So, if you had a question about, let's say, whether a grant was violative of um or had DEI in it, for instance, or was a borderline call, how would you get clarity on how to deal with that? Justin and I made a personal judgment call and then reviewed that judgment call with Mike and with Adam. Okay.
Do you have any history in like let's say scholarly peer review? No. Okay.
So, but this judgment call was made by you and your personal judgment combined with Justin's personal judgment to cancel grants based on DEI. Yes. Okay.
Do you think it's inappropriate in any way that someone in their 20s with no experience with grants or federal government was making personal judgment calls about what grants to cancel? Objection. Um, no.
I don't think it's inappropriate. Okay. Why not?
Um, I think a person can have enough judgment from reading books and being well informed outside of traditional experience to make judgment calls about obvious things like a grant that literally lists DEI in its description to know whether it violates an executive order. I don't think you need to be have a scholarly peer review background to do that. Okay.
So, presumably you read some of these books that would have informed you on how to cancel a grant based on DEI. Objection. Um I did not read a book um on how to discern whether a grant includes DEI or not.
I read the actual description of the actual grant. Okay. You just I'm sorry.
I'm saying books because you said books. What books would you have read that would have informed your opinion on what grants to cancel based on DEI or there there were no books? Okay.
So, there are no books. Anything else that would have informed you on how to do this? Um, no.
Just kind of your whims, I guess. Is that what you're saying? Objection.
Um, they're not my whims. They're it's my judgment of how to interpret a grant that includes DEI characteristics or our wasteful spend.
