UFC 308 goes down October 26th on ESPN plus pay-per-view it features the featherweight championship between Max Holloway and the defending Champion Ilia topura let's get this started uh happy to be joined by both of these great athletes Ilia I'll start with you since you're the champ um I was going to start with a different question but I couldn't help but notice you have the BMF belt behind you and yet Max Holloway is the BMF Champion care to explain he is but to be honest he's not putting his belt in the in this fight but after
after beating him it's like I feel as the as the BMF but it's something I do for myself it's nothing special Max what do you think he's got your belt over there somehow he bought it he's a fan he's been a fan for many years and uh yeah to be honest I've been a fan from for many many years to be honest yeah I've been a fan all your entire career since I start to doing my first steps in MMA and yeah you've been a great example for the new generation but now it's my time
to be that example for the new generation so yes I've been big F of you yeah yeah the final October 26 buddy Max what do you think you uh of that when he admits that he was a fan of you I know he he didn't have to admit he didn't have to admit is a big fan and everybody knows it so why he STS me on Twitter been a big fan I I I can't say can say the the opposite I've been a a huge fan of you I followed your entire career as a fan
you've been a great father of course yes I'm I was iner 26 after the October 26 maybe you will become my fan maybe you will start learning from me Max I do I do want to ask um he's saying of course that he followed you as a champion in your career and all the great things you've done what have you thought about Ila's rise to becoming a champion I think it was good I think it was good he earned his way earned his keep you know he beat he beat guys he's supposed to beat and
he did what he had to do now we're here you know he gets to face the bless Express Come October 26 and we're about to see what happens BL Express it's over my friend the black exess over BL Express by bless Express bless Express I'm sorry I'm sorry bless Express bless what have you thought of Ilia outspoken confidence whether it was against you or any other opponent he's faced in the past I it is what it is people different people need different motivations and that's his motivation so I just can't wait you know I can't
wait the fun thing is we have to fight now we get to solve all this problem all these talking it's just talking until October 26 the cage doors closing May better man win and No One's Gonna Save you once that that cage gonna gonna be closed my friend No One's Gonna Save you too buddy be there actually is ref the referee is Gonna Save you buddy the ref is in there to for the first time trust me trust become an instant fan a instant fan you will become we will see and you already know how
it feels when you have to bounce back you already have a seven professional defeat I have zero so you gonna do it once again really well I don't have any doubts about that you are a great example of that and you have to stay I took a lot of people's Donuts bro I hope you like cheros because you about to get one come October 26 buddy October 26 the only thing I'm going to do is to take your lights out and then party with all my people with all my team that's what I'm going to
do and still this is what's going to happen I don't need to see to believe I first believe then I see so I don't have any doubts that I will be the first one to knock you out and and I don't even want you to trust in that because if you you're starting to trust in in what I'm saying you you're don't going to show up and I I need you to show up in the fight I'll show up bro I show up every single Dam and you know you've been a fan for a long
time I showed up every single damn time this I've been a fan for a long time of course I've been at fan for a long time and what Ilia what has made you so certain of your results obviously you're still undefeated but you have carried a confidence that we've seen from few others where do you get that because I know all the effort I I put in I know all the sacrifices I do I know how hard I work and what I'm able to do inside that doctag and I know what I'm able to do
so uh I've been a huge fan of of Max hway of wowski of many many fighters and I learned many things from them to create the perfect fighter who I am today so that's why I have that kind of confidence because I know that I represent a style that no one has in the UFC right now Max you said you've taken a lot of people's uh Donuts in the past describe the challenge of being the veteran that's battle tested and taking down the the younger Fighter the the generation that's coming up as Ilia says albeit
he's the champion in the featherweight division we see what happens you know at the end of the day all this talk all the everything he's saying we get to find October 26 I've been training hard I've been working hard and uh you know he's confident I'm confident I can't wait for it what do you think of his belt on his shoulder right now he bought it for what 600 bucks 700 bucks brother that was a waste of money Ilia why did you purchase a BMF belt because I want it s like a spoiled child blah
blah blah blah um since you're holding that belt Ilia what did you think of Max's fight against Justin gatei in April yeah he don't have to answer that everybody saw the video already we saw the video run the clip run the clip for the interview you know everybody know how he felt about the fight bro I was so Bor watch watching that fight the only thing excited about that fight was the last 10 seconds to be honest but I didn't see any technique in that that that that fight I didn't see any strategy I didn't
see any thing I just saw a bar fight to be honest it was very spectacular for the fans but for me as a professional it was a I don't know not something very impressive to be honest because you can impress everyone but you know the technique behind that knockout and it was Zero just a exchange and a bar I mean your face it's otherwise so it is what it is brother I challenge you to to have that that exchange but in the first 10 seconds of the fight and you will see what's going to happen
when you face a fighter like me inside the Octagon who brings that technique and that power you can do that I'm going to take your head off find out o 26 find out first 10 seconds we're gonna find out you love that you get tired every time relax get tired I get I get tired of knocking people out two weeks got two more weeks I get tired knocking calm down down calm down calm down calm down you calm down you calm down you calm down I am calm so stay calm down stay like that stay
calm uh Ilia Max has said he's the best boxer in the UFC what do you think of that bro that's a shame don't say that again I recommend don't say that again is the best in the UFC not head movement not knockout power not technique he he's just listen and I I saw him working with the backs bro what the is this don't do that don't do that on top of your one bag what are you talking about same exact Joe same exact Joe what are you talking and you know it you're laughing because you
know it Jo I don't know who's Joe who's Joe what what uh Max obviously your boxing credentials are pretty uh pretty well established in terms of your record number of strikes landed and all that and the The Knockout that you had against Justin gatei Korean zombie before that what do you think when you see when you hear somebody saying you don't move your head and these fundamental techniques that you don't have we get to figure we get to find everything out brother he can talk all this talk we get the final October 26 they all
say the same I swear to God they all say the same I will be the one who's going to put him in his place he's cocky he's this he's that and guess what I put them in in in in them place you know and they all the same they're gonna trust me I didn't I didn't came this far just to lose you know I'm gonna take you head off I'm gonna once you once you're gonna feel my power trust me you will be like oh my god what the I'm doing here I probably say better
stay at home and play a little bit of yum send some more I keep telling you in there Yumm me send more what saying more Ilia why do you think that you're the person that can knock out Max he's never been knocked out in his career because he never faced IAT opua he never faced El Matador he never faced someone like me never we had one opponent in common what he couldn't do in 75 75 five minutes I did in seven he has seven professional defeats I have zero he's the Challenger I'm the Champion that's
why I I I I know that I'm gonna knock him out Max what do you think that that I mean that's great reason to me I'm not gonna fight with him I'm not gonna argue with him he has a great reason he can believe what he believe October 26 those octagon doors Clos and we get to find out yeah Max youve uh you know more than 30 fights in your career career decorated run as a featherweight champ you've been in all kinds of lead-ups to fights the trash talking kind uh the respectful kind how do
you characterize this one list do do you really think I'm I'm TR talking I'm saying the truth he is confident he is confident bro it is what it is I ain't gonna right it's a fight game he's trying to sell a fight he get pay-per-view points he gotta do whatever he got to do for himself what do you like to do for yourself Max I like to show up and that's what I do I show up every time October 26 I'll show up yeah show up and I'm going to do the rest don't worry we
fine now brother I already know what's going to happen the difference between me and you it's that you need to see to believe I first of will believe and then I see that's the differ between us good to know thank you you're welcome Elia um I'll start with you on this one you fought in Abu Dhabi as has Max what do you think about fighting back in Abu ababi uh for this massive fight and to be the headliner on this card uh I love the fact that I'm defend I'm defending for the first time my
my belt in Abu Dhabi because I actually made my debut in Abu Dhabi so I have great memories since since that fight and I'm very I feel very excited to to go back there Max for you it's clear across the world but you had one of your best fights ever against Calvin Kar there Al be it under fight Island circumstances what do you think about going back there and and trying to get your featherweight belt back I'm excited man I'm excited man I can't wait it was uh we had somewhat fans back on that cater
fight we had to have a full arena for this one and I can't wait you know get the title back win the title take it home and just get it done you know I can't wait for it IL is so excited he's Shadow Boxing while you're speaking gu is a weirdo bro it is what it is say any and you normal right I'm Weir than you normal go go train after it's ANW why I already train I already train now I'm gonna rest this what I'm gonna do why you Shadow you're ready to rest I
want to scare you a little bit of what scare Max being the BMF Champion brings with it a lot of opportunities why was this the fight that you wanted ah I mean I wanted undefeated be able to get my title back why not you know he is the new generation like I everybody been saying you were forced to fight me you were forced to fight me you didn't want to fight me you were forced to fight me fight yeah because youel you as to fight with with Conor McChicken you asked to fight with too many
fighters because you you were trying to avoid me who told you this who told you this who told you this my friend who told you this exactly shut up you're lying this guy's a liar I'm a liar I'm a liar yeah I ask for you I asked for nobody eyes I'm a liar right here brother yeah what what's up you are the one who trying to avoid the fight you are the one how saying no you many manytimes about different different fighs you said to the UFC I want to fight with Mike Chandler I want
to fight with K mler would fight why would I ask to fight him everyone why would I ask F come on what you are the first guy I asked for I want El I want the easiest fight yeah to yeah yeah yeah yeah the easiest fight whoa easiest fight you're going to realize you're G find out October 26 you're G to find out October 26 send you back to Hawaii where a belt 12 pounds heavier thank you buddy yeah I already open a a home for all people W wal already has his room I have
another one for you so I'm gonna put you right there after October 26 sponsored by invictos Ilia you said you're opening an old folks home that vul is already there and Max is going there is that what you said yeah exactly this what I said all for free don't worry no expenses Max I'll get you out of here on this one last one from me to you and Ilia I'll follow up with you but Max what can we expect on October 26 how do you expect this fight to go against Ilia fireworks man fireworks I
can't wait October 26 we had to find out there's a lot of talking a lot of bring pillow bring your pillow for the fight Works bring your pillow because once you're going to see them start you're going to need your pillow brother you been oh my gosh oh my gosh Come something up come with something new say something new you've been saying this the whole time you've been talking needan to say anything new I don't need to say anything I only need to tell you the truth and what is the truth I always sign I
all the all the time say the say the same I don't need to say anything speak bro come on bro shut the I'm I'm I'm I'm speaking in your language let's talk in Spanish let's talk in Georgian let's talk in Russian let's talk in in in Germany what the fck you talking about man if you want to talk in English whatever you want to do boy yeah whatever you want to do Bo show up October 26 October 26 and bring the the first 10 seconds and you're gonna realize all that you're gonna wake up and
you're not a boxer you don't have an IQ of a boxer okay okay okay I like that I like that I don't have the IQ and you're gonna see my my on I'm gonna put this balls where it need to be why are you touching yourself brother we're on live TV right now calm down calm down calm down calm go to sleep go back I will sleep it's actually late here in Spain I'm going to sleep of course I'm going to sleep well gentlemen uh appreciate both of you for making the time for this and
the lead up to a massive UFC 308 in Abu Dhabi we'll see at a special start time on ESPN plus from Spain with Ilia Toria out to Hawaii with the BMF chant Max Holloway the featherweight title is on the line thanks so much guys