Foreign people they lazy Rocky is Rocky this is moving like Bollywood I have same problem my father you don't have nothing my kids they have everything like when you make Dua what do you ask for I have too much for that I think how I can ask something make at least minimum I spent in Instagram one hour I I don't understand what you're talking about I was in Liverpool what are you talking about drink alcohol or eat pork they'll say no no no but what about riba would there be anything that would bring you back
I live this sport alone without myself it's uh great to have you here how are you doing brother good good yeah um one of the things I wanted to ask you personally I'm I'm very much into my technology so this is something that I always want to know about um I guess what what phone to use uh uh or do you think they're gonna pay me they might do they might iPhone which one honestly I like uh 13 still 13 yes not 40. not 14 because I don't have time to transfer move move to from
13 to 14 you know it's like we need to get wide to get you the 14 and so the app looks beautiful I'm gonna check I'm gonna check this this is nice cameras are good but yeah the the transfer can be can be oh like for using it's very easy easy yeah I know they have like a lot of people like fan of uh what's the name other one Samsung Samsung LG so many yeah but so many they have like there's like like friends you know you're a fan of iPhone or how how they call
this other other phone Android Android so your iPhone I am like last 10 years I think maybe yeah last 10 years since 12 2012. very good so brother Omar here is Android so we can be iPhone team iPhone I've got both actually yeah Android as well as uh iPhone um the other thing I want to ask you is um we you as a fighter obviously that's what you are and that's what you're known for who is your favorite fighter uh when I grew up it was uh two maybe three three my favorite Fighters when I
was 16. they was on prime it was fader it was Mauricio Shogun Rua and George simker okay it was on prime it was like UFC and pride Champions and I was grew up watching their fights You know nice and when I meet them first it was like very big emotional for me you know because I grew up with the fights so this this is how we feel a little bit right now because um Omar who's your favorite fighter mine actually it depends from which hang life we're talking about MMA I gotta say I think it
was probably voice Gracie that changed it for me um I used to do uh Wing Chun and some mixed martial arts back in day with a brother and that time UFC was very different yeah it was not big it was not big it was not big it was not big like Pride that's right Pride was like biggest organization and it was very very mixed in terms it was for one of a better term it was almost like a circus in terms of people were coming lots of different times I think it was Pat Smith at
that time and Royce Gracie came in and he changed the face I think because not many people they not don't know how to use like grappling submissions yeah game you know because he was the first he was a first and it was a lot of wrestlings and Strikers they fight with uh with him and they was big but they don't have Knowledge so how to deal with his uh Brazilian Jiu Jitsu yeah and he was he was looking amazing for with these big guys and that was for me was the turning point I think just
seeing because the the submission in the ground the technical ability because it was very new for world you know like the the way how they show this uh Gracie family toward even if you're small you can build bigger guys it was it was like big news for everyone around the world even from Russia people U.S people you know Euro people like everybody they were how Royce crazy came to UFC and he he make top everyone like doesn't matter if even he bigger than him like 50 kill you know so um I uh for me it
was always Muhammad Ali and um it was because I was very I'm very new to only last few years when mixed martial arts has become quite popular and I think that's you know with with yourself behind um a lot of these big fights has got a lot of people interested into mixed martial arts and you know like when I ask people all the time who is your favorite fighter yeah like athlete without Muhammad Ali I ask them all the time because everybody for sure They're gonna say Muhammad Ali okay without Muhammad Ali who else yes
well my question who's your favorite athlete from UK from the UK that's because you're from UK I'm from UK I'm born in the UK you're born in Leicester and you don't know nothing about Leicester football we want we won the Premier League and we were that was the main thing okay I have a question for you God what year what year 2016. okay because a lot of people when they act like they know something I I I ask them like numbers age you know yeah then you can understand who is Lester doesn't have much to
celebrate so that one thing that they had we actually have a lot to celebrate have you been celestable never okay you're gonna have to come down too much I think maybe it's very close to England right no no no no it's London not England yeah two two hours two hours I'll come and pick you up next time you learned it let me know no unless that I never been no you wanna be able to come down Manchester London it's like it's very very close to Birmingham Liverpool I've been in Liverpool you've been told you've not
you have to come to Leicester we have lots of halal food everywhere we've got so much Burgers I know you like your food by the way okay but what do you what do you like in particular right now if we ask the team here bring Habib a meal of his choice what would it be yeah I like chicken chicken I like chicken I like salads and healthy buggers yes yes like burgers too like depends yeah I don't like it every Burger I like like high quality high quality and uh and uh soda so right now
like last maybe couple days almost week I cut you cut it I'm I'm with the guys in training camp and you know it's like sometime to deal with them like for running or for some exercise for CrossFit for conditioning it's like sometimes you feel heavy you know I'm like okay after a couple days we have one more like this training yeah I have to cut because I want to look good even yeah because you sometimes you cut soda like for one week maybe you can lose like a couple like couple kills you know yeah it's
so interesting how like with all these things that you have now even though you're not competing right now you still Have to look after yourself because you're around the brothers who are also training so much it's it's very important because you have to control yourself all the time I go to scales like okay I'm a little bit older than one kilo and I'm gonna come back you know I control myself on 93 kilo 93 kilo that's yours yeah I wanna I wanna be on this maybe the next 10 years this is my goal next 10
years not over the 93 killer okay less it's like very hard to keep you know like 88 89 you have told they can follow diet no good energy you know no sugar no no no sugar no no good energy no I have to meet a lot of people go train like so many things you have to do and you need this energy because when you all the Timeless people meet with people they take your energy all the time you know not many people around me where I can get energy because when you're famous you give
you give all this is giving and sometimes like little bit sugar soda or something this is give you like Spike some energy you know and it's very hard to do all these like a very hard to deal with everything whatever around you and same time you have you follow the diet it's Like this is it's a little bit naturally with like stress you know in the camp you're speaking about I think that's set up now mashallah I think you set up home here I think this month and next month do you take the role of
kind of leader of the camp how do you shape your managing that um it's like uh because I'm her biggest brother right now yeah all this maybe like one two people older than me and my our camp right now almost 30 people there here in Dubai and um yes because I was doing this all my life and I know what they need we have Hotel we have food we have cars and we have gym and every every single day you wake up train eat sleep and repeat this is what you need when you have your
training camp you know and here in Dubai uh he treat us like you know amazing this treatment is like on different level and they give us everything gym like you take care of us like he's kids you know and uh and right now we're here only because invite us and this has happened last more than three years first time we came here When I Was preparing for Dustin purified When I Was preparing it was like end of the beginning Of August it was a little bit more than one month because uh before Dustin purified it
was beginning of September here is like very um like crazy weather you have to come if you want to fight if you want to make weight if you want to recover if you wanna don't feel jetlag you have to be here 30 days all the time when like when we fight here in Abu Dhabi where we have four guys in that card 22nd October we have to come here more than month because jet lag is crazy here like a lot of people underestimate this a lot of people think when you have when okay for example
if you fight in Mexico City like it's like more than 3000 meters Under the Sea you have to go there one month no worse in desert worse like because we're from Mountain we can we can fly to Mexico and fight like in the mountains it's easy but because we're from Mountain for us it's like very hard to deal with uh desert desert weather and all the time I came here we have like at least two weeks uh jet lag yes is that like your capacity for taking oxygen is better I had not known for us
for all of us not only for me everybody complained about here like Jet lag they cannot sleep very hard like you know like two weeks they've they feel like not okay and now now we're already here 10 days and we're gonna be here one more month and one month before the fight it's like it's perfect days to recover to finish your jet lag to make weight everything you know even here to sweat it's very hard a lot of people here come no no this is not bad you cannot go outside and make weight this is
It's don't work like this you have to you have to be here inside the building and there is like so many conditions you know like and no oxygen and a lot of people have problem to make weight yes I know this because I was talking with around the world like with a lot of Fighters who who came here and make way they all have difficult time so you came here from from the UK directly or were you in the restaurant and then came here so the same depending which way you traveled from does that make
a difference ah doesn't matter where you can it's always it's always same for everybody I know like a lot of people now looking for most of the fighters who's gonna fight 22nd October they're gonna come seven or Ten days before the fight after seven days or ten days this is like your Peak for jet lag okay and there is a lot of people underestimate you like even like when I fight with uh just engaging yes I am like I was following when this guy gonna come here and he come like Saturday and next time Saturday
you're supposed to fight with me it's like I'm like no next Saturday it's gonna be worse for him and during the fight I was talking with him and I tell him yeah just like he said no no not yet like but I know you know he feels like a lot of people underestimate Jen like when you travel so much you realize because it's not only the time it's also the environment and as you were saying like the Heat and everything um one of the things I'm interested to know is before you know before you were
at this level you didn't have like you know you were saying you've got the house now you've got you know everybody together you've got access to all of this stuff does that make it does that help training or does that because you you have watched Rocky movies you know how on Rocky 3 like when he's got everything he's he's not training as hard And there's like people cameras everywhere and then when he's training on the you know the Rough Side he's like does it make a difference does it make it easier or is it a
bit more challenging right now if you want to become champion and if you want to compete in a high level you need so many things around you uni first of all you need good people right people who have good knowledge we have good energy we have good experience and they can share with you second of course you like if you compared Inside the Cage you have to spar inside the cage at least like couple times in week you have to feel cage you cannot just spot inside the ring and come to UFC and Inspire like
every single every single moment is gonna uh is gonna give you a hard time you know you've never spot in a cage how are you gonna deal if someone put you on cage you know if someone pressured you you have to defend from take down against against a cage this is a little bit different I can say uh like open much is different ring is different and that's why you have to you need all this treatment you know you you have this is like Rockies Rocky this is movable you know like even Like you haven't
like okay Indian movie yeah Bollywood Bollywood dude do you watch anything who's your favorite actor I'm gonna put you in this one something like this yeah like this is this is like uh this is real this is real life yeah this is not movie you know yeah it was my first time when I see cage and when I compete in cage it was my debut in UFC but before in Russia I never compete I never trained in cage never okay and first time it was like very new you know it was very difficult to deal
you know this is different angles different views different energy you know you have to feel it you have to feel it and you need good technology what the cutting weight yeah yes and because all UFC fighters they cut like minimum maybe like 10 kilo 10 kilos and they don't have too much white you know like for example if someone fight okay if some fight in lightweight 155 but right now he's weighed like 180 and you have to cut 25 pounds and it's like 25 pounds it's like not easy you know and everybody doing this like
for example Charles he's big too he's like tall big huge you have to cut weight and him and he and you you cannot train in uh Forest Yeah come out from forest and make weight you know this is like you have to stay focused you know you you were saying earlier about the the kind of cycle and um the regime one of the better term I think regime is good because it's very kind of repetitive and it's reminding me of that saying from Bruce Lee goes don't worry about the person who can do a thousand
kicks but the person who's practiced the king a thousand times and then actually from a business perspective just kind of bring in there's a there's a really good book called The Tipping Point and he talks about why is it some people become well known or they become successful versus other people and what the book said is ultimately it comes down to practice and the the magic number is something like 5 000 hours believe it or not or doing the same thing and from your point of view when you talk about training Etc is it just
that repetition repetition um that will get you to that level you know I was like I was doing same thing all my life stability stability if you don't have stability if you don't recover between the trainings you're never gonna become success on I talk about MMA mixed martial arts you know you have to train every day you have to do same thing sparring grappling wrestling running like Meats back every single day like you cannot like if you fight it you cannot sing and come to inside the cage and win now you have to do same
thing every single day and so many years so many years so many years you know you have to sacrifice everything what you have and a lot of people I know like a lot of athletes they become boring because like they need something new but when you little bit move like from your way you're gonna lose because you have to be on one way all the time every single day and every single day same thing exactly exactly same same thing like guys ask me like oh how you become like good Grappler good top Control Racing conditioning
I was racing every day like one hour non-stop one hour can you imagine with new new new new new opponents one hour and then when you finish you go do some exercise lifting running bikes work with Coach like it's it's you know and between trainings you need to recover what is this recovery a lot of People don't understand what is this recovery a lot of people call it like massage straight you know like you know supplements like for me recovery sleep sleep yeah yeah most important things between trainings like at least two three hours all
my life I was like date time day time I was sleeping like from uh maybe 11 to 1 maybe 12 to 2 maybe two to four you know between trainings you have to say because you train so hard money two hour a night you have to turn two and a half you need rest you have to race you know a lot of people they use like morning they train go work because most of the people they have to make money you know not not every Fighters can like just don't work you know and they have
to they they not focused they're working training it's meant 50 50 no if you want to make money okay go to work but if you wanna sacrifice your life and become the best no you cannot walk you have to race between trainings and night time you have to be fresh on training if I ask you a question in terms of percentage this is a question people are saying in every field actually you know this term nature or nurture so how much of anything that you do is the Person's natural ability versus the training so you
know any sport I'm sure it's the same question how much of it is a person's natural ability versus how much they put into it so if you look at someone like Ronaldo versus Messi Ronaldo's known for his training is phenomenal you know would you say in in this in MMA how much it is because there must be an element that's natural ability you talk about talent and hard workers yeah yeah no most of the talent people they're lazy right most of them I made a lot of talent people but they all like I don't want
to say 100 but 99 they're lazy because Allah give them this and they think okay okay you know it's like but hard working when you don't have talent you have to work so hard when you work so hard and sacrifice your time dedicate like sacrifice you become more disciplined yeah because he knows like like I know a lot of people athletes they don't trend like maybe six months maybe one year they come to the gym with same weight and they need like maybe one month to become shape I meet like these people and but a
lot of people if they finish training one year maybe they never come back you know There is like everybody have different body different like Allah some people give like some people have like they're very strong some people like they're very smart but no muscles you know yeah everybody is different you know but most of them Talent people my opinions they lazy okay but like this you know like from we see so many warriors coming from Pakistan like they're very strong there's some genetics because like I'm here I'm very slim you know I'm looking at YouTube
big guys I'm here in the middle um I think genetic I think genetic I think mountains I think tough life yeah and I think traditional traditional our Traditions wrestling everybody wrestle you know when I when I was grow up like you know sometimes I go with my father to some people house like like this you know and if I see someone like my age my um uh my size I'm like okay father gonna make me wrestle with me and this is not only my father like everybody Pakistan if like even in Street yeah even in
straight okay let's wrestle go yeah we're gonna watch who's gonna even in the jungle is embarrassing everywhere everywhere you have to like you know racing is like traditional Traditional and I think that's why I think that's why even like Maybe one week ago it was uh Mustafa that is Stanley okay his name he from Turkey he was 92 years old he died like passed away one week ago he was 92 years old his grandfather move end of the 19th century his grandfather moved to Dagestan to Turkey and his and he have some some you know
like Mustafa ball and he became wrestler and he become I think three-time world champion a two-time Olympic champion he never lose he was from that he was from he was wrestling in Turkey but he's he's originally from Pakistan you know okay like everywhere it doesn't matter even if you move I know a lot of people from Dagestan they living in UK they're living in the UK and they they kids what they do they wrestle they go Jiu Jitsu yeah they do some sport you know this is like our traditional I guess it gives you explosive
energy this is because you're moving up then that was really useful in the ring um but it's interesting because they said that when they did long distance running they found that the people generally who won they were from a specific Valley in either Kenya or Ethiopia so It's so not even the whole country it was a very specific area yeah yeah exactly and I think because of location because Pakistan you guys can search like in map where is Pakistan it was it was so many so many wars it was like gate like even like their
band they they call like like um if you read like uh uh Scholars from 500 1000 years ago was like they call that bubble above it's like gate of the gate gate of the gates you know this is uh this is uh this is Dagestan this is so many wars happened last last 1000 years Non-Stop non-stop or you know people so tough you know and uh this is why I'm where I'm from you know so you know in Pakistan I'm interested because you know I had never heard of Pakistan before now everybody knows about Pakistan
have like lots of people started coming in now so many people so many people come like crazy tourism and last couple years it's like amazing yeah like 10 years ago it was maybe like very less but right now hundred and hundred thousands people like you know like uh even winter time winter time is cold but even winter time a lot of people still coming A lot of people do you Like that everybody's coming in right I'm okay why not because people interesting they want to come they want to feel it what is this like you
know so many people come so many people come from around the world to my gym too you know from Australia from Brazil from us a lot of people come why you guys come I we don't know we just I just wanted it interesting last 10 years I'm following like UFC everything I see a lot of people come from Pakistan why so many people you know and they it's like it's very interesting you know who would you see as a rival region to Pakistan like mashallah there's a number of different Fighters coming through I mentioned Gracie
earlier but South America seems to have gone a little bit quiet in terms of the number of Fighters coming through and martial I guess the caucus history gym by seeing a few others where else do you could you think the next kind of pocket or emergence of Fighters are going to be or who you currently see as um real Rivals to Pakistani most of them they're gonna come from poor countries from poor countries you know because Dagestan is not rich rich Republic In Russia this is like this is I think my opinion most of the
people they live in poor life I think that's why when you live poor life what you need you have motivation you have the way you have to come out you know and you have to be hungry you know okay here in Dubai everybody happy everybody lucky everybody Rich you know everybody have good cappuccino every morning yeah you don't need to do nothing you know and like even in from even from UK you know from UK all fighters they all poor people yeah they're all like Fighters good Fighters they have they come out like even learn
adverts is current UFC Champion right now he's like a Jamaican from like yeah it's like he he like I know he come out from hard life yeah you know it's difficult though I mean even now we're talking about I guess tourism opening to understand it often you see development and kind of advancement even becoming more wealthier it has uh a negative consequence elsewhere I remember look my father my father raised me and my brother in his own so my father alhamdulillah and um I remember there was a certain drive because he used to work very
hard you know off to leave Us on our own while he was working and we'd come back and then that kind of drove me to work and study and so on but now my children because handle I've been working they're not they're very far removed from the experiences I had and as a parent I'm trying to think okay I want to give them but it's hard to get that balance you see the door yeah and same time you love your kids yeah of course yeah same time sometimes love can kill people yeah sometime not all
the time you know sometimes you love your kid you did you give him everything and he grew up like like I don't know like a vegetable yeah it's like you put here you stay here you put here it's like you know you have to you you have to teach him how to live you know I have same problem I have same problem my father you don't have nothing my kids they have everything you know yeah their father is Rich but my father was like very poor like for me to get money like I don't know
where like my father-in-law they can tell me you want money okay dessert do something yeah like my kids they can ask me money okay it's true you know and I try to like balance this kind Of situation too but it's very hard it's very hard like same time you love them and you can give them you know yeah but sometimes I tell like when my kids ask me something I all the time say not everything like you want yeah it's true like but they don't understand they think like but you can give us all something
like you know it's like you have to put this on the brain not to like punish them or some not teach them no it's it's very hard this is like right now like then 20 years ago 25 years ago maybe 30 years ago right now people live in good life it was it was so many poor people like 30 years ago but right now it's like people like even um they can go to supermarket and buy something but before it was no Supermarket even even here in Dubai like my my friend father he said like
he he grew up like here like 30 minutes from Dubai like in Samaria they send them like they send like containers from um from plan you know and they was waiting for this like maybe one month but today he can go two minutes to supermarket and come back even having food out of season sounds crazy yeah you could only have something if it's not a season You can't have it but now everything yeah it was like very big surprise if you see like tomato or cucumber yeah like in uh January you see this question if
you ask someone I guess younger now if they had the choice of the fame or the money would you reckon they would say manual Fame yeah manual Fame I think I think Fame may be more dangerous maybe maybe Fame if you're Fame famous Maybe for me for me it's easy to deal with money even Fame but it was Fame it's very hard it's more hard for me it was difficult with money okay I can lose money and I can sleep a lot of people when they lose money they don't sleep they think about this you
know but but when you film you have to deal with this every single second like in your life you deal with this you cannot go there but money okay if you're not famous and if you have money it's I think it's this is not because like I like money more than Fame no I for me like a lot of people they have the weakness you know for me it's very easy to deal with money but with Fame it's very hard well set this as well you see between mashallah he does the Um influence and you
start to see when you've got one million two million three million subscribers Marshall and so on and I'm sure you've been recognized wherever you go how do you keep that outside of it impacting you and this website when we talk about the younger generation you said mashallah that you know hard work people if you're talented they're lazy my experience as being people who aren't even talented they're lazy now yeah they just you want instant access like you know without the hard work I want to get to that place you know and it was different martial
art for our children and us but I guess even for yourself another few years between us is that we did they we didn't have those types of distractions now you've got the world on your phone in your pocket you know and you suddenly see someone overnight without any real talent suddenly becoming well known and there are success stories like this and we've got to navigate through this you know so to yourself yeah so like you know being somebody on social media like it's there's so many distractions it's like it's it's always you know you got
Instagram Twitter people Always hear like I I struggle like to me for you know separating social media and life is very difficult because it it becomes one thing so it's always a challenge how do you deal with that oh no I have to we have to live with social media without social media it's very hard right now you know okay for kids okay my kids like they stay away from phones like maybe this maybe they still young you know but for me it's very hard to deal where they have to be stay away from social
media you know like I talk about my personal life but for people okay if you wanna follow something like you have to follow the news what's happening like you have to be on social media you know but I don't know it's a very hard question like so you know how and we spend so much time like Instagram maybe one hour a day yeah like at least minimum I spend an Instagram one hour and what's up for sure four or five hours really maybe four hours it's it's so embedded and you have to sleep and you
have to train and you have to drive and you have to spend time with family it's like so many things and you have to do with like your business like and only 24 hour there is like you have to make schedule yeah you need schedule you know every single day I I have my schedule I have even this year this year September October November December every day I know where I'm gonna be like of course Allah know what's gonna happen tomorrow but I have plan I have plan fly these tickets I have everything I'm like
uh I cannot with without this like you know sometimes I fly to my Village I still fly back to Pakistan to go to my Village stage switch off my phone a little bit time maybe three maybe five days one week to come out you know because this is world now World become very small very small everybody knows everybody connected have you Incorporated this into how you're helping Mentor is mentoring the right word or training the other Fighters because you know as you can say your father-in-law he probably didn't have those issues when he's dealing with
you and the other guys but it's a reality now that you do it's part of your kind of uh development for the other Fighters or you kind of just leave them to it as well no I have like people like 20 25 people yeah like I try to control them I mean it's like control I Means like give them good advice good because in our team we don't have like this famous this strong this better this number two this is number five rank we don't have these rules we have like who if you're older small
or like younger guy they at least you know we have these rules yeah and so many years we don't change this if someone don't like okay he can live okay we don't hold no but this is not jail you know we don't like hold like nobody and and the ears have because I know I have this so much experience for them yeah I have this experience energy knowledge I try to share with them give them talk with them like I do this like every single day morning and night even right now here in Cape I
spend more time with them and uh yeah it's like I think more than coach like Mentor because we have a head coach like I try to I try to be like Mentor maybe if we call it like Mentor but I don't like to call my myself like coach because we have Coach I told like Javier right now we have Javier Mendes head coach I told him like even a couple days ago was talking he said I don't like this this I say coach please listen I am assistant you're the Boss don't make me boss I'm
not the boss you boss if you say hey I cannot deal with this okay then I come yeah but I know he said no no like I know you're strong but you have to if you don't like no because you're right like because me and Javier we have very good relationship with all my guys he have amazing religion but not like with me because I am with him like almost 11 years and that's why he tried to talk from me but I said no no you go straight yes every day we're in gym if you
don't like summer yes and someone have to say someone had to get up you know like if you don't like something you have to tell I am here to support you you know and uh it's like you know it's it's not easy it's not easy to think because when you have 30 people and they all like some 22 some 30 years and they everybody have different yeah views it's it's become a little bit hard but alhamdulillah we almost everybody like big team we together like all life and we have one view you know we know
why we're doing this for what you know we have the goal you know teamwork is it's teamwork you cannot be like do any of them think they can take you Do you sometimes remind them that uh take what take you down no right now remind them like everybody complain about hey you become you too much lifting you become a little bit big then before you become strong I say this is your problem because everybody cutting weight you know everybody together before it was like almost same weight right now they're cutting weight I become again like
it's a little bit different and they complain about my weight that must be nice but who cares this is their problem personal problem yeah but do you find that you know because you're saying how you your coaches the the coach as well kind of like tries to come through you but then you're like no Do Your Own Thing do you find like a lot of people treat you differently because you are Habib so it's like you know I decided him no he said because because all like almost all team they was with me when I
was nobody when I was just start you know they was with me and now they stay with me we have we respect each other you know we don't kill nobody we don't push nobody we don't make no but like if you don't want okay leave like even yesterday I was talking with them It was it was Saturday and everybody complained about they tired what you want all week he was work hard end of the week if you don't tie it this is good question you have to worry about yourself but this is Saturday your sixth
day you work so hard of course you're gonna Tire it um tomorrow rest and Monday we're gonna be getting one more training if you don't want to go back to Pakistan and stay with your mom she gonna give you every day good breakfast you don't do nothing stay there but if you come here don't complain you want to become best you want to become champion and now you want to say like you tied it who cares you tired or not nobody cared about you even you if you're gonna watch fight you just watch fight they
walk out inside the cage they fight and they live you don't know what happened behind the scenes yeah this is not your business nobody cared about this yeah he was tired he had personal problem family nobody cares you don't know like you just see how he fight and he go yeah and for this one you have to train so hard if you don't want somebody go back go back to Pakistan nobody can ask about yourself without you or with you yeah There is is always going to be Champions with your name this is your choice
you want to put your name there okay work hard no bye bye yeah it's like very simple nothing special nothing special is probably one of the last areas where there's a direct correlation between inshallah your hard work and your effort and achievement you know that actually you really have to have the drive put it in because you can see the difference that it makes when you don't it's um someone who hasn't trained it's going to be obvious someone who doesn't make the way you know um and it is what we call a meritocracy like genuinely
someone who's good and is put in you'll see the difference the one who pushes them that little bit more that last five percent the extra ten percent it'll come through in other fields of work it can be hidden you know if somebody's an accountant it can be the best accountant doesn't necessarily mean he's that much different to the other person but I guess Sports is one of those fields that at the end of the day it's just you and the other person when it's a one-on-one and it all comes down to that moment isn't it
You know whether you if you gave up earlier or you continued fighting pushing struggling and I don't understand what you're talking about my point is this I'm saying this that in other types of work you know I have problem with uh do we have different actions you're a little bit different a little bit different here real UK guy he's really you travel I am I I spend a lot of us yeah because I can say you can tell it's good because like U.S because most of the time like I'm in U.S I can't be UK
like all these people who is this they talk I don't understand nothing any accent or is it the way you like they were even like like I was reading like this different like different English English same same language yeah but it's different accent accents yeah all the time when I was uh fighting like Active Athlete when I have with UK TV interview it's very hard it's easy with any language okay but it's always like this one like what are you doing in London I wanna I wanna catch yeah because because maybe I guess no I
know my English much better than your English UK UK is like a little bit for me I Think it's London London or even I know London and Liverpool is different oh Liverpool is very it's so different I was in Liverpool like in I go to watch much Liverpool Manchester City like there is people talk with me what are you talking about I know English but I don't know what you're talking about yeah they speak English either but it's interesting so so nearby like I'm in Leicester if you look here the Birmingham accent which is one
hour away it's so different so different you might not even understand I was a couple weeks ago in Birmingham London it's it's like you go to a different it's completely different place yeah yeah what's in you you're really into football so what's what's your favorite team oh lit this guy oh sorry we're gonna talk about this okay my point was this sports or any sort of competition like is one of the last Fields where you can push and test yourself okay you know you see like other types of work like if I'm if I'm doing
this or somebody's an accountant or someone's doing computer everywhere everywhere you know sport it's a little bit difficult because you have to push you have to work not with only your brain because in Sportage With body you know and you have to deal with pain painful you know you when pain comes you have to be patient keep going you know it's like it's a little bit difficult because because because physically and mentally you have to work like for example like Finance like economic like technology like okay you just use your brain I know like traveling
everything but this is not same like when you compete with high level athlete and you try to break your face this is different you know you have to use your brain and here and you have to use your body and without brain that in body never gonna win and you have to use both body and brain together and they have to be connection you know and that's why it's a sporty it's like it's it's even our our Sports martial arts is difficult you know yeah like football it's very hard it's very hard but nobody tried
to break your arm leg okay leg you can get like some injury but nobody punch you in one fight like 15 times you know that's why it's it's a difficult sport difficult like personal like me I don't want my kids like doing like emotional Arts maybe they're gonna do some Olympic uh Sports Maybe some Like a gymnastic or like like mixed martial arts like they were just like punching knees elbow face they punch your face honestly I want to my kids stay away but they're gonna they're gonna train for sure but I won't they stay
away a little bit from this part do you think she's you didn't mind anybody's is that what it takes to be a champion having discipline and control over both your mind and body to become a champion like yourself no you need both yeah 100 you know some people went like when they become like for example in my team right now I see Islam is physically and mentally become together because after one month end of the October is going to be 31. 21 is very good age and physically his experience everything now becomes some people they
like for Umar for example I see like he's almost 27. you see physically he become very good but mentally he's still young he need like maybe five years more maybe four five years to experience you know okay and when you become 36 your physique mentally you go maybe higher and physically you go here you know and it's very good time like 30 31 32 when you're physically and mentally you become like like the same you know on The same level there is this mix it's unbreakable you know if you find a way how to connect
yeah so I wanted to ask also have you taking a slightly different path and I'm very conscious now of how I'm speaking because you said that the English accent yeah thank you thank you I I feel now yeah good now you become California guys so um the the intensity and I guess your whole life being second ventricle being involved in MMA and now alhamdulillah after that you're now more involved in business Etc have you had to change your mindset in any way or are you kind of just using the same approach no it's a little
bit hard for me because on finance I am not very good on finance and when I move to business business World there is so many ways where you can make haramani yeah because there is like uh even you make money Where Are You Gonna Keep this this is this is a hard question you know and like I'm Muslim and I try to stay away from riba and Reba one of the biggest sin Allah mentioned in Quran I'm Muslim you know and I try to stay away from this and for me it's very hard where I
keep my money I make some deal make contract or make some business money come What you gonna do I try I I invest but most of the people like Muslim I talk about Muslim people they they keep this money in uh like like from Haram way and and they don't even understand they don't even understand you know even me like some my money is like in a U.S bank account you know honestly I'm gonna be lucky I'm gonna be happy to keep this in a Halal way you know I know they use my money they
know when you have like one million dollar in your bank account what they do they use they use this money and uh and they use this like for percentage like whatever but I don't have alternative like where I'm gonna keep this money I cannot keep them like in my pocket you know and and uh I want a little bit rush and talk about wash it when what had come to me like what had people they come to me we meet like almost one and a half years ago we made we sit we talk and they
told me they plan I really like this I really love this because we have same view we have same uh the same Mission you know and uh it's very important to like me for example person or like platform like Warhead or other people create some platform where it's gonna Be away from River because riba is like one of the biggest sin and people underestimate this Reba can kill not couple people they kill all like cities countries you know and that's why it's like I join with Warhead because they offer and they show me their project
they told me what they want I'm like okay why not I'm always okay for example I have seven years contact with Reebok for example yeah why I cannot work with Whitehead same thing I can be ambassador of ahead because we have same view we have same Mission you know and even like um I know a lot of people a lot of people understand me this a lot of people okay I don't do this don't do this but if you go deep Islamic Finance you're gonna find a lot of crazy things like what people doing with
your money you know 100 maybe you're absolutely right on that and this has been a big part of our mission it's just to educate people because they don't know what they don't know and the moment they realized because you lost ask a Muslim drink alcohol or eat pork they'll say no no no stop for like never but what about the same thing yes same thing maybe worse it may be worse yeah same thing most of them like they like almost In same level like killing people yeah yeah Allah mentioned this like almost like same level
like you kill people don't kill people this is not good don't worry about this is not good same thing almost one of the I mean like seven or ten since he mentioned in Quran like biggest this is like one of the biggest you know it's the only one in which Allah says him and the prophet saws yes on the day of judgment you'll be asked to choose your weapon imagine this to fight Allah and these messenger it's crazy it's it's you know and the thing is I think because most people can't see the impact of
it we don't think of it but that's because to be honest we in the west are generally the beneficiaries and what I mean by that is you see it's something that when it's on a state level like you said perfectly City level country level state level it destroys countries they can't you know imagine someone who's drowning and you're giving them a hand but instead of pulling them up you're pushing them back in the water that's what rebar does even if they're productive they make enough money they can't because of the debt they're under and That's
why everybody is completely you know at ease and that was our mission with Whitehead is to try and provide the alternative away from that allows people to grow their money in a way that's real economy real service not used for Lending um and on that alhamdul we've just launched something called White X which is our effectively um private Equity support for startups and businesses I know mashallah you've invested a number of different businesses but alhamdulillah you've got a profile that allows you to perhaps speak to people or your name has a value for most people
imagine like someone else a random person didn't understand Pakistan or Malaysia Indonesia they've got a brilliant idea and and but they just don't have access to money no no access I know a lot of people like big businessmen uh like uh when they realize what is this riba like and they have like big contrast they offer like big Banks yeah they want to invest and when they understand this is riba they say no they say no no only one percent no half person no same thing half percent or fifty percent no is no Reba is
Reba you know and that's why and it's a little bit sad To understand there is not too many invest companies like who can help billions Muslim people who want to stay away from River you know I know that in even in Pakistan where I'm from a lot of people they won't use Halal invest money you know they have good projects they have good business projects you know like but there is not where they're gonna take inshallah why this is the plan for this to really try and see to support innovation in a good way and
I know um Eagle FC tell us about this thing you know because this is a big project yeah it's like my big project you know I use this platform to give young opportunity from Iran around the world not not only like Dagestan Fighters like around the world give them like opportunity to fight there and you know give them good way you know this year like end of the day this year like uh November December October we have like threshold and this is gonna be very big year for iglesi you know in the day we're gonna
make we're gonna sit with all team and we're gonna make like end of the December Pro Plan to how we're gonna move to next year inshallah and why is it called Eagle FC Oh because it was it was my nickname in USA you know Eagle that's why before us after the jump I think before right before because my my my name was like my nickname was I try to give like uh when I just signed with website I thought like the eagle of Dagestan I tried to give the but yusu told me at that time
it was end of the 2011 and they say you have Habib the eagle of dagisan or magamero is like too big yeah too big please make short just Eagle okay it was no ego yeah and I would say okay let's go I hope you noticed the eagle that we play the special legal there but it's you know it's I just wanted to point touched on the point that it's so interesting that you know about the conversation about rebar it's so normalized especially in the west because it's just everywhere and people get desensitized to that and
they're like oh it's everybody's doing it it's fine and um that's you know with this podcast as well it's something that you know we're hoping to educate a lot of people as well that look revise Ruba and you know it's it's great to hear that you also against it and that's how it should be and you know when Omar when you reach out to Me as well and for a long longest time I was looking it's like where do I put my money where do I invest my money and having somewhere that's Halal and that's
easily accessible is something that's a really really powerful alhamdulillah yeah I think it was actually a few things that he touched upon earlier as well maybe speaking is about you know when you do something you do it properly you you become productive this is another way of looking at it and actually you know the factors of of growth are either you know Enterprise someone who's a business-minded it's money or it's land generally you know and what we want to do is have that approach where actually be productive make your money productive and you should be
productive as well this thing that is I think it's one of like the worst things where a person has the ability to do something but they don't do it even um the The Lazy believer you know I despise the time when you see the believer is lazy and the one who's involved in evil is active and very active exactly and then our money is the same if we don't use it for good the reality is it's going to be used for bad yes You know and so I guess this is really good one key message
definitely is I think we can take from this discussion is is about hard work it's about if you want to achieve something is you've got to put in the hours but also I think is interesting you're saying when you spoke about the in intellect and the physical is actually and this is a chronic messages of actually be intelligent about it we now I think we're in a space globally where mashallah we have lots of talent we have opportunity as well and we need to kind of join them up yeah I think in future inshallah any
time time you know you cannot build nothing with couple years it takes even even trees you put they need like five six years to give us Apple you know you know it's like it's not this of course and like now that you know you've got Eagle FC you've got lots of different projects happening so now that you're not competing because you're not there fighting how is that for you is that like do you miss do you miss competition honestly no no when I miss something like competition I go to the gym and always silver Apple
train you know I spend my energy There you know yeah like come back go to the cage no I don't miss it because all my life it was on my hands not inside my heart it was never was inside my heart no um of course I like it you have to love you what you're doing yes I was like very big fan of sport you know because my goal was like become the best like become the champion you know it's like like everybody have to do you know but when Finnish finish and I I really
I you know it's like release you know release this paper release it's it's it's easy it's very easy but if you inside your heart you know to leave this alone it's very hard it was inside my heart okay bro finish I go do my other things do you know there's a lot of people obviously ask like you know what would there be anything that would bring you back like say for example GSP fight never with your mother's blessing she's like you can do it no nothing no no I I live in this sport alone without
myself yeah that is it's gonna be always some Champions without my name too don't worry it can be Charles Oliveira it can be Islam or other name after Islam because Islam not gonna be there All his life short time couple years finish you know this is Sport this is high level sport yeah I was Champion right now I'm not champion and this is normal yeah you never can be a champion all like seven years eight years there is like couple years this is your Prime Time finish bye-bye other you can stay just for make money
but you're never gonna be champion when was your Peak then do you think you look back I think like from 2000 17 to 2001 it was my pick I think maybe since 18 maybe 18 to like three years maybe three four years okay like it was I think like when I watch back in the days like it was like 18 to 21 it's good it was like I feel power like like a truck you know like beer you know yes like like Eagle maybe yeah and you're busy right now I become like elephant still feel
powerful but no not like before good I'm good thank you guys thank you I think it was thank you amazing this case what do you think yeah I think it's really good it's nice to you just just to chat like nothing too formal yeah just get to know you a little bit better I did want to do a little quick fire round if you Don't mind like just very quick questions okay so I'll give you two options okay and you have to pick one or the other okay you're ready for it let's go okay is
it the stretches are happening it's not that type of quick fire yeah okay yes um okay so let's see where the um okay okay so firstly to your coffee Android or Apple you see one okay La Liga or Premier League Premier League English right yes thank you yeah of course it's best okay nothing close all right before chicken chicken okay Burger steak s okay who's riding archery archery archery no no horse ride horse riding okay Dubai or San Jose it's from from November to march in Dubai from March to yeah October Donna uh gspo DC
thank you Like friend fights just I don't know GSP GSP yeah sorry sorry okay they say but yes like brother friend yeah who's gonna take care of your break of course this PC because people gonna look like him like oh this guy like school teacher you know yeah but he's yeah he's like double jump yeah but if people are gonna say sample they're gonna okay this guy is like he's UFC UFC fighter I I have to be careful you know you can bring with you this year and they're gonna think okay this guy's cool teacher
you know underestimate him you know yeah this is good Imam Shamil or Umar mukhtar remember from Africa right Libya Libya both maybe but it's not good to choose one who put this question in here I need to check I didn't put that question both was the right answer good good answer best finisher submission or knockout submission submission because because knockout it's not good too it's not good people to like you know damage their brain yeah but better between submission of Choke choke is better choke is better yeah give him some sleep rest come back like
if a submission can hurt your arms you're helping them yeah yeah so so like They're so good to see that you're still looking after the other Fighters and that's that's amazing that you know some people out there I want to kill this person I want to go and hurt them but you're like that's that's true sportsmanship that you are you're going in there to do a job but some athletes they deserve get smashed you know they deserve yeah you have to but not most of them most of them okay this is competition yeah you just
wanna like make who who's the best and that's it this is only competition not nothing personal nothing personal nothing personal Habib it's uh been amazing it's um you know they say that you know don't meet your Heroes because you might be disappointed but alhamdulillah it's actually been really good to meet you me and talk to you and it's really been inspiring um for me especially so alhamdulillah good to hear from the different aspects all the best for the camp and thank you for the team yes thank you so much thank you