When Mumble Rappers GET HUMBLED By REAL GANGSTERS

Uh, eight, two, born music. We what you call a mumble rapper. Just Yeah.

So you say yeah to everything and make it wrong. It no matter what it is. And for real, you can say anything.

I just went to the store. Yeah. For the little Yeah.

Hey, went back to the store. Yeah. You feel me?

It's just is lit. That's all. It's all about being lit.

Yeah. So, it's always going to be something new. When when a person decides to be themselves, they offer something no one else can be.

Yeah. Cuz once you be you, who who could be you but you, right? Right now, everybody trying to rap the same style with the uh I don't know who created if it was Future Amigos, but all the sound the same go I said, [ __ ] had me in the studio one night trying to do that [ __ ] I'm like, man, cut this [ __ ] off.

You know what happens when a new age rapper tries to talk crazy to an OG? They get a reality check they won't soon forget. From 50 letting the goofy rapper know he ain't ever going to make it to Eminem dissing a whole generation on one track.

These guys ain't playing. A good place to start off is with hip hop's petty king 50 Cent. He was on a different type of timing though when he encountered Trav.

Trav was a former Gun soldier. He was part of 50's entourage ever since he was a kid. Just like Joffy Top Tiger, he comes from American Towers in Southside Jamaica, Queens, a neighborhood that was really on that gang.

Trab's brother was also a loyal G unit soldier, but neither of them are cool with Fif now. And that became abundantly clear when Meek Mill invited Tra and 50 on the same stage. After a short back and forth for a little bit, your boy 50 put a little hands on Trav, shoving him a little bit.

All right. All right. Listen.

Hold on. Stop the music. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hey, listen. 50 didn't want Trap on stage and tried to send him away.

Meek even had to step in to break up the dispute. According to Tra, the issue started long before that day. They'd been arguing for a while at that point, and things sort of spilled over when 50 asked one of his people to call Trav over.

Tra felt disrespected and told him he ain't going for it. When me and 50 had words, he had certain people reach out to me. When they reached out to me, I didn't respect it because a [ __ ] reached out from from 450 telling me to come come meet him.

I'm like, I ain't never had to speak to none of you [ __ ] a day in my life to to have to go speak to 50 for 50 to say come see me. Like, nah, 50 want me to come see. See, I'm telling them to call me.

Ever since then, 50 and Tra never made up, and Trav would even go crazy on IG live years later, exposing a bunch of activities that made him look bad more than it did 50. The fact is, when they came face to face on the stage, 50 was the one who stood on business. But from a dude 50 knew really well to a no-name rapper looking to make a name for himself.

50 also checked this goofy dude who ran into 50 on the street and tried to get him to listen to his music and sign him. You going to hear me? You going to hear me?

Cuz I'm telling you I got talent. That's how you feel. That's [ __ ] up.

But look behind you at least. That's some [ __ ] [ __ ] my [ __ ] That's some [ __ ] [ __ ] my [ __ ] You can hit me. I can fight.

I don't care, man. No, [ __ ] the camera. I don't care about the camera.

You play on camera. I don't care about you. I want you to hear my [ __ ] He just wanted you to just see his He just wanted you to see his Instagram, man.

I believe my [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? I put money by myself. Are you crazy though?

I am crazy. I'm crazy about my talent, my [ __ ] Just tell me. It's not going to work.

That's why it's going to work. Tell your This [ __ ] is not going to work. It's going to work.

You told us it's not going to work. Why not tell? Cuz you still the way you're approaching it is wrong.

How? First, you want a CD or album? Nah.

What the [ __ ] are you going? There's nothing to play right now. There's nothing you can show me right now that's going to help you.

My IG saying like, "Yo, this is it. " Look at my IG is going to help you right now. Excuse me, man.

Your You can tell 50 Cent was one step away from tapping dude's jaw. And you can see why. 50 was out on the date trying to enjoy his evening.

And this crazy dude wants to make a name for himself by getting him to look at his IG. 50 wasn't even too mad about it. He just told him that his approach was wrong.

But after this, the guy tried to capitalize on his 2 minutes of fame by making another video calling 50 out. Yo, 50, let me tell you something, man. I don't give a [ __ ] how big you think you are, my [ __ ] Like, you feel me?

Size on me [ __ ] you feel me? I'm from Irvington, New Jersey, my [ __ ] Like, you feel me? Like, yeah, I grew up listen to your music.

I salute you. You feel me? But when I approached you, I was like, "Yo, I want you to look at my Instagram.

" That was it. But you was getting gangster, my [ __ ] Like, that [ __ ] don't fly over here. That strategy of trying to get an OG to listen to your music by forcing it on them has never worked.

And further proof of that is when this dude tried to freestyle for Gucci Mane at Hot 107. 9 while he was trying to promote his album. Gucci didn't want none of that, though.

forgot who I was. [ __ ] forgot what I done. I'm the one who started the beef when I got boy as for fun.

I ain't taking no more when it was upway. I ain't talking about money. Can't [ __ ] with cut.

They a dog. Who the hell that young script if you ain't know then? At least he actually came out with material which is better than that little goofball that tried to press 50 on the street.

And if nothing else, at least he had the confidence to step up to Gucci Mane and the good sense to stop when he was asked. Not all new age rappers know how to stop when things start to get a little out of hand. Take Olar for example.

The Atlanta rapper was about to blow up while being mentored by Gucci Mane without officially being signed to Gucci's label. Gucci and Runt were dropping music together and was getting pretty close. So much so that they hopped into a IG live together and played some demos.

Things unfortunately got a little out of hand when RT started pressing Gucci about a song that they didn't finish. Gucci wasn't having none of it and he quickly checked Runt for trying to micromanage his life. Oh, like we act like you can't listen.

But now it's the music. But you ready to do the music though? They tell you anything else you talking about.

You tried me earl like that. After this, Gucci cut all ties with Runt and he was no longer getting the exposure he got from being with Gucci anymore. Even though when the OG seems chill and is joking around with you on the IG live doesn't mean you can impress him.

Another legendary rapper who's called out mumble rappers is Snoop Dog. In an interview alongside 50 in 2014, he stressed the importance of a rapper sticking to his identity and not just hopping on trends while they're hot. He then proceeded to do this funny impersonation of how mumble rap music sounds like.

Yeah. So, it's always going to be something new. When when a person decides to be themselves, they're off for something no one else can be.

Yeah. Cuz once you be you, who who can be you but you, right? That's what's wrong right now.

Everybody trying to rap the same style with the uh I don't know who created it if it was Future Amigos, but all them [ __ ] sound the same. Go. I said [ __ ] had me in the studio one night trying to do that [ __ ] I'm like, man, cut this [ __ ] off.

Am I in here doing [ __ ] I don't rap like that. He said, "What the [ __ ] you got me doing? This [ __ ] is addictive.

This [ __ ] get you. You hear that [ __ ] every Yo, funny as it is, Snoop got a legit point and it still holds true over a decade later. In an interview with Stephen A.

Smith, Snoop Dogg and Dr Dr explain it further. Dr says the key to it all is finding your collaborator. That one producer or creative that a rapper could really grow with and understand.

I don't I don't like the fact that there's like nine different producers on one album. I like the idea of one producer on one album. The continuity, the continuity is everything.

Yeah. Where did that come from? Where did it come from where you got cast that want to be with nine different producers on one album and stuff like that?

When the hell did that start? I don't know. I don't know.

But it's I don't like it. You know, if you're if you're a producer, you should be able to produce the entire album. That's what I thought it was supposed to be.

That's what I was doing at the beginning. There's a lot of beat makers though, doc. That's what the difference between your era and this era is that there aren't too many producers as much as there are beat makers.

It's so easy to make beats. They giving you all these computer packets that has the drum loop, has this, has y'all had to make the loop. I feel like it's a change that's happening right now, you know, from all this mumble rap thing and everything that's happening right now.

There's somebody in somebody's garage that's happening right now. That's gonna be the next Snoop or Dr or next Prince or Michael Jackson or whatever that's coming up with something that's going to change the game. It's got to happen right now and it's wide open because everything that's happening right now in the music game is is for especially hip-hop.

And we know that Dr is spitting serious truth about the producer doing whole albums because that's the same issue that caused him to leave Death Row back in the mid90s. Dr Dr was a slow, methodical worker who started Death Row Records with Suge Knight because he wanted total control over the production of the music. The first few albums released by Death Row saw that quality over quantity play model as they made some legendary records.

Now, the Chronic and Doggy Style quickly comes to mind. But as time went on, allegedly wanted at least 10 albums released per year. So he started recruiting other producers to work on the project because he thought that Dr Dr was working too slow.

This would eventually be one of the catalyst pushing Dr out the door which eventually begin to lead to the collapse of Death Row. Moving back to the Steven A. Smith interview back in October of 2024.

Snoop indirectly calls out the internet age rappers saying that they sometime go viral and ride the trends instead of relying on their own creativity. Like you had to have skill, you had to have professionalism in order to be an artist. Now you just have to have a phone.

So it's a big difference when you had to have certain things to be qualified as an artist. Now it's just a phone makes you an artist and something stupid or something crazy on the internet gets you 5 minutes of fame and you take that and make a record and you got a two and a half minute song that's saying the same thing that somebody else just said. Now you considered hot as opposed to it used to be about creativity and understanding of musicianship, you know, harmony melodies that don't even matter no more.

It's just autotune. I want to sound like him. I want to say what she said, but I want to, you know, do the same things but just in my own way as opposed to let me be original.

When you think about it, it's the perfect way to describe artists like the Island Boys and Ice Spice who got popular off the internet and got a rap career out of it. But while that may be an indirect call out, Snoop was much more direct when he and Kevin Hart reacted to a viral video by the brothers. Social media is an amazing tool to help you promote your talent.

Roll a clip. Cuz I'm a island boy and I've been trying to make Oh, I'm a island boy. I'm speechless.

Two goofballs in the pool. You know why I'm not speechless? Why?

Because I'm an island. For those who aren't aware, the Island Boys are a rap group who are much better known in the streaming world than they are in the rap game. When Snoop and Kevin Hart roasted them, they tried to act tough and threatened Snoop.

Kevin Hart and So you think Snoop's a [ __ ] I I Bro, have you seen his weight? Have you seen how he is? He smokes weed all day.

I just don't think he does much fighter. I don't look I don't find him intimidating. Here's here's the thing.

Do I think Do I think he's been around gangsters? Of course. Yeah, I think he's been around gangsters.

Do I think he's a gangster? [ __ ] no. I don't think he's a gangster.

I think if I was in the same room as him, I think you'd have a hard time. So, you think you could smack the [ __ ] out of him? I smacked the [ __ ] out easily.

Snoop, of course, didn't respond to the threat seriously and just continue to laugh. It was clearly several levels below him. The Island Boys did eventually fold when a bunch of their quote unquote fans called them out for disrespecting Snoop.

Hey, my fault. I didn't mean to be mean to Snoop Dogg. all of the Snoop Dogs.

You know, it's just he's an inspiration. You know, he kind of put me down with the way he was talking about me. So, you know, at the end of day, I am a human being and I feel like he tried me.

But I But believe it or not, the Island Boys isn't even the modernday rapper who said the most disrespectful thing about an OG before. Lzanne once rated Tupac a two out of 10 and called him and his music boring. Uh, eight [Music] two boring music.

As you can probably predict, this enraged everyone on and off the internet. Celebrities and fans alike wanted to throw him out the window for that take. One of the very last things that is tolerated by hip hop fans is any Tupac slander.

Lzanne received a lot of hate over his awful take. Fans trolling him, vandalizing his car, assaulting him, and even threatening his life. Since then, Li Xan claims that back then when he said it, it was a dark time in his life when he was constantly on drugs and zoned out.

There was the Tupac uh incident. Something that you said Tupac was boring. Yeah, but that was back when I was barred out and they would wake me up at 5:00 a.

m. and I was cranky uh to go to the iHeart Radios, you know, and I raided and and I don't feel this way anymore. or Tupac is a legend.

But I I wanted to get the interview over with. The interviewer was annoying and she just kept speeding us and she's like, "What do you feel about Tupac? " And I was like, "Two out of 10.

" And that was like such a big catalyst of hate. Now look, it's not a crime to not like Tupac. But this respect kind of signal that a lot of what Snoop and Dr Dr said earlier is kind of true.

Now, these younger generations blow up on rap music based off of internet fame and they don't bother studying the rap music that made the industry as big as it is today. Yo, they simply are just not fans of the music. Which is why Eminem went full f them kids mode when he released his song the ringer off his kamicazis album in 2018.

He bit almost every last one of the mumble rappers. Yo, check out that joint. But first going after Yachty.

Get this [ __ ] audio out my audio audio. I can see why people like Little Yachty but not me. Then he fires off at a bunch of them in the most catchiest section of the song.

So finger bang chicken wang low punk little imitate little Wayne I should aim at everybody in the game pick a name and you can understand why Eminem would want to put everyone on blast cuz for a moment in the late 2010s it felt like everybody had embraced the laziness of being the mumble rapper we what you call a mumble rapper just yeah so you say yeah to everything and make it wrong it no matter what it is for real you can say Bro, I just went to the store. Yeah, for the little Yeah. Hey, went back to the store.

Yeah, you feel me? This is lit. That's all.

It's all about being lit. I mean, you got to give him props for his honesty. And these new guys always make a mistake when they talk crazy about or disrespect the OG's.

Those guys made timeless music while being on some real gangster [ __ ] and trying to take rap music to the next level. But the real fans, oh, we ain't never forgetting. So tell me what you think about this story.

Put a comment down there. And that's all I have for you today. Peace and blessings.