Thank [Applause] you ah thank you I'm very pyed to be here I was just I was coming in backstage this is our 11th City we've been in this month and you you have a kind of formula for how things work and I'm standing backstage and I see this ice bucket full of green bottles and I reached my hand I know what it Was it's Mountain Dew and I said I said the person I was talking with like why do we have Mountain Dew JD Vance drinks Mountain Dew actually drinks Mountain Dew and I know JD
Vance very well and and I know that he's like the most authentic person in politics but you often hear people say and you can feel it on him he's not he went to y Law School you Know he's not really from Appalachia I found the Mountain Dew okay that's for real you're not you're not drinking this they don't have this at the Aspen Institute trust me I was so impressed and I'm very sympathetic to I Love Actually his politics but I'm not going to I'm not going to try that sorry I'm my little perer I'm
not a man of the people um anyway thank you so much for coming I'm sorry it took so long to get in this is what happens when your Security is run by your opponent I think uh it's kind of hard to have an [Applause] event it's sort of a it's a funny system that we have no other country does that I don't think we'll just no we'll take care of security don't worry and uh just to make it super efficient we're going to let the TSA handle [Laughter] cuz when you want things to work smoothly
like when you're late for your Flight on Memorial Day Weekend uh anyway so I'm sorry about that we had no control over it um I'm not alleging uh anything other than what's totally obvious um oh this just amused me and I heard the media are here I don't know I know boo boo boo boo boo um and I I heard even the New York Times Politico uh they're all here no I don't know I just want them to stand up and announce who they're voting for if they would I don't Know I don't have my
glass on so I don't know where they are [Applause] um I can't hear what you're saying but I know I agree with you if if you are trying to express loathing I'm on your side and by the way I would know having spent uh over 30 years in their Lair and uh no amount of Sonic cold plunge hot bath combinations can scrape off the moral stain of us all the time That I spent there but anyway thank you so much so I'm going to um because we're running uh a little late I want to get
to the interview with Senator Vance pretty quickly but I just wanted to say and it's much more interesting than anything I'm going to say anyway but I just want to say something that he knows really well cuz he's been on the road since the convention but I'm just remembering since it's been a long time since I've been on the road which is That if you experience your country the one that you were born in um and that you love and your ancestors build and you will die in America If you experience it through your phone
which I hate to admit is mostly the way I do experience it um you really get a distorted picture of it and it feels like a country at war with itself and in fact we're told that very often this country is on the brink of Civil War and everybody hates everybody else on the Basis of immutable characteristic on the basis of race primarily but also of sex and then political affiliation and basically America is about to explode it's the crockpot you forgot to turn off and it's about to just blow up and wreck your [Music]
kitchen I love that you know it might be kind of an unsec like scream out a 1970s there a Leonard skinnard song in the middle of a Pause but to me I'm grooving with you baby I know EX exactly what you mean that's right I can't quite articulate what you mean but I know what you mean Frey bird anyway the point is you really get the sense that the country is at war with itself and that people really hate each other and when you travel it and we're going Coast to Coast for a month we
already have been Coast to Coast that's not the experience you have at All like at all actually I can just tell you as officially in the New York Times say Chronicle this at Great length as one of the most hated people in the world I kind of expected to be yelled at you know what I mean at like an airport or a Starbucks or the lobby of a hotel not one time and I no no it has nothing to do with me it's not because I'm so great or people secretly love me it's that Americans
secretly don't really hate each other which is kind of Amazing when was no it's true they don't and yet they have been convinced that they do and they have in fact been inspired to hate each other systematically for decades and I've watched this the entire presentation of American History again driven by the New York Times I've got to say wherever the correspondent is the entire presentation of New York of American History is designed to make you believe that this is a country based on Hate the hate of Americans for each other and they have been
telling this well I'm 55 so they've been telling it for at least the 50 years I can remember going to school they've been telling us this version and that that you know that is the core problem of the countries that people really really hate each other and looking back on I was I've been thinking of it all week I I don't think I've ever seen that ever not one time and what I see actually is just the Opposite I see people of all backgrounds and all beliefs totally determined to get along with each other and
doing it despite the encouragement of their leaders and I just think I think two things about that one I think it's quite revealing of our leaders because what leader wants the people he leads to hate each other that's like really the kind of the darkest thing you could ever want if You're a parent you know it is evil it is the definition of evil what parent wants his or her kids to hate each other you want the opposite because when you die the one thing you leave behind is the love of your children for each
other that's how your memory continues because your children love each other almost no parent needs to have this explained every parent knows it intuitively and it's not just the family the most basic and important Organization in human civilization it's every organization from your office to a military unit to your state to your country leaders have as their first and most sacred Duty the responsibility to unite the people who follow them to keep them whole to keep them together and to do the opposite of that systematically over decades using the media primarily but also now just
from The podium is evil it's absolutely evil because it's a perfect inversion of their Duty and they have tried harder than really any task they certainly haven't put their effort into managing the economy or Paving the roads or making it safe to walk to CVS they've done just the opposite because they've been so focused on making us hate each other that's the first thing I noticed so they're not just incompetent they're Really bad on a deep level actually no country deserves the leaders that we have no State deserves the leaders you have by the way
I can say I I've spent so much time in in in the Commonwealth of Pennsylania and I always think to myself how is the worst place in the state allowed to run the entire state I'm not going to name it but why do they have all the power why do the work the people with the Longest track record of failure have total control over the rest of the state which is beautiful and filled with great people like how does that work that doesn't look like democracy to me but you can extrapolate outward to an entire
country and say how does a country of 350 million great people have such rotten leaders and that really is a theological question that I can't answer but it does and here's the last thing I'll say before introducing Senator jvd Advance my friend they haven't succeeded and that is something to Marvel at and to celebrate and to really deeply think about everyone's always shocked particularly in these last four years since I'll put it precisely since Memorial Day 2020 when the revolution began without telling us um and the country that you grew up in and all of
its institutions turned upside down and things you really loved and respected Disappeared and people who are close to you vanished from your life and really it's been chaotic since then All By Design and everyone I know I think most people who are paying attention have had occurred to them at one time or another like wow there's so much evil in the world I'm shocked and that's true clearly but what too few people very much including me pause to consider is how much good there is in the world good that makes no Sense the love between
people who don't know each other who have nothing obviously in common except their common americanness their citizenship here people who are not gaining anything by being kind to each other in fact who are encouraged not to be kind to each other and are any way what's that that is as every bit as unnatural as the evil that we see it does not exist in nature it is outside of nature it is Supernatural and that is moving among us too and I I think it's worth celebrating that and if you look around this room the first
thing you realize is all that's stuff they told you about how you were crazy because you noticed turns out you're not crazy because there are thousands of people sitting right next to you who had exactly the same instincts and they came from very different places to arrive at the same Destination which is a commitment to being honest with themselves and those around them that's all it is it's honesty it's not political it's not ideological it's being unwilling to lie and every person in this room at one level or another at one time or another has
arrived at the exact same conclusion which is I'm just going to say what I think is true and it turns out it's not just you sitting alone in your wreck room Throwing beer cans at the TV feeling like a freak it's most people in this country and there's no greater blessing than knowing that so on that note of totally non political hope I want to introduce Senator JD Vance of Ohio running with Donald Trump uh so you actually do drink Mountain Dew you're not Joking uh Diet Mountain Dew yeah yeah it's my favorite drink um
you need a lot of you need a lot of caffeine on the campaign Trail though it's interesting it's become a bit of a thing because I probably had like one Diet Mountain Dew a week before I started running for uh for vice president and then I like started talking about it and then people always brought me Diet Mountain Dew so now I drink like three of them a week is one of many ways in which my health has Gotten much worse but um I will say so you're not endorsing it from a medical standpoint is
that what you're saying no no not at all um but I will say tucker it's it's awesome to be here not just like because I've been looking forward to this but 2 hours ago I was thinking to myself I'm going to have to call Tucker and cancel like I'm not going to be able to come and the the reason is because we have our kids with us and I took my boys on the campaign Trail we Did a bunch of events all over Pennsylvania which is a great state and it's great to be here and
we go to Hershey Park right which is just across the street Hershey Park's Great and my son says my seven-year-old says if I go on a roller coaster with you you have to go on this like spinny ride with me and so legitimately it's one of these things where it not it's not just Spinning around but then the thing that you're sitting in is also spinning around so it's like spinning within spin and legitimately 3 and 1/2 seconds in I think to myself I'm going to throw up all over this ride and my you know
it's like now that I'm a vice presidential candidate I'm much more you know people know who I am and so there are like 10 separate iPhones that are tuned on me and all I can think to myself is if I throw up in this thing it's going to be Like one of those old sprinklers you know t and I and I so I so I like White Knuckle Clos my eyes my 7-year-old and my four-year-old like Dad what's going on I'm like I'm trying not to throw up boys just you know leave daddy be and
then we get off the ride and I am so nauseous I'm like I'm going to have to cancel tonight because I'm going to go home to the hotel I think you're looking at it wrong puking on the Tilted world Is the most authentically American thing you could do no one would ever call you a phony again I booted on the tilt whir I mean honestly from Mountain Dew yeah so anyway I'm feeling a lot better now and it's great to be with you and how's how's it going while you tell me you're running for national
office I'm just I don't even know what I do for a living at this point um but neither do I so where I mean it's always hard asking someone who's running for office like do you think you're going to win where are we but I would say and you explained this so well in a conversation we had recently the polls really are designed to deceive many of the public polls probably not all but many and the campaigns not just yours but the Democrat party's campaign do have access to the most accurate polls so you know
being as honest as you can be where are We where we are is we're going to win and I feel 100% confident about that um look I if if you if you go back in time four years there was a poll in the runup to the 2020 election maybe the 2016 election actually that had Donald Trump losing Wisconsin by 17 points okay and of course in 2016 he won the state of Wisconsin and what you realize is the purpose of these polls is very often subversion like they're trying to depress you so they put out
a poll in Wisconsin that says Donald Trump is going to lose by 7 points even though that's an election he eventually went on to win and I think that there's a lot of that happening right now though I I I I will say even with the idea that the polls are fundamentally biased I mean you know we have internal polls that we pay a lot more money for because it's I mean this is a very nerdy point but you have to reach the right people to actually get an accurate poll and Because most Trump supporters
like if you called my family members and said hey I'm from such and such research are you going to vote for Donald Trump they would say F you and hang up the phone right so because of that it's very hard to pull actual Donald Trump supporters but you can if you're willing to actually go out and seek those people and do the right things and look the internal polls are great I think that we have to work our rear ends off over the Next 45 days and you know there's the there there's something really interesting
about this election Tucker which is that if you sort of take the people who voted in 2020 versus the people who voted for Biden in 2020 the people who voted for Trump in 2020 we probably about even there like I I sort of give it a 50-50 chance but there are a lot of marginal voters meaning people who don't always show up to the polls and if they show up they're like 7030 For Donald Trump so it's basically the name of the game is you can't get depressed and give up on your country you have
to get out there and vote because if you do we're going to win so get out there and vote and we'll win and the so it I mean look the the story the story of basically the last 30 years in my view is that our leadership has turned the American people into poppers In their own country right you're not going to own anything God you know no way you're going to own a house because the leadership has made it way too expensive to buy a house and plus interest rates are too high you're not going
to have real Public Safety in your communities because we're going import 25 million people we're going to overstress the legal system we're going to overstress the police system you're not actually going to have a decent job Because we want to ship way too many middle class jobs off to China off to Mexico and so the American people I think they're fed up with it they're saying we don't give a what you think about us we're going to vote for our own interests and we're going to vote to save our country but but the thing that
is that is really meaningful and and and you know if if I worry about anything it's that we're Going to get lazy and we're going to rest on our Laurels and we're not going to get out there and actually pound the pavement and vote there are way too many people who know that the country is broken who know that kamla Harris would make a terrible president but they have to actually get out there and do the thing that all of us have to do which is vote it's very simple we did an interview a couple
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see a bunch of pretty high-profile Democrats coming to your campaign to endorse your campaign and you see Honestly some high-profile Republicans go over to K Harris corre so just to put it in one sentence you got Bobby Kennedy and they got Dick Cheney and his horrible daughter a hell of a trade by the way I'll take that trade every day and twice on Sunday and I I didn't mean to I can't remember her name so I'm to go with horrible daughter but I think it's fair um what how would you describe that realignment like what
is that well I I Think there are a couple things going on so first of all if you spend any time in professional Washington which I've spent a couple years there you realize that one of the things that gives a lot of people meaning is like playing a chess game with the lives of other people's children right and of course if you think like that you're kind of a sio and you shouldn't be anywhere near power but Washington is full of people who really like to go out and play strategic games With the lives of
other people's children and there's probably nobody who better represents that of course than Liz and Dick Cheney who their entire politics for the past 30 years has been using American power to inflame tensions in the world to draw the United States deeper and deeper into foreign conflict which either shouldn't exist at all or certainly the United States shouldn't have any business in and I think that The but and I and I think so that's one thing that's going on is if you don't think the United States should get involved in every stupid war in the
world then you're a Republican and if you think the United States should send billions of dollars and tons of innocent Americans to die in some foreign country then you're going to be a Democrat and that's kind of crazy right because it was sort of exactly the opposite probably 40 50 years ago but then there Are other two two other big issues the three things that really matter one is foreign policy the you know our side I think is rational and restrained we don't want to fight every ridiculous war and we're like worried about getting involved
in World War III because we should be because we have nuclear weapons now and you have to be cautious about that stuff the second big issue is in my view over immigration right if if you sort of look at at the Liz Cheney Dick Cheney view their basic argument is let's flood the United States with Millions upon millions of foreign laborers because that's good for business and there are those of us who are saying well is it actually good for social cohesion isn't it good for workers hell no so we're not going to accept that
the third thing and the third thing that I think really divides the parties and it's you know it's like me Bobby Kennedy Tulsi Gabard Donald Trump were sort of all on the same page on this is do you think that the United States should ship its entire industrial base to foreign countries some of which hate us and if you think that's insane like I do then you're going to vote for Donald Trump and if you think it's a great idea to ship our industrial base overseas you're welcoming the party of K Harris and Dick Cheney
and that's basically it and th and those three issues Tucker have Divided people I I think have divided the entire country but actually only the leadership class cuz I actually think that like 70% of Americans agree with our viewpoint on these issues I just think that the leadership of this country has gotten so deranged that they convinced themselves that there's a great American majority for fighting a ton of Wars importing a ton of illegal aliens and shipping all the jobs overseas and I just don't think There is I I would say it's higher than 70%
consensus and you know that because The Advocates of the positions you just described will never admit that they're advocating for them no one will ever say yeah we just brought in tens of millions of illegal aliens they they lie about the fact they did it so clearly there's no constituency for that no that's exactly right and you know this has been a big issue with some of the microscope that's been put on communities that have Accepted a large number of Haitian migrants in the past couple of years so in Springfield Ohio about 20,000 there's a
community in Pennsylvania that's I think is accepted about 2500 and in a town of about 4,000 people so there there are people who say that this is fundamentally necessary because unless you import all of these people that there aren't going to be any jobs and I actually think that sort of gets it exactly upside down the reason why People left these communities is because our leadership shipped all of their jobs to Mexico and China and other countries so if you want to fix the problem bring economic Prosperity back to our country don't bring 2500 or
25,000 foreign laborers into small town America amen but it also raises a a I think an even deeper philosophical question which is who are you serving who's your loyalty to I don't care how screwed up and fentel ridden and po Industrial your little town is the people who live there are American citizens and they own the government and so the people in charge have to care about them but they don't at all they care about their donor who think that their businesses will benefit from importing an entirely new class of workers but like aren't our
leaders required to care about the current occupants of those towns I would think so I would think so well here Here's here's one way I'd put it is and I picked this up this is actually when we became friends initially right is we were at some like massive Bankers conference and I had just written hillbilly I feel dirty thinking about it yeah and and I I realized that like what what I had done in hillbilly LG was write a very personal story about my grandmother and my mom and my sister and there's sort of Triumph
and there's trial and you know my mom struggled with Addiction and then she got clean and my grandmother raised me and it was it was very much a personal story and what I realized at that conference and that others like it is that a lot of our leaders liked the book not because they really sort of sympathized with the story but be it gave them an opportunity you they pick one paragraph out and say oh well this thing shows that these middle American you know workingclass people are bad or they're racist or They're not worth
focusing our attention on or we shouldn't save their jobs or like whatever they use as an excuse to ignore the citizens of their own country and I started to feel kind of dirty about participating in this way that our our leaders used my book to try to look down on their fellow citizens rather than maybe learn something about their fellow citizens and recommit them to making their lives better and that fundamental breakdown you see in our Politics like all the time Tucker because look there is nothing that pisses off America's leadership class there's nothing that
angers kamla Harris more than when a workingclass person in the heartland of this country complains about what a bad job she's doing and you know when you when you when you think about when you think about you know th this charge that our leaders constantly make they'll say well you don't want 20,000 low-wage migrants Showing up in your town you don't want to be evicted from your home to make way for four Haitian families who by the way are violating zoning laws to live in this house you're a racist that's what they'll say now think
about this what they're really doing is saying you are not allowed to speak up about our leadership screwing up and when you realize this is the game that play I mean look I you you you and I agree with this I I I I think we should genuinely Endeavor to look at every human being as a child of God whether they're black white brown or anything else I think that is an absolutely good principle but I I I think that when our leaders call workingclass Citizens who have almost no power in America in 2024 when
they call them racist it's not because they're trying to call them to some higher meaning they're not trying to convince them to be more compassionate to their fellow man they're trying to silence Them and shut them up and when you realize that our leadership is willing to take the compassion like what's Best in us that we love our fellow man and we love our fellow Americans and use it as a weapon to silence people you realize that kamla Harris and everybody like her it is a disgusting game that they play and we have to reject
it I I I couldn't agree more I mean it's I just say let me say again I think it's evil it's evil to leverage someone's Decency against him it's the lowest possible thing you could do but I have to ask and I don't know the answer this question but you spent time on both sides you know growing up in where you did in Ohio going to the Marine Corps and then you know going to Y and all that oh go Ohio uh there is it's more than just like getting people to shut up so they
can loot the country which is clearly part of it but there's an there's a loathing There there's a hatred there oh yes and I don't understand where that comes from why would you hate people who live in communities that your friends flooded with fenyl like why would you be mad at them they're the ones whose life expectancy is going down what did they do wrong if there was ever a group of victims it's rural Americans so why would you hate them that's it doesn't make sense to me but they do why so I don't know
that I have a perfect answer To this but I think that rural America and the problems of Rural America just show how much their entire worldview is broken and so it sort of reflects back at them their own failure and their own lack of concern for their fellow citizens right so it it's it's like one thing to say well we're going to ship all the jobs to China and we'll get a bunch of you know cheap plastic toys in exchange or oh we're going to invade Iraq and you know yeah it's going to be A
total disaster and we'll kill a lot of innocent people but like we don't really have to think about it after the war is over or yeah you know we'll let 20,000 Haitians into this small town but you know the the employers will be happy because they'll get some cheap labor and then we won't have to think about it but but when the the rural people or the small town people the workingclass people start complaining about it then You have to actually confront whether these things that you have done have actually made people's lives better and
I think that you sort of you know confronted with that right so so you and I have a mutual friend I won't use his name um where you know he was a huge advocate of the war in Iraq and by the way I was 18 years old but I also was an advocate of the war in Iraq I in fact enlisted in the Marine Corps in April of 2003 we invaded in March of 2003 simpy To all the Marines out there but so I but like okay the war turned into a total disaster a lot
of Young Americans got killed a lot of innocent people got killed and I like that should cause a thinking person to evaluate well what were the like processes in my brain that led me to think that this was a good idea and how can I change so that I don't get it wrong the next time and I think we have a lot of friends who got it wrong but they can't Have that conversation with themselves because it's like too morally challenging like like they wouldn't be able to look themselves in the mirror if they realize
oh I did this thing that led to tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of innocent people losing their lives and so you could either do that thing you can either re-evaluate and say maybe I screwed up maybe I was wrong maybe I should rethink how I understand the world like maybe Donald Trump isn't a threat to democracy maybe the person who's a threat to democracy is kamla Harris who is running for president without a single vote but you you you can you you can say to yourself oh I screwed up and I'm going to think
about it better or you can say the people who are complaining are bad and evil people and the reason they're complaining is not because I screwed up but because they are screwed up people and I think That's what I I I genuinely think that's what our leadership does and I you know there are people there are people who are legitimately friends of mine who I think legitimately hate hate the community that I came from because the community that I came from refuses to say oh yeah we're really glad that based on patriotic cinate we we
volunteered at record levels to enlist in the Marine Corps the Army the Navy and the Air Force and then you send us off to a Really stupid war or we we really love that you used to be able to go and raise a family on a single Middle Class Manufacturing income but now that's really hard to do because of KL Harris's inflation crisis but also because you guys shipped all the jobs to China right the people who refuse to say thank you for making my life miserable are a they they they they represent a an
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use the promo code Tucker for a big discount I I I'm glad this is on tape cuz I this is not flattery I mean it I've been interviewing politicians for over 30 years and I I can't remember ever hearing an analysis that deep and true from any of them um and I'm also struck by the fact that I know most of The Republicans in the Senate maybe one or two exceptions I can't imagine any of them saying 90% of what you just said and yet you were on the ticket with Donald Trump so that makes
me think that the Republican party is actually changing this time do you think that's true I mean I so I I absolutely do and I think there's always going to be this kind of effort from the old guard establishment to try to return us to the Old ways the old broken ways so it's not like a war that's totally over but I do think that we're currently winning and look I I have to give a ton of credit to my running mate the guy at the top of the ticket Donald J Trump because I and
and you know this and probably a lot of you in the audience know this like I was a trump critic back in 2016 and it's funny when all of these when Biden was still running and all of these Journalists trying to like confuse how obviously unfit Biden was to serve in the Oval Office they'd be like well Biden's really old but you know Trump isn't a spring chicken anymore either and and when people would say that I'd be like guys Donald Trump remembers a tweet that I sent on September 3rd 2015 he remembers the time
and he remembers exactly what I said to the word like this guy's memory is as sharp as a attack in fact I wish that it wasn't cuz My life would be a lot easier but this is there these are not two 70-year-old people who are running for president who are in the same mental one clearly has the energy to do the job and one clearly doesn't and what [Applause] what but you I mean I I've seen this now having been in the belly of the Beast for all of two years but I really wish that
I had been on board earlier because what Trump dealt with in 2016 it cannot Be overstated and I'm talking about like friends of yours friends people he had been friends with for 30 years calling him and attacking him or going on national television and lying about him when you challenge this aifi broken ruling class in this country there is hell to pay for it and I've got just a little bit of the taste of it I think Donald Trump has gotten a hundred times worse than I have and obviously you know he almost got literally
killed just 7 Weeks ago and then again like 3 days ago but Trump if he hadn't won the primary and if he hadn't won won the general election the Republican Party would be broken he fixed it and actually created an opportunity for us to build something that's durable and that can work for the Long Haul and and I think you know so I was his I think I was his first endorser in the United States Senate and like all of my Political advisers are like why are you doing this it's way too early in the
primary and it's because having not been on board in 2016 I realized that the 2024 primary would really be this sort of fundamentally no matter who challenged him and there were a lot of good people fundamentally that challenged him it would ultimately come down to the Old Guard versus the pro-worker pro-america party and I just knew that's how the dividing lines would Ultimately shake out because the Old Guard because a lot of them knew Donald Trump in business because a lot of them know that he knows what they're up to they hate him more than
almost anybody and they hate him because he does actually fight for the American people and he does actually care about the citizens of his own country and and you can look one thing one thing I'll say about President Trump that that is genuinely unique is Look he obviously is incredibly successful and incredibly wealthy like I'm never never nobody's going to ever pretend that Donald Trump is a workingclass person at least now in his life but Trump actually really likes the people that he leads and that includes by the way that that includes by the way
the people who didn't vote for him he still really likes those people and that is I think what is very different about President Trump versus frankly most of America's leadership is when the cameras are off and they don't think anybody's listening they talk about how much they think their own citizens are dumb or well yeah the public thinks this because the public doesn't understand economics or well if the public was just smarter they would realize uh how how smart are you know KLA Harris is for wanting to like destroy Social Security and Medicare for illegal
immigration right They actually think that their own people are stupid and they don't like them but Donald Trump actually likes people and I think it's one of the the secrets to success as a political candidate well what watching him order at McDonald's is like one of the most amazing things ever it's hysterical it's impossible to imagine Carmel or whatever she's calling herself Harris like talk to the lady behind the counter about the differences in quality and Weight and price between the quarter pounder in the Big Mac and he he has such strong feelings about it
I me he's really no he and thought about it a lot well and again this goes to his his leadership style Donald Trump actually really cares of what people think so he he he has absolutely thought to himself what is the better value between the quarter pounder and the Big Mac and and he wants he actually wants to know what the people who work there think about This question and by the way like I have very strong views about this like obviously the Quarter Pounders is a better deal I right that's absurd without secret sauce
it's not even worth going there but whatever I mean you know honest people disagree Mar Winston I get it you've allowed yourself to be manipulated by the elites the secret sauce is not the thing that matters it's the amount of meat you get way more meat with a quarter pounder and it's Obviously again but look the the the the point is okay so let me give you an example of this so the Saturday morning that President Trump was shot I don't know if I ever talked about this publicly but um I was down in Mar
Lago for the first time talking about becoming his Vice Presidential nominee and it was kind of this crazy thing cuz all these reporters would stick microphones in my face and say you know you're clearly on the short List and have you talked to president Trump about it and I'd say no I haven't in fact I don't even know if I'm actually on the short because I've never spoken with him so the Saturday morning I'm in maral Lago we're talking about the VP thing and he you know he's like you know I like to talk to
everybody about who should be the VP like you know I spent about 30 minutes talking to the gardener at Mar Lago about who who I thought who he thought should be the Vice Presidential nominee and and I'm sitting there you know Sweating Bullets like well sir what did the Garder at marago have to say about who should be the VP because this is a question that actually really impacts my life so do you know the gardener or is random no just just a but again like he actually likes to know what people think about things
that's one of his secrets of success as a political leader so anyway he goes to you know Pennsylvania He doesn't tell me that it's me um he says that it's probably going to be you I'm like oh thanks that makes me feel great I'm I'm totally going to sleep great tonight knowing it's probably going to be me he flies to Bucks County Pennsylvania of course is nearly assassinated God bless you guys and he you know like then he makes the decision I think the next day or maybe even Monday morning I don't know right I
don't know when he actually Finally made the decision probably was just Monday morning now that I think about it you probably know better than I do anyway the point the point is he again I actually think that if you care about the people that you represent and the people that you lead you should want to know what they think about an issue and whatever disagreement you might have with President Trump he genuinely cares about what people think about an issue and it's why I think he's better plugged Into what the electorate thinks than most political
candidates I think that's right um the the switch up the The Disappearance of the president of the United States Biden is still president technically correct I don't know I don't either and I I really don't know I don't know what happened to him he was like pretty famous at one point and then he's just gone I saw some I saw some clip on social media that like Jill Biden was Running a cabinet meeting is that was that real or was that for sure she's a doctor JD settle down she's got this okay and anyone who
hasn't read her dis dissertation on community colleges in the state of Delaware really should see where the doctor comes from she literally is a part of it where she's like breaking down the proportion of by ethnicity of students and she's like it's about 40% Caucasian about 37% African-American it's another 39% Hispanic and then another 22% Asian and I'm like I'm not good at math but wait wait a second no I'm you should read Dr Jill's dissertation it's unbelievable anyway she's running the government just so you know I don't think that adds up to 100 I'm
gen no it does like 147 actually but whatever she's a doctor but here's my question um and I don't mean to finger the media in this um sorry I'm sorry I spent my life in a news Rim it's vulgar I now Um like KLA Harris went from being like regarded as a buffoon by everybody including you know every Democrat I know you're constantly reading about you know only Montel Williams likes or whatever everyone made fun of her and then like within 24 hours she's this historic Statesman how was the media able to pull that off
honestly yeah with I mean a lot a lot of shamelessness I mean I you know one of The things that we say on the campaign Trail because it's true is that you know we do a lot of interviews like me and president Trump do a ton of interviews with hostile media with friendly media with everybody in the middle and KLA Harris doesn't now part of the argument that we're trying to make is to the American people you shouldn't trust a person who's so terrified of the media that she runs away from them you like you
can't trust that person in a private Meeting with XI jingping but part of what we've been trying to do too is actually shame the American Media which is totally like it's total historical revisionism right before our eyes I mean my my my wife even who's a totally a political person but right after they did Thea Switcheroo she sent me like a bunch of clips of different people and how they spoke about kamla Harris like 3 months ago and how they speak about kamla Harris today And it's totally flipped and we've been trying to shame the
American Media into looking themselves in the mirror and asking her some tough questions and actually reporting on a record and you know what we've learned Tucker the American Media has no shame and like I mean here I can feel presence like you run into them on the road what do they say well they'll say in private almost all of them will say yeah it's really ridiculous or in public They'll say well you know we hope that she'll give us an interview and it's like well but the Democratic process requires that she gives you an interview
before people start voting like your job if you have any job and by the way to the reporters out there I know you're some of you are out there like your job is to not repeat kamara's propaganda without at least getting a chance to ask her a question about it and that's what well but it's really simple I've Been in the media my whole life I know how it works if you want a politician to do something you attack that politician until the politician does what you want yeah and so they could make KL harrris
give interviews to everybody from TMZ to The Washington Post editoral page just by attacking her every day but they won't why well because unfortunately most of the American Media we need to be honest about this though most of the American Media is in fact part of the Very corrupt system that they pretend to report on right that's that's that's the answer so okay so if if you're I mean first of all the the news media business has been totally decimated by big Tech by the way like the reason why we don't really have local papers
anymore is in a 20-year period all of the advertising Revenue that used to go like classified ads in local papers now goes through Google Facebook so forth so if you're a Journalist there's a very good chance that your paycheck fundamentally depends on the people who are getting rich off of the system now that doesn't mean by the way and and I know a lot of them and I I actually like them personally it's one of my many fa say I like journalists personally but the the thing that they will say is they really believe the
things that they're reporting and they really believe that what they're saying and what they're doing is the truth and They're right about that by the way I I don't think that most of them are liars I think most of them are just deluded no offense guys but if they weren't duded and if there was somebody who was actually really asking well why are we spending so much time attacking Donald Trump because he dared to bring up the Haitian migrant problem in Springfield and instead what why why are we spending so much time attacking him instead
of I don't know investigating any of the Numerous issues that KLA Harris has flip-flopped on in just the last 3 years if there was a reporter who wanted to do that they would not last long in those media organizations so there's there's a basic selection bias if you're a person who can honestly look at American society and say oh wait a second American life expectancy is declining right the only industrialized country in the world where that's true we continue to be more and more reliant on some of Our biggest International adversaries to make the things
that we need oh and we're sleepwalking into a multicon in other words a world war with a President Who clearly doesn't even know who the hell or where the hell he is like maybe the honest thing would be to really aggressively interrogate how we got here but no no no no no no no no what what the journalists have instead decided to do is they're going to focus on like a sex Scandal from 2 days ago from like that involves some random journalists who who I don't even know and have never even met right there's
like this weird sex scandal story going on right now that the media is obsessed with they're not I don't think there was any actual sex in the sex scandle that's how I think that's right but but but the media is more focused on that than they are on the fact that we are sleepwalking into World War III with Joe Biden as the President United States and the reason why we have Joe Biden is because kamla Harris lied about his mental Fitness for office like if you actually care about the truth ask those questions and leave
the salacious to the tabloids but they they can't do that and if they did Tucker again if they did a lot of them would lose their jobs and so it's selects for people who are very trusting of the system and not for people who actually Want to ask questions about that system the most interesting and newsworthy television show of the year is coming here to TCN we are not bragging that's actually true the president's been shot I repeat the president's been shot so our longtime producer Justin Wells and a team have been embedded with no
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to pull back the Curtain completely they are embedded inside the campaign I can't wait to see it personally but to get it first go to Tucker carlson.com become a member the greatest television event of of the Year we're proud to offer [Music] it it's just wild that one of the things that they've been able to ignore completely is the number of politically motivated prosecutions over the last four years I think the congressman from This District actually Scott Perry got hassled by the FBI I think I may be missing this and I and I think Scott
Perry's here by the way great Congressman Scott out there hello H by the FBI for asking this is my read not is but asking questions about the last election that's not a criminal offense I know a bunch of people who are in jail right now right now for political reasons in our country that's never really reported on it's bizarre and I Guess the question is if you guys lose like what would stop that from just becoming Universal yeah well I don't know that anything would because the animating bias or the animating motivation I should should
say of kamla Harris's Democratic party is censorship because without censorship you can't get all of the other things that they want like you can't get the ridiculous foreign policy or ridiculous trade policy the wide openen borders without Censorship and so if you look and this is by the way I think this is actually the fundamental difference between the overheated political rhetoric on the left and on the right and I hate by the way when people both sides this issue they'll like well we all need to tone down the rhetoric well look by the way I
I I'm I try to be a very humble person I agree we can all tone down the rhetoric none of us is perfect including me but when Donald Trump has taken two Assassination attempts in the last 7 weeks it's not both sides that need to tone down the rhetoric it's one side in particular and you have to ask but if if if you look at what is the animating focus of the political prosecutions of the big Tech censorship in 2020 and all the censorship around Co of the fact that the European Union which basically wouldn't
exists without American taxpayer protection I mean Europe like only two countries in Europe Even have real militaries at this point right NATO is at this point a welfare client of the United States of America so Europe is going after Elon Musk for free speech and threatening to imprison him for platforming who Donald Trump who is the likely next president of the United States you go down the list the animating bias is censorship and if you think about it what is the ultimate way if you've tried to bankrupt a person you've tried to jail a person
you've Tried to you know throw a person in prison you've tried to kick them out of office you've impeached them twice what is the ultimate way to censor a human being taking their life and I think this is really the difference between political rhetoric on the left and the right which again we don't always get it right on my side of the aisle but we're never saying we want to censor the other side we in fact want to have the debate we're telling KLA Harris you should do More interviews not less you should get out
there more because we gain about 100,000 votes every time you open your mouth but wait but all all all kidding aside all kidding aside we are not trying to censor the left the left is trying to censor not just the right but the entire country which goes to show they are a threat to democracy they cannot be rewarded with More political power they have to be penalized it's like when a kid you know as I've learned as as as a young father when a kid screws up and you just let them you reward them for
it they actually do it more and they do it worse the only way to reward kamla Harris is by making her president and the only way to punish her and say look we don't accept censorship of our fellow citizens is to fire her and send her back to San Francisco that's where she Belongs so given that um I mean every news Outlet I've ever worked at which is a lot of them they're all controlled obviously um and given that you know the biggest Tech platforms would be Google and YouTube same company um openly practice censorship
all kinds of things you can't talk about they'll take you off demonetize you really we're talking about X actually we're talking about X is the place where Free Speech lives yeah um and if you were to take That out Darkness would descend that's just a fact and if you want to know the totalitarian impulses of your ruling class read the Atlantic magazine where they announce all of it ahead of time and they're telling you now that we need to shut down Elon musk's X because there's just way too much free speech and I wonder how
seriously you take those threats well I take them very seriously I mean look if we've learned anything over the last years is when These people say they want to do something they actually mean it and they intend to do it we have we actually have to take them seriously I mean when kamla Harris ran saying that we want to suspend deportations reimplement Catch and Release which is basically just Mass Asylum fraud and stop Donald Trump's remain in Mexico policy even though I didn't vote for her I voted for Donald Trump I thought well this is
crazy they're not actually going to do this And then they did so when they say that they want to use the force of law to silence or even imprison El on musk for daring to host a free speech platform we have to listen to them and that is the one thing the the the most awesome power in the physical world today is the United States government millions of people the world's largest and most powerful military if we give that over to people who are saying not only we disagree with Donald Trump not only do We
disagree with Donald Trump's supporters but we want to prevent them from participating in the American democratic system that is scary and we need to reject it and that's exactly what I think by the way with your help we're going to do so thank you for doing this this has been a really interesting and amazing conversation so last question for you so I think if I'm reading this correctly that Donald Trump has announced that he will not allow States and municipalities going forward if elected in November to continue being so-called Sanctuary cities which means es or
entire States in these 50 United States that openly ignore Federal immigration law which must be Federal because it applies to all of us and its effects are National someone comes into one state and go to your state and I'm just thinking reading this like this has been going on for decades any state or city that has a Sanctuary city law is an open rebellion in the way that Force Sumpter was an open Rebellion against the government of the United States why have we allowed this to go on for decades I don't understand well the answer
is we've allowed it to go on because the federal government still funds all of these cities they like the sanctuary cities stuff is very expensive because when you invite millions of illegal aliens into your country and then certain cities and Municipalities invite thousands or even tens of thousands I mean the cost to Illegal immigration in New York City I believe is north of 6 billion a year in Chicago I think it's around $500 million a year well that money doesn't come from Chicago taxpayers it primarily comes through Federal subsidies so if you want to in
sanctuary cities just cut off the money spigot to Sanctuary cities you don't get our taxpayer money if you refuse to enforce the law it it's Actually this one man some some of this stuff is really complicated this one is actually very simple the federal government just needs to say we control immigration law right there there there are some things the states and local governments control the Fed government controls like foreign policy immigration law and a few other things and if you are not going to obey Federal immigration laws then we're we're going to cut off
the paycheck We're going to cut off the money and you have to enforce our laws in order to get any more money from American Tax I know but like when when Central High School disobeyed federal law in L Rock in 1956 they set the 101st Airborne yeah and I just this has been going on where states and cities are like we basically are our own country countries now and no one's done anything can you just really quick tell us the mindset that allowed Washington to ignore this oh well I Don't think it's that Washington's ignoring
it Tucker I think that it actually shows where the real power is and that's with the federal bureaucracy and our you know our mutual friend VI ramaswami talks a lot about this that the real and again like you hear this term threat to democracy it's always projection when they talk about threat to democracy they're always proje ing on something else like the real threat to Democracy you and I have talked about this is if the president of the United States orders generals to do a troop redeployment and the generals refuse or lie to the president
about what they've done like that's a threat to democracy and by the way that happened at the very end of Donald Trump's presidency right and none of those people got fired none of them were even punished so you ask about immigration in sanctuary cities the answer to this question is the Permanent bureaucracy in Washington doesn't want us to have a border so even when you have a guy like Donald Trump who is using all of the powers of the presidency to try to enforce the southern border like the bureaucrats have to listen to them on
that issue because they report to them but they can make it easier for the state and municipalities to violate immigration law and that's how they subvert the will of the American people's elected President I mean this this is like a fundamental question ask yourself who amongst the United States of America which citizens voted to have 25 million illegal aliens invade this country like not not I I don't think anyone even even Democrats who disagree with me about exactly what to do with the illegal immigrants who are here I don't think that they voted for a
literal Invasion to this country okay you talk about inflation and all the Unaffordability problems who voted to in the name of environmental cleanliness to shut down American Energy and ship it to China which is the dirtiest economy in the entire world nobody voted for that so what these guys do eded by the media is they run on slogans the media covers up for it they pretend that those slogans have substance and then even when the American people see through the BS and elect a guy like Donald Trump the permanent bureaucracy fights him every Step of
the way one of the most important things Tucker that we are going to do when we win is that we are going to make the bureaucracy responsive to the American people it has to happen if you don't do that you don't have a real constitutional republic I mean you're really going to need to be tough to get that done are you confident you can do that Tucker I'm confident we can do it because nobody has ever really tried because for 40 years we haven't Had a real political opposition in this country and now we do
think about I mean Ju Ju Just just take the three basic issues that we talked about trade policy immigration policy foreign policy there are disagreements even with within the Republican party about those issues but every single one of those issues are winning issues with the American people so what we're saying is crazy as it sounds we think the American people should have a government that reflects Their best interests and their actual preferences and we're going to fight every single day to make it happen and there's no reason to do this I mean look as you
know my life was like very easy before I ran for political office and Donald Trump's was way easier than mine we're only doing this because we think that we can get it done we have to get it done to save the country so I just want to stop by repeating something you just said for 40 Years we haven't had an opposition party and now we do God bless you thank you guys remember go vote November 5th vote before or vote on November 5th God bless you guys [Applause] the big tech companies censor our content I
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