you know, since October 7th, what we've seen on the left, but on the right, you know, you have few of the loud voices on the internet. They won't shut up about Israel. They won't shut up about the $7,000.
They're literally shilling for people who want to kill us. They're all about APAC, the $7,000. Meanwhile, there are people who literally want to kill us.
Yeah. I mean, look, I've never gotten $7,000 or or dime from BB or Israel or anything else. I'm I'm defending the values I believe in because I believe in them and it's completely congruent with everything else that I talk about.
That's what's so disappointing here. You know, I keep saying on my show it's like you can have a total libertarian um view of the world. You could have an absolutely isolationist view of the world.
I I happen to not agree with that view and I think it's a little childish in some sense. You know, if we just stay out of the world, the world will stay away from us. Or, you know, I'm against war.
Well, everyone's against war. That sounds really nice, but sometimes people want to wage war on you and you get peace through strength, etc. , etc.
, but you could hold that position and be fine. The problem is, I have no doubt some there's some random libertarians that are holding that position. The problem is right now they're being represented by people like Tucker Carlson who are lying about literally everything.
I mean, every word that comes out of that man's mouth is a lie or a confusion or an obfiscation or or he says the reverse of what he says one day, you know, one day he'll tell you that America shouldn't support Israel because it's a secular state. Then the next day he'll come out and say that Habad is leading the re the religious revolution to build the third temple. None of it makes any sense unless the only conclusion the only logical conclusion you could come to is either he's not well mentally I suppose which maybe that's one of it or uh that he is he's actually working against America.
I mean when's the last time he did a pro-America show, a proTrump show, a show that talked about how great this country is and what we are fighting for. Everything is to demoralize everybody. Yes.
And I guess to some extent it's working. Well, it is working. And I want to add to that when Mandami was running for office, I was watching very closely like, "Hey, Tucker, you gonna talk about this like the rest of us?
You gonna talk about the threat that could be coming to New York City because you seem to say you care about America? " And then he contradicts himself. He'll say things like, "I watched him.
" Well, he'll say things like, um, when Ambassador Huckabe was he was interviewing him and and Ambassador Huckabe brought up Hezbollah and he's like, "What Americans care about Hezbollah? Hezbollah is in the Middle East. If I'm living over here while in America, why do I care?
I'm sorry, Tucker. You don't stop talking about Israel. Right.
Right. Well, that's, you know, he said month or two ago or maybe it was even three months, something like that. He was when he did Megan Kelly show backstage and he's like, "Everyone should just stop talking about Israel.
" And subsequently, he does every single show about Israel. I don't talk about Israel as much nearly as much and I have no desire to other there happens to be a war right now but I have no desire I I would prefer to talk about American politics and what's happening here now we we're in a a worldwide community. We have alliances.
You can talk about these things at some point. But you know there's about 57 Muslim nations where everyone outside of being Muslim is not treated well. Ask the Christians of Lebanon or Egypt how it's going there.
You know, there's apartheid in if in virtually all of those nations. Um Jordan is the actual Palestine. It's a Palestinian majority country run by the Hasheite King of Jordan.
Nobody cares about any of this because it's basically no Jews, no news. My hope is that at the end of this war that most of these countries will have come to the realization that Israel is just not going anywhere. They are so much better technologically and and uh but I it's more than technologically.
It's sort of philosophically and and and in the most in the most clear and concise human way they are so much better because they they care about their people as opposed to subjugating them which so many of these other nations do. If they could just accept, hey, Israel's here. Guess who guess who's been attacking you guys?
Iran has attacked I think 13 of their neighboring nations. UAE doesn't have a problem with Israel. Bahrain doesn't have a problem with Israel.
Saudi Arabia is not going to have a problem with Israel. all of these countries. Lebanon won't have a problem with Israel if they would just get rid of Hzbollah, which maybe they're going to do now, or or let Israel do it for him.
So, the world is changing right now. And if we if everyone just has a little imagination and faith in Donald Trump, which I really think he deserves at this point, I think everything's going to be fine. Yeah.
And that's why he's taking on the Islamic Republic of Iran that has, you know, funded all of these proxies and exactly what we're seeing happening. I I I want to ask you, and I don't know if you're going to answer me, what happened to Megan Kelly? You guys used to be friends.
She used to go on your podcast. I mean, YouTube and I mean, you've known her for so long and she's one of the people who's now talking about the 7,000. Like, Megan, you know, everyone is not being paid 7,000.
Look, I you know, it's hard to know even people that you do know. She's been to my house for dinner and we've broken bread many times and we I've called her for advice over the years. She called me for advice when she left when she first left mainstream media or she was forced out of NBC.
But, you know, she called me when she was going independent and I was so thrilled to get her call. I was like, "This is so cool. Megan Kelly is calling me and, you know, to figure out how I went independent, how I built what I built, and we and we helped her along the way.
" And we've had a great relationship on and off camera for years. And I look in her case, I don't look when it comes to Tucker, I I don't know what's going on. Like, he does seem to be spiritually maybe the demon did win or he really is just taking money and working for America's enemies or just fundamentally doesn't like America anymore.
I think Megan just made a terrible mistake. I think about five months ago when uh when Tucker had Fuentes on and the whole internet was focused on that. She just saw energy there and she comes from mainstream media where they want ratings.
They go for energy and I think she just bet her horse. She was like that's the horse I'm going to ride on this thing. I don't think she believes any of the things she's saying anymore.
And that's why she comes off as so angry and nasty and like mean girls. It's really disappointing at a friend level. You know, as I always say, like I had friends before I got into this business, I'll have friends after, and that's just fine.
But, you know, you see I think I think one of the reasons that Tucker and Megan particularly going off the rails has been so weird is that they seemed like the two people on mainstream media who kind of got it for those of us who live online. So, they came to our pool and now they're in our pool and they're peeing in it and we're all slightly annoyed about that. We're all just like, you know, the water was actually just fine here.
You were welcome in. Don't don't don't pollute our waters. But that's what they're doing.
They're taking a mainstream, you know, just destroy everything. Attack everybody. Everyone pay attention to me.
You know, she tweeted out the other day that she's getting more YouTube views than Ben Shapiro. It's like, is this a 10th grade popularity contest? Right.
It's just all it's just boring and tired. So I So ideologically, my guess is she's going to continue to go the wrong way, but for her, I think it was genuinely about clicks and wanting to be liked. Yeah, you're very nice.
You're giving her kind of some some sort of grace. I mean, she she came out and uh she also posted, well, she she said on her podcast the other day with Glenn Greenwald that she can't even go on X anymore because of all this hate and all that stuff. And I think what you're Yeah, go ahead.
I'm sorry, but that's just such dribble. You know, for months and months and months as she's taken this little turn that she's taken, I saw so many people in her comments saying positive things like, Megan, you maybe you're missing this or maybe, you know, could you comment on Candace? Like, it was being done.
There were so many, and I'm not just talking about random weirdo accounts. There were real people attached to things that were kindly saying to her, "Hey, maybe you want to think about this. " And she just blew off everybody.
So, she made her choice and yes, I suppose you can get a lot of clicks by being awful and she'll have to live with herself. Yeah. And that's what I was going to say is a lot of people after she said, "Oh my god, I can't go on the internet anymore without people, you know, hating me.
" A lot of people were like, "Well, we respected you and we've seen you go down this nasty rabbit hole. " To your point, Tucker and Megan were respected in mainstream media. Now they're in this podcasting world and people are like, "Oh my god, great.
You're here. We we love it. And then here you are now.
So this is where the hate is coming from. Like look, old habits old habits die hard. So they're bringing a lot of the crap of mainstream media related to everyone has to pay attention to me and ratings and fighting with people, rap wars, that kind of thing.
They're bringing it along. Which is why that's why I'm saying what she did with Candace for all those months that people were like, just say something about Candace. And I think the line that really got her was when she said, well, she's a young mother.
And it's like, lady, you go after Megan Markle all the time. You go after Megan McCain, who just had a baby three months ago, all the time. You you do you like now she just comes off as mean and angry and bitter and she's cursing all the time.
Have you noticed? I'm like, stop. Well, you know, it's funny.
I thank her for doing that actually because because she's been cursing so much and you know, the Democrats in general have been cursing more. They're dropping fbombs constantly on television, everything else. I'm not doing it.
I I've decided to limit it on my show. I was only do I was doing it very sparingly anyway, but I'm just going to be better than them and it doesn't take that much to do. Yeah, you're right.
I mean, just keep doing you Look, you you bring up a good point. I mean, she's not attacking Candace, but Candace is attacking Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk, who I I I don't know.
I think they had like a friendly friendly relationship with, but she's not even defending Erica Kirk. So, it's like, where's your moral clarity? You don't have to look Look, Megan, you don't have to defend everybody in this world, but don't be a hypocrite.
Well, I think people just expected a little something more. Right. Right.
Like as I said, she was she was thought of as a little bit better. Tucker was thought of as a little bit better. So, we would we would like to think that these people who live in these little boxes that you and I in are going to do the right thing when push comes to shove.
But I think she genuinely saw the energy that was around that Tucker Fentes thing and she's like, I want those clicks. So, I would again I would congratulate her like congratulations Megan, you got those clicks. the cost was your integrity, but you did get the clicks and I suppose that is worth something.
So, are you still friends? Have you texted each other? No, I reached out to her a couple times just to say, you know, even even eight months ago or so, I reached out to her right when she was first getting hit.
Not when she really went crazy with the Candace stuff, but even a little bit before that, I reached out to her just to say, "Hey, I've been there. I used to get hate from both sides. if you want to talk about it publicly or privately anytime.
And she kind of blew me off and and subsequently, no, we're not friends anymore. And by the but just for the record, I always anytime I have ever gone after someone that I know uh personally, I will always reach out to them privately first. I I never do it the other way.
Even Tucker, I reached out to him several times to arrange a debate with him and Ben whether he wanted me involved or not. I tried to talk him off the ledge a little bit and then at some point you just you give up and and then then we do talk for a living so I have to tell people what I think. Yeah.
you know, since October 7th, what we've seen on the left, but on the right, you know, you have few of the loud voices on the internet. They won't shut up about Israel. They won't shut up about the $7,000.
They're literally shilling for people who want to kill us. They're all about APAC, the $7,000. Meanwhile, there are people who literally want to kill us.
Yeah. I mean, look, I've never gotten $7,000 or or dime from BB or Israel or anything else. I'm I'm defending the values I believe in because I believe in them and it's completely congruent with everything else that I talk about.
That's what's so disappointing here. You know, I keep saying on my show it's like you can have a total libertarian um view of the world. You could have an absolutely isolationist view of the world.
I I happen to not agree with that view and I think it's a little childish in some sense. You know, if we just stay out of the world, the world will stay away from us. Or, you know, I'm against war.
Well, everyone's against war. That sounds really nice, but sometimes people want to wage war on you and you get peace through strength, etc. , etc.
, but you could hold that position and be fine. The problem is, I have no doubt some there's some random libertarians that are holding that position. The problem is right now they're being represented by people like Tucker Carlson who are lying about literally everything.
I mean, every word that comes out of that man's mouth is a lie or a confusion or an obfiscation or or he says the reverse of what he says one day, you know, one day he'll tell you that America shouldn't support Israel because it's a secular state. Then the next day he'll come out and say that Habad is leading the re the religious revolution to build the third temple. None of it makes any sense unless the only conclusion the only logical conclusion you could come to is either he's not well mentally I suppose which maybe that's one of it or uh that he is he's actually working against America.
I mean when's the last time he did a pro-America show, a proTrump show, a show that talked about how great this country is and what we are fighting for. Everything is to demoralize everybody. Yes.
And I guess to some extent it's working. Well, it is working. And I want to add to that when Mandami was running for office, I was watching very closely like, "Hey, Tucker, you gonna talk about this like the rest of us?
You gonna talk about the threat that could be coming to New York City because you seem to say you care about America? " And then he contradicts himself. He'll say things like, "I watched him.
" Well, he'll say things like, um, when Ambassador Huckabe was he was interviewing him and and Ambassador Huckabe brought up Hezbollah and he's like, "What Americans care about Hezbollah? Hezbollah is in the Middle East. If I'm living over here while in America, why do I care?
I'm sorry, Tucker. You don't stop talking about Israel. Right.
Right. Well, that's, you know, he said month or two ago or maybe it was even three months, something like that. He was when he did Megan Kelly show backstage and he's like, "Everyone should just stop talking about Israel.
" And subsequently, he does every single show about Israel. I don't talk about Israel as much nearly as much and I have no desire to other there happens to be a war right now but I have no desire I I would prefer to talk about American politics and what's happening here now we we're in a a worldwide community. We have alliances.
You can talk about these things at some point. But you know there's about 57 Muslim nations where everyone outside of being Muslim is not treated well. Ask the Christians of Lebanon or Egypt how it's going there.
You know, there's apartheid in if in virtually all of those nations. Um Jordan is the actual Palestine. It's a Palestinian majority country run by the Hasheite King of Jordan.
Nobody cares about any of this because it's basically no Jews, no news. My hope is that at the end of this war that most of these countries will have come to the realization that Israel is just not going anywhere. They are so much better technologically and and uh but I it's more than technologically.
It's sort of philosophically and and and in the most in the most clear and concise human way they are so much better because they they care about their people as opposed to subjugating them which so many of these other nations do. If they could just accept, hey, Israel's here. Guess who guess who's been attacking you guys?
Iran has attacked I think 13 of their neighboring nations. UAE doesn't have a problem with Israel. Bahrain doesn't have a problem with Israel.
Saudi Arabia is not going to have a problem with Israel. all of these countries. Lebanon won't have a problem with Israel if they would just get rid of Hzbollah, which maybe they're going to do now, or or let Israel do it for him.
So, the world is changing right now. And if we if everyone just has a little imagination and faith in Donald Trump, which I really think he deserves at this point, I think everything's going to be fine. Yeah.
And that's why he's taking on the Islamic Republic of Iran that has, you know, funded all of these proxies and exactly what we're seeing happening. I I I want to ask you, and I don't know if you're going to answer me, what happened to Megan Kelly? You guys used to be friends.
She used to go on your podcast. I mean, YouTube and I mean, you've known her for so long and she's one of the people who's now talking about the 7,000. Like, Megan, you know, everyone is not being paid 7,000.
Look, I you know, it's hard to know even people that you do know. She's been to my house for dinner and we've broken bread many times and we I've called her for advice over the years. She called me for advice when she left when she first left mainstream media or she was forced out of NBC.
But, you know, she called me when she was going independent and I was so thrilled to get her call. I was like, "This is so cool. Megan Kelly is calling me and, you know, to figure out how I went independent, how I built what I built, and we and we helped her along the way.
" And we've had a great relationship on and off camera for years. And I look in her case, I don't look when it comes to Tucker, I I don't know what's going on. Like, he does seem to be spiritually maybe the demon did win or he really is just taking money and working for America's enemies or just fundamentally doesn't like America anymore.
I think Megan just made a terrible mistake. I think about five months ago when uh when Tucker had Fuentes on and the whole internet was focused on that. She just saw energy there and she comes from mainstream media where they want ratings.
They go for energy and I think she just bet her horse. She was like that's the horse I'm going to ride on this thing. I don't think she believes any of the things she's saying anymore.
And that's why she comes off as so angry and nasty and like mean girls. It's really disappointing at a friend level. You know, as I always say, like I had friends before I got into this business, I'll have friends after, and that's just fine.
But, you know, you see I think I think one of the reasons that Tucker and Megan particularly going off the rails has been so weird is that they seemed like the two people on mainstream media who kind of got it for those of us who live online. So, they came to our pool and now they're in our pool and they're peeing in it and we're all slightly annoyed about that. We're all just like, you know, the water was actually just fine here.
You were welcome in. Don't don't don't pollute our waters. But that's what they're doing.
They're taking a mainstream, you know, just destroy everything. Attack everybody. Everyone pay attention to me.
You know, she tweeted out the other day that she's getting more YouTube views than Ben Shapiro. It's like, is this a 10th grade popularity contest? Right.
It's just all it's just boring and tired. So I So ideologically, my guess is she's going to continue to go the wrong way, but for her, I think it was genuinely about clicks and wanting to be liked. Yeah, you're very nice.
You're giving her kind of some some sort of grace. I mean, she she came out and uh she also posted, well, she she said on her podcast the other day with Glenn Greenwald that she can't even go on X anymore because of all this hate and all that stuff. And I think what you're Yeah, go ahead.
I'm sorry, but that's just such dribble. You know, for months and months and months as she's taken this little turn that she's taken, I saw so many people in her comments saying positive things like, Megan, you maybe you're missing this or maybe, you know, could you comment on Candace? Like, it was being done.
There were so many, and I'm not just talking about random weirdo accounts. There were real people attached to things that were kindly saying to her, "Hey, maybe you want to think about this. " And she just blew off everybody.
So, she made her choice and yes, I suppose you can get a lot of clicks by being awful and she'll have to live with herself. Yeah. And that's what I was going to say is a lot of people after she said, "Oh my god, I can't go on the internet anymore without people, you know, hating me.
" A lot of people were like, "Well, we respected you and we've seen you go down this nasty rabbit hole. " To your point, Tucker and Megan were respected in mainstream media. Now they're in this podcasting world and people are like, "Oh my god, great.
You're here. We we love it. And then here you are now.
So this is where the hate is coming from. Like look, old habits old habits die hard. So they're bringing a lot of the crap of mainstream media related to everyone has to pay attention to me and ratings and fighting with people, rap wars, that kind of thing.
They're bringing it along. Which is why that's why I'm saying what she did with Candace for all those months that people were like, just say something about Candace. And I think the line that really got her was when she said, well, she's a young mother.
And it's like, lady, you go after Megan Markle all the time. You go after Megan McCain, who just had a baby three months ago, all the time. You you do you like now she just comes off as mean and angry and bitter and she's cursing all the time.
Have you noticed? I'm like, stop. Well, you know, it's funny.
I thank her for doing that actually because because she's been cursing so much and you know, the Democrats in general have been cursing more. They're dropping fbombs constantly on television, everything else. I'm not doing it.
I I've decided to limit it on my show. I was only do I was doing it very sparingly anyway, but I'm just going to be better than them and it doesn't take that much to do. Yeah, you're right.
I mean, just keep doing you Look, you you bring up a good point. I mean, she's not attacking Candace, but Candace is attacking Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk, who I I I don't know.
I think they had like a friendly friendly relationship with, but she's not even defending Erica Kirk. So, it's like, where's your moral clarity? You don't have to look Look, Megan, you don't have to defend everybody in this world, but don't be a hypocrite.
Well, I think people just expected a little something more. Right. Right.
Like as I said, she was she was thought of as a little bit better. Tucker was thought of as a little bit better. So, we would we would like to think that these people who live in these little boxes that you and I in are going to do the right thing when push comes to shove.
But I think she genuinely saw the energy that was around that Tucker Fentes thing and she's like, I want those clicks. So, I would again I would congratulate her like congratulations Megan, you got those clicks. the cost was your integrity, but you did get the clicks and I suppose that is worth something.
So, are you still friends? Have you texted each other? No, I reached out to her a couple times just to say, you know, even even eight months ago or so, I reached out to her right when she was first getting hit.
Not when she really went crazy with the Candace stuff, but even a little bit before that, I reached out to her just to say, "Hey, I've been there. I used to get hate from both sides. if you want to talk about it publicly or privately anytime.
And she kind of blew me off and and subsequently, no, we're not friends anymore. And by the but just for the record, I always anytime I have ever gone after someone that I know uh personally, I will always reach out to them privately first. I I never do it the other way.
Even Tucker, I reached out to him several times to arrange a debate with him and Ben whether he wanted me involved or not. I tried to talk him off the ledge a little bit and then at some point you just you give up and and then then we do talk for a living so I have to tell people what I think. Yeah.
