[Music] bada bing badao they say the house picks you once the house is chosen there's really no escaping you're a prisoner of that house until it decides to let you go that's what the neighbors say anyway when they walk past that baby pink colored pastel Mansion address one 121 the pink house there's a giant fence that surrounds the entire property it's made out of iron and stone it looks Honestly it looks a little daunting that fence is like a prison wall it's always locked they want to keep people out but you do know how doors
work right it also keeps people in it keeps in all those little secrets that are best not let out into the public who are the neighbors talking about why are they talking about the pink house there's only two people that live in the pink house outside the pink house there is a plaque on the gate it's a sign that reads Tom Thomas was Tom Thomas one of the residents there no he was killed in there the house chose a new owner I guess you could say kids would also start trading stories about the pink house
they would run around screaming a lot of them would hold their breath past the house because it was almost this little curse of if you breathe when you walk past the pink house they're going to suck the soul out of you but once they're in a safe enough distance they would poke fun did you Know that if you're quiet enough you can still hear the baby crying what baby the baby of the guy that lives there the baby died the adult neighbors they're no better they'll walk past that house drop their voice the priest told
the family if they want to live they need to cut down that haunted tree apparently the roots of the tree they go all the way into the ground and then the branches start following all of the evil spirits and then they sprout out from the trunk Of the tree now I heard it was the well that well is like a portal to hell it goes all the way down into the depths of the earth and they say that if you stand at the very edge of the well and you bend over look down you peer
over the edge for a little too long a hand is going to reach up and snatch you by your hair and drag you down under but the only thing scarier than the Paranormal is the priest told the family if they don't put a wall around the well three People are going to die in that house so fence the well in the middle yes otherwise three people are going to die he was wrong three people would not die six people would six and it wasn't haunted there was a serial killer in the [Music] family we would
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now as always full show notes are available rotten mango podcast.com before we get started there are a few quick disclaimers for today's case it is important to note that everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty in the court of law and as of right now there have been no official sentencing of the suspects charged the trial remains ongoing we've also changed a few names in this case but the alleged Killer's names remain the same the Majority of the sources were available in English but some of them were still translated so as always with any International
cases or really any case at all please let us know if there was anything miscommunicated mistranslated or any additional information that you might have down in the comments so with that being said just an additional reminder everything is alleged there have been no convictions we will discuss the many theories towards the end of This episode but this is the story that the family members including the sons of the killer as well as the prosecutors believe has taken place so with that being said let's get into that version of the story do you know what a
logged house mystery is yes no no in no out exactly to put it simply it's when someone dies in a house with no signs of forced entry or Breakin so meaning every resident every guest in that house is suddenly a suspect The Pink House would have its own locked house mystery it's a typical locked house scenario you've got a limited number of suspects they're all somewhat interpersonally connected with the victim a confined space and then a death but in the pink house there was an open door policy anyone was to come and go as they
please and in the middle of this giant celebration someone screams I'm going to die the lights shut off and suddenly every guest every caterer every Neighbor extended family friends everyone is a suspect it just becomes that much more complicated because you don't know who slipped in and out unnoticed you don't the timeline is fuzzy to place every single person in which room what they had access to what they were doing what if they were lying about what they're doing all of this gets even more messy when the authorities don't even realize it's murder until a
decade later The Pink House resident list consist of the Thomas family the Thomas parents Ann and Tom and their adult children and a grandson but for 10 days I mean the pink house was absolute chaos The Pink House would be open to any and all guests known or unknown to the family during the Festival of onam celebrations meaning anybody who needs a place to be was more than welcome to be at The Pink House now this is not really something that's Out of the norm for the area Festival of onam is a 10-day celebration that
is literally based off of community the collective human spirit it's literally time for everyone to get together come find strength within one another guest are shuffling in and out of the house I mean the kitchen is packed with people trying to push past each other to finish their little dish there's people washing cutting vegetables measuring ingredients just these massive mounds of bright Orange carrots on the kitchen island green beans piled high in the little colanders in the living room men are setting up chairs and tables they're arranging the seating they're hanging up the flower decorations
for the Festival of onam that's what it's known for some of the kids are tasked with laying out banana leaves on the table so first you need to find large fresh green unblemished banana leaves then you have to give them a good rinse Pat them dry With a clean cloth or you let them air dry when it comes to placing them on the table you want it positioned so that the tip of the leaf the pointer is pointing towards the left to the person that who will be eating from it cuz it's going to serve
as a plate so it's all organized it all points to the left when it comes to arranging the food on the Banana Leaf typically salt is placed at the left corner of the leaf pickles and Chutney Go on the top right main dishes go straight in the center and then the various side dishes go around the entree and it's so fascinating because the veins of the Banana Leaf keep from all of the juices merging together August 22nd 2002 Leela Thomas is in the pink house kitchen she's cooking she's listening to the loud conversations in the
dining room she's yelling at the kids hey put the Banana Leaf down Leela is interrupted by her Mom an an Thomas who walks into the kitchen and she grabs a glass of water she doesn't look good Leela's kind of worried about her but her mom just shakes her off it's fine it's fine I'm just I think it's fatigue it's been so loud in the house with this non-stop music during the celebrations I'm just going to go lay in my room Leela nods but she's a little concerned in the past few weeks alone her mom has
already been hospitalized twice each time the doctors Did not have a precise answer for what was wrong they would send Anne back home with some holistic medicine and they would just hope for the best Leela her daughter is not hopeful she thought about stopping mid recipe but another family member walks into the kitchen and starts prepping a bowl of soup I'm going to bring some soup up to Mom so Leela goes back to her dish but the more she cooks the more she starts feeling this like nagging sense of unease she's like I can't do
it anymore I'm not even focusing on my cooking she wipes her hands on the apron decides to go check up on her mom it's been about 20 minutes since soup has been brought up to her she just wants to check and see if her mom made it is she okay is she taking a nap Leela is weaving through all the people in The Busy house she walks upstairs to her mom's room and it is the strangest sight her mom an is laying on the bed leaning up against a window and She just has silently tears
streaming down her face oh my God what happened call everyone I'm going to die Leela runs out of the room she's trying to get everybody's attention or at least the attention of somebody that can help her but the music is so loud so instead of finding each stereo turning down the music Leela runs to shut the power off of the house the lights go off hurry someone help Me the Thomas Brothers they can recognize their little sister's voice from anywhere they could also tell this is serious so they rush to the sound of Leela's voice
they run into their mom and's room following Leela's lead and their mother is laying there convulsing her body is jerking around she tries to grab at her adult children I can't breathe I'm dying mother Anne is quickly taken to the hospital there was a white frog y substance that is coming out of Her mouth she's literally foaming at the mouth within 5 minutes the doctors pronounced her dead and a little five4 tall woman softs spoken with big round eyes gets out of the jeep that drove an to the hospital she walked straight up to the
doctors who just pronounced her dead it was a heart attack wasn't it yeah I mean just moments before she collapsed she's complaining of chest pains so if you if you knew the family tree intimately you could potentially Recognize that she was Anne's distant niece by way of marriage but if you're like the doctors if you're like you and you don't know the giant Thomas family Tree you would ask and what's your relation to the deceased oh right I'm her daughter-in-law I'm married to her son Roy so they're they're cousins wait a minute hold on this
is an's niece but also her daughter-in-law oh an's son married his cousin his cousin by marriage yeah oh okay yeah when it comes To talking about someone okay there's two ways people go about it when they're around it's all smiles oh Roy he he's a gentle kind soul I mean he's a bit introverted that's all very shy or two when you don't think anyone is listening Roy's a loser lazy too yeah that's what the neighbor said about Roy we have no way of knowing which version is true but we do know that on paper Roy
and his cousin shaju they have a lot in common they're both shy and introverted they Mainly keep to themselves I mean make of that what you will right they both grew up in well-off families their parents were the financially stable ones neither of them had this intense crazy pressure to work and they would both make a single decision that would destroy their families it would set off a chain of events that would kill their closest family members one by one until six of them are dead both of them would marry their Cousins Roy's cousin Shu
I mean he must have known to some degree about the deaths in The Pink House everyone in town is Whispering about how cursed the house is there's no way that he missed it how could he not it's literally his cousin side of the family that are dying in there it's like his aunt it's his uncle they're dying it was always a thought that crossed his mind though maybe the family's cursed but if he's just my cousin that means means I'm not Cursed though right like whatever dark entities are cursing that family technically The Pink House
they're the Thomases I'm a Zacharia so that that means the curses are attached to names aren't they besides it's not like he even lives in The Pink House May 1st 2014 the curse would move into shaju's home shaju had lost his aunt an Uncle Tom cousin Roy Uncle Manny they all died mysteriously and now he was going to lose one of his Own and it seems like now the curse is deciding which one of shaju's loved ones to take his wife silly his 10-year-old son or his sickly two-year-old daughter just like at the party of
The Pink House the day that Anne died shaju threw a party as well at his house it's a communion celebration for his 10-year-old son there's hundreds of people shuffling in and out throughout the day and at the center of this party Is not his son but rather his 2-year-old daughter Aline she's running around like a tornado she's being passed from from Auntie to Auntie because her parents are so busy with their big brother's big day and near the end of the celebrations she's running laps around these adults and they're like it's time for some food
like you got to sit down and you got to eat your dinner her aunt sits her down grabs a piece of bread dips it into the curry here bite chew slowly and make Sure to swallow Aline Smiles before she takes that bite and then runs off again with the other kids to play Aline you come back here you need to eat Aline would find her way back to her aunt's lap another piece of bread ripped off dipped in curry and placed in front of her mouth bite chew swallow but the minute that that bite hits
her throat Aline starts coughing and screaming her parents rush over they're so embarrassed I mean she'd always been kind of a picky Eater but even so I mean this is like a tantrum that she's throwing it's a little bit out of character they're thinking if she doesn't eat now she's only going to get more and more hungry and more and more cranky throughout the day so they strike a deal with the 2-year-old the on leans down and says one more bite and you can go play all you want Aline she takes one more bite bread
Curry bite chew swallow Aline would be Hospitalized immediately and she would be dead in 3 days the doctor said the cause of death was choking shaju wouldn't find out until years later that it was murder So within those 2 years shaju is just trying to comfort his devastated wife silly and he's trying to be the stable figure for his son he's too busy he's swept up by all this grief that he doesn't even think about the family curse he doesn't even think about the Pink house anymore if he had just taken a single moment just
to think a little bit longer a tiny bit deeper maybe he would have seen that there's one person that is at the center of all of the family tragedies first the tragedies in the pink house and now his and one more would die in his family but this would be someone that he and his wife would L into their own home they would welcome this person with open arms like Family Leela Thomas had moved out of the pink house I mean she can't really bear to be there anymore not after everything that's happened anyway back
when she was a kid she would run around the giant tree in the yard with all of her two older brothers Roy and Arnav they would chase her around threatening to stick a caterpillar on her she would Escape into her room and she would just lay down with the book open and the afternoon sun would hit her and she would just feel so Sleepy and by the time that she wakes up from her nap it's dinner time her parents an and Tom Thomas they would always have the neighbors over for dinner I mean it's customary
open door policy at the pink house so this giant gate surrounding the entire property it was never locked that was when they were kids the three Thomas siblings Roy Arnav and Leela they'd all grown up and of the five Thomas members only two of them are still alive it's like the house is Eating people alive once you step foot into that pink house it grips onto you it decides whether or not it wants to let you go let you leave or if it wants to keep you forever it wants to plant you with the tree
and for years Leela had no idea is this a curse of the family are we just unlucky is it the house is there like I don't know toxic mold infesting the house because why are three people dying in there she's trying to bend over backwards thinking of any Sort of reasoning behind why her whole family left her so early but now now she has the evidence in her hands she knows exactly what killed her family or rather she knows who killed her family and right now there are two people inside of the pink house that
Leela needs to save she calls her nephew hello where are you right now are you in the house hurry go take a piece of clothing or a bed sheet and stuff it in your mouth and your brother's mouth avoid falling asleep Don't eat anything don't drink water or anything from inside of that house do you hear me I'm on my way right now hurry right now are you getting the bed sheet are you Leela is already in her car when she hears knocking on the other side of the car she can hear her nephew Remo
opening the door to his bedroom and him saying why are you standing here are you trying to listen to me what are you trying to hear Leela realizes the Killer is standing Outside her nephew's bedroom door and then the line goes dead the voice speaking to Remo on the other side of the line is muted it's a little muffled Leela didn't hear every single word that was said but she had never been more sure of anything in her whole life her brother Roy had not taken his own life life her brother Roy was killed Leela's
nephew Remo remembers that night so well he woke up from a deep sleep his eyes were squinting from the light and he's Confused why are the lights on in the bedroom he glances out the window oh my God it's still dark outside why are the lights on and then from his peripheral vision he sees someone and he almost jumps out of his own skin oh my God Auntie what are you doing here she's sitting in a chair spine stiff as a board she's slightly leaning forward as if she had been waiting for him to wake
up this whole time her lips are just like in a thin straight line and she Glances at Remo's little brother Reynolds he's still asleep Remo quickly catches on and gently nudges his brother awake okay okay wake up what's going on Auntie is something wrong your father slipped and fell in the bathroom your mother and your uncle Manny are taking him to the hospital right now what Remo's trying to shake off the sleepiness from his mind like what do you what do you mean he slipped and fell in the bathroom what is he okay he gets
Up from his bed with with his brother and they follow his aunt down to the ground floor someone set up a framed photo of their father on the table and it was surrounded by these candles and flowers is this like a show of support or something is it for like a prayer he would learn that day that it was an altar their dad gets taken to the hospital and someone sets up an altar like they don't know if he's dead is that what's going on seems like the Timing doesn't make sense it doesn't seem like
they know that he's dead so someone set it up ahead of time yeah their dad was dead the kids initially thought okay maybe it's a trip and fall in the bathroom did he hit his head on the tub but eventually they were told it's a self exit that's what their mother Roy's wife told them I mean who are they not to believe her that's their mom I mean really who who would question her Leela Thomas didn't even question Her but now now she's got all the proof she has her brother's autopsy in her hands cherry
red skin small hemorrhages in the skin a distinct bitter almond smell everything that knew from the night of the murder was wrong the night of Roy's death Roy had just come home from a night out with his cousin Matthew it's a Friday night so he's expected a late night home likely he would swing open the door into the pink house and his wife and two young Sons would be Watching the TV in the living room that's what he's thinking but when he walks in it's unusually quiet the lights are off in the living room he
checks in the kitchen there's just a bowl of rice and chickpea Curry waiting for him next to a tall glass of water Roy MK he takes a seat at the table I mean his wife is always thinking about him just thinking ahead to the fact that he might be hungry when he gets home his mouth starts watering I mean the roasted Coconut the sauteed onions and garlic the chickpeas Curry leaves the combination is like the perfect balance of spicy citrusy it's a little bit nutty Roy digs his spoon into the curry takes a mouthful he
would spend the rest of the night in the bathroom I mean strange he'd always been one that can handle the spice rather well Jolly wakes up up to the sound of a gurgle a sort of wet splattering sound that sounds like it's coming from deep inside someone's throat Like if you're Garling mouthwash but also simultaneously choking on it and then it turns into this very strong wretching noise it sounds violent like the person's stomach is trying to turn itself inside out the sound is wet almost viscous the gagging the wretching the heaving Jolly opens her
eyes straining her ears to hear more then she gets up calmly walks to the kitchen passing the med cabinet heads over to the table where she spots her husband's Half eaten Curry she can hear the clear distinct sound of someone vomiting the splattering sound and it just keeps going on forever and then the sound of someone trying to catch their breath before it starts all over again that's what she hears she reaches out Scoops up the half touched bowl of Curry and the empty water gloss brings them over to the kitchen sink and starts doing
the dishes she makes Shar to scrub and rinse every bit of that Curry off she's wiping The plates dry she's placing them back in the cabinet jol's always like to keep a tidy house that's what perfect wives do I mean all the while like a perfect wife she kept her ears strained for Roy's continued gasping and wretching in the bathroom wait what was that she stops she wipes her hands on her night gown and she walks to the bathroom she puts her ear up to the door and she's just listening she crinkles her eyebrows and
She's trying to understand what's going on on the other side she's glancing at the staircase to make sure that neither of their sons are walking down the stairs and 15 minutes later Jolly finally hears exactly what she was listening for silence her husband Roy Thomas was dead in the bathroom Jolly calls for help and then she faints neighbors and family members rush Into the house I mean they had to break down the bathroom door and once they did they find Roy Thomas father of two husband of Jolly first son of the Thomas family of The
Pink House dead but it wasn't just that he was found dead his mouth was open and there was a foam like a white frothy substance spilling out of it before Roy Thomas could even be declared dead which he would be very quickly The Whispers already start traveling around the town did you hear The oldest of the Thomas siblings he died I mean just suddenly they're saying it's a heart attack he's only 40 poor jolly and their two boys still so young Leela heard those Whispers too she rushed home that night that her brother passed but
also she heard other conversations take place private ones she saw Jolly faint and family members huddling in a corner they're trying to keep their tones hushed so that Jolly doesn't hear Roy had always been a big Drinker and it had only gotten worse lately there was also that black magic stuff that apparently he was into Jolly said that he had debts like thousands of dollars of debt and it's it's pretty obvious he took his own life well we're just going to have to tell her everyone that it was a heart attack if the town finds
out that he self- exited leaving his wife and children with his debt it's going to tarnish the family name the boys are already traumatized as it is Why would we put them through that and at the time Leela believed it it kind of made sense even Leela helped keep everything under wraps and she would repeat the family cover he had a heart attack it was unfortunate genetic heart condition might run in the family we miss him Oho very much jol's doing her best to raise her children as a single mom but over time as Leela
keeps repeating the story she realizes with each retelling she believes it less and Less three deaths in The Pink House what are the odds her mom then her dad and then her brother she requested his autopsy time of death 11:20 p.m. stomach contents Curry and rice undigested cause of death cyanide poisoning lless hands grip the paper her mind is racing wait wait no she had a conversation with jolly the night of Roy's death she remembers it so Viv ly I mean yeah she's thick in her grief and shock at that time but she remembered it
Because it's important jolet told her Roy came home at around 300 p.m. for lunch he had Curry and rice then at night he said that he wasn't hungry so I went to the kitchen to fry up some eggs and that's when he walked into the restroom when I was done I tried to get him to come out but he wouldn't even open the bathroom door she had said that but that doesn't make any sense it doesn't match up with the autopsy results the autopsy stated that his Death was 11:20 p.m. there were undigested food in
in his stomach Curry and rice but Jolly had told her that he ate the curry around 300 p.m. there's no way it would still be undigested at the time of his death so why on Earth would she lie about something like that about what he had for dinner or what time he ate because cyanide cyanide takes effect almost instantly after exposure Leela did think it was odd that her brother would choose to self exit with cyanide It's a very difficult to obtain poison and it feels like utter hell to ingest like why would he do
that to himself Leela's mind starts racing and she's putting two and two together if Roy hadn't eaten dinner and just lunch the food in his stomach would have already been digested but it wasn't the food had to have been eaten later for dinner but Jolly said he didn't have dinner she said at night he didn't have dinner at night he didn't have dinner at Night he didn't have dinner Leela remembered her repeating the same story to every single person that she met Leila was racing to the pink house to get her nephews out of there
before it was too late because the killer the Killer is in the house with them it was their own mother Jolly she screamed into the phone do not eat anything under any circumstances there might be cyanide in your house your mother might try to kill You Leela remembers all the love letters that her brother received her brother Roy they were probably somewhere inside of that pink house they were full of flattery Promises of the future and at the end of each letter was a signature Jolly Joseph with cute little Loop letters and hearts everything ended
with jolly Leela had already gone to the police by this point she turned in everything that she could as evidence she rushes to her old Family Home and When she gets there her nephews I mean the entire house is a mess there is insects everywhere dirty dishes rotting food the smell is pungent Leela barely notices she rushes into her nephew's room bring only what's important to you quickly we have to go as they're leaving the sky flashes bright lightning and then boom Thunder strikes so how long after was this like the m mom dad husband
all died in like what kind of time span 6 years so it's a long long Process she would not be caught for 14 years and when was Leela like trying to get the kids out 14 years later since her mom's death oh this is like complete out of the blue yeah type of because of a funeral oh okay yeah we're going to get into it so Thunder strikes Leela stops momentarily at the gates of The Pink House The Pink House it used to always remain unlocked I mean it would welcome anyone in for a warm
meal or a place to Stay every Christmas The Pink House used to turn into this pink and green color because of the Christmas lights it used to be a home but now the place looks abandoned and Sinister more than anything else like the pink house was where most of her family members had died and everything started and ended with jolly Leela looks back at the gate and then at the sky and she says I did what I could it was a message for her family they Were all dead Jolly had killed almost all of them
but Leela felt like they could hear her they were with her they were encouraging her to take Jolly down her mom her dad her brother her uncle baby Aline and even silly silly gets up from the bed when she hears the front door ring she looks over at the calendar hanging on the wall it had been 2 years since her baby Aline had died in a freak choking accident at her son's party 2 years of just her feeling like a zombie Just shuffling around moving around people trying to smile so that other people feel comfortable
around you and trying to regain some sort of control over life silly was trying to get pregnant again she thought maybe if I have another girl maybe Aline would live inside of her you know she would live on but even that wasn't working out she had been on holistic medicines to keep up her chances but her body was weak she had been hospitalized a few times since Her daughter's death which initially she thought it was stress or perhaps depression but she presented the same symptoms as her baby girl difficulty swallowing stomach burning Headache nausea it's
like baby alfine was trying to tell her something from the grave or maybe she was upset with her mom for letting this happen regardless cely gets up walks to the door her friend was supposed to come over that day and try to cheer her up she was really the only Support system that silly had it doesn't get rid of any of the pain but it it does help her feel not to alone she turns the lock to the front door opens it wide and smiles softly hey Jolly it was a small gathering some people would
argue it's a family gathering but that's besides the point jol's there moving through the crowd smiling and nodding I mean even after everything that she's been through her first husband Roy dead mysteriously and Now she's a single mom of two it sucks even after all that tragedy though Jolly is still able to try and be jolly she's bright and she's got the ability to talk to anybody and hold a gripping conversation but today she seems distracted if you were in a conversation with her she would keep looking away and then her eyes would follow someone
from across the room while you're talking to her and she uh-huh yeah no I've never been there before she slides up to her Relative I want to marry someone like him what look at him he's so peaceful calm she's motioning her head towards shaju Zacharias 's relative is a little bit shocked I mean confused really because everyone at the Gathering knew that shaju was married and had two children of his own but not only that shaju is technically technically jol's cousin but that's a technicality right he's not really her blood cousin and Technically she's done
It before when she married her first husband Roy Roy was jol's cousin by marriage they got married Roy died mysteriously shaju is Roy's cousin and now Jolly wants to marry her deceased husband hb's cousin but since her deceased husband was her distant cousin she married her cousin then met her cousin's cousin Roy Thomas was the firstborn son of the Thomas family the Thomas parents I mean they had been going down a mental Checklist of all the potential wives for Roy that they recently saw they never got around to playing Matchmaker just quite yet but they
knew that the clock is ticking he's got to get married soon they know that they just didn't know that Roy would walk into the pink house with a woman standing next to him ready to introduce her hi Mom and Dad I'd like you to meet my fiance Roy's parents are staring at him like he sprouted a second head son that is your cousin the first Time jolly and Roy met was at a family function as well but they didn't know that they were cousins at that point so again technically they're not blood cousins they're cousins
by marriage through Uncle Manny Uncle Manny is Roy's blood Uncle his mom's brother Uncle Manny is also Jolly's Uncle because he married jol's aunt I mean does that does that happen usually you think I I think it's not encouraged for sure I I'm sure it does Happen and I'm sure it can be love and technically it's not I don't know genetically does that I don't think so I think it just makes it a little bit confusing I don't think it's bad I wouldn't necessarily cast judgment it's just a little I think it'd be interesting to
adjust for the whole family so for this case it was like huh did you know she married technically her cousin yeah and then would marry her cousin's cousin so there's a lot going On so Uncle Manny and Roy blood relations Uncle Manny and jolly family relations through marriage both jolly and Roy were invited to Uncle Manny's housewarming where they walked in and there were just likely coconuts everywhere coconuts are one of the more popular housewarming gifts in India it's supposed to bring good luck and positive energy into the home they're hovering over a table of
coconuts staring into each other's eyes and it's love at first Sight they try to fight it because you know their cousins but after countless late night secret phone calls and these little love letters that they would write to each other's houses there was no denying it they were going to get married and live happily ever after not as cousins but as husband and wife Roy's parents stared at Roy and jolly who are now sitting on their living room couch Tom Thomas is like No what do you mean no no yeah I mean no Tom Thomas
Roy's dad did not like this even a little bit an the mom on the other hand she's quiet the whole time she was thinking and a teacher which side note obviously being a teacher anywhere is a big deal and you're literally guiding the future Generations but in India it's a bit more of a prestigious job than the US it's a lot harder of a position to get and teachers are often referred to as gurus of India So while teachers in the US are appreciated they might not be as respected as teachers in India so like
keep that in mind now Tom was also in the education field he was an officer for the state's education department for the local Town everyone comes to this couple for advice that's why they have an open door policy but in the pink house when it's just them Tom turns to an she's the matriarch of the family and Tom would wait for Anne's word I like Her every true question that Anne had set up for Jolly to trip on she passed what do your parents do for work again oh they're humble Farmers but they're well respected
in our town for their unwaver in dedication to the Harvest and of course their hard work what about school I was the first in my family to attend college I graduated with a masters of Commerce that's basically a master's degree in Business it is very very impressive a higher degree than Roy Their own son an could see herself having intellectually stimulating conversations with jolly I mean both of them are headstrong independent women who have a vision of their own that's separate from men and they could be the guiding future for all the other girls in
their small town to freaking go after what they want with such aggression that men will step out of the way for you and could see them getting along really well she smiled at Jolly meanwhile Jolly Smiled back and she looked around at the spacious living room the servants preparing tea for them in the kitchen ushering it over placing it in front of Jolly to drink the minute that she's done and that empty teacup lands on the coffee table it's whisked back away into the kitchen not a single dirty teacup lingering on the coffee table or
any surface of this house she smiles back at Anne because she could see herself living here with all The staff tending to her every need she felt right at home already unfortunately there is only room for one head of the house if there were guidelines like a rule book on being the best daughter-in-law Jolly could have written it the rules are technically endless but if you had to nail at least four of the crucial ones you'd be set one be the family therapist listen to everyone's problems and offer not the best advice offer the advice
that they want to hear Jolly was even winning Tom over with this role he's coming around and seeing her as a confidant an asset to the Thomas family an asset to The Pink House two never be disagreeable but always get your way the art of gentle manipulation and persuasion mom mother-in-law you have such a classic Timeless sense of style I mean this floral arrangement is incredible but I I did see a similar one at Valerie's party the other day and I was thinking maybe we could add some More modern touches to really showcase how you
always set the trends for everyone in the town you lead and the town follows three learn to cook an unforgettable dish mother I'm telling you you have not lived until you've tried my mutton soup I've got a secret blend of spices that warm you from the inside out I mean it's positively to die for and four be resourceful and solve problems before they arise oh and Probably the most important rule like it's so important it doesn't even need a spot on the list is secure your place in the family and be the one to carry
on the family name Jolly Joseph was pregnant with the Thomas' very first grandbaby an is smiling down at her newborn grandbaby a grandson she looks up at Jolly with just so much pride In Her Eyes you did so good you handled that birth perfectly I am so proud of you Jolly gives her mother-in-law a weak Smile back I mean she had done it she she had really done it she could have asked for anything more I mean it was just right the timing too it was perfect Ann had been nagging her to get a job
recently put that master's degree to use but Jolly has no such desire to work I mean if she was going to work why did she move into the pink house and marry jobless Roy that doesn't make sense so now with the delivery of the Thomas' first grandson Jolly would have all the Rights all the power in The Pink House the mother of the first grandbaby would not have to work she would have the luxury to kick her feet up on the coffee table lounge around and have the staff care for her and her baby and
whatever she wants on the whim Jolly is watching Ann fawn over her baby this is perfect Jolly I'm absolutely in love with this baby now you can get a job and let me retire to watch your child forever what the plan has backfired Jolly would stall she doesn't want to go to work so instead she went and got a teaching certificate in another town that took about a year then when she got back she started with the excuses with the baby is so small who's going to take care of him and would sit there listening
to the compiled list of reasons that Jolly would prepare for her you know on why she can't work it likely went something along the lines of I know you mean well but I think right now the Priority is the baby you know critical for bonding and you know what they say I need to be there for the feeding and the moments and can you imagine research shows how important it is for babies to have a strong attachment to their mothers and I don't want to miss out on the my body needs time to heal you
know and and then the sleepless not Child Care is very pricey not many teaching jobs in this area you know so I think you know what I think Right when Jolly was done she looked up and she would see an smiling at her she hasn't said a single word in this conversation do you mother what do you we got a job interview for you and pulled some strings to get Jolly an interview for a teaching position at the local school it honestly would have been like hot knife through butter easy but comes back from the
interview tail tucked between her legs I'm not sure why they rejected me on the Spot Ann and Tom Thomas they're confused why would they do that Jolly is perfect for the job if anything she's overqualified oh my God because she's a new Mom they're discriminating they think that her son is going to hold her back in life and you know what we're going to prove them wrong Jolly just nodded but she knew that's not why she wasn't hired she didn't get the job because she never showed up for the interview how do you apply for
a Teaching position when you don't even have a teaching certificate Jolly also knew that if she said no once more to her mother-in-law she would be considered disagreeable difficult to be around and that would go against the rules of being a good daughter-in-law what are the main four ones again one be the family therapist two never be disagreeable but always get your way three learn to cook an unforgettable dish and four be resourceful and solve Problems before they arise Jolly was creative it was a skill that had served her really well her whole life and
it was going to again right now Jolly was just starting to get frustrated because she just couldn't get the dosages right yeah and it was frustrating her an just wasn't dying she had to give it to her Ann was holding on the first time Jolly tried to kill an it wasn't enough at all an just complained about indigestion closed the door to her Room and she was good after a good night's rest the second time Jolly up the dosage and when Anne started convulsing rushed to the hospital Jolly's thinking second time's the charm but One
hospital visit some ancient holistic medicine later and gets right back to nagging Jolly's ear off about going back to work so maybe it's not the amount maybe it's the drug up until now Jolly had been using whatever she could get her hands on just around the house Around the neighborhood so it's time to change it up time to test out a new drug she needed something stronger dog kill Jolly remembered her dad used it on a childhood pet of theirs once he didn't like how the dog was such a nuisance to the visitors so he
killed it but obvious viously it's deadly which makes it not the easiest thing to obtain and jolly would have to travel to a completely different town use a fake name make an excuse ask for a prescription for dog Kill beg for a prescription for dog the dog in town has rapies it's going to hurt a small child eventually unless then Jolly would travel to another town to a separate Pharmacy to pick up the prescription now if that's not resourceful I don't know what is she even tested on her other Precious Pet and she loved that
dog she really did I mean it took no joy in seeing the dog withering away in pain for 4 hours first 2 hours the dog started barking like Crazy and running around in circles in a frenzy its eyes were blown out and wild within the next 2 hours it was collapsed on the ground with its limbs rot out in these uncontrollable jerky movements growing more and more violent by the second she did not enjoy that probably but at least she knew that it worked Jolly had been the definition of the perfect daughter-in-law one be the
family therapist two never be disagreeable but always get your way and Be resourceful and solve problems before they arise and wait there's one that she's missing rule number three learn to cook an unforgettable dish her specialty mutton soup the key to her dish was the Perfect Blend of spices turmeric coriander Masala and pepper most recipes would suggest serving the soup hot with rice or bread but Jolly would be serving it with an extra ingredient especially for Anne dog kill it would be an Unforgettable dish Jolly's routine every day was meticulous the alarm would go off
she would swing her legs off the bed they would hit the floor with a thud the morning routine was simple brush teeth wash face get ready make sure the kids have breakfast drive to work going over lesson plans jol's a professor at nit which is the top engineering school in all of India she got a new job wait she did have a job she gets a new job okay mhm Yeah it's like the best engineering school in India and she's a professor there the questions she's getting for her lesson plans I mean they're intense these
are not just like random he he haha college students they're the top Minds from all over India and she's teaching them if she thought about it too hard she would have a panic attack so she would push it to the back of her mind get to school start her lessons take a quick working lunch break get Back in her car drive 20 minutes back home while on the phone with students faculty members parents she would almost always walk in through the front doors of the pink house did you take the book from my desk no
no it's fine if it's from the right stack just remember to bring it back after you reviewed the lessons Okay okay yes I'll see you tomorrow in class she hangs up Jolly's kids they never felt like she gave them any attention really I mean she's always Just going over lesson plans on the phone with her boss grading papers she would sit there with a stack of papers a bright red pen and when one of the kids would try and play with her get some of her attention she would put the red pen down pick up
her child walk into a room here you go play with your dad then Jolly would start her second shift she would take off the school name tag from around her neck throw on a cardigan over her work outfit settle down on the cushy Chair in the study and she would start going through the family finances making sure that everything was balancing at the end in her favor that is a new shift that she took on after Anne died then when she was done with that night shift she would start her third shift she would change
into her night clothes she starts making dinner Curry for Roy the kids had their phases of different foods that they ate and of course mashed tapioca every single evening for her Father-in-law I mean it's hard it's hard as a mom of two to take on all these different shifts she felt like she was being spread really thin but she did it for the family and all that's to say is she just doesn't have a lot of extra time and she definitely doesn't have any time for all of the neighborhood gossip did you hear jol's trying
to be an 2.0 trying to replace her it's just weird she started dressing like Anne but better I mean it's clear that she spends A lot of money on clothes and how much money do you think the professors at nit even get paid you think it's from the Thomas' family funds that she's using well you know how she's been gaining more influence in the family look I don't know I'm just saying she's looking like an she's acting like an I mean Thomas single could be influenced by a nice young woman in the house it might
be the smart thing to do ew no that's clearly very very false and fake and Just gross she is having an affair but it's not with her father-in-law she's sleeping with her cousin Jolly was allegedly having an affair with Roy's cousin not shaju that would be crazy shaju is married he's got children but a cousin named Matthew Roy's closest relative they call him Roy's philosopher because he always gives Roy such good advice so she's sleeping with another Cousin yes Matthew is laying in his cousin Roy's bed with his cousin Roy's wife Jolly she rolls over
in bed brings up the blanket with one hand to cover herself and just props her head up with the other don't you guys use cyanide to clean gold Matthew turns to look at his cousin's wife while he grabs his shirt I mean yeah why jelly kicks her feet up behind her I it's just so annoying it's inconvenient I just wish I had some way to get rid of them quickly you know and Easily the rats there's just a few rats in the house that I need to get rid of Matthew looks at her kind of
strangely cyanide is not a super common method used to kill rats it's a little Overkill in his opinion but he shrugs if it gets the job done right I guess I suppose but getting the cyanide for Jolly wasn't going to be a walk in the park it's regulated you can't just pick it up at the store not to mention it's not that cheap he would have to go directly to His boss praji the owner of the local jewelry store that Matthew works at I mean praji has a permit to get S night because you can
use it to separate gold but Matthew knew that praji was someone that likes a good deal so he thought of everything that praji would want in a deal two bottles of cyanide in exchange for two bottles of liquor $60 and a night with jolly wow the use of shrooms is illegal in most countries including the United States and India but at any rate the mushrooms that Jolly had were not magical they were just regular old mushroom powder in these plastic capsules mushroom supplements they're anti-inflammatory antioxidant stress relieving helps to improve energy levels and boost immunity
and it's all natural but also soy cyanide is it not okay maybe not but you can find it naturally in very minimal doses in apple seeds and cherry pits and so it's Justifiable you say Sinai is in the apple apple pits yeah you'd have to eat like 300 apples though to get cyanide poisoning oh wow yeah and right now Jolly is hovering over the kitchen counter emptying out one of the capsules into the trash she packs in some white powder instead jelly is undeniably th's new favorite family member he had originally been the most against
jol's marriage to his firstborn son Roy but now that Jolly had moved in and his wife Had died he'd really come to lean on Jolly a lot she really stepped up to the plate filled that caregiver roll Gap that an had left behind she made sure that he took his medicine ate well spent time Outdoors some neighbors thought it was so sweet they even said that Tom treated her more like his daughter by Blood rather than Daughter by marriage but Jolly thought their relationship was a little bit different Jolly knew that she had Tom in
the palm of her hand if She wanted him to transfer all the money from those sales into her account he would do it and he would throw in most of his life savings as well if she wanted him to change his will so that it would favor her and her husband Roy he would do it Jolly loved it he was like her little puppet and now Jolly just needed her puppet to dance for her one last time the morning of March 26th 2008 6:00 p.m. it's an hour before prayer and it's also time for Tom
to take his Daily Mushroom capsule Jolly walks into Tom's study Tom is hunched over the papers on his desk he's been so busy helping a few teachers from the nearby schools figure out their taxes Tom your pills Tom looks up from his work and his eyes just find Jolly's face he beams and he brings his arms up outstretched dramatically what would I do without you Jolly Jolly hands him the capsules with water smiling back at him no it was more what she could do without him Tom Obediently swallows the capsule and returns to work but
immediately he starts feeling a little dizzy he tries to take a big deep breath to steady himself but the dizziness only intensifies he clutches the desk in front of him his heart starts racing he's anxious he's like Jolly Jolly Jolly is by his side she's unnervingly calm yes Tom suddenly there's a sharp pain that's just tearing through his chest he falls over on his chair doubling over And jolly is just watching as her father-in-law is vomiting all over the floor all over her feet he begins to convulse uncontrollably as if his limbs are being jerked
around like strings like he's a puppet and then his body goes still he would be pronounced dead at the hospital Leela the daughter would later question Jolly why did it take so long for him to be taken to the hospital I just don't get it Jolly Shrugged I couldn't find the car key so it took Some time Tom's cause of death was ruled a heart attack just like his wife an 6 years prior their son Roy Jolly's husband would follow 3 years later by self- exit The Pink House is starting to gain a reputation three
sudden deaths in a family within 9 years all under suspicious circumstances but somehow all explained away it's almost as if the priest's words were coming true if you don't put up a wall around the well three people will Die poor jol her beloved family members taken out one after the other maybe she should have listened to the Omens does your left palm itch if it does you should watch your spending go find your wallet hold it tight or when's the last time you cut your nails at night be careful because they say every time you
clip your nails you're cutting your chances of joining your loved ones in the happy afterlife or have you recently seen a black butterfly I mean No big deal or anything but that just basically means that your impending death is near these are all the bad Omens that some people believe in even if you don't subscribe to these beliefs you have to admit they're kind of they're kind of in the back of your mind once you know them no tonight so if you decide to cut your nails while watching this video you might second guess for
a split second wait should I just wait till morning Maybe while you cut your nails at night the whole house is quiet and you feel like every little click you hear a creek downstairs maybe maybe not Leela is not a superstitious person and today is not a superstitious day Leela is smiling so many times that her entire face feels so sore it's a happy day she's staring at her new sister-in-law in her beautiful wedding gown I mean the S alone is confirmation superstitions are incorrect and not at all an indicator of anything Leela tries to
be in the moment her older brother Roy is finally getting married and it's the love marriage not an arranged marriage which nothing's wrong with that it's actually the norm but it's it's kind of intriguing it's exciting for the Thomas family Leela being the sister of the groom should be the one of the happiest she's finally going to get a sister in the Pink House the boys are no longer going to outnumber her and her mom she's going to Have an ally but every 2 seconds when Leela tries to enjoy the celebrations she would have this
intrusive thought pop up in her mind bad bad bad Omen she tries to shake it out of her head I mean there's no such thing as bad Omens there's just love and happy marriages but as she looks at the window of the church there's this nagging feeling one might call it intuition but it's like this pulling in her stomach she stares out at the gray window Rain rain is bad on a normal day rain is a merely an inconvenience on a wedding day they say that every single raindrop is the tear of the spirits that
have been betrayed left behind and killed by their lovers on their wedding day every little raindrop that falls is filled with misery and when it falls and hits the Newlywed couple it gets absorbed into their wedding vows into their wedding gowns their suits even their skin The Newlywed couple are now taking In all that pain anger sorrow regret of the angry Spirits they're just raining down on them jealous of Happiness that's what they say about rain on wedding days Leela tries to shake the feeling because this is just goofy Roy her brother is Happy Jolly
is the best sister-in-law that she could have asked for she's incredibly humble kind educated beautiful she is the dream girl for Roy but even after the wedding even after the death of an Thomas Leela's mom the death of Tom Thomas Leela's dad the death of Roy Thomas Leela's brother jol's wife even after all of that even after Jolly tried to legally fight Leela and her other surviving brother Arna for the ownership of the Thomas family lands and the Pink House even after all that Leela just tries to see Jolly for who she is family her
Jolly sister-in-law some people are just very very unlucky neighbors whispered that Death stuck to Jolly Joseph like a wet t-shirt that's what they said three deaths in the pink house if you sat there filling in some sort of timeline I mean it all starts after Jolly Joseph Moves In she just might be bad luck after she moves in an Thomas dies then Tom Thomas dies then her husband Roy Thomas dies leaving her a single mom of two I mean she must have done something horrendous in a past life because the stars are just not working
in her favor Uncle Manny did not agree with the baseless rumors Uncle Manny is Roy's blood uncle but he's also Jolly's uncle by marriage and he's also a very reasonable and understanding man he knew that his niece Jolly is trying her best with the really shitty cards that she's dealt when Ann died she stepped up to the plate she took care of the family finances she worked twice as hard to manage all their Investments when Tom died the father-in-law she was Devastated and her husband Roy never wanted to get a job but she loved that
man I mean that's crazy uncle Manny would defend Jolly to anybody well at least that was before Uncle Manny remembered Tom's funeral so after Tom died the second death in the Thomas family at his funeral everybody's dressed in black not a single smile in the crowd and if you were there thick in the middle of your own grief maybe you don't notice the strange thing but Uncle Manny did he noticed it jolia is standing there grieving her father-in-law wiping the tears from her eyes and in the corner of Uncle Manny's eyes he spots Matthew just
staring at Jolly why would jol's husband's cousin be staring at her like that I mean there was just something there in the look that he's giving her and then later they're talking but like their closeness the way that their bodies turn at the same time to greet another relative the Way that their bodies seem so natur naturally in sync that's not normal for people unless they know each other intimately it was weird usually you're very awkward and clunky with new people Uncle Manny is just sitting there wondering why is this bothering him so much I
mean technically they're family members Matthew is Roy's cousin why is this such a big deal because Uncle Manny remembered tomama told him a while back that he suspected Jolly of sleeping with Roy's cousin Matthew Uncle Manny didn't really take it too seriously because Tom getting older maybe he's paranoid I mean that that can't be true how ridiculous would that be to sleep with your cousin but after Roy's death after her husband's death Uncle Manny is starting to get a Vibe and he doesn't like it he had a lot of suspicions about jolly and he wanted
to do something about it he starts talking about it he Starts talking calling relatives to tell them his thoughts February 24th 2014 Uncle Manny would be found dead there was a lunch sitting cold on his d table a special curry made by Jolly it was not touched because Curry isn't the only dish that cyanide can be mixed into in Uncle Manny's Liquor Cabinet was a half finished bottle of whiskey cyanide so she did put Cina in both just the whiskey not the curry no huh because She thought maybe the last one there was Curry I
don't want to do it again oh wow but there was a curry there was a curry made by her sitting on the dining table that's crazy wow there are a number of rules that chefs have to follow in the kitchen one interesting one usually that's only found in High Press Michelin starred kitchens is the no talking rule which means exactly what it sounds like during service kitchen staff must work in complete silence communicating only Through nods gestures and brief eye contact the purpose of this rule is to maintain absolute focus and minimize distractions and ensure
that every day is executed flawlessly which sounds really unhinged but then again this is just at some fancy restaurants right the basics everybody knows that wash your hands before and after touching anything keep your nails trimmed and clean make sure you don't have any open Cuts Jolly knew these rules well she's a great cook But to be honest Jolly followed these rules more when she was out of the kitchen these rules were essential in preventing accidental cyanide poisoning through skin contact because Jolly handled cyanide regularly she would have to stick to these rules like they
were a life code she was trying to be safe about killing and she had allegedly succeeded six times an Tom Roy Uncle Manny baby Aline and now Silly's murder was the most risky it happened in the Waiting room of a dentist office with patients all around even Silly's own son was there here take one of these it's a mushroom capsule it'll help with the headache silly had gratefully taken the mushroom capsule from jolly and guled it down with some water minutes later she began convulsing struggling to breathe and she would die just like that just
like the others the sun is screaming and crying all the way to the hospital I Mean his mom just 2 years after his sister died his mom dies Jolly's holding her breath though because she could have sworn she saw silly son looking at her when she offered his mom the pills thank God the doctor thought it was epilepsy but now is not the time to think about that okay it's a special day J and shaju are getting married exactly one year after Silly's death February 2017 after their intimate wedding shaju And his son would move
into the pink house they would slam the gates closed and seclude themselves from the world I mean at this point The Whispers they're not even Whispers there are straightup screams about the house the family death the curse and the new marriage of the two cousins jolly and shaju I mean most people do not agree with this marriage even Silly's parents were disgusted that their son-in-law could just move on so quickly but also with jolly it's just Strange the neighbors were Whispering about the two cousins as well so they just shut themselves into the pink house
and started this new life together but old habits die hard shaju rolls over in bed one night rubs his eyes and he sees Jolly whispering and smiling while holding a phone up to her ear was odd he tried to ask Jolly about it but she would just shrug it off he demanded to see her phone but she absolutely refused I mean it's pretty obvious shaju thinks That Jolly is cheating and she probably is right because the past is hard to let go of it's comfortable it's an old sweater that you just can't get rid of
but Leela Thomas she's not letting go of the past either her brother's widow is now moving on and marrying their cousin is weird everything about this is odd the Thomas family I mean it was perfectly fine until she came into their lives that's when the death started sure you could Call it unlucky but what if it's not Leela knows what she saw at Silly's funeral silly is shaju's wife the weird energy like all of that Silly's family and friends had come over to her house for Silly's wake if you will and jolly is there ushering
people in putting coasters on the table as if this is her house as if she's the lady of the house the wife jol's managing everything the food the flower arrangements getting silly ready for the funeral I mean it's Odd you would think that Shu and jolly are a couple and silly was Jolly sister or something when Jolly wasn't busy micromanaging every aspect of the funeral she would just burst into tears uncontrollably crying and then done she'd go back to funeral arrangements and then go back to crying a lot of people were also Whispering why does
she seem the saddest like it's weird I get it it's her friend but it's just point blank bizarre Leela said I stood there Looking at all of this and I still remember how Disturbed I felt I wasn't even concentrating on the dead body I was just I was looking at Jolly moving around bringing things from the other room doing all the things and I just saw her face for a strange moment and I just felt weird I mean I felt like she actually had this happiness I mean somewhere it reflected on Jolly's face at the
funeral like I felt it I just stood there and a spark struck my mind And I connected silly had died for what for shadu to be single for no did silly die because of Jolly the thought Disturbed me instantly and immensely and I wondered if perhaps the baby was also a hindrance baby Aline who was sick even if silly alone dies and jolly Remar shaju she would be obligated to care for their sick child which would undoubtedly hold Jolly's life back I knew something wasn't right but that I mean that just can't be possible Right
Leela starts Connecting the dots all the Death the only person that wins every single time is Jolly it just doesn't make any sense with Anne she became the matriarch the head of the Investments Tom's death she had an inheritance Roy's death she got Roy's inheritance baby Aline maybe she doesn't want to take care of a baby because she wants to marry shaju and then shaju's wife what Leela's eyes went big and she lifts her head to stare at Jolly at the Funeral who she sees Jolly is walking straight up to Silly's coffin right next to
shaju they both leaned down and kiss silly on each side of her cheek the both of them at the same time a final goodbye the funeral goers started looking from side to side eyes wide what the hell was that about that was a shocking gesture silly had just passed but it looks like these two they look like a couple I mean they look like a couple that have been together for a while what does that mean So they're not hiding it at this point and everybody knows they know they're just putting it out Leela thought
it meant her whole life had been a lie she had to do something about it she goes home after the funeral calls her other brother arnov I'm going to ask for a copy of Roy's postmortem she discovered in the autopsy that he had undigested curry in his stomach but that doesn't align with what Jolly said remember yeah Leela and Arna Roy's siblings J's Brother and sister-in-law they went to the police and demanded an exem of six people they believe that Jolly had killed six people in their family and none of this is going to be
easy the deaths happened in the span of 14 years between the first and the last murder it would it would be difficult to even exume some of the bodies and even if they had been poisoned with cyanide cyanide is more of a here than gone type of thing it doesn't linger in the body For very long cyanide metabolizes in the body very quickly and once that happens becomes very hard to detect Additionally the longer a body has been buried in the ground the more likely that the cyanide has actually seeped out of their bodies and
into the surrounding soil experts on this case said it's going to be like finding a needle in a hay stack trying to find cyanide in a decomposed body that's that's difficult so with those odds and the added element of exhuming a Body in Christianity the town actually was really upset at the siblings for requesting such a thing they were like you're going to put your whole family Souls through that for what the tiniest sliver of a chance that you might find something which yes oh I'm sorry so they had this feeling 16 years later yeah
14 years later 14 years later so they weren't thinking about poisoning before I think an and Thomas they were elderly and because they had gone to so an had Gone to the hospital multiple times nobody knew that it was her being poisoned they thought that she was having a natural decline in her health same with Tom Thomas the father Roy Thomas everybody did believe it was a self- exit when it comes to Uncle Manny I think that maybe Leela did not connect all of them together mhm yeah and I I don't think that generally you
would imagine that you have a serial killer in the family yeah yeah and it it would it Dis it was a spanning of six years three years nine years for three victims so you know it's not back to back where she's so suspicious it's just it's weird and the neighbors are like you're not even going to find anything because look at Jolly she's Jolly besides the two siblings they've got something to gain from all of this Jolly has the pink house she's got Tom's money they're going to frame her for the murders and take back
what is theirs ear H with some Of the people were saying they stopped saying it when cyanide was found in silly shaju's wife's body October 5th 2019 Jolly Joseph would be arrested in the pink house early hours of the morning in front of her two sons Remo and Reynolds she was 47 when she was arrested she was 33 when she committed her very first murder and that is the story of Jolly Joseph or at least that's what the prosecutors the media and the general Public believe has happened more or less but that doesn't mean that
it's 100% true that's just what I would consider the overwhelming majority of people and what they believe the trial is still ongoing and here's the interesting part A lot of the information that we have is from jolly herself she confessed but in India a confession cannot be admissible in the court of law in the US that would solidify her guilt 10 times over to the prison and back but not in India Jolly Has taken back everything that she's confessed to she's hired a very controversial attorney one that has a strong Affinity like a strong liking
for representing he literally sees violence against women and he's like that one that's the guy that I want to protect he said why should anyone become a criminal lawyer if you're not not going to represent all aspects of life for a criminal including murder and if one is not prepared to represent these aspects It's better for one to opt for Family Court law perhaps everybody has the legal right to defend their case anyway he was hired to represent her in the trial which she has pled not guilty the attorney has stated that she confessed under
durus the police found a bottle of cyanide wrapped in cloth that was placed in the kitchen utensil drawer in that kitchen but Jolly argued that they planted it she said if I did Kill Everyone why would I keep the bottle of Cide the attorney has stated with much respect to the honorable court and with respect to the prosecution as a defense lawyer after so many years even saying that they found this substance in the house is beyond my imagination to prove the allegations against Jolly prosecution itself fabricated the potassium cyanide the bottle that contained it
the place where it was hidden I believe all of these things were framed for the purpose of this case The attorney also stated that the police were playing Dirty by encouraging a trial by media they said police are collectively leaking information to media and they are spinning stories after stories and I'm sure most of these charges will not stand before the court of law but while her attorney is so busy at work Jolly is confessing to a lot of people her brother stated that she confessed to him he and his father they're like we don't
know her anymore She has been completely disowned she confesses to her son the police in front of alleged Witnesses it's stated that she confessed her alleged other boyfriend the man who just goes by the name Johnson Jolly did claim innocence on baby aline's murder though she said that the baby had nothing to do with her she reacted what would I get from killing a small child the child is a minor she will not be an obstacle to my marriage or anything like that she Confessed her son so she's confessing to a lot of people jol's
eldest son who participated in the Netflix documentary only refers to his mom as either Jolly by name or that woman he said it was unbelievable for me to think that she has committed so many murders because I had seen such things only in movies never in real life when I reached home I found out that my house was empty except my brother and then she came home when the woman called Jolly returned home I Observed that she looked very tired panic-stricken and her inner mind was full of fear I said that I need to speak
with jolly alone and then I went into a room with her after entering the room I asked her what's going on I told her the news channels are all pointing their fingers in your direction I mean have there been mistakes on your part did you do it did you kill people I'm asking you strongly are you involved in these murders he said that Jolly cried and Replied in a panicked voice that she did not do anything wrong and she was not involved at all I said I want to know the truth tell me what happened
you've definitely done something and you have to tell me everything she finally admitted that she committed the murders well she said that she committed some mistakes he said so I asked her again did you commit these murders tell me everything Remo states that his mom admitted everything she Admitted to all six murders and he States I was completely shocked I didn't know what to do until that day we believed that the deaths of our close family members were natural I had doubts until the very end I can never see that person as my mother again
also I don't know if this part is kind of anticlimactic coming down from that because she just confessed to killing everybody but she also does confess to not having a job she went to The NIT job as a professor for 12 years she did not have a job we don't know what kind of paper she's grading I don't know if she went to the library and printed out random papers and then started grading them in her free time what's crazy is that her kid said that she was always working she's not even doing fun stuff
it's not like she comes home from work to just lay on the bed she's literally reading papers and grading papers fake paper fake papers we Have no idea what she did every day for 12 years straight they tried to ask jolly and she said that she went to this beauty spa but when they ask the beauty spa people they're like I mean we've seen her but she has been coming here every day for the past 12 years like she's just a normal customer crazy she could have just stopped she could have just say okay I
stopped working yeah she didn't for 12 years because it's a prestigious position Oh yeah I mean it's just unhinged Netflix released a documentary called Curry and cyanide which is yeah I mean a lot of people did say it was a wild name when they didn't know that Curry was actually involved yeah that was the first controversy um Matthew do you mean they didn't they just thought it was an Indian case so they called it Korean zide and people were very just thought the name was so unhinged and wild but she actually did put cyanide in
curry it Seems allegedly now Matthew the cousin tried to get the Netflix documentary banned he filed for an intervention from the trial courts he claimed that the documentary went over fake information but his request was ultimately banned so the Netflix doc is live but even with the documentary the trial underway I mean there's still a lot of unanswered questions like where did Jolly go for the year that she was getting her teaching certificate if she Didn't actually get her teaching certificate where did she go every day while she was at work at nit for 12
years we know that she borrowed money from shaju's dad while she pretended to work because you know it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you don't have an income coming in but how was she always in debt she killed so many people for the purpose of money and she's still in debt like what is her game plan what's her Wait so she's killing for money or we're saying we don't know right now we don't know that's what people think that she's doing because that's the only motive that makes sense it's like either killing for
money killing for convenience or killing to just make sure you don't get caught mhm if she really did this all for money she's working harder at killing and getting away with it than she would have just working a regular job she's working 20 times Harder yeah and there's now a question of how many others were involved there are a lot of questions about shaju the new husband and his invol inent in the death of his wife and child because I guess netizens were wondering how he didn't see these red flags and just the timing of
everything it felt like they were already together by the point that his wife died did he see them as holding him back in life as well I don't know about all of that but neisens do state It's weird that the doctors they recommended for both his daughter and his wife to get an autopsy done they're both like this is not this is not natural like something weird happened but he would say no it's okay like I'm going to reject because it's just not something we do in the family he also stated that he really only
remarried jolly because it sounded like it'd be a smart choice for him and his son because you know she's family so They'd just be a big family I guess the idea being that shaju was a single dad with a son jol's a single mom with two sons they're already a family so now they can blend into a family I don't know it's just intriguing some people think that shaju was actually the next Vic because his parents did have some money so maybe it would have been a Roy situation where she kills shaju the police do
not think that shaju is involved at all but a lot of nens remain Suspicious to say the least shaju did file for divorce after she was arrested they did arrested also three accompli cousin Matthew the one that Jolly was sleeping with that obtained the cyanide pragi the owner of the jewelry store that Matthew purchased the cyanide from allegedly there both parties are denying any involvement and then Manaj Kumar apparently he's a former politician from the area he opened up his own real estate brokerage that Jolly invested a Lot of her money into and he was
arrested for helping Jolly get a fake notary for Tom's will because she forged a portion of Tom's will I guess the unanswered question is how much did they really know how involved were they and the biggest question is what if she's not actually guilty there are some people that believe Jolly is innocent that she was set up they state that it doesn't make sense for Jolly to have committed these Crimes and the police just want an easier Target they argue that Anne and Tom Thomas were already pretty ill at the time of their alleged murders
so perhaps they died from natural causes they state that there really was no reason for Jolly to kill a 2-year-old who did nothing one nzen raises a few questions and they write look at this objectively we never hear Jolly speak the only conversations we've heard are from other people saying that this is What she said I'd really want to see how she is as a person the end conversation with her and Leela is just chilling it sounds like Leela is admitting to the guilt six victims do you really think that Jolly killed all of them
a large part of this Theory at least from what I've seen hinges on the last meeting between Leela Roy's sister and jolly Leela went to go visit Jolly in prison and honestly the only reason she went is because she had just adopted jol's two Sons as her own and she wanted Jolly to stop calling them Jolly would call them and send them into spirals of distress because she would say things like you wait and watch I'm going to get out of here you come and you show me the proof that I did it let's see
how they punish me Leela said that when Jolly walked out it was very startling this is the woman that had been living in the pink house with servants tending to her and now now she's just sitting there she looked she Looked indifferent though she didn't look embarrassed or remorseful she just sat there Jolly stayed quiet and they both stared at each other Leela broke the silence how do you feel about what you've done it just happened it just happened you purposely killed six people you didn't even spare a little child and you said that just
happened it's because I have a Criminal Mind I can hide things in the Bible it says that no matter how many sins you commit God will forgive us He will forgive me as well Leela looked at her and said yes God May forgive may he forgive everyone some people took that as an admission of guilt from Leela like she was rubbing it in Jolly's face that she had done it she had gotten away with it and God would forgive her and that is where we are with jolly Joseph's case h yeah so we're waiting on
the sentencing and and the trial and I mean We don't know she I guess without the trial it's confusing because technically you're presumed innocent until guilty right mhm perhaps her confession to the police was coerced but she does confess to a lot of people so I I don't know it's just very confusing I would say that the general public does believe that she's guilty but again that's just an opinion we don't know until the trial is is over mhm what are your thoughts though do you feel like this is a serial Killer do you feel
like maybe she's been framed do you feel like this is just so odd mhm what are your thoughts let me know please stay safe and I will see you guys on Sunday for the next episode bye