hello and welcome back to the channel and thank you for joining me in another of my wonderful interviews and as you can see I'm not in my normal studio and if you've been watching recently you will know I've been up to Scotland in fact to creef to the hydro hotel in creef for a very special reason because that marvelous lady Barbara O'Neal has had a health Summit here and I'm very lucky because she's just agreed to join me to have a conversation Barbara welcome to the show it's good to be here Richard have you and
I know I have have you enjoyed the five days that we've been here with you delivering all your wonderful stuff I have and one of the reasons I know I have is because it's gone so fast you travel around the world doing this and and I know that lots of people will be obviously interested in all the health remedies and your books and this but I want to find out what it's like being such a popular person um and traveling around the world we hear of big film stars who have their Entourage and all of
this you've got the lovely Jacqueline who is looking after you what's it like going from Pillar To Post because I understand that you spend 10 months of the year on the road and only two months at home well it's uh it's certainly different and even if I was at home there's no children or grandchildren near me anyway um Australia's a very big place I got two daughters in Tasmania with their children I've got a few in Queensland uh I've got one daughter in America so they're all over the place anyway but I a simple lady
that really loves working in my garden and cooking and sewing and those simple things but God God has chosen me to do something else I had never have had or have wanted to to be famous or great but it appears that that seems to be what's happening and what's it like being in a different place every week what I do is I adjust wherever I am and I found that that's the key to be able to do it wherever I am I'm with people who are very interested in health people who are very excited to
see me and so it makes it easy yes it would be hard if I came to someone and said oh not you again that you know you're a threat to Public Safety that that would be a little difficult but that that is never the case I'm always with people who are interested in health who love what I teach so that makes it very very easy and everyone is a person everyone and I know everyone in God's eye is precious and special and so I really have just learned to love wherever I am I'm thinking that
um as you go around the internet of course has been something that is new for all of us um in the last 20 or so years H and in the old days you got famous by appearing on people's shows or having documentaries made about you so the internet is I mean certainly for people like me who set up a YouTube channel and and see where it will go but for somebody like you where you're so known internationally how have you found the transition from from being uh within Australia to suddenly being known across the world
yes I I don't think that my brain um really comprehends what's what's happening and I've always coped I mean you picture me in the rainforest no electricity with six children I just learned to to love the moment and live every day as it came and that's really what I do now never in my wildest dreams did I believe when I was uh washing the clothes in the in the rainforest and digging in the garden that I with a baby on my back that I would ever be to what I am today I think I I
still don't quite comprehend it but I I never get annoyed with people stopping me and a lot of people stop me I've got I've had a airline pilot stop me in fact recently I think in one airport about four flight attendant stop me I'm just happy to see how happy they are of how they've been helped yes that you know I love that and so I smile and I just say I'm glad but and I'll be sitting in my seat in the plane and someone will stop and say love what you do and I'll look
up and smile and and put my hand up so what it does mean re Richard that I can't eat an ice cream I can't smoke a cigarette I can't drink alcohol I I'm in a bubble yes and but you know I really don't mind because if I don't live what I preach I don't think I should be doing this that's very true and and I certainly you know as soon as you step outside the things you've spoken about people will suddenly ask me you know well are you paying a council tax are you pushing back
against this and all of this so and you have to be authentic and and honorable and all those things that that is so true and many are not like you would never get a painter whose paints falling off his house you would never get a plumber where the plumbers falling down on his house and that's that's what I feel a great responsibility to be to to be a living example of what I'm teaching you mentioned back then about the rainforest and about being there which is such a terrific image of being in tune with nature
we've seen over the last 50 years that removal of people from nature into these tarmaced glass concrete environments where nature is almost invisible true and where you see even um programs on the television for children which are normalizing cityscapes rather than nature how do we how do we get back to more in our we're stuck with what we've got now but how do we introduce more nature into our lives to stay healthy it's a good question Richard because not everyone can go into a rainforest and live the way the way I lived I think you
just do what you can and even if you're living in the city of London we we were very impressed when we were in London last week that there's not near as many overweight and obese people that we see in America Australian we see a lot of people bicycling we see a lot of parks and we had to be careful when we're walking into the park early in the morning cuz cyclists are whizzing backwards and forwards on the road and so even in that environment there are still the parks it's a matter of it's a matter
of stepping out and accessing what you can and even getting little pots where you have some aloe vera you have some parsley you have have some um rocket there's there's always little bits that that you can do no matter where you are one of the big things that you talk about is um clothing and things against our skin but because our skin as you and as I've remembered from the talks our skin is the first line of defense so many people are choosing artificial Fabrics which are not good for us and they you are dressed
in in the Scottish wool and you look resplendant of course and I'm now feeling slightly nervous that I have no idea really what I'm wearing but that's the thing we don't know what we're wearing anymore no it's true and I often quote that little book the ministry of healing where she says the only hope of better things is the education of people in the right principles and yes when I first read that I thought yes getting people to exercise uh drink more water eat more plants we we never actually think much about the fabric that
we're wearing and yet we the consumer have the power we if we all said I'm going to stop the Nyon acrylic polyester I'm going to go for my natural fiber uh that that little thing can make such a change it can make a change in us because now our bodies are wearing Fabrics that are natural yes we come from d we go back to dust we're wearing we're wearing the sheep's wool that you know from the sheep that came from the dust you know it's all it it is all connected but not only that is
the economy it affects the economy so we have had of speakers this week saying we can change this world you know I think we can and a lot of people think little old me but this world is full of little old mes absolutely um and and I know you're a great um advocate for local and seasonal which is something again that in the global society that we're in and the big supermarkets providing strawberries and various things out of season that we we should get back to those local things and I know you have reasons for
it yeah that that is true and as a nutritionist looking at the body um how it breaks down food how it functions that the foods that are in season are actually the very foods that our body needs in that climate at that time of year so that's that's also important and another important fact is that the food that's available and it is usually the cheapest that that's what's that's what's actually grown now yes and my husband pointed this out to me once when I was summer and I went to the markets and they had a
whole box of grapes for $6 I got two boxes came home and I was so proud of my purchase and he looked at and he said they're last year's grapes I said how do you know he said look at the stem the stems were dried up and brown he said if they were new season grapes the stem would be green I hadn't even thought of that and and if you and well that's it I'm sure most most Housewives or husbands whatever probably also don't know because the food we we barely looked look at Food yes
yes and you look at the old Italian woman in the fruit and vegetable shop she's smelling everything yes and I always get my husband to get the peaches because he smells everything yeah no absolutely um but that's I mean you mentioned there I mean food is obviously part of the the Whole Health picture for you and you mention it very very frequently but even then grow green grossers certainly in this country um are barely on the High Street butchers have disappeared pretty much all the small uh independent shops that you would get personal service and
who know about what it is and where the food has come from are disappearing that's true that must that must affect the health of people it absolutely does um when we went first to the town well it's a hour from where we live it's called kempsey there was a big shop there called barsby and I loved going in there because it had a habitatery department that's all the your clo you know your fabrics and your Cottons and then it had a ladies clothes men's clothes and in the old days that's what it was and the
lady in the habitatery department she'd worked there for 50 years isn't that wonderful she knew everyone in the shop but you're talking more about food and I agree when I was a little girl there was a butcher shop there was a bakery the bread shop then there was you call it a green grocer the vegetable shop but when you go to America now everything's huge they're all huge big supermarkets like costos and Walmart and when you go in there there's everything everything from food even in America to guns gosh to to clothes everything's there and
you look on the label made in China made in China made in China and that's why I say to people support your local Industries and I think it's tragic that in Scotland and Ireland the only people buying the wool are the tourists so if I want to buy some wool socks I have to go to the tourist shops yes and you're probably paying over the odds yeah at the same time you mentioned uh America and I have been to America twice on two two we road trips RPS and it's a fascinating uh place I'm not
sure I personally would want to live there uh but it's great to visit um as you say everything is very big and the people do you despair I mean you've been going back to these places do you despair that people are not getting healthier that what would be your thoughts Richard often depends on the circles that you mix with yes obviously in the circles I mix with and the people that come to my meetings they're interested in it but in the little town of Al of Rowan Oak Alabama near and it's about 20 minutes from
a health Retreat that I usually run there once or twice a year the people are just huge and the and the food and you know what's what's the most popular because that's right out in the aisles it's just white cakes with green icing and pink I icing you know boxes and boxes and boxes of this and one can Despair and then one goes to Ireland and then one goes to the Happy peir this wonderful shop where this identical twins these guys I think they're in their 40s now have this amazing restaurant they don't call it
vegan because half the people wouldn't come cuz unfortunately vegan's got such a bad name and in some cases it's warranted but it's the most beautiful food and they're lined up out the street wow and they have sourdough breads they have local little uh you know uh fruit and vegetables that's grown I love going there and you go there and you're revived you go there and you're encouraged because you know that there is a movement and it's all almost a popular movement among amongst the young people you know to be a little bit different you go
to America and yes there are pockets of that so I've got a friend who has a bread company s gluten-free and he's making 6 to 8,000 loaves a day my goodness so you see that you know obviously it's popular yes so and his bread is all organic and I love it he's only about 45 I think and he's fit and young and got a family and I love supporting local businesses and I love in my lectures to say please go to the farmers markets go to those little Shops and and support them walk past the
big companies and a lot of people don't think about where is their dollar going but when I was in uh Germany a few weeks ago up near the Baltic Sea walking around the Baltic Sea and there were little towns and Shops and and restaurants and outside there were tables and chairs but it was a bit cool right so there were little blankets little blankets on every chair I thought oh isn't that nice until I got up close polyester blankets I was so discouraged now you see all of those polyester blankets you know I ended up
seeing hundreds of them what were they 50 years ago they would have been Woolen yes and when that does a light rain or a spray off the Sea comes it land on the wool and it just sits there yes yes and it really keeps you warm and I that's why with my dying breath Richard I will do this because the world needs to know because so many people they got this lovely fluffy blanket on their Lounge it's polyester yeah and they say oh but it's so sft I said yeah but it's plastic it's a total
deception I suppose people are are really only now in the last say five years I think the um the vaccine that we went through has started to make people think more about their health this great big Global initiative that people should do something to help them now whether or not of course we may disagree with whether it was useful or not dancing on eggshells on YouTube um but it has brought a lot more people's attention to health and things that relate to health like you say with the clothing with the Plastics the microplastics that are
everywhere so do you find that you're becoming more popular all the time with the messages that you're giving out I think it is so 2020 lockdown we were locked down a lot of people in their homes started to Google and so it was actually because of the lockdown a lot of people discovered me right instead of being at work all day and busy busy busy they were sitting and so they started scrolling and they they found things so I think that's interesting so I think that's one point and another point is I think people started
to think this this isn't right there must be something else and also I know in Australia in some hospitals you could not go in unless you'd had the shot so a lot of people were confronted with looking at health for a few reasons the lockdown the restrictions on freedom the restrictions on going to what we have been taught from young children that's where you go if you get sick but also getting frustrated with well my child's been on antibiotics for six weeks now and she's still got an ear AE you know just been confronted with
so there's a few different things here I would like to think that a lot of people's eyes have been opened but then when I talk in other circles I wonder yes I know what you mean um only a few weeks ago my partner Julia's son tripped and fell and had a a nasty gash on his head um and we sort of were a bit nervous about going to a hospital because we thought what will they do how's it going to happen but in the end it was okay we did take him in but I was
looking at the other in the uh children's area as he was being attended to and there were babies and I spoke to one woman and she and this poor little baby was very upset and crying he was on his second um week's lot of antibiotics for something and you just think oh my God what what are you doing you've not even given any other option a chance that's a very strong message that you give in your talk it it is a strong message and really it's that very thought that very aspect that really rocketed me
into this I have felt the frustration of having a sick child I've just been given the fifth course of antibiotics I don't want to give her any more antibiotics but I don't want to put her at risk I don't want her to go deaf like everyone's telling me that that is a very very uh frustrating um place to be in and that is why I really do what I do because I want to show parents grandparents that there actually is another way and I was so excited when my book sustained me finally was printed I
think the graphic designer had it for a year but when I look at what he did I I am very thankful he did a beautiful job I wanted it to be a handbook on natural remedies and I think it would be wonderful if every home had one so if there's a problem we look it up yes and this is another Point Richard nip it in the bud so as soon as something happens you start to work on it but another thing and I say this to mothers many times do you know that every child in
the whole world has had a sore throat did you know that every child in the whole world has had a fever do you know that every child in the whole world gets a cold and if you do nothing it will pass that's actually the first thing I say but these simple natural remedies can bring relief that's very interesting because if you look at today's families we're split apart we used to live very much more as bigger families and advice was handed down from grandparent to mother to so on and and now you know sometimes when
I'm listening to you I think goty that's what my grandmother would have said um but we're in such an immediate world people want instant remedies and they'll go to the doctor and Trust In Those Old Ways seems to have waned it it um it has and I think you just mentioned one important Point Richard is quick fixes someone has a rash they put cortisone on it's gone there was a girl here this week and I knew she was on cortisone her whole body was red and she only looked like she was in her 30s and
she was now addicted to ctis for eczema she said what do I do I said make the dietary changes and then you're going to have to ease off very slowly the body's going to object but you just have to go very very slowly so they're quick fixes it's almost like buy now pay later yeah and and we know how that goes you buy furniture like that falling apart by the time you've got to pay for it that's right so you have to get another one that that is true that there's this time factor and that's
why I give the story of my daughter emmer at the age of five saying mom I'm going to grow up in a minute I give that story as a point that Emma didn't grow up in a minute in fact it took her another 15 years I'm still growing up yes yes but I give it as an illustration and you know a spoonful of medicine sugar helps the medicine go down I say a spoonful of laughter gets a point in a little bit further a little bit further then it it's going to take a little bit
of time and I also used the other cliche it took 20 years to get this but it won't take 10 20 years to undo but it might take a year might take a year so it's patience yes and do you think people have got patience no no and I have to tell you Richard I haven't in fact when my wrist was in plaster for 6 weeks I think it was the longest 6 weeks of my life but in the Bible it says in everything give thanks so I said thank you Father in Heaven it's not
my right hand well of absolutely and thank you Father in Heaven it wasn't my foot I can walk so it's and I think that also helps with healing is to is to be thankful is to be thankful well yes this happened but I could be dead all right that's why I use that statement that a lady said to Mark what if I wake up dead well you wouldn't have to worry too much I suppose you you you mentioned thanking God let let you use a lot of Bible quotes in there um and you're using that
presumably there's a lots of people in the audience who may or may not be religious they may not even follow the same religion that you do you're quite um you're Fearless of using that in different environments do you ever get any push back I actually don't and I am very respectful I'm very mindful of where I am and who I'm speaking to so in qua Lampa when I was speaking to Hindus and Muslims and I could see siks from many different cultures I went very lightly and because I've memorized everything I I I present I
slip it in and keep moving and then I slip in a little bit more and keep moving and one lady said to me when you said a Bible verse I was about to leave but he said but she said but it was interesting and she said in the next Bible verse I wasn't as quick to want to leave and the next Bible verse I was sort of starting to handle it oh that is brilliant when when did you were you always religious were you brought up in a religious household or you know I was but
we only really talked about God for an hour on Sunday morning right and that was Presbyterian cuz I'm fifth Generations Scottish descent and then I did go a little bit wild I did drugs and alcohol and a whole lot of stuff and then when I was 25 I had two little children and some people moved next door and they were Christians and I was a little bit hesitant at first in fact the girl came over one day and said we're doing a Bible study would you like to come I said no thank you very much
in fact I was almost offended I thought oh not interested in Bible studies but you know little by little as we became friends and then also um my first husband had an affair which just broke my heart and these people were so tender they said let us pray for you and it just it it brought Comfort to my aching heart and I started to soften and then I discovered that they were vegetarians and I'd just become a vegetarian and they were seventh day Adventists and I started to look at some of their things and then
I remember thinking I don't want to be forced into anything so I started to read I thought I'm going to read the Bible for myself I don't want to be influenced by anything and I discovered things in there that just opened my eyes I discovered that wow God is interested in our health because I was a bit of a hippie I found things that I didn't even realize was in the Bible because often we as humans as children we go to church or we go to a religious thing and and we're just taught things we
don't look for ourselves and so after looking at all this I thought to myself I'm going to give this a go and so I remember the night I got down on my knees I said Father in heaven I'm going to give you a try and I decided to let God be my guide through life and I have to tell you Richard oh how long ago was that that so anyway I'm not good on math but I'm 71 now it was a long time ago and I believe it was one of the best decisions that I've
made because I didn't know what was ahead and I'm so glad God doesn't tell you what's ahead well exactly but uh my life went in ups and downs and I had some tragedies in my life and I ended up having to flee my Mountain Home when I was 40 with the clothes on my back uh and yet God always had a solution he always had a way through every situation so becoming a Christian didn't mean I was now on a better roses and of course every rose bush has thorns but what I found was I
was not alone and what I found was that there was a way and there was a solution through through every situation one of the most repeated verses that you've um said I think must be about taking advice could you just give us give us that verse because you do it so well I will and I'll even give you the next two afterwards I think that's important so it's Psalm 146 verse3 I was so excited to uh discover this verse Richard and I discovered it about 10 months ago put not your trust in princes no matter
who I talk to Richard they love it yes because I say well who are the princes they're the authorities and the authorities have hurt and disillusioned so many people so people are surprised that that's in the Bible put not your trust in princes neither in the son of man in whom there is no help his breath Goes Forth he returns unto his Earth in that very day his thoughts perish happy is he that hath the god of Jacob has his help whose hope is in the Lord his God that made Heaven Earth sea and all
that therein is which keeps truth forever fantastic my goodness um and it must have taken a while to to find those verses in the in the Bible that you suddenly yeah wait a minute that's I I like that I like that you know it goes on to to show opens the blind eyes and I mentioned this the other day that one of jesus' first things he read in the Bible was to set the captives free to open the blind eyes and dear I find that there's um application to health and last week in no it
was in Transylvania up in Romanian Hills a lady came to me she was 33 she had a walking stick and her story was just tragic this operation that operation this operation last thing a stem cell transplant that her body was now rejecting I tell you Richard IUS wanted to cry who had done this to her the princess yes the princess but you know what they think they're doing good not all of them I would argue that that some of them know exactly what they're doing but that you know that's it's what they're taught I'm not
against the doctor I think that there is some ethical doctors I think there were some excellent ones but they should not put their trust in the princes in the pharmaceutical companies absolutely yes and uh the pharmaceutical companies have caused with their greed so many problems so many so many and that's a continual thing I imagine that you're fighting you're fighting People's Natural reaction to go to their GP I mean when I was when I was young we had a family doctor he knew the history of the family and you know you'd go he actually I
think the very first of our doctors I remember being very small it was in his house and he had his own Consulting room now you know if you want to make an appointment 3 4 weeks if unless it's an emergency you got to fight with the receptionist that is true Richard and you know what the doctor was trained in Reading bodies right reading people now they read the computer reading bodies and I can remember the Johnson boys pushed me over when I was six and cut my knee on the cement mom took me to the
doctor Dr Johnson was his name and you know what he did he just taped my knee he was our family doctor yeah he just taped my knee so I actually have never had a stitch fantastic oh absolutely he just taped it but that but the art of diagnosis of reading a body reading the symptoms that's almost been lost yeah I I lost my left eye I had a a canba which is a bug and um I remember sitting there in front of the consultant and he started to type on Google what this problem was oh
no and at that point I said I'm sorry I don't have any faith in you anymore how old were you I was um it was it was only 15 years ago okay so and I saw him doing this and I just said you're the consultant you're looking it up on Google and he spouted some rubbish you know would we don't know everything and uh so he immediately discharged you he says I'm sending you to Mor fields in London now which actually was better I'm not going to say it's better treatment because I lost the eye
I was subsequently told iodine would have saved the eyee so um it's one of those things but one of those things it's one of those things but I'm pleased in a way I went through it because I I suffered something and I have a huge appreciation for people Richard did it open your eyes it's it certainly not only did it help me I can take it out put it in a glass of water but what it did do is it made me appreciate people can have pain and you can't see it it's true and unless
you know we always always normally say unless somebody's got a limp or they their blood's coming out or their arms are cut off or something that you that you think oh yeah you're going through something but people go through a lot of trauma that you never actually see and they're putting a brave face on yeah yeah and that's why I loved the book that I read the gift of Pain by Dr Paul brand and how he says if you don't listen to your first whisper the body will start screaming and when it starts screaming it's
doing damage and people have lost the art of listening they certainly have listening what what is your body telling you and instead of just taking something to kill that pain why is that pain there and investigating that's why I love that formula look at the history look at the symptoms I'll tell you what where to go and where to start and then watch your body's response what's your body saying I like this I can you please don't do it that way again yes I love the um the the the advice you give about listening to
the doctor and then withdrawing yes yes yes yes yes because so many people feel guilty or they feel they must but that's why I say thank you so much for your advice I'm going to I'm going to seriously consider this and if you have a child that's about the only way you can get out yes yes is to take that script and say I'm going to seriously consider this and I say leave quickly because there's a whole waiting room there yeah yeah and you and and I suppose we through this the way that we've been
brought up with our hands up at school to go and you know please can I go and relieve myself and do a natural biological function that you need permission to we've been LED all the time to obey Authority so when you're sitting in front of the GP and he's saying I think you should take this it's very difficult to fight the Earth for a lot of people to say actually uh no I'm not going to so I think you're it is far better because it's stressful to go into a dialogue my husband actually quite enjoys
it yes I can imagine that but it it's stressful to go into that dialogue and the other thing is if he thinks you're not doing right especially if it's a child he can arrange for social services to go and knock on your door and one lady told me they knocked on her door and said are you giving your baby food yet my goodness this is incredible and these were quite wealthy people they lived in a very beautiful house she was a violinist husband and accountant so so with this there's there's there's no limit to who
you are this organization has power and the other thing my husband pointed out so we're on the news every night 2021 and and the people that are making comments on this Co they're not doctors no they're newsmen yes and who's coming over on the news telling you what to do people with no medical training at all mind you the people with medical training you know you question that as well but we thought isn't that incredible and this thought came to my mind my grandfather was a light horseman in the first world war he went to
war with a total disregard for his safety to for my freedoms my freedoms are now being taken away from me under the guise of safety isn't that incredible yes it everything is for our benefit and yet when you look underneath the Bonnet there's nothing there yes where's the benefit yes it is not and that's why I love that rard Kipling's poem all we know of Freedom all we have in use this our fathers fought for us long and long ago long forgotten bondage dwarfing hearts and Minds this our fathers died to loose shall be bound
again beautiful it's called the old issue that's the name of the poem Oh brilliant you're obviously a a good reader you must read a lot in your travels around is is that do you take books with you I do I've got about four I'm reading at the moment I love reading and I love reading because I can read at my Pace I can note and every book teaches me something some books teach me a lot some books teach me a little bit and if someone says this is a good book read it I get it
straight away and a lot of the knowledge that I have in my mind yes it's experimental yes I've learned it yes I've got it from old ladies but a lot of it from books and a lot of people don't read enough but I tell you one book or two books they should be reading I believe there's a book called sustain me that's uh pretty popular at the moment um and the other one is called self-heal by Design self-heal By Design both of those of course by Barbara O'Neal and you you made reference to them and
people have bought them and my goodness people are so Keen to have you to sign them you must do loads of these signings and they tell you some fascinating things you told me about one lady connected to wool just relate that story for me oh it was very exciting for me Richard because I'm finding book after book and she had Tartan on and I said I love you Tartan she said I'm a shepherdess I said really she said yes I'm a shepherdess and thank you so much for what you said about wool about local industry
about our sheep thank you oh ladies and gentlemen the time has run out but it's been so lovely to meet you to listen to you to watch the people's reactions to you people love you you all around the world uh you are obviously sent here to do this work long may that continue sustain me and I always forget the second one self self heal by Design two books I'll put the links in the description do check them out um they will be available at the good food project and a big thanks to Steve for setting
this up Barbara it's been an absolute Joy thank you for spending 45 minutes or so with me good luck with whatever else you do we'll be following and Julia and I the first video we saw of you was where you were talking about Celtic Sea salt and water and getting it into the cell and we do that religiously every day so thank you for improving our health and everybody else's that's good to hear it's been a pleasure chatting with you thank you very much well there we are ladies and gentlemen I hope you enjoyed that
I'll be back with more monologues and more wonderful guests but until the next next time from the wonderful Barbara and myself goodbye