welcome to the muscle expert podcast with ben pakulski one of the world's top professional bodybuilders and expert on human performance and mindset mastery Ben dives deep to deliver the strategies of the top experts to upgrade your body mind muscle strength performance biochemistry and how to become the upgraded modern man join us on ben falkowski calm to learn the cutting edge techniques to take control of your body your brain and create your greatest life what's up ladies and gents muscle expert podcast I'm your host Ben Pelosi and today we have a guest that's out of the
norm but it's still incredibly applicable to living your greatest life and also developing your greatest body John Emeril is an energy worker and a chiropractor by trade who's literally changing the lives of the highest level athletes entrepreneurs billionaires around the world and teaching them how to connect with their unconscious connect with their body and showing us how emotions become trapped in our body as physical manifestations everything you feel in your body starts in your mind so Jon does a really amazing job of articulating the combination of the science and the energy world and that's a
very hard thing for a lot of us to grasp but I'm getting I'm confident you're gonna love this episode because I've never heard anyone do such a great job of articulating how to integrate those two things so your consciousness is creating your physical reality and we know that so if you can learn to start to manipulate your physical reality maybe you can change your conscious expression and vice versa so the body and mind are integrated I hope you enjoyed John Emeril and if you do please do us a favor and as always share with at
least one person you know will love this episode have a great day hey guys I interrupt this podcast to let you know about a special appearance coming up on April 6th and 7th in Salt Lake City Utah i'ma gonna be appearing at fit con appearing twice once on Friday once on Saturday I hope you see everyone of you there I'm an open book you guys can ask absolutely anything you want I'm gonna be doing a couple very specific talks about the art and science of muscle and really how to hack your life to live it
in your greatest body so I hope you guys enjoy this episode I look forward to seeing every one of you in Salt Lake City April 6th and 7th at the Salt Lake City Palace enjoy welcome ladies and gentlemen to the muscled expert podcast I am your host ben pakulski and for the last 20 years I have been mastering muscle building I've pushed my body to the limit and beyond I've made every mistake Under the Sun so that I could learn to become a student this process that I could learn to master this process and no
matter how many programs I give out no matter how many perfectly designed nutrition plans I give out 95% of people still will fail why there's a huge consideration here that people aren't paying attention to and that's the mindset and the energy component to what goes into muscle building and so many people choose muscle building because for what they think it will make of them but the reality is muscle building will not do anything except exit exemplify or exaggerate the characteristics you already have and our guest today is an amazingly special guest that's going to teach
us how to integrate the psychology of energy and allow us to address our roadblocks our limiting beliefs and actually physically the energy blocks that we all experience that we don't even know exist sometimes because we all live this world I live in this world of you know just numbing out numbing out thoughts numbing out emotions you know we do everything in our power to not hear our thoughts and not hear our feelings you know whether it be from TV and radio and mindless chatter dr. John Emeril how are you doing sir hey I'm doing great
thanks for having me on day so I first heard about you as being Tony Robbins therapist and that was like that's interesting and then I heard you speak and it was you're the only guy I've ever heard bridging the gap between the physical and the energy world and to me as I briefly said in an introduction it's so necessary and it's a necessary component that people are missing in their in their day to day life that I would love to have you start to shed some light on how we start to integrate this you know
the X's and O's of the physical training and the physical nutrition with actually making it work and making it stick because and not getting in our own way as far as blocking our energetic pathways I'm a student I know nothing about this I'm gonna let you take this and run oh and it's a it's a huge it's a huge field and and and there's a lot of ground we can cover when go in a Ledge or different directions so I'll start off with some thoughts and then I'll let you ask questions or guide it how
you want and we'll well I want it I mean basically I want to make sure that we I get oh I have a question for actually so how did this start you mentioned you're a chiropractor for 20 years and obviously you treated a lot of people how did this conversation start for you well I grew up as a very like a performance athlete so I grew up in California I had a I started out with you know everything from t-ball Little League to to just about every kind of sport you could imagine growing up I
was on teams I was on all-star teams I was in wrestling I went to you know I was just I was you know chant champion wrestler in high school I am a black belt in martial arts I mean like my whole and then I also which grew up surfing so I'd surf you know really big you know intense waves which is a very athletic you know endeavor you have to be an absolutely amazing fitness and and and and super you know dexterity and then I also would skateboard those big vert ramps and swimming pools and
you know I mean so I was really like using my body incredibly pushing my body and my way out of sort of everything was was exerting my body what I didn't have is a relationship with my inner world in that I didn't have a connection to what I was feeling emotionally so I had I had really severe asthma had very severe eczema skiing conditions very like rash that would develop very very itchy so much where I'd like scratch at my body and and and have you know bloody bleeding you know literally it was just so
irritating and then I had I would have allergic reactions to all kinds of things so my body would break out in hives I was on steroidal inhalers and steroid creams I was injected with medications that who knows what they did to my nervous really for seven or eight years for the allergies to try to suppress the inflammatory response so I had like all of this energy and focus on the outer world and performance and I was excelling at that but at the same time I wasn't healthy I wasn't integrated my my inner world was not
explored and so I if you asked me how I was doing I would just be fine I would be I would avoid confrontation and certain things because they wanted I didn't know how to deal with the anger or the sadness of the upset like I didn't even know what I was feeling I it was just everything was kind of blank numbed out and so when I discovered and got introduced to the work that I I started doing and teaching for like over 20 years I got introduced through my wife to a man named dr. Donald
Epstein who was a chiropractor and and kind of a innovator in the in the in the field of mind-body and and so I started getting this work called Network Network spinal analysis or Network spinal and that was like my beginning of the journey of like waking up because that particular technique actually was it was a real true expression that what chiropractic was about most people don't know this most people they go to a chiropractor if I throw my back out they kind of crack and pop and move things around mechanically structurally but the foundation of
chiropractic was a metaphysical thing the guy who devote car practic in the late 1800s got in Daniel DD Palmer Daniel David Palmer in 1895 his whole focus with chiropractic was to unite the innate wisdom of the body that would run the show keep you going whether you're in a coma or your life or your you know your whether you're all the functions of your body that are you know beneath the it's a subconscious really and he would he said the goal is to unite that subconscious that innate with the universal forces that are organizing and
running the show so it was a unite spirit with matter based like kind of like just along the conversations of Chi is that the same thing yeah I mean it's it's that chi or energies moving through the nervous system through the body in it and and intelligence and information is moving through this so there's energy and there's information there's two different things so like there's consciousness and there's energy and they're all kind of part the same thing but consciousness needs to express and evolve and if you're binding things up and you're not able to integrate
things that you're feeling things that happen to you injuries emotional psychological stresses energy will bind up in the body because when you are not conscious of something when you're not able to feel it and express it somehow your body will protect it will bind up energy things that are not able to flow freely through will get bound somewhere in the structure of the body because the body is a representation of your consciousness so there's when I got exposed to chiropractic I and I started learning what the roots and the foundation of chiropractic I was like
well this is really wild you know there's there's a whole philosophy here that this what goes way beyond the physical and even goes into the spiritual and so as I started receiving that work I started waking up the very first thing that happened for me was I actually I walked out of the office of work getting work done I was just touching many different points this this work is very very low force but it's very specific and I smelled the flowers as I walked out of the office and I realized in that moment I had
not smelled anything and registered like really a smell which is deep in your limbic system deep in the emotional brain I hadn't smelled anything for I couldn't even remember maybe a decade because I had allergies and asthma everything was clogged up but the whole the emotional system and the ability to integrate this deep information was actually subdued and when I got worked on it started opening up this part of me that that brought something alive that was dormant and from then on everything started opening up and I started feeling emotions expressing emotions I started be
able to move things through my body stirred like getting connected into my inner world and there's a whole bunch of steps to that and processes that I went through I'm happy to share but that was the beginning for me of waking up to a whole inner world that I had no idea I was disconnected from the first place so is this energy world something we can measure or see or feel or is it something that's kind of an intangible it is something you can measure I mean everything is basically the entire universe is energy at
the subatomic level everything is energy so you can measure energy and he energy you can measure energy and electromagnetic energy there's the whole electromagnetic spectrum of frequencies that go from gamma radiation all the way to radio waves and beyond there's this whole spectrum we only register with our you know eyes and our ears in our sensory system a very small like little bandwidth of it but it's there and there's instrumentation that can measure subtle forms of energy there are actually there's a global coherence initiative project that is that is linked into an organization called heart
math that's based out of pretty close to where I live in Boulder Creek of Santa Cruz and there are instruments that are measuring fluctuations in the Earth's electromagnetic field that can actually measure things like like pre and post in the 911 bombing in New York City they measured a global shift in the electromagnetic field of the earth in the time of that of that bombing so we know that there's an effect of human consciousness and emotion on the global electromagnetic field of the earth so there's some stuff going on there most people aren't even aware
of just like the Thais they're influencing our you know the the tidal pull of the moon is influencing gravity of influencing the fluids in our bodies just like it's influencing the tides around us there are forces acting on us that are so much bigger than us and there are instruments that can measure up much of that some of the subtle body and the subtle field can be like there's Karelian photography that can measure though like some somewhat of the subtle field of the body that aura some of that stuff you know people get in tune
they go well that's just a bunch of woowoo you know New Age garber Lee [ __ ] but their science is there now to support that we are a system that is processing subtle energy and the cells and tissues of the body are actually a liquid crystal which a liquid crystal is a form of structure that is fluid and so information can travel through that liquid crystal and in this case it's the it's the connective tissue matrix of the body which is you figured like the connective tissues that go between all the organs and systems
in the muscle groups and the like you think of like the the Faja basically that is a fluid liquid crystalline structure that allows information and energy to travel through it throughout the whole body and it's partly how the emotional system operates there's acoustic waves literary vibrations moving through those tissues that are spreading information all around and when we're processing information we're processing it through our body in various sections of the body so we can be cut off from reasons of our body and energy can't flow freely through those tissues and the brain and body can
be dissociated and we can have stuff that's happened to us that we either knew about and kind of tucked away or we didn't even really register because it happened early in childhood during childbirth and a physical injury or an accident that was maybe happened around the time of a very high emotional stress in our life that we don't realize we still have the charge and energy bound up in the body and we may be trying to like actually exercise our way out of a situation or maybe trying to control it in a way where we
don't actually ever process what was held in those tissues when you start liberating that energy and the body starts having a true resolution and released emotions will come out tension that was stored for years decades sometimes where people just falls away and people can actually experience a freedom that you can't work your way to you have to do it through a resolution or a release and and so that's part a big part of what I'm teaching people how to get it now how much of that is mental and how much of that is physical well
our mind and body is one integrated system so you there's something called somatic intelligence or somatic awareness the ability to articulate to express to feel to sense an emotion or or a feeling through your body we have all kinds of ways of processing information we have kinesthetic visual auditory and then you have your system processing somatic or visceral kind of sensations and so people can have people will take an intense experience of emotion a lot of times and they will they okay so Garry example somebody goes through an experience where there was maybe an abuse
or there was a trauma or they got into a fight a physical fight or something happened where they it was super stressful and intense and they went into fight or flight and the body built up a bunch of tension and when you go into fight or flight your body preps you know for a reaction for survival to run fight or freeze to survive and when you do that the spinal cord inside your spine stretches the nerves stretch they go under tension the breath gets shallow the muscles and tendons start building up energy blood gets shunted
away from the organs and systems and it goes to the muscle groups to get you ready to fight and so your body goes into the super sympathetic / / reactive mode most people end up getting sort of stuck in that mode because like an animal will just like look like you might see a dog or a deer or something they like have a close call you know and then they shake and they're like they're they're processing that they're moving the information to energy through their body as emotion and it's expressing and they're moving on but
most human beings what happens is they have an intense trauma or stress they go into fight or flight and then they don't dissipate that energy so it stays bound up in the body it stays bound up in the spine it stays bound up in the nerve tissues that stays bound up in the connective tissues and the muscles and the tendons in the ligaments and so that the thing that was mentally difficult or challenging that stressed you out like the consideration of like oh my god I don't know what's gonna happen maybe going someone's going through
a divorce or separation maybe they're going through a very tough time at work they're concerned about finances they're they could have matter of fact you could have there's actually research that points to higher incidence of low back pain related to financial stress and job dissatisfaction especially in men then anything mechanically that you can find quote-unquote wrong in the spine itself so you can look at MRIs and x-rays of somebody and you it's more likely that that a person will be experiencing financial stress or relationship or job dissatisfaction and have low back pain then you can
say point to it and say oh it's this disc impinging on this nerve so it's interesting so the mind will be processing something or or dealing with something but the body may be in a stress mode and there could be a disconnect and so nothing is truly mental and nothing is truly just your body it's all integrated and you got to look at the whole system otherwise you're missing a big component of the mine because it isn't really a mind in a body it's a mind body as one you can't separate them out beautiful man
and we all live the life trying to you know mute out our tones of our mind so looking at this kind of objectively from the outside is this just like a higher sympathetic tone that just doesn't dissipate or is it something that's more a little more metaphysical than that well I mean okay so on a physical level because the physical body will express information through it bruce lipton is a is a man who I study with in Chiropractic College is pretty well-known wrote the biology of belief in a bunch of other books he talks about
the neuropeptide network as well as Candace pert another person talked about the neuropeptide network but we know that the cells have receptor sites on the outer you know outer membrane and those receptor sites are proteins that can go into different configurations well you change the physical tension and vibration of those cell tissue in cells and tissues and you change the neuropeptides what neuropeptides can bind to those little receptor sites it's like a little antenna that are vibrating at different frequencies and they'll only pick up certain information so on one level it's it's absolutely physical and
and biochemical and and it's also electromagnetic and it's also vibrational and it's also and it also is metaphysical because there's a physical manifestation but something's triggering the whole thing and we know that there's information coming from without the cell outside of the cells that's acting on us that what the cells DNA actually responds to so our DNA is actually responding to environmental information and then it's generating a certain response we're not just generating everything from inside so there's a two-way street between it's kind of the Creator created where were somehow being you know what nobody
knows exactly how life works like how the heck are we here and how do we have consciousness so somehow there is a expression consciousness through matter and that matters evolving to then experience the world and so we have to look at the whole thing I look at the whole thing as a metaphysical thing I look at the whole thing as a spiritual journey even if you've got like spiritual or oh you know metaphysical this is garble good there's a physical body we got to deal with that physical body well how do you explain when the
body's replaced every five or six years that max all new cells all new tissues everything new that you would have the same injury still persisting like why would there be a why would those new cells not just regenerate perfectly as they were before the injury there's there patterns that get established and somehow we got a look at those patterns and I'm interested in the patterns what are the triggers what are the anchors and how can we unhook some pattern in the body so that the next reiteration or regeneration of your body doesn't have to include
that same pattern that what happens it's like this somebody was let's say they were in a whiplash accident and so happens time time we gotta be working with people and it's like the lower neck and they were in a whiplash accident and it happened right around the time they were in a fight with like an X or they're going through a divorce or whatever and someone runs into them or they run into someone something happens and then they later down the road like seven ten years later they have all these symptoms in this whole like
low low back or lower neck you know degeneration happen and stuff and they're like blame it on the physical accident but there you have to look at the context of the surrounding what are the other things that were going on when that happened because when you're going through a high emotional state your body's in a high tension state you will process information differently you'll also attract different things to happen this is the man the physical part different things will come into your life different experiences will happen when you're less conscious so when their wariness drops
and when your energy state is in a lower energy state you're not in a high connected in a flow State you're not in the zone you're in a stress mode you that's when lower energy and low consciousness actually attracts a different reality and this is the metaphysical part and this is where we get into the mind and the body as once you are you are observing quote-unquote reality as you're projecting it out there through a sensory system that's distorted by different tension patterns and different unintegrated experiences and then you're projecting out a world that's based
on that experience and so there isn't like a world out there just exist that we're moving through we're actually in a co-creative process with reality and how your system is dialed in how connected you are how where you are and how energized you are totally changes the game so things won't even come into your walk if you think about any injury that you had anyone listening if you think about any injury that you ever had there was a significant injury and it's still bothering you or still affecting you and you think back to when that
started or when that came onto the radar whether it was this always just bent over to pick up a piece of paper or I was just in the gym one day and I just did something and it's been persistent for the last you know for the next three or four years it must be a tear it must be this it must be that I can guarantee you if you really get aware and sometimes it takes work on the body to get you aware because your brain just can't associate with it you'll find that there was
something going on at that time in your life on your journey on your path that was a trigger or somehow like you were less aware you were not connected you weren't in the zone you weren't one with your body and and something came in to have to create an opportunity for you to slow down pay attention look at things in a different way and if it's and if you just push through and you try to work your way out of it instead of actually truly resolve it and heal it be kind of like working out
and then never resting and expecting you know your system to be able to really grow you have to everything's in cycles right are you I mean you probably teach and know this better than anyone there's a there's a there's a rhythmical cycle to everything so you you'll realize that there was something that was unintegrated or not dealt with on some level that was anchored into the body and until you do actually resolve or connect somehow to that the energy can't be liberated in the body and no matter how much work you do on the body
if you're not with it and reassociate in with it it will be persistent so this is where people get caught up in these in these situations where they're trying to like fix this thing and they're treating the body as like a separate thing that God why is this going on I got to fix this it's like wait a minute that's you and that's a part of you you just need to connect with so John somebody walks into your office today where do you start well first I want to get I want to find out where
some their awareness I want to find out how connected they are to their body I want to find out how connected they are to their emotions I want to find out if their worldview allows them to incorporate into what's going on relationships their relationship with their self if they how they treat their body and talk about their body is their body like a separate entity to them or is their body something that is their one with that their consciousness and their body is one and they can have a dialogue and an interaction with their body
and not just treat it as something to try to follow what they're like an appendage of the mind I want to find that out because I want to find out where we're starting do we need to start with let's just get you connected to your body because anything we talk about it's going to be it's gonna be in some ways a waste of time and energy because you're not even aware that you're not aware so we're gonna see where is someone in there speculating somewhere that comes to you though is probably gonna have a high
level of awareness right they're not gonna seek you out and be completely unaware yeah yeah at this point I mean most of the people that are we're coming to see me are are pretty high highly aware people but even those people there's always gonna be gaps that we all are gonna have gaps in our awareness so we can be very integrative if you do an amazing work in personal development the amazing work with their body be eating right we could be doing all the right you know things cutting out the bad things doing all the
good things and there can still be blocks I mean there could be something from it could be something from birth you know they you you were in utero and your mother while she was going through something and it got encoded into your cells and tissues and like what can you do about that right so there could be something that's like a condition pattern that's running the show that has a physical anchor that you don't even know about so how much do you do that with your stood with your well if you pay I mean what
I'll do is I'll talk to them a little bit get context to see and then I just know so I can work on something without talking to them and I could tell them all kinds of things and I could I could just I'll know what's going on because I worked with thousands and thousands of thousands of people and I've seen all these patterns but so I would just know I don't need to even talk to someone I just know but at the same time I want to communicate to you in a way that's meaningful so
I want to figure out where is someone's awareness so that when I communicate with them we and we can have a dialogue that makes sense based on their level of awareness understanding and their goals and objectives and so many times Tillman's goals and objectives are one thing and what is really going on and what you really needed is something else but we need to like build a bridge right I'm sure if you're working with someone and you know they want to build muscle and they want a body builder they want to power lift or whatever
they want to do and they say I want to do this and you're like okay so you want this but what you really need is this and you take them on a journey that ultimately gets them probably beyond where they want to go or in a totally different direction but it's so much better for them and they're happier so I got to look at that and see what's going to best serve this person and how can I help them hit the goals or exceed the goals because where they were coming from the level of awareness
it was missing a whole component or piece that made what they were trying to do either impossible or from that level of consciousness or that level of energy or it becomes irrelevant when they upgrade or up level to another level and suddenly the thing that they thought they were like oh my god that was so silly that was such small thinking I was like I was in this place of you know collapse I didn't even know it and I was trying so hard this ties into what these energy states that came out of I'll acknowledge
Epstein fort for his his terminology and his way of seeing this is that there are different energy states I talked about this a little bit on Dave Asprey interview that you can be in a very low energy state where the system is in a in a like it's they have to do with entropy and the way the universe basically works this it's not metaphysical stuff this is like this is energy and how it works in the physical universe if the system doesn't have enough energy available to regrow and regenerate it will start breaking down and
just like if you light a piece of wood on fire once the bonds are broken and the energy is released that can't maintain the structure of wood so it's gonna fall apart it's gonna turn to ash which is a I don't know it's at a lower energy state but that energy was liberated and released out into the environment so that's how we die ultimately we break down when we can no longer keep the system out even at a baseline level the system starts breaking down and we die most people are are not there because you're
in serious crisis and you're an illness and you're cancer or whatever it is that's going on when you're into that mode most people are more neutral they're energetically neutral and that means they have enough energy to do their life they can go to the gym they can workout they can eat the right foods they can do their meditation they can do all the quote/unquote right things but they just have enough energy to get through they don't have extra energy to contribute or they don't have extra energy to really grow beyond so they kind of like
on this wheel where they get stuff on this cycle where they're just like working really hard and there's effort involved and everything so pretty good but it's not like flowing in a total zone where everything's manifesting and flowing to you easily when you and I know someone like you knows that zone because when you're in it everything is just effortless easy and things are coming to you people are like showing up people are like I'm what they want to give you money they want to give you opportunities like everyone wants to like they're just like
attracted to that and you are manifesting a high level that's energy rich we call it that's a state when you have more energy available flowing through your body and in the field around you it's actually it's rippling out in a way that people get caught up in that and they get influenced by it and they get uplifted by it and in that state you don't get drained as you're giving and so that energy rich state is is is key to manifestation it's key to sustaining a high a high level in life and it once you
hit it once you're there and you learn how to like actually sustain that you don't have to work as hard you'll you'll you'll you'll actually work harder than you ever work but it'll be easier because you're so excited and passionate and passion by what you're doing you just want to do more of it but it's not draining you because you have to it's ok threshold like when water boils and it turns to vapor at a certain temperature threshold boom it changes form that's what happens in life when the system is an energy rich state boom
all of a sudden like you're in this elevated place and that that's where we're talking about the elevate and elevating your life and and and what that means is is operating at that higher energy state where everything is elevate is brought out man I absolutely know what you're talking about I've been there certain points in my life certainly not always one of the things you brought up was you know when people come into your office you kind of see it like you kind of be seen you've seen so many people now you got to see
it now do you physically see patterns in people or is it like you actually actually visually see something that you know what I'm looking for is is if people have particular physical manifestations is it always the same emotional cause they're a pattern that will show up and so they're there we call them like phases they're actually vibrational just distortions in the nervous system in the central nervous system is they see the central nervous system attaches into your neck and tailbone as the brain exits out the cranium goes down through the frame and Magnum and down
through the center of the spinal column there's a covering that covers the whole brain called the meninges and it covers the whole brain and nerve and central nervous system inside your spine well that is actually physically attaches into the first five or six maybe seven vertebra in your neck and then it also attaches down at the tailbone and when changes in tension happen there because of different stress patterns they set up certain it's like a guitar it you hold down a certain fret it changes the resonance or a string well if you hold down the
atlas vertebra or the c5 or c7 vertebrae or the coccyx area it changes though that don't the tension on the on the tone and it changes the expression of of information in the body and so those patterns are felt physically so I'll just scan some I can feel it before I even touch somebody because they have a certain resonance in their whole energetic field so part of it is like it has a certain vibrational resonance that I can feel energetically before I even touch when I'm interacting it's like you can feel when someone's totally in
it in a very lack needy above not in an abundant flowing state and they're just in a in a kind of collapse mode not kind of an energy sucker mode you could people can feel this you're like well I can feel that person who wants something and they're in a get-get-get mode like nothing you know there's no like contribution going on that's a certain pattern that will involve the coccyx tucking under and the lower neck kind of tucking down so there'll be a physical anchor to every single energetic pattern and they show up in the
body so I can feel and yes I can feel whether someone's going into like not feeling just like rational analytical and they just disconnect from their you know physical body and their feelings and emotions that has a certain pattern shows up around the upper neck there's another pattern where people get stuck in the like concern about the future and everything is about concerned about the future or anxiety other times it's the past they get stuck in the past other times it has to do with identity and like roles and responsibilities and shoulds and duties and
they get all distorted in their pelvis there are different anchor points in the body and those are associated with patterns and those are across the board no matter what culture no matter what people those are predictable patterns that you can see over and over again and so I'll know within moments like oh here's the pattern that's a criminal this is the this is what will be going on in some of these life are tied into that and this ties into then you can say well there's involvement of those slower chakras or there's the involvement of
you know sir other energetic aspects of the system but just on a physical level it's right there the information it's like a map so you're literally looking at somebody and going hey I already know what's wrong with you emotionally before you even have to open your mouth yeah they may not even know they may not even know an MRI already know because I've seen that pattern it's like if you if you cut down trees for a living in you see you know 10,000 trees and and and you look at the rings of the trees and
you can tell within a few minutes like oh there was a you know infestation of beetles that year there was a drought or a fire that year there was a huge growth spurt that year you start to see the layers and you go okay that was going on well the same thing with the body it will express certain things so if somebody had a surgery or they had a c-section or they had an epidural injection or they had cancer and they had you know they had a disk injury they had you know an any number
of things I felt thousands of those so it's like you start to feel oh that's the pattern that's what it feels like over and over again so now I just touch somebody's body and I and I know pretty well almost sometimes exactly - like the Year something happened because it's like I said with the tree you kind of go through the layers and you go oh this is like this many layers the muscle system will like hold density patterns and they have certain resonance and certain drugs I can tell what drugs somebody's taken because they
have a certain resonance in the body so if someone smokes a lot part they drink a lot it
