and since we can't find the $50 we're taking your Charter second you don't have enough certified public school teachers and so Charter Schools when they first started did not not require that all teachers were certified now many states are requiring 100%

teacher certification what is that doing to the African-American male teacher population it's shrinking it so charter schools that once had 50 black male Teachers may only have one or two charter schools that have an African Foundation may now have predominantly white teachers teaching because they can't find enough African-American teachers certified and the third and the biggest reason for what they use to justify shutting down black Charters is low test scores your children are below basic you don't have enough of them who are proficient so we're going to put you into corrective action ayp two years

Test scores don't go up we shut the door but the truth is they're not shutting the door because of test scores they're not shutting the doors because of money and they're not shutting the doors because of teacher CTS they're shutting the doors because many of these African-American charter schools are in the middle of districts that have been targeted for gentrification we need these black children out the way because this is supposed to be a strip mall this Is supposed to be a new corporate building they have to go so the powers that be work with

the political structure and work with the school district to manipulate a lot of African-American charter schools out of existence in Philadelphia three black charter schools have been shut down this past year alone now I've seen some of the some of the talks that you've had about the school that you're starting now you want The school to be strict ly African in terms of overall its focus yes the the the the concept the foundation will be panafrican nationalism in the principles of African culture I am a garveyite so we are revolutionary panafrican nationalist which basically means

what African self-determination in all things okay if the Chinese have their own self- sustaining Community if Anglo-Saxons have their own self-sustaining Community if the Arab and the east Indian have Their own self-sustaining Community we need ours as well our concept is what is to be done for black people must be done by black people legally you cannot say that this school is only for black children even if it is private you are not allowed to discriminate in education on the basis of race as you know in 1954 Brown versus Board of Education decision said you

cannot use race in education so I can't say this is a black boy school okay I Know that 99.9% if not 100% of my students will be African of African descent but I cannot say that ironically you can only discriminate on the basis of gender or sexuality in public school so you can have an all boy school you can have an all girl school you can have an all gay school but you cannot have an all black school you can have an all gay school that's Chicago has one I also believe there's an Academy here

in New York that I think might be specifically for lbgt students to protect them from from being bullied and such things I just read an article Atlanta I believe they're starting an all LBGTQ charter school I think well you made some comments about the type of school that you want started you know number one you know since we're talking about the whole LGBT thing you said that nobody that's I guess sexually confused is going to be allowed as a teacher in Your school yes that is correct now that's going to be tricky as well why

because you cannot discriminate in high ing on the basis of sexuality either so is it possible that someone who is sexually confused ends up getting hired at my school I should hope I do all in my power to prevent such a thing from happening okay but it is possible but if that be the case then I'm going to have to do something to reverse that because although I do not hate okay or Advocate Harm against members of the lbgt community I do not see that lifestyle in any way shape of form being in the best

interest of African people one of the misconceptions of my work is that I hate gays or I want to harm Gaye but as a scholar who has more videos on YouTube than any other black scholar alive I get invited to speak across the world more than any black scholar on the planet you can't find anything in any message of mine where I've either advocated harm or Hurt against homosexuals in fact as a psychotherapist I do therapy and have done therapy with homosexuals and I can tell you that when it comes to suicide and low self-esteem

and depression they're at the top of the list for it so even though I don't agree with the lifestyle I can still validate the life of the person who practices the behavior why do you say sexually confused as opposed to just gay I say sexually confused because in the African Cultural construct we believe that the Universe was founded on an absolute balance of masculine and feminine energy positive and negative Yin as well as Yang for every man that's a woman for every woman that there is a man we believe that complimentarity the balance or attraction

of opposites is what the universe is built upon every atom has a positive charge and a negative charge it's what allows the universe to exist for the sun there is the moon for water There is for Earth for the masculine there is for the feminine so from an African perspective and you will find this perspective very very prevalent throughout the continent of Africa uh most of us as African people are not pro homosexual don't find any evidence of any African civilization traditionally speaking where homosexuality was allowed considered normal or openly practiced we cannot prove that

no one was ever not gay but we can prove that no African Society ever legitimize the behavior as something that was to be accepted and practiced openly what youve said that no black child is born gay yes I believe that and of course in Psychology black children or just children in general I think it's children in general and that's a big debate in the world of mental health Psychiatry psychology are people born gay well here's the question can behaviors be inherited we know disease can be inherited we know Physical traits can be inherited okay but

inheriting a behavior this comes from Eugenics Francis gton who was Charles Darwin's cousin in London came up with this movement called Eugenics which means good stock it's from where Adolf Hitler in the United States of America and the other racist government sought to create a program of population control and extermination he said that white people were genetically Superior to everyone and that black people were Genetically inferior to everyone and he said that we need to selectively bring about the extermination of Africans by limiting their gene pool and we need to selectively breed white people into

a quote unquote Master the race which Adolf Hitler picked up and ran away with incidentally I was in Hitler's birthplace last week in Austria speaking but nonetheless it was a psychologist who created the Eugenics movement and arguing that people are Born gay supports the Eugenics premise because their idea is that all social problems of black people are a direct result of defective DNA they say if the black man sells drugs it was in his DNA if he drops out of school it was in his DNA if the black woman is married with six or seven

children it was in her DNA they blame all social phenomenon on genetics blaming genetics on homosexuality from my perspective is another way of trying to validate Eugenics through the back door I believe people are um exposed to it I believe that they can be manipulated into it I believe that they can be socialized for example I've been a therapist for almost 20 years I've met a lot of homosexual black males in my work 95% of the homosexual African-American men I've worked with and Latino were sexually violated as a child before the age of 12 Nearly

everyone so for me I don't need to look at the studies from Harvard I don't need to look at the studies from Yale I don't need to look at the studies from the University of Pennsylvania my experience direct work with people in my community makes it clear that the number number one it's not the only route to homosexuality but the number one route to sexual confusion for black males is molestation pedophilia before the teenage years yeah I mean that's always The big debate you know in the gay community is whether they were born that way

or whether something happened or whether it was just a choice you know um I I don't know it's one of those things where I haven't been around enough children to really make my own conclusion you know I have heard from some of my friends that you sometimes see kids from a very young age start to have certain um effeminate traits you know behaviors you know where you see Boys doing kind of feminine type things but femin feminization and homosexuality are different though yeah for example in the schools where I work there's a kid I can

think of right now he's very effeminate he's seven years old his ways are very effeminate why he has nothing but sisters at home the father's not there he's almost exclusively raised by the mother and the grandma you become like that which you are around so the mother will call me up and say Dr Johnson my son is picking up my daughter's dial what is he supposed to do if he doesn't have any male playmate so he understand boys are socialized to play with different toys so the mother is concerned that he may be homosexual I'm

telling her your son at seven or eight years old isn't even thinking about sex he's not even thinking about sex this is not a case of a boy being gay at seven this is a case of a young African-American male who's being Socialized around women and is simply pick up their behavior traits when he gets older and he's around more socialized to be around Mel you will see his behavior may change so it's very important that we don't confuse a feminite behavior which is the outward manifestation of stereotypical female Behavior traits with homosexuality which is

a sexual attraction to someone of the same gender seveny olds aren't sexually attracted to Anyone well you know like recently we had a story about Young Thug and and what he said that when he was 12 years old because his feet were so small that he would wear like girls like glittery shoes to school and you know his dad would beat him over you know over doing that but he say he didn't care he did it anyways now fast forward however many years you know whatever 10 years forward or I don't know how old he

is but early 20s you know Young Thug is wearing Women's clothes on a regular basis okay his latest album cover he's wearing a full-blown dress okay and you know he's doing Calvin Klein ads wearing a dress and so forth like when you look at that are you saying that young thug could just like dressing in in dresses and not be gay at all based on what you're saying oh yes you can definitely crossdress and not be gay without question in fact that's one of the diagnoses in Psychology is this Thing where people have this urge

to dress like the opposite gender but not necessarily be interested in living sexually as a member of the opposite gender now going back to the scenario you just gave and of course I don't know Young Thug I've never evaluated him and did therapy but just based on what you said his father beat him for wearing the high heels he didn't explain to him why he shouldn't he physically abused him okay that is a form of emasculation you Understand for a boy to be constantly physically abused by his father that can lead to low self-esteem that

can lead to him questioning his efficiency or ability to operate his life as a man should and by virtue of the verbal and physical abuse by his father homosexual thoughts could have been triggered purely from that so I'm seeing contextual variables that could have played a role into the brother ultimately taking on a homosexual Lifestyle but it wasn't the wearing of the shoes and it wasn't the DNA and it wasn't that he knew at such a young age that he would want to be gay I think the father in The treatment of the son by

the father may have triggered that for example I come across cases of African-American boys who are verbally abused by the mother or the father constantly told what is wrong with you why are you not as good as I am why you don't want to play sports why you acting Like a girl they're constantly told they're female so guess what they begin to shy away from their identity as a male because they've been told that it's insufficient you will never be an effective male so you ought to automatically pull back you start hanging around girls cuz

you don't feel adequate around the boys and it only takes one experience with a strong member of the sexually confused Community to bring someone who's lonely Looking for a place to belong to bring them on over I see it in the high schools all the time I'll see a kid I say this kid is weak and vulnerable if that gang comes over here okay or if that person that sexually confused individual meets them and takes them under their wing they're going to end up having that experience and it might change the rest of their life

it wasn't genetics it was exposure experience socialization and conditioning many People deny being uh nurtured into homosexuality they argue nature one of the reasons why you see this denial is because if I admit that I was not born this way that it is a choice that I control and by the way all behavior is a choice there is no Behavior Under the Sun I'm aware of that people do not have free will to choose until homosexuality this is the first Behavior ever where the argument or the dominant Paradigm that we being told the Narrative is

people don't choose it you choose whether you go to work or not you choose whether you kill someone or not you choose whether you use drugs but you don't choose to be it's the first Behavior it's predetermined first one so that's an issue in and of itself but at the same time uh the point that I'm trying to make is if I admit that I wasn't born G I'm going to be led into an investigation of what triggered this Behavior that's going to take me down the path of childhood where I might have to discuss

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when we talk About dressing and so forth you know one of the things that sort of exploded loaded the other day on social media was there was a girl uh a teacher uh who was an elementary school teacher and she start posting a pictures and there's this huge debate on whether or not she's dressing appropriately for you know her job I'm going to show show you this are you familiar with this picture no I haven't seen it okay so so this is a a teacher who's an elementary school Teacher and people are just arguing over

whether she's appropriately a lot of people are saying yes and you know in the context they're saying yeah and I would get with her which I think is not really part of the conversation me personally I feel that she's not dressed appropriately MH what is your take on it being an educator yourself I would argue number one that the way she's dressed is relatively conservative when compared to the way I See many teachers dress white or African-American okay one of the biggest issues I have had as a principal and I've had to pull some of

my teachers to the side black and white and Latino you cannot come in here like this okay because these boys are at the age Middle School in particular see the other question I would have for you is how old are her students if she elementary school so up to fifth grade okay up to fifth I might not have a problem with That up to fifth if she's Middle School 6th through eth she cannot dress like that cuz her body parts are obviously I mean she's a well-built woman the dress in and of itself isn't provocative

but her figure in that dress makes it provocative K to5 I don't have a problem with that 6 to eth 6 to 12th I got an issue with that but here's the conversation why is she allowed to dress like that if it is inappropriate for the parents in that school because I think The parents in that school ultimately have to make that decision the reason she gets to dress like that is because the um American Federation of teachers in the National Education Association these are the two largest teacher unions in America they are the Democratic

and Republican party of Education every school district most school districts are under one or the other they have bullied the school districts of America into this contract that's been around at Least for 30 years that says you cannot tell a teacher how to dress for work it is the only profession I know of education and I'm an educ okay where teachers cannot be told how to dress now private school they can tell them but publicly funded schools you cannot tell the teacher how to dress so you're saying in every Public School across the country there

is no dress code for the teachers 85% of the time know if that district is under aft or Nea one of the Uh beauties of being a teacher one of the powers of the Union is that we get the dress how we want and a conversation I have with principles all the time is my teachers are coming in here like they going to the club right and it's nothing I can do about it I mean when you look at this outfit this is literally something you would see in the club like I'm going to have

to side with her I'm G have to side with the teacher K To5 teacher the dress in and of itself is not designed to be provocative she just a well-built quote unquote here's that over okay no that's not appropriate that's not appropriate that's not appropriate for a teacher and I'm G tell you why not only is that jeans not only is that provocative that's too casual that's not a professional outfit the dress could be argued that if I was working at a regular routine business I could wear This to work she could wear that dress

to work she could not wear those jeans in that top to work so for me I would take issue with the second outfit because it is provocative and it is not professional the first one may be somewhat provocative but it is still somewhat more professional than that you don't go to school dressed like that yeah I mean personally I have an issue with it I think that when you have a job you should dress accordingly to That job if you work on Wall Street you don't come in with shorts and a tatter t-shirt you know

but then the counter argument my argument to you would be who's more responsible the employee okay or the system of Education because she can come to work like that because they say this is acceptable you understand it's the same argument when we talk about crime in the African-American Community where black Men keep going back to jail why they can't stay out of jail 87% recidivism rate I understand that now let's talk about the Box the context in which the African-American male exists 1970 they systematically start removing all the industrial building trade programs from the inner

city African-American high schools so up until 1970 you could go to high school graduate licensed to be a plumber Carpenter electrician Mason Barber over 12 trades most of us have Grandparents black and white who was able to earn a decent living with a high school trades education they took all them out in the 70s at the end of the Black Power movement on purpose to make sure independent black laborers could not Finance the Black Power movement and then in 1980 the CIA drops the crack cocaine off and so black men unable to find a legal

job participate in the cia's illegal economy mind you all the uh factory jobs that were available were Shipped out of the inner city even in North Philadelphia where I live you drive around nothing but abandoned factories they moved them out to create a context for incarceration so who is responsible when the black male is miseducated economically castrated comes out of jail cannot find any opportunity to set his life a right can't get welfare can't get health care can't get public housing can't get student loans so he breaks the law again and goes back We look

at him how about the system that creates the reality that necessitates that I commit a crime take me I'm 40 years old never been to jail I work in them I do a lot of prison work but I've never been arrested okay not yet anyhow take my six degrees take my doctorate take my CS give me a felony on my record I have two daughters if I have to feed them and my ability to earn a decent living was stolen I would have to consider desperation would make me Consider going to the corner to sell

that package you understand which is why we got to be very careful about blaming the person or separating them from the context in which the behavior took place the context in which she wore that dress is that the unions in the school district make it allowable if we want to change the way she dresses change the contract between the unions in the school districts now one of the things that you Said when talking about your school is that with the teachers that you wanted to hire for the school you won't allow any teachers uh who

have relationships with people of other races yes so and you know and so you wanted to only hire black teachers so you're saying that that black teacher can not have a relationship with a white person and Asian person you know and so forth not a romantic relationship not a Romantic relationship exactly not a romantic relationship now why is that cuz me personally most of my relationships have been with women of other races okay now why why do you have such an issue with that in terms of your school okay again the Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey

Academy being based on the principles of pan-africanism is based on the belief that we need healthy black families our children need to see strong Black men with strong black women in positive African Center heterosexual relationships in America black men marry outside their race more than the men of every other race put together in the United States Mary's outside of theirs speaking of percentages what is it about the black man that has him so addicted to any other woman except his own and it is the psychology of self-hatred mind you up until 1967 when the Supreme

Court struck down In loving versus Virginia the final laws in the country against mation you hardly find a black man married to a white woman you wasn't allowed you end up Strange Fruit hanging from the tree Jim Crow did not tolerate so soon when the Supreme Court overturns loving and the movie is coming out I just saw it there's a movie on the loving Supreme Court case the case that ultimately destroyed mulation laws is coming out soon and I don't think that's a Coincidence by the way but nonetheless as soon as they struck that law

down black men went crazy they went to find anything they could that was not black because of the self-hate if I look in the mirror and I don't like the way Umar Johnson looks I definitely don't want my son or daughter resembling me so what I'm going to do is conduct my own Eugenics experiment and I'm going to find a woman who has nothing in common with the women of my Race so when I look at my children I don't have to see my ugly black face and added to this is the fact that black

women in America are the least likely to get married black women only one out of four will get married when I went to college most of the white girls were married before we graduated the black girls some of them in their 40s still not married most of this has to do with America's war against the black man that incarcerates And exterminates but some of this also have to do with the fact that us educated black men once we get our Doctorate Degrees our Advanced master's degrees we think we're too good to the for the black

woman and we run out and go marry someone else's daughter and then we bring a child into this world who's biracial who for my purposes is an African I don't play bir raciality if your mother is black or your father is black you're African because there is no 50-50 mix the African is genetically dominant we're not Superior to no one but we are genetically dominant so that's an African Child I don't get into that but working with biracial children they go through a lot of psychological conflicts because you're half black and half white you belong

to the tum mer adversarial dichotomous races on the planet and you constantly have to navigate where you belong at even if you speak the biracial Brothers in the Hip-hop industry as swagalicious as they can be when you sit down and have a conversation with a lot of them they will tell you about the conflicts they had along the way arriving at their African identity and a lot of this comes from the fact that the white mother that gives birth to the black child has a problem telling that child that you are black and going to

have to learn how to exist as a black person white mothers in my experience are less honest than white Fathers white fathers will tell their biracial child you African and I want you to understand that because that's how the world is going to treat you mothers and I believe it's due to racism I believe the white mother that gives birth to the African Child is conflicted doesn't want to admit to herself that through her womb she gave birth to an African so she's more willing to have that child grow up thinking that I'm biracial which

doesn't Even exist here here's the the interesting thing that that I've started to notice recently is when you look at the entertainers out there and this is the world that I I function in most of the time and you look at like for example the Chris Browns of the world who are constantly getting in trouble they're you know they're getting arrested they're getting into fights they're getting into to social media Wars and so Forth the type of people that you see doing this over and over again the one thing that they seem to have in

common is that none of them are ever married okay and the thing is is that when you have someone in a powerful position and you don't have a wife or a very strong partner that's willing to give you their opinion with zero ulterior motives you are going to be in a very different place than when you have a Bunch of employees around you that know at any moment if they upset you they're fired mhm they're not going to give you the same level of advice and no true success can come from one person it always

comes from a team I agree so you so you have these situations because when you look at for example the Jay-Z's of the world you look at the ludicrous of the world or you look at Kanye these days they're not getting into fist fights they're not going into these Situations that are so self Haring because they have someone in their Corner marriage calms you down it it matures you it calms you down but here's what I would say with situations like with Chris Brown and other high-profile celebrities I also think the media deliberately and in

a very biased and discriminatory fashion only shines a light on their public behaviors that are less than acceptable to the rest of us they don't shine light when they do Positive things in the community they don't shine a light when they do things that are advantageous to society because that's not popular let's be honest the media loves sensationalism so they will run out when Chris Brown gets the police called on them but they won't run out when Chris Brown goes to the community center and Spins his own money in his own time working with the

young children there so we have to look at the biased behavior of the media but I agree with You marriage does calm you down but if you are a high-profile personality as I am you you often have to be careful as well in your search for that Queen because there's so many alterior motives often women may want the package but not the personality so if I look at me for example I come across a lot of beautiful black women excellent choices for wife but the reason I'm slow to choose is because I know that for

a lot of women they will love the package he's a PhD He's self-employed he's building a school he's extremely popular I know he can take care of me but you're not looking at the other side that this man is walking the same path as a Marcus Garvey as a Malcolm X as a mega EV he might not come home tomorrow everything he got may be taken are you getting with Dr Umar to help him achieve his mission or are you getting with Dr Umar so he can help help you live the American dream so you

have to be very very Careful I always say that if I knew I would be blessed or cursed to be given this responsibility I would have had my wife beforehand I would have made sure I had her son someone would have came to me and said listen 2009 your career is going to go to a whole another place you're going to be used to try to do something important for your people I would have found a wife it's hard to choose them now because you never know the alterior motives and that's just for Me I'm

not the multi-million dollar rapper actor for them I know it got to be even worse well yeah I mean jcole married his high school sweetheart you know before he ever beo like because you knew her before the fame but sometimes you don't have those High School sweethearts that are still available many of them have already found a husband so sometimes it's difficult to Go back to Safe space and then also when you're in such a quote unquote controversial line of work as I am not every woman wants that I mean if you look at some

of the wives of some of our greatest uh Freedom Fighters a lot of them the wives did not want the life they come to accept it they learn to live with it but I think if you ask some of them if you could do this all over would you have done this married a man who you knew would be assassinated you Know 10 years into the marriage and you're left to raise those children with little or no support I don't know if they would have went with it so I think sometimes it has to be

a calling I think women I think some of these women I think ketta Scott King Betty shabaz Amy Garvey uh Mrs Evers I think you know that they were chosen by Divine Providence to walk with those men cuz it takes a special woman to walk with a man who's always walking around with that on His chest well yeah I mean I actually interviewed elasha shabaz Malcolm X's daughter recently and she talked about my first book growing up ex speaks to all of that and it speaks mostly to uh the will of my mother you know

how she managed to smile you know in the face of her children but was obviously in pain you know behind closed doors she had six babies she raised each one of us she sent us to the best schools that she could because she knew that education Was very important um she didn't get any public grants or anything she worked very hard to make sure that her husband's girls were properly educated were properly um self sustaining you know that they were proud to be women that they were proud to be people of the African diaspora that

they were proud to be Muslims going back to our earlier conversation about athletes being glorified but not academic Achievers it's the same Thing in a larger African-American Community we glorify the entertainers in the athletes we don't glorify the Freedom Fighters you understand we will spend $500 to go see someone in concert but we won't spend that $500 to necessarily build a hospital or or factory or distribution Network so we have to look at how we as a community reward those who ignore us us and punish the ones who die for us it's one of the

central contradictions Within our political reality yeah well you had a situation a while back where uh this woman who called herself the conscious stripper I guess put you on blast like what was that whole situation about it's a old situation it was a sister that I met okay very beautiful uh I met her down in Florida Marcus gar celebration I was the keynote my rosta farra brothers hosted the event ironically you're asking me this because I was just in Jamaica two weeks ago to Keynote the Marcus Garvey celebration and uh the same Brothers brought me

there shout out to priest douge um and so I met her I was signing books and taking pictures at the end of my lecture I think it was Black History Month or Quanza it was 2014 and uh she waited by the side for me very beautiful woman with her son came up after you know she introduced herself said I'm a homeschooling mom I'm trying to start a homeschooling Network I love what you do and I'm from Philly I said' for real you from Philly I'm from Philly she says yeah I said when you come up

let's connect which we did um and then on May 17th the anniversary of the Brown versus Board of Education Supreme Court decision I'm at a graduation for a friend of mine Spelman College down in Atlanta with her family and all of a sudden social network went crazy and to this day and of course that was two years ago but to this day I Still don't know what the motive was I still we never had an argument I don't know why that happened to this very day I don't know if she was sent to do that

I don't know if there was something I did that she felt disrespected her uh I don't know what the motive is to this day you know but it happened and it made me even more quote unquote paranoid about getting to meet women because you never know what they're going to do the day after they meet you yeah I mean I Guess one of the things that I guess she claimed was that you had lost a $1 million donation from an NBA player I did I did and I can tell you that oh so that's actually

true oh it's very true it's very true I was contacted by a relative of one of our top five NBA basketball players okay I don't want to call his name because I really appreciate him even considering to do this given who I am and we were in talks for a couple of weeks talking back and Forth he know about you we got the board we we moving we moving that whole thing dropped with her I'm in Washington DC I'll never forget it I'm about to speak at a juvenile detention Center's conference I'm backstage I get

the email I'm sorry to tell you this but he cannot be associated with that type of uh energy or whatever it was he won't be able to get a donation soon as I read the text they came and said the kids they ready for you I couldn't even get Out my seat I had to take about 5 10 minutes to get myself ready I was about to cry I ain't going to lie I was going to cry I just lost a million dollars because of bad decisions now there's the chance that they wasn't going to

give me the money and simply use that as an excuse that's always a possibility be that as it may the bottom line was I would have never even known if that was the truth had this never happened so it did cost me the million dollar donation I was this close and that dropped right before they was going to make the decision one of the most unfortunate things in my I'll never forget it because of when I find out right before I go talk to some young people and that's when I saw I wish I never

checked that text right there cuz it messed my whole day up so you've never talked to her or anything else like that after the she sent me a couple text messages uh this would probably be I want to say a couple months post Scandal because again that was two months two years ago almost um but I didn't respond because I anticipated that that was more of a setup because I heard she was working on a book and all this other stuff which was quite interesting since only saw you three times in the same week three

times in the same week what book can you write off of three times in seven to nine days so but nonetheless You know I still hear she's out there lurking she still befriending people who know me it ain't over oh she's not done I thought she was she's not she's done but all I can say is I don't hold it against her I made the bad decision I take full responsibility for that I just have to try to choose better today's episode of the Vlad couch is brought to you by Uber we've all taken Uber

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you criticized Obama yes on on a number of occasions yes now now I I'll be honest as as someone who grew up in the C you know in the US I remember watching the old Chris Rock uh standup specials where he said there's never going to be a black president remember there's never even going to be a black vice president because the first thing will happen is some black guy is going to kill the President be a hero in prison because the the vice president will then become the president I was honestly surprised that in

my lifetime there was a black president and a term black president as that and and the one thing that I can say and and this is my own personal opinion as I go through life and as I build my business and I do separate you know different types of things the first thing I usually look for is what's the Role model who's already doing what I want to do how are they doing it and let me so somewhat emulate what they're doing and use them as a as a blueprint to where I want to go

and I don't think you could deny that having a black president is inspirational for black kids all around the world not just America to say wow someone who looks like us can have the highest job in the land if not the world when at one point we weren't even considered humans we Weren't people didn't even think we could read you know we were bred like cattle you know in terms to try to create the biggest slaves and so forth to go from that to actually say here's someone who actually did a job and even got

reelected you can't say that's not a role model I would say he's not a role model a role model is someone whom you would like other African-American boys to Aspire to be when you look at President Barack Obama's political Behavior in the White House towards African Americans I cannot in good conscience want any African-American boy to emulate the neglect that their president has shown for African-Americans in fact when you look at the black reality each index of black progress has actually regressed since Obama has been in the White House Dropout is higher unemployment is worse

incarceration is higher police brutality has almost went back to the days of Reconstruction pre Jim Crow mind you he's done nothing about it the okay now I understand the argument he's president for the United States of America he's not just president of Black America I understand but here's the issue with that Black America is not a is not a amalgamation of different ethnicities America is a solid Bowl okay and in a solid Bowl you still have every vegetable maintaining its own uniqueness A solid is not a soup in a soup you cut it all up

and you don't know what's in this soup but in a solid everything maintains its identity the Chinese the Italian the Irish the European Jew everyone retains their identity which means that if you want to take care of the American people there is no homogeneous American people Vlad there is only subgroups of America so Obama took care of the homosexual minority subgroup He took care of the female minority subgroup he took care of the Immigrant minority subgroup but the group that built the United States of America that made it what it is African people received no

direct attention from the president of the United States how can you say he's the president of all people when he's act specifically for gays everybody in America not gay but Obama gave homosexuals Three Laws a Supreme Court Justice more than 2 50 ferally Appointed jobs he gave the Latinos a Supreme Court Justice unprecedented laws white women the Equal Pay Act he put us another female in the Supreme Court so he's done things for female minorities gay minorities uh Latino minorities he's done nothing for African-Americans I cannot look to him as a road model if Frederick

Douglas were alive if Marcus Garvey were alive if Dr King were here and now he would be criticizing Obama as much as I his choice of words may be Different but he would have to because even Dr King spoke of how the power structure loves to use Black Faces to hide the racist agenda of the system in fact before Obama got elected I'm the only black scholar I know of of prominence who actually said this was not going to be a good thing for black folks and people said how can you say that I said

it's real simple look at the condition of black people with black politicians in office do you realize Since the rise of the black politician post civil rights post doctor King assassination the condition of the black community gets worse the more we elect black people we get a black Governor we do worse a black mayor we do worse Black State reps us reps councilmen aldermen uh why do we do worse you know why because 99% of all black elected officials Obama on down are financed by the Democratic party white corporations and by some of the Same

entities that we as a people have to challenge how can he carry out a Black Agenda when he's financed with white money the only way Black America is going to get elected officials that do the work of black people is to dig in our pockets and finance them ourselves we vote voting is important but you did not Finance the only way you control a politicians behavior is when you control the pot of money he uses to get elected in the first place well for example I Interviewed priz from the Fuji you donated $1.2 million to

to Barack Obama's campaign yo where you getting these information from is that not true I'm starting to think you CIA man hey man this is what I do true is out there now it's out it's out in the in in the in the universe yeah I did to his to a super pack through a super pack so so your corporation donated $1.2 million to the Barack Obama super pack no no no to a super pack that backs Obama he didn't have a superpack you don't need to be given any white entity that type of money

okay first of all you shouldn't be spending that type of money on elected politics if I would have spoke to the brother and we met before because when I was uh back with the black student union back in my Millville University days we brought the Fuji up there so I met PRI shout out to him okay but that money should be going towards an institution or if you want to put it All towards politics it should be going towards a black political union not a black party a lot of folks think we need a black

political party a black political party still will not win against the Democrats or the Republicans because we are a numerical majority in the country what we need is black power put that money in a black pack political action committee and then that way we can hold either candidate responsible the problem with black America is we Have a love affair with the Democratic party that has long since expired any benefit it may have accorded to us we vote Democrat every election irregardless of whether or not the Democrats say they're going to do anything for African-Americans let's

take Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton hasn't stated one objective measurable outcome we can look forward to if when she ascends to the White House not one but every black celebrity is running Behind her even the parents of our slain children murdered by the police running behind Hillary we think she's going to do something we think stop thinking and meet and demand if you want me to go public for you what are we going to get in exchange and I don't want to philosophical I'm going to make America better for blacks I need it to be measurable

are you going to do something about prison are you g to do something about the schools are you going to do Something about police brutality we have to stop endorsing white political candidates before we get any concessions Black America will never get nothing out of the power structure with this type of behavior we hate the Republicans no conversation love the Democrats we're going to give you all our votes no conversation so what happens neither party takes you seriously because you pledge your vote before you even find out what the agenda is imagine walking Into a

supermarket and you're looking for some bread and you grab any old bread you just like the way it looks so you grab it you didn't look at the ingredients you didn't look at the price you didn't look at how long the bread has been there I'm just going to buy it because this is the bread that my mom always bought how you know that's the healthiest bread for your family you don't know you don't even care because you're shopping for what it looks like Not for actually what it is our political behavior is extremely and

a lot of that comes from the black church who actually benefits from black people's political retardation because if black people were politically Progressive we probably wouldn't go to church as much as we do because the purpose of church is to make oppression Divine the purpose of church is to evangelize evangelize white supremacy the purpose of church is to make you Comfortable with nothing because after you die God is going to give you everything the the current Paradigm of black religion is totally advantageous to white supremacy there is no church I know of with a bank

that's trying to build there's no church I know of that's putting black people to work every church I know of is color blind they don't deal with black issues they're God loves everybody we can't see colors which means you can't solve the Problems of black people so we have to look at how the black community is set up it's not by accident so if I'm running for office guess the first place I'm going to go the first place I'm going to visit if I'm running for office is the black church because I know if I

get that preacher he's going to use the Bible and evangelize my campaign and make all these black folks vote for a white person or a black person who don't plan to do anything for them recently I Had Mark Lemon Hill mhm from Philadelphia as myself MH and he mentioned something that was kind of interesting the prison begins after uh after slavery you know you had all these people on all these plantations all these Farms who are making money America is built on the exploitation of black labor America's built on slave labor so slavery ends and

suddenly the slave codes turn into Black Codes right because the 13th Amendment abolishes Slavery right but it only abolishes slavery except under the condition of prison in other words if you commit a crime if you're incarcerated according to the 13th Amendment slavery is still allowed and right after that we had just reported that there was a nationwide prison protest against uh prison labor m where you know and I talked to a couple people that have been to prison who had been there for a number of years and they were saying how they get like 17

Cents an hour MH work working you know how like after three years they made like $340 or something like that like how do you feel about that uh first of all he's absolutely correct the 13th amendment outlawed slavery by the individual but then it inlaw slavery by the state and it validated reincarceration through mass incarceration so any what they did was they said okay we got 4 million blacks who about to be free 4 million Jobless we freed them but we gave them no opportunity which means they still dependent on us it just transform the

system so and we're not going to give them a job that means these black men and women have to do what they have to break the law to feed their family so what they did to create this mass incarceration system which was designed to do what moove blacks from the functioning Society get them out the way so they're not so they don't threaten Anything we're trying to do so what did they do they upgraded Petty crimes and made them felonies if you didn't have a job you go to jail if you didn't have a home

you go to jail you outp pass curfew you go to jail you don't have ID you go to jail I mean any little petty ense could put you in prison for years this was done intentionally why because the former plantation owners needed workers and they didn't want to pay for them so what's the cheapest form of Labor Mass incarcerate the EXs slave and then force him out hire him out contract him out onto the Chain Gang same thing they doing today you see this was done by Design at the end of the Civil War there

was no large scale federal prison system you didn't have the sophisticated Statewide prison networks you have today that came post 13th Amendment post 1865 to make sure we had a negro removal program that took EXs slaves out of society and put them back on the Chain Gangs and you still have chain gang today Angola prison down in Louisiana I believe it is they still have brothers out picking cotton and other crops with a white man on Horseback with a rifle no different than an overseer 150 years ago and someone just sent me live pictures from

it looks just like a scene from the 1760s but it was in 2015 so slavery hasn't went anywhere okay and and and and and all of this again was by Design okay the black man is not born a Criminal the black man is made a criminal ironically who sold the drugs in America back in the 1920s who ran the gangs in America back in the 1920 who sold the dope and ran the booze Irish gangsters Jewish gangsters Italian gangsters why did they do it because they were not considered white people until 1940 so they broke

the rules to feed their family but nobody said they was born to be criminals but all of a sudden 1940 comes they're upgraded to White status so we're going to give the Irish the police department in the Italians the fire department and the European Jews the civil service jobs in every major City's government which they still own and control to this day and all we're going to do is push the black males into the criminal underworld that was formerly occupied by the European gangs criminals are made well it's interesting because when we put this article

up this huge debate Just broke out where it's like well they're criminals you know they deserve deserve to you know to be there and they deserve to have to do this labor and it's like well they're already in prison you're already being punished by being put in a cage and as someone I've never done any real jail time but I did a weekend here and there for you know just petty stuff so being in a cage is a pretty severe punishment in and of itself but as an Employer I really don't understand why I have

to pay my employees a a certain amount of money based on their skills whereas a prison could just put all these men to work profit from it and only pay them 17 cents an hour like why not for example pay them a proper wage but a certain percentage of the wage goes to the victims you know that's something that I would be I'd be completely for but here's the thing most of them are not in Prison for violent crime most black men in jail in America are in prison for nonviolent drug related offenses most of

them are not most criminals are not there for violent crimes and crime is a function of the state whatever Behavior the state considers to be a threat to its Monopoly of domination is automatically criminalized what's going on in America now the decriminalization of marijuana but I haven't heard no person yet argue That reparations is old to all Americans alive or their descendants if they're no longer alive if they were formerly incarcerated for marijuana use how can America be marijuana be acceptable all of a sudden but youve put thousands of people in jail for smoking it

possession distribution and now it's legal same thing with alcohol doing a Prohibition it has send you to jail then but it's legal today so is crime really about what's right and wrong that's the Question is crime about what is right or what is wrong or is crime simply the mask that we use to hide the government's agenda to get rid of certain populations yeah now I feel you what's your take on uh Kaepernick and I love it shout out the the whole situation with you know athletes protesting I love what he did but it would

have been so much stronger if the whole team would have done it we haven't had a major black Athlete take a stand like that since the brothers put the fist up at the Olympics since the days of mammad Ali you don't see that type of bold Unapologetic alpha male black man behavior from our athletes most of them as physically imposing as they are are extremely doile Michael Jordan for example Michael Jordan when people when young Brothers was killing each other in the streets over Michael Jordan sneakers he didn't say say a word Michael Jordan be

was the Prototype of the modern day athlete he was Joe Lewis on steroids I'm not going to say nothing I'm going to keep my mouth shut I have no social responsibility to people who look like me whatsoever and then to prove y'all I don't have no social responsibility people look like me once I divorced my first wife who was black I'mma marry a young white one so you can clearly see what Michael Jordan's mindset is but what Colin did was right it was powerful I stand by him I can't wait to get one of his

jerseys he may suffer because of it he may suffer because of it but his self-respect and the respect he's going to get from a lot of us on the bottom is going to go through the roof because he took a stand he took a stand I didn't stand up for the uh star spangle Banner do you know what that Flag represents the black people would you ever ask a European Jew to stand up for the singing of the Nazi national anthem so if a European Jew don't have to stand for Hitler's Anthem no black person

should have to stand for the national anthem of the star spangle Banner when I went to Scotland school which was a preparatory Military Academy they wanted to throw me out because I didn't pledge the flag but when they contacted the state the state said that the federal courts have already decided on this you cannot make a child say the Pledge of Allegiance in school so they wanted to throw me out But they could not do that so I appreciate what he did but here's the thing that needs to be understood all progress and all change

is made in a group the individuals might spark the change but it is the group that ultimately realizes it what if all black athletes did that that's what we need we need Mass direct action Dr King Marcus gar Mass direct action what he did was right but it would have been better if the Other brothers would have stood with him well you are seeing more athletes now like there there's been more and more athletes who are not standing that are you know raising their fist and so forth one of the things that just happened though

was the Seattle Seahawks uh announced that they would uh stand with their arms uh interlocked okay during during the national anthem and you know one of the A woman who' been on our Show recently uh Miko Grimes uh who's the wife of an NFL player she called them a bunch of for doing that the Players called The Players called the whole team or white what is she black or white she's black she's black well she and I don't know the sister but for her to chastise brothers who take a stand against white supremacy means she's

an agent of that white supremacy see one Thing you got to understand about she she's criticizing them because as opposed to not standing they're all standing but with their arms that are locked oh as opposed to taking the seat I understand here's what I would say to that I understand where she coming from yeah but something is better than nothing something is better than nothing you got to start somewhere anytime an athlete shows any type of social consciousness towards their people I Have to commit him they might not have the courage of a Kaepernick they

might not have the political influence either because he's a superstar you understand some of these brothers who interlock their arms they might not be a superstar Colin Kaepernick is pretty much indispensable so to speak he's one of the top 25 athletes you know in the world I would say so he has some leverage LeBron you know if he did something like that he could do that LeBron is indispensable to the NBA's pocketbook okay Colin Kaepernick is indispensable to the 49ers pocket but some of these other guys may not be so we have to make sure

we're not too quick to judge because when you criticize an attempt to do something right then you reduce the likelihood that they will ever try anything again it's like when people ask me about the black lives matter movement you know say you know they running around and they disrupting Political meetings I might not agree with everything they do but I can respect that they're trying to do something I might not agree with it but because the effort is there to make a difference I got to respect it I'm not going to sit there and criticize

every little thing and why they didn't do it this way they are trying and it's been 50 years since we've seen black college students black college students get involved in any serious social protest The last time we seen this was the stins the freedom rods stokeley car Michael H rap Brown we haven't seen the level of social Consciousness on the University campus that we see today so I have to respect it and withhold the criticism well what's interesting about the the Kaepernick situation and we we had posted a story about this also there was a

there was a a story written on the Bleacher Report where it was Anonymous sources but they had spoken to a bunch Of the executives in the front office of the 49ers and they basically you know their take was this guy he'll never work again his career is over and so forth and there was an interview recently with Harry bellante where they brought that to his attention and what he said was kind of interesting he said that uh to mute the slave is always the goal of the slave owner oh without question because Revolution is contagious

the 99e monkey experiment it Only takes 1% of a population committed to what they're trying to do to influence the other 99% and they understand you have to realize the American Sports Enterprise which is one of its top exports black music is America's second largest export black music and black Athletics is at the foundation of American corporate power so they have to be very careful about how they let athletes and entertainers Express themselves because They could trigger re if Jay-Z wanted to he could probably do more today than a doctor king and a Malcolm did

40 years ago why because he has the position the influence in most of all the money Malcolm had to get his money King had to get his money The Honorable Marcus Messiah Garvey had to get his money The Honorable Elijah Muhammad had to get his Jay got his money if him and Beyonce one or two they could start a revolution the question Becomes and I'm not singling them out I'm just bringing them up because they're prominent any name could be used in their place are you willing to pay the sacrifice that must be paid in

order to push Black America forward anyone who has helped push us forward had to pay a sacrifice whether was jail whether it was reputation whether it was employment whether it was their lives but freedom is not free it cannot be voted away it cannot be prayed Away it cannot be negotiated away okay it has to be fought and not just physically economics is a form of War propaganda is a form of War Finance is a form of War but many of our athletes and entertainers are so comfortable they're not willing to risk that see 50

years ago the athletes and entertainers didn't live much better than the regular black folks they had a status that was great but they didn't have the financial elitism of today Today's black athlete and Entertainer has millions of dollars that many of them don't want to liquidate it's like when people ask me why haven't I been on Oprah Winfrey show yet you're the top black school psychologist in America hands down okay you've never been on Oprah Winfrey show but she made Dr Phil a millionaire she's not going to bring me on her show because Oprah Winfrey

and I'm not attacking her I I actually applaud her success but but she made her Success by pleasing and accommodating white females that's her predominantly viewing audience she's not going to blame blame bring Dr Umar Johnson on her couch so I can say publicly that the reason black boys are not learning in school is because middle class white female teachers are racist and don't care about their best interest she don't want me saying that on the show okay people are afraid of the truth and they will muffle it that's why whenever There's conversations about Black

America who do you see no disrespect to none of them by the way Mark lemman Hill Tavis Smiley Cornell West why Dr Umar Johnson not in those conversations especially when you're dealing with mental health and education my expertise far exceed any of them in those areas but you don't get me there you know why because they know that their responses are going to be somewhat tempered my response is going to be the Brutal truth it won't be disrespectful but it will be honest you can't put me on CNN with Anderson's Cooper and tell it like

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murdered by Warner Brothers and Michael Jackson was murdered by Sony yes for the for their music catalog yes without question Michael Jackson Owned okay the rights to the Beatles he owned a significant portion of Elvis's catalog who's more popular than them two guys in in the world of white music and a black man owns the rights Sony records deliberately sabotage Michael Jackson's last album Invincible to guarantee that he would be into debt to the corporation so he would have to pay them back by giving up the catalog okay and ultimately that's why he was murdered

he should have never came back to the Staple sentence to prepare for those concerts that he had lined up those concerts would have gave him the liquid cash to pay off his debt to Sony and keep his catalog so in order to make sure you get the catalog back you got to make sure that Michael never goes on tour to get the Liquid cash Michael wasn't broke he just didn't have the liquid cash he had the assets he didn't have the liquid money and from what I heard the catalog is no longer in the Jackson

family's possession Sony they the the catalog was partially sold I believe to Sony after after his death well Michael Jackson I guess at the time he was having some Financial issues but once once he died and the state came in and cleaned up his finances he he became one of the richest dead celebrities on the planet oh yeah well Michael Jack well he's the highest selling recording artist of all time he sold more than a billion albums no one Else has ever done that you know but the the music industry functions like any other white

racist Society it's get down to lay down so Michael was murdered he was murdered without no question and prince who do you know here's the interesting thing about the Prince murder he was sick with the flu but he was riding his bike in the park a day or two before he who do you know with the flu takes a ride in cold Minnesota okay with the flu nonsense Prince was Murdered they found him in the elevator gasping for air whatever the situation is he was murdered too and I think the the problem that he made

was he went back to the table to negotiate with Warner Brothers they wanted to uh remix the uh Purple Rain 20 or 30 year annivers album he agreed to that first of all who calls you up and say we want to give you your Masters that's the first question who calls anyone up and says we want to give you your Masters Back he was fighting for his Masters his whole career all of a sudden out the blue you want to give him his Masters that was the makavelian give in order to take to get back

into Prince's life on exactly what he was up to Prince's death Michael's death was for the Beatles catalog and his Sher of Elvis's catalog Prince was murdered for his unpublished material they said Prince was almost like a Tupac maybe even more than Tupac they said Prince had enough unpublished Material that you could release an album a year for the next 100 years they didn't care about the Purple Rain they want the unpublished material because that stuff is ultimately worth billions you got to understand princess fans are like no other fans I know cuz I have

an aunt who is a prince fan I mean they they are like no other fans so you get your hands on a dead artists unpublished material is jackpot he was murdered for what had not been released yet uh Michael was murdered for what he owned well you had mentioned Tupac also you felt the Tupac was Tupac was murdered without questioning Tupac the FBI was uh had supac and big for that matter under surveillance for at least a week prior to the murder so that means even the murder was caught on tape by the FBI now

mind you Pac was a serious threat his mother was a Shakur former leader of the New York City Panthers this is the same black woman who walked Into a New York City Federal Court House pregnant with Tupac and defended herself and 20 other Panthers from that famous Panther 21 trial when they were charged with plotting to blow up federal buildings which was nothing but a co-intel pro setup pregnant with pop no legal experience this black woman defends herself and all 20 of them 21 of them walk out of prison so naturally the child of that

has to be watched jono Pratt his Godfather mulu Shakur I Believe possibly The Stepfather at the time of his death he was um working to politicize the Crips and the bloods in La Tupac was a threat the number one selling rapper in the world okay is a revolutionary they could not allow that after he split from Death Row Tupac was on his way to do some revolutionary things so they cut him down before he could grow well I mean I actually researched the story and spoke to people who were actually there and so Forth and

people that were close to the situation you can't deny that right before Tupac was killed he beat he beat up a known gang banger and murderer okay and from everything that points to it this was repercussion to what had just happened a few hours you know previously I mean you could create the whole conspiracy theory and so forth but when you look at the actual chain of events you know cuz some people are saying oh well Su Knight set him up and it's like You're really going to set up someone in you're going to have

someone assassinated while you're in the car with him and the car is riddled with bullets and so forth I mean Tupac ass you have to look at the facts of a situation sometimes Tupac's assassination was a political assassination it was not due to the gang situation at all that that that was totally political and mind you he arrived to the hospital the AL see we Also have to look at that too Tupac arrived at the hospital alive okay very bad very bad very bad but he survived a few days not to say that it wasn't

the shooting that killed him but we do know we have a history of black uh radical figures going into the hospital alive okay and then dying shortly thereafter okay and I also think that it's no coincidence that e Tupac and big all died within a year of one another pretty much Pac was what 95 I saying easy was 994 no big was 97 Pac was 95 and easy was 94 or something like that I think EAS was like 92 nah easy wasn't 92 '92 I graduated from high school easy was still alive easy died 95

you're right easy 95 Pac 96 big 97 look at that one year for three consecutive years three of the top rap personalities exited out so I mean we all know about the Hip Hop Police we all know that you know actually right I just looked it up so yeah e95 Tupac 96 Big 95 9697 exactly it's no coincidence but the music industry is a secret society and the music industry's job is to do what promote and propagate the images that are most advantageous for the power structure to use in order to facilitate its agenda if

we want black men in jail in dead we need black rappers to promote a constant message of Destruction and degeneracy every rap video has four elements in it killing black people using Women smoking weed selling dope in worship and materialism every rap video the lyrics might be different the beat might be different but the five elements of Destruction are there present in every single rap video made except for the conscious rappers the common sense the Dead prees the Talib qualis uh The Immortal techniques but mainstream rap is nothing more than a billboard for why don't

we just all go to jail or die