HELOÍSA CAPELAS (AUTOCONHECIMENTO) - PODPEOPLE #134

[Music] [Music] Our guest today is a businesswoman, speaker, writer, specialist in human development for around 40 years, she has been helping people and leaders who seek evolution in their lives and careers. Today we will discuss strategies to promote a more balanced life and deal with challenges emotional , in addition, we will explore the importance of Forgiveness, self-knowledge of love and the [Music] Hello, everyone, welcome to another episode of pod people, a place where we meet to see and hear people People who Do People who happen People who inspire Our guest today is a speaker and

her name is Eloísa Capes All good, my dear, all right, thank you very much for the invitation, I'm happy to be here, thank you very much And we're also happy that you accepted our invitation is very nice, everything is fine, everything is fine, good evening, Eloísa, you are very welcome, we are very Happy too, how good, my dear, let's go, you have had a long professional journey, right, and full of a long life, right, we have had a long, long journey, exactly, and You were taking the path of someone who was looking for tools to

help themselves. At some point this started to leak out and help others, that's it, so I wanted you to tell me a little about your journey, professor, it's good, I worked at Banco do Brasil, right, for 20 years hey, we came from a very poor family, right, a lot of people, four children, father and mother, with very little money, so we started working very early, right, so when I was 15, I worked at the Itaú bank, uh, until I joined Banco do Brazil, the competition is at Itaú, not Itaú Brazil, you started like those teenage

apprentices, right? Today it would be, right, and at the time it wasn't, everything was already professional, right, because 15 years old, I could do everything, right? Today it's already more different, and I worked for 3 years There my father was a very angry guy but he was a feminist, right? And he said, my daughters will have to work in a public servant's place where they can have a career, they can work little, they can have a salary and there 's no need for a husband to depend on a husband, right? And so it was, you

know, he was very angry, so we had to obey my sister, she was the smart one, I had to go lower Uhum So she was second to him, my mother's, especially my mother's, my mother said I wouldn't go give a lot because I had what I had below and my sister already went to the bank, she is three years older than me, she was already there, so I had to enter and in fact I entered Banco do Brasil at 18 years old and there I was left with the question, wasn't it? Never, if you 're

happy, the question is, do you have a job? Yes, you have a job. I'm not happy, but I have a husband, something like that, or do you have a job, right? In my case, I had a job, I had a salary and And then, the four of us working, we supported the house easier for my parents, anyway, and there we were, aged 18, at the same time I joined the bank, I took my first self-knowledge course and, but motivated by why Because this wasn't such a common thing, it wasn't common in that ISO era It

wasn't you saying, Mom, I want to take a self-knowledge course, it's not because it was, it was a religious path, that 's what I thought because, more or less, in our time there was already a religious path, like those encounters that made you become when you meet meeting with God and such, something more or less like this, a little more serious, a little less religious, but within a Dent institution of that purpose, so it was easy for me because my family was already religious, I already attended And then it was time to enter I had

a super complicated family life, this story about my mother, I preferred my sister and always in comparison and I was always the worst, right, there were four of you, but like your older sister is next to you, then my brother, brother, last third And then there was one another younger brother my sister my mother lost a girl when she was born uhum a year later my sister was born this sister of mine is alive she was everything PR my mother right the compensation everything and there she stayed in that place until my Mother dying late

must still be in that place and be perfect to do everything like my mother, my sister had the nerve to brag about one end-of-year report card knows everything 10 oh, shame on you, right? You can't compete with one I feel sorry For her because she Well, it was her because for a long time she had to stay in that place for a long time and the poor thing didn't even know how much weight she was carrying there Today she knows, and also because of searching and everything, but she says that it was impossible to please

my mother, we don't meet our parents' expectations, never, never, never, but my mother's, who was super demanding, the poor thing went to the point of death. of my mother last year and In an attempt to please, to please, so it's a very strong thing to care to please, you know, of the eldest daughter, my brother was the mischievous one and my youngest brother was the sickly one. He was born cross-eyed, my mother with a lot of guilt and everything about him was difficult, all the illnesses we had, just a quick stop and he almost died

And then he was the spoiled sickly youngest one and I was kind of without a place there in that family and I went to be the liar uhum I went to get in trouble Uhum And then everything I lied everything I lied I lied To one I lied to another I pitted one against the other look it was a mess I made but why the use of lies as a mechanism my father was a storyteller I understood Um I understood and then he He told stories, I also understood, I just Told stories, he found a

way to stand out, father was brilliant, he was a child whisperer, ahem, and I also went to tell the story, Uh, I was my father's, right ? I belonged to my father So I had to follow him, it was great, he taught me a lot, but hey, there was a price because he was the brave one, he was the owner of the house, you know that thing, the boss father and that Uhum And then this one's favorite son An angry man is very difficult, right, because the drill came and it was more difficult, so the

family system was very complicated and I built my childhood for myself. It helped a lot to make it more complicated because I started to be untrustworthy Uhum And then Café com Leite disqualified my mother was angry because she caught all the lies, of course that was my intention for her to catch the lies so I could get attention, it was a place, yes, of course, and it was a place that I got from my sister, of course, I'm aware of that now Yes, but it wasn't that easy, knowing, you know, with a lot of self-knowledge,

but at the time I didn't know I was just looking for love and my sister was the best and then I couldn't handle that I was going to be the least Uhum And I ended up being the worst No, I went to an opposite in prominence M position name exactly not Hers because she was so cool but we comment on the bandit, right ? sacrifice Eloí gets everything ready Car this week you don't know what Eloísa did so it was a place I found in my house, everyone was very strong, my brother was very sick,

my sister was very wonderful, my brother was very mischievous and I was a very liar, that's it. So I said, there's a family, the papers were all laid out neatly, right? I belonged to that family and was loved by them, but loved like that, right? Like everyone else, later on, I'll understand, Bob Hoffman tells us about love, which is conditional, love. of the self uhum, right that the unconditional love that is self-love is a learning process it is an exercise because what we learn in childhood is the love of oneself if you behave if you

wash if you go to bed early if you don't cry and then we love like that, so for me it was a lot, I was in a bad place and I realized that when I was a Teenager Because then I stood out, I was a nice girl but completely invalidated, it was a very unpleasant place, so when this opportunity came up, it was the leader of the religious organization I was going to do, it was just for adults, I had just turned 18, I said adult, I'm 18, uhm, and I went alone, so my parents

weren't interested, they weren't interested afterwards, because I made so many changes in my life. my mother said that I was a caterpillar and that I turned into a butterfly with pink dots because I stopped lying Uhum I realized that it was just to fill my patience L it was just to have a prominent place I said oh man it's so tiring I'm going to work with this business, right? improve, right, because the basic lies had all already been told, I had to improve, it gave me a lot more work, so I said, oh, people, that's

awesome, I'm going to do something better, and I'm going to at least take care of my own business, right? of self-knowledge that enchanted me uhum eh but it was just me being the straight daughter Ah okay so what is there to do Within this system so it's to work it's to tell the truth it's to pay the bill my entire salary was my mother's me I just kept the overtime and then I worked a lot to keep the overtime and I kept going then I fell in love uhum I got married Because that's how it

is, right, within the system you will continue at 22 years old I got married and at 25 I had my first daughter who was the most Spectacular moment of my life I got married in love I had a super cool marriage eh So I was, I got on track I was a bit aligned I worked out I worked at Banco do Brasil my husband was a doctor so everything went well I had a amazing wonderful daughter Then I decided to get pregnant right away because I said well now I wanted to be an entrepreneur to

tell the truth I'm very good, right ? chair and I'm going to be a clerk and I couldn't leave the bank because it was a guarantee, I had instructions from my father, you know, I couldn't leave there and so I decided to start a family business, I said, you know what, I'm going, I'm going to start a family Cool, I Have time, I'm going to have a son, I'm finally going to end my family, I'm going to start a business, but I also didn't know that I was doing all of this, I'm counting on 30

years of age, analyzed, right, analyzed very well Eh, but I went there and then my husband I didn't want any children but I go there and convince Beatriz first then when Beatriz was one year old let's go to the second Let's go to the second Let's go to the second because I needed time, right? I could n't give space and my mother in 6 years she had five children Wow, there was one in her hand, one in her lap, one in her belly, I said I'm going to do it like there was a model, right?

I also don't know that I'm doing this, the only difference I I only wanted women uhum because my father was a feminist Uhum So bring women into the world eh and then I got pregnant again at 13 months when I was 7 months pregnant Beatriz had Beatriz didn't sleep she wow she gave me a hard time the first time she slept months after months she didn't sleep anymore one night she got sick she stayed talking all night at 6 in the morning she fell asleep then I went back to bed And it was time to

wake up and I went in at seven o'clock bank there I said to my husband I'm not going You call there today I'm not going I'm going to sleep and he had to leave Uhm I turned over and slept because I had gone to bed at 6 am when it was 8:30 am Beatriz woke up and went there to give her a bottle and play to see if she had the flu with a fever because it had been one night longer than the others . And pregnant for S months, I had that big belly, with

her scary big belly, she turned her eyes, she turned purple, she got hard, I thought she had choked, her eyes were desperate, desperate, I picked her up, I ran around the apartment, I knocked, it was four, four doors to mine. Ladinho opened the door, I told her about it, she was coming back, I had never seen a seizure, I thought she had choked, she was coming back, she stayed calm, it's nothing, she just choked, she went into his lap, I ran into the house, I called my husband and I said, he was a pediatrician Of

course, he still is, right? Call him back home because Beatriz is Dying, a neighbor called, picked up the phone, no, calm down, it wasn't anything like that, but he's a Pediatrician, he came back knowing that she had already had a seizure, we got the lap we went to pro eisin we live live in São Paulo oh he worked there he was a high risk neonatologist he only picked up sick babies in the delivery room it was his specialty eh he eh you already got it more or less let's go let's see Mariano who was her

pediatrician we arrived she was good at playing laughing, I said, well, that's it, what am I going to tell the doctor ? nothing left medicated go home I said but what if she has a crisis there won't be any more because she's medicated there's nothing n I set foot at home medicated she had another crisis for a month It was like giving medicine taking medicine D medicine take the medicine, increase the dose, reduce the dose, take this one out and put that one in because she wouldn't stop convulsing. Wow, and when I was without an

infection, nothing, nothing, nothing, we Found a change in the no in her brain when she was c years old, she was 1 year and 8 months old It was all micro, I didn't think so and we had fewer resources, resonance didn't even exist yet, it's resonance came to Brazil in 98, it has existed since 95, it was 82 at that time, 84 at that time, hey, well, we did it with everything, we had all the resources because the Pires was a friend of the entire hospital, all we had to do was We didn't find anything,

we came back well a month later she went into status epilepticus epilepticus, exactly which is very dangerous T eight subintractant seizures one within the other and she became hemiparetic she was paralyzed on her right side She was right-handed, she was paralyzed on her right side and practically in a coma, she was hospitalized and she was on my lap, I didn't let her go to the ICU, I didn't leave anything, you were already giving birth, the other was 8 months old, ahem, well, we don't know what's going on. what happened to her head won't walk, she

won't see, she won't talk, she won't do a lot of things, she said, she did everything and it looked weird, she didn't look weird, but that's great, I'm going to go here later, right? Yeah, the neurologist says so, but she just I forgot, it'll come back, everything Got weird only a month later Estela was born uhum my joy because it was another girl it was what I wanted I didn't know because we didn't have an ultrasound to see that, I mean, yes, there was, but I couldn't see it, I was super happy but Beatriz wouldn't

stop convulsing oh my God so we enjoyed it a little the baby ran after Beatriz a little and it didn't stop it never stopped she convulses to this day she is going to be 42 years old and it was a fusion My husband and I used to fight so much because he's the doctor Uhum And I'm the crazy one Uhum I wanted to cure my daughter, true, and he also felt helpless, right, helpless, I asked him for a profession and if he had been in another area it would still be better, but he was in

his daughter's area so much that he changed areas, right, today he is he was feeling he went to specialize in hospital finances he went to do financial skills because it wasn't possible So today he's a doctor and so on but he's not, you know, he's more of a doctor, medical administrator, let's say ISO, he takes care of of hospitals is his business, not of people, not of people, ahem, and much less of children, he didn't realize that, we know that, right, He counts himself, eh, and I, after all, everything I did, they gave me there

to improve, yeah and Sympathy and I went to all the religious temples, everyone is Go, take a pass, go do it, I swear, I don't know everything, look, because if you go there you'll have to walk on your knees and if you do three little jumps and if I did, you wanted to cure your daughter I'm going to have a doctor in Paraná, I don't know how much of a specialist he is, he invented a medicine, Pires wanted to kill me, he was Lou, he invented medicine, you're crazy, Remo Uhum, but I went there, I

went to Arigó, I went to Chico Xavier, I went to whatever he said. that could improve an area, it had a root , I don't know how many, it was me and Pires trying to kill me, kill me Uhum And I went and nothing helped, not even the allopathic medicine. brain and leaving her in living conditions uhum all the others the other attempts we didn't know but I didn't know any of that I wanted to cure my daughter you went in faith right I went in search Despair of is and the other Poor thing that

was was falling behind, poor thing, it was a package that I took everywhere Poor Estela Poor thing, today she lives in Bristol, England, she's brilliant And then I had a genius uhum look, the genius took after her aunt, not you in Prim Well, it's in first the first me oh wow, in the first year of Estela's life, Beatriz had convulsions 20 times a day, my God, I keep imagining it, it was difficult too, PR Estela, right, because this sister who has something that no one knows about and who takes all the care, but at the

same time and I'm here, very intelligent, I sought out her skills to survive and she was making her own life because she couldn't depend on her mother or today. She's look, she takes care of her. She's responsible for a domestic violence project on five continents. in England it's a she's still brilliant uhum eh That's what she said mother that's all that's left and that's what I have uhum because it was very difficult there wasn't a birthday that when it was time to congratulate Beatriz she didn't have a convulsion and then she ruined everything because it's

very ugly A seizure is very bad, you can't hide it, it falls, it weans, it shakes, it drools, it turns purple, urine control, right? And then Everyone becomes very sad and desperate, right, because it doesn't even look like they're going to die today, we 're already difficult to see very bad very bad, right 20 days ago I did an Open House because I moved house and my friends were there and she was also sitting at the table all happy talking talking in her own way talking and she doesn't have a CR convul ​​oh my God

there until we reestablish the environment because the energy, the tense world, right? It's very bad and that's what we lived with the young children. So my marriage was going to hell so pretty straight away and I didn't know what to do with the two of them. And your life project of undertaking something in the family, it was going well, it was going well too. This venture, oh, piris had a vasectomy, uh, because he said, I want anything but a child, right? Estela that Beatriz convulsed That's when she started to lose her cognitive ability, I understand,

um, it was burning the neuron, which didn't happen, everything happened in the Coma, she came back looking strange but came back well, she went to Escola Normal That first year, she started to lose her little by little, she went losing very slowly, paying for everything, it was a lot of times, it was crisis after crisis, you create an edema, right, you create an edema, it's all the time she had this edema and And then what she was already doing, she stopped doing it, but she was very small, she had 1 year and 8 months later

3 years then we met Dr Salomon Schat when she was 3 years old which is wonderful I pray because he is 85 years old I tell him you go to 120 you go to 120 you wait for me let me die before then you die because he was wonderful he helped me he helped me as a person not only by giving medicine to Beatriz but he was the only person who listened to me I went through millions of professionals because just like I went to churches I also had the look for you, he had a

welcome for his mother too Exactly because they looked at Beatriz and what I said is that I think put her in the insignificant position of a horrible mother, I heard every barbaric thing, you want to do this, you think you're ready to kill your daughter, it was one thing and he listened to me he heard me to this day saying And what do you Think because I'm seeing this this but at home and I said he was healing me because of this insignificant position of mother he gave me significance but at that time I I

was already very crazy, right, TR years, but nothing stopped, she started to get better, she stopped having 20 seizures, but she had 12, eight, she went three days without convulsing, we said, oh my God, It's a Miracle, in a little while, we'll come back when we thought so, who You know, she'll stop, she'd start convulsing again and then she'd have another 10 or 12 days later, so it was like this today, she's having seizures about four times a month, uhm, well, wonderful, yes, but it's still once a week, that's an average, that's sensational, it's sensational,

we're very happy. I'm grateful for that because it was terrible, when she was 8 years old in 90, Solomon, this doctor, he asked if I wanted to see an assisted living facility that was coming to Brazil, there were some kbes from England, Israel and there L there There he thought I had a profile that I could help there that I could be a manager, wow, I said wow, because you, I was a social worker by training, I worked a lot for free until Beatriz Eh, born born, not until Episode because I she Wow, I had

experience with people in social services, you don't want to go there and see that, I had Beatriz, I said hey, I can take her to work, I spent 3 months there doing an internship. the person who took me there who taught me who showed me that after three months I took 3 months of premium leave from the bank I had to go back uhum or resign, it was a lot like that I was going to win I was going to get paid like as a director like manager R$ 800 uhm work like crazy being responsible

for installing something new in the new country Yeah I earned it I got paid at the bank for 6 hours of work R 5000 was was was was was one thing and plus good health insurance was a pain a suffering because that's what I wanted to do but this here I had was a guarantee Uhum it's the piris quiet despair deep down wanting to kill myself without a doubt because this was forever, right ? I can't, I Can't handle it, right? It's just a shame, right? Because you don't go after your dreams. I needed everything

except that . I only had a job, it was, and it was forever, there was no more cure. At that point I was starting to think there was no cure, uh, after a long time, hey, she said, you know, I took a course and gave me a piece of paper, a xerox, well, this one. course was so good I don't know what I think you should do it was the Hoffman process a Hoffman what is the Hoffman process then this course saved my life I opened it Um I got home I said I was going

back to the bank piris did oh my God is coming to his senses and I told us he was completely unmarried at home Uhum I had thrown away our bed I had bought two single beds I threw away our ring I tore up our marriage certificate symbolically because he says I don't I'm going to leave Uhum but I Symbolically say then this business is over and he says I'm not leaving because if I leave you're going to kill Beatriz I can't go and my mother said I don't want to know what's happening I'm in his

favor uhum so I had nothing to do except be rude, right? That's all I did. Hey, I told him, oh, Edna said so, so he saw a light at the end of the tunnel, it was very expensive, it cost 000. At the time I I had already sold my Premium license I didn't have it anymore I had used my license I didn't have any more money I had more he said if you stop sending me away I'll pay you I said well I'll stop if you go too because it's not just me There's the two

of us then he said I can't go now I can in two months but I said I can go now you go later I'll go May now it's going to be done Wow, it's been a long time 30 something years n it was 90 34 years 34 May 27th it's over My first course saved my life but what is the method? It's a method that says method is a process. In reality, he said it was a process because I remember that I had a lot of patients who did it and said it but I never

knew exactly What it was. it was that no one knew how to explain what it was, because they can't, it's a commitment to confidentiality, not because the patients didn't have anything that happened, and I saw a lot of patients who didn't do anything and I'm not one to ask, but there were people who They were doing very well There were people who were very ill then I think they were ill I wanted to try to understand what was going on What was the trigger so it wasn't out of curiosity I was never a doctor to

ask what the patient didn't want to say but I said So I just want to understand why it hurt you, why you 're like that, that's all it did because it must be your trigger, that's what I want to understand, I don't want to understand what was done, I don't want you to break anything, I don't know. commitment commitment , secrecy, I just want to understand so we can start putting the pieces in place again because he was coming back here to ask for help, right? Exactly, so this was a mystery to me, it still

continues today, except uhum, the process was very brutal as it was because it was created in 67, it was during the dictatorship period. So he It was that thing, right, Our parents were more brutal, today that no longer exists so we can no longer be like that, we revisit our childhood, so when I talk about my place in my childhood, when I understand my parents, I went there, I understand. I went there to see, you know, what made me so dissatisfied and so impetuous, so reckless, right? So the one who caught me was Salomão, right?

I obeyed my father or no one else, I learned that, right? And then Poor Pires, zero obedience because he wasn't even supposed to get married, right? lot of things but the most, right, I usually say today I'm responsible for the Hoffman process in Brazil because I'm so passionate about this methodology because of what it did to me Uh, I was at rock bottom, a destroyed marriage, um, two children who I didn't know what to do with either one or the other. Because at that time Estela was already a big girl and her genius was showing,

I felt completely mediocre to be Her mother, I say, I was incompetent to be Bia's mother, incompetent, so it was a combination. terrible , the family venture was chaotic I was completely and feeling completely incompetent do for them this thing that I wanted, a family that I was going to be a mother that everything went wrong, so I hit rock bottom at the age of 34, I already had a lot of experience with that thing of difficult experiences not good experiences, difficult experiences and frustration and and I continued to be aa who had no value

in my house uhum that's why it was Pires who was right, right because that's why everyone looked after Pires and I was crazy So he was the doctor and I was the one Poor thing married a crazy woman always on his side everyone everyone on his side my father breathed my father was the person who loved Beatriz the most in the world and what he did for this girl is a lot, it makes me cry Uhum, she was completely in love with him She still says that to this day, right, Grandpa lives in heaven, uhm,

Grandpa is with Jesus, she said because it's her peace, she 's not with me, but she's there with the guy, right? Eh, so he was passionate, he was wonderful, he was a child charmer, he he knew how to be with her and she was completely into him but only into his uhum She she a change of mood our coexistence difficult difficult difficult she drove us crazy like I don't I want water drink water I don't want more water so don't drink water but I want water so drink water but I don't want water so I

want water give water spill water I want to pee I'm going to pee I'm not going to pee I'm going to do it I'm not going to do it so let's go to the bathroom don't go to the bathroom go to and then pee on your clothes look, it was crazy, crazy, eat, don't eat, mom doesn't want to eat alone, she makes all that mess but mom gives, I want to eat alone and then she throws the plate on the floor, it was a mix of things, ours And then after we were very angry with

her she laughed she saw everyone desperate she thought it was funny we wanted to get upset then it was exactly my fault Wow why did I fight with her why did I punish her why did I say I wouldn't do that anymore because well I was completely lost and I got there Uhum And then I wanted to tell you about it but no one wanted to know everyone was interested in my childhood the question is how did you become the person you became is the is the the key question let's say is that And how

good it was that I was born Uhum everything starts and then in the process we start at conception uhum it turns out that there was a sperm um oo that they conceived you And then all the confusion starts to start from that And then the students return to this place was where I went back to my childhood my role I only know about my role because There they showed me and I said Oh, that's right, I was, I experienced distrust, incredibility, even when I had a lot of suffering and then I had a lot of

suffering, no one believed it Ah, it 's not her because at the party no one sees it, right? Now it's time inside the house that she goes to the bathroom when she eats when she has to go to sleep when no one saw this and at the party she was so cute giving kisses to everyone it even seemed like she put in the work because I didn't have credit and I didn't know that I experienced, it was a suffering of not counting on anyone, and this was never talked about In your family either And then

understanding this was sensational to say, oh, and the most part of the process, the limit, I always say that we climb a mountain and, at the top of the mountain has forgiveness being able to forgive all this being able to fit every little piece in its right place but this forgiveness that you are talking about Eloí is the highest forgiveness forgiveness for my childhood so forgiveness from my parents PR you of your life to my parents first it is also for everything which involved my childhood uhum and then looking at myself and forgiving myself as

a mother uhum Um because I didn't want my daughter to heal for her I wanted her to heal for me I judged her uhum for me and I judged the little one even because you had a mourning You wanted a child who would be perfect died ex and she died she died Since when nceu she died not when she was born not because she was born it was a year old she died after a year and 8 months you saw she died And then you are looking for that child there and it was the one

I wanted Uhum So the moment I realized that I had made all that mess first because that's what I knew how to do because that's what I did in my house I Only knew how to make that mess yeah group is family, so I'm going to have to make Confusion For everyone to talk about me and then they didn't talk about Beatriz, they talked about her crazy mother, it was my place and they talk about me, I'm happy, I understand all of this, I put these little boxes all in the place I look at myself

and realize that I was the mother I was forgiving myself for being Estela's mother was much more serious than being Beatriz's mother because I gave very little attention to Estela to me and say okay, you did everything you knew and could, not only in the mirror here, people, it's a cure Uhm, I was cured, eh, I saved my life, I saved my family, I saved my destiny, uh, it was such a thing, I say. Man, it's that easy, I can live because I can be who I want to be, I don't need to be a

copy, I don't need to be my father's troglodyte, my father was a troglodyte, he was huge, he was brave, I say he was a tyrannosaurus Uh, but I I became a tyrannosaurus, my mother was tough, I also managed to understand that I copied and repeated them without recourse because it was what I knew and I did the best I could at the level of consciousness I had, I was willing I was doing the best everything was wrong but it was the best it was what I knew what you knew forgive me for that V I

wrote a book about forgiveness Uhum I say forgiveness is the intelligence that is missing because you don't forgive the other forgiveness is Your always, right, I forgive the other and I take the link off my arm, what the other will do with it is the other's life, you, but I'm free, you free yourself from that feeling that ties you negatively to the other. the other one won't, it's his right, you're amazing, doing this with my childhood, being free from it, not having to repeat my parents, being able to build a cool Eloísa and forgive me,

people, this life is good, and when you came back, what changed concretely in your relationship? with Pires, with Estela, with Bia, with her parents, everything changed, I had an understanding of Pires, we did an experience there that we called the experience of compassion, compassion is the feeling that most equates us with others because like you, I also Uhum And like me, you also look at the piris with this feeling and say the guy is not against me he is Living his story he is doing what he can too, right at the level of consciousness he

has uhum two months later he went through the same experience That was me, he didn't give up, not because he was delighted with my return, that's another Eloísa, that's the Eloísa I wanted, Gentle. uhum loving and saying it's ok it was just another crisis we will we will overcome this will pass uhum let's just breathe it's one day after another in the morning she has speech we'll do it later tomorrow she has I don't know what let's go now let's go for a walk with Estela, let's leave her with her mother, let's leave Beatriz with

my mother and my father and let's go for a walk with Estela, let's go, it was a different era, family life was possible, returning, reconnecting with everything, everyone, no, and what was possible to be made it possible to say PR to my parents I love you in my house I couldn't say that I went to them and said Guys I have to say something to you dad I love you I said you're crazy I said mother crazy crazy and everything crazy loving Lou love, life became so easy so I became so much lighter, right I

got so crazy that I went and asked for a job there Uhum And then I could Resign from the bank because the bank was my father's job, it wasn't mine exactly me I could give it back to him and say thank you very much, thanks, they were great, there was a 20 year guarantee, I did everything I could, I was a good employee, the bank didn't delay my salary for a day, I was great, but thank you very much, lmo, I don't, I don't want to, and I went to ask Maris for a job, who

was the organizer and responsible for the process, she said I can't, you don't have a profile Oh my God again, one more Per one more pardon, one more pardon, you're impulsive, you're logical, she saw me in the process, that troglodyte Yeah. I told her it's okay, I'm just not going to leave here impulsively. So tell me what I have to do. I understand that I'm not ready, but the instruments I need, which is that you accept Uhum, she already had a team. But what kind of person is that? I told her you have this little

table I was a banker, I was in the administration, I said this little table isn't empty, it was because I went there all the time, right? I said, are you looking at me like this ? I had left, she was going to tell me, can this crazy woman come here for two TR days, she's going to leave, she's going To give up, I spent a year and a half at this desk working from 8 in the morning to 6:30 in the afternoon without earning anything, nothing, I took that one, that Institute, I took everything, I

learned everything sitting at the little table I went to someone's table I went to wherever she moved I said hi do you want coffee I hired her she had a one room a room just for the process registration form because she worked a lot she had a lot of students er extraordinary woman but it was all paper, right? At the time, yes, I hired a programmer, hey, I asked her to buy a computer, he created a registration program, I registered her entire room and tore up the files, I said, ready, here, I'll teach you. now

to find Zé you click here do here do she looked at me that was all I needed Ava, I know I called 1000 people that year because I wanted to know what had happened And then your answer will come in a little while, okay? of the patients, people who did like me, Vida Fez exploded there and it was me, the brothers saw me at my house, Pires made food, Pires is a cook, wow, and then I invited him, Pires made food, I made the living room, my Brothers My nephews came back to my house, my

mother, my father, my father-in-law, my mother-in-law, my brothers-in-law, it was a great life, it was the family I was family with, the family business you wanted, Pires reversed the vasectomy and we had Rodolfo, my God, so that's what I said. I need to work in this business I have to get involved in this business and this is what I need. ISO gives opportunities to other people and it's a lot of gratitude. I need to give back to the universe because it was a person with his delicacy who showed me this here. I need it so

I spoke to these 1000 people had a group and there was a group, no, well, I said, come here, come here, Marisa will help you Hmm, and poor Marisa, and I said, Zé Antônio to Maria Dan, they come here because they are not very well and as we want the process to do well we want to fix it if something went wrong you got it where the screw didn't come in how do we get it right now, right? Eh and she went there she went and she was a she had a expertise she had a

talent and there she went she saved people there in the office but one day came when she said I can't take it But either I file a lawsuit and I'm out for 10 days or I'm assisting people, you're driving me crazy uhm Poor husband but at that point she was already in my hands I already knew everything I already did everything I arranged a lecture for her I everything I said it like this, Bad, I'll plow and you plant the seed, it's in your hands, but let me do the dirty work, I'll plow, I'll prepare,

I'll do it and you'll come, she entered mine a year and a half later, I'm not going to get rid of it, today I I work with leaders and I tell them Constância generates success uhum in these 1 year and a half I have been constant she can count on me from 8:30 in the morning to 6:30 in the afternoon apart from weekends when I still did I don't know what I I still went there to answer, I don't know what, for her, she knew it was like that with Eliz, we can count on Hey,

she said to S, I can't take it anymore V stop calling these students because I wanted to give them news about the process because We didn't have anything, you didn't have a job, we didn't have a job, what remained after because we were a lot of students, a lot of work and we didn't have a postgraduate sector. I totally agree and I went to do it because as soon as I was already moving I said What Am I going to do again, I'm going to register these guys because this is administration, this paperwork here can't

be done, it can't be like this, you have to press the button and find I was a banker, we already have technology coming first to the bank, right? I knew there were things there, let's go, let's do it. She was already very impacted by it because it went really well, so she emptied an entire room of paper and she had another one, so she said, I can't take it anymore, you can stop, I won't answer anyone else, Marisa, take care of them. They need help, she answered you and she said that, okay, you said it

wasn't me who asked, I didn't ask for anything, but you created the demand and she gave it to you, that little room that was empty became my service room for a year and a half of this happening at things and the year goes by and the year goes by and Rodolfo is growing up because he had been a good baby and he was growing up and I was there doing an exercise that we call in my third book Emotional Innovation I teach this technique which is the most important technique of the process called recycling in

this book I say that we are going to immerse ourselves, we are going to submerge ourselves in the trash If we Don't do something with it we humanity and we produce emotional trash Of course and if we don't take care of them we will submerge and then I do this this this metaphor in the book and I teach recycling there is the book that is the recycling of the can strategies for your impact on the world build strong and lasting healthy results because we impact the world whether we want it or not we just don't

take responsibility emotional innovation would be this this this cycling redefinition of life this is a recycling a recycling you change a negative behavior to a positive Uhum what is it you change the resentment and anger to forgiveness Uhum So people don't feel well post-process because they get stuck in Revenge Got it? After everything they've done, do you want me to forgive them because it's very interesting? You're saying I want to, but I don't think that 's the point. I think people don't understand what forgiveness is. Um, why do people think forgiveness is like that? I'm

going to forget, okay, that's not that, that's not going to be that, I feel that forgiveness for me is something like that, from then on, that no longer governs my life or doesn't take me off my Axis He knows us from different situations that we have times he talks to me what I feel and what I do with what I feel exactly exactly that's mine That's self-responsibility and that's what love is uhum self-love that's exactly what I take responsibility for the person I am and the person I want to be And I'm going build and

I build the person that Marisa trusted uhum 10 years it was a construction it was a construction it was a construction of personality because I was recycling because I did a lot but op it was also sweet leaving her for a year and a half there without winning winning is that I left the bank with a good compensation, but I still had it, right, but even so, you had a working hours that were longer than the bank's working hours were much longer and I had a baby and I had a baby exactly that I took

the baby to work with me pir no longer wanted people to ask Pires to make food Where are pir people we have been divorced for S years that's fine but you hello you say shine and we Are super friends he is my best friend I always say this on my trips you know on the plane when you are going to take an international flight they ask for a phone number if anything happens it is his of course I will make one exam and said, we need a contact number, it's his, it's his, I went to

do a Real Estate negotiation, so if you have another phone number other than yours I have theirs, Pires is piris, look dear, I want to meet you, there are many years, right? We were beautiful boys because love was transformed in another way, it was transformed, there was forgiveness and much healthier healthy. Much and after 40 years of marriage, when I was 60 years old, we looked at the other's face and said like that, then, now It did, it did, but it didn't take away the bond, so it's ok, everyone, I'm sorry, it was already possible

to be that friend, right, it was already very difficult, the first year, imagine it's very difficult, I say, people, divorce is very difficult, wanting both of us to be well, uhm, there was no wife. At the parade there were no men at the parade there was no anger there was nothing and it was very difficult for us to settle down as divorcees okay this is your life this is mine even the children oh It was a lot of confusion but it worked out It Worked out exactly 7 years later and because forgiveness is a reign,

forgiveness is a path in this family Uhum, what a good thing it is for me, so the beginning was Innovation, no, this is the third book, what was the first, the map of Happiness, the map of Happiness, this is 10 years ago May 27th marks 10 years since I gave you the coordinates to heal your life and never look back to heal your life and never look back to heal or look back to see where I won't go back, but if I don't wanting to go back, it's not Brazil's forgiveness because when do I know

it's forgiveness when I can be grateful uhum my childhood was the best I could have uhum and it built the woman I am today I understand it was thanks to that childhood but because For example, it's not very difficult for people, for example, we know that there are childhoods and childhoods, I had a very cool childhood, I had little things, but I can't say that I had trauma, I can't say, but I keep thinking about children like that who suffer rape, abuse It must be much more difficult to forgive, I lived through it all, and

it's not more difficult, I forgave, but it's much more difficult, right? Without a doubt, you Agree, I keep putting it like that because it's okay, I didn't suffer that, then I'm like that, but when I see it, a child and when I attended, I received children, I didn't receive children, I received children whose mother had one who she went to, she said like this, the mother went to talk to her, she said like this, I only talk to you in front of that doctor that I saw on television at the time it was television and

the mother called and then she arrived first I'm going to talk to you alone, little thing like this, look, this happened and you're going to help me, right? I said, look, I have no idea how big your pain is, I can't have it but I can't because I put myself in the other person's position and I imagine it but I can't and this thing about putting yourself in the other person's position is a lie . I can actually see from another's point of view I can imagine I can imagine how difficult it is to have

a daughter we have an adopted daughter Uhum who post Rodolfo when Rodolfo was 11 years old we adopted Eduarda Uhum And I'll tell you in my third book I talk about how she recycled our family when she arrived and she is black Uhum And we are blonde uhum and her younger brother is my copy he is blond with blue eyes Rod Rodolfo the girls are brown But Rodolfo has blond eyes blue and she is her closest brother who lives with her to this day, right? We all three live together and she says that to me

when I say it to her, daughter, I know, I'm sorry and I know it hurts, she says mom, you don't know you're blonde with blue eyes Uhum you don't know what it's like to be black you don't know what it's like to be adopted and you're in a place to be adopted, right? No, her mother gave it to me, nor did she go to Am, right? It didn't come to that, which is even worse, right, when it stays in her shelter, So she and she always warn me about this, you don't know that you're not

you, no there's history and it's true and it's true we can welcome Out's suffering we can defend black people you can defend whoever you want but you don't know Uhum you 're privileged white Uhum but you had your stories too right and I say it's true there is a pain I had pain the pain of abuse is a pain I say it leaves the child raw, certainly in the soul and in the body that is one thing but it is possible to forgive so I am the witness that We already have There were stories in

the process, I've been there for 33 years, I already had a student who was found in the trash can and the firefighter who found it created it, and I had prostitutes who lived such a great life and a client decided to give the case to that person. and she managed to get out she has a hairdressing salon today she has it's a san his and everything we do with forgiveness reality yes because forgiveness disconnects you from pain pain from pain exactly and pain destroys you Uhum And pain generates anger and when I say people, we

are dying of anger, it's true, we died 50 years earlier, our DNA is ready to live for 120 years and we die at 70 to 75, we die of anger due to a lack of forgiveness, accumulated, right, accumulated, right, so I, I I tell the students the process is not innocent it will lead you to change if you do life will get worse uhum because conscience has a price after I have conscience there is no verb to automatically discount centiares I open it and stay here saying I'm not going I'm not going I'm not I'm

going, I'm not going , life is going to get worse because it's so wise Life is so wise that it's going to make you feel Really bad until you decide to go. It's bad Uhum you can go through the process quickly or long but you can get it I understand because he's very powerful He works on our more subtle issues but it's a lot and it's and it's seven days of lovingness you spend seven days there it's a week right, a week and we're doing it this year, we're going to do it, right last year

we did 18 groups, 600 students have passed since I've been there, Marisa died in 2002 uhum 2002 two she was getting sick or was it one she was 45 years old we were the same age very young we were the same age me and her she was from June 7th and I'm from September So I said 56 we were the same age eh she had a disease called bone marrow aplasia which She developed it at the age of 29 , she doesn't produce platelets, right? this woman stopped only death this disease kills in 5 years

she lived 16 when she Was 15 years old we knew that there were seven people in the world who had survived this disease but the seven had cancer and she had cancer breast, yes, and then you can't do chemotherapy, no, she did, you know, she had plastic surgery, she removed the entire tumor, no, there was no lymph nodes, well, she already did, uh, immunotherapy, but within a year, you know, that year, she already knew that she was going to die because she never got well she never felt it and she already knew and chemo doesn't

work, it doesn't work, it doesn't work because then the first thing it does is destroy Moria, bleeding because of the lack of platelets, eh It was an attempt this year and she spent everything she had and with Nativa continued working but I went ahead being the interi raising her naturally, right? She left me an inheritance Exactly because the license was given by Bob Hoffman Uhum And she is personal today when Bob was going to die he also had one he he had hepatitis C virus Uhum he got a transfusion uhum when he was 21 years

old he fell off his motorcycle and at that time that transfusion thing was tested exactly many years later he discovered hepatitis and he slept, Right the hepatitis virus you sleep, right you sleep when she woke up or It brings cirrhosis or It brings liver cancer and then he had a cancer like that that already started like that, right, so he also knew that he was going to die he called the license holders from all over the world who are 11 uhum and set up an international organization and Marisa was one of the 11 and she

left it in her Will that the only one who could have this license was me so you were chosen you were Elected, right? because I had been working with her for almost 12 years and you never imagined you were implementing everything for the new system, right, in a certain way you had knowledge of everything that was there and when she made the will I told her but I don't want anything Uhmm, but put it that way, no one can send me away, I don't want anything, I just want to give it to whoever you leave

it to, the person will have to swallow me exactly Take me along, right, like, so you can give the company to whoever you want, the license to whoever you want but NM can take the package Look, my salt, I'm a heritage, this takes the table and I, she, she decided to make it easier and left it for me, she said, no, look, bring one and they won't Get along, let me leave it to her and do it It's been 22 years since she died and in these 22 years I have only honored her memory because

she was a teacher, a friend, an extraordinary person and this work that I am passionate about since then, 22,000 people have passed through mine, a lot of people have been transformed, right? But that thing 80% enjoy 80% do beautiful things like I didn't change country I didn't do anything, right? 33 years later I say this, so I'm divorced, people say oh and that marriage that you saved was saved, it was saved by ISO friend, that's why I'm here, right, but we don't want to be together anymore, right? We don't want any more, eh, I don't

even want a husband anymore, I don't even have one, right, and it's not even that, right? my bed is ok it's ok and I have it like this I can right and he can it's super cool that we can ex I think that's what the process gives us the process gives us the right verb it gives us power but it's not the power of command is the power of can and being responsible for the po we conjugate the right verb I can And then And if I can, I can handle it uhum if I can't

handle it, it won't because I might Not go uhum That's what's very wonderful right, but Eloí, this experience you had and then she comes to you and Marisa comes to you and says, so you go there and take over and Ana says, I don't know that I may have gotten lost here at some point, but Ana went and said like that But what about that patient who came back and was lost there and then you said, I'm going to give you this answer and then Marisa goes and tells you, Come on, or I'll stay there

or I'll stay here So you take over the room there and that's it. It's the paper you came for recycling, the one you didn't get a response to, there was nothing, but today it does both, today you're doing both, and today we have a lot of post-process material, this is fantastic because it gives you opportunities because Give me a chance to study I take care of the PS ones because I started with the PS with P so all my affection I tell him guys I'm here but my affection is for you later uhum because this

here needs to stay Round in your life the process starts moving in your life and it starts moving and it's not quickly it's not one day after another so there's a lot of Post-process exercise we follow the students for three months after the process they keep our personal phone number There are a lot of techniques on our website, Instagram, YouTube, I'm crazy, I tell them guys, I'm a retired old lady who doesn't crochet, she does guided visualization because the process, 70% of it is done with your eyes closed Uh, and today neuroscience is proving that

I saw imagining that changes the nervous system Uhum And everything in the world was imagined before, I love Thomas Edson and Thomas Edson imagined the light bulb, he knew what a light bulb was in his head and he didn't stop until he discovered the light bulb because he I imagined the lamp I knew the person I wanted to become so I imagined it And then it's a technique that we call mental travel it's all over the internet it's on my YouTube it's on Instagram it's on the website it's there I do it in all the

books It's because it's this technique that will make the process start moving Because everything you lived there you lived with your eyes closed so it's time for you to close your eyes and hear my voice again voice of one of the teachers because we are a team and the song is the proposal again oh you Are training our brain is trained so I tell the students you can choose to learn to swim But you can choose to be a champion, true being a swimming medalist is up to you hand, as much as you train, I

wanted to be a medalist, yes, that's the goal, that's what you want to build, I thought this thing I said was so cool, I'm going to train neurop, right? Exactly that's pure, the process is pure neuroplasticity, it's pure neuroscience, opening new paths, but It was created by a guy and what he said was you, the only truth that we defend in the process, you are an inexhaustible source of Love, you were born this way, you were conceived this way, this is the only truth, the rest is what he calls children's programming. uhum in your family

the way it was you had to create a false self you had to create your brain you had to create your personality your self-esteem your self-image all your beliefs why Because you were built by this family but there only. whoever gives you this is your source of love and in the process we take this source in hand uhum doesn't live it, right ? They loved madly they were extraordinary and they didn't always get it right they hurt me and put me at risk and I was mistreated because I didn't have their eyes Uhum but they

loved me more than they could but we can more if we find out the source of love Uhum I can this is self-love I take ownership of who I am of who I truly am Uhum I am a source Uhum And from this source I can build the person I want to be it's a choice I train I can more or less me but my parents will always be with me and my father is a storyteller Me too true but you can choose What story do you want to tell? choose the stories you're going to

tell my parents only looked at the negative Uhum I can look at the positive and tell other stories and I can choose Uhum So that's the power of self-love you can and you can yes and you can no and what's the interception then with faith for example you say that the process says that you are an Inexhaustible source of love eh I think that then I am going to another interpretation that eh We are all beings in the process of awakening consciousness Some will awaken others No, some are, I don't know, at level nine, others

are at level one, so for example, when I see people who bother me deeply I no longer look at these people as, like, that perverse person, that bad person, I look at them as, like, I prefer to believe in the in the human being that he will one day awaken that today it is not possible for him, this does not mean that I will keep myself from the person, I can maintain a distance that would be the hygienic distance, exactly, I can keep myself distant, but so that I do not nourish bad things in me

and do me harm I see it this way he is very far from the human being that he is he did not access his primary ISO source from a source that in my head is a Supreme Divine source Whatever it is, from which we all derive so if there is this source, that's it, we are a source because we came from the source of the source, it's like it was a supreme source and people leave there with a much greater connection with God but it's completely religion with Religion there is no doctrine There's no religion,

there's nothing, they just make this connection, exactly, I understand, it's a connection with something that we call God, but that we don't even know exactly when I say God, I talk about one, you talk about another, you talk about another but it has a creative source Certainly because it doesn't come from nothing that authorized conception how many sexual relations exist that there is no conception and that doesn't generate anything because it wasn't how many conceptions there are and that disappear Uhum there isn't there isn't a source there because it is the source of love that

makes is two 4 8 16 32 right That's the source uhum right because someone authorized someone created you seeing you come so the process is part of this interesting that life is and we have extraordinary atheists fantastic maybe they often leave with a faith because as there is no religion they can allow them to say I connected uhum with something that doesn't have no owner uhum or ritualization or definition so Bobs said I'm a spiritualist I believe in the spirit uhum and In continuity because and every religion believes Certainly every religion is spiritualist, Right ?

This is me CH of consciousness let's go map of Happiness it was your first one And then and at that time when you thought about writing a book I never thought it happened I had an editor Roselie boschini who is aa of Editora Gente and is my student she did the process ch chic who is her brother, anyway, the whole crowd because everyone makes this whole group, these people, all these people on the internet, everything knows that it has to go to the source and then they transform it into something else, but hey, and she

was already my friend and we we took a lecture course together Uhum And I had to put together a lecture And at the end we were next to each other she had to study my lecture And then she said who wrote this thing I said it was me Wow you needed to write a book because This here is more like a book than a PR lecture I only know how to speak, I don't know how to write She spent two years dating me, arranging lunch for me every 15 days, we would have lunch on Friday,

it was fish, it was Cod, it was shrimp, it was there They were getting fatter, you know, and I wrote articles for the newspaper and at that time the press officer wanted these things for the newspaper for I don't know what exactly and I woke up at dawn with an idea and I put that idea and the journalist came and fixed the idea. right, because I said Wow, I write so much better after you fix it, eh, and she took all my publications and divided them into three and said, look, here are three books, if

you let me, I'll write for you, uh, I said, but no one will write my book, put the If I'm going to write, I won't and no, no, good along the way, I had breast cancer, ok, and I had the whole breast removed, I had a total mastectomy, then reconstruction, that comp, there were four surgeries, right? Then you're going to do chemotherapy because it wasn't hormone replacement therapy and the mammogram didn't show the first one when it caught the second one uhum it was already lost it was it's really bad it's really bad because it's

a piece of you that takes out it's really good uhum hey and then I I had already removed the uterus and all of this is a fight with feminine Uhum, all of this is part of the story because it goes to the body And it was, right, it was the female parts that I was cutting Uhum So all of this was good for me to see myself, so I could look at have more forgiveness because it was a piece that had a lot of pieces there that I had to forgive a lot of people that

was Pan with the thing and then I received the news that I didn't need to do chemotherapy I had an exam that went to the United States And then he discovered that it was a matter of hormone replacement and that chemotherapy wasn't going to do me any good. Besides not helping me, it wasn't going to do me any good, but I had to take 5 years of Tamoxifen like I did and so on. Wow, we celebrated, it was a party the next day my son arrived from England he lived in England with Rodolfo he lived

with Estela he had just started college he was going to do dramaturgy there and he came on vacation all this happened June July August he spent there in Paris and then He came here, got home and said, Dad, there's something here in my neck, it was lymphoma, lymphoma, how old was he, 18, that's why Pires went to do administration pir, no, Pires realized that as a doctor he was in poor shape, so do you think I want meet Pires Do you think I didn't have to do chemotherapy that we had celebrated the day before ?

My sister's daughter had Hodgins' lymphoma at the same time, my sister had breast cancer at the same time, it was a year and a half of just cancer there and it was a mess, then it healed, it healed great, he said I'm not going back to England because he then gave a Terrified, he got it and went to do radio as radio TV at FAAP, he went back to college, everything was fine, 9 months later he had a relapse, then the doctor said, we lost, we lost, now we have to go to PR for the

head and go for an autotransplant eh ef when eh ee everything there In that confusion and Rosalia there you have a lot of material now I can't in the middle of the way writing having some insights of self knowledge because I learned so much it was so and I had some insights I wrote well he says look at this here look at this here at night that he took the first chemotherapy to do the autotransplant because then it was 3 months, he couldn't see anyone, he couldn't leave the Room, that thing of destroying cells, right,

it was just me and the father, that thing that was also sensational like everything that happens to We are good, everything that happens is sacred, then I, the doctor called us, he was lying on the bed, it was already nighttime, he was completely knocked down and we were both there, now seeing how we were going to do it, who was going to get out, how did we do it? I came back, I couldn't leave him alone, I couldn't work, there was one and we were there in that tension and feeling sorry for him. He was

only 19 then. At that time he was 19 years old. 19 years old. Then the doctor called us and said look, he's strong. well fed the prognosis is great now there is a cure because he has n but but this could do that could do that could all his teeth fall out could I don't know what in his nose could I don't know what and he could die there is a cure But can become a cure But it can become a death is when I heard this Beatriz was the same she could this she could

that she could that she could become an epil story of no only that now with a boy 20 years later I had I said Guys what the The universe is trying to tell me I was already good at that time Yes, I Was already in the Hoffman process, I had already adopted Eduarda, the family was already complete, man, what do you want, having reunions for forgiveness with the family? What do you want to say? with me it's missing because there's something to understand uhum in these questions I stayed there for a while I don't know

how long it could be a minute and it could have been a day no it wasn't day because it was the same it was the same night I had a moment of enlightenment I I say I had an epiphany uhum you know when I understood life and death I don't know how to explain it it was an epiphany thing really I went back to the room and told Pires I understood I understood I understood looking at me it was crazy, right you already have the history I understand now Whatever happens it will be for love

Beatriz was very angry she was very afraid I already understand now am he is teaching me the lesson again to ask if I learned I learned you can come and redo that story but now you I would have to take care with love, no longer with anger or with fear because whatever happens is because very badly with Beatriz you had it was a very ambiguous feeling that remained there Love and Hate had And then when she had a seizure You, my God, for Please forgive me because I hope I don't kill her and I was

always like that I wanted to control her ex and Rodolfo's life I let go and I said it will be You handed over the universe it will be as it has to be as it will be I will drink from this source and I will be together With him Piris started to cry because he said I can't do it uhum so much so that he was the one who controlled it so much he took it to all the chemotherapies he was the one who went because I say I'm going to work and life will flow

if I get it sorted out it will flow and he says no to me I'm not that evolved I'm going to need to control it but it was wonderful he did Well anyway and that one the next day and then I slept there so who's going to stay It's me, okay bye until morning okay Then I and I stayed three days later the other one came it stayed for three more days, finally we started making our plans and the next day I called Roselie uhum and said Roseli I'm ready to write I'm going to write

the map of happiness because I have the map now I know what to do and this reconnection with this source this delivery in reality I mix the hofman process I tell you what the process is ahem how we do to be happy Pass step I tell you essence is the reconnection with a source that only makes people happy and the e the end of the story is if you forgive let go because Beatriz I wouldn't forgive fate Uhum I didn't forgive fate I didn't deserve that Rodolfo yes I understood come what may And then I

saw the map of him in the three months that we were in the hospital Rodolfo was discharged on February 22nd discharged healed cured everything worked the stem cells Everything was wonderful, instead of being stuck in the drama, we were stuck in the treatment uhum how spectacular it was And then Pires said this I graduated 35 years ago what Rodolfo has had no cure thanks to the dole sheep uhum Today he has a cure and I can watch this as my son's cure happens, which 35 years ago was impossible, so we were left with how cool

it is to remove the stem cells from the body Look how it's done Look how cool Look what's happening, we enjoyed the treatment of evolution of Medicine service of life to be lamenting big time It's because there's the day of the catch, the hospital was Spectacular, it looks sensational, everything was very cool but we were in this vibe that it's the universe Okay and Let's go in favor of this where I was he was sleeping I went to the bathroom and wrote, then I recorded it, I had an idea, I recorded it, and then on

May 27, 2012, 2014, 2014, 2014, the map of happiness came out, and it sold so much, it already sold 70,000 copies, right, Uh, he doesn't stop because he left the my belly he was ready he was ready I wrote it 10 years ago it's turning 10 years 10 years this year as if it were a biography and it's turning 10 years ago now that Rodolfo said so I had a new life because it was completely renewed, right? rodol It's beautiful today he's a sports journalist he's a football commentator anyway Look how cool he is yesterday

he was there with Palmeiras not so he 's a Corinthians fan he's a Corinthians fan well he's improved but he has to do the pap he has to do it how cool cool And then right after him came the sequel came super as it worked out really well years later came the forgiveness because then Roselie said like this Elô write whatever you want because the map was ready It's as if I hadn't chosen He was the one who gave me chose is forgiveness was is I want to write it's like the cherry on the cake

there because on the map there is a whole chapter of anger A whole chapter of forgiveness I said but it's not enough I'm going to write a book about forgiveness and today I I present myself as an activist for Forgiveness, right? I said so to Roselie, I'm going to write a book that says, revenge breeds madness, illness. I start the first chapter it starts like this Vengeful I uhum because I'm going to tell it and then it's in this book that I tell the story of Beatriz and Estela of how I forgave myself Estel who

was the girls' first contact, right, it's perfect and then it's liberating when we are exactly perfect, life becomes easier, it becomes lighter, right? I don't know if it's easy because I think life is like a college, it makes it difficult but I think we become lighter to face the biggest challenges challenges I don't need to live I let go of that situation easily but I need to free myself from that letting go is letting go of that bad feeling of anger I always tell the students the criminals they need to be arrested they need to

be removed from society so they don't hurt Anyone else Uhm but they they shouldn't be beaten uhum they need to go through a re-education process because this process that ended yesterday even I was telling the students we are cousins ​​of the chimpanzee the chimpanzee is our closest cousin he lives in the community he has a boss and he beats to teach but he doesn't hit women he doesn't hit children and he doesn't hit disabled people We learned to hit because hitting is atavistic so we educate by hitting and our older cousin taught us But he

is much more evolved in the sense of selectivity he doesn't hit woman We are the ninth country that kills the most women in the world, the ninth, so we have to go back and learn that these chimpanzee cousins, right, because monkeys don't beat the disabled monkeys, they live there making their messes there and nobody cares about them. children don't get beaten he beats the young people and the monkeys who will have to give their skin there to support support that community the issue of territory but women never never and not even children are perfect, true,

so I say it like this, only forgiveness will give this Awareness to humanity that we understand can re-educate people and if you treat people well they will improve, I don't know if they will , but you give them the opportunity to experience something new a connection with the source I have more faith than you, I don't think so, I have a lot of faith in humanity, you can't imagine how much I think they do, I think there are also those who won't, Uh, it's the absolute minority, but there are some who It's not the moment,

what I said, I'm going to love that person, the human being he's about to become, because our destiny is to awaken our destiny is to realize humanity as humanity, right? So I won't see that person improve, maybe in this my life but that's what I'm saying that's why I love I love the human being who will one day awaken because there's no way if I came from a source that generates love I will one day have to return to it or here from consciously or involuntarily there is no talk to the students I talk to

the students this way we will love each other it is the destiny of humanity if this is our destiny Why don't you start now Exactly go Whoever starts first wins So let's go before Exactly exactly I want to get to the line after I die I want to get to the line like this, right? There's a sign here, you didn't try, you don't know anything, no, it's not mine, no, there it is, here are those who tried and bet on love, I I'm going to go to the little girl there, I don't know which door

I'm going to open up, but I'm going to go there too, I'm going, I'm going because I'm betting on love, Pero and I'm just, of course, it's everything within what we believe, no SRO about this theory that Bob I'm going to tell you that without forgiveness we can't achieve self-love because we don't take ownership because we keep getting caught up in lots of other things that aren't us and with forgiveness you let go of the hooks. Then it fits here, love own ex That's why I say it's a question of intelligence, not kindness, I'm not

saying anything, you have to be good, you don't know how to have a good heart, I have a very good heart, no, I'm bad, I'm not, I'm not even worried about this intelligently the guy who hurt me right uhum why am I the one who has to pay his bill let him go Detach let him go who will have to do with his problem He has to be responsible because yes, self-love has the It's not about accountability, it's not what you do, I respect you, we have a sign there in the process, the student enters

the room and it's my life, my responsibility and it's true because you stop fic, you can accuse the other, no, you didn't love me because the other the other, what the other did is his problem, he will fight to solve it, but now I'm going to go back to my loving home, but my mother will continue to be annoying, yes, yes, yes, what are you going to do with it, it's your problem, exactly, go, go, try it Doing something different one day it works, one day it doesn't, then you try again I'm here, I tell

him guys, I'm in the process, I've been in the process since I was 18 years old, I've been in the process for 50 years, do you think I've arrived? No, I'm in the process, you have to review it every day and we have to review it every day, the process every day is a new day, day, we can do things that I say happen, Um, but I didn't want that to happen, forgive me for letting go is Bru, let's get to the questions, let's go, we have a community called the sustainable human being community, this

is a community that has Nothing to do with a bank, it is a community of people who are interested in knowledge, sometimes not everyone there has a degree or is a doctor, they are not people who are interested in content and And then what we do 15 days before the guest comes we launch the guest's name in the community and give them ways to go there anonymously to see some of their content and they put it together the questions that are part of this second stage of our meeting are here And then they put together

the questions and we play them for you, okay, can we, what strategy can be adopted to manage impatience in the amazing work environment, right? Impatience is a learned behavior we learn from our father and mother or from our caregivers And then there is a neural connection which is called impatience in our nervous system and the question is what is it that what declan cha right What is it that pulls which trigger What is the trigger of that impatience If you pay attention then I usually say that self-knowledge has the watchword It's attention uhum pay attention

to you because the moment when impatience came You can say wait but what was I Actually doing that gave me this this thing here this self-observation this this is knowledge and then it's always like this you want to Do you care about this? Do you care about this person bossing you around because she's the one who's bossing you around Uhm, she's the one saying, be impatient, I don't want anyone to boss me around, in fact, I spend all my time taking power away from others. Excuse me, this power is mine, I'm the one who's going

to decide whether or not I'm going to get upset with your behavior, I'm the one who's going to see if I'm going to get upset or not with your ugly face, I'm the one who's going to see if I take responsibility for me and pay attention, tell me man the guy who is deciding that I 'm going to be impatient with him ah ah let him do what he wants that's managing I choose but for that I need to pay attention to myself for sure because what gives impatience to a It's not exactly that it

makes someone impatient for another ISO someone is arriving at my table, bursting with anger, I said, but what's happening because the other one didn't catch me, it was another trigger, something else that gets me, this isn't it, but I need to pay attention to I understand why it is self-knowledge Management management is managing something is knowing that thing that is managing managing people you need to know people managing process you need to know process managing your impatience you need to know it where it comes from and what awakens next Bru how is it possible to

cultivate empathy during situations of pressure and stress Oh look, I don't think what we said about empathy is possible because you know why Because this thing keeps reminding me that I need to be an angel Uhum And I'm a human being and the human being has all the characteristics, almost 5000 characteristics have already been mapped. So everything makes me up and I am plural as a human being, so to say that I have to be empathetic when I'm under pressure, when I'm under pressure and in stress, I'm under pressure and in stress the first step

of any change is awareness I realize that I'm leaving that comfortable range that I want to be I'm under pressure I'm here in my stomach it hurts because I'm under stress awareness Uhmm then I I ask what I do with it but as long as I'm not aware of it, there's no point because it goes on Automatic because pressure, stress discharges the limbic system, it's out of my control, if I'm not aware that this happens, it's running on its own, it's a system on its own. It's our childhood system, it's our primitive brain, the more

it comes back, it comes back with everything we learned in childhood, so very quickly I'll go back to being the troglodyte if I'm no good and then say something like this, whatever the impact, whatever the impact, why? Because I'm under the greatest pressure, I'm scared, right? Because it's just fear, this pressure and these, I'm not sure, anxiety, fear comes from this system of pressure and stress nearby Bru Do you believe that most people face challenges related to negative love syndrome, what do you think? that is negative love syndrome which is ISS melesse name is explain

I didn't say that name because someone someone snooped very well it was L there is why she should talk about it in some the theory of the process Ah that's what the syndrome says syndrome is a right set of symptoms feel and Bob says Everyone has this syndrome love negative love I don't know yet love is love that's missing uhum I understand it's the love that's missing and he'll say that we all feel Abandoned Uhum And we've already mapped it out five childhood pains that every child feels, so one of them is abandonment, like Bob

was very simple, he sums it all up by saying you felt abandoned Not seen, not loved, uhum, because of that, as your parents were the perfect ones, they were the ones who warmed them, they fed them. They were the ones who packed it, they were the owners of the place and perfect because when I'm hungry, mom arrives, uhm, right, when I'm cold, dad arrives, I'm crying someone rocks me man These guys are the most I can do for lack of love like they don't love me all the time I don't feel perfect They are the

ones I give up on myself so I give up on my source and I'm going to create a fake I'm going to be a copy and repeat of my parents you change the font ISO which is not a real font that's it that's that and they are the font my father was my God Uhum And then I'm going to be just like and my mother was Jesus Christ because in my house there was a hierarchy there was God and Jesus Christ father son holy spirit than your sister the holy spirit was and me The Sinner

exactly you were at the end of the herarchy the three of them are the best my Mother my sister is my mother substitute because my mother gave her the role, my mother didn't like it so my sister Poor thing, 3 years older than me she had to take care of at 8 years old she had three children that she had to take care of because she had to take care of my mother, right? Uhum, so she 's my substitute, we obeyed my sister more than my mother and she was much angrier, my father was that

tyrannosaurus, I'm going to copy the storyteller, I'm going to copy my father completely because children are very smart at first seven years of life we ​​enter with emotional intelligence, I know the world through my feeling and I know the world through sensation with my physical intelligence, Bob will say that we have four intelligences, emotional, physical, intellectual and spiritual, which do not it has no religious connotation it is a part of us with these four until the age of 7 it is only the two that reign the emotional and the physical and but I will become

an expert on my father and my mother At this point my nervous system is being built my synapses are being made I turn them copy and repeat copy and repeat Copy and repeat I learn to do this in the most primitive system that we have which is the lí lío system Uhum then we go to 6 7 years of age the intellect begins to appear we already have enough neurons to do abstraction, right we Abstract one plus one like that thing that draws two we will be literate from then on all our education is focused

on our performance that's how much you learned uhum how much your intellect is Well, when you read it, you know how to do it, you don't know how to do it, who are you going to be when you grow up if the emotional intelligence that was reigning is overlooked so much and I'm still trying to be loved so now I'm going to copy my parents, how come they think the prejudices the beliefs the established truths are the same because my world is my home right the school is the size of what I know I know

the school my parents who put me in the school they who decided if I have a grandmother or not if I, if we have a big family or if we moved 10,000 km away and only have one little family, they were the ones who decided our childhood, so they are the biggest ones, I will Copy everything, Bob Hoffman will say that around the age of 12, when enter puberty it says in the first menstruation of girls in the first ejaculation of boys the programming what you were learning it closes and seals from then on you

are cop and repetition is over your Freedom your free will you go to the adult world with the beliefs you You already have established the truths, all the prejudices, everything that was in your childhood home, including the football team, right? And even citizenship, right? I have Portuguese citizenship, with my father being Portuguese, he was the one who decided this because I had this father, right? to all this I'm going to my childhood home I 'm going to my adult life but my limbic system is it it doesn't change after it's learned it only repeats who

gets smart It's this one but we use very little of it, you're saying what our cortex, this is where the transformation is, I'm going to understand all this, plasticity, certainly not the Olympic man doesn't have any plasticity, he just repeats, he's instinctive, so it puts me in stress, Uh, I'm going to be the one my father was because he comes back it's learned uhum eh it scares me Come back it's learned yes so when he says do you believe that most people no I believe that all people without exception next Bru what are the effective

steps to incorporate new habits in the routine Look, this is cool, I talk about it straight away, habits we change, we change, first, believe that it changes, but it has to be very small, nothing you are going to do to change can cause you fear uhum because fear is a blocker Bob Hoffman said that fear is the opposite of love if you are afraid you go to negative love the love that was missing is the love behind if you change then Eh Wake up 10 minutes earlier half an hour earlier go to sleep 10 minutes

later do small constant things Constancy generates success so The effective steps are Constancy of Small Steps, I got used to it, it became a habit, now I'm going to take one more step, as we are systemic and the habit that I incorporate in one place goes to all other things, right? So how do I do one? thing I do all things so changing habits is very useful because I do just a little bit and the whole system absorbs the change so it's possible it's possible to change as long as you 're not afraid it's so

interesting to be talking about because like that when we have a reaction of stress, I'm arguing with two, right, sorry, when we don't, but we're speaking the same language with different views, but it's the same truth, when you have stress, you have a release of cortisol from everything, it's not the neuron that it becomes impregnated with cortisol adrenaline It's every cell in your body that's oive the entire system including the immune system that's why it lowers immunity so we have to stop thinking that we think it's like that ah neurotransmitter discharged in the brain it's

just neur no any cell of yours will incorporate it, that's why Change of Habit changes the skin and changes, right, it changes everything, I don't know how many you go from being adrenergic to parasympathetic, right, then it calms down, it makes everything close Bru, there is an innate capacity for leadership in all individuals there is this is the defense Um come on this is my defense So there is a sleeping lion inside us there is first we know how to be born uhum eh then if you are the source You know wisdom is internal there

is no external wisdom it is internal wisdom I I always say that life brings us wisdom, it's not because of what happened to us, it's because we let go of a lot of things that happened, and we let go of our baggage, you would say we let go and it's a form of forgiveness, letting go It's forgiveness, it's detachment, right, forgiveness is letting go ex Exactly, it's releasing that And then sometimes it's not even with the intention of forgiving but then so much time has passed other things so much worse have happened other pains I

saw because life teaches us, right? You don't even need to pay attention, life keeps nudging you and then you let go and as you let things go outside you go inside and you become wiser because inside is your wisdom as is yours leadership so I have a course called education for leaders that talks about self-leadership you can't lead anyone if you don't lead yourself Surely and the leadership is in there so it's in reality The source is that then I can have the power of leadership ISO And then I discover that I can handle it,

I understand, and then I can handle myself, if I can handle myself, oh I can talk to you or I can inspire The other ex to be aware of myself too, because when I can handle myself, people want so much so that the moment I realize they follow you, perfect, it's because you, so it's just me, insert it, it's inspiration, next Bru, what are the best ways to develop emotional intelligence, well, the first step is awareness, you start to become aware of yourself. what is happening in your life and everything that is around you, preferably

remember that you come from a source for attention, Bob created a methodology And there are Four Steps in this methodology, first awareness, then expression, giving the right to the child who is inside You don't know, I know mine goes crazy but people don't know, right ? That's cool, that's cool, aaa, then you, when you give your child the right to do so, you rescue the emotional intelligence that remained dormant at the age of 6 or 7 because your head began to pay off, eh, I always I say this people say what happened in the world

we say I think therefore I exist no one Ever taught you I feel therefore I exist so express to the child joy sadness anger everything all the emotions eh Gives you the right to grow because you rescue that child and you can make this intelligence Grow because while you don't authorize this child he stays there bossing you because we are bossed by our emotions uhum we do everything emotionally this thing about talking so it was reasoned reasoned reasoned and didn't do it, you can't even have reasoned with the influence of emotional but we marry out

of emotion we buy out of emotion we are all sure sure to bring balance if I don't have my al knowledge I am guided by that if I know who I command in my emotion Oops let me get to know you certainly a lot of pleasure, right And let's make her mature because otherwise she'll end up throwing tantrums like I used to throw tantrums as a child, a super intelligent adult Professor Doctor saying I'm not going, I'm offended, I'm angry like children, and takes everything as Guys, I say, I don't take anything personally, right? Well,

I develop my child, well, it's us, right, my pajamas. I have a friend, where He travels, he takes a little monkey with an owl like that, with eyes that big, that 's cool. I sleep next to him, that's it, so these Four Steps I authorize, I express, I forgive, And then I recycle, I have a new behavior, I change, that is the awareness I am not, and the awareness of who I am and for where do I want to go? That's exactly what the process proposes is the integration of the four intelligences, they are all

the same size and they have the same importance . body because you don't pay attention to it and just think the emotion stays down there and I say I don't feel anything but she is bossing me and the spiritual I depend on doctrine I depend on someone else telling me I depend on going somewhere I depend on me I depend on outsiders, not on leaders who often have nothing to do with you, then you will reproduce other patterns and repeat it all over again without end No End in sight Bru how beliefs about money and

Life impact the high value and actions of people money Is of high value uhum how much do I cost What is my value uhum How much money does this mean we learn to lead and deal with money in our childhood home uhum What are the beliefs that we heard, watched, saw, noticed in that system family Uhum And that's what I'm going to take into adult life so it's directly high value as to how much your value is there are spectacular people who don't know how to charge how much their work costs uhum right they need

to give eh and in reality they cost everything and it's value and it's money so I also have a course material world is money I also do a course called money and Life uhum because in this course I'm going to prove the thesis that money and love are the same energy they move the world of abundance they move the world, money moves the economy and the economy moves the world, love I also understand People say there's a lack of love in the world, there's no shortage of it, in fact It's because there's love that the

World Continues still exists and the earth doesn't fall, I say that the earth isn't It's falling, it's in the solar system, it revolves around it, it revolves around the sun and it doesn't fall because it has love to support it, it's from the source Of the nearby source Bru, it's possible to find it, it's me, you're sorry, no, you're not sorry, you want to distract me, it's the love is love, that's it, it's possible to find a healthy balance between control and flexibility in relationships and day-to-day activities, that's my defense, right ? lecture that I

can give and you say oh wow and now after that there is the awakening for you because then it's every day a little bit can't be a lot because it will make you afraid we are very afraid of leaving the comfort zone it's with comfort may hurt like hell but we're used to it, we already know it, we say it, it's not, it's not better, the known devil than that one that I don't know, right, it's the devil, work, work, know this, so I prefer to stay here, so it can't cause fear, but it's a

little bit every day, there's no vacation, there's no Saturday and Sunday, there's no holiday amendment, it's a little bit every day, but it's just a little bit but it's constant, perfect, Constância next Bru, what practical strategies can be adopted to improve and strengthen A person's high value if they know who they are, right? practical strategies are always the same I go I'm repetitive what I believe in is self-knowledge exactly So when you get to that place you look, for example, this course is a self-knowledge course But I only look at the money uhum, right It's

one. As for leadership, I'm self-knowledge but I focus It's as if I slice self-knowledge completely And then I look at my relationship with money, with money and with life, yes, because I'm going to defend that it's all the same as you enjoy it. abundance is how much you sunbathe uhum How I do one thing I do all things so if my scarcity is in money my scarcity is in every place in my life I love little I have little sex I eat poorly I sleep life is scarce, that's why there is a lack of money,

but there are also people who have a lot of money and it is scarce, it's because money is not linked to them exactly personally, exactly, people with a lot of money are totally not happy, but they are scarce, they are petty, they Are not scarce I understand they are stingy they don't give things it's different from not having it so they because how do I do something if there's money there's also going to work health there's going to be good food there's going to be a better bed to sleep going because there's money but there

isn't happiness because it's petty and pettiness doesn't give it and in the money and life course I say like this we have to have some verbs that we have to remove from the vocabulary so and winning is directly linked to losing, right This person eh, why does she have a miserable life? Because she's very afraid of losing what she has because she's petty, how she's not going to make that money work, how she's going to find it with a lot of difficulty, how she will, because she needs to have it, right? She's petty, she has

a stingy life , right? And money is linked to giving and receiving Surely the more you give, the more you receive, the more you receive, you give the more because money is circular, it circulates, it maintains the economy on the five continents, it's money, it's money and it's money the same for everyone we only change the ethnicity like the race uhum the race is human we only change the ethnicity the money is The same as the money The only thing that changes the ethnicity is the pound and it's real it's Yen and it's Euro but

the money It's the same, it's the same energy and money doesn't exist, it's just an idea, certainly like love, which can be an idea that I take, it's an idea that I want to make tangible or it's an idea that I don't make tangible So it's a love that I can make good tangibilization turns into a pleasant life and or it's money that I don't take but the idea is the same, yes, give or receive, so Eh, the strategies are always self-knowledge, close self-knowledge Bru How can we build individually to promote an environment happier at

work Considering the impact of happiness on the organizational climate From what I understand, the person wants to know how to promote individual and collective happiness in the work environment, that's it, the collective is never in your hands, yes, you can inspire, you can propose, eh, but the individual It's always looking at you, how satisfied are you with that environment, how much are you able to relate positively to people, how much patience will you have? I think we have a lot of difficulty because we fall in love with what's different, that's what We lack it, we

are completely in love and we want it, but we can only live with the same, a similar person, at least that's it. And then we bring the work environment, the more diverse it is, the richer it is because diversity is rich because it is plural so everyone gives a piece Everyone does it in their own way Everyone thinks in a different way and says man how cool I hadn't thought of like this, look and And then the experience runs, but I can only work with equals uhum And then, unlike me, I gossip over coffee, I

find a way to pull the rug out, I don't deliver what I had to deliver so the person can't get it do her job, right? I'm going from boycott to boycott. So individually, I need to recognize my diversity. If I recognize that I'm plural, man, I'm so many things, and I am, I have good and evil inside me, so I can be authoritarian, I can be rude, I can be stupid and I can be Generous. It doesn't stop one thing from another, but we work or it's this or that and in reality it's what we

need to learn because I'm all that, right? it makes up my Humanity so if I have this awareness of myself individually I say if I I always say this if I deserve forgiveness oh guys I did something stupid it was huge it escaped but I deserve forgiveness because I'm a good person but if I deserve it why don't you so if I'm plural Why don't you uhum if I'm diverse Why don't you then we always fall first than the question It's well done because it's only individual right you can't do uhum indual individually first it's

because the collective is stupid right, the collective is a herd, right, herd movement exactly close Bru Ah dear, don't calm down, my dear, you won't get rid of this is our dear pipinho, he is our mascot, he lives with lots of love, with lots of forgiveness, he was created with lots of love, created happy, free, forbidden watching television is prohibited, he only listens to good content And then he also listened to you, he also researched a little about you and then he always prepares some key words in a game of ping-pong that he likes and

he asks his mother to play for you which It's Ana, some words and these words you return with whatever comes into your head head feel before rationalizing Feel before rationalizing My God, you're ready and if you wanted, look, I feel, I exist, whatever comes to mind, and if you want to also pass on some of the words It can be said that he is not spiteful pipinho he is one of love and forgiveness pipinho pipinho was created in the 60s and the highlight when everything was peace, I understand, it was P for love and no

one knew what was going to happen then it was Essence then later perverted but it's okay so let's go my dear one love forgiveness two Forgiveness love three control nonsense four self-knowledge is perfect five happiness is I want uhum six innovation is is is necessity seven If you could enter a time capsule would you choose to go back to the past or go for the future and for going back to the past going back to the past I would like to have Beatriz again perfect perfect cool to do like she did with Rodolfo perfect in

a different way cool is faith God nine Complete the sentence being a leader is owning yourself perfect huh I loved it also and 10 life purpose is to do the best possible, always every day a little bit always I don't know but every day a little Bit, just see how easy our wonderful little pipinho was, my dear, I wanted to give it to you here as a gift, happiness was written at the time of the pandemic that I refused to be unhappy at home, the restless minds and the consumerist minds that here I put this

pattern well that we learn to consume from our parents because no child is born wanting or having needs, right? I wanted to thank you I really want you to use this camera now to give all your messages to those who want to find you, your networks, courses, books, whatever you want It's good, we've already talked about everything here, but I wanted to tell you first that you think I'm there anywhere I'm very good Eloí Capela you can find it anywhere go to Google chapels chapels chapels it's a lot of Little Church you won't forget it

anymore eh I'm out there right I wrote Three books as you saw but what I wanted to say It's just that you are an inexhaustible source of love, thank you very much, dear, I wanted to thank you so much here so we can make a chain, of course, thank you very much for your presence there, but I brought My books, I also brought them, thank you very much, love is transformative, Eloí, thank you for everything, beginnings created exactly we are created for ISS er in between it is true the We get confused in the middle,

dear, we're finishing up the kite powder episode and today was with this dear Eloísa capelas, if you want to know more about everything she said here, if it made sense to you @ Eloí acapelas everywhere too and For those of you who believe that knowledge and self-knowledge is the only way we can exist and inspire other people, connect here in our pod pipo community. Don't forget to subscribe and share with everyone who you think makes some sense. today's content and click the Bell to receive all notifications Thank you very much and see you next time

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