Helen Hadsell The Complete Interviews

[Music] for [Music] l so can you tell us about how you got started with contesting yes uhuh uh Norman Vincent Peele had the book called The Power of Positive Thinking and I had picked it up read it and there were two things that really en enticed me to research further and that was when he Said you can have anything you want provided you I know what it is see yourself as already having it and those were three things that intrigued me and uh I was you know just a little happy Homemaker no education high school

education period and the mother of three and sitting home and needing a lot of little creature Comfort things you know and so I thought well oh that sounds exciting so that night uh my husband got in and I said I read this book and I Says what would you like and he was reading the Dallas Morning News and uh he said well look here cocacola has a contest and uh you can win an outboard motor all you have to do is write 25 words while you take Coca-Cola on outings and I said and I then

outboard motor and then he went on and finished reading his paper well I went into the bedroom and he's W an outboard motor so I sit there and I thought cocacola on AED and I thought I don't we don't even Drink Cokes that's going to be a tough one but I saw him sitting in a boat with his motor enjoying himself and so I wrote uh oh he liked to go fishing by himself on weekends cuz he had a very serious job and he was always stretched out and the kids were too young to take

him fishing at that point and so he'd go out for the afternoon okay so now I'm sitting there and I see him in this boat and I write I'm a lone wolf fisherman HS are my Silent Partners they contribute no Yaky Yak only enjoyment when called upon 25 words put it in an envelope mailed it off and actually said to him I wonder how long it's going to take him to let us know we want now that's positive thinking I didn't know any better I just knew uh he's got I wrote that right that incident

he's got to win it two weeks later the representative from Coca-Cola called and said uh Mr hadsel you won your outboard Motor I thought oh that's nice now what would we like to win see now what would we like to win and my daughter said well I'd like a swim bicycle and I said and you want what color you know I thought well everybody should do this because uh selected you know uh here it is see yourself as having it so we had her sitting on a bicycle and it was uh now at that point

in time there were many many opportunities for contests and most of Them see a contest is when you have to complete something in 25 words or less name something write an essay a sweep stake is when they just put your name in the pot and they draw from 1 million entries they draw your name uh I didn't think of that as competition I always thought the only competition you ever have is with yourself and that's when you doubt yourself so now my daughter uh we had to name a pomy and it got to be now

this Was a fun thing and my son I mean we didn't look for big things roller skates you know uh bicycles and uh things that were that children wanted um boom boxes you know for music and stuff and so we started uh he we s would sit at night and I says oh we're going to get Pamela her B her bicycle and we have to name a pony how are we going to name a pony and uh I show him a picture of a pony and uh they said well He's brown and I said yeah

he's brown and what else and uh what else does he do well I I said does he prance well then we call him prance Charming prance charming and you get on a pony what else he bucks he Buck too prance charming and these were what we call coined words and that's what we send in I don't know which entry won but she had her swim bicycle okay so with then we got all the little stuff now I want lenium for the Floor and I get lenium then I want something else and I get it now

I'm thinking bigger now I want to win trips and my son my younger son said oh let's go to a dude ranch do you know we won this trip to a dude ranch and stupid me uh this was in Arizona and that's when I was afraid of flying and uh they I won the prize they're going to fly and I said I don't fly can you drive down and then I was I Was I didn't get the prize because you had to follow their rules and so that he was very very ticked about that you

have to learn to fly you have to learn now the next thing I wanted the children wanted to go to Disneyland and that meant flying too and I thought well I'll just Brave it out really and truly I was stupid on that area but at that time I didn't know better and so we get to U one this trip to Disneyland we all get There and it was a fabulous fabulous trip and later on uh we did win a trip to dud Ranch and I did go to we did go to the dud Ranch and

then we went a trip to the World's Fair did go to the World's Fair and one thing that was real funny I was going to be 40 years old and I had read that Paris is a city of light love and excitement and I wanted to be on the 1 of January I said what are we going to do this year and pad I said I want to be In Paris France sitting at a sidewalk Cafe drinking wine on my 40th birthday and I started to enter contests only contests that were offering trips and there

were many of them there was a lot of trips always in contest always 25 words or less and I always used the same 25 words I said I'm a poop couple with three kiddos and I'd like to go to Paris friends to recapture the Rapture of Springtime ecstasy in my thank 40 Frustrated years that's the only thing I wrote well the first time uh one company uh investigates before you win a big prize you're investigated they call you or they come out interview you and they do that to find out if you are anywh way

related to the sponsors any way related because contesting are really on the up and up and if they wouldn't be I mean it wouldn't serve any purpose so I had the interview and uh everything went fine But I only won third prize which a Hammond electric organ and it didn't win that prize and I said well why did they give give me electric organ and you know somebody said to cultivate patience I have this big electric ham and organ and here it is now my birthday's the 1st of June and here it is April already

and I still haven't had this trip now we're going to have to plan this trip we're going to be there uh drinking wine and my husband even Said well we have enough money we'll I said no I want to win this with a trip well it seemed like the last minute I send that entry off and lo and behold I got a phone call and said Mr hadel I used his name and when I uh in my name uh you won a trip to uh Venice Italy and I thought well I don't want to I've

been to Venice I want to go to Paris and the man said well you can change there first class and you can change uh whatever you want to do And I he said when would you like the tickets I said like right now and he had a messenger come and bring these tickets and we got on the plane and to make a long story short on my 40th birthday I was at that sidewalk with my husband drinking water so we did this this is something else I need to bring up cuz I thought this was

well it it was nice my husband and I are sitting here one afternoon and uh I just got back from a Trip a long trip and uh sometime he went with me and sometime he didn't and he'd go with me first time and then second time he got bored because I was always counseling people and then at night I was in my and he knew everything so but anyway we're sitting here he said let's do something off the let's do something exciting what are you going do I said you know I love love New York

I said and I noticed in the paper that they're having this um uh the best Little h house in Texas and I said I would love to go and see that off Broadway show and he said well I'll tell you what let's uh I'll let's have lunch and I'll start calling uh the the airlines and we'll see what we can do he says sounds like fun doesn't it we're eating lunch and we come back here for coffee and the phone rings uh Mrs hadel I said yes he said I'm rich little you don't know him

but he was producing a show to tell the Truth in New York and he said your name came up as a very very good contestant how would you like to come to New York and be on my show I said I looked at Pat and I thought God is this for real and I said what is it um he said well it's to tell the truth and the show had just started and uh he said um we'll pay all your expenses first class and what else do you want and I said could I have Tickets

to this all Broadway show will Success Ball Rock hun and he said what else and I said well my husband uh wanted to come well okay we'll do a to we'll give your husband a ticket also and what else I mean you know when they want you they want you and he said everything that we advertise you will also get electric blankets mix whatever they were advertising I said when do you want me Uh when do you want he said where you come this week or next week and I said well let's see and my

husband says this week this week so I said how about this week well we'll have your tickets for you by cier uh tomorrow morning so we went to to New York had this hotel saw Broadway play was there three days all they usually pay all expenses and they give you a voucher if you want to cab to go wherever you want To eat wherever you want to and Entertain You really it's nice to be on these talk shows well that's we had our little uh our little thing again so what is it I mean you

know there were many many instances where I would not hear of something uh the thing I'm digressing I'm sorry because you're interested in being a winner and all of you out there are winners you know that and you can have anything you want provided you know What it is see yourself as having it and if there's a delay in results uh don't be disappointed maybe you need to cultivate a little more patience that's all it is and it's yours and you say but the competition is so Fierce so Fierce and I says everything is competition

how long I mean eventually if you stay with something long enough and strong enough it's energy and it's got to come to you that's the Law of Attraction it's out there for anybody I never looked at it is competition I remember uh when after I had the publicity and had won that house and lost cenus and had won all the cars and whatever I needed or wanted uh this was very interesting because that night we went to dance and we're dancing and uh right at the as you came in you signed in and they had

this fish bowl put your name in at the end of the night they had fruit Cakes because it was Christmas time and uh they had this big boom box and my daughter had been wanting this huge boom box that had all these Acoustics and things out and I looked at it and I said oh there's Pamela's Christmas present well the woman that was um uh taking the tickets her overheard me and uh she laughed and she said well Mrs hil's here so really and truly you it's stupid to put your name in the hatel one

the boom box already all right what did I do they were giving me their energy everybody in that room gave me energy cuz they knew now we'd won this house and we're dancing and this man said I guess she's got and Pat said she's got the boom box and we're they're making a joke of it a joke and they don't know that I didn't take their energy they gave it to me and that night when his boss now it's time to take to have the drawing and here's that Fishbowl full of of names and that

the Boss said I'm not going to have anything to do with this somebody come up and draw a name and a woman came up and she said I'll get a different name and and she whisked around and whisked around and pulled a name and it was my name okay this is energy this is energy this is what they do and yes you can get energy from someone else if they're negative I mean why not you mentioned the house can you tell us more about how you won the house yes yes yes I came Back after

my trip and in Dallas we have a group of women that get to together and we called them the contest we called them the range writers and uh when we got there uh we would swap entry blanks we would stand up and say what we won this month we won this and this and this and this one month I won a prize every day 30 prizes one prize every day some of them would win four or five of them and we had a lot of fun and they were very supportive So the night I got

there uh the woman one of the women said oh you want the world's uh you went to uh New York on your way to Paris did you stop at the World's Fair and I said yeah my son won a trip to the World's Fair so he was with us and then after the tri we were at the World's Fair he went back home on plane and uh someone met him and so forth and we went on to Paris and she said while you were there did you see that from Micah house she said that's a

Uh that's an entire United States contest and forah is having a new product that they're sponsoring and they're going to build a house someplace in the United States and all you have to do throughout the United States the builders were you building their houses but they were using this molding that for Mah was very very proud of using so anybody throughout the United States you had to visit one of the homes that had these entry blanks that were using for Micah well in my area it was Garland the only place that was had this thing

and she said well you can I said no I didn't know about it I didn't know about it well it's in Garland and it's closing next week and so on the way home uh driving home because Dallas is a 27 miles from Irving rather all I could think about was God I'd like to win a new house that's per yeah I think I'll win that house so the next day it's drizzling and One of two of my friends that that were in this contest club with me live in Irving so I called one of them

and I said let's go over and see that for Mah house and enter And she said Oh She said said you know they've already picked the entries it's in New York and they've already picked the entries and she said no and the other one was having her rug shampoo she couldn't go and I tried I said I'll even buy you pizza on the way let's go and nobody would go with me Starting to drizzle rain and I something I swear something pulled actually pulled me out the next thing I knew I'm in the car driving

53 miles to go to that verica house and when I got there I sat in one of the chairs and I looked at everything around there and I'm already deciding that I want Spanish Furniture I'm already building the inside of the house and there wasn't Anybody there except the woman that sat you know at the open house I registered my my name and I registered Pat's name and I took an entry blank home and that night I'm reading the entry blank and it said you must have visited the home and I said oh my God

I said I put in Pat's name and Pat my goodness do you know that Saturday morning Pat got up and I said we're getting in the car car you're driving to Garland and you're going to look at that House so when they call you you can say you visited that he did he did he got to work he believed what I said we drove all that way so he could look at that house and that was it it was a done deal now we come home and he draws the plans for the house and he

said tells the kids uh mama's going to win us this big house where do we want it we're out looking for Lots we've got the plan here So when they come we can be ready and then uh that it was a month now the contest closed that weekend it was a month later when uh somebody on the phone called uh Pat and I'm in Dallas and they called Pat and they asked Pat is Mrs Adel there no she's at a meeting uh your husband he said yes he said did she enter that I mean did

she go to that foric home and Pat said oh we were both there I am so impressed with that laminated from Micah We were so impressed and he said the right thing and that was it and he said uh well he said we're just checking uh everybody to see if they actually did go and there's nothing here thank you Mr hadson for your time that was all he said all he oh he asked them are you related uh to anybody at the house number one number two any relations that work for for Mike those were

questions so they had he was on the phone 5 minutes answering all this and he was he Knew that because we knew when we got a big prize we'd have to have an investigation we call it and so um I came home that night and he was EC static well we went our house and all we did was I wonder how long it's going to take them to let us know we one and that's all I told the kids and so it was about another month later morning I woke up and I said uh the

kids were at breakfast the two boys boys were still there and my daughter Was in college and I said U well listen they're going to let us know we won this house for God's sake act surprised and they went off to school and my husband said are you sure they're coming I said yeah and he was I said just stay in bed and I says pretend just uh where we're just going to wait for well at 2:00 and now it's 1:00 and they're and I went to the bakery to get some Bakery and I'm getting

ready to put the coffee pot on when they come and Nothing happens and about 2:30 I get this phone call and they say um uh M Mrs hadel uh when does your husband get off work and I said well he's here now uh oh he they were waiting for him to get off work so they could tell us together I said well he's here on what is and I said he just took the day off well then we're coming right out we're Representatives vice president of formica and our um PR man uh we want to

come out and tell you something very Very interesting for you and I said yeah yeah so and then I of course reminded Pat to act surprised you know they came me in the door I did I acted oh oh my god oh no not me oh no no and I see I told Pat don't show them the plans so we're talking and he said well where do you want it and I said well there's a new area you know just and I said and we have the plans and uh the guy looked at me and

I said well we were planning we Were planning on building a house but we didn't tell them that they were going to pay for it you know and so uh we had all the plans there and he couldn't believe it you know and I said yeah we we we had plans of enlarging this place and that's how it came about and from that period on they hired an interior decorator uh they hired so many people because it was publicity for their for uh they would call me they send me Fly hours uh one weekend he'd

always call and say are you happy are you happy uh because at that time the national inquire which is at rag magazine called and said if there's any negative things cuz this is the first time a house had ever been given if there's any negative things tell us and we'll pay you for the negative and I says get a real and hung up and I had that offer two three times and they were aware that they were looking for negative things and I I There weren't any NE but he call up and say are you

happy is there anything we can do and every time they came they wind us and DED us at the best best hotels and so one day he called and he said what's your favorite place and they were building and he kept coming and visiting bringing me candy flowers and so forth and I said God would I like to go to New York okay we'll put we'll send you to New York and they brought us first class tickets my husband I went to New York and we had there were at that time the play was on

Broadway will'll success spoil Rock Hunter that was the play I wanted to see and they sent me to New York and while I was in New York I did a lot of publicity with uh one of the magazines of the good housekeeping magazine and they interviewed me and so forth and then they had the house open for a month where they could uh people came in and um I was just the hostess and they had People there that took care clean the house and so forth and then it was turned over to us officially gold

keys we had a gold key my husband and I were given a gold key and uh then he asked listen that's a big at that time that period in the four 50s 60s rather uh income tax was a big challenge if you want to lump some and you had to pay it right away and he said if income tax is a problem we'll take care of it you know I mean they couldn't do enough they Couldn't do enough that was a [Music] fabulous well the immediate family my children uh were now growing up and uh

my son wanted a Corvette which he got on his incidentally got on his own uh but one thing that U I had never well it was like I said uh when I before I won the house we lived in a a very comfortable place and I continually wanted to redecorate like I wanted to stove and I Projected for a stove and all of a sudden uh the contest was over with and I won ,000 I didn't win $1,000 I didn't win the store and I went to the contest club and everybody had won in this

particular contest and I had such good entries and I couldn't understand why I didn't win my stove and so I I thought everybody won televisions and every everything and I was perplexed on this but two days later I went $1,000 in another contest and so I rationalized and I told the children well this is for my stove I have $1,000 I thought it was coming by a stove and this is my prize I went out and bought a stove at Sears 3 days later I have a phone call from this uh a general electric and

said uh we overlooked um telling you Mrs hadel the prize and it it'll come in the mail and it think you want a stove a g stove and I said oh I already bought one and uh he said well if youd bought a g We would have given you your money back but see I got premature and already so this was something I learned uh later on uh always I mean there can be a delay in results and yes I taught the children uh they were on their own and did their own coloring and they

had their own projects and we were all very very supportive of that later on uh there were always people that would call or come and that's when I was prompted to write the book I wrote the book simply Because there was a demand for it and I thought well maybe they'll leave me alone I'm not a witch and on the book I put wishcraft in order to uh tell them that I was not using anything but you still had people that would call and say Hey you already want only1 three Hammond organs this is a

church and uh can you do donate one yes I donated them all to different areas there were things that I mean you know I didn't put in my book What kind of contest did your children enter and how young were they when they started uh my younger son um the one uh this is my teenager he was a teenager and he's getting ready to go to college and there were lots of things that he wanted and this contest sponsored for teenagers write in up 50 words or less uh this was another one my older son

50 words or less uh why you would like to represent the United States in Europe and he wrote the most fabulous essay it was really really it was very touching and very good and he won his trip to Europe toured Europe the other son was a little more uh materialistic and and uh this was an opportunity uh and he was just getting out going to high school now uh this was an opportunity to go to New York and to you had to design a piece of jewelry and you had to be a teenager 12 to

14 uh the prize would be Uh this um diamond ring a trip to New York uh you would go to this U fabulous place Place uh I'm not interested in names of uh people uh you know houses that uh have um clothing manufactured I don't even REM recall the name but he did and where you would pick out your wardrobe he could pick out his wardrobe he would get a Lindy star safire he'd get a gold wristatch three days and I think it was $2,000 in Cash Plus the mother could Come with him okay he

wanted that okay so he goes out I said what are you going to do he said well uh the first thing you think of as a kid and everybody then was having a guitar and imitating all these country westerns and he says the first thing they do they did they think of a qar and they' you know um make it as a guitar and I said well what's other thing he said well and he thought and he thought he says I think I've got it and he he just picked up a piece of U Sheet

music and there's a sta there and there's notes and so he went out into the garage and uh got the little wire made the bend the wire uh the kind of wire that you use for soldering stuff and made a staff and then he took two of my beans and sprayed them and he called it the Lindy star go go and that was advertising Lindy star saf fires and it was so damn original who could possibly think of that and then he did a step Further further he said uh he made it he actually made

it and I said well while you made it I said why did you send it to him with your entry you know seeing something this he got a little bo box and mounts this thing in and it was lovely really and put it and send it in I wonder how long it's going to take him to let us know I want all this stuff so one day it was uh I was sitting there and this morning I woke up and I says they're going to call us today got To be here and he was playing

little league and he needed tennis shoes and he said I've got to get tennis shoes before the game is at 5:00 I said well we'll go as soon as they call us and I was waiting in the mail or call us or in the mail nothing came in the mail and I'm sitting there and he was the one that used to say you don't know everything uh later on he changed it when my husband said but she does know and so from that period on but you don't Know everything you get angry because this is

a teenager and so we're um I said at 4:00 now he has to be at Little League at 5 and I thought well I missed that one how could I miss that one when you have a feeling there's a knowing feeling uh there's a calm feeling and it's not like this you know like when you're waiting to have your name drawn at a someplace it's a different feeling and I had this calm feeling and so we get in the car and he's in the car and The phone rings I had the door open the phone

rings and I said go in there and answer tell them you're Boy tell him you're boy his name is Chris he went in there and the man who am I talking to uh this is Chris hadel he said uh are you a boy or a girl he says I'm all boy and they hung up the phone and that was it that was it what they had done in New York they were giving a prize top prize to one girl and one boy and when they looked at Chris's Name they thought this might be a girl

so we got to find out and when I was able to visit when we went to New York uh the uh the people that judge the judges were there and took us off to dinner because they wanted to meet the two top winners the girl and the boy uh the one girl the one woman that was a judge called me aside and she said we had so much great difficulty deciding on Chris and another boy Michael or whatever we knew Michael was a boy but She said I wanted Chris to win and these guys said

let's give it to Michael cuz he's a boy let's get out of here and she said I will do that in one condition if you call Texas and if Chris is a boy will you give this to Chris and that's what happened one of the one of the judges called and it was Chris and that's how then another time that was you know sometime it's real close another time this younger son said well mother you want all these things but you Never want a car and I said I don't need a car I was driving

to Lincoln I don't need a car but just prove to me that you can win a car and you don't need ever need to prove anything uh when you're taking a Silvera training don't Jose says don't ever prove anything prove it to yourself and so I thought well okay I never want a car let's do this and a local radio station was having a car and there were giv Dodson Away okay all you had to do was get by by the phone and at random they would choose your name and when they would call you

you would have to say my favorite radio station is k l i n that's all you had to do and if you said that then your name would be in a pot and at the end of six weeks they would draw one name a week and at the end of six weeks you were in the pot and then you'd go to the dealership and then you would draw which car you would win so it was a very You had to listen to that radio all day long because you never knew when they were going to

call you you just so you had to stay home and at that time there weren't cell phones and so I was um the first week I listened all week long and they call the name and the man up and of course they would put it over the telephone uh Mr Hammond so and so from from grapine uh what is your favorite radio station he said key life 1190 on the Dial well you're in the drawing now you've want that you knew you w a car when he said that well the second week was in the

second week I'm listening and it was a Friday afternoon and we had rental property and my husband is out there fixing some of the water Plumbing that was leaking and the children were around and so he called me and said he needed one wrench to help with this but he couldn't go to get it because these children are out there and he'd had a Hole and he was concerned about the children get that part and I said no I can't because I'm they're going to call me today I know they're going to call me and

I can't leave the house he said damn it put him on hold I need that part and I'll get that part he was very angry so I got in the car and I have the radio on in the car and I'm uh getting this part and I had to run all over town because this part it was some kind of a wrench finally got it took it out to where he Was working threw it down and ran come W house but on the radio station I'm listening and they said we have the second week with

and during the break we will uh play it for you and I am devastated how could that happen I thought I knew I had that car and I come home and I am so disappointed in sitting there and he he caused that because I know they called me and damn it and I'm angry really few Minutes the r the station I mean telephone rang it's my older son the one that lift and only comes back and brings his dirty laundry and checks his mail and he he called he says mother where were you I said

I was out getting daddy a a part for some of the plumbing he said while you were gone he said the phone rang and uh uh there they ask uh who is uh what is they this said Mrs hadel what is your favorite radio station and uh you had I had tacked up Around the house cuz I thought if my husband calls he's not into this I said when they call and ask what your favorite station is say kif 1190 on your dial is your favorite and he there's the phone in the kitchen and he

looks up and it's said when they call and he ready oh my mother's favorite radio station is Ki 1190 on D and the man says congratulations you just won your mother ad [Music] Dos so Helena youve you're known as the who wins every single competition you take public You've Won some Seven Trips to Europe you've won a house You've Won multiple cars and you've thought your kids to do the same um you've even written a book that has sold some um 3.5 million copies now you claim you're able to do this using a methodology you

developed called spec can you tell us a little bit about the spec system yes spec and everybody should have that on Their in their vocabulary if they're wanting material things spec uh should be a word a password for you if you're wanting phys uh if you're wanting material things spec is selected projected expected collected so let's give you an example uh you're there uh and you're at a showcase and all of a sudden you see this diamond necklace hypothetically this is all Right you're seeing it okay now you are seeing it so you select it

now you project it how are you going to project it you're going to see yourself wearing it you're going to stand in front of the mirror and you're going to and then you're going to be at a social Gathering and people are going to say oh what a wonderful necklace this is uh putting energy into this and now you have already uh selected it you already expected it because it's here and then You you projected it rather you projected it now you want it now you want it so you project it and when you project

it that's when you see things happening and I don't know how it's going to come about is your boyfriend going to buy it for you do you win it does your husband buy it for you do you have a lot of money and you all it comes to you because you've now selected it expect and projected it now you can collect it and it's part of Yours so the system is called spec um let's start with the s in that spec what does that stand for that means spec is selected what is it that you

want is it a car is it jewelry is it a trip what is it so you first of all you project it I first of all you select it you select what you what do you want you select it the next thing you do is you project it what do you do how do you project it you make a little Scenario so you want a car so you see the car you see the color of the car you get in the car you smell the aoer in the car you feel the car so what you're

doing you're projecting it and you just it's just a very very easy technique now what you do after that and you can keep on doing this and sitting in your car now you expect it when is is it coming when will it be here I've been waiting when will it be here and then All of a sudden and it varies every time you make a projection it varies when it comes how does it come about it comes about in different ways mine mostly came by entering contest uh Helena one of the one of the most

fascinating stories I came across in your book was the story of how you attracted an opportunity to not only meet art link letter on a show and and that was a dream of yours but to Actually win a big prize in that show could you tell us that story uh yes yes or how first of all how can you get on it when I when I went I went to wanted to see our link letter we were in in the waiting in line I was was one of the last people in line and so when

the um young guy young man that directed us into the show uh there were just a certain number of people that were invited I mean that's all the room they had when he came up to me he closed the Door he said we have no more room and he gave tickets to the next show that was being taped in the next studio and I told him I said I don't want to go to the next Studio I want to see link l so he clo I'm sorry closed the door all the other people went to

the next studio for taping I didn't I sat right there uh about 10 minutes later he puts his head out the door is he still here I said well I came to see AR link lter and he looked at me and he said well just a Minute he said I'll see if there's a seat available he came out he said there's one seat available and he said but it's up there in the balcony and uh I guess nobody's coming so you can have that seat so he directs me up there okay now I'm sitting there

and uh all of a sudden art link l comes out on the street looks around he said you know we're doing our Christmas show and uh somebody in the audience today is going to win a fabulous Prize and he looks around and looks around says hi to a few people and then he comes up and he walks up he had to walk up three people and then a platform three more people cuz I'm up here and he looks at me and he said do I know you and I said no I've never been here before

and he said you sure I don't know you you no I've never been here before he said got my hand and he said well you're the one that's going to win the the bir Christmas present so I walk on Down there and I'm standing there and all of a sudden they wheel in this huge huge box and I I don't know I mean I think it's a huge television that's what it looked like and so there's or lift up the lid I lift up the lid and out jumps a little miniature uh midgets Santa Claus

with the hat and so forth and he H kisses me and hands me A500 $ lutra Diamond uh wristwatch that was my birthday present from ourland glitter and then art looks At me he says gotcha and then during the break this was very interesting I I then sat on the outskirts there and watched the rest of the show and then after it's over and they have you know the uh commercials and uh the things that roll out and in um all of the things what is it called of the wrapup and we're standing there because

I'm I won this huge friese and AR keeps looking at me and looking at me and said don't I know you I know you don't I and he's just so Insistent and I didn't have the heart to tell him what I'd done so what did I do the night before the night before I'm wanting to be on the art link litter show I sit there in my chair and I say art link litter when you see me you'll know me and I'm going to be on your show art here I am you're I'm going to

be on your show I'm going to wear an orange sweater now I asked did the orange sweater attract him I don't know why did He walk up all those steps and get me from the entire Audi audience I just attribute it too as a projection this is projection so I had my Christmas present all in one uh now these things you can do and it gets to be fun and you'll say we're pushing Minds around or you're the work of the devil not so believe me when you do this they have the opportunity to accept

or reject the idea you always have free will and in This area I look familiar to him because I was there projecting him and the orange sweater was my I said when you see when you see me I'll be on your show now in the book Helena you also mentioned how you were able to teach um some other people in line for the show to also use their their their mind to win okay after the artlink letter show uh when they tape in Hollywood they tape in different Studios and they had lots of shows there

That were giving prizes I mean they had I don't even remember the titles or the names of them so I got into the next show and what they were doing at random picking people from the audience and asking questions and then some way a dial went off or whatever and the dial spun and then you could get win that prize when I got into that studio all I could think about was I had talked to my mother earlier on the phone and she said uh I said what would you like for Christmas and she said

I've got this little 12in television I like a color big color television so when I got in there I thought here's an opportunity to bring my mother for color television now this is takes a little uh I don't know what happened all I know is I'm sitting in the front row and there's two there's a mother and a daughter beside me okay this wheel goes around and so forth and he chooses me and something in the audience or Whatever I don't remember the particulars but they do the dial and it comes up with a color

television and I said uh you know they take your name and where do you want it mail to and then I send it to my mother so that was fine and so this woman sat beside me with her daughter she said I never wanton anything in my life and I said well what you like and she says oh my refrigerator is on the blink I give anything and they had refrigerator Stoves televisions lawnmowers everything up there and uh we had to go out for lunch and in this CA at that time there was a cafeteria

and you could graze for an hour and then you'd come back to the studio because they might have had difficulty getting that studio full of people and it was during the day and so forth so and it was in September so there weren't that many uh tourists out there so we go back and I said uh while we're sitting there I said you really Want that uh refrig yes yes I said well let's play a game I and what kind of a game I I said let's project that refrigerator that you win it I said

I will give you energy and everything don't think of another thing now just think of your refrigerator don't think about they're going to invite me they're going to ask a question they're going to do the dial and something else is going to come up because so many have to go it has to be This this this and this end result end end result is what you want and all you want is that refrigerator okay and so here three of us are I'm doing nothing but seeing her win the refrigerator she's gain for it she said

if I can win that refrigerator I I I said don't say you never want anything cuz here you you have an opportunity and the daughter said yes I'll work with it well now we go into the studio and There's not that much seating and so they're dividing us up here and he puts me down here and uh they're up there in the Raptors and she's looking down at me and I keep saying refrigerator because I want her to hold that thought and the second or third that they picked out of the audience they go up

there and they point to her and they ask the question and then they roll the thing and it comes up a Refrigerator and she wanted the refrigerator so after we got through there kind of and she said oh I'd like to have you around she says there's lots of things I'd like to win and I said you already have the technique you already have the technique uh sometime it works just on the moment sometime it works on the moment sometime it takes a little longer but there is no failure that can be a delay in

results depending what you're looking for especially if you're Entering contests it may take five or six weeks before they notify you that you won so you have all that period in there to be projecting yes anybody can do this uh I've had a number of students here that never had anything and all of a sudden they want something and I and I have I should keep all the testimonials I have head one of the most exciting testimonials was this young man called me from California Mrs hadel if I was there I'd Squeeze you I say

oh she said I'm a student here and I'm limited on funds and my mother's subsidizing me and I she keeps saying what are you doing with all this money you're spending do you know what she got me for I go home for Christmas and I'm expecting a big check what does she give me she gives me a copy of your book and she tells me why don't you follow the principles in this book and she says and earn your own money she also gave him 100 stamps and Envelopes and cards and because I have a

detailed description in the book how to enter contest and then she said she said he said I went up there and I was ticked at my mother he said so I read your book and here I'm looking at the stamps and I'm looking at the uh envelopes and then I get to thinking I read your book again and I thought well if she can do it maybe I can and he says I wanted a new car but he said I wanted $225,000 because for the summer months I wanted to go to Europe so he said

I I then entered and he says I was amazed how many contests they have in magazines I went to the library and read all these contests available and I chose the ones like you said the ones that I wanted only the ones that were offering cars and money and he said I want you to know I have my car and a week later $25,000 thank you you thank you thank you if I was there I'd embrace You and thought worms uh well I'm tell you a story something it's a it's a book I read but

I don't even know the title or whatever it was but I was intrigued that you can create a thought form and you can it can become so real that someone else can actually see it so I would sit what I would do did a silver dollar and I put it initially this is how I started I put a silver dollar on my uh on table here I looked at it and I looked at it and and all of a sudden It's in my mind's eye so I turn around and I can still see the silver

dollar in midair but what I want to do is I want to be able to do this and see if somebody else can see the silver dollar that's not there did just my thought form cting it so I uh when I was on lecture tour I had time sometime during the day to be by myself and this particular day I felt I was sitting in a park bench and uh there was a behind it there was A a mall for shopping and there were people going back and forth and back and forth so what I

did and all you can do is close your eyes and you can make it a bird or you can make it anything but this silver dollar is what I wanted to do now I see the silver dollar and I mentally put it on the sidewalk after it's on the sidewalk and I can see it even with my eyes closed then you can open your eyes you can open your eyes and you can look around and You can observe the people and it's still there to me in my mind's eye now will somebody else see that

they go back and forth and back and forth all of a sudden a woman comes with a little B A little I'd say about a two or three year old little child and he must have been very very tired of being in his cart because he was hanging onto the cart and they were really slow slowly slowly walking and when they came to where the Silver dollar was this kid his eyes lit up and he reaches down and he keeps going like this and his mother said what are you looking at honey and he goes

nothing well honey there's nothing there there's nothing there and he's he's trying to pick it up because he sees it and then all of a sudden she there's nothing there honey let's go and she's pushing him on and he looks back at me and sort of Grins and goes back Now I'm excited about that oh God I'm excited about that this it's a most wonderful thing and then I thought well I would like an adult see if there are any adults so I just sat there and N now this is an all day session here

it was probably an hour or two later I'm still I'm that silver dollar and they just pass it by some people look where they go and some not all of a sudden there's an elderly man that comes and he's walking very slowly probably Before his walk for the day and all of a sudden he looks down and he starts smiling he did not pick it up but he kept smiling and all of a sudden he goes by it and he said um uh he Saidi know what you're doing and he says I I don't recall

the words that he said I know what you're doing and it's fine or whatever and walked off so again this tells me maybe the elderly and the very young have this Capability but at the point at the time I did it I was not young or elderly I was in between so my theory is you can do it if you choose to you can start out on the tea table at night and you can put uh maybe dice there or maybe some item there whatever and if children are coming in you have grandchild maybe or

neighbor children go ahead and see if they can see it if they try to pick it up something if it's a toy a red toy or something that attracts this child and I Said that would be fantastic then you would know this child can see in another dimension there are many many children that cry at night and say there's a boogeyman there or there's somebody in my room Etc and uh we have some pretty good uh classes now at the colleges that investigate a little more thoroughly on this it's credibility and they are finding that

it has uh credit cred credit credence because this can Happen but that was my research therapy and uh it seemed like after I do it after I read something and then I do it and then I let it pass I mean I'm not going to keep doing it over and over and over again I let it pass I think okay I mastered that but what useful purpose does it serve unless it amuses me or entertains me and then if it comes up again I may do it again I'm doing it with my grandson my uh

well of course he's only a year old but uh I I'll work With that and see what happens there so that's an exciting part now another part that I'd like to share with you and this was a group of people I we had about six or seven and this is a a studio sort of a setup and as I said I experimented with so many many things so many people I didn't even keep track of it it was just one thing right after the other but we were asked uh through six six of us to

create a thought form this Was in Dallas and we created a thought form and then they had uh we we sat there and had fun we had them six feet tall he's got a British accent he's got one brown eye one blue eye and uh his is what I said what kind of a profession should he have and uh we'll just give it to them and just really really making them handsome and so we had to leave the room completely and get out and read something else and take our minds off of It and then

the psychics two two major three well three but two of them were good psychic they came in and sat there and they had to write down what they had seen two of them were on target the other would just had little fleeting things but these these two said he's British they gave him an accent he's got a brown eye and a blue eye and uh he was an architect or whatever we said and so we then question always question uh did they read our minds we Didn't telepathically deliberately communicate but they could have read our

minds but they saw they saw the person that's another experiment sometime it takes a little longer and what I say is if it's important enough do it if it's not go on to something else that you're interested in but in that period I was interested in it and then I research it when I have physical challenges I Have my own own doctor and he's a thought form I'll lay it on the line right away he's a thought form because I can already see him because the typical doctor to me is is in a white coat

he's uh has gray hair and little glasses anoscope hanging here that's the typical doctor so that's what he looks like to me and when I have a physical challenge I say oh doctor come on in and when he comes in and I create him and then then I communicate with them all right now I Question is there another being that has taken over temporarily and gives me the answers or do I get my own answers I don't know but whatever I get makes sense and I follow it and uh when I had major surgery uh

he made more sense than two me two physical doctors did so I rely on him constantly to the this day he's around when necessary and so I I listen to him I mean you know we need to have different uh opinions and uh all the opinions I have I think he's the smartest is it me is a thought form you you'd be you'd make up your mind and you create a thought form that's very simple uh I did research in England for 3 weeks I sat in Seance room specifically because these beings would appear to

me with a message sometime they would just float around if someone came in so now I want to know are these thought forms I create by association or are they coming in on their own valtion and if they are is There a message invited inail what's going on my husband went with me and he went to look has his interests were elsewhere so I would Faithfully go up to this place and incidentally if you're ever in England 34 Bal grave Square it is this uh spiritual Frontier Association and it's still there and you can go

there when I went there I had to pay $2 when I got into the door and she said which medium Do you want to sit with and so you had a choice I didn't know what and she says well why don't you go with Veronica she's on the second floor and in a a half hour situation and you go up there with your ticket and somebody takes it in and then you're in this room with just uh round circle with chairs and then in a few minutes this medium comes out sits there and then closes

her eyes and if you you've seen It on television what is this man called John or whatever his name is I don't even recall because to me I'm jaded and it's not interesting anymore but she would come in and she said I have a message from Martha today Martha uh Thomas is with you and he has a message for you okay all right listen uh that electric bill will be taken care of don't worry about that okay the flowers we planted for you They're blooming yes it's our anniversary I'm waiting for you Martha that was

it behind the medium I see a little man smoking a pipe and I see the smoke coming up I actually can smell the smoke and it was very pleasant very pleasant and that was my first medium I went to Okay I uh after you have this say this sand or whatever you go downstairs and they have a te- room and In the te- room these women women come down mostly women and they Converse like Harry talked to me you know what did Harry say Etc so I gravitate to the one and uh that is uh

I was interested in and then she tells me uh I said did you see your husband no but I know he was there and I she said my flowers are growing you want to come home and see the bushy planted and this is the winter and it's in full bloom and I thought all I could think of when I see things like That I would think of how much energy you were putting into this the medium could see her husband she couldn't but the medium could and knew the enough she was picking her brain picking

up her mind and conveying it and she's in hog heaven because she has a message from Harry you know and it's all what I would say her thoughts so she created this thought form attracted you towards the silver Method because you already had such a deep understanding of how the mind works uh it was destined uh when my friend we went over to Fort Worth to hear him it was a free lecture and the minute I got in there uh he was Da Da Da Da Da and he had all his charts and things and

he has such a heavy accent I couldn't understand him and everybody was wanting to know more about it and he was so so so well the Le you know The he was a Leo and a master number and he's up there and very very proud during the break I nuded him and I said look boy I said you're talking too fast can't understand you he said thank you and then he talked slow because then after that I thought now this guy uh would listen to me because if he had even as a Leo and a

master numbered he would listen to my uh suggestion and talk slow and then even during the break he am I talking Slow enough yes thank you well I was impressed with him I asked him home to dinner and when he came back he said he had to open the Dallas area and he needed somebody to help him and uh the man the metaphysical butterfly volunteered me oh she's at home she doesn't have any work uh she can help I'll help I'll help and there were two Airline stewards and she was secretary to the on the

attorney okay so now we're going to open The areas and I this is so foreign to me this is so foreign to me all of so I said okay we couldn't put ads in the paper at that time because uh it's mind control me uh meant that they were going to influence people and we could not put ads in the paper and uh he should have changed it by the of the last but he was so down down I wanted to be mind control so they can control their mind not we control their mind but

that's the way we left it so my Friend had friends in the churches and so forth so now we're going to have an introductory lecture well at that time I was quite what you want to call popular things a lot of people and I knew one young man that had 's was very very very wealthy he had a uh a building with a big dormatory and I called him and I said can we have this room free everything was free when I called them so so Jose is going to have this lecture there all right

we go there and uh there About 150 people there from the different churches just uh they were conned and saying come and learn to use more of your mind so now we have we're going to register people and I look at josea and there's 120 or 30 people and he he I said how many people do you want for your first program he said what do you mean and I said how many people do you want for your first program and uh he said well let's let's Have 83 you know I says you want 83

okay we'll have 83 and and he walks off and you wonder what the hell's going on all right now the next night he's going to have his class and they're registering and they're calling me for registrations and so forth and all of a sudden uh we're there's 82 in the class and a Jose sitting there and I he we'll get started and I said no there's one more that has to come I did not know any better I decided That he wanted 83 he's got to have 83 and this man I'm sorry and he walked

in the door and there were 83 and I Jose look well see this I had nothing to do with this it was all something I mean guidance was helping him all the time all the time and when I got uh to where he says you have to open the Chicago area I'm not going to open that Chicago I don't I want to fly I don't like to fly at that time I was afraid of flying that was Before I had mind control you know and so I said no get somebody else and Jose would always

say we'll talk about it we'll talk about it and that meant to me I'm I'm already know what I'm going to do I'm going to influence you you know that's a good one to use we'll talk about it so I uh this is this is the way we work and then I said that day he said how can you get someone to help you just sit in Your chair and I say somebody some place has got to help me hey somebody someplace has got to help me come on help me phone rings uh yeah Mrs

yes well I'm Alice so and so and I live in Chicago and I just read an article about you in one of the magazines me uh how can I get Jose up here and I said well I'm PR for him and I'm supposed to come up and open the area uh get a suitable meeting place and Suitable and put ads in the paper and so forth you don't have to do a thing I'll do it all for you I represent a shoe Manufacturing Company I'll get the go the the auditorium free and what else do

you want I mean all over the phone 5 minutes everything was done I Didn't Do It guides were doing it guides were helping me she read my article I wrote for magazines uh and she read this article and all I'm talking about is Jose I said This is so fabulous this is such a great great program and I had the automobile accident and I was saying I mean it was just amazing what happened and she was impressed wanted it and so she did everything everything and it happened again in Detroit oh yes oh yeah tell

us about that uhhuh uh the next time I I did go to Chicago because my husband said well you had mind control how long now why don't you practice it you know but I was so busy in other areas and yes Then I learned to fly I mean I was comfortable flying and then the next time that was directly after Chicago he would come and he would always say they tell me they tell me that I must now go to Chicago I mean to Detroit and that's very T very T night he tells me now

I don't want to go to Detroit and I'm saying they're riding in the street they have carf you don't want to go to they tell me so I thought in your book you talk about how one of the silv method Techniques saved your life in an accident could you tell us more about that okay sure okay uh it was New Year's Eve and it was in uh Dallas and one of my friends had a New Year's in party and I don't really care for drinking and neither did my husband so there was some punch bowl

there and everything so after we left that night I had I think Silva method uh program I think 3 months earlier And in the program Jose was saying you can stop the bleeding or if you have a physical challenge Remember When it Hurts there's pulsations and the more you think about the more it hurts but when you talk about healing then it feels like warm waves of water and then you give the body or the place an opportunity to heal well when I heard that and especially from my background of going into almost traumatic Panic

anytime something Happened to me I thought well I I doubt that that's I doubt that this missed it but now here is New Year's Eve we're at this party on the way home and it had turned slick and it was sley and we were crossing a bridge and uh Dallas incidentally from Irving's 27 miles from my door to her door we're on this bridge and all of a sudden there's a Corvette come up and just rammed into us and I remember his coming up the hood of the car and seeing it well the next thing

I Knew I was on the floorboard and I was dring in my blood and there is I was trying as fast I mean it was just gushing because this nose here is uh it's not plastic surgery but it's in good running condition and it was uh had to be taken care of but anyway here I'm drowning in my blood and I'm pushing a panic button and all of a sudden it seemed like I heard Jose perhaps it was a thought part whatever but I stop the bleeding stop the Bleeding and when I heard that I

yel stopped the bleeding and all of a sudden it seemed to dry up and I was able first there was I couldn't breathe through my nose and all of a sudden I was able to swallow and and there was no more blood when we got to the U emergency room uh the two people that were there the doctors that looked at me the first thing they said when they saw him was I wonder what she looks like so that ought to tell you that this nose was Absolutely pushed in and uh look at her bleeding

has stopped and so then they made a decision what else is wrong with her Etc she needs to have this plastic surgery done and evaluating and the first thing I said to my husband is call Jose call Jose that's the first I thought did he telepathically communicate were my guides I don't know but call Jose it's now 3:00 in the morning Jose is sound asleep with his wife Pat calls and he Picks up the phone he said she was in an accident and what do you do and Jose said uh I will get on it

immediately and call me in the morning at 9:00 and that's all and I'm conscious now and I'm laying in the bed because also had a my back Challenge and several other uh serious things the next morning when he talked to Jose uh Jose went across new AA lar he lived in Laro he went over to new aelo and at that point in his research He had all these Mexican women come up cuz I was over there uh he rented a hallway in an old dilapidated building and there was nothing but metal chairs up there and

these women would come up and Jose had a chalkboard and he would teach you self uh mind mind control how to control yourself how to control your environment how to help yourself help your family and they were so grateful all of this was free and it was his research so now He gets over there and these women all come at his beckon call and said we have an emergency here and we need your help they came there at that Loft and they projected he put me on the screen and later on he told me this

put me on the screen and they detected abnormalities like you're like you were taught in Sila and they came up with the thought that this leg here uh he said he was going to have to um uh put it in the cast and Jose said Don't let him put it in the cast because they'll cut off the circulation because it's going to swell don't let them do that that's what he told Patty I'm not going to uh dis disrupt your um doctor but uh she's strong enough to tell him not to put it in the

cast and we're we're we're going to help her every way we can well to make a long story short when he comes in and he says you need the cast and I said there's no way no way well why I'm I and he argued and he Said she's not cooperating with us to my husband and my husband said it's her foot and whatever she says you listen to her yeah I have to listen to her and he made a joke out of it so we finished that and um what happened then was I then was

convinced and I I think I set this up because in the past I was afraid anything bled I'd bleed to death it wouldn't stop bleeding that was my my concept now I knew after this program I you could stop the bleeding you can the Pain that is so once so intense can be taken down and in waves of warmth you can have healing and you can do this in childbirth and in anything of course right now there's sophisticated methods and it doesn't need drugs all the time you are in CR mind over matter if there's

any way to explain it so this is what happened I'm one of these people that are busy in all different prog in all different areas and I let my physical Body go I wasn't paying attention to it I was having challenges um uh different challenges in the in the female areas and I just never I have never really and truly uh been keen on doctors they seem to misdiagnose or uh they're just practicing on me and they they try to refer to in one of the other patients I had this I'm not that other patient

I'm me I'm uniquely individual and this is I Still have it to this day they only will prescribe what they feel or what they know about and what do you know how much is too much when they prescribe pills for you how much times are you doing too much so these things I mean this is one of my HS but it was time and there was something I couldn't control I'm sitting in this chair right over here and I H what I call a doctor from that other dimension I put him it's his thought Form

is what it is cuz I've created him and I put him in a robe and he looks like a doctor and I he can't and I said okay I need my doctor today and all he said was you you have let this go on too long you need to have this taken care of surgically and I will help you and that's what he said when I heard that I made an appointment to the doctor Lo one of the local doctors here in curn and he said Um uh he did a uh an x-ray and he

looked at it and I came in he said you have a mass here that's on top of your bladder and it has to be removed but he said I see a lot of gray areas and it's maybe cancer I cannot remove it we don't have the facilities you're going to go to this cancer research clinic in Dallas and so that was his diagnosis and he released me and he said okay just go over there but do do have it done so I call this doctor and his name is Dr Jacobs and I thought okay I

come back home and I talk to my little doctor my thought form I thought it was and he tells me he said okay I'm going to be here with you all the time but let's have some humor he said let's have some humor everybody's so serious cancer you don't have cancer let's have have some of know so I get over to this Dr Jacobs and I come in and he's a very uh Stern I mean here's a doctor the doctor IM means the white coat and Mrs Hansel polite Informal so forth and the first thing

he does he has my x-rays on the wall there and he said and here is the growth and I looked at him and I said is it a boy or a girl and he looked at me and he said Mrs Hamel that's that's a tumor I said well haven't you ever read the national inquire I said space aliens are coming down constantly impregnating women that was supposed to be a joke but he didn't think it was funny you know And I said then I used to joke time joke time then you yeah cuz this is

a pure idiot I mean here's a total stranger six 70 years old going to have a baby you know so anyway we get into his office and he said um it will have to be removed and uh I'm doing and he said it might be cancerous because I see all the gray areas here and I'm having to have another doctor with me and anesis and so forth so it'll take and this is uh the early End last of April August July it was in the middle of July and August I'm the key speaker at the

convention and there's no way I'm going to uh tell Jose I can't make it so we're sitting in his office and he says well let's see I think I can get all this done in about 8 to 10 days and I'll let you know I said no you won't I said get on the phone and make it happen now and he kind of looked at me like a little kid and he Got out his book and he called the doctor he said uh this is Wednesday can you H can you help me with surgery Friday

and he got the anesthesist and Friday was when I was going to have this surgery not nine days later because I wanted to heal here so he said yes Mrs hon this is done and I said what else do I need to know and he said well you have to give me permission to give you uh blood transfusions because at your age uh we Have big problems with blood and they bleed intently and so I have I said no I'm not going to sign that I can stop the bleeding and when I said that he

thought I'm pure nuts and uh he he said well Mrs and I said okay I said I'll sign that release but you don't need it I'll stop the bleeding and as I walked out the door he just shook his head and I know he ran to his other doctors to say I have a pure idiot here today Friday morning my husband and I And uh the clinic over there that uh takes care of cancer patients they had have a motel there so we spend the motel and the night at the motel and all I did

was sit in my chair all night and talked to my medic my doctor and he says it's going to be all right we're going to help you you're going to have the healing and you're going to be uh the speaker in the radio on 11th okay so now uh when I they they do the surgery there's no cancer because I never Learned to develop cancer oh when he said do you have cancer and I said no I never learned to develop it because Jose says this all the time and it's you never learned to develop

cancer and that's been a thought with me every time somebody says she has cancer or he has cancer you know what I say I never learned to develop it so this is what I tell this doctor now I'm completely a nut well to me now after the surgery I open my eyes my husband is standing here The anesthesist and this two doctors are here and the nesis at there and he said we want to know how you stop the bleeding you did not bleed we cannot believe that you could stop this and I said what

I said it's mind over matter and he said how do you teach that and I and I said well let me tell you what happened to me I take this class and we could stop bleeding we we can do so many things we're not aware of he said that Is beautiful that is beautiful and I said yes and what you're going to do the next time you get an elderly patient and you're you're looking for them to bleed all you're going to say to them is she's not going to bleed and then you can stop

the bleeding don't you know how powerful you are and they all shook their heads and went out so now I said and there were TW all over me I mean it was and I said who needs this so there was a little uh packet up here and uh he said Now anytime you have a HT you press it and yourself medicate yourself well I thought I can medicate myself and be a zombie or I can get out of here I wanted to get out of there as fast as I could so the next and I

never used it if see what happens when you have something it comes in segments and you're aware of this in segments if you have a toothache it's pulsation all right the body does the same thing when You're cut and it's trying to heal so let it heal and so I'm healing healing healing healing and that's all I thought about was healing the body never use that thing next morning he came up he shook the bag and he's looking at his monitor and uh he calls the nurse in and he said did you change her he

uh did you change this her medication and he it's not didn't nothing happen and she said no doctor we haven't and he said he said Haven't you use that thing I said no I said I want to get out of here and I wanna be comfortable and I want to be in control and see and uh when you're taking drugs you're never in control when you're drinking you're never in control and I've always got to be in control so he just shook his head and he said well honey uh will'll just and they came in

and pulled out all these plugs and things and the next day I went home and these are books here that you Can get at any one of the stores walm might might be an example and I made my own and then down here it was I put their names and started out with U I would say pce things in that I felt that would be uplifting and then always refer to when you're in a real real down thinkinking mood read the Des and then points to P so my first question on uh the first part

on how to become a winner in your process Is about selecting it now do you think a lot of people do not get what they want out of life because they don't know what they want this is true yeahuh yeah some people uh go with a tide or they're limited on on a church Dogma that if you want something uh it's the work of the devil and you're not you don't deserve it a lot of it depends on what your background was what culture you came from what was your upbringing And uh you have to

spend maybe like I said yesterday from 1 to 7 you're subed to your parents' Concepts and things from that point on you have to make your and then you're then you go in and your peers I mean you know that's important uh when is it that you can really say I want to be myself and that's when you decide what is it that you want we're always influenced that's a given and so after you're influenced what direction do you Want to go what's important to you the second one is about projecting uh and is projecting

just a form of visualization and uh yes yes you're projecting you have projected now uh what is it that you want so now you're going to project it someplace and projecting would be to see it to see it to visualize it to make a little scenario of it uh some in some cases if you say I can't visualize I teach them How to visualize and uh that is just I give him an orange and I said you see the orange and then see the orange okay see the sun kissed on the orange now close your

eyes and see the orange I said that's as simple as it is because I'm say I can't visualize but you can it's a mental thing and so when you are projecting it you are visualizing it and visualizing it means putting it in a situation like a car You're sitting in the car you smell new car color of the car standing by the car that's visualization and you're always in that picture it's all about expecting it what does that really mean is it like how do you expect something how do I expect something it's a given

you just uh know it's coming never doubt it if uh something comes to your mind or or you and don't tell anybody because when you tell people they have a negative condemnation And they say what makes her think she's going to win that now in my case because I won everything it was to my advantage because they'd say she's going to win it and so they gave me more energy but if you are surrounded by negative people then I would not tell anybody I would keep it to myself and I I would expect it I

know it would come and then if I got disappointed and this is very common I would say no there's just there's no Failure there's a delay in results and then continue to do that because sometime things that you are expecting uh take a little longer than you anticipated now uh all of that makes a lot of sense but a lot of people will still have that nagging out they will say I've tried it uh but I'm not successful I'm not getting what I want out of life I'm still not a winner what do you say

to those people that have Listen to everything you have just said but then come back and say I'm still not where I want I'm still not getting what I want okay what you shared with me the one thing when they say this I'm trying to do this I said honey you can try and try and try the rest of your life that to me is negative what you you take try out of your vocabulary it's coming it's coming and that's it trying means you keep on trying that's Negative I never try I do something very

very cool do you have any other follow question um you don't ever try you do now hold on I just Mike a followup question this should be in your voice though because every else is in your voice but what is the good way of building up your degree of um oh yeah no in the beginning it's hard to expect no I think that's an ex Yeah so to somebody that is just learning how to become a winner how to use this system to get what they want would you recommend that they start with smaller easier

contest does that even exist this is there uh yeah how how do you recommend you get started with this uh if you are especially if you have not been a winner before okay uh it all depends on the individual if they think small then they get small things and if this makes you Feel comfortable then start out uh I started out with an outboard motor that was the thing then I went back to just bik bicycles and roller skates and footballs and little stuff that the made the kids Happy And then all of a sudden

when we had a decision uh let's let's project for somebody to uh to pay for our vacation every year so we never paid for our vacation so we went to uh dude ranches to New York to Europe uh to Disney World twice and so those were Leading up to it well then as you win you I I guess you'd say you get more confidence so if the individual feels like hey that sounds overwhelming I think I'm just going to predict for something small then do it and then build up to it every person is different

and so that's what you do I mean I just happened my husband happened wanted an outboard motor and that was the first thing that I thought of okay we'll win it for what technique do you Recommend to overcome negative thinking as you mentioned a lot of people especially in their first seven years uh are conditioned in a way that they need to unlearn or remember what's the best way to start doing that okay fortunately today there are very there's quite a number of books The Power of Positive Thinking is one you you are what you

think Proverbs and uh what there's a magazine now a national magazine and it's called Woman's World and it comes Out once a week that is the most powerful positive uh book that is available today for anybody even my son reads it and in this book uh on every uh every other page there thoughts for the day that are very very powerful on love on protection on energy every everything they have it may be repetitious but it's uplifting so we look forward to that book every time I get it I give it to my daughter-in-law I'd

have a copy here but it's Woman's World okay and I can't say enough about that and you have also mentioned earlier today the law of Attraction which is very similar or identical to the system that you talked about a long time ago is there a difference between the law of attraction is there something specific uh uh that people uh should do to activate it or is it everything that you already mentioned in your four-step process I don't think it's anything new Or anything different uh the law of attraction is desire the minute that you Des

desire something what you're doing you're coning up energy and and then you're projecting out energy and so that's it's not a big secret but many people don't realize how powerful thinking is so desire is a criteria what one of the things that you mentioned just now is that desire is related to energy and everything is energy and vibrations and The more energy you send out the more comes back so what specific technique would you recommend for somebody to raise their energy because it sounds like it's all related to how much energy a person can send

out that's a very good good question because one it follows desire you have a desire and if it's a positive desire and it can be negative too but how much time are you spending on that how many how often are you thinking about it thought becomes things And another thing that I need to point out and that is when you do something with emotion emotion brings it faster draws it faster to you emotion is uh well what you do on emotion and you can watch a person when they cry or when they say it or

when they curse and when they get angry they're angry the motion is intense and usually when they get very Very angry and then something happens because they're so angry that they don't lose they lose the fact that they're working with an instrument that could be and cut their hand off or something this is energy and I think there is a statistic on it more accidents in this entire world are caused when somebody is really enraged in aner energy anger because then they they don't look at anything else they're so caught up in anger and so

when you are projecting and You have energy like I said you can even taste it you can smell it and that's energy going into a car with the new smell that's a perfect example of using this more more energy because now you're experiencing it see we're touchy feeling smelly people I mean that brings on more energy for us so if you have the opportunity especially if you want a car or a new house you go into a new house and you can smell the new house because the lumber is still Exposed and so that would

be more effective or you if you find an old house get into it roam around and this is my place that's how I chose when we were working going in different areas when my husband was traveling I would go to rent a place I would go in and my husband said check it out and I would go through the house this doesn't smell good and I'd leave so you become I mean there all those little things that that you have At your disposal that you can utilize and so this is energy this is energy direct

into it with emotion okay thank you another question that I have is that uh especially the positive thinking part all starts in your mind now a lot of people have a negative mind uh how do you get how do you just suddenly cancel that uh and I'm asking that because a lot of people uh that I talked to they Contin they just say they are not even the master of their own mind how do you Become the master of your own mind desire nobody can do it for you you can point it out and Dr

Murphy had a good saying uh after I met him and he sent me his books and I would when I called him I said Murphy I said you have all he sent about 13 books I said you say the same thing over and over and over over again you saying the same anecdotes can't you think of something different and he roared with laughter and you know what he told me he said you Know something if they read it 42 times it may sink in and they'll get it I think that's profound because sometimes you have

to read it over and over and over again until you say oh this makes sense then you change nobody can change for you you can't tell people the change you can't tell people you're too negative nothing is going to happen to you they don't believe it until you give them something and they look at it and might have to read it 42 times and then They'll get it okay hopefully you don't have to read it 42 times but Murphy was the one that said it I call it Murphy's Law now another question that I have

is after you had mastered this the how to attract anything you want always you then went on to study the silver method now what was it that led you to why did you continue uh studying and what was it specifically about the silver method uh that why did you choose to learn it because you already were a master of Your domain why did you continue specifically with the silver method I guess I told you that earlier because when I first met Jose I was very impressed with him I wanted to know more about it and

then when I went into the program as it is today and learned techniques things I didn't really know uh when you're reading that chart brain how the brain functions valuable fantastic information but the information uh when you can when you can Change energy and you can stop the bleeding uh this was profound where else would I've ever gotten that technique and so that's why I was so grateful for it and I became his PR just because he impressed me with the knowledge he had and was sharing it with everybody wonderful one it was a completely

uplifting experience for me uh life is a life is either a daring Adventure or nothing and I guess that's been been my philosophy in contesting And then all of a sudden I I win everything I possibly could win or want and then I'm bored so what's next that's when I got serious serious about what makes me tick click and get sick what makes you get that way why are you that way why why are people different I I got so intense inquisitive about that then I started on a whole new world of of researching this

part I probably was About four or five years old when I started seeing in other dimensions and my mother insisted that I was lying or I was the work of the devil not to tell anybody and then uh did you read my story about my grandfather uh when U he died and I insisted remember grandmother said the Angel is coming to get him because it was a picture of an Angel uh all over the houses there the Catholic and so um I assumed this angel with this huge Wing Was coming he's dying now to come

and get him and I insisted on being in the room when all the family was around praying and the priest blast rights and things and I'm looking for this Angel but all of a sudden all these people appear and he sits up in bed which is I mean I'm seeing it's just I'm just standing there amazed and then he smiles and he walks through the wall with all these people and he's still laying on the bed now I'm Utterly confused us and I and I tell we after we got out of the room and my

mother hush hush hush you know be quiet and so forth and uh I said but Grandpa didn't have an angel you know and she he said don't you tell Grandma that he didn't have an angel I said but he went off with all these old men so what I was seeing you know was this spirit so he didn't change and then he was still laying there and then that was it and so that Was my my first experience and then being squatched um later on when I was 17 and I had romatic fever and I

was in bed and I um miserable miserable and all of a sudden when the uh the doctor would come to give me medication and uh when he told me that there was nothing else he could do well that night uh everybody's I had brother and sister and my mother and dad were sleeping and I was laying there and I said okay I Said I don't want to be here stay here and be a burden to anybody and I said and if I committed I didn't commit a mortal sin but a venial sin because I looked

see I was 17 and I looked at this kid with curly hair and I had visions of of a love and romance let's put it that way and I said if that's considered a Vil sin then that that's okay I'll go to hell temporarily see I was still inbound in this thing and then this being Appeared here this this picture this is the being that appeared to me and I could see him and he said what makes you think you can die and I said well I don't and we were had a conversation and he

said no no no no he said you came in here to do many many many things and then he he said you're healed and he left and I and then I yelled at my mother and I said come in uh this man's been in here and all she said was you Had a fever again and put the thermometer in my no no no he said I was healed and then she pulled back the covers and my legs you know romatic fever swells the joints and she saids now you she said that was just a good

dream and the next morning and this was a month later I got up up got up and went out in the kitchen and I says I'm ready to go back to school now what do you mean by um personalities you want to communicate With uh there were um a number well uh for instance I um read about Norman Vincent Peele power positive thinking I was very impressed with his book in fact he was the one instrumental in me getting started uh when I first read his book The Power of Positive Thinking what he said you

can have anything you want Pro provided you know what it is and see yourself is already having it and when I when I read that and of course that's in my book uh You know the name it claim it game and I gave him credit and I thought well maybe I'd like to meet him someday well it didn't happen that I met him personally but he Conta conted me and he would write articles about me in the various magazines about my using his principles and then there was a young do there was a young priest

uh uh Dr Joseph Murphy and Dr Murphy was a Catholic priest in California and uh I think became Disillusioned with all of the ritual the priestcraft and the things that he had was was it limited and he asked for a sabatical and when he was on this sabatical he sat in a chair and he decided what he wanted he wanted a 3story house he wanted it secluded he wanted on the second floor he wanted a room where he could tape he was he thought it it was very very important to tape Uh for uh P

taping it's called personal taping you know that's very very very successful now programming and the church did not allow that and this is the reason he backed off and wanted to do his own thing okay he was uh limited on funds because there were no funds available but fortunately one of his parishioners at a radio station and ask him to do thought for the day you know what is love compassion Etc and paid him A nominal fee and Murphy said he used to uh put hot water in ketchup as for tomato soup just sitting in

this chair visualizing this place and one day it was about a month later knocking the door an attorney are you uh Joseph yes and he said uh one of my clients has passed away and you've inherited her entire estate come see what you have so Murphy gets in the car and they go up to the Hollywood Hills and this fabulous place and he walks in the door and everything he imagined was there and then he ask the uh attorney does there happen to be a room upstairs with taping equipment and then the the attorney said

you were here you know this and Murphy said no he said I just uh this is something I've always wanted so he had his dream fulfilled when um I'd never met Murphy uh but he was doing a a lecture In Dallas at one of the churches and he called me and he said Peele said I had to come and meet you so I'm coming uh I'm coming out the house he was he was about this tall very dictatorial and I said well okay uh I I didn't know him I hadn't read anything of his at

that time and uh I said well why don't you come to dinner okay he said I want a ground beef steak and mashed potatoes and he says I'll bring a I'll bring the wine not the wine but He brought something else and uh uh we'll see you my driver will be there and he said I don't want a small talk nobody there I want to talk to you and your husband can talk to my driver he's just like you know he's just this way so when he came in and he was he was a delightful

absolutely Del delightful we had dinner he now we talk so I went into the living room my husband entertaining in the den and uh he says I want to ask you Something how do you do you think this came about what is your perception on why I was able to accomplish all this and I said oh that's easy I said you sat there and you wanted this and see how minds work I said this woman uh you don't know her she was listening to you on the radio here she had all of this stuff and

she had no one to to give it to probably to charity and she thought gosh uh here he sounds uh sincere and I have this place up here I think I'll Give it to him okay he picks up this thought she's in her room and she looks at all her appointments I mean her china cabinet with Sterling and her paintings and uh projects I mean he's looking he picks up her thoughts and he thinks they're his you see and all of a sudden they communic they're just like one and now he's aware cuz when he

W walked in that house it was familiar it was exactly what he projected he did not project it she projected it to him and He thought it was his idea and this happens so often so often when I do that so this uh this he's only appeared twice and the second time he appeared this was very very interesting I had uh started with Jose and I was uh sitting there typing I'd had so many many many people call after I did research in uh contesting is what I did and I was very very very successful

so naturally people are coming to my door and calling and so forth and I'm a I'm a Witch all this good stuff I didn't say that I was using witchcraft I was using wish w s h wishcraft and so um I am uh typing and all of a sudden he appears again just as I mean it's like this and he said now you started to do what you came in here to do and that was U it's not a big deal you know some people come in to help people on a onetoone basis to uplift

them and encourage them and it just so happen that I had to have the masses to Lift up and to encourage but I've never felt like I was a chosen one or anything like that because I have had help from that other dimension that is absolutely fabulous and I know it's from another dimension because how else would have it would have it happened and many times I was um seeing something and I wanted it and so you know you said first of all you uh selected you projected you expected and then you collect it that's

uh that was been my philosophy and not Only with material things but there's other things that I find much more uh exciting or much more are rewarding uh even if it's a personality that I would like to communicate with personally and this happens it's a a roundabout thing no accidents no happenstances I don't believe in that so there you go now when I'm on the podium lecturing mostly people would ask me to come and talk about my book the Name it and claim it game because everybody wants to be a winner that was fine um

this was this happened on the outskirts of Boston I I Le you quite a bit Boston Massachusetts up there in that area New Hampshire I got up there and uh she wanted me to talk about my um name it and claim it game so I get on the podium and I have this fun and game session okay today I see the whole room full of winners here everybody is a winner but I Look in the third row and there's one man sitting there immediately I know he's going to kill himself he's on self-destruct I shift

gears and then I talk about I said what a shame when a young person feels so inadequate and so rejected that they have to kill themselves brutally leave all their family behind to mourn and wonder what's going on and leaving this perfectly good body shame on you and I am getting into this Hook Line and Thinker that you do not kill yourself well I don't look at people because uh many of the student members that were there before that heard me the year before know I focus on somebody and I'm looking out in the you

know and just talking and talking and here all these people want to come here winning and I'm going on this all of a sudden bless his heart a man at the back of the audience stands up and he said thank you Mrs hadel he said my brother killed himself Last week and we're still mourning the process and uh we know we never I mean he was despondent and so forth and so after then the audience then thinks well I directed that at him which I didn't and so this is so discom numerating and I'm there

now 15 minutes and I break time and everybody what the hell is going on the woman that sponsored me wants me to talk about books talking about this now it's break time so what I do then go into the Bathroom go into the stall and say damn it I came here for talk he said but you have reached him and he says it's okay now you can go out and talk about your book so I get out of my stall and this elderly woman approaches me and she said uh were you talking about my son

and I said is he in the third row and she said oh Mrs hadel I must tell you she said he his wife left him and he's he's a very successful architect and he doesn't seem to get over it and I said He's rejection and she said I have a feeling that he is about to kill himself and she said uh my husband is out working and is not home that night and we've had robberies in our area and I called my son to come over and spend the night cuz I wanted him to come

to your lecture he didn't want to come he doesn't want to come you don't want to hear anything about contesting and she said I got out my car Wouldn't start and it's drizzling and yet I had already paid to listen to hear you cuz you were in town and uh so I asked my son to take us there and I says you can watch television while I'm hearing her she'd been there the year before cuz I was doing every year lectures and so they got there and uh the lobby is just full of people and

so um she said oh come and sit in on her and if you don't like her during the break we're going to leave we're going To leave and there wasn't any room left and finally the door is closed now and there's only one seat there on the third row and uh he gets this third row seat and his mother's sitting someplace else and that's when I Z in on and so she said do you think uh and I said I think we uh I've made contact with him well now she says are you ready to

leave he says no I want to hear this woman it's okay so after I make this pray and then I say tomorrow I said let's get real real serious and I says we're going to learn some things about uh know thyself we're going to learn all about you if you're interested you're going to be at my Workshop if not you're where you're supposed to be I've never never advertised so that night he said you know I think I'll go to her Workshop tomorrow well the first thing in this Workshop was and this was Jerry CI

I don't know if he's still with the Program but he is the one that sponsored me there and the first thing he wanted was to uh teach regression I asked for a volunteer and he's the first one up there and I said okay now anything that comes past in this life or past life I said I don't know what you need to look at I don't care he said just lay it on and we started that lifetime after lifetime he was a very very aggressive and a woman just needed to be at home to Take

care of her this lifetime his wife was challenging him was not going to be told what to do and he had still had that intense feeling of I'm in control uh you're going to follow me and said I'm the head of the house men have that you know tend majority of men have that tendency I'll back off and so um she didn't like it and she left him and he was very very embarrassed with his peers and how dare she do this she had Nothing further to do with him and so the embarrassment and the

rejection was too much for this proud proud man and uh this all appeared I mean you know like what else is new one thing I'm interested in it seems the n and claimed the Law of Attraction yes so it is very easy easy but yet so many people struggle why do you think that is okay you can only think of one thing at a time and you're serious about getting Something but you tell somebody else and that somebody else may be jealous and not want you to have it and so it's a delay in the

results you then pick up that person's thought and then you think why should I have it some people people are actually guilty that they're committing a sin by wanting something and so whatever their Consciousness or whatever their thought or however they were brought up in a family see uh when you're when you choose your parents You're subjected from a from birth to age seven and uh you learn mannerisms uh their their Concepts uh their religion everything about this and even walk like it and so forth and then all of a sudden you get out into

school now you pick up peers your peers what do your peers think and then you get to thinking and then as you grow up the rest of your life you're going to have to undo what you learned from 1 to Seven and even uh I have found uh and this is very interesting when I regressions I have found children that are in the womb with the mother and uh there are comfortable there and are subjected to the environment but I have also found children that although here is a physical part and they're eliminated they're here

and their soul only comes in you mean the soul comes in after the kid is born after the child is born also I have found that children come in and there is probably an elder around and has not made the transition yet but has not learned all the lessons and this child has nothing there has no soul there is just a physical thing and after the death uh the essence come in and incidentally this Essence has been uh weighed that's maybe A4 of an ounce or whatever uh you know when we had death bed scenes

and we would uh wonder when there was this um being coming out and Then of course there was a I mean they measured that in one of the researches W right the the the body tends to lose a certain amount of weight yes just ounces but it does this tells you that this sole Essence here uh it's an energy as well what it is then can only will come in into the child so you're saying the child is born as an empty vessel without a soul waiting waiting for usually someone that is in a physical

now we also find that older people uh they have The essence and they can go back and forth back and forth and back until they release the body and then in some of my regressions I have found uh this to be just awesome absolutely awesome what do you mean by regression so you mean you are putting people through a hypnotic regression yes I do would that be something you'd be able to show us one of us I can share with you it's a tedious process unless you Have um you come here for a particular purpose

something that's unresolved and uh sometime uh I always caution uh people be sure because I have to have permission from your beans I don't mess around I'm I'm too serious and I know that we're getting so much help from that other side I don't want to mess with it Chicago Chicago I had just gotten back on my trip uh to U where did I Go good Lord I was invited to Russia just got back from my my trip to Russia and I was one of the speakers in uh Chicago so I had to just get

off a plane like you're doing now and then get on a plane and get to Chicago when I got to Chicago Jose was sitting there in the foyer and with Dr um doctor two doctors and Norm Sheely I'm sure you've heard of Norm she he is the one that has the pain clinic in Wisconsin has written a number of books training people how to heal Themselves very very and U um what I would say very well known at that time in my experience okay they were all sitting there Norm Sheil and this medical doctor and

Jose and Harry we were sitting there and uh I'm noticing the doctor uh this one doctor was very sad and all confused and I'm wondering what is he doing here Norm Sheil had Good Vibes and Jose and Harry were Good Vibes but I'm concerned about this doctor so I went up to my room and Got ready now I want to come down and have some coffee in the coffee shop and he's sitting there and I SL slip into the U seat there and I said uh what's your problem I said the world is a I

said pity party time what is your problem and he kind of looked at me because this is very bold you know to walk up to a stranger and he said well he said is it that obvious and I said yeah I said I don't even like your Vib Vibes what's going on and he said well His wife just divorced him he was caught in another triangle of extracurricular things like some of the men like to do and uh his wife left him with children and he has nothing he can't see the children now his mother-in-law

is interfering and won't let him even visit the children and he's just perplexed you know he's unhappy and I said well you CA well I know I did and I he said listen uh have you ever heard of Henry rker heard of Henry Rker Henry rker was this 6 fo8 tall black man in Chicago very very well known he would invite them downstairs where he had a mamb system of he of healing uh uh well he would use uh music for healing he would use healing for energy he had all these complicated things systems so

anyway um he said we're invited to go to Henry ryker's place tonight would you like to come with me I said don't know anything about him so he Tells me what's going on and he says I'm sure he won't mind so I said he says now he said we get there and Henry rker talks all night it may be 2: in the morning 4: in the morning uh do you need to come back if you do he said said I don't want you to go because I want to see what this man has to tell

me so okay we're going to go so he get hires a cab and we go out to this place way in the heart of the black area and get there and going Downstairs and Henry stands up and he says oh we have this woman from Texas tonight and he the floor is full of black kids girls and boys long hair the whole nine yards and uh U he said tonight we're going to um devote the night to Mrs hadel in Texas she needs to know she needs to learn some things and I'm all I said

whatever I'm open he said what do you want me to talk about I says how about love I says I know there are many Facets to love what's your take on love he turns on his tape recorder and he talks 3 hours on love he talks about going to other dimensions and coming back uh to experience love with its intensity he said in other Realms uh love is so so intense and so healing and then coming back here on this planet with all of the confusion and all of the turmoil that we have to go

through and we can do this by Encasing us with what we call a shield a light uh we can have we can experience that L it can be ecstasy we can also when we have an orgasm when we have a love making love with a partner and we have an orgasm and he said when you have an orgasm does anyone ever want to laugh ridiculously laugh during this orgasm he said if you do you are not experiencing love to the fullest because you're on another Le level experiencing Ecstasy and the only way you can demonstrate

here is by laughing hysterically laughing and he said I don't recommend that for women because the husband would be feel you're anid you know insulted you're laughing at his performance I mean you just don't do that so I'm sitting there and he's nodding because hell I've had those you know and so I really and truly it was it's very difficult because you laugh in your Pillow and then you have to get up and go to the bathroom so got to go to the bathroom taking the pillow and laughing in the pillow because you're hysterical and

then you sit on the commode and you laugh and you laugh and hope he fell asleep cuz you I didn't know what was happening why I was laughing like an idiot well he explains this because it's very rare very rare that you can actually experience the true love that is in this other plane down on this Level unless you're out of the body having sex and that's when it happens okay okay an elemental is a person that has no no soul no so why do they come in a lot of them come in uh when

there's a brutal rape attack and no one takes I mean uh they're not prepared see when you're in that other dimension you choose your parents uh you actually choose your name you choose the date that you're to come In and until you do uh past life research uh you can't fathom that this is possible but it is so you do all these things and all of a sudden there's a brutal attack a rape attack and nobody has claiming that body and so there's not a Soul Essence there so what you are you're an elemental uh

when I was working with Jose I would monitor all these people that would come in well one evening one girl comes in and she doesn't feel right She doesn't look right there's nothing around her she talks she's married she has two children met her husband and her children but there's something about her I don't know and I can't I can't fathom what what's wrong with her I asked Jose and he said you'll get an answer and many times he would say find your answer and uh so it probably was a learning experience for me because

I did not know why she was not like the rest of them so all of a Sudden I have a very wealthy friend in Dallas that would contact me periodically and he said uh Mrs hatel do me a favor there's a woman in Al morda that is a Mystic and uh why don't you call her I don't want to call her but you call her and bring her to Dallas and uh have her as one of the key speakers we would have a Sunday night uh talking on different aspects and he was in charge he

was the one that own the building and was very generous and uh Would get guest speakers in for anyone that was interested in metaphysics and psychic phenomena okay so I call her and she comes down and when she comes down she's my house guest and that night she's my house guest and she's saying uh why don't you have about 12 or 15 of your friends come over and we'll do a meditation and at that time I was having Cottage groups and so I call my friends That I wanted over there and some where some for

some reason she's at one of these friends houses and she hears that I'm going to have this and she comes Uninvited and when she walks in the door uh a her name was uh well Evo what is her name and uh she calls me aside and she said why do you have this Elemental here and I said what do you mean and she says she's an elemental and I said what's an elemental see the first time I'd ever known this well she doesn't have a soul she does not have a connection and I said but

was can a soul come down want to connect with her she said no she's just uh there's nothing uh and this led me to believe when you hear people that say this is the only life I have live it to the hilt I question are they alals uh they do not have uh what I call a connection with our uh with group souls or whatever they're just part of Come down in a physical body and you usually Monitor and are taught things but they have nothing of the spirit so why was she with my group

I asked and the question was that her husband was uh in this area and one of the children was very very serious and the other one was being monitored but she had no connection to a soul a group Soul Thing I learned something then there was a lot a lot I'd go out in the field I didn't know any I I felt I knew nothing so i' Keep an open mind and uh listen to people when they came up and would would uh do something one time I is in uh this is in uh uh

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Whitney hi everybody I'm Nicole this is news for the soul we're live on a Sunday it's been a little while we had a little bit of we're free from our Sunday shoes We're back yay mostly because I've been away really dancing on the weekends for shitty for the soul.com but we're here doing news for the.com and what better news than the story we're going to hear today how would you like to win all the time every contest you enter well this is what Helen has experienced so we're going to find out about her story we

started a long time ago uh we're just waiting for her to get in on the switchboard here so what we're going to Do is do the break now and then talk to Helen hatel find out about her amazing lifetime of winning I mean we're talking not just little things we're talking about you know not coupons but winning a house and trips all over the place to the point where it actually got boring to do so so H can't imagine how many times you have to win a trip to Europe to get bored of that but

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of Vancouver What a great place to bring news for the soul I know we H perfect remember that movie did on Christopher Waton no you yeah it was like that for real I think reasonably accurate too honey oh that's an understatement honey okay everybody take a deep breath we come we know that we choose to come to this world and we're chosen to come to this world and we've come progressed we breathe in for ourselves And out for Spiritual involment and as we breathe these moments let's open up our hearts and open up our souls

and let the true awareness of news for the soul make its impact now and forever well Dan Danel just mentioned the heart attack that is how we died isn't it wow two heart attacks one after the other yeah wow no I had him I this is not a you know I have him you know the whole thing about the spirituality And and the wealth or sustainability not going together I just think it's the biggest little crap you know I mean what have you got it is girl well really what have you got to give anyone

if you've got nothing with your keep out door CU can't is going bye-bye yes um I had this really bizarre experience where I got sucked through a wall like a solid hole bre during the Time that I was knocked unconscious uh an angel came to me people's solidity began to morph with the geometries so you'd see little bits of like the hand began to go missing and this particular Angel as I recount in the book uh said to me that I had chosen the wrong path in life that I was to choose A New Path

and it was to be a path of piece of the peach piece lots of amazing things coming up for this hour news for the soul um see Brought back in 1 minute I'd have to believe that the times that we're in are very important to us mentally emotionally and spiritually because if we're not really really careful in paying and complimenting news for the soul we're about to find ourselves wrapped up in something that will literally Encompass the world and not from the Viewpoint that we're looking at it from so tonight it is an empowerment a

Place to become aware a place to change a place to not become fear-based but become loving let's all take that deep breay stay connected to each other and reminding each other about you know holding this energy not getting up into all that like all that garbage on TV for the last 3 days just showing all the reand of all the people falling out of the skyscrapers on the 11th and You know just over and over wallowing in low freix mindset exactly so that's that's the mindset great that is that is a controlled mindset to change

people's Consciousness to create a way at which that they can be control to make a decision like war or not [Music] [Music] war you know I I figure hey is shouldn't say on aono but I mean Compared to doing experiencing it's right experiencing let's experience some of what you do now they're driving should they be concerned no but turn the radio up a little bit oh yeah grandfather car me [Music] grandfather oh can [Applause] [Music] grandfather we are all it and that's Really what Cosmic Consciousness is about I mean Christ Consciousness was the last age

we're in Cosmic Consciousness now and Cosmic Consciousness is oh God we we all are gone he just tuned in and you're wondering what the heck here are all of our previously aired broadcast of news theou online at news forthe soul.com now let's get back to the [Music] Show and we are back I'm ni go news for this whole lifechanging talk radio from the uplifting to the Unexplained what better uplifting can we do then B you a story from someone who has won nearly every contest she's ever entered how would you like to do that talk

about Law of Attraction there and we're talking about uh a longstanding history of large prizes to the point of where winning free trips to Europe apparently got Boring so we want to find out how we can experience that as well and how we can apply that to whatever we're living in our lives Helen hadil is my guest for the rest of this hour and I'm excited about uh talking to her and introducing you to her she has worked with uh the likes of Dr Norman Vincent Peele and Joseph Marie authoring H books of power of

subconscious mind uh helping Jose Silva set up Silva method mind training centers over the years quite the Interesting history let's find out her story H welcome to news for this Soul well hi there how are you doing great I would imagine you're always doing great yes yes uh it's a busy time all the time for me so what is your story I know you've probably told it a cab billion times over many years but I I'm uh I just discovered you recently via the Internet Uh I think it was through email I got from Joe

valii recently or something and I thought oh my goodness listen to this so this is new for me and my listeners some of them perhaps and I'd love to hear your story well uh should we start at the beginning that's ANC and do you have about 20 or 30 hours perhaps it's more condensed version but beginning yes yes but I know the um a group from Malay she came over To to do a DVD and we sat here eight hours uh interviewing me and that was just a well it was it could have gone on

forever because everything in my life I feel has been u a daring Adventure or nothing I think I set this up really uh but um uh let's start at the beginning yes I was a little happy Homemaker with three children and uh you know we all we we our needs are met mostly but then we have a lot of once and that's when I started entering Contest that's originally when it started I actually I had read the book uh The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peele and um he he said one thing that

intrigued me said you can have anything you want provided you know what it is and see yourself as already having it there's no doubts just see yourself as already having it I think I meditated on that and I thought that just is is Just too simple I'm a person that always have to has to investigate everything well anyway nevertheless that night I my husband came in and we were talking and I said you know um I read this book and I'm fascinated about what well we can win if we want to we can just apply

this to anything and uh he was reading the paper and he said U well here uh he said okay why don't you um win me an outboard motor and he was reading the paper and the Evan rude Outboard motor had a contest you had to write 25 words or less while you take cocacola on outings and I said and he says and then you can win us an an outboard motor and that night I was so serious and you want to say I don't know but I went into my room and I sat there and

I thought I I pictured my husband sitting in a boat with a sixpack of Cokes and that's all I did that was my picture and then I wrote this article I mean I wrote the 25 words My husband loved to go fishing on weekends by himself he he was in a very very stressful uh work at work and this was his way to release and all the children were too young to go with them so and he just had an old paddle booat and that's was for a couple of hours but he wanted this out

for motor so now temporarily I became him and I sat there and I said um I'm a lone wolf fisherman CS are my silent Partners they contribute no Yakity Yak when called upon and that was 25 words I send it in I showed it to him I send it in and I said I wonder how long it's going to take them to let us know that you won it was exactly 10 days later when an a local representative called and said uh you won uh your offboard motor well see that was the start of it

and then I thought before you go on um how long ago was that when was that oh honey that was in the 40s when they were having a lot Of the uh 25 words or less 50 words or less and a few sweep Stakes but today there's mostly sweep Stakes but anyway that's originally how I got started well I want to ask you a couple questions before you move on about just the process cuz I'm like you I like to kind of scientifically break it down so when you went in and you you pictured it

and he he was you you were as you said you became him and you were in the boat and you're picturing the thing and how long Did you hold that Vision or the picture I don't I don't recall I just uh uh I will say during the day uh when I was driving the car or vacuuming or doing mundane things I would see the end result so you did revisit the picture yes uhhuh yes uh this is the reason that I wrote the article and I think it it's very very simple for everyone to Now

understand and I call it Spec s p c and what it means is Select it projected expected Collected and that's the form formula that I have used um well all my life uh I mean you know right now I'm not interested in material things I have everything I possibly want and I'm not hoarding or I'm not in the power or greed mode I like to use it in other areas of projecting um particular things that I want with people telepathy Etc and I'm still using this technique and it's still working this is why that it

was so Exciting because it's you know it can be as you say apply to anything it's kind of the the mechanics of of the Consciousness and and you know we we talk about on news for the soul we've talked about this kind of thing for years in many different ways and getting closer to really understanding what that means and what our potential is and what our true nature is is what we're always striving for here so one of the big questions that comes up I still want to Hear you know more of the linear story

I know I sort of threw you off off track there but I wanted to break it down the process because um you know the biggest question is how you stay out of the doubt creeping in okay you can only think of one thing at a time and there are several techniques until you get out of that mode I mean we're all in different emotions we know this but one of the things is that this rubber band Technique uh one woman said I'm always negative I'm around negative people and I work in an office negative and

I said let rub wear a rubber band and the minute that they're discussing something negative and you're now then uh associating with it uh uh snap your rubber band and get back to something positive and I said all of a sudden it becomes a way of life with you and everything that is uh I would say you would say um limiting or Negative I call it a learning experience I say oh you're just going through a learning experience and uh what you need to do after after it's over with I mean there's always a good

positive end result that you set this up you know you create your your future why did you set it up well okay if you think it's negative then it's a learning experience and then it can be over with now let's get on with life and be positive uplifting and so this is um one of the Techniques that you can use but remember you can only think of one thing at a time and you're in control of your thinking so if you let other people influence you then it's something that you need to address and so

the literally replace it with something yes yes so um well let's get back to your story I know I interrupted there because I was I've been dying to ask you so many questions so I'll try to you're not dying get through it you're interested In see I would correct you if you were in my environment you know okay I'm living to ask you questions good point this is a good point because we do need to pay attention to our thoughts and words everything we we say uh see everything is energy and we're we're projecting energy

in our thoughts and uh you know uh words become uh thoughts and so forth and you're creating that so that's a no no in my Book okay I stand and corrected okay so you've won the outboard motor now hubby is going hm you must have had his attention by then uh yes uh and so I saidwell what do we want to win next and uh I was so naive no kidding I was so naive and this book I mean uh Vincent Peele you know had a a radio show and he had all these books at

the in the library and I thought this man knows everything and so he was my mentor at that time and so I just went Ahead and okay he's right now what do we want to win and now as I said we had three young CH children and I said okay what would we wanted to and now I'm getting the children interested and so my daughter said she wanted a a new bicycle and I said well let's go ahead and see what contest is giving us giving away a bicycle now remember at that time uh there

were lots and lots of of promotional things and at the grocery store they had a bulletin board with Entry blanks you know all advertising their product Nestle tea and uh DelMonte ketchup Etc and they usually had um 25 words or less 50 words or less or what U just sometime just to name something and so we I I get all these little contests and then I look for now let's see what she wants a twin bicycle oh here uh Nestle's uh uh Nestle's chocolate has a contest and you have to name a pony and the

winner wins uh twin B twin swin bicycles and the pony so the three of us The children and I sat there and I said let's name a pony and let get Pamela and my daughter get her a bicycle and they got very serious you know playing a game and I said what should we call them and they were thinking I wrot wrot down uh Brownie and this and this and this and all of a sudden and he said U my son said well he bucks and so and it's you know it's the what call wrote

down him buck to and then he prances so we called them prance charming and we send in the Article prance charming and that's what one of her twin bicycle but we would again I um said there was something that um when we started this project uh one of the things Peele said uh don't tell anybody don't mention it to anybody because many people are negative and they can nullify your good energy and then you think it's your idea and uh there can be then it's not necessarily a failure but it's a a delay in results

if you inject any negative in your end Result and so that was very important to me we don't tell anybody anything we just play this game and she wants us win bicycle let's win it for her and now yeah we won the bicycle and then the next thing was what else do we want okay to make a long story short we um we won uh every year after I had what I called this formula um we would never um um uh when we demand when we uh planned our vacations uh we wanted to go to

Disney World so we want to trip to Disney World we want to go to the World's Fair in New York trip to the new we want trips we want you name it kid and I'll claim it because this is we became so proficient in this that I then locally was known as as using Witchcraft and I changed that and I said no no no it's not witch witchcraft it's wishcraft and anybody can do this and I was very very very um open when I would get letters or ma uh telephone calls uh People asking me

to help them and I would simply say well here the these are the rules here it is and that's when I wrote the book uh the name and claim at game with wuvs Win w and wuvs for wishcraft and that uh to date now probably over three million or so books I've sold and U that's it I mean that was the be really the beginning of it and then you know along the way so much fun I mean you could uh project Something and then you could anticipate and it was uh so delightful cuz on

my 40th birthday I had read that Paris France was a city of romance and love and light and so forth and I announced to my husband on my 40th birthday I want to be in Paris France sitting at a Sidewalk Cafe drinking wine with you and I WR wrote a a very offbeat article I had this down well this sense of humor that sometime doesn't make sense but what I wrote was I I would want I want To go to Paris France because I'm curious to find out if a pooped couple with three kiddos can

recapture the Rapture of Springtime ecstasy in their fat 40 frustrated years i s that that that was 50 words I send it off to two three different sponsors because uh many of the sponsors were offering the same prizes so I could use use my entry over and over I didn't care who gave me the trick I I saw the end result and that was it and so the First um oh the first indication that I'd won a prize was uh I um wound up winning a Hammond electric organ and we got a big ch charge

out of that because I told my husband I see this started in January and my birthday was going to be the first of June and in March I win this ham and electric organ and I said well I guess the judges read my entry and they decided that I needed physical therapy and uh playing the organ would be very good therapy and we just had a Fun thing with it and it was almost oh May sometime uh about the 15th of May when I got the notice that I was you know I was being considered

a priz you know usually they investigate you and see and to investigate they want to find out if you're related to the sponsor or to the judging firm and uh you know and then you have to have an affidavit for that because the contests and prizes sweeps Stakes Are on the very very on the up and up so I wouldn't have any qualms about entering because uh I mean they don't need any bad publicity so this went on and uh we went I went to Paris France and uh uh one of the things uh my

son went a trip to uh New York uh and then the dude ranches we went to I mean every year it was let's go someplace else and it was a family fun thing but the one did you win every time or did it Come in different ways or you know was it a general intention or did you win every Contest no I would I won every contest that I wanted every item I wanted uh but in the interim uh I was uh logging and writing a journal at that time uh one month I won a

prize every day every cotton pick and day it was you know it was um uh fried pans it was um uh appliances it was um uh musical instruments it was just different things Different things but I never lost sight of the fact of the big thing that I really wanted to win because not every contest I entered did I win I waited until I mean if I didn't win in one cont I would send that same entry in if it was you know creative writing I did this just on an ongoing basis and I did

this also with sweep Stakes uh when the when uh the World's Fair in 1964 and 65 they had the world's uh fair fair in New York and I stopped there for A couple of days cuz my son won a trip there with a Lindy our safire contest and that was fabulous and then we were on our way to Paris this was on my 40th birthday and while we were at the World's Fair uh the formica Corporation had built this fabulous home and at that time God that was $50,000 valued at $50,000 and I was so

looking forward to going um to uh France Paris that I uh never even went to that World Fair house And the only time I remember that they had it I came back and as contesting contesters do every every uh state or loc a local area has uh what we call um well they have uh contest clubs and I came and I belong to this Dallas Club and we called ourselves the compatriots and we were always sharing entry blanks and ideas and every time we we um would meet we would go around the room and each

one would stand up and say oh um this month I won a month supply of Of gas I won $50 grocery at this store I won this trip here Etc and we were competing I mean it was fun and we're there very very supportive well while I was came back and told the girls about my trip to New York and then to Paris and one gal said well did you see the formica house at the World's Fair and I said no I missed that completely it was so awesome and there were so many things we

were interested in uh no I didn't and she said well it's still running for Another two weeks and locally uh some of the builders are using formica and uh what you have to do is is go ahead and uh see the for home and sign there is a a signing there uh and then they send in all of the entries from around the entire United States to a judging firm and that judging firm then chooses the name and uh everybody I mean there were millions of of entries in it because uh the prize went on

I mean the uh the contest went on for a year during the World's Fair well I said well where where's a local place that I can enter and the g well this was in Garland which is about well actually about 38 miles from where I lived in Irving and I I thought well okay this was at night and I thought the next morning I will go and enter this um see this for Mah home sounded exciting a new home you know and uh my friends that lived locally I called up um I called up Jesse

and I said let's go over and register at um uh This for Micah house and she said no I just washed my hair and it was raining and drizzling and it was very overcast and really wasn't it was a gloomy day and then I called another friend no she's having her carpets shampooed no she can't go and you know she said it's already rigged and they know who they want and this was negative so I'm sitting there and all of a sudden it just felt like somebody pushed me in the car and the next thing

I know I'm down The highway and I'm in Garland and I find the house and I walk up to this for Mah house and get in there sit there and look at everything in it signed my name my husband's name and I thought okay yes now I want a new house this is the house I want after and I signed my husband's name my name took an entry blank went home that night and told my husband uh well our next prize is we're going to win this house and I said you Might as well start

uh doing a uh we want to do a schematic of the house and I want to design the interior and my husband's always been very very supportive so we sat there and we designed the house and it was a fun thing let's do this here the boys room let's have twin uh bathrooms here and everything we possibly wanted and this W and that was it the contest was over with I'd had my entries in Etc it took six weeks later and Probably it took that long because they were gathering boxes from the uh around the

country that had formica homes and displaying uh their FICA products and uh that night I am actually at the um uh club in Dallas and my husband called and said well somebody just called from New York and asked about the forah house and I said you gave him all the right answers he yes yes and uh that was it but let me back up for a minute uh this after I got Home from entering the contest and I was there by myself I was adamant that my husband had to come over and see that house

I said if they invest investigators we both need to know about their for Mica the new things that they're adding like molding and so molding was one of the main things that they were displaying because that was a new product they were plugging and do you know on Saturday morning I said let's get up and we're Going to um over to Garland and you're going to look at that house so when they call you can say yeah yes you saw it although I put it in my name but uh he what he would answer the

phone so this this is what happened he answered the phone he said yes my wife and I saw the formica home and we were impressed with this Etc and that was um an investigation over the phone and now this again it's another four or five weeks later and I'm still visualizing in The house uh now we're running we're driving around because we're going to put us on a lot uh we find a suitable lot and we're we're waiting I mean what's taking them so long and that's the morning my I woke up and I said

they're going to let us know we won today and the children were all going off to school and I said listen kids when you get home uh they're going to let us know we won this house for God's sakes act Surprised they expected and just you know this was a fun thing with me and uh my husband said well you sure and I said yeah they're coming today and he said well I think I'll stay home from work today and I said great so I uh he's in bed reading the paper I go to the

local bakery to get some Bakery goods and plug in the coffee pot we're waiting and waiting and waiting and it's 12 :00 it's 1:00 he said are you sure and I said yeah they We want it um they just have to let us know and about about 2:00 I got a phone call and they said uh Mrs hadsel we're so we're the president of for Mica and um and the um company that spons um sponsored it and um we'd like to come out and talk to you about something and uh but we want your husband

to be there and I assume he's working and I said well yeah but he took the day off well is he ill I said no he just happened to want to take the day off so he's here so They came they came 20 minutes later um and uh and now they talked and they were a little you know they you know made small talk and we had coffee and so forth and I was just as antsy as I could be you know I thought when are they going to get to this and you know I

had to act surprised cuz they expected so I will I squealed and you know like they do on on um on some of these shows that the Price Is Right when people get ecstatic about winning something cuz They expected it so that's how I won the house and yes many many many many trips my son's won trips to Europe and they were very very very uh oh well educational and it was just a lot of fun so then so oh sorry go ahead well after I had won everything you possibly could win I wrote the

book and then I um got on after that I was working with Jose and then I learned so many many many how powerful a mind is and had confirmation on what I was doing by by By projecting and uh selecting and projecting expecting collecting all of these things uh the Mind does this I mean when we're focused on something we're sending energy for that end result and if we don't interfere it has to come to us that's just a cosmic law as far as I'm concerned so everything is energy our thoughts are energy uh this

now fascinated me so I got another kick I would call it I Wanted to learn everything I could about selfawareness everything why am I here what am I supposed to be doing why am I doing this why am I do I have a hang up here and uh that's when I really got serious about selfawareness and uh finding out about myself so that went into another facet of a daring adventure for me and I used the same techniques when I want when I had an Interest in something so and that's kind of where I was

going with it um as well because you know it's a lot more than than frying pans that we're talking about here and um because the law as you as you say I mean it's got to be um applicable to anything right and and if you can do it and and some other people can do it we obviously are all able to do it oh yes definitely so the first question comes with like limits if any you know what Have you applied besides contest with this oh well um after I um worked with Jose and um

I've been then learned the program somebody said how many times did you uh uh sit through the lecture and I'd say 3 400 times and they think well you're an idiot and I said no I was this PR and every time he had a class or anybody had a class I would register and be there and greet him Etc and uh and do the promotions and things uh so I got to know him so well and then sit in every Every class on a for two three years so it would uh I mean I knew

it to such a degree that I could uh give it to your verbatim on what he what he presented in each class and that's getting to know the subjects now all then when I when I got into that area I then had U sort of notoriety because of My Success in entering contests and so I was invited to go to um different areas around the United States and I hadn't U really had that much I mean there were many Exciting places I wanted to see and so they would contact me and I would just sit

there and say I'd like to go to New York and uh do a workshop in New York and uh one of the um this was very interesting CU one of the soap opera uh Queens there what was her name I think Jun Graham uh in one of the Opera soap operas daily operas uh called me and said would I come to New York and uh present my program on self-awareness so I got to New York and then I wanted to Hey I think I would like to go to San Francisco I've never been there and

then I'd get a call from San Francisco I would see it as an end result and uh it worked for me in that area and then all of a sudden I am um as a child I had U sort of pushed back that area I was able to see in another dimension and everybody has this capability but it's dormant or they're frightened with it or they're talked out Of it which I was talked out of it as you my mother said you have a vivid imagination or you lie and that then I just let that

be but I could see people in another dimension and some were almost as solid as I was well this fascinated me and I took a lot of time trying to work out what's going on here and all of a sudden I could see people I could communicate and then I thought just a minute some people are coming with messages uh some People are aition uh when they're uh is something serious and then there are thought forms that people create I was listening to people I was discussing the this particular um frame that I was re

very serious with and all of a sudden I made a decision that many many people that are Lonesome or uh negative or whatever create a thought form and the thought form they work back and forth with this thought form but how can you prove Something like that so what I did was I projected that I would have this answer and the answer came when I went to England there's a place in England 34 BG grave Square it's called the spiritual Frontier and they um what they do is they train mediums talk to the dead and

so forth which I wasn't interested in but I thought I want to see if there's any credibility to this I went to England my husband went with me I sat in Seance Rooms for three weeks studying who's coming to seances what are people learning and then sitting there uh downstairs and talking and listening to them and that's when I made an evaluation and boy did I learn something there I learned that most people that went there they had um their loved ones had died and the medium was reassuring them them that their loved one they're

waiting for them Etc and they would Appear in this uh situation where I was and the medium would uh would convey the message to the people that were there and I thought thought form this is a thought form this is a thought form because from the information that I gathered but one day uh there was a and this would take me an hour to discuss because it's so long to get to to the end result I will say I was very surprised when a woman that I sat beside came in just as a uh just

uh just to Spend the afternoon she was on a tour and somebody told her to come by and see this place and I got a qu with her and the medium uh said is aerta here and uh she raised her hands I have a message from you from your aunt and uh she said uh uh your mother is with us with us now and you need to um take care of the body and so forth and this is held in this sance room and uh this girl just just was this conglomerated and after the medium

told her in essence that the Mother was dead uh so she she ran out of the room I went with her we went downstairs and she said why would people be that way and I knew she was then apprehensive and I said well why don't you call well she said my mother's fine I left my mother she's fine and I said well why don't you call her and U have confirmation cuz some sometimes these are idiots and are seeking sensationalism and trying to sort of soften the blow for her and she called There was no

answer and I said uh and she said well we live in the um apartment building and I said well why don't you call um one of your friends or who has a key to your mothers and they can uh here's the U have them call you here downstairs and we'll wait and see um your mother may may be um out walking the dog or whatever and she did she called the um man that took care of the building and his wife was a good friend of the mothers so the Wife went up there and opened

the door and the mother had died in her sleep so she called um our place in England and of course the girl had to go back home take care of the arrangements but her aunt had appeared in the Seance room and her do aunt was no longer in the physical so that really and truly got me to thinking and I came back and I did a lot of talk shows at that time because there were so many things happening and one of the one of the people I don't Even recall who heard me and said

hey I want to take you to uh Russia and I want you to present a paper on your ghost thought forms and ations because we have not had this kind of U investigation and and we'd like for you to join us there and it was a psychotronic congress held in uh 72 in uh Moscow and then I got to go to Russia and for two weeks and present my paper and well I mean this can go on and on there was one exciting Venture right After the other wow and I'm still having and I wrote

I wrote a book I called it um uh the um confessions of an 83 yearold Sage I wrote this two years ago and uh no h no holes are barred I uh every every story in there is a personal experience and then I have a technique that uh if you want to pursue it you can go ahead and this is what worked for me and that's that's where I'm at wow still every day there's The Wall Street Journal uh just contacted me last last week and want to do an article on uh my winning and

then the sun uh National publication you know on the news stands you know National inquire Etc there's a u publication called the sun uh I send them the spec article because I wrote to the editor and I said how does this grab you I've I've read enough Doom and Gloom on your front page how about something uplifting for these people that are going through A a crisis of U of not having jobs Etc and depressed and all this I says let's give them something to look forward to I'd like for you to publish this um

My article on spec two days later I got an email and said send me your picture and we're going to run the story uh this was a couple of weeks ago I haven't uh had any more confirmation that they wrote that their the article's out yet but um I'm certain that they'll put maybe they may Put it there in a little corner but I'm looking for the front page of that sun magazine so we can get this message out that hey wait a minute you kids aren't using your mind to its full potential shame on

you you have it there I there's so much in there I mean there's just so much that you can do instead of Doom and Gloom and pity party and a drama queen Etc you know so there you got it the I mean this brings up the question like like you mentioned the front page and we Kind of chuckled but I mean can you not use the the technique and make it happen well yeah that's what that's my end result kid that's my end result now and here I told the whole world but it hasn't happened

yet uh it takes you know I it's not instantaneous I'm not I'm not enough I mean I'm not saying uh that it's going to happen overnight but when it when you have enough energy on something then it has to come to you it it just it's just A law and that's that's all the only way I can explain it it's a law and I've done it so much so often with so many people uh I um I actually after I got off the lecture circuit which was real real exciting and we had so many case

histories that were phenomenal really phenomenal that happened I I could write 20 or 30 books but I encourage the people that had these experience write your own story but when I came back I decided now with my book sales initially I um had seen envisioned a a nice Center here in alvare on the outskirts of um Fort Worth I'm about I'd say 20 miles from Fort Worth and I was at love this Lake area and I had envisioned a center where people would come and take my classes that's what I wanted and when I got

booked royalties from a young man that um took my book and put it on direct mail he had a vision to go to India and he's he went to in we he had a vision I'd make a Million and he'd make a million well this happened and so I was able to to build a center out here and live here it's only 5 Acres it's very unpretentious because I just uh uh this is what I wanted so I had people from all over this cotton picking world I had the Ambassador from Trinidad come to spend

a week I had people every country came uh just from reading my book and wanting to spend time here for a week or or well most of them a week or two three 4 days to make it worthwhile and so that's what I continued to do for the last 10 years was just having people and sharing experiences but in the interim um I was invited to Peru and this was in I think 86 uh and I had planed and it's in my book how um I um went there and what what transpired and I I

thought well I'll be there a week well I was there two and a half months and I um was um counseling people from the embassy from all the affluent From all walks of life and U it was it well it's just been very very exciting and right now I'm spending my time doing blueprints for people and uh and uh sharing what their potential is some people can't even fathom uh when they came into this lifetime and they chose their parents incidentally and their life is divided into three areas uh the informative the uh productive and

the Harvest and so I do blueprints for People now and insightful that uh they can respond to or identify with so what is what is a blueprints purpose like they they kind of tune into where they're at now or um well uh it depends on their age and right now I seem to be getting people in the 50 years uh from 50 to about 59 and it runs in Cycles one one one month I had nothing but men men and sometimes 32y old uh men that Were writing for their Blueprints and uh they had that

information I did um Joe vel's blueprint and he was fascinated because I think uh I led I got on some things that he had had in his dreams and it was sort of Confirmation and so I've done I think two or three um interviews with him and we talk about Blueprints and U so uh that's U one of the things and my after I do blueprint and the people that have had it done I Get a lot of letters like a boy did you hit the nail on the head boy was I glad to know

this this is confirmation this makes me feel better oh this is the reason I don't like this person it all I mean I have 22 pages of nothing but accept about you it's all about you uh astrology we mentioned that that you were going to do like sort of an example on the air did you want to do that now before we do we have the time I've added time to the Clock I've added time so we're still live yeah well uh well yeah um I can I can do one sure sure I can tell

you how I go about setting them up I just okay I just need your name and U three people that you would like to know a little bit more about and then after I get it I sit here and I see okay let's see now what are you and what is your birthday and one of the examples would be uh something recent here That U let's say you were born in June on June the 2nd 1962 so you're um I add up the six and the two and I add up the N the the year

you were born which adds up to a nine and U then I add all these up and so it adds up to there's only one digit we always converted to 1 to n cuz this is Pythagoras's technique is what I use so this individual that I'm working with uh would would be the eight the executive and the Executive uh is a well they all have um missions I call it they have a mission that that they come in to do and this Mission uh runs through their entire life but in the meantime they have these

cycles that they um the as the executive uh you came here to exemplify the righteous use of personal power in order to achieve worthwhile goals and your mission is to use his power and control and your given strength to do this in other words uh to um convey to people Information that you find uh important or necessary for their soul growth and this is what you came in to do but your first from age 1 to 28 you were the six which is the June you were born in June six is the cosmic parent uh

number vibration so during one from birth to age 28 uh you're you're needing uh accepting to need to accept responsibility for others health happiness fair treatment and it's a time that you're to serve and There's a lot of right responsibility uh on you at that particular time and then you move into from age 29 to 55 you move into a two which is a diplomat and now you're more sensitive and you want to make peace by being willing to adjust and to adapt to others always ready to cooperate uh you can do better with a

partnership at this time and because um The two which is a diplomat which is the number that you're in at this particular period is uh it stands for Partnerships and uh closely related to other people and again it's an uplifting uh time for you to be doing this and then from age 56 to as long as this person wants to live and you choose the time you die and not maybe what you want to die of but you actually know when you're going to Make a transition that's a nine and this is the humanitarian vibration

not an easy vibration because now you have to set an example of the real ation and you are getting to be very very spiritual and then you're learning that all life forms are interdependent and you have to cope with things so it takes a lot and lot of understanding but uh the bonus on this is and uh sometime it can become earlier but if you have a nine or a seven in any Of your Cycles uh you can experience epies and when these happen and uh when I have feedback when people call and say this

happened to me and I well you just had an epiphany let's talk it through and this is uh when beings appear to you and you can see through them and of course uh Jesus I mean the Catholic Church actually has a day a holy day where they have the Epiphany when um Jesus appeared to um some of his Disciples and so what you're doing then is you're now in a spiritual realm the spiritual connection uh on that vibration and that's when oh it's it's a such a wonderful Wonder for you because it um it well

how can I explain that I get all excited when uh the these people tell me well this is what happened and I said well then you're just doing the right thing and you're where you're supposed to be Not to be frightened and um you're being you know finding a little bit more out about the spiritual realm so that's in essence what what what your blueprint is about and it's U something that um you need to look at and sometime you can you have your own answers I'm not not saying that you're not getting your own

answers but um it's always good to have confirmation so so how did you I mean this is a A this is a a much more diverse then sort of Law of Attraction what you focus on expands kind of thing how did you get into sort of the intuitive realm um everything that we want to P do is is desire desire is a criteria for everything when you have a desire and you project the desire and you can use the spec to do this I I have the desire to know more about myself I have the

desire to know I mean To be uh in the presence of a person place or thing that will teach me me or demonstrate this desire of knowing myself and that's why I went to Peru really because I didn't even want to go that I did not uh project that that was one thing I did not project but I did project that I would be in a place or with people where I could learn more about myself and this is what higher intelligence decided Well you got to go to to Pro kid because when you get

over There you're going to have so many experiences that you're not even going to question uh all these aspects about self-awareness that you wanted because I also when I was in Peru I also had a a formula to do this blueprint that I'm using today I've done the blueprint for 30 years but also when I got there I had was very very insightful and had more material more information that was given to me and U that's what made it uh so so so exciting when these people would come To me and I'm talking about the

affluent they'd come in their armored cars and uh they were paranoid over there uh they'd have these um people come in their guards come in and uh the the entrepreneur that uh invited me initially he heard me uh when I was one of the key speakers with uh uh Jose after um I went into my own U doing my own lecturing and workshops Etc Jose and I remained close friends and uh periodically I would be Invited to be one of the key speakers at this International Convention and this young man from Peru was there and

heard me lecture and he was uh he was adamant that I come to Peru and spend time with them and I said no I have no desire to go there that's not on my schedule not interested and continued to uh try to discourage him and I just let it go and it was two years later After I did I had um he met me is um the the morning that um I'm busy here and I'm wanting to go to Sedona and find out hey there's got to be some good information there with vortexes and the

people that are frequenting this place and that was my U goal but instead he called and out of the blue he called and said you've got to be here uh by this particular date and uh I'll pay all your expenses I will send you to mataichi I what what do you want what Else do you want but you have got to be here and something intuitively said must go and I said well my passports in order call me and uh we'll talk tomorrow uh so that this is all in my book and I don't want

to give you a book review but that's what happened I understand what you mean about Peru though I I can tell you I've never been the same since that one either it's yeah quite dramatic wow um did you spend the night in the hotel up In maspi uh oh uh yes and in the Middle with my experience was beyond the sort of you know uh tourist areas we went into um the middle of nowhere to check a KIRO and I uh filmed UFOs and all kinds of bizarre communication going on and Cusco oh yes fabulous

amazing yes amazing and um but now this all of this conversation that we're talking about this whole I mean it just been an Amazing adventure in your life but where's the limit what else have you applied these laws to like have you changed some something physically within yourself you know healthwise or you know where are the limits that we can apply this to that you've experienced if there are any I don't know I'm 85 years old and I have um when I have a physical challenge because we're subjected to the environment to the Pollution uh

to other energies I don't like to I love my space here because I'm by myself and I love being by myself but there are times that I need to get out in the public and when you're out in the public and this is not paranoid you're picking up energies subtle energies from other people and it's not your your um situation you're just open and you're picking up and then you have to rationalize and analyze who does this belong to me it doesn't belong to me and I went through that phase where I knew that uh

if someone was thinking about me and they had a physical challenge I would pick them up mentally and I would have a challenge and I would think it was mine and I would call them or they would call me and I would say what's the matter with your need my gracious and then they would tell me I mean this was their problem not mine but that's the way energy works and so you have to be Very Discerning and very very tuned in and uh put an or oric field around you on a continuing basis to

protect this this ball of energy you don't need all those outside influences sometime you open yourself and it has to be reinforced so it's um been very very interesting I don't ever applied this law to um you know a physical challenge that came up for you that was yours uh yes I did um I had um uh I have a Doctor from another dimension that comes to me and tells me what I'm supposed to be doing and uh I I wrote a whole story about that one and uh it uh it worked yeah it worked

I I made um this physical doctor that I was having challenges uh real real um uh challenges of elimination and uh urinating and so forth and uh when I got this physical doctor and he said well You have to now you've let this go you have to go to a uh phys uh you have now my spiritual doctor says you have to go to a pH physical doctor to have it uh balanced because you're still in a physical and I didn't care for that but he says one thing I want you to know everything's going

to be fine even at that age I was 69 uh he said uh always throughout this entire ordeal you have a sense of humor and the sense of humor with this Okay I go to this doctor and he does um uh takes X-rays and things and I come back for his evaluation and he tells me that um I had this mambas tumor growth there in between uh well someplace in in the anatomy it had to be removed but um there's uh it looks like there it's cancerous because U there's so much other uh uh indications

around it and he couldn't perform a surgery I had to go to an oologist or orology or whatever a doctor that uh uh treated cancer so I Was and over in Dallas I went to this uh surgeon got into his office now I I take along my uh my U blueprint my pictures that he took of me X-ray pictures I get there and this young doctor uh greets me and he's got these pictures up now he's trying to uh show me and he said see this Mass here and I said is it a boy or

a girl and he looked at me and he said what do you mean I said is it a boy or a girl well of course then immediately thought I'm Having mental problems I was trying to be do a joke you know and I I said he he said Mrs hadel this is serious and I said lighten up lighten up don't you ever read the national inquire space aliens are coming down impregnating us all the time and I mean he looked at me like wow and I said joke time joke time now this is how stupid

it was but I made this whole thing into a joke an absolute joke and then when he said to me um you're going to have to consent to have Blood test I mean uh blood because um at your age uh we have always problems of um uh losing too much blood and we have to sometime transfusions I said well I'm glad you told me that because I can stop the bleeding and he said what I said well you've heard of Mind Over Matter see this is a Technique we got we were given in the Sila

training mind over matter and I well I'll stop the bleeding for you and now he knows that I'm crazy he Know he thinks there's got to be something mentally wrong with me and I said 'y yeah I will and then he Saidi do this in U well we'll set it up in about let's say two or three weeks I said no you won't you're doing this was a Friday and I said you're doing this Monday morning I said I have to be at a convention in bero in three weeks and I'm one of the key

speakers and I can't let Jose down and now again he said I can't do this and I said don't just sit There get on the telephone and make it happen he gets on the phone because he needs another doctor in surgery and the anesthesist and uh the hosp the operating room Etc and within 15 minutes he has me scheduled for Monday to have surgery because I want to GI over with and that was it and then I get in there and Monday uh morning I spend the night there they have a a hotel there at

that particular hospital my husband and I and I get in there and uh when I wake up From all of the uh surgery anesthesist I've got the um the anesthesist and I've got the other doctor and the nurses all and my husband standing around my bed and this anesthesist said I just want to know one thing how did you stop the bleeding he said you didn't bleed and so anyway these are things like like I don't know what limits you have or what limits you put on yourself I don't know but when I met Paul

twitchel Uh have you ever heard of eken car the ancient scientist okay I knew Paul personally and uh when he came I never solicited him he came to my home to meet me and so did Dr Joseph Murphy powers of the subconscious mind they came to uh Irving uh when I lived in Irving to meet me and so I had nothing to do with it but I was to learn from these people and I think that's how it was set up but anyway uh Paul was saying that um his um his guide or his mentor

or Whatever uh was in the Himalayas and he was 300 years old and while he was sitting there with my husband and my friend Ellen and uh when she brought him to meet me that night because he was going to have a lecture in Dallas and I wasn't going to go I I had no intention of going to his lecture cuz he was charging $50 for 3 hours and I said that's ludicrous not going and uh when he got off the plane he said uh he want he wants to meet me And she brought him

to my home this was at 9 at night and uh while we're sitting there talking I'm looking and this tall being is standing beside him and uh I'm uh you know I I still think well is it the light that's forming something you know like clouds you can see uh designs and clouds Etc Is My Mind Playing Tricks and finally Paul looked at me he said uh something seems to be bothering you and I said yes I I have this very imagination and I See This Tall Man Behind beside you and he's barefooted and he's

smiling I said wow my imagination is going uh rampant tonight and he laughed and he said no that's revisar Taurus and um if he bothers you I'll send him away so this was not a thought for him it was actually uh he came by his own relation and we got a big charge out of that and so uh he came uh I I knew Paul there for quite a while until he made his transition and he told me uh when he Was going to make his transition and why uh and that was it I mean

you know so what else is new now I guess that's always what comes up like if we can if we're able to heal the small thing or you're able to do any kind of Mind Over Matter thing which boy which is the whole others series of shows and you're able to control your blood flow then why do we age at all why do we have to keep you know popping in and out going through all this bother of Starting over again uh because there were so many many many people that have this concept and it's

taken presidence all of this will change uh our lifespan uh should um well I can get into the metaphysical we're in and out of our bodies on a continuing basis and uh this can go on for 20 or 30 hours honey if I get into all of the things that I have experienced and observed and learned it's Just can't end our we can't end our time together on a cliffhanger like that without me inviting you [Music] back we have to do this again well we'll think you know whatever whatever okay but I have it all

I I've written this I have it all in my book it's it's just like a book review that I'm giving you well I'll tell you but it's fun being able to ask you questions in the Moment and share you with our listeners who all are going to love you I'm sure so I I would love to have you back and we'll talk I'd like to talk specifically right where we left off just now about metaphysical reality and mind over matter okay well I don't know everything all I can do is share my personal experiences and

then you can discern and and take it from there and some it sounds like you've had a few and I I want to hear about them for one so that What's beautiful is some people can identify with it relate to it and that's what's exciting they're not crazy they don't have a brain tumor they're able to to see this detect this and know the things and it's not fortune telling and it's it's completely in a different realm okay okay well on that note I am so grateful for our time together today I can easily see

how any film crew would be filming for eight hours and and still want more no doubt so I really Appreciate you being here and we'll get you back on really soon okay okay then fun and Ang thank you take care and if you've missed any of this show news for the soul get ready it's time for news for the Soul lifechanging Talk Radio from the uplifting to the Unexplained join us as we celebrate 11 years of empowerment broadcast becoming the number one lifechanging talk radio show in the World according to Google AOL MSN YouTube and

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this exciting event go to www.mt events.com at MBT events.com or call 74451 4987 for details here all of our previously aired broadcasts of news forth Soul online at news forthe soul.com and let's get back to the [Music] Show and we're live I'm Nicole this is news for the Soul lifechanging Talk Radio from the uplifting to the Unexplained can't imagine not having that covered in the next conversation last week on Sunday we introduce you to one Helen hsel who is an amazing living example of really living and being the Law of Attraction for many many years

she has uh won every contest she's entered and applied the This to her life in many ways uh in much deeper levels beyond that so today we're kind of having part two of the discussion where we left off hopefully we'll start there um let's welcome her on and start the fun Helen welcome back to news for the soul I'm here Hi how are you today great great I was just listening uh to your entree and it reminded me of Peru you must have a tape of Peru you know where the whistles oh and just before

you got on the Air yes i' I've actually got some very interesting audio clips from Peru that you didn't hear there yet but uh we did some interesting work there in uh doing um reliving some of the processes in the sacred sites with the shaman Bridge Jorge Lis Delgado and we had amazing experiences over there but uh yeah it's definitely been a strong influence on me ever since that moment moment of experiencing Peru was very powerful did you visit the egg lady While you were there no who's the egg lady yes uh I was of

course I was there two and a half months and so I was able to get into uh places that U not the ordinary person can get into because I I wasn't doing really psychic work I was doing self-awareness classes uh but my the the entrepreneur that sponsored me um introduced me to a lot of interesting people and one was the egg lady and uh she is the Healer There in Lima and when I went there uh what she requires well when you call her she requires that you bring a dozen fresh eggs uh directly from

the market and when you get there you're lay you're laying on a cot and uh she puts her takes an egg and runs it over your body and then um she just uh is sort of mumbling and whatever it is and then she breaks the egg in front of you and uh sometime there's black in it sometimes There's blood in it sometimes there's just like go really and then she deposits that in a container and you're watching this whole procedure and then she'll tell you well um someone is given evil thoughts to you and it's

concentrated in your stomach or uh in your throat or whatever and she continues to do this until uh the eggs are clear you know where there's no more of this uh information anything that's negative in it and then uh you get up And you see all this EG these eggs and the gok and so forth now you have a clear egg and then you you give her the money for what you think it's worth donation and then you're healed and then you walk out and you feel great well wow yes yes yes and so when

I uh when I was doing uh the workshop over there one of the students uh highly recommended her and said she'd never gone to a doctor because the egg lady could heal her and I thought this I've got to see so we Made an appointment and I get over there and I have my dozen eggs and I get into her inner sanctum and I'm about L to lay on the C and she looks at me and she said you know what I'm doing why are you here and I first a minute I was a little

startled and I said uh no I'm sincere and she said are you trying to um disprove me or are are you um here monitoring me or whatever and then I Said no no well then I realized you know she has tremendous sense sensed that I wasn't legit and I said no I was actually here for a healing and she said you don't need a healing you know what I'm doing well then we finally I established the report and I found out that um her mother did this her grandmother did this in the Villages and that's

the way they made their income was doing this and then I also realized when you're in the Presence of someone that has tremendous abilities you know Mind Over Matter abilities um what you're seeing as she's depositing these eggs into this thing uh she's creating thoughts and then you can something like the sacred in India you know that um uh illusion is what it is and so illusion was what actually what she was doing there were no to my to my knowledge there wasn't any black in an egg or blood in an egg or anything it

was just illusion and she was projecting It to you and you could see it and so I thought now that's interesting but I I said no no no I said I just came here to meet you and um and I'm glad that you're able to help people to help themselves cuz a lot of these things are psychosomatic and eventually they'll be healed anyway so if you can convince them that they can do this and then more power to you I'm so glad I met you and then we left on a good note so that was

great Wow you found that there was was it all thought form was there any you I mean did you feel it was beyond just changing thoughts anything legitimate going on physically with it uh no no no h no this is all illusion this is all illusion and uh because she immediately knew that I mean you know she broke an egg uh I would not I mean you can't put the let's say put the bull over my eyes I've been in I've been in this long enough to know uh what people can do and Yes several

times I've been fooled in this research that I do I'm not um naive I'm not a skeptic I just observe and I want to understand and I discern discern discern in every area that I get into uh while I was there also I was um very um well I could say sought after because this entrepreneur that invited me um own the radio station the discotek and uh was very very wealthy and he had influential friends and so these people would come for a um uh I took the tarot Cards and you know doing the tarot

has nothing to do with uh what you pick up when you're reading for people you're sitting beside them in their all and you can read him I mean so what else is new I think everybody has this capability but they don't realize it and so that's in essence what I was doing and then most of the people uh spoke uh English and there were a few of them that um uh I couldn't communicate with um on this basis but when I first got Into Peru uh my friend that uh sponsored me had a a morning

coffee for me where all his wealthy friends came and as I was standing there uh a woman that was an artist and originally came from uh from I believe from Russia came in and embraced me and start sobbing and said she was so glad to see me again and I kind of looked at her and then all of a sudden it rang a bell and I said uh were we nuns together in Spain And she said yes yes yes I never thought I would meet you again and she said while you're here I'm going to

interpret for you I speak seven languages and uh you're going to be here for several months and we're really going to have an interesting uh exchange of ideas and uh from that point on we were we were were hooked together continuously uh many times I was invited to very wealthy homes on the outskirts Of Peru they would come in their chauffeur limousines with their guards and then take me on the premise and I was uh I saw some things there that would just Boggle my mind uh some of these wealthy land owners had their own

bakeries they had made service and one one particular F family that I spent several days with and she was very impressed she wanted me to stay there as her house guest for two months which I declined but the morning I got there um She had U her bake her her maid came in with a loaf of bread and she said he made it just for me that I could cut it and he made it with love and and it was it was a fun fun thing uh even if I couldn't communicate with some of their

their language I could still uh you know pick up their energy and it was all very very um satisfying comforting rewarding and when I was there there was riding on the streets and curfew but I never I never was Apprehensive even when I was in Cusco and you know you would look go on the streets and you were told never to wear jewelry or uh purses or anything they would cut off your ear or cut off your finger for a a ring or at least that's what I was told but I never I mean you

put the um uh protective light around you you don't worry about this so I would just go where I wanted to go do what I wanted to do and even one of the the um um one of the young men that uh Was the desk clerk at the whole the five star hotel that I stayed in in Cusco uh he just couldn't believe that I would go out on my own without a guard he insisted that somebody go with me and I said no no I wasn't concerned about this so it was it was a

an interesting thing and then uh when I went into Cusco I could see through walls when I went into the um monasteries and were you know when the um uh when the Spain Spaniards came over and took all the Gold from the perubian and um brought over their belief systems that U if you didn't believe in Jesus and and their Concepts that uh you would be annihilated and it was a a very very sad period in history because of the power and greed mode in the name of Jesus or in the name of the uh

religion that they believed in but it was all greed and power and it was a very sad sad situation I I just would go around and Observe didn't make a big fuss about it and um one time we were invited uh I was invited to a home uh one of the women there that is very very very psychic and uh she worked for the government uh I spend a day with her uh she said she would lay out maps of Peru and then run her fingers uh through the map big big big uh table they

had for her uh and she could tell when there would be earthquakes and she would warn the people in that particular area to move Out of that area because there were always underlining earthquake or earthquakes there and U she wasn't she was very unpretentious and then while we were there I also uh was invited to a private home where this man indicated that um there was a man in the environment there that claimed he was from the planet trone TR r u n e I've never heard of that planet and he said the man would

come and he would write uh in any Language that uh he wanted to write he said he was uh Diversified he was intelligent and uh the man that claimed we went to his home uh as uh guests there and with four or five of the other followers of this man that came from trone and I said well I'd like to see him and uh the man that owned the home there said well he's not available and he comes in and out and we never know when he's here and he was going on and on about

how important he was and how he Would um write um information and then he started showing me what the information was and it was in a different language that I couldn't um read couldn't even understand but one of the gals that was there interpreted uh translated it for me and it just sounded like our Bible you know there was nothing profound you know the Ten Commandments do unto others as you would you know uh it was it was all positive all positive and he said he claimed that If we practiced uh these principles there would

be no more Wars there would be no more illness and he came in peace and he was going to uh start out in Peru and so I thought well this is very interest but I I said don't you have a picture of them uh what nothing and the man he said no he you can't take his picture and I said can you describe him and he said well yes I can describe them and then something else happened and I was sitting beside Uh the woman that U uh does the reads the maps and all of

a sudden I said uh do you see this man in the corner that's looking at us and she said no but I can feel them and I said I said well I can see him um I wonder if he's a thought form or is he you know comes from his own valtion which sometimes you call an epiphany and uh he was just there smiling and in a minute uh he smiled and he faded away and she said well I felt uh tremendous energy and I knew it Wasn't with any of the five of us that

were in that room and then I asked our host I said uh can you describe the man that uh you claim comes periodically in and out and writes all these things and uh I said well let me describe him and I described him and he said oh you saw him and I said well did you see him a little while ago and he was preoccupied with something but things like that just fascinate me and what fascinates me more is when someone can see what I see Without sitting beside me because if you sit beside me

then you can Pro probably see the same thing that I can so I want to remove myself completely and then you're on your own so what do you see I me that that always intrigued me well yeah when you're getting validation like that and you're having your own direct experience with it you know that's that's so powerful that's like about a billion questions I want to ask you of course but you know we don't Have time for a billion so well that was per that was part well there were so many other things uh I

Christmas day I was at a mental institution um uh one of the um women that came to for readings husband was in there and I uh her guide I mean his guide appeared while I was uh while I was um talking to her and he wanted to get out of this uh institution and so I didn't say anything anything and she said I said well why Don't you release him and then you can you lead he can lead his life you can lead your life and that's it and she said uh well uh he's still

I'm still fearful of him uh uh I will have my driver pick you up and we'll take you to this uh to visit him Sunday which was Christmas and I said okay she said he's not even going to know we're coming or anything I just want you to observe him study him and then if you tell me it's okay then I will release Him because he'd been there three four years and uh the rules in Peru you know when you're in a mental institution your um funds are frozen and uh she was without money and

they were very very wealthy and so it wasn't details that you're not interested in but as I'm walking up this is a private uh mental institution as uh my driver and she are driving were drove up and we're coming to the door to open uh the guard is Opening the door and this man comes hurrying toward me and he comes over to me he said you're getting you're the one that's going to get me out of here and I said well why don't we talk so that that's always oh always always interesting you know uh

when I don't um really and truly set anything up uh one other experience that you're just going to I mean this is just so far off the wall it's unreal I wanted to levitate and this was so important to me My God if Thomas aquinus 240 lbs can levitate surely I can levitate I mean it's just I want to levitate and I would meditate and then I would think well today I can levitate and I would walk get in the tub and think maybe I could walk on water and nothing happened you know and this

was so funny cuz my husband kept saying you're an idiot and I said no I'm going to levitate and I'm not going to let go until I do well I uh at that time I was on lecture tour and I Going up was up in Chicago and I had just done a talk show and I'm getting ready to at night to um have a um what I just call an an introductory lecture uh most of these people wanted to be winners and actually what I did the first night was uh do a book review on

the name it and claim it game and then I would say if there's anyone that wants to know more about themselves and then Saturday and Sunday I would do workshops and anyway I was just getting Ready to do my program uh when um the SP man sponsored me he says there's an old man that wants to talk to you now I want to tell you something I had never mentioned to anyone on the air or anybody knew that I had this desire to levitate except myself and my husband there only two people that knew but

this old man approaches me and said honey you don't want to levitate and I said what he said uh you don't want to levitate and I said why why do you say that he Said well while they were on the talk show uh your guides told me to um approach you you don't want to levitate young lady he said it's a nuisance he said I do this and uh I'm living in the country and I have my dog and I like to walk the woods and in the morning when I levitate he said it's such

a nuisance I have to hang by a tree until I finally am grounded but if you're going to insist on it he said pretend like you're uh waving in water you know with your Hands uh paddling in water like you're swimming and he says that's the only way you can be balanced uh when you're off the ground and he was so serious and I thought well I said thank you for that information and I appreciate it then he walk fed off and uh the uh man that sponsored me what was that all about he was

so insistent on talking to you and I said oh we'll discuss it later and then I I didn't but then I came back home and it was about a month or two later uh one Morning uh I can't describe it it was a feeling of euphoric it's it's such a feeling that uh uh you can do anything but I decided I was going to go to the little chapel right where I lived in mos cleus in in Irving they had this um Catholic Chapel which is about two blocks actually from where I and I decided

to go there and to meditate and I got out of the car and was feeling just so all of a sudden I'm in I'm levitating about I'd say about 3 In off the ground well there's a path that goes down and there steps but there weren't any railings there was nothing to hang on to and I am petrified here I am a a little above and I'm wobbling and I dis Hur into and would you believe I uh paddled like I would if I was swimming until I finally got to the front of the church

and they had a pillar there and I put my my arms around that pillar and I said okay enough Already I'm talking to anybody that can hears me in the Unseen World and then a bunch of students at down go to the college there I walked up and I'm still there hanging that post that was so ridiculous and then I got into the chapel and I says okay take it away from me I don't want this [Music] anymore decided I didn't need to levitate but it's why see to me life is Either a daring Adventure

or nothing and I'm telling you I would get in with people or places or things that um each time I came home from a a lecture tour I'd be on maybe two three weeks my son who was going to college that time and my husband and my son would say don't tell that any anything until I get home I want to hear [Music] it because it was always it was always so different so different so I I'm so Pleased that my guides or maybe it's my vivid imagination I can't prove anything all I can say

is I'm so pleased that I was a able to um have all these experiences and most of them are uh to me are very credible uh to me actually happened and there's no logical explanation except people will say well uh you're lucky or it's a coincidence or it's a happen stance and I don't believe in that anymore I don't believe in coincidences there's just no way because There were just too many things that happened uh when I was working for Jose's PR uh he um wanted me to go and open the Chicago area and I

said um I don't want to get on a plane I'm not that qualified uh to to handle all this get yourself another girl he would say to me we'll talk about it and uh that night I came home and I said said you know he thinks I'm going to go to Chicago and find a suitable meeting place put ads in the paper for Him I'm not going to do it I don't want to do it I don't need to do it and my husband uh who was very grounded and really and truly we were married

60 years so uh I think he needed me and I needed him but anyway he said you've taken the Cil classes why don't you practice what you preach because I didn't uh really care enjoy being on a plane I had some kind of a some kind of a phobia over I just didn't care for it and so I became uh hurt actually because He's siding now with Jose and Jose left that for back home and I'm supposed to now make all these arrangements to go to to Chicago well that next morning after a night of

acting like a child and pouting I said there my husband was off to work kids were gone and I said okay if I'm supposed to go to Chicago somebody better help me if this is supposed to be that Jose goes in there and um and shares his experiences then I need some help Here uh I swear it was not 10 minutes later when the phone rang and it was Mrs had says yeah I'm Mary green and that's her name and she said um I uh read an article in pageant magazine a publication that's no longer

uh available but uh there was an article that I WR co-wrote with someone about entering contests and she said I read about you in this um article I'm not interested in contesting but you said one paragraph about Jose and how you Stop the bleeding with mind over matter I must meet this man where can I attend one of his classes and I said well uh uh I'm supposed to uh come to Chicago and set up a seatable meeting place and do ads in the paper and have a room full of U of people for him

when he comes oh no you don't have to do that she said I'm a Sho represent I represent uh a shoe company here and uh I make all arrangements for various companies that come in here for Conventions so I'll find you I'll get your room free and uh I will put ads in the paper and what else can I do for you you don't have to come here and I'm sitting there I'm saying oh my God this this is what happened all the while I worked for that man things were happening that I was amazed

absolutely amazed and she set up all of this for me we didn't have to do a Thing it happened the same way when I was to go to Detroit uh there was a man that volunteered I never even said anything all I did was telepathically communicate and I would say somebody someplace has got to help me and the phone would ring and there would be an answer now we can't do this on a physical we're having help from other G from other Realms that's the only way I can explain it Logically cuz this happened on

a continuing basis was there a lot of Mind Over Matter work in the silver training um it was probably one of the most fantastic uh mental training classes you could have at that time because you know in the 40s and the 50s everything was the work of the devil uh this was U uh some lot of the the newspapers wouldn't even let us put ads in their paper because it was the work of the devil and So there was difficult y uh advertising it and Jose was so low keyed and he knew uh in fact

um when I start working for him and uh uh he says don't tell him this don't tell him this uh one night uh he was talking and uh we had about I'd say about 40 or 50 in that particular class but I would sit in back of the room because uh I would always have to be there you know to uh sign people in and to answer questions and to have the coffee pot ready during breaks Etc and I Would sit there and I would be amazed at all the people that were around Jose that

were not in seats I mean from other dimensions they were all all just as far as I could see these were beings of people and one night I'm sitting there and I'm looking because here's some people now that I hadn't really seen that are about I'd say 12 14 feet tall skinny long long just longlook people and they're all uh just standing there behind Jose during the break a little Woman comes up to me and she said I'd like to ask you something she said um I've uh seen in these other dimensions uh as far

as back as I can remember but she says to night I'm seeing these tall people that are 12 or 14t tall I've never seen those before uh do you see this and I said well I'll ask Jose so I got to Jose and I said well I said um uh we're seeing something different tonight here this little old lady in me and he said oh he said They're from Venus and then he walked off so I told her I said they're from Venus and she said oh I said why did you come here and she

said uh I U heard uh about him we were he was uh we had a radio talk show that day and uh she said I heard and my guides told me that I had to come and to meet him and to take his class that's how she got there but uh look those were things like so what else is New you know I keep thinking that that I mean you either never shut yourself down from these experiences or you must have had some really dramatic things happen before all of this came about you know when

you were a child yes yes uh at um the age of I think a three or four uh when um I was born a Catholic and raised a Catholic and everything was church Etc and my grandmother had this huge picture of an Angel and she always talked about the Angels you know taking care of me Etc and then when my granddad became so ill with asthma and he was on his deathbed uh she said the Angels were going to come to take him and so the funeral I mean he was in the bed and all

the family was surrounded with the family and I'm just a little kid playing with my cousins and nephews and nieces in the back and the old the older people uh were in the house and the priest had just come to perform um uh extra motion You know last right but um we were as grandchildren we were called in to uh say goodbye to Granddaddy and so we all went in and grandmother was sitting in her chair and she said the angel were coming to get him and I assumed this Angel was coming to get him

and so after we went out I insisted that I wanted to be in the room uh to watch the angel come and get him and my mother couldn't control me I mean I was creating a scene and she said all right you can stay in Here but she said don't you say a word well I get in there with all the grown-ups and they're at the foot of his bed and and the priest is there and all of a sudden through the wall about I'd say eight or nine people walk through the wall and they're

kind of elderly different ages and uh my granddad who is on the bed and you can just gasping sits up in bed smiles and then gets up and they Embrace him and he walks through the wall and While he's walking through the wall wall he's laying on the bed and now there's two grandpas there you know for this little four-year-old or threey old or whatever I was and uh now I'm seeing that uh he's walking through this wall but he's laying there well this sort of perplexed me and after we went out and everybody's crying

I told my mother I said well he I said um grandpa didn't have an angel a lot of people came he went with A lot of people but no angel came to take him and she couldn't understand because you know I expected to see this Angel and was rather disappointed and uh she said well my mother always said there you go again with a VI imagination or you're lying don't tell anybody they'll think you're crazy so I squatched all that I I really squatched all that and yet even when people came I'd say uh if

I went to mass you know we had to Go to mass every morning before we went to school and there would be a funeral there and I I kid you not here would be this casket and this man would be in the funeral but he'd be sitting there looking out at the audience uh there were so much I couldn't understand any of this and I just sort of thought I'm not going to tell anybody they'll think I'm crazy they may even put me in that crazy place that um one of the neighbors had been in

For being crazy and I thought if I keep saying that that's what they'll do with me so I never I never discussed any of this I just let it go and then when I was 17 years old I had romatic fever and I was in bed and really incapacitated and at that time there wasn't anything they could do except bed rest and linament and then penicillin about that time came out and uh the local doctor would come and U monitor me and give me a shot of penicillin well one morning uh He came and he

said he can't do that anymore because on my heart uh now I've uh uh there's a valve that's open my heart is enlarged leakage of the heart and so forth um she's allergic to it can't give her any more aspirin and he says we're just going to have God take over and uh that and I heard him uh and um while he was discussing it with my mother and so that night and I was really you know if you've ever had romatic fever it jumps from one uh area To another it is utter Agony and

uh they prayed and so forth but nothing nothing seemed to help it but that night uh I got very angry and I said okay I want to die I'm ready to go I don't want to be here and be a burden any longer and if I can't get up and do anything I'm going to die and that's when this being appeared and he said you can't he said uh you came in here to do something and you haven't started yet you're Healed and when said I was healed and I I then uh then he left

and I shouted to my mother I said come in here come in and she came in I said this man was here and he said I was healed and she said oh you you just had a dream so she threw back the covers and my uh ankles were still swollen and my arms were swollen and she said see you just had a good a nice dream you're going to be fine you're going to be fine and the next morning I jumped out Of bed and I Saidi going back to school I'm Healed and uh she

looked at me and she said uh uh well we're no no we're going to call the doctor and see what he thinks and he came by uh later that afternoon and checked me over and he said well he said U I guess it take uh it's taken its course she's perfectly all right let her go back to school and that was um one of the experiences I had at 17 so you mentioned the um excuse me you mentioned the levitation which I'm assuming you didn't do anymore no I didn't do anymore did you have any

other kind of similar experiences uh with you know teleporting or going through solid things or you know some of the other things we've heard stories about over the years I can't right thought that that I can't remember I can't think I can um I do know that um when I had something People prior to my knowledge of me knowing anything about it things would happen and I always attribute it to uh my U Guardian Angels uh appreciating uh or like clapping of hands or whatever I was doing if I was doing something like a reward

you know uh the these things were very prevalent while I was out on the lecture circuit absolutely I mean some of the things that happened to me uh would just well I I would I would squeal with Delight because they were uh unexpected uh one case in example I was um June 1st was my birthday and I'm out in some place in California and I'm to had this um workshop on uh Saturday I believe it was and Friday um I went to bed that night and all of a sudden I hear a Born Free that

is the song Born Free you know and I'm in this hotel and I'm thinking it's in the middle of the night and what is that um where's that coming from so I go out on the balcony And I thought well maybe uh the room next door was playing music but it was coming in bornfree the whole song and uh what I had done uh the week prior to my birthday I had asked uh do I have any Karma do I have any balancing to do uh that I'm not aware of uh please show me if

I do because you know sometime when I'm doing charts I pick up hey you're supposed to to balance this and at that time I wanted to know if I still needed To balance something well uh all I knew uh after I heard Born Free I thought okay this is the first day of the rest of my life my birthday and so evidently I don't have any more karma and I just that's what I assumed and let it go at that well I finished my workshop knowing um well the my sponsor knew I had a birthday

and so unbeknown to me she had set up a party in her private home for a few select friends that were attending the class and she said she'd like uh to Come and have dinner with uh dinner at her home and I said sure So when I got there uh we went downstairs she had a a manless place and we go downstairs and uh everybody jumped and said happy birthday and she had this cake and this Buffet all laid out but what was so fascinating uh this huge huge huge room there were three Pian I

REM recall a red one and a white one and a mahogany and all of a sudden this old Old woman shuffles up towards us and she said I want you to meet my mother my mother um was a Pianist and uh she uh was with the philarmonic orchestra and uh this piano was given to her when she was in France and U she still plays and uh what would you like to hear and this woman nuds her daughter and says I know what I'm supposed to play for her and she wobbles on back to the

piano and starts playing born Freed da da you know with emphasis that the window is vibrated and she plays the whole song of warn free and then she shuffles it back up to us and Pats me and smiles and walks off okay how does this happen I mean what happened here I had no no control over any of this and those were things that would happen happened to me just out of the blue and well out of the blue I would say uh guidance I mean people from other Dimensions they have um they have the

telepathic abilities uh by communicating uh let's get them in the Here and Now where we're concerned I'm concerned right now I'm going to digress here a minute because I'm concerned about our home security system here that U we're having all of the uh shows now let's say one of them is um uh what is it uh Dash Forward pass forward uh some of the um ET shows um many many of the shows that are now being seen uh the Ghost Whisper to some degree some degree to the medium it's Etc that are introducing people to

other dimensions other galaxies other universes Etc um well our home security system was concerned about uh point forward is the show was the most recent one and uh they would approach the um writers of these shows and ask where did you get your Information they would think there was a leak in um in our govern government that has access to all this information incidentally and so um no uh the writers would say this is vivid imagination uh none of this is vivid imagination uh you are telepathically being told what to write and it sounds like

fiction or faction but what it is it's um sort of numbing uh the public uh to when all of this transpires and it's in a ongoing process Now in this evolutionary process it's happening uh but it's an upst stepping process and So eventually all of all of us will have this capability uh communicating in other dimensions going to other galaxies other universes Etc light system plant systems and so forth it's just an ongoing process what an interesting note to have to leave it on today oh boy well are we through we are it just Zips

by I could talk to you Forever I swear to God well I like I like to know people uh my address is a uh well I have um uh uh an email which is U one of them but uh all I do is send in books or do Blueprints and that's delta science but if there's anybody that has had similar experiences or what I I'm here at the house I get phone calls and emails and I love to answer emails because I'm I'm still learning all the time and my email is tap tap 88 at

call.net tap tap 88 atc.net and I just sit here and do people's Blueprints and answer my emails and uh after I do the blueprints if they can call me and they call for an hour or two and we uh I say uh we uh uh discuss World secrets is what I'm saying but U just having a lot of fun here and that's what I'm doing Now pardon well I would love to to uh have some more fun talking to you more on the air so if you're up for that let's get in touch and and

U schedule another time to get together I can listen to you for hours and hours well if it's meant to be you know it's just uh just one of those things I uh my last book that I wrote the uh the uh Confessions of a sage two years ago I put all these in uh yesterday I got a letter Uh well I got an email from a young man and said you knew Dr Joseph Murphy personally and I said 'oh yes and I said when he was my house guest uh we we we discussed some

subjects that would blow your mind something that he never put in his books uh but he and Vincent Peele would discuss it and he came P personally when he came into Dallas he called to personally come out and spend the day with me and we discussed things that uh he said I could not put in my books they would think I was practicing I was a witch I couldn't I couldn't put this in my book and these are things now he's gone I can relate I mean I can discuss I mean I'm not talking out

of school it's just something we all need to look at our experience let's continue this the system is about to cut us off in 30 seconds but let's continue uh you you know next time more more insight stories and and I just uh you know it just any Kind of reminder any kind of like I like doing the same thing that you're doing connecting with people hearing their direct experience because I've had many of my own as well and it just validates the the truth of our reality of our being and it's very powerful so

I'm really grateful you were here today Helen and I look forward to the next time we can talk on the air well if it's meant to be you know life is either a daring Adventure or nothing Yes on that note thank you so much El we'll talk again soon I'm sure it is to be but we'll see all right bye have a great day thank you so much to all of you tuning in as well and if you miss any of the show news forthe soul.com that's where you go here's some messages about mind over

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the contest Queen it is Monday August 4th at 900 p.m. and I'm very excited because we have a very special guest tonight I have on the phone with me Helen hadel and she is a woman who won every contest she entered I think we all want to rub her arm for good luck I first learned about Helen when One of my favorite authors Joe Vitali blogged about her and her book name it and claim it and if you get my newsletter you had some order information there on how to get that book for yourself um

it All Began for Helen when her husband who's a fisherman um Drew her attention to a contest sponsored by Coke as the prizes were outboard motors Helen entered and of course one do you want to talk a little more about that Howen uh yes but we'll we'll uh start at the beginning because I read The Power of Positive Thinking by norin Vincent Peele and the thing that intrigued me was he said you can have anything you want provided you know what it is and then you can see yourself as having it and I thought that

was profound and after um that night I was so you know all excited and that's when uh my husband was reading the paper and I told him I said you know we can have Anything we want provided we know what it is and he said well I need I'd like to have this outboard motor and I that's pretty specific yes and see at H when when I was contesting contesting means you have to complete 25 words or less or 50 words or less and here's where a creative imagination comes in I sat in the chair

I pretended I was my husband because he liked to Fish by himself and I wrote 25 words uh uh in fact these other words I'm a lone wolf fisherman Cokes are my silent Partners they contribute no yakity Yak when cooled upon when called upon and those was 25 words and I send it in and I didn't know any better and I just had this confidence that they're just going to let me win week later and naturally they called any one and from that day on I kept thinking okay what else do I want and it

started I mean it was just um well you would say It was miraculous but later on when I was really serious of what's what's going on here that's when I realized that you are projecting energy and when you project anything with motion then it is H Amplified and it happens faster than if you just mental Muse with it so then I had so many requests and letter letters and uh uh different comments from people because now locally I probably was considered the contest Queen you know before you Came in the picture so well I do

consider you a contest Queen that's for sure but anyway what I did uh Carolyn I I said anytime anybody called I said well if you want to be a winner you better use my motto which is Spec s p c and they said well what's that and I said it's selected projected collected I mean expect it collect Collect it and if there's a secret that people are seeking as a winner you now have the answer so select IT project it expect it and then you collect it and that's the way it works and what what

I'm uh what I'm really really stressing is uh when you do have uh you choose a prize any prize uh a lot of people just choose to win I never did I wanted a specific prize and I would focus on that and I would look at other things that were available I wouldn't enter because That was not on their list so I became very very specific and would concentrate energy I'm just one thing and that's what I won every time I would win it would be first prize things that I wanted it so that's another

I think Gem of wisdom and of course you know during my period I was accused of be using Witchcraft and I kept hearing it and my son would be embarrassed at school and that's when I coined the word wish wi i H wishcraft yeah and I like that a lot actually yeah and then later on I knew noticed that some people were using it in their book but that's okay because it works and so actually that that's what we have witchcraft okay so one of the questions I had sent you in advance of the interview

was a lot of people especially now with the Advent of the internet because the postage is no longer an issue you can Enter hundreds of promotions yes so and that's what I've been doing and I win quite a bit but there's the the prizes I and I and I'm going to use your words in the process of winning such as my new car that have not arrived yet so would I be better off not entering anything and just focusing on say car promotions well if this is what you want to do and and um you

know you said you Entered so many of them how many hours a day do you spend uh this is important I mean what is uh the purpose here I mean it's a hobby but it can be all consuming and it can just almost take over well I never did that Carolyn yeah know I I only spend about an hour maybe two a day at most if that and there's days that I have 10 minutes so okay it it doesn't it's the amazing thing about the computers is that you can enter a lot in a short

amount of Time uhhuh which is either um a really good thing or maybe listening to you a really bad thing well cut out okay let me let me uh just project this and you think about it when you're entering so many you are uh dissipating your energies your ener how many what are you concentrating on you're working with energy Carolyn and that's that's the reason I say when you're focusing on one thing and then you you have pro pro selected that you Have projected that energy to that one thing and then that's when you win

it and then you can go to something else okay what about what happens with a lot of promotions nowadays is there's two things you I use software and basically I enter once and forget about it so it's not even in my it's not even on my radar so to speak or there's a lot of one-time entry promotions that are the same you enter once and I forget about It well why do you enter uh if you forget about it don't you want don't you want one specific thing you don't forget about it honey you you

uh selected it and you've projected it and now you've got to expected to collect it oh I'm going to have to rewrite a new new book and change the whole entering system that's in my book well all right now just a minute I'm not belittling you because if you've been a constant winner but how many things do you really want That you've uh that you have won or they have uh given you how many things do you really want well a lot of the stuff I like um I like the surprise of not knowing what's

coming I really like that whole Christmas morning kind of feeling okay I I really like you say winning tickets to things I may not normally go to like we won four tickets to go see a Toronto rocks game now Toronto rocks the Toronto rocks team is our lacrosse team well I've never seen lacrosse played Ever so we went you know to my husb husband myself and another couple and we had such a fun evening out together and I would never have gone on my own and I like that because it was something that I never

would have tried had I not won the tickets so I do like that but I hate that word butt I heard that but the I would really like to have more frequent trips like the bigger stuff so I see what you're saying about collecting my energies away from the small smaller things and combining them to win the bigger things yes and is that what you mean uh yes uhhuh because um you've read the book and then uh you know my H we would sit there as a family unit and I'd say what uh what where

where do we want to go this year for our vacation and my son said I want to go to a dude ranch and so that time I just projected uh prizes for a dude ranch so We went a dude ranch and okay now here's a question you said as a family would all of you cuz I think there five of you right uh yes there was would all of you project hey we're going to a dude ranch so now it's quintupled the energy yes I would project the energy my husband was very very very supportive

and uh the children I said don't tell anybody and you know I coined the phrase also first of all you beg it then you brag it and so I would uh they would never mention You know what's your mother going to win next and they would just not say anything but as a family unit they knew that we were going to have to win this trip to this D Dr okay so you combine your energies to make it even stronger uhuh yes yes yes and the children never uh never discussed anything with anybody uh because

I said it was see what happens Carolyn uh you become a winner then there's envy and you you do not know This is very very subtle and I don't mean to be negative but this person that has Envy uh decides what makes her think she's going to win it and you are very very tuned in and thought transference goes on constantly and you can pick up her thought because she's sending energy and then all of a sudden you think it's your thought and then now you're doubting and and and and you pick these things up

I mean the ordinary person I'm aware of it now but 99 and 44% of the People are not aware how much you pick up during the day that does not you did not inst in were not instrumental in uh in that thought you're getting thoughts from other people constantly and if they're negative uh you just say I don't need that uh I'm sure you're familiar with some people that uh have pH physical challenges and you walk in the room and you take on symptoms this is being very very very sensitive and you get that way

or either I am are we still with you yeah okay so you can it's the whole wo is me uhuh um syndrome where you go visit a sick friend the next thing you know your tummy aches or your shoulder hurts or that's right ankle feels tender uhhuh and not only that Carolyn uh they can think of you and you can pick up their thoughts uh early on and uh we're becoming more and more sensitive in our evolutionary process uh that's going on And you know time is just uh it's like a jump start well more

and more people have this ability and they don't recognize it and some of them are pity party all the time and so when I do my counseling here and uh people come in and tell me what their challenges are or whatever and I'll say have you thought of this who are people that you don't care for let's go ahead and nullify that and let's make yourself comfortable uh so these are things uh Well I did that research actually after I went every everything I possibly wanted you know I won the big house I won several

cars trips any place I wanted to go and after that I mean who needs more and that's when I decided uh I'm going to research this energy okay when I when I start researching the energy the first thing I did was I went to New York I mean I went to England and sat in sat in Seance rooms for 3 weeks and was able to determine when something When a thought thought form or an aberation uh for I can see other dimensions incidentally and I don't have a brain tumor or I'm not crazy because a

lot of people have this ability now they have this ability because I'm I see people all the time that are first many people have the ability they just don't admit it yes uhhuh it can scare the yell out of you the first time you experience it and uh now and and I have references of people that have this I mean what's Going on here and then I can determine if it's their thought form or if it's an abortion or somebody that came and uh is standing around them and sort of well you want call it

a guardian a uh you know the guardian or the counselor or whatever you want to call whatever term you want want to call it an angel incidentally doesn't have those big floppy Wings an angel can be a person from your past and uh when I deal on a onetoone basis with people counseling it Becomes very very clear if someone comes in and stands beside him and I I just don't know a thing about this person and I will just listen it's like a telepathic communication that this other entity is telling me to tell them so

it gets to be quite exciting and how do you come about doing this everything that is important to us is we first must have a desire and when we have this desire and then when we project and then things start Happening and I know I digressed and it does is applicable to winning contests I'm certain of it because even if I sit here today and I decide I want to go some place which we did a number of years ago I just sit here and I say I'd like to go to New York and I'd

like to um see this little new play they have the best whouse in Texas and my husband's sitting here and uh we haven't entered any contest haven't done a thing and all of a sudden the phone rings and It's Rich Little and he said uh Mrs hadel he said I read your book a number of years ago and I want you on my talk show uh can you come to New York we will pay all your expenses you'll be on my you're getting so good you don't even have to fill out the entry form that

is right that is right that's what I'm trying to say and then he said and is there anything you want and I said yeah I'd like tickets to the best little hor house in Texas okay Mrs hle and what else do you want that's a great story yes and so what you see is you're working with energy and that's the main thing and if I can really really stress to all the listeners out there uh make make your motto spec select projected expected and then collected if you've not learned one thing in this hour that

should get you on a path of being a winner okay well that's okay I'm I'm getting it here because I read your book and I found it Completely fascinating because it was written long before the movie and the book The Secret came out and became very popular and and all these people that worked in the realm of positive thinking I mean Norman Vincent Peele he he wrote his book in the 50s he was you know you know way ahead of the curve yes and but I found it fascinating that several of the things you said

in your book were um so familiar like thoughts become things yeah and defin and and paste pictures up I'm thinking wow she's doing vision boards before vision boards were you know the end thing to do oh yes yes yes visualization is is quite important and that's just that's giving you the energy again and I do do stress that if there's an emotion there you know when we have say what our emotionsemotions are love hate fear anger pain these are all very very intense emotions and when you have pain a physical challenge the pain uh you

can dwell on the pain and it can Become very intense pain uh pain and energy comes in pulsations and uh usually when some someone has this uh pain in something I say okay all right you can either give it pain or you can change it to energy and when it comes to energy then pulsations start and there is no discomfort there there're pulsations for healing so it it uh really and truly uh another as I said another answer is being able to control mind over matter And that includes pain that includes anger or hate or

whatever else energy you have that's exaggerated or Amplified uh I am in my book I'm very very uh comfortable with uh author Frank Outlaw and what he said and this is very important I think and it says watch your thoughts they become words watch your words they become actions watch your actions they become habits watch your habits they become character and then watch your character for it Becomes your destiny and when you meditate on that it makes so much sense and I have that in my book yeah I really like that quote uhhuh it is

and then I also have to have this little sense of humor you know and I say somebody says well what do I need to succeed in life and I usually answer only three things to succeed in life and that's a wishbone a backbone and a funny bone and I said oh I don't remember Reading that in your book well now if you get to know Carolyn personally I'm sure she will you'll agree with me your book was titled would clue you in you can't win if you don't enter yeah no I like that A Wish

Bone a wish a wishbone back bone and a funny bone a funny bone that is brilliant well you did it you you started with a wish Carolyn you used your backbone because it took some doing to get started on holy moly does it take some Doing and by working toward your goal okay you now can enjoy and are using your funny bone you should be so that oh it is fun yes it is that's for sure because if it isn't then you're going to uh just go ahead and say it's not worth it okay and

uh when I you know I do blueprints for people all over the world and I love love telling people about themselves everybody should become aware of self and so when I do these blue blueprints at the end I always have this And uh this is something you need to talk think about I said make every day special share a joke hum a song pass some special Joy along and if someone should come your way who doesn't share your joy today the hell with [Laughter] them that's my sense of humor okay I have um taken up

enough of your time in any questions oh well we had some people write some questions um one person I have how it works here On the Blog Talk Radio is that most people don't call in and talk they are in a chat room and they type out their questions so I have to read them um to you now one woman wanted to know if you were still entering sweet Stakes but I think you kind of answered that by saying you were sitting there when Rich Little s when you decided you wanted to go to New

York yeah uh uh my needs now see I'm 84 years old and uh right now I just finished my first um uh fiction Book a man called Friday I am so I am so excited like a little kid and as I finished it something tells me that it has to be either a screenplay uh for Hallmark or for Lifetime and uh right now I I need to have it published which I self-publish because I don't want to mess with sending it in and waiting for people to uh evaluate it uh book uh uh being able

to sell a book nowadays is almost impossible because everybody and that's not negative it's being a Realistic uh because so many of them publish their own books have their own uh uh methods of doing it because self-publishing is something that's uh not a forthcoming it's already here and so I'm going to publish it myself doesn't cost that much and then I'm going to mail it out uh to three or four people that I'm inclined to mail out and then I'm going to telepathically communicate to that person that they should consider it I don't play I

mean I Don't um use witchcraft I use use wishcraft and if they are tuned in and they're reading the book they'll pick up my message and when you pick up a message you can accept it or reject it so I'm not pushing Minds around and I know you can push Minds around but I don't I I choose not to do that uh in my research uh there are people that are very very good senders and there are very good receivers I'm an ex I'm an excellent sender my younger son is a Good receiver and early

in my research I would project to him and he would say he was he was at college and I would project to him and he would call the phone and pick up verbatim What I was projecting and this continued and it still continues today so there are people that can just simply pick up thoughts and that's why I say you now learn to discern do I want to um give him $1,000 or don't I you know it depends what you're Projecting uh one time I was in the kitchen doing uh fixing the lunch and he

came in the door and I wanted to get out and get some yellow roses because I was having guests for dinner that night I didn't tell them about yellow roses he was preoccupied he had to go to go to Sears to pick up a tire for his car but before he was he said I got to get this tire and then I got to get back and get to work all I did I'm I'm there working I'm making praying for supper that night I mean for my guests that night and I look at them now

none were not a word was spoken and I just think of my yellow roses and would you believe at in at that time in Irving where I lived uh Tyler Texas has lots and lots of roses and so the children the the kids that went to college would come into Irving and sit at street corners and and sell roses for a dollar a dozen they supplement their income and they had pink roses yellow roses white roses red Roses do you know coming back from home from Sears he stopped he'd never done this before but he

stopped and got a dozen roses now he y ones yeah he walks in the door no kidding and he got this news newspaper behind him and I look at him and I said my my yellow roses and he threw them on the counter he said whose thought was that yours or mine and I said it was my thought but you accepted it so you yes you can play you can play games With your husband with this at night we we yeah and I sit there and dream oh yeah oh a Tiffany necklace a Tiffany necklace

yes yes yes yeah oh dear but then he has to accept it or reject it yes they can accept or reject yes so you're not you're not be using witchcraft you're using witchcraft wishcraft what you're doing my husband used to say I know what you're doing but it's okay and then he'd get up and make my coffee or whatever so This WOW uh this is um uh this is a point uh that I became aware of after I won every contest I everything I needed I won now how far can you go uh after a

while it's it's it's um becomes jaded it's no longer a challenge and then my next challenge was hey I want to learn more about myself and that's when I start reading intently about um astrology numerology uh Chinese every aspect that told me about myself and that's when I Compiled uh this uh formula to write blueprints for people and when I was in Peru uh very very interesting I was there two and a half months and uh doing research and doing research in England and any place I went that I felt I could learn and uh

I would sit there at night and I compile this entire blueprint for people and I said well if they're really really interested and then your name has a vibration the day you were born has a vibration so everything about you is Like so what else is new for instance you were born in January is this correct that's right and you were born on the 9th yes and you were born in 1967 that correct okay that makes you a cosmic parent you're a cosmic parent and this means you're very benevolent and you are interested in the

helps and the needs of other people so so you're following your destiny which is exactly what you're doing because see January is a one so you're a leader an absolute Leader the nine is the humanitarian part of you and that's very very very when I see a seven or a nine in a chart I just get excited because I know that they're benevolent and then the 1967 is a five and what a five is is lots and lots of travel for you after 57 and you're going to be writing uh teaching and for the rest

of your life the best of your life from 57 on it's just going to be all like you can I'll Loan you my phrase life is either a daring Adventure or nothing and then you're going to make it daring kid wow that's amazing and it's funny because when you said that I I and to help people I've always known that yes yes I've always known that I wanted to help people now I thought it was going to be in another form and it didn't pan out and this is where how it finally ended up manifesting

um helping people have have More fun in their lives but yeah I've always known that now I I did have a couple of people ask some questions you know how you talk about the ability to uh read people and send messages and and all that did you have that right from when you were young and you didn't you weren't able to figure out what it was or did you develop it over time um no as a child of five I was in the uh I was in the bed I mean I was in the room

when my grandfather died and uh My grandmother T you know very Catholic strong Catholic background and she kept saying uh the angel was going to come and take my granddad well an angel she had this huge picture on the wall with an bee beautiful angel big winds and now as a 5-year-old I decided I had to be in that room because I wanted to see the angel that was going to take him well he had asthma and he was gasping for breath and I'm sitting there and all of a sudden he sits up and a

and a whole Group of people come behind him and he stands up and he smiles and they Embrace and then they go through the wall all right now this was something I saw it was like having two grandpas there one was on the bed and the other went through the wall and uh then of course he died and I'm so disappointed because I go out there after he died everybody left the the room and I looked at my mother and I said said you know something the angel didn't take Grandpa Uh he went with a

lot of people so I was already at the age of five being able to see in that other dimension okay you didn't quite know what it was you just knew that he had left that's that's right that's right and uh as a Catholic uh with sometime the funerals were held in the church we had to go to mass every Sunday I mean every day before we went to uh to the to the classroom and if there was a funeral it would always confuse me because the Casket was up there and there would be a man

standing there and or a woman if it was uh if it was the body of a woman and just looking around and nobody else could see her I would say look at that lady standing there by the the casket even you know as I was going nobody would see her and what it was and later on this can be humorous or it can be a sick joke but I then made the determination they would come to their own funeral to see how popular they were Or how many people were there this this you know really

in truly because later on when I got to know the people that were in the casket uh oh when you like when you were older yeah when I was older yes yes uhhuh and then I could communicate with the people and they would say I'm waiting I'm waiting for so and so or whatever and then sometime they would leave uh that there would be Earthbound maybe for a little while and then they'd Be gone because the wife would say uh it seemed like he was in the bedroom at night well he was he was and

lingering why I don't know and then they would go off into a whatever whatever concept they had Heaven hell purgatory or in uh Indians go to their Happy Hunting round but that's just in that next Dimension uh as we are in an evolutionary process we continue to evolve into different levels of consciousness and this physical body is Just a vehicle for planet Earth which is a a learning a learning experience is what the planet is here so that's why you choose to come down here you choose your parents uh I have found all this out

when I am dealing with children and uh so self-awareness uh right now today I think the most important thing and you can have your contests and you can win Your prizes why not you deserve the best they're all fun too yes oh definitely definitely but later on when you get real serious uh and then you want to have more answers uh what makes me tick click get sick why am I mad sad glad or bad you ask yourself these questions and then all of a sudden books appear people appear and then that's when I got

very very serious working with this energy and when I do my blueprints this is very Interesting because I I work with your numbers that's all and I'm on my computer and I talking about you and I do the cards for you every aspect of you and then I I ask before I mail the blueprint out I sit and say is there anything else this person needs to know and if somebody appears somebody appears it's not somebody I recognize so I then know it belongs to you belongs to this person that I'm working with and then

I sit there and it's like they dictate Tell them this tell them that tell them this and I may write a whole page on what you're to look at or what you're to think about and then I feel good and then I send it out and I God I send last week I sent went to a doctor in Hong Kong wow yeah all over the world I mean it's just been amazing and I do know advertising it's a word of mouth thing and uh usually when they get my book order my book I put in

a slip and I I I talk about I mean you know here's a this Is available my other books are available or here's my blueprint available so that's what I like to do now love it it's like the person is right here with me and we're having a conversation oh how fun yes yes yes and then also you indicated that you would like to spend some time with me well we can make that a available uh after it's convenient in the fall and uh by then I should have my um my um uh my other

house available over here that I used as A dormatory I have sort of Clos that up but I anytime I meet somebody that's very very sincere and interested I consider them to come in and share my Concepts uh to be accepted or rejected because I'm not a fanatic on anything and I can watch you and I can see from body language if you're accepting it or if you're ready for it and I can tell you things that uh uh I don't know I I I sent you an email earlier uh when I was talking about

Dr Joseph Murphy powers of The subconscious mind very good friend of mine and he's written a book because former Catholic priest decided to leave the order and uh decided to make p tapes personalized tapes for people because he knew it was so so important to program yourself to program yourself and then it would help you in all areas whether it was for healing self-confidence uh a project you were going and he did this with tapes but his Story how he accomplished this fabulous house and everything he never mentioned it in any of his books because

he said they would say I was a witch and he said but I can talk to you and um he was my guest several times so many times I can uh talk to people that uh are on my wavelength if you want to call it that uh we have so much in common and we learn from each other and uh he was very very open Vince Norman Vincent Peele insisted he'd come to meet me wow and Dr Peele also wrote about me uh in several of his books and in his magazines he said she has

the ability and uh to um select it protect expect it he didn't use those words but he said she does um uh she knows what she wants and she stays with with it and that's what why Murphy did the tapes you know how to be healthy or how to be wealthy or how to be whatever you wanted to do and he had a selection of tapes And taping is very very very very important and can be very successful especially in healing if you have a physical challenge and uh it is a discomfort and it's a

nagging thing and you dwell on it well you dwell on it to such a point that it's dormant you don't let it heal unless you're constantly saying heal heal heal and then things start happening yes go to your medical doctor get his opinion and whatever it is that he recommends and then make it Work for you so your thoughts are very very very important in all areas of life con yeah so whatever you want whether it's health or wealth or love or prizes uhhuh yes it has to come from first of all mind thoughts mind

over matter and uh and that's the reason that I wrote my second book you know well I wrote U uh in I I wrote other Realms which was so far out that I only I think I only uh had 2,000 copies and after They sold I thought this is too far out for these people they're it can scare the yell out of them first of all or they're not interested because I mean they're not ready to really and truly get into the spiritual aspect of themselves and so when I do get orders for blueprints I'm

always looking for sevens and nines sixes are very good too so you have a nine oh I'm doing well then because I have the the one and then nine And then another nine and then six and seven you're you're right on Target in other words you are fing your mission and your little friend Joe if I tell you know he has this the nine too and he has the three as being a writer you have the five and he has the five so he's the yes you your kids have a lot a lot in common

well I do love his books I have to say that um I I really started to get into this Focused energy when I was reading his book and I got halfway through the 10 I was halfway through the book and he talked about rewriting out your goals and I guess I did Focus my energy because I rewrote them out and I was feeling very lucky and that day I went to the uh stopped off and bought a lottery ticket I found my husband he was visiting his parents and I said okay go buy two quick

picks in an encore because I figured it's the universe is sending Me money I didn't have to worry about the numbers and I hit um and I did the same and I hit five out of six numbers and I won $2,100 and I was shaking when cuz I was at the lottery Kos and I handed the woman the ticket I was so busy I had my daughter in one hand and groceries in the other and I handed her the ticket I said can you check this and then maen you know does this little music and

she says oh I Can't give you this it's too much and I'm thinking too much how much is too much so yeah I really I I have really liked Jo those techniques yes since I hadn't even finished the book I thought wow imagine if if this is what halfway through does what's the next you know the rest of the book going to be like so and I've read his newest one I just I really like his stuff I'm going to not that I'm not re um I'm going to also I'm recommending Helen's books to everyone

but also if you haven't read any of Joe vital stuff definitely we're friends uh he called I did his blueprint he sent me all his books oh aren't they wonderful I love them yes yes and he put me on his uh blog and uh he had 92 responses on holy yes yes yes 92 wow well see he is he's benevolent uh he's he's the nine which is the uh humanitarian he has he was born in December the 29th which is in 11 Master number but he has the three in December which he has this he

has this ability to write to express and to teach so he's following uh all the numbers here see yeah he wrote the original hypnotic marketing book yes so he knows I mean he's tuned in and uh and you have the nine he has the nine that's very very very interesting so yeah anytime I know anybody Uh total stranger and they'll call and they say do you mind if you tell me uh if I ask you your birthday and the the minute they tell me I go click click click okay this is it I don't impose

my Concepts on them but I know who I'm dealing with you know that's pretty funny now I had someone um yeah ask a question hang on let me just okay um go um um back up now someone wanted to know if you've ever come across any mean Spirits Because you said you've you know you had some good spirits with your uh grandfather obviously seeing him he was a good spirit and the people that came to get him they're Obviously good spirits but have you ever had any any um anything where there was mean Spirits uh

not to my knowledge not to my knowledge uh if you're in a very depressed mood uh people in that uh in that vibration will hang around you and ab make you more depressed so it's snap Out of it snap out of it or you have the ability uh to uh put a protective light around you and that's been on for years and years and uh and you don't need any of that you don't need any of that if you're seeing in another dimension and you see uh something that frightens you it may be a t

thought form and it may be something you created but nevertheless you want it out you see I I'll tell you what a lot of the people that see in that other dimension they actually Create thought forms they create thought forms and you have to learn to discern is it truly a thought form or is it someone coming to by their own valtion to instruct me and you listen to what's going on another thing I want to uh bring out is U because if you are having this ability to see in other dimensions uh be very

careful just because people are dead does not mean they're smart I'm serious think about it real Real often because let's say your loved ones uh one makes a the transition and they hang around you and they're they're you know it's not going to make them smarter because they died and if they can project to you some thoughts and things and you think they know more uh forget it uh in Seance rooms this happens very very often you know when you go there to talk to your loved ones hell I spend three weeks in Seance rooms

in England and boy did I learn From that one uh most of those people that came in they were elderly and they were wanting uh some information about their loved ones that had made their transition and so each time the medium uh uh chose someone say is Rema here or is Betty here or whatever uh they uh I would check and see the person behind the medium and I could describe in detail and what was happening the woman that wanted to talk to her husband she was creating a thought form and uh The medium was

very good at reading your mind and so she would accommodate you so until you know these things you're going to be led down a Garden Path okay CU you know who's got a good book on that that might help people learn um Sonia kosette has written several books and one of them that I finished reading this year was called ask your guides and she talks about that very thing about one woman who was getting messages from her mother but in When her mother was alive her mother drove her nuts and she was still doing it

in the afterlife and she had to learn how to how to let that go and cut that off so yeah that's a very good book it's um I have a Sonia's link on my website in the rear section under tracking luck if anybody wants to go look it up uh she wrote a book called ask your guides so that way people can learn a little more uhuh yes uh yeah well listen I told you I was going to digress and you want to Get back to the contesting oh I think this is much more interesting

I'm I I run the show and uh and uh you know what I'm watching people's messages online they are not missing the contesting at all everyone saying please tell her we love her so much so um you've had so many messages like that I couldn't even list them all um to tell you how many people said comments like that about you so I just wanted to pass that on well I appreciate This you know all the love you can get just makes you makes you more comfortable and satisfied and tranquil I just love it I'm

almost a reuse out here and and uh my my favorite of course is getting on the email and uh getting oh well the last night I had one from Vietnam and they just asked questions in uh Hungary uh Sunday I had a one from a girl in Hungary so it they come and as I said I think um after they read Joe's blog and they know uh my email address Uh they just make contact and I answer all my emails because I'm not one of the movie stars that wants to get in seclusion and uh

that's not my point if I can help them to help themselves uh that's a per that's my purpose and that's your purpose and you're doing a very very good job of sharing all of your techniques uh to Wi winner contests but you can go a step further and share some of these things about um it does not Have to apply all to winning because it can apply to anything can apply to loving a person caring a person healing a person so um you're right on the right track kid yeah I've got a couple more books

in me I know that I want to do one for the marketers and um I want to do one just on expanding the the attracting luck chapter so it would of course just like you said um expand out to to include all areas of your life I did have one Question someone wants to know if someone's doing a movie of your life uh yes um there is a mo uh there is rather not a movie a documentary a do Dr llo uh has done a number of CDs but but they're in Hungary and uh I

can't even translate I have him here and he's written uh all my books also in Hungarian well then we'll talk cuz my my mother-in-law is Hungarian so maybe we'll be able to fix you up there well It's just a all it is somebody read my book and they put it on a CD and read it in Hungarian oh I so the people yeah so the people could relate to it that's it oh so it's just translated yes uhhuh so periodically uh if I have a a real real thought I email him and uh he uses

it with his students which is uh which is very nice he uh I don't need any renumeration I do it because I want to so anybody that has is is sincere I always share with you know my ideas my Concepts uh and yes um uh let's see about 5 years ago there was a a producer that also was from Hungary and she came here with her writer from England and wrote a screenplay and that screenplay she has um been trying to sell but there's never been enough Revenue uh in the Hollywood areas to um to

make I mean to film it but in in the meantime she has her studios in Hungary so she did a documentary okay and I guess it's in Hungarian but see things like that I don't follow through I just say okay if it's going to help somebody over there to help themselves who cares I mean let her do it and I I contact her periodically and that's it but right now my goal is as I said to have this um man called Friday as as a screenplay or as a story or as a ongoing thing on

uh either lifetime or Hallmark because well we'll get everyone to put their energy towards it so Everybody listening we need you to put some a little bit of your energy think about all these people hundreds and hundreds of people focus their energy towards Helen and have her screen have her book made into a screenplay for Hallmark or lifetime that's what we're going to help her do everyone's going to help you there you go okay and everybody that everybody that is listening I'm going to project that they win their the prize they're now working seeking for

I Hope it's one prize I hope it's uh I mean you do one thing at a time children uh do one focus at a time and you're going to give it you're going to give it more energy that way you know what's really funny when you said that I tell my daughter when she wants me to do all this stuff I tell her all the time I can only do one thing at a time yet then I don't even follow my own advice when it comes to contesting or some of my other goals and it

never occurred to me to do The same thing mom can only do one thing at a time yes yes yes Miss see a better and it is I mean uh one thing at a time then when that comes and I start another thing then I start another thing and you know when I wanted to to win this trip uh to be friends on my uh 40th birthday sinking drinking wine at a Sidewalk Cafe uh that little uh little anecdote is in my name and claim it game book well um the first time I send it

off and that was my I saw myself drinking wine at a Sidewalk Cafe on my 40th birthday and the first thing I won was an organ a hammonded electric organ and I just got hysterical because I said one of the judges read my entry and what he thought was she doesn't need to go there she needs therapy because my entry was I'm curious to find out if a pooped couple with three kiddos can recapture the Rapture of Springtime ecstasy in their fat 40 frustrated years so thinking of that I mean he thought God she needs

Therapy I'll just sender this electric organ which was second prize I say I kept that same same 25 words and send it in and then the next time I won my trip to France Paris friends so uh it it can get funny at times you know judg just have a sense of humor they're the ones that dictate but I never gave up because on my 40th birthday I was sitting at a sidewalk cafe with my husband drinking wine and yes you can recapture the Rapture of Springtime ecstasy even if you're fat 40 and frustrated well

that's good to know I just want to remind everybody listening that I can't be the contest Queen without having a contest so I this week's prizes I have two more CDs to give away from Ron Moore who sings in the key of Elvis and if you want to win them email me at Caroline contest queen.com with CD in the subject line and put your name and address in there so it's easy for me to mail your prize If you win and um and I'll get that off so is there anything else you wanted to to

talk about I mean I could talk all day to you but we won't that just means I have to have you on as a guest again well I think we covered the bases didn't we yeah I think we did so basically it comes down to if one wants to win a specific thing focus on that one specific thing that's right and enter any promotion that has that particular prize as a as an offering so if you want To say win a car don't enter you know things to win DVDs and gift baskets and that just

enter the car contest yes I that's that's what I would recommend and of course the model S PF I mean uh SPC and if you remember that slogan select IT project it expect it collect it and that's the secret if there's a secret that is a good secret uhuh well now it's not a secret because you just told it to Everybody no longer a secret okay but it is I mean it's a powerful powerful method well thank you very much and we'll talk again ourselves okay well whenever you feel inclined to call me I'm here

and if I'm not I'll be here later on and I and really enjoyed sharing with your group oh thank you so much I'm sure that I'm going to start getting emails from people saying you know I cut out all those frivolous promotions and I focused on you know Winning that trip to you know Italy or I really wanted a new car and I focused on that or I wanted you know whatever it is that they want and that's what they that's what they got well that that would be the secret children take my word for

it because it worked for me and I'm not anybody special but that's the way I wanton everything I ever wanted okay well thank you so much again okay bye I'll hang up okay bye okay bye luck is kind of a funny thing if you Believe it you can have it there's no stoping what luck can bring there's no rules everything is Magic if you believe in love life is easy enough Blog Talk Radio life is kind of a funny thing if you believe you can have it there's no stoping what B can't bring there's no

rul everything is Magic if you believe in life is easy enough hello and you are tuned into with The contest Queen where the winning begins with myself Carolyn Wilman it is Friday October 9th and we have a very special guest Helen had Soul now before we talk to Helen let me tell you about what we're giving away on this episode divine. CA has donated a sweatshirt and I'll be letting everyone know how to win later in the show now let me tell you a little bit about Helen Helen hadsel is living proof not only of

her own Dynamic philosophy but of the Entire new thought movement her emphasis is on successful living through right thinking Dr Norman Vincent Peele wrote about her success in his books and articles and Dr Joseph Murphy who authored books on the power of the subconscious mind was a friend that encouraged Selen to keep writing and sharing her experiences in the physical mental and spiritual Dimensions Jose Silva founder of the Silva mind method Of Mind training inspired her to research and to investigate subjects on self-awareness or as Helen likes to call it self eye awareness and Mind

Over Matter techniques she has traveled all over the United States Europe and South America and Helen was a very popular speaker in the 1970s and 80s giving seminars on mind control positive thinking and the spiritual realm she has authored several bestselling books and among them the Name it and claim it game which tells who how which tells through how positive action she won almost every contest she ever entered including winning a home in Irving Texas in 1986 he founded Delta sciences and you can find that at Delta sciences.com it's d l t a s c

i n ces.com and for all the links make sure you sign up to my newsletter and all the links to everything we discuss on in the show will be There she had a retreat center and had people come from all over the world she had guests from England Switzerland Hungary and Peru as well as every state in the United States she even had an ambassador from Trinidad stay for a week how exciting at the age of 85 she's semi-retired and lives quietly in alvare of Texas on 5 acres in the country she continues to write

and do does BL Prince daily she has many exciting antidotes she would like to Share Helen thank you so much for being a guest on my show again well I'm here ready to chat ready to chat now one of the interesting things that you talk about that pertains to of course my audience the people that like to enter sweep Stakes is the spec method that you you coined and what I have found is since the last time you've been on to this show is that a lot of people love your Technique but I think they

also falter with it because It doesn't always work for them so what I'd like to do is do a review of what spec is so we can teach the new listeners and then go over maybe some of the things that people do wrong or the mistakes or the little bits that trip them up so we can help them get those hurdles and use your techniques properly and so that they too can have what they want come into their lives great okay you want me to get started on that yeah so tell people what Exactly is

Speck okay spec is meaning selected projected expected collected and that's a small term so I mean it's easily uh memorable all right when you uh first of all when you select it uh you know there's goal you have to get a goal to get started and there's many ways that you can um what I call projected and and expected but let's get on with the first of all selected we all have we all have our wants and our needs and so what do you decide what is Important now and it can be anything it can

be material uh mental and spiritual whatever you're tuned in with then all right you have that and sometime you can uh put up little poster boards to remind yourself or you can tack up um words or whatever and you know um one of the things that I have found when I am going to do a um projection when I have a particular thing I'm working on I the best time to program for me uh I if I watch television I turn it off and don't Listen to the commercials and this is a wonderful opportunity another

one is when you're driving and just put that up there uh see what we're working with here is energy the more energy that you project to something the faster it comes to manifestation and this is where people can many times can get discouraged uh they they project something and uh they they go through the all the formalities and now they're Wanting to collect it but nothing happen uh don't feel bad there there can be a delay in results this is the way I explain it and so you just don't have enough energy kids so stay

with it and when you get discouraged and say well it's not going to work or their rigged contest their rigged or millions of people entered it uh that's being negative and what you've done when you say that you've nullified all your en all that good Energy uh sometimes and I'm going to brag here sometimes I project something and it happens in a day or two and I get I squeal with delight because see I never never know how much energy I have projected toward that end result uh sometime it takes 3 months sometimes 6 months

uh but it's not that important to me because if I am really and truly excited about something I'm going to stay with it until something happens I'll give you an example that just happened last week I was at the grocery store and I picked up a magazine called the sun Su it's a National publication and it always his U quoting M notus did this the end of the world is coming you know all of the negative things to stimulate and people pick it up and are uh really really discon glumer with all of the Doom

and Gloom that's on well I picked it Up came home and read it and I thought there's so much Doom and Gloom in this I think I'm just going to write them a letter and I'm going to tell them about spec and I'm going to say why don't you up upbeat this place uh magazine give me a page or whatever and uh here's my book here's my spec technique and you can use it and this was uh this was on a Wednesday I believe it was well I send it out and then what I saw

I kept seeing was a full page that they Den devoted to Spec that's all I wanted was to uplift these people that read this Doom and Gloom well Monday morning got an email and said we're um we're accepting your article and uh send us a photograph of yourself for your story well I that that was an opportunity for me to squeal with delight because my God that was that was less than a week when I already had collected it now when I say collected because they now the story has been accepted now it may be

a month or Two before it's actually published because they have their stories um backlogged that's not important they did accept it and this is uh something that okay now I have an opportunity to go ahead and see it not as a half page I'm going a whole page because I have some good material there and I think it will uplift people so that my is my recent what I call projection okay so I just wanted so even so the minute that for you the minute That they say yes we're printing it you consider that collected

yes I do yes okay so you selected your goal was to um be in this publication yes then you projected it so you imagined a whole page and you fully expected it them to call you just didn't know when yeah and you got an email four days late well I guess if you bought it on what a Wednesday uhuh and and then we Monday that's four business days so four business days later they contacted you So it manifested in less than a week yes uhuh and what I did here uh when I read the magazine

after I I read it and wrote the letter you know and I write uh some upbeat stuff I'll say uh I'll start out and say dear editor how does this grab you and so now I have his attention and I'll say your doom and glue magazines that I pick up periodically uh I think you need some upbeat material and this is all I said in my um Query letter but I send my book and I send the article that I've written on spec and that was it then the next opportunity I had was let's projected

well I had to go to town which is 12 miles uh away and all the while uh driving I listen to sofom music but I also see them accepting it I didn't know that they were going to contact me for a picture but I see it already in the magazine that's my end result So for for someone using the example of a trip to to project it You' want to to have them imagine themselves on the beach or walking through Paris or well actually we can use Paris as an example because you you use this

technique to actually be sitting in Paris on your 40th birthday right uhhuh yes and drinking wine at a s walk Cafe I so that's what you held in your head that that image I started that the first of the year that I wanted to be there on June the 1st my birthday and uh in the interim I had you know been entering contest like the contest Queen enters you know so uh I um only chose at that time there were lots of lots of contests and when you know there's a difference between the contest in

a sweep steak that doesn't matter because I've won sweep Stakes also but the contest is your writing 25 words or less where in the world you want to go and why okay I Wrote that uh where I want to be in Paris France drinking wine Etc and so um in the meantime about February I got a notice that my my uh my 25 words were being considered for a major price and when you do that you know you have to sign a notary and you know you're legitimate or then do a phone call or whatever

and uh lo and behold I want a Hammond electric organ and I got real hysterical because you know I don't I'm not that musically inclined but I said Uh they're probably telling me something because my um 25 words were off so offbeat I said they probably read read it and thought I needed therapy uh what I wrote in my 25 words was I'm curious to find out if a pooped couple with three kiddos can recapture the Rapture of Springtime ecstasy in their fat 40 frustrated years that's all I wrote and so one of the judges

that order probably it was from another Del Monti your ketchup there uh read it and thought This woman needs therapy and they decided to give me the second prize in that contest first prize was the trip but they decided to give me the ham and electric organ and when it came I had also six months of free lessons locally and my husband got so excited about this he's the one that went every Saturday to take organ lessons and came provisioned in play in the organ so I didn't need the therapy he did evidently but that

well at least it didn't go to waves and Someone had a lot of fun with the prize yeah that was a fun session I won another Oregon and this one I don't donated to a church that uh you know sometime you win a major prize somebody calls and says what are you going to do with it and this was a a local church that had just started and I said well you can have the organs so I donated that because I don't need two organs no that was very generous well that was a fun thing

yes yes I like Sharing prizes too I think it it feels good when you share what you've won with people that you know enjoy it oh yes uhuh you know the one year that I wanted to uh everything was an electric fry pan that was that was years and years ago and I told my husband don't buy me a fry pan for my Chistmas Christmas because I know I'm going to win these fry pans because I entered contests and at that time there were a lot of fry pans and Christmas Christmas naturally he bought me

a fry pan CU what else could the guy buy me I had everything and he was going to surprise me and then the in the next month I won three fry pans that's funny absolutely so I gave them away you know as gifts but it's funny it's it's so exciting not only to look forward to things but to say now what do I want next you know what do I need and this applies not only to uh material things but to uh physical Things spiritual things uh uh many times I want an answer for some

uh particular question and uh I use the spec formula there also so I get my answer in dreams or in books or if somebody calls me it's it is absolutely probably the best technique you can use for getting things that you want or the things that you need well let's go through each step again and maybe review some of the things that people do wrong because I think one of The things that I found is Select it how specific are you when you pick because the famous story I have is a woman who emailed me

and she said you know I asked the universe for a trip South and in her mind she was thinking the Caribbean she was picturing herself on a beach but she didn't ask for a trip to the beach she asked for a trip sou and she want a trip to Antarctica so the universe gave her exactly what she asked For you can't get any more sell in Antarctica so when you're asking or selecting in this case how specific are you uh well now see I wanted Paris France and uh I W the Hammond electric organ but

uh when the when the prize came I was sitting there and actually the prize was in my husband's name it was from a men's contest uh and it was just at the very last minute but uh when he says Where in the world you going to go and why uh I Put that I mean I had another contest that uh was masculine because uh it was not this the same thing because this was geared for a woman but he won it and in this contest that he won it said where do you want to go

and they named off six places so actually indirectly I won the prize to Paris uh due to writing uh writing uh 25 words for another another uh another uh sponsor okay so you you just focus on the end result you don't focus on the House uhhuh yes and so you know when I went in the house I uh decorated inside mentally I had the floor P plans laid out everything before I even before they even told me that I was the winner and so these are fun things and uh fortunately my husband is very very

uh was very supportive and he drew up the plans and we sat there uh in the evening and uh uh you know laid out the whole schematic for the house so when they would tell let us know we won we Would act surprised you know because they expected you to be surprised sound like seeing your Christmas presents before yes uhhuh before you know um before Christmas day yeah and it's so much fun especially if you have children or you have U somebody that is um in need and they you they sit there and they say

they want this or what something funny happened uh last week There's a new movie uh there's a new sitcom coming out called Sherry and This is that black woman that's been on the vew uh The View with uh Barbara Walters and she started her new sitcom and uh they did a preliminary thing the other night for one of her uh segments and uh she was complaining the three of them were sitting there having coffee and complaining that they hadn't had any fun lately and she said well listen let's draw let's draw a map and I

read an article that uh you can uh project for something and then the next scene They were all sitting around the table pasting pictures pies on a sheet of paper and writing out what they wanted as their end result and of course that segment they all got their end result at the end of it uh which was you know uh a little unreal but uh it was a sitcom and they had to have you know beginning and a middle and an ending of it but it was a fun thing and I was elated that uh

they had spent that much time sharing with people uh what is it you want and They wrote it down and they had magazines there where they cut out their pictures uh this one woman wanted a husband so she got a very handsome man uh and pasted it up and she had uh these qualifications and when I was listening to it I thought uh as a qualification for a husband or a a mate or somebody I would always say with light interest rests because that's always important when you get a little more specific uh you're going

to take them exactly the Way he is you you can't change him don't ever try that but you can understand them and you can encourage him and you can love them and it's not 100% uh perfect because nobody is but uh when you learn to understand where they're coming from and not quarrel or not uh want to be uh in a power mode that you have to tell them what to do or whatever uh that's not where it's at just enjoy what you have and so he's goodlooking from the back or Whatever because many times

and I have this weird sense of humor you know I do I love your sense of humor yeah uhhuh yeah because I see somebody and I'll say look at them and and I won't be surprised and I said you got to be better looking from the back and I turn them around it's a joke you know uh lighten them up and get them where they're comfortable and you know uh like Jose used to say you know I never know what you're going to say and I would Answer him by saying neither do I until it

comes out you know but be spontaneous life is let life be a daring Adventure yeah that's one of things that you say all the time that I love cuz it's true yeah now we have one of our our listeners um has typed out a question and I'm going to read it to you and I think right away I've I've learned from you I want to answer a little bit first she says I desperately want to win a Kitchen makeover contest um there is one that currently running so how do does she go about this and

she says it's a daily entry and I can picture this as my kitchen but I don't know what else to try and right away when I see that I see the word desperately and I think she needs to D banish the desperation CU doesn't the word desperate push it away from you energetically uh no that's a form of energy oh that's okay it's a form of Energy yes uhhuh okay I want it so bad I can taste it I'm in my kitchen and I'm using these Appliance and I'm standing there and I'm so excited about

this oh look at the room I have and if uh uh there is a specific uh floor plan for the kitchen that she's wanting I would make the floor plan I would see myself in front of the kitchen especially put a window there so you can look out and uh just have the thing and just feel comfortable with it or put a pie in the Oven right now I want uh double ovens you know uh which which I had in my home and I love double ovens so you can be very very down specific if

you can you know if you can uh draw your own plans for it but always yourself is having it and feeling elated that you're in the kitchen okay so she needs to get excited yes uhhuh these are these are energy things that you are projecting for your End result energy is the key here how is now here's the other oh I'm sorry Helen yes but how often are you seeing that end result and again I mean repeat it over and over and over again just see have that picture in your mind and then driving the

car in between sitting on the commode at night can't fall asleep at night uh all of these opportunities are there to give you more more energy for your end result don't ever miss a bit and uh you know sometime you say Well she's getting paranoid you know not not really because there's so many mundane things you have to do and so when you have an opportunity you can only think of one thing at a time and if it's tedious like vacuuming the floor and so forth that's another opportunity so I just uh find these little

opportunities and use them to energize whatever I want yeah there's an expression like the Zen of raking this the repetitive task Is very Zen likee so anything that you're doing is repetitive use that opportunity to project sure uhuh yes yes and I get emotional and I can feel it you know contented happy uh all these good good feelings that go with it okay now here's another question should she care where this kitchen makeover comes from the reason I ask is so say she's entering for this particular kitchen makeover but what she Wants is a kitchen

makeover so maybe she shouldn't care if it's this kitchen makeover or she wins the money to do it or you know there's no I see uh here's an opportunity okay uh if they're giving a prize for a kitchen makeover okay but okay but there's other prizes for money you know I had that same thing happen to me I uh wanted a new stove and I entered uh that General Electric uh thing and there were so many many many many prizes and I wanted I wanted the stove and just Kept projecting and finally uh the prizes

um I had a contest Club here in Dallas and they had all won their prizes and I didn't win a thing and I was kind of um you know down and thought okay uh maybe I hadn't projected enough energy but in the meantime a day or two later I got a $1,000 check uh a spray paint contest that I entered and they were sending ,000 as prizes and I laughed and I got elated and I said oh here is my Stove I thought I was supposed to get it from GE but uh this spray paint

contest gave me $1,000 so I went and bought the stove exactly the brown stove I mean everything was going to be copper and that's what I wanted and I just had was just standing there admiring it when I had this letter from GE and they said they were sorry that they um had misplaced or there was they hadn't notified me and they found out uh this is belated but here is was was my prize For a wash or dry for whatever you I wanted uh and so it was a stove it was a stove so

anyway uh when the district manager called me and I said well I just bought a stove and he said well if you had gotten the GE well I got one at Sears because it was cheaper for the same difference uh what is it that you want in GE appliances and that's when I want a new washer and dryer I didn't need it but at at least I got the stove is what what I'm trying to Tell you so I got it from the uh spray paint contest so she should just focus on the kitchen uhhuh

yeah she should focus on her kitchen and don't doubt where it's coming from because yes there would be an opportunity there uh if there's a contest running but there are other contests that have money that you can utilize and put it in the kitchen so she should just focus on the kitchen so that's the so that's the Projecting it so I think I think this is where most people get tripped up and I think I've gotten tripped up on the expecting it it's I've I've known myself to get very anxious when I don't see something

I love to see something instantly I think us younger folk who you know are so used to you know the quick TV and the internet and you know fast food and if something doesn't show up in three minutes where is it where is it yeah so do you think people get Tripped up on the expected they they don't have enough patience with it and they need to trust more that the universe is shuffling the pieces and give them a little time uh yes I had a I had an email the other day which is kind

of interesting uh she's sending off uh for some kind of a email you know where you sign your name Etc and she said the prizes um were I think uh 10,000 so forth but it was on a a month it was going to run all month And she said she submitted all her entries in but she says and yesterday I won $100 and I'm disappointed because I didn't win 10,000 and I said well if the contest is still going I says keep on entering it you know uh they have to uh see what's what's wonderful

about entering contests they're not they're never rigged uh just get that out of your mind they're not rigged because you're dealing with the um uh they're very well monitored and When they make a decision and it's especially on the radio or television or for a promotional purpose is they have to they have to abide by the rules because they don't want to be sued or anything and so sometime when they say you can win you can enter as often as you like and you can win as often as you like then For Heaven's Sake if

she's waiting for $110,000 and she got a hundred which is okay but uh I would continue to enter That one so that's that's what I um shared with her I said that would be what I would do I don't ENT you know in emails because I have other things to do I've got articles to write and blueprints to print up here and so I don't want to take the time but if you have the time that's an excellent way uh to get your end result Carolyn's good at that you know you like to enter that

kind of a contest I I like to enter all kinds of Contests and and I like to teach people how to do it cuz it's so much fun when not just I win but all my you know all my new contest buddies win yes oh yes anytime I hear I I get elated I really and truly do I and as I say I even offer help uh with energy anytime anybody emails me and say I've got to do this would you send me energy well Heavens yes and we know energy you're sending energy and uh

you know uh if you can see auras At uh sometime uh way way in the past I went to um one of the um weekend Retreats uh where you were taught how to uh do you know look at auras Etc and uh we did projections there and we could actually see energy another thing when I was in Russia at the one of the conferences and the woman UPF front uh had um uh requests for healing and there was one woman and you had to be there to experience it because it was awesome this woman was

upfront and she was one Of the top people that was able to send healing energy and uh this woman was in a wheelchair in the back of the room and I'd say that was 50 or 70 5 ft back of the room but uh she wanted to have uh to be more comfortable and uh she send this energy and I was sitting in the in in the uh in the aisle there and I actually saw actually saw Red Energy just like a uh like a flashl is what it reminded me going to this woman's foot

and I said Sat there and I looked turned to the other woman and I said did you see that energy that came from her and most of people don't but when you're doing uh when you're uh really serious about studying the oric field around people then you can automatically see energy you know I that's why if they're mad sad glad or bad I can see that when they come into this uh into my room here but uh anyway I was elated that uh the energy and there's not uh a particular Distance as it has to

be in the room it can go forever and at a recent uh convention at Laredo uh the Silva method training they had their convention in uh uh Austin in in August and they had a scientist and a physicist and uh really and truly a big name I don't even recall his name but uh he was talking about projecting energy and he had done research and said yes definitely this energy can come out of a person and go you know in that sort of like flashlight That I had experienced so long time ago so yes I'll

give you energy yeah I I send energy and even feeling better uh one of the girls stubbed her toe a couple of weeks ago and she called and she said I'm an utter utter Agony can you help me heal it and I said you're thing Annie I said just put your feet up and you got my energy and then the day later she said I'm able to put my shoe on so she really really banged up one of Her one of her toes so she's okay so so yes uh send energy send uh anytime anybody

asks you uh and don't ever deprive anybody and say well we're in competition the only competition lovely people is you have is with yourself so give it I mean the more energy you give the more you have well I tell people there are so many contests running in the United States and Canada right now it's impossible to enter them all uhhuh sure So take advantage like I'm sending I'm sending Carolyn energy to get over her little raspy uh throat I know my voice there's there's enough prizes for everybody sure sure okay yeah I'm okay so

I think we've we've covered it all and and I want to know has anybody got any question any any other people in the chat room have any questions no I don't think we do so I will hold on And tell people how we can win Helen why don't you tell them your favorite quote well you know I I there's a lot of quotes my quote is like either daring Adventure or nothing but I have another one I think is good okay I'll cover up your mouth okay I have I I want you to know that

I cannot teach any anyone anything I can only make them think because oh that's a good idea yes that's a good idea because uh you can listen all right now if You're starting to think and uh I was able you know when I was on the lecture circuit up there on the podium and people come would come with their hands folded tight against their stomachs especially the men well the minute that they opened their hands and sort of shook a little and then tightened it back up I knew that I had given them something to

think and it was very exciting for me because I can I could read the audience you know after You uh talked for so many years and dealing with people you pretty well are get very insightful and that was always a big plus when I saw people that were thinking now on what I had suggested you're only getting my you're only getting my opinions now do with it what you want to okay well now that I pre we appreciate that and you know what I I think a lot of people really um take to Heart what

you have to say so I want to thank you for being my guest today and you already gave your favorite quote and I think it's true cuz I think one of the things is that um people see Life as a struggle and and you know it's interesting I've never really seen it that way and when you when you use Helen Keller's quote I I knew we were kindered spirits And her quote is life is either a daring Adventure or it's nothing at all and I think this whole um adventure of entering contest and winning is

is really tied into maybe she would have been a a contester had she been born nowadays well evidently she knew how to project because look what she accomplished being blind I mean this is phenomenal she just learned an awful lot in that Lifetime she did and you know we talk about your Blueprints and um it's not something that people can buy um in a store and so I'm going to just tell everyone if you want a blueprint now Helen Helen is 85 she doesn't put these out like on an assembly line they do take a

bit of time um so be a little patient but the there U you can go to delt sciences.com and there's information on all um her books and Her on her Blueprints and you can order them right there okay and I'm going to tell people how to win the divine. ca sweatshirt I love this I know we had so we have so many prizes that I love every show I give away a prize it's so fun I you know it's it's it's as fun I don't know if people realize this it's as fun for me to

give away prizes as it is when I win them I love giving stuff Away it's so fun enter me so I need people to send an email and in the subject I want you to put Divine and by the way if you haven't checked out divine. ca I know it's a Canadian site but they have members from all over the world it's a really great site so go check out divine. ca but in the subject put Divine and send the email to enter me@ contest queen.com so e n t r m contest queen.com and put

your name address and phone number in the body so It's really easy for me to get you the prize if you're selected as the winner now everyone can tune in on Monday October 19th as my guest will be Valerie Mitchell from sweeps for bloggers then that's s we PS number four bloggers and this is really neat because this is one of the fairly new ways to enter and win is um finding entering and winning prizes from blog contest because there's a lot of little tips and tricks that are different on blog contest and They are

on regular entry form style contest so she's going to teach us how to do that and she also has a lot of really great ones on her website herself so we're going to talk about that and Helen again thank you for being my guest and thank you everyone for tuning in to with the contest Queen where the winning begins are we done hi everyone this is Vision Lani and I have a very very special person on the the phone with me right now her name is Helen hadel and She's the author of the book contesting

now I got to tell you about Helen um she has done something which most people would say is impossible basically Helen has this weird ability to win every contest she participates in she's she's an amazing woman Joe vital one of the teachers of the secret wrote an article in his blog saying this is a lady who should have been in the secret and in this interview Helen's going to share the story of her life she's going to Talk about some of the Masters that she had um the the good chance of knowing and studying from

Master such as Jose Silva and she's going to talk a little bit about her story about how she developed this I don't know if you can call it a theory or an art of contesting but she's going to talk about how she is able to influence reality or or call it man facturing luck when it comes to her life and she's also going to share a remarkable story of how she ended up Writing a book that sold three million copies Helen how are you absolutely great this evening okay let me start up by if anybody

wants to be a winner then they should B uh they should borrow my motto and my motto is Spec s p EC and what that means is when you want something you first select IT project it expect it and then you collect it so it's uh it's very simple thing because um these are the this is really what's worked for me And I it used to be fun I'd say well what do we want what do we want to win this month and we would all sit here as a family unit and let's say we

decide to go to Disneyland all right I we selected it now we're projecting it and then we expected and then we collected but we'd have to enter a contest that was offering a trip to Disneyland and there were many many many contests there in the early 70s here in The United States um you know uh sweep Stakes contests are where you uh complete 25 words or less and uh that's what I would do I would um write these 25 words and I had this offbeat sense of humor because I always feel that life is either

a daring Adventure or nothing and I've made it quite daring over the years and so this is what we would do and from one thing led to another and yes uh one day one week month rather I went every contest I entered I would select um Maybe first prize because after a while you know you get jaded and you have enough Fred pans or or trips or whatever you want and so my biggest prize um was this fabulous fabulous home that I built in uh R cleanness here in Dallas in the Dallas area so I

guess that was um that uh that that was my biggest contest prize after I won that uh what else is there I went a couple of cars trips wherever I wanted to go and so forth and then it wasn't uh it wasn't stimulating Anymore it wasn't exciting anymore and then all of a sudden this beautiful man appeared in my life Jose Silva and when I first met him he was at he was out here in in Fort Worth doing a free lecture and the first thing I I'm sort of bold and uh I was not

able to understand his accent and so during the break I got up and I said listen I said I'm fascinating with what you're telling us but you talk too fast and so he just kind of looked at me and no and he said Okay and then he slowed down after we got through with his introductory lecture I was so fast with him I asked him to come home and I said come on home and meet my husband and we'll just have a a coffee break and he accepted and then he told me he said he

was looking uh for a sponsor or a secretary to help him get started in in um getting these uh getting suitable places so he could teach I volunteered and we started in Dallas and after that I mean it was just uh we went to far ERS and we went to other towns and I opened other areas for them and then I did conventions as one of the key speakers because now after you once really and truly have all your physical things and then you start wondering am I a special person am I a wit you

know I've been used accused of being called a witch I'm using Witchcraft and I said no no no it's Wishcraft there's a big big difference here and so I started out by um doing something real real offbeat and in my second book that I've written and it's been published recently on the confessions of an 8 84 year old sage I talk about now I think I want to levitate now I think I want to use mental telepathy now I want to know the difference between a thought form and a person that comes to you by

their own Valtion because I can see in other dimensions and there number of people that can do this so I don't have a brain tumor or I'm not crazy because I see these people but now I was wondering is it a thought form I create is this I learned from Jose because he said many of many times there thought forms and you create them and so in my book uh when I do quite an extensive uh description of how Jose and I work together we worked with the Thought form because people would come to a

lesson and ask for Jose's help and I would listen and I learned so much so I wanted to to prove to myself so I went to England sat in Seance rooms for three month three weeks and when I came out of there I knew that uh the difference between aditions and thought forms uh in New York I had a friend and she said get on the talk show and tell these people because I think this is an interesting subject which I did and somebody heard Me and that's when I was invited to write Russia to

present my paper on aberrations and thought forms I then uh did experimenting with um telepathy Jose was very very good receiver in telepathy I was an excellent sender and we we got to to be so proficient it was he we would do things verbatim he would know what I was telepathy telepathically telling him I also have a son that's very very good at this and it's a fun thing you know uh When you are um thinking about a person and you are hoping that they call or uh just thinking about them in general uh they

pick up your message and uh if it's positive creative and so forth they may call you or they may smile and think of you and they may think it's their idea so when I I was with Jose we did a a very interesting we did a very interesting uh experiment and my son as I said was a good receiver so I would conjure up Things that I'd want him to do and he would do them and finally he got wise and he said mother is that my idea or yours and it usually was my idea

and that's when I said honey you can accept or reject it and after a while he would say well I got your message and is this what you wanted and we're just I mean it's just like so what else is new uh when I was with the Silba method I would um go out to the various uh centers now that we Had around the country where the where the instructors were and one weekend I was invited up to um Hamilton Ohio and there was an instructor up there and he was called Ken OG and after

I did my workshop uh and I had written my book and it had just come out that was in the early 70s and uh he said I'd like to um go ahead and uh and go ahead and use your book and uh uh really and truly I have a A plan and the scheme well I looked at him and he was just a young guy he didn't he lived with his mother he didn't even have a car but he had an intense desire and his desire was to make a million dollars so he could go

to India he was very into meditation and the holy men Etc and he said what would you like to do and I said well when I retire I'd like to buy uh some property on the lake and build a center where people can come and a dormatory also Where people can come and I can and teach them selfawareness because that was where I was very very interested in and so he said okay so I never heard from him and my book is doing very very well now because um the uh publisher was impressed with it

and he was selling it for me I was selling it when I went out uh on a lecture tour one weekend Ken knocked on my door with his brother and his aunt and said I'm not going to leave Texas until I get A commitment that I can distribute your book well you didn't have my husband said I wouldn't even work with him because he doesn't have any money we don't know anything about him and that's uh usually I'm uh very very um tuned in with u people's vibrations their voice resonance their birthday Etc and I'm

just this is something that I'm interested in and uh I said well okay I think I'm going to sign a contract with them and my husband Was still opposed which is perfectly all right because it was my idea and uh all Ken did we he said um give me about 4 months and I'll see what I can do for you and at that time the book was very popular and I had been out of copies and I'd written a story for a good hous keeping magazine and I selling a th copies a day from this

magazine article I ran out of books but my contast cont I mean my contract said I couldn't I couldn't print it anymore so Now it's been four or five months and my husband is saying I don't think you need a good idea one day Ken called me and said are you sitting down Mrs hadel he said I took your book and put it on direct mail I went to the contest uh judging firms bought their list of people that enter contests I sent him a postcard about you're winning and he said we're selling 1,500 books

a day and this is your uh this this is your commission so I am telling you I had to Sit down because it was $115,000 at that time that was very very nice and so I went ahead and bought this 5 Acres where I'm living presently living I built a dormatory I built a center all out of the just all other the things that I'd gotten from my book every three months he'd sent me a huge huge check and he had great plenty of money also when he had enough money uh he said okay you're

I'm giv back the book to you and I'm Going to India it's been a night we've had a nice nice encounter and that was it so here I have I have everything has been paid for and that was absolutely uh I selected it I projected it I expected it and then I collected it which he did another thing when you are vying for a contest or a prize there's something else that you need to um consider and that's emotion emot emotion is the energy that causes things to Materialize much faster so if you can get

energy like you can taste it you can feel it you can smell the uphostery in the car if it's a car you want then it's going to energy works faster we're working with energy here that's all it is and when you have more intense energy and then you can manifest faster movie stars use this they call it animal magnetism but it's an energy thing and it's enthusiasm and that makes a winner being positive now how does one develop Being positive and stay with it I have something here that I think you ought to consider because

it's something that I teach to my students that come out here for self-awareness and I always tell them watch your thoughts they become words watch your words they become actions watch your actions they become habits watch your habits they become character and watch your character for it becomes your Destiny and this is very very important that's a beautiful quote it's you consider this and another thing was the sense of humor I always say that um how to succeed in life you only need three things and that's a wishbone a backbone and a funny bone and

if you had that I mean that's very very true and then it's a fun and game I mean life is a fun is either a daring Adventure or nothing and I've made it daring because I feel that I've Been very very successful in anything I I pursue and I still am doing this and it's remarkable I can squeal with delight when something manifests for me it's just like being a kid again in a candy store when my when my when it comes to fruit I call it do you have a question I could talk for

yes absolutely well one of the things I wanted to ask you was you said people come to you um come to where you are located for your training programs where where exactly Are you located right now I'm sure the audience would love to know yeah I'm 50 miles uh from Dallas now at 20 22 miles from the airport uh I don't have guests here anymore but I've done something in the p in the last 15 years I do people's Blueprints and uh and I get requests from all over the world and what I do is

I all I need is your birthday then I find I sit here in my computer and I I I zap in on you and I know what Makes you tick click and get sick are you mad sad or glad uh all of these things come to me and I do 20 pages of all about you everybody wants know about themselves they really should because when you know about yourself know theirself and then you can uh well you're more successful it's just a more fun thing that's that's interesting now and what what do you charge for

this uh it's $35 for this entire blueprint I put it in a Photo album so you can review it and today I had an order for four of them and this is real interesting because more men are ordering it than than women I did Joe the the tals blueprint and it was a hoot he called me and he said my gracious Were You On Target I saw him uh I said I knew you when he was in uh we were in Spain together and he was a monk and I was a Mother Superior now this

is funny a Mother Superior and he got tired and I he start monking around with one Of the nuns and and so from that period on I called him a monk and evidently he had remembered it because he just got hysterical put it on his blog and now everybody that contacts me said I know um Joe the monk sent me and told me that I needed to get your blueprint so I'm doing blueprints and it's taking up most of my time I see but and yeah and um let's see a doctor from uh Hong Kong

called me last week do you do Blueprints And I said yes so I get them from all over the world and just a word of mouth thing because I don't do any advertising don't need to I'm busy all the time and uh now the postage has gone up so I have to it's you know it's 11 to send one of those blueprints out of the country and so I'm having a lot of fun with them I see now what what does someone get out of These Blueprints um it's self-awareness uh first of all I tell

You the vibration everything is a vibration tell you the vibration of what your name is and what you um when people talk about you uh what vibration you you you you get from that is all it is and then when you come into a lifetime you come in in the what I call the informative the month you were born the day you born is the productive and the year you were born is the Harvest cycle I then take you through the three periods of your lifetime I take you to The period of what you were

to do this lifetime what is your Mission we all have a mission I mine is a five which is an adventurer and each life I mean each um thing that I add up is your um what what your what your mission is is what I'm trying to say I'm trying to look and find here a paper that would clarify it but if you're one you're a Pioneer and you go where no man had gone before and and uh you're investigating researching and doing things to help people to help Themselves if your lifetime path and when

I say your lifetime path that's your month day and year which I add up and then I say okay if you have a two and then you are a um a a career person you are um uh very very very um diplomatic is where would say three you're the artist four you're the Builder and this is a very serious project five you're the adventure six the cosmic parent I just did a one of a one woman that she she'd been wanting to Have a child and she's never been able to conceive and she's a cosmic

parent which tells me uh she's missing a bit because she can I mean there are many opportunities to fulfill that need of being a parent you know and being sharing and caring so I did quite a nice blueprint for her seven is the philosopher eight is the executive and nine is the humanitarian which um you are sharing with people and uh helping them anytime I see a blueprint with sevens and nine mind I know that they're tuned in and eventually they can see in this other dimension anybody can do that and the criteria would be

desire starting out with meditation is this what you want there's nothing you can't have when you once choose what you want and then you project it and then you have to expect it and then it comes you collect it and these are the so if you're wanting to be a winner then For Heaven's Sake remember The spec modotto because I drill on that constantly and I have a lot of um uh I noticed I looked at your blog the other day and you have a lot of testimonials which I think is fantastic because there's nothing

better than uh knowing that someone else has accomplished this and that you too can do it because you know we learn from other people Helen what I wanted to ask you was how did you come up with the concept Of spec SB and what what was that trigger that happened in your life that made you discover you had these abilities or to help you develop these abilities well initially I was 5 years old I lived in South Dakota and uh my parent my mother was German my dad was Russian and brought up in the Catholic

church and my grandfather was dying and they were very deeply deeply religious and on the in the bedroom of my grandmother and grandfather she had a Huge picture of an Angel and I would visit her because they just lived right across the street from us now he's dying and all the people are around and are in the room I wanted to be in the room I'm 5 years old my mother said no go out and play with your cousins and I said no I want to see that angel that's coming cuz my grandmother said an

angels coming to take my granddad okay so my mother and because I'm fussing and screaming and I want to See that angel and so she let me in the room where he's dying and all these SE people standing around I'm waiting for this Angel to come because what does a 5-year-old know you know and all of a sudden my my my granddad was on the bed he had um pneumonia and he's have breathing I mean there's just a labor to breathe and all of a sudden he sits up in bed and through the wall a

lot of people came he gets up out of bed he smiles and he goes through the wall with These people wait you're saying you saw this as a 5-year-old yes as a 5-year-old and I am confused because Granddad is laying on the bed yet he's up there and he went with these people and I I uh after after you know uh the priest was there and then uh they pronounced him dead and we got walked out of the room and I'm looking up at my mother and I'm bewildered and I said you know something granddaddy

didn't have an angel he went with all those old people and she Thought I was bunkers of course when I was seeing things like that she would say I lied or I had a vivid imagination and she says don't talk about that and so I was squelched uh as a child and I would try to keep things to myself until I was 17 years old and at 17 years old I had rheumatic fever and when I got that I was really I was in bed I mean everything ACH uh there was no medical cure for

it at that time all it was was Aspirin and rest and finally they did discover penic penicillin about that time but now I had tremendous tremendous challenges with my my heart I couldn't breathe and uh one night I'm laying in bed after months and I very Catholic very religious I said I want to die it's time I don't want to be a burden to my mother anymore and I can't do anything I'm in pain I want to die now and I'm very very determined and that's when a being appeared and this being I mean was

Just like an ordinary man and he said you can't die and I said why not and he said because you came in here you come in here for a purpose you you have a physical body for a purpose and your work has not begun and I said how can I do anything he said you're healed and when he said I was healed I um and then he looked left and then I called my mother and I said uh she she came running into the room and I said this man was just here uh and he's

Healed I didn't say it was Jesus uh he looked just like a man and so um she pulled out the thermometer and she thought I had this temperature again and I I didn't have the temperature and she pulls back the bed covers because when you have romatic fever uh all your joints are swollen and everything was still swollen uh my ankles and my uh knees were swollen and she said you just had a nice dream you just and I said no no no he said I was healed well the next Morning I didn't know any

better I just get out a bit don't have any pain whatsoever get into the kitchen and I says I'm going to go back to school today and she was absolutely done she said you can't I said well I'm Healed I'm there's nothing wrong with me she called the doctor and at that time doctors came and uh came to your house and he came and he says well I'm going to come by and see this and when he came by he examined me he said there's Nothing wrong with her she's all right and the funny thing

was there was quite a few there was another one of my schoolmates that also had rheumatic fever and he died uh they didn't tell me that until later on because they thought I would um I'd be affected by it but actually because uh so much heart damage uh because they didn't know what to do with it you know but anyway I drew a picture now here this man is and I and then after I went Back to school and I got busy with other things and so forth and this man I never saw saw him

again until until I start winning contests and I had so many many calls from people and I always answer my phone I mean I I don't think I'm a special person and if they take the time to call me I'll I'll talk to them and so I'm sitting there and I'm deciding to write this book and while I'm writing the book this man appears again just out of the blue same Man smiling and he said okay he said you're starting your mission and it's the beginning and we're going to help you and when he said

that it was a month or two later that's when Jose appeared and uh when Jose appeared and I took him to my home and um uh wanted to get better acquainted with him that night I had a dream and said you're to help this man your mission is to help this man and so this man Jose Silva yes yes uhuh yes and so we um it was I Learned so much from Jose and I think he learned from me because uh we we were very very close and uh we would sit for our he would

bring books and he would say you have to read this book you have to read this book and every book that I read I would say okay now I can do this and uh one day he came and I uh drew a picture finally had no artistic ability but Drew this mambas picture of this being that appeared to me and all these people that were behind him and I would Say uh to while I was drawing it making a sketch I said stand still so I can get and this sounds ridiculous because this is in

the other dimension but he did and I finished the picture I hung it up and the picture is about three feet by I would say 5 feet and it's a I'll send you a copy of the picture and you can uh because one uh Jose came one time with a group of his U teachers that he was teaching there in Dallas and one of the Teachers I said look look at uh this man appeared to me and I had to do his portrait um and so this man the one of the teachers said well he's

not real he said uh he doesn't have um his face is too uh uh he said it's not a real person and Jose looked at him and sort of frowned and he said what makes you think he's from this Dimension had cracked up because he wasn't from this Dimension well anyway you're going to see this picture I'll I'll send you a copy of looking forward to it and now how how did these childhood experiences how did that lead to um your first contest when I mean when you entered your first contest did you go in

with the SB formula or did you develop that later over time I I I developed that uh what happened was I read the book The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peele mhm and one thing in the book said you can have anything You want provided you know what it is and see yourself is already having it and that's when I came up with hey that's it spec that's it you know selected projected expected collected and when after I read the book now I'm a little happy Homemaker I have three children my husband never

worked I mean I mean I never worked because at that time you know the man was the bread winner of the house my husband had a college education and uh just was Working every day and I stayed home with three children because he wouldn't let me work I mean stay home with the kids and then I got bored and that's when I read Vincent peele's book and said hey you have anything you want so that night my husband came in he's reading the Dallas paper and I I said I read this book and you know

something I'm going to start entering contest to win things he said what do you want to win I said oh uh what should we get started with and He laughed he was very he's always been very supportive he laughed and he said well here look at uh they're getting an outboard motor here uh in the cocacola company and 25 words while you take cocacola on outings and he said why don't you win me this outboard motor and I said okay I never I mean never questioned it you know I'm thinking Vincent Peele knows everything so

that night I sat in a chair I I uh had this ability to Temporarily project into a person become a momentarily and so I project pretended I'm my husband and I'm seeing now they say why do you take cocacola on outings and I thought okay my husband likes to fish he has this little boat he goes out and it's relaxing to the children are too small to go with him but he does we're living on the lake here and he goes out fishing and so I wrote this 25 words I'm a lone wolf Fisherman CS

are my silent Partners they they contribute no yakity Yak only cool enjoyment when called upon I send the entry I showed him the entry I send it in and I said I wonder how long it's going to take him to let us know we won two weeks later the telephone rang Mr Hado yes you want an outboard motor okay and then I said okay now what do we want to win next so my daughter wants a bicycle so we um enter the um to um name a pony and She can win this bicycle and so

we sit around and here's these children are all small yet and I'm encouraged him how can we name a pony and he said well Prince Charming and I said that's not original and then I came up with prance Charming because ad do princes and we these are coined words uh my mind works a mile a minute we send it off and she got her bicycle and then uh We Got U now they want to do this now they want to do this And so finally we became uh and I I have another saying that's in

my book the name and claim a game it's a book because I I uh had this offbeat sense of humor and so uh now they want to go to Disneyland so we go to Disneyland win it we never never uh paid for a trip after I started seriously entering contest wow so how many contests how many contests do you figure you've you've won over the years everything I've ever wanted but Now my son wants to go to uh a dude ranch and he wanted to a Dude Ranch now he wants to go to Europe on

three trips to Europe because I wanted to be at France on my 40 40th birthday sitting at a sidewalk C Cafe drinking wine with my husband and I won this trip and on my 40th birthday we're sitting at that Sidewalk Cafe drinking wine on my birthday because I visualized it I knew I'd get it I mean you know ex just projected and selected first that was it You said you've won Helen you said you've won three trips to Europe more than that more than that I don't I quit amazing and and what about I I'd

love to know about the house how did you win that house I came back from one of my trips I I went to New York I one trips to New York I love New York and I came back and uh there was a group in Dallas that we'd meet once a month and we would share uh entry blanks we would encourage Everybody we would uh sometime write together because there were so many opportunities you know everybody was plugging plugging their merchandise and so they had contests and uh when I came back and this is very

very very very interesting one of the girls we had just won this trip to New York to the World's Fair and coming back she said while you were at the World's Fair did you see that house that verica is going to give it's a $50,000 house now that was in the 70s and uh uh did you R just register for that and I said no I was so busy with other areas I didn't even know it notic it she said well there is a builder over here in the uh one of way it was about

30 miles from where I lived there was a builder on the other side of Dallas and she said well you can go to that house and register you have to register there and uh look at the verica house that's what they're plugging just From the new mold that they had and so forth so okay uh the next day I I I talked to my husband I said okay I said I think we're going to win a I think we need a new house and U I'm going to go go go over to G and register

for this house well the next morning I get up and it's raining and that two of my friends lived in Irving where I lived at the time I called one I said them let's go over I said them and register for this house and she said oh no she said the Winter probably already there and she said I'm going to have my rugs today no I'm not going and then I called another friend and she was busy with something else and do you know I sat there at my house and it seemed like somebody was

pushing me out the door so I did in my car car driv 55 miles in the rain to go and enter this contest and I'm sitting there at the house this is a famica house all furnished and everything and I am Designing the interior the way I want it I register my name and I register my husband's name and I take an I bring home an entry blank and I I look at the blank and it said you must have visited the home and then I I got I pushed the panic button because my husband

had not seen the the house and I thought oh my God if they call and they asked for him and they say May you ask did you see the house and what was the thing that impressed you and then we'd be qualified Because you didn't see the house do you know that on Saturday after I had been there I made my husband get in the car drive the 55 miles so he could I said when they call us you'll have to say you did see the house so let's familiarize yourself with the place this is

actually what I I was I I don't know I do these things I have hunches intuitions whatever it is and he registered so now we never know this is a this contest had Been going on for a year and they had it in the World's Fair is where they sponsored it and then all around the country uh Builders were building a speck house and using these verica products and so now it's been five weeks never heard a thing but what I'm doing I went out and found I I I went out and found the lot

that I wanted to put the house on I had my husband draw up the plans for the house and I said so when they let us know uh we'll be ready you Know and so he uh uh one night I'm at my um WR writers group there in Dallas the group that I met once a month and I get this phone call and he says you're not going to believe this he said but somebody just called and asked for you and the only question they ask is did you go and see that from house in

uh darland and I said oh my God because second prize was a a a car and the third prize was another smaller car So you never know what you're going to win right and so what was so funny because now I said now I know we won I wonder what's going to take why it's taking them so long to let us know we won so now one uh morning uh my husband gets up and goes to work and I said no stay home today today they're going to come and let us know we won he

says are you sure I said yeah yeah trust me so he piles up in bed I go to the bakery and get things and Put the coffee pot on and we're waiting and it's 2:00 and 3:00 he said well maybe you just um had a desire and a knowing instead of knowing I said no I know this the phone rang and uh it was the president of for and said uh uh when would your husband be home from work or coming out to tell you um something very important you know just like I didn't know

and so I said well he taking off the day and he's home now and he said well we'll be out well then about that Time my two boys came in the door uh for school U and I said now listen these people are coming and tell us telling us we want our home God for God's sake act surprised they expected and so they know we had to act surprised you know oh my God no no no you know you know because that's they didn't have the inkling that we already knew this uh there were many

things and you want to know something I attribute that knowing feeling because um as I Taught selfawareness classes I was always sharing and I would say when we want something we have a desire and a desire is a few being antsy and exaggerated and so forth but when you know for certain that it's already one then there's a calm collected feeling because you know it's already done there's not and I never never never am wrong when I have this calm knowing feeling and a number of my students have Um now when they experiment with uh

wanting something and I said you still have a desire here because there I know I'm going to win I'm know I'm going to win it and I said it's still a desire feeling it's a knowing feeling when you when somebody call and says hi Helena today I'm going to win postman's not here yet but I'm going to win that uh television that I wanted and then I say okay you already have it and then she wins a Television so so another thing is when you get serious on projecting uh you get to where you're um

knowing yourself know thyself is what it's all about and then you know your feelings you're comfortable with your feelings uh you're comfortable when you look at a person are they mad sad glad or bad and then you act from that perspective that's awareness and you're talk this in the in the silver method you are taught to become aware and just Getting to Alpha just by putting your two fingers together and then you're in tune with wherever you're at and it's just it's just so so so exciting after you take a class and you you you

apply the principles you know just wait to get a a parking place or do it for healing do it in all areas of your life that's when you have a a daring Adventure that's when it gets exciting hi everyone this is vishion Lani and I have a very very special Person on the phone with me right now her name is Helen hadel and she's the author of the book contesting now I got a I tell you about Helen um she has done something which most people would say is impossible basically Helen has this weird ability

to win every contest she participates in she's she's an amazing woman Joe vital one of the teachers of the secret wrote an article in his blog saying this is a lady who should have been in the secret and in this interview Helen's going to share the story of her life she's going to talk about some of the Masters that she had um the the good chance of knowing and studying from Masters such as Jose Silva and she's going to talk a little bit about her story about how she developed this I don't know if you

can call it a theory or an art of contesting but she's going to talk about how she is able to influence reality or or call it manufacturing luck when it comes to her Life and she's also going to share a remarkable story of how she ended up WR writing a book that sold 3 million copies so Helena you worked with Jose Silva as his PR manager for around 3 years I'd love to know about um experiences you had with the Silva method could you share a few uh uh interesting stories uh yes uhhuh um when

uh when we first started meeting uh I opened areas here in the Dallas area and then in the For Worth area and one of the things was and this is before uh I start traveling uh on the uh on the uh airplane I was afraid of an airplane and I still had not mastered that so as he became popular and I would um uh always I'd call radio stations because they knew me because I had sort of build up a reputation as a winner and so I evidently uh had some clout and I would ask

him to come and uh interview uh interview Jose because this was foreign To me and a lot of the people thought it was the work of the devil when he first started out which is stupid but they didn't know any better and so he was very very very a very proud man and I had great admiration for him and so I'm always saying you come to one of his lectures and then you be the judge and usually one they came and he was so so effective and so intelligent and proud and he just his appearance

was was absolutely Flawless and I was proud to work with him all right there came a time when I opened Dallas and then I opened Fort Worth and one night he came to me and said uh they tell us and he always said they tell us which was in meditation he would get a message and I always said it came from that other dimension because he would say they tell us that we're to open uh the Chicago area and uh being his P I been about eight months now I'm in his PR and I Said

well I'll tell you what Jose I don't need this job uh get yourself another girl because I'm not going to fly and he always said we'll talk about it and that night I came uh he I came and my husband was he's always been supportive of me and I said you want to know something Jose thinks I'm going to go to Chicago there's no way I'm going to go to Chicago you know I don't like to fly and my husband looked at me and he said how long have you had had a long Sil method

and training and I said uh 7 months he said well why don't you practice what you preach and I got I was Furious because I expected him toide with me the next morning I sat down went to my level and I said please somebody someplace has got to help me I don't want to go to Chicago and Jose expect me to I don't want to go to Chicago uh the telephone rang and it was a woman that said uh Mrs hadsel I am Mary green and I live in Chicago I just Read an article about

you um in one of the magazines how you enter contests and win and you mentioned uh Jose Silva the Silva method of training and she said I'm not interested in entering contests I just want to know about this training that Jose Sila does and I said Mary I'm supposed to come to Chicago and first of all find a suitable meeting place put ads in the paper and um just get ready to for so Jose or Harry mcnight can come up and start the first class and she Said oh honey you don't have to come she

said I work for a PR firm uh a shoe manufacturing she said I'll get you a hotel and I'll get you a real nice room and at Cost I mean there's nothing I'll even I'll even get you a free room to sleep in I'm I'll go and put all the ads in the paper for you what else you want me to do I'm sitting back I can't believe it and I said well let me send you some money so you oh no no she said don't Worry with this if you're going to come and teach

Sila training she said I also belong to the um Church of religious science I'll have the audience the the room full for you wow I I was just dumbfounded see this is higher intelligence it's the only way I can explain it and then uh two days later Jose calls me and uh he said well I said well we're going to uh we're going to go we're going to get Harry ready to go To to Chicago to open the area and and in the meantime my husband is sitting there and he said I said well look

how it worked he said all right he says for the next four days he said or 3 four days you sit there and get your get to your Alpha level and get that stupid notion that you're afraid to fly out of your head and that's how I overcame uh my fear of flying and we opened the area and it was very very very successful that's beautiful And she took over uh the program Etc everything is fine I'm still a little uh I'd i' not that afraid of flying anymore but I'd rather not fly is the

way I looked at it it was about three months later uh he again is in a class locally and at that time time uh he was very very um generous any Catholic priest or none came uh the class was free to them he just said I just want them to uh share uh my experience so there was no charge for him now we're sitting there And we're getting he tells me that afternoon when he gets in I think you're going to open Detroit now and I says there's rioting in the streets there's pug you don't

want to go there he says they tell me that I'm to open Detroit and so that means I'm to go to Detroit and find a suitable meeting place and put ads in the paper which Mary did for me you know okay that night I'm registering people before his class and a priest walks up and uh the one the Students that already taken the class brings them in to hear the introductory lecture and she said Mrs hadsel she said uh uh my cousin is here and uh can he take the class for free like Jose he

said oh yes yes and I said where are you from and he said Detroit I said oh my God I said we're g to we're going to go to we're supposed to go to Detroit and open the class and find a suitable meeting place and he said oh miss is hadel you don't have to Come I'll take over I'll find a meeting place I I will put the ads in the paper I'll have a full house for you and that's the way it went when I'm working with when I work with Jose it seemed like

higher intelligent was furiously just constantly doing things that's the only way I can expl it that's beautiful so it seems that that you were not just manifesting contest wins you were manifesting the right people in your Life at the right time to help you move towards um your goals yes uhhuh yes and so we opened the Detroit area and then another uh instructor came in there and that's what I was doing that's Wonder Helen I I have a question for you what you're doing do you think this is something that can be trained because obviously

I mean you you it sounds like you were gifted from the time you were a little girl how much of this do you attribute as a gift versus something That one could be trained to do I I feel we all have this capability but in our society we're so busy and with television and the U making money Etc these goals that are really and truly I'm not interested in money or any television shows or anything I'm more interested in other dimensions what's going on there our finite mind can't comprehend that there are other galaxies that

there other universes and uh many many are having an Experience coming to me and uh are reluctant uh to tell anybody else because it's too far off the wall and we s i evaluate it and say okay now that's a thought form but this is for real this is for real and so we um are able to make people feel at ease because more and more of this is happening and uh I like to work with children and I like to create a thought form and I like to see if they're able to see that

thought form and how long they can see it because now I'm trying to develop this so to become more proficient to become self-reliant self-confident and knowing what's going on at all times uh nobody can pull uh this is a coin word p the pulled a bull over my eyes it's impossible and nor can anyone take advantage of me because I won't allow it and I think when we are very serious of becoming aware of self self Know Thy s that's what it's all about and that's the reason when I Came into Peru and incidentally I

didn't want to go to Peru but uh again I had an assignment again a being appeared to me and said I had to be inove on November the 11th and I said I said I don't know anybody in Peru and two days later it was a day later when this young man that had seen me on one I was one of the key speakers at the convention in Laredo and uh had remember two years Later he called and said you have to be improved by November the 11th and November the 11th is what this being

that appeared to me from this other dimension said so this was confirmation and I went to pu and I was over there two and a half months now I've written this uh you need to read my book uh confessions of an 83 year-old Sage uh I have all these stories in there and U they're they're my personal experiences and I go in great detail all These things other curiosity um cause because I'm I'm So Into the story now and you're leaving me hanging why why did you have to be in Peru on that particular date

what because I saved the boy's life Wow the entrepreneur very very wealthy entrepreneur came to take mind control wanted to be an instructor now he goes back and uh and um he see there's a man in Peru that claims that um he was uh in a in a boat and he landed on shore And there was a a a cave there and he says as he goes to this cave it seems like people are pulling him back he sees people and they're pulling him pushing him back and he knew that there was gold in this

cave and he and so he tells this to my friend uh and uh my friend calls me and he says well he knows me and he knows that I can see in this other dimension and he'll get me to come to Peru and we'll go out on this excursion and we'll Tell these people that are in this cave that any money that they find there they're going to give to the poor which was a bunch bu because I I when uh when he he doesn't tell me this on the phone because he said you just

have to come and the reason I came was because he said November the 11th and that's the date that I've gotten from this man that appeared and number two I never do any I'm never fool hearty I look for three Signs and I'm always cautioning when you have somebody that comes to you in another dimension don't you dare don't you dare move until you have three more signs and the first sign was here this man appears tells me I'm to go to Peru I'm waiting for another sign because I already made plans to be in

Sedonia uh for a month stay and I had it all figured out because a woman is going to loan me her house to be there well it see that in the morning mail I get a Letter from her and the house is not available and I'm thinking um now I'm frustrated because I really wanted to be there so that would be my second sign and the sign would be you're not to go to Peru I mean you're not to uh be in Sedona all right now I'm waiting for the third sign the third sign is

that night when the phone call comes from this Peter this wealthy entrepreneur and says you have to be improved I will pay all your expenses I Will send you to matp Pichi what else do you want he was just begging me and imploring me and when I said okay I have my passports in order I'm going to uh find about flights and stuff call me tomorrow night and we'll set all this up uh there is someone there that's saying you have to go you have to go all right so I go there I'm there on

the 11th and that night we are to meet with this man that's going to set up this excursion to go to this island and to get in that Cave because there is gold there and you know from history that the Spaniards would come over there and uh all the gold that they had there they would melt and put in bars and taking ships and take it back to Spain and uh the water was turbulent and evidently a ship went a Merk there because the man actually had wood from a ship that they found in the

sand there and uh one of the um that night when I got into Peru and I'm to meet this man there was curfew there but He's coming early the minute I saw him I knew I mean this was a do you do you do transpiration Transfiguration when you see somebody and their facial features uh turn uh completely different and you're looking you think your eyes are pulling tricks on you it's called Transfiguration and it's u a part of you that has played a role or has been in the physical body before and now it's Coming

through well I saw this and this is so phenomenal because it's it's all written in my book really because I'm just quoting for my book and uh while we were sitting there I knew I knew that this uh should not happen I knew that the government anytime there was anything found of value the government automatically took over government in Peru is very corrupt at that time mhm and I knew this beautiful friend of mine this entrepreneur uh he would actually Be in life would be in Jeopardy if he even ventured out there MH and now

I had to convince this man that wants to take us on this Safari that it would he should abort it and how could I do this I mean I'm here and all I can say is all right now listen I he I know that in other there's seven or eight people going with you one of these people in that group has already has been drinking and has already boasted that he's coming into some money And he told and somebody overheard it now your government knows this and you are now under surveillance and this man became

very angry at me and he said how do you know this and I said all right you want confirmation I said why don't you call one of your friends and have them come over and park about about a block from where pet is living you get in your car and you drive around and uh let your friend uh drive around and I venture to Say that you are under surveillance and I said and when you get home call us and I said you're going to abort this completely because I don't want anything to do with

it and I certainly don't want Peter to be his life in jeopardy he went home about 40 minutes later he said she's right I am being followed and so it aborted that trip so why did I go to Peru uh really to save Peter from do doing some stupid things but how did you know the Peruvian Government was actually monitoring this was it a hunch uh something uh the now the man that appeared that morning was when I got there appeared behind Peter so this was Peter's guide that came to me and asked me to

come now I said when I when this happens I say why didn't you pick somebody else uh there I mean to drive drive all this way I mean come all this way from from Texas to go to Peru I says wasn't there any body in Peru that could have done the same thing MH and They say yes if you had not uh not ad can't come uh we would have gotten somebody else but we wanted you because he is he admires you tremendously and there's other work you need to do here wow and I had

planned on staying 10 days I told my husband I was there 2 and 1/2 months uh while I was there I uh read the tarot cards which uh you know they're not really they're tarot cards but anyway I read people as they came I had the embassy members light up Here to come and have readings from me and the things I discovered about the government over there and be being corrupt I was invited to the president's sister's house as her house guest and uh when the co the limousine picked me up uh to go there

and the president uh it's Aid was there he said and what do you think of our government and I smiled and I said you know when I'm in a foreign com company a foreign country there are two topics I never engage in And that's uh religion and po politics and he just smiled and he said you are a smart woman so while I was there I had I could see through walls when I was there it was the most phenomenal two and a half months my husband kept calling me when are you coming back I

said I don't know I said to today I'm meeting with uh this this Embassy member and he doesn't know that his son is trafficking drugs and I said I'm going to have to be diplomatic And tell them what's going on he said well over there just as long as you feel safe and I said yeah I'm safe I had so much Guidance with me I I wasn't uh fearful at all there was there was um and the nice thing about this was I'm there two months and Jose came to Peru to teach his uh his

work and when Jose came he said you know I knew you were coming uh you knew he said I knew you had this assignment long long time ago and he said but I'm so glad that we got Together here so we had lunch and I um was with him the night that uh he uh congratulated all the students that uh finished his class and just had a real real fun time so this this was just just a real another life is a daring Adventure or nothing episode beautiful story Helen I have one I have one

one final question for you sorry John I'm just going to repeat that because I studed a bit uh Helen I have one more question for you cuz I know Members in the audience are probably wondering this you mentioned about your spec system uh Could you um could you repeat once more what every letter of that stands for S SP EC okay spec SP p c s is selected selected s e l e c t selected projected that's the P mhm expected that's the E collected it's the C now so if there's uh what what I

wanted what I wanted to say Helen was from conversations I've had with with Members of uh uh the audience people are know who's listening in I know the big problem many people have is with the E with expectancy they know what they want they know how to practice creative visualization or a silver technique to project it they know how to collect it and how to celebrate that success but what holds them back is they feel a feeling of unworthiness or they find it hard to expect it to come into their lives what would be your

advice for Them I I never excuse me I never told anybody when I entered something because uh there are people that are envious jealous and so I had the term of I'll bag it and then I'll brag it okay uh you I have the mind works it's a very subtle way of doing it for instance uh you're going to boast hey I enter that contest and I feel lucky I'm going to win it and she in turn uh thinks about it and thinks uh unless she positive and really really a good friend she'll go home

uh That night and she'll tell her husband she thinks she's going to win well contests are rigged and he's going to belittle it okay now she can pick up telepathically when somebody thinks about you you pick up telepathically from them if it's positive I I accept it if it's negative I reject it I just say cancel Cancel I don't need it and I think of something else when there is some uh somebody would call and say I had a feeling this morning that uh you Weren't feeling well and I says that's not me I said

perhaps you're thinking of somebody else because I feel great uh I do not let people um entertain negative thinking around me and that's one thing I mean because we pick up so we're not even you're not even aware of it the ordinary person is not aware of how thoughts come to them where they come and when when you're thinking of a person know that they're thinking of you it's just that simple and if you have Doubts call them I was just thinking about you were you thinking about me and you know we we know that

this happens the phone call rings and you say well I was just thinking about you well there's two minds that are meeting and it goes on all the time so be very very careful uh if you're starting something I W tell anybody don't tell anybody until it manifests and the day that it's to come uh there is a feeling of Knowing otherwise it's just a calm relaxed feeling you know it's already done and there's nothing else you can do about it it's done it's yours and then you move on to something else and uh you

call it effective effective sensory perception I call it ESP it's not a uh U extra sensory perception we all have it it's effective sensory perception effective sensory projection and you can project as I did with Jose as I do with my son and uh my Son picked up verbatim Jose picked up verbatim and you cultivate this Jose would say some people are good fenders and some people are good receivers but they can be both if they're really seriously considering it well he was a fantastic receiver with me and so that was I mean you know

we at that time remember this was in the early uh' 70s all of these U telephones and uh computers and things where we could communicate with each other so we just Relied on this method and it worked it was successful thank you H so anything you want you can have provided you provided you know what it is and stay with it uh I say there are never never never any failures no failures only a delay in results and you back that delay in results by being negative by telling somebody else your goal and they in

turn saying what makes her think she's going to win it and there they did negative And then you start doubting because it comes into your mind comes what it comes into your mind was uh I I don't know if I'm going to win this or not that's not your thought it's somebody else's thought that's projecting to you and making it up and you think it's yours it's not and if it is negative then just I'm not going to handle that I'm not going to entertain that and you can change your mind and think of something

else wow I mean just wow I I love what You just said about rephrasing it as a delay in results it's never a question of whether you're going to get it or not it's simply when and the negative thoughts simply delay the outcome uhhuh delaying results and this is a term I used I mean uh quite quite frequently with people uh they say well I worked so hard and I entered all these now and then I honey you're just having a delay in results stay with it yes and then a month or two later it

came I mean see You're when you're dealing with people in contesting uh the energy is tremendous tremendous uh in in my book I talk about going to um a television show in uh California and I'm sitting there and uh they were um giving prizes uh at random to the audience and uh first of all there's a color television that they're going to give to the audience and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking my mother wanted a color Television I think I want that television and uh they uh there's a mass audience there and they project

to me and I win this television oh well during the break I met two women who were sitting beside me and this woman uh said I've never won anything in my life and I said what what do you want and she said well I need a new refrigerator and we had a break during that um particular um I it was a talk it was a giveaway show I don't remember the details but it's in My book so anyway uh we're um sitting out there and I said okay uh why don't you see it as already

hav warn it and I'll work with you with this and you can get your tow you can get your refrigerator she looked at me like she thought I was a nut and we got back in there and I just see the see the refrigerator see the refrigerator come on come on see it and we're we didn't get to sit together because there were so many many people and I'm sitting There in the middle and she's sitting up there on the top of the place and do you know that this man walks up and points to

her and says you're going to win the refrigerator you won the refrigerator and she said and afterwards how'd you do it and I said well you wanted to did you see there's all these people there uh they were wanting to win things and it's uh but they like she said she doubted it so you don't doubt it you just go go with the flow and that Was another thing I got on Art linkler letter that way I wanted to meet art link letter very popular popular at that time had a talk show and I went

there specifically and uh uh when I got to his place the gate was closed and they said they weren't allowing any more people in there because the theater was full and they gave us tickets to go to another show I stood there and the doors closed all of a sudden everybody's gone to this other show there's taping over there in Hollywood all the time all of a sudden the door opens and a page comes out and he said uh there's no room in here I told you that I said no no I came to see

art ly L he said just a minute he came back and he said uh there's uh one seat left uh you can have the seat he said evidently somebody didn't come uh for it and there's a seat up there so he takes me into this studio and uh I'm up uh they have stairs going up and then there's a platform and More stairs going up all right now I'm sitting there about I'd say about seven rows from the bottom platform art ler art link letter comes out and welcomes everybody and so forth and it's supposed

to be for a Christmas show he's welcoming everybody and all of a sudden he says today one of the a one of the members of the audience is going to win a very very special prize and looks over the audience walks up and I'm third in the row I mean I'm not on The aisle at all I'm third in in the aisle and he points to me and he says you are going to win a very special prize digs my hand takes me down and I'm on the show what I won was a $1,500 Lucha

wrist wash oh wow and when now this is this is very interesting the night before I wanted to meet art link letter I sat in my chair and used the Sila method of going to level picturing art link letter and Saying to Art when you see me you'll recognize me when you see me you'll recognize me that that's all I said and that morning I know that he's going to recognize I know it and when he came up now this is so interesting because now I get this Lucha wristwatch he keeps saying don't I know

you don't I know you he probably had a dream and uh after the show he's talking you know when credits are on and we're standing there he said you know something I know you And I laughed and I said well I probably remind you of something I did not have the heart to tell them that I was using this projection and it worked it works you know on uh many many many many different well I could talk forever really and truly because there's so many techniques that see what what's what is this all about no

yourself know your capabilities know what you your potential know what you can do don't Limit yourself For Heaven's Sake life is a daring Adventure Kids make it daring it's daring or it's nothing okay I want to say make every day special share a joke hum a song pass some special Joy along and if someone should come your way who doesn't share your joy today the hell with them thank you I'm serious I'm serious this has I'm serious this has been a an amazing interview I I it was such a delight talking to you and Hearing

those stories thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today and uh and to share these stories I know it's pretty late where you are right now oh it doesn't matter I'm I'm I'm going I I still have a blueprint to do before I go to bed not and uh and to the audience members listening in um we're going to give you a chance to ask a question to Helen and we will soon be doing a follow-up interview where we will actually be asking your questions to Helen uh now naturally depends

on the number of questions that we get we will be at we'll pick the most common questions and you will be invited to come back in and listen to your questions being answer it thank you so much everyone have a good evening hi this is Vision Lani and on the phone I have a remarkable person Helen hadsel I came to know of Helen from a blog post I read by um Joe vital the well-known author Joe on his blog wrote about this remarkable lady he uh met in Texas uh a lady who by some weird

ability seems to defy the laws of probability the thing about Helen is she wins every single competition she takes part in she's won multiple trips to Europe she's won cars she wins competitions at the supermarket she wins lucky draws in one situation she won a house at a draw at the world spare out of 2 million other participants um and that's not all Helen Also wrote a book which sold some 3 million copies through direct response mail it's called contesting and um there's just something remarkable about her because the way she comes across and the

the things she's able to draw into her life simply by attracting them um defies everything one would believe about probability taking part in competitions and the laws of the universe and so I'm delighted to bring to you on the phone Right now Helen hsel Helen how are you today absolutely fabulous yes yes anything that I can share I'll be very very pleased okay well tell us Helen a little bit about your background and and how you got started um just a little happy Homemaker with three children and I a stay-at-home mom and I picked up

the book The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peele and something really really just clicked when I said when I read you can Have anything you want provided you know what it is and see yourself as already having it uh those thing those three things really sparked my interest and that night when my husband came in from work I'm sitting there and I'm saying you know something I think I'm going to uh prove this to myself and I'm going to start entering contests to win particular prizes you know we all have uh needs but

I want and wants now and uh contesting you know is one area where All these prizes are available for you it's just for promotional purposes so you're not depriving anybody of anything really and putting signing your name writing a a jingle or completing 25 words or less that's all uh that's all that's necessary when you're ending a contest and so that um evening he was reading the paper and I said what is it that we should be working for he said well you know something I'd like to have an outboard motor uh my husband liked

to Go fishing by himself uh the the boys were too young to for them to go with them and it was just to unwind because he was under a very stressful job and uh but he go would go out there on on the boat with the paddle and and so uh he picked when he picked up the paper he said look here he said uh this cocacola is having a contest and all you have to do is write 25 words why you Take cocacola on your outings uh yeah I'd like to have that outboard motor

so I said well okay now the rule said you had to write these 25 words and that evening when the children were in bed and I'm sleeping there and I had this uh vivid imagination where I can temporarily uh get in and make uh feel what somebody's thinking or or pretending I'm likeing you know like like an actor or an actress and so I'm sitting there and I'm pretending like my I'm my husband I'm sitting in that boat and the coke a pack of Cokes why you take Cokes and outings are sitting right there beside

me and I wrote this 25 words or less I take cocacola on outings because Cokes are my silent Partners they contribute no y Yak only cool enjoyment when called upon I send the entry in that night that next morning and all I could think of is I wonder how long it's going to take them to let us know we won uh now see I you know when You do things like this you doubt uh the majority people doubt uh what makes them think uh that I can win it or negative I mean a family environment

uh all of these doubts come up would do you know that the minute you doubt something you are nullifying all the positive energy that you work toward a goal and so you're your worst enemy why in the book it explains that you can be your worst enemy by even entertaining anything Negative so I took it right there I call it hook line and thinker and I was not going to be negative I sent it off well it took about 10 days because it was a local contest and uh when the uh Coke representative called us

and said we won the outboard motor and then my husband enjoyed it and I said okay what what would we like to win next well this was the first win and you'd say well that was luck I never looked at it as luck I Always looked at it okay I'm putting energy into it I know what I want I see myself as having it and that's the reason um when I wrote the book uh the reason I wrote the book really is because I had so many many people calling and requesting and yes I was

called a witch and I said no I'm not a witch I'm using wishcraft When the Children came in from school and said uh somebody said that your mother was a witch and so I changed To that that I was using wishcraft wishcraft I love that word yes it's a coined word but it it explains what what is happening here and then I started spec uh because that that made it just sort of um easy to remember you know selected projected expected and then collected and that's what I what I started to do and contined to

do and the more I the more enter contest contest I entered the more I won and it was just like a uh focusing on energy on a Continuing basis so yes I was very very successful at that time and in fact um one month I won a prize every day and it was a always a nice prize I mean there were um appliances and uh uh I mean I had furniture and my my um what I wanted a floor new flooring put in uh dishwashers you name it and I'll claim it because you these were

things that I could um now very comfortably uh project for and then collect that's amazing h and Helen I I I also know that you um it Wasn't just the the dozens of household accessories and stuff that you were able to win you won some pretty exciting stuff as well uh one of one of my favorite stories is how you won a trip to Paris or you decided that you were going to be in Paris on a a particular uh day that was meaningful for you could you tell us that story uh yes every year

now now we're into contesting it's been one or two years and we always um every year we said where do we want to go on Our vacation my husband got a two week vacation so the boys wanted to go to the Dude Ranch we went a trip to the Dude Ranch uh we wanted uh to go to Disneyland uh we went there two on two different occasions uh I wanted to go to the World's Fair we went a trip to the World's Fair and uh one year uh I wanted to um I was going to

be 40 years old and I wanted to I'd read about Paris so romantic in Paris and uh it was just uh very enticing so that year I looked and I was going to the first of June I was going to be 40 years old and I only chose contests that were going to award trips to Europe and I continued I only wrote one entry and the entry was uh why do you it says why do you want to go to to lissy France and I says because I'm I am um interested to know if a

pooped couple with three kiddos can recapture the Rapture in springtime ecstasy in their fat 40 frustrated years and this was you know it's a picture word you can Imagine a middle-aged couple sitting there at a side rock say drinking wine and after being married some 20 years well yeah 20 years uh can we recapture this Rapture and I made it sort of as a joke well I I send this entry in on all contests that were offering trips to Europe well the first uh in about I think it was about March when I got my

first letter and said congratulations you want a ham electric Organ and I I said oh I didn't want an organ and then I made a joke out of it and I said you know when they read this stupid entry of mine they thought I needed therapy more than a trip and there's nothing more therapeutic than playing the organ you know but it was so funny uh they they actually when they brought the organ out and they actually had six months of free lessons they had a teacher that would you know I didn't know how to

play the organ I said you Know I think I'm going to pass that onto my husband and my husband took piano lessons or organ lessons and became very proficient he would entertain us when we had uh uh parties and things and he had never played before so this was real exciting and I continued to use that same entry and at long last it was I think gosh the deadline was getting close now and it's about uh the first part of May when I finally got a notice that Um uh I was being considered uh you

know when you enter a contest they just don't send you a letter or come out and give it to you uh there's some rules that you have to go through first of all they want to know are you Associated or do you it is anybody work for the contesting firm or anybody work that the product that they're uh you know that they're uh sharing and if you can disqualify yourself because you have to follow the rules so this is called an Investigation and so when you get an investigation then uh they have to follow through

because they don't need any bad publicity and then is when they call you and say congratulations you won and it was the last week in May and I'm chopping at the bit now and I want to be there the 1 of June do you know the night that they called and I said well I said gosh I have to be there the 1 of June and he says why the hurry and I said well I don't know we we I just have To be there and they had to bring out the tickets and we had

every course I had my passport all lined up and uh to make a long story short we were sitting at that cafe in Paris France Sidewalk Cafe and drinking wine on our on my 40th birthday so not only can you enter conscious but you can have fun with it you know it was a fun and game project for me that's beautiful heaven and I mean I I I love your stories because it Just seems unreal how you do this over and over and over and over and over again and of course your biggest most famous

win the one that really really really caught people's attention um was I mean some people said that it was just because of your talent it was because you could come up with great slogans but really there there was something more to it because in many cases you actually defied the laws of probability um and your biggest win of course was the house And and we're going to talk about that in in a moment uh for those of you listening in um if you're interested in knowing more about Helen um this is the web page that

you want to visit I want you to go to the winning sage.com the winning w n n i n g Sage s a ge.com slsp special and uh the reason why I say go to for/ special don't go to the main page is on this this particular page uh there is a golden key access pass so if you um um decide to get anything from Helen uh this access pass gives you um tons of free gifts bonus gifts um and uh um additional content that would not be available anywhere else that where elsewhere other people

would have to pay for that here you would get that all free okay so once again it's the winning sage.com slsp special and now Helen let's get to that big that big win the um the house tell us that story because I know I've heard that and I think it's absolutely Intriguing well I just gotten back from one of my trips and uh locally there is a uh contest clubs you know we have every every state has contest clubs and you can visit and locally those are available and uh we just you know it's like

uh playing bridge with people but you have like interests and uh I belonged to one of them in Dallas and I'd gone there and one of the GS said oh she said uh when you were at the World's Fair I'd won a trip from the world fair And uh did you sign up at the farica place and and I said no I said I was so busy in other areas I didn't even visit that site and she saidwell locally uh they're having uh one of the display model homes that is uh the inter in the

interior is their new for Mica products which where they had molding and some of the new designs and uh she said but it's closing at this end of this week and I saidoh where's it at and I lived at Irving at that time and uh Garland was the only place that had a model home and that's 40 45 miles from Irving and uh so but you had to go to that house and register or you had to mail in and uh the mailing in I mean there wasn't enough time because it was closing that Saturday

so I amum the next morning we this was Monday night next morning was Tuesday and I had several friends that lived in Irving that uh were also members of the contest club and I called one and I said uh Let's go over to Garland and and look at that for Micah house and she said no she's got the her rugs are going to be cleaned and she's not going to well doesn't want to get out and it was raining I'll never forget it because it was a a drizzle all day long and then I called

another one I even said I'll buy you a pizza if uh you go with me let's get out and have some fun nobody I called three women nobody was going to go with me and I sat there and the more I thought about it am I going to miss an opportunity to win a house I got in the car and drove over there 43 miles sat in the house and registered my name and my husband's name and I took one of the entry blanks because I always like to see uh What uh keep uh just

keep it handy and took one home and I'm that night I'm telling my husband I drove all the way over there and I said oh my gracious uh I signed your name and uh the entry blank said you must must have Visited the home and you did not and and if they draw your name and you didn't see the home because they might ask a question about what did you like about this particular model home always always always follow the rules that's the most important thing when you enter any contest and so uh would you

believe that Saturday morning and my husband is wanting to mow the yard and do some work around the house I said no no I said we're getting in the car and I We are going to go to Garland with me and you're going to look at the house just in case they call when they call and so you can actually say you were there well at that period I had been winning I was very very successful so he got in the car and we drove over there and the Builder happened to be there so we

talked and introduced ourselves and I said I was so impressed with it that uh uh and we just and that was it and so that uh driving home you know I said you Know I made that extra effort and I have so much energy now I'm going to put so much energy in it because I think we're ready for a new home and my husband bless he was always so it's so wonderful to have somebody that's supportive and he was and so that after the next day he said you know something uh uh we're we're

we can um we can build a new house in another two three years and he said I'll just draw up the plans and I said okay drop the plans so when They let us know we can show them the plans and we've already have a head start on that so he actually sat there and Drew the plans uh the way we wanted it I mean suitable for our family and we just waited well it was a month now the contest closed Saturday night and it was a month one month later I was at uh the

meeting again in Dallas and uh a phone call came and my husband he said you're not going to believe this he said uh uh Yes you are going to believe this uh I had just we had have just been investigated somebody from Micah called and they asked to talk to you and I said well she's not here can I help you and he said did you buy any chance did she buy any chance visit the forah home and he said oh yes and I was with her I went also and so this is a an

investigation now after an investigation how long does it take sometimes 3 4 weeks and then you have an OP Opportunity to say oh I missed out and all the negative not at all uh when you when you're on a positive kick stay there stay there and just absolutely don't even entertain anything uh and when I learned that earlier I never never told anybody what I was buying to win I did not give him an opportunity uh to nullify it or to send me bad energy or whatever my younger son coined something and I wrote it

in the book cuz I thought it was kind of Appropo he said mother let's never brag it until we begag it and that's the way we worked when we um never told anybody what we were working on and then after we won it and then we'd say okay uh here it is and I would recommend that too for uh people that are first getting started uh because there there are there can be people negative in your environment and then you're bragging it and say I'm going to win this and what they're doing they can n

n nullify and you can pick up Their thoughts and then you start doubting so don't take that route just be a positive person in all areas of your life and then you have um well it just it just makes you feel better so that's the way we won the house uh well was this was very interesting because uh I also like to play mental games with myself and uh this uh now we had not officially been notified but uh we we're all ready for them so this one morning I'm waking up and I feel just

uh you know you feel lucky or you feel something exciting is going to happen that day and I told my husband I said today they're going to call and let us know we won this house and he said well then I think I'll stay home and as boys were going off to school I also and I have joke time I have a an odd sense of humor and I told my son I said listen uh when you come in uh this afternoon uh the people from for will be here for God's sake act surprised they

expect it and that was you know that was just being flippant but they just kind of laughed yeah they just like kind of laughed and walked off you know and then uh it was about oh oh I went to the bakery and I I put the got all the fixings ready for coffee because I thought well I might as will be a good host and we're sitting there and my husband is piled up in bed uh reading the paper I even gave him Breakfast and bed and was uh just sort of having a fun experience

with it now it's 2 o'clock and he get gets up and he said are you sure uh that you had this feeling they're going to win you're going to and I said yeah it's there it's there I know I know they're going to call well it was about 15 minutes later when someone called and said uh uh Mrs hadsa we would like to talk to you and your husband and um uh when does he get in from work we would like to discuss Something with you still very very hush hush and you know wanting to

really uh make us uh feel uh well whatever they had in mind because they like to surprise people and I said well my husband's here today and they said oh uh is he off work or what and I said no he just took the day off and I didn't have the heart to tell him that he'd been waiting all day for this phone call and so I said but now we've got to act surprised when they let us know but they Came in and they were very very uh vice president of the company came uh

two two gentlemen came and of course uh this uh was all supposed to be Hush Hush also but uh we couldn't contain ourselves I was squealing with delight really and trly and so that was uh you might consider that my biggest win and uh yes I won two cars but most of the uh most of it was uh trips I loved loved going on trips and you name it and we were there any time there was a trip Available uh I would sign up and we would make it as I say our yearly uh vacation

time and how many trips to to to Europe that you went uh let's see my sons won two three trips uh I don't remember all of them six or seven trips and locally um uh two times we went to uh to a dude ranch because the boys liked to ride ride horses and so did Pat and then I think uh two I think one or two two trips to Disneyland the first one and then Alcott Center had uh won and uh yeah this is uh something we just just enjoyed now and always being positive and

the whole family uh because the children uh were young I um I would have them enter children's contests you know naming ponies drawing things Etc we would sit around the table and we would all all participate in it and uh my husband would be in the living room reading the paper and we'd be out in the den with the three children at the table and They'd run in and show them what they drew or the names that we chose and he would encourage him it was just a fun fun experience and the beauty and the

beauty about what you're doing Howen is uh you developed a process uh and and it really is a a mental State a process that a process that you could train other people to to use and that's how you could get your kids to use it as well yes definitely and they're I'm so pleased because they are so positive and Uh and they have my offbeat sense of humor but it was such a fun fun fun experience so in a moment Helen let's let's talk about the process cuz I know people are on the phone are

dying to find out exactly what they can do and and what they can and how they can try to bring this ability into their lives for those of you listening in if you want to uh learn everything you can about Helen's process uh spec how she does hit um please check out the winning Sage.com slsp special so again it's the winning sage.com slsp in fact open it up on your browsers right now and what you'll get access to here is uh a complete program by Helen it includes movies uh sorry a DVD film uh audio

a series of interviews and basically a comprehensive training system by Helen on how she does the magic or whatever you call it that she does and how you can bring this into your life once again it's the winning Sage.com special Helen so let's talk about the process itself uh tell us a little bit about what you do um spec as well as the the mental state that you put yourself in uh well uh first of all uh what is it that you want uh that's uh select it uh what is it that you want and

then after you select it you can write it down if you want to okay and then you project it now there can be ways of projecting it uh see yourself as having it or if There's a car you want you can go to the dealership or when you're driving in your old uh your old car and you pass the car that you want I always give it energy and this is projecting it see yourself as having it so there can be many many ways uh sometime um with children I used to do this and it

may be immature or childish or whatever uh I would uh I have a you want to call it marbles or Pebbles or whatever and I would keep them in my hand and anybody Can do this and get this Pebble and every time I had a pebble in my hand I would uh rub it and uh when I was um watching television when I was uh reading it was just like second nature with me because now I was hooking up here and I was giving energy and this was an automatic giving it energy I found that

to be very uh did it work I don't know but it was successful and uh I would in fact when the children came over and we would have parties and Things I would give them little colored Pebbles and I say these are your little good luck charms uh you know some people have rabbit foots rabbit foot that they carry in their pocket some people have um uh fourleaf clovers Etc uh sometime when you're watching a uh The Price is Right uh these people bring in their little uh what they call luck charms dolls and stuff

that they hold they're giving energy to that but again uh when you have something like That you reinforce you reinforce energy and so that is a plus for you if you want to go that rout well I did and I do I attribute that to that I don't know but I I do know it was successful and I do know that I I kept using that and giving it energy that would be one one way and that is uh projecting out and then seeing yourself as having it now all of a sudden uh you get

a feeling after you um been working with this for such a long time which I did uh I would Get a knowing feeling and let me explain that uh let's say you're going to a a place where they have a a drawing at the end of the night and uh you see this color television and you want it and you have to have each one of you given tickets and uh as she's reading the tickets uh you get real antsy and almost have an adrenaline high and your heart starts beating rapidly and you think oh

God I mean she's reading the last number and it's going To be me it's going to be me uh this is anticipating this is desire that's not knowing the the when you start knowing something you're standing there and there's no uh there's no uh uh anticipation there's nothing you just know they're going to call your name and it's a different feeling and I I need to say that that only comes after you have worked with this for for for a period for a period of time because the more uh the more that I Worked in

entering contests The more energy I projected uh the more readily I was able to uh know when they were going to let us know we won it was a feeling it was a knowing feeling and what makes this so interesting for me is is now that I've had a little publicity and I get a lot of emails and a lot of phone calls and uh with people that are confirming hey I know what you're talking about hey that's happened to me and uh I wasn't Maybe as successful as you were because I got tied up

in other areas and so forth but I would like to go ahead and get started again because there there's there's prizes out there for all just for the asking so then you have now selected it uh you have projected it and then you expect it and then you collect it and when you collect it then you can squeal with delight because I like how simple that Process is and of course there's a lot more to it um there's an AR to selecting there's an AR to projecting um expecting it is a tricky one uh I

know because of experimented it takes a while to build to build up that belief and collecting it is uh probably the most fun of all and once again for those of you listening in go to the winning sage.com special and over there you'll have access to the program where Helen Dives a lot deeper into this process and Teaches you how to apply it into your life and that's really something I want to stress here Helen to to everyone calling in that this is not just about winning competitions it really is about drawing into your life

using the power of your mind to draw into your life things that you feel could enrich your life style and uh um things that you feel would have meaning and pleasure and and bring joy to you and I know you've used this not just for contests but also To achieve some of your goals um such as your book um that was that had around 3 million uh copies um printed and sold and um I also I I also love if there there's one more story I want to ask that you share with us and that

is the story of how you would you could use other people's expectations ations of you to send you energy um I I think I refer to it as the Fishbowl story could you share that with us sure sure uh yes it was shortly after I won uh uh I was Notified of the house and there was a lot of local publicity and uh my husband where my husband worked he was an engineer uh they had their annual Christmas party and that night we're in the audit we're walking in the auditorium and there are hundreds and

hundreds of people there and uh we registered at the door there's a fishbowl there and uh they were giving away a big boom box and they're giving uh away fruit cakes and the dra at the End of the night they had this drawing well when I got in there and uh I looked at the boom box and I looked at my husband I said oh my daughter I said she's wanting one of these boom boxes for Christmas there's her Christmas present and the woman that was U handing out the tickets kind of laughed and she

said yeah it's probably yours and I said sure it is well what happened then all the rest of these people come in and uh and she's telling them she said I don't Know why you're even messing getting a ticket the hadel are here and she's already told me she's going to win the Boon box so but uh we were dancing and uh now see everybody knows now I won the house and they knew I won trips and everything and uh they would actually uh as we were dancing on the dance floor they'd come back I

guess the BL boom box is yours and I would say sure well see all night long I'm getting all their energy and They don't even know it because everything to me is energy and at the end of the night um they're standing there now and it's time for the drawing and my husband's boss is has a fish bowl up there and he said okay we're gonna have the drawing and we're going to they had fruit cakes they drew for fruit cakes and I wasn't interested in that and now is a big prize of the boom

box and he said I'm not even going to uh mess with that let somebody take Over you'll think that I deliberately uh chose the hadel to win this and they're making fun of me and this woman comes up and she said well she's not going to win it I'm going to win it' and she reaches in and she uh gets all these all mixed up I think there were hundreds and hundreds of these little uh tickets in there and she pulls it out and she hands it so my husband's boss could read it and it

was my number I won the boom box and uh they really and truly they did Not know that they were doing or giving this energy toward me and so sometime it can be fun you know you just have a fun thing and another time I was in Hollywood and I had gone to all the uh the talk shows out there or they had a lot of contest um uh radio State I mean television contests and uh when I had when I went out there I wanted to need Arling litter I wanted to be on Queen

for a Day I wanted to be on the um two three shows I Wanted to see but uh during the day uh one of my friends had moved out there and we just went a trip to Disneyland and my husband took the children back home and I says I'm going to spend a week out here and I'm going to see uh I'm going to meet art link litter and I'm going to uh win some some some prizes out here and it was the most exciting week I had ever had really and truly I got in

there Uh one that one morning and uh uh it was a it was a sort of a complicated uh setup where they had a dboard and then they had to pick people from the audience and it was very very complicated and uh I looked at the audience and none of them uh well they all seemed to be winning but they're mostly appliances refrigerators and freezers tele color televisions at that time were very very very uh Power we were're very very good prizes and I'd Already had it color television but my mother in South Dakota said

uh you win all these things win me a a color television and so I'm projecting uh thir color television and I had these two a mother and a daughter sitting beside me and uh I when I won the uh television they said I've never never won anything nothing and and I saidwell what would you like to win and the mother said uh my refrigerator is completely out I would love to win this and uh then we Had a break for lunch and they usually just had a buffet because uh they were they were taping uh

in the day they would tape for three four segments so I stayed there and I said okay after uh after lunch I said let's project that you uh that you get this uh refrigerator well what do we do and I said well let's see your South is having it uh where do you want to put it and uh she thinks it's a game she's playing a game and I I made it so simple uh for Her well after we got back into the auditorium uh all the seats were taken and they only had one one

uh available and I wound up in the middle of the auditorium and she was up almost in the Rapter and we didn't didn't get to sit together and uh now she's pushing I could see she was apprehensive and I'm looking up there nodding and I'm just um putting my hands like a a circle like uh you're going to win you're going to win you know and just encouraging her Mentally and I am very seriously working toward her and one day refrigerator came up uh I am seeing herself as having it and I kept telling her

in her daughter to do the same thing and uh to make a long story short this woman won the refrigerator and what it was was it was a building up of energy again because the auditorium was full at that period but uh when people come in there uh they want to win something but but how what do you uh how are they thinking uh look At uh the competition is so Fierce there's no way I can win it and then they nullify themselves uh this is the reason that I continually continually uh preach uh stay

positive until you have that until you get what you want and then get on to something else and that's the way the game is played it's called to name it and claim it game and uh everybody has this ability I'm not a chosen one and especially now that I hear and I get Confirmation from all the other people that are saying hey I I read your book and one thing that was I I must share this with you because I was out on a lecture circuit now and I do book reviews and so forth and

uh one weekend I um got a a a phone call from a kid in California and he said I had to call you personally to tell you what happened he said I just won a car and $25,000 thanks to you and I said do you mind sharing how you this came about and He said well I'm a a student here and uh uh my parents subsidized me and they're getting kind of tired of that and I went came home for Christmas holidays and I expected to get a nice check but what did my mother get

me for Christmas your book the name it claim it game and she gave me envelopes and stamps and said I should read this book and uh uh win my own contest and start subsidizing myself and he says I was so disappointed and he says all the way Home uh all the way back I'm um pouting and uh really really I'm I'm I'm just very very unhappy but he says she met you at one of your um um when you were on the lecture circuit and and she said well if that woman can do it you

can do it too uh you're smart boy and so forth and that's when he started uh entering contest cuz he had the envelopes and on the stamps and he Said you know Mrs hadsel I think I read your book 40 times I kept saying if she can do it I can do it I followed everything down to the last thing and said and even if I had B he said I'd slap myself and get back on the on the positive and that's when he won his car in his $25,000 those were two things he wanted

but he called me and then another woman wanted to win a trip to uh to Hawaii and one day then uh there's a knock on my door And uh she sent me a l from Hawaii and she says I'm in I'm here enjoying the trip that you helped me win uh it was just her all of a sudden about face and having enough energy and enough enthusiasm and positive thinking she won the trip I had nothing to do with it yeah and it and it wasn't just it wasn't just those kind of wins I mean

we have a letter here from Jane um and this came in shortly after your product was first released and uh Jane won a lottery for Uh $10,000 and2 and she wrote a letter crediting you and the uh the mindset that you that you were able to implant in her and and really that that is what makes your product so so so special you implant into people a mindset that they can use not just to win contest but to um to draw into their life other things that they could want and it's it's really about the

spec system it's about desire belief expectancy um I know you are also heavily influenced by the work Of Jose Silva and you talk about that uh Dr Norman Vincent Peele you talk about him and what he brought in and you really pull together so many of these teachings from the last 100 years um of Mind science philosophy and the Law of Attraction and you digest it into a very simple process that people can Embrace and use over and over and over and over again now for for for those of you listening what what I really

like about Helen and this is how I explain Helen to People is that well you can watch a movie like the secret right and there are 12 or so people in the secret um who have amazing books out and many of these people are my friends I I highly respect them they are amazing teachers and individuals the thing about Helen is she just goes out there and she does it I mean someone who has been able to build a successful business and is wealthy and if they claim it's the law of attraction that helped them

get there you could Argue well maybe it was the Law of Attraction but maybe it was also their MBA but with Helen it's it seems to be a pure manipulation of the laws of probability because how else can a woman win a house out of 2 million other people taking part in that same competition and this really isn't about riding the writing the the correct slogan it's about drawing your name out of the Hat yet Helen's able to do this uh you heard about how she was able to Meet art link letter uh and how

she was able to teach someone in that in that audience to win a refrigerator so the other thing to stress is that it's a teachable system so again if you're ready to get started just go to the winning sage.com sspecial and um I've I've gone through all of hel books I've gone through the DVD and in fact I'm the one interviewing her on the DVD and um the reason I chose to do that is because when I first Stumbled upon her books and her work it just had a profound experience in my life so Helen

um we we now have questions coming in the the interview is almost over but we have a couple of really fascinating questions coming in from different people so I'm going to take these questions now I'm I won't be able to ask every single question we had over a hundred um that have been submitted but what me and my assistant here have been doing as we've been Talking is she's been digesting these questions and sort of identifying the ones that were the most threads okay so let's start with the first question so Linda and Linda is

asking how do I keep negative brain shatter under control and Helen just for the sake of time we need to keep the answers to under five minutes each okay so from Linda how do I keep negative brain shatter under control well you can only think of one thought at a time and if it's not Constructive and creative and positive and then you are what I call your mental musing uh there's a technique that you can do and it's very simple uh putting a rubber band around your wrist is one of them and every time you

something negative comes in anything negative comes you snap the rubber band to remind you to get back on track and stay positive that would be a technique I like that that that's very useful and uh uh I I actually know some people who do Apply that technique um um I I know a marathon runner who applies that technique every time he has a doubt or he feels like quitting it's a really really powerful stuff so let's go on to to the next question this is from Wendy so Wendy is asking when a person has many

things that interest them and they are passionate about how does one give enough um focused energy to all these Endeavors in order to have each of them be Successful I think uh if you're a neite and this is a something that you just started I think I would just take the most important thing and project on it and uh uh then build up and you get to where you have three four goals or end results but to start out I would stay with one of them and just really give it all the energy the positive

energy that you can and then go to another one so that that would be my uh my answer to that uh unless she was a very very Positive person to start out with uh when I first started started out I wasn't that positive let's let's put it that way I was not that positive and uh the fact that I read the book posit the power of positive thinking that's what got me to thinking hey I better be positive I expected uh to accomplish anything here and so that's uh when you get started and then that's

where you move on and then there's nothing really nothing that you can accomplish ACC or You can't have so it's very simple great thanks but back off and I say let's just do one thing at a time thanks Helen and the the next question is from Jackie and Jackie is asking how do you keep positive when so many people in your family intermediate and extended family are negative no matter what I do um they they get me down I try to sing smile and give positive comments I still get knocked down criticized what must I

do To stay positively focused in this sort of environment sometimes I feel defeated uh well you know I just wrote uh I just send something uh I had that question uh put to me and I go back into some of my personal experiences and uh there's all kinds of uh creative ways you're all so intelligent and so uh have so many many uh what I say talents that are dormant and you've never even used it sit there and figure out a way uh one would be if If somebody is continually bad mouthing you or uh

negative or uh criticizing you would be a good word and then I would say I thank you I'm glad you noticed and what you've done then you've nullified the energy you given yourself positive energy and you gave them something to think about and if they hear it often enough and you say thank you I'm glad you noticed that uh they they'll they'll wonder what's going on and they won't voice their opinion Anymore because they're not getting a rise out of you see some people do that for attention don't give them any attention just say thank

you I need it I'm glad you noticed that and there's nothing else that they can do So eventually they just don't they don't even they're not negative anymore they don't want to hear that so that would be one technique so um John asked and this is an interesting question you've sold Millions of books and many use your methods what will happen if two people who have both been trained by by Helen are both going after the same contest let's say both of us two Helen train graduates were um watching balls being drawn for the lotto

and both were Desiring to win who would be the one who would win what is the deter that's simple the one that one the one one that had accumulated the most energy and the next one that had not Accumulated I would not give up I would simply uh continue to do if you've if you've chosen uh numers that you feel are um uh positive for you or they have significance stay with those numbers uh there's never any failure there can be a delay in results and then what you're doing you are nullifying that energy by

not even seeing yourself as already having it granted lotteries I have a lot of competition but somebody's winning who's Winning uh when you start reading in some of these uh journals uh weekly uh at the news stand there's always somebody in there that's won the lottery and they are in being interviewed uh read some of those things uh what they're doing they're using the same numbers the same identical numbers because the numbers have significance for them and uh probably going to the same place and always always seeing Themselves as already having it mentally spending it

so there's they they are the winners and so there's never any competition the only competition is really with yourself when you doubt so you can be your worst enemy thank you Helen that that's that's beautifully said U for those of you listening in uh to find out more go to the winning sage.com sspecial and what you'll get access to over there is essentially a golden key That would give you um a much better um discount plus a whole bunch of additional bonuses should you decide to buy Helen's product I've used the product I personally recommend

it uh that's why I'm the one conducting the interview and um I really think this is valuable stuff for anyone who wants to take the power of their mind to the next level because here you have a woman uh if you've been listening here you you probably realized by now that you have a Woman here who is actually living proof that the laws of probability are not completely completely uh um um sound or foolproof and that with the right attitude and the right mindset you can draw into your life things that you want to to

to attract things that will bring you Joy whether it's competitions or uh a new love or business success or money so Helen let's go on with the questions and um this is an interesting one so Lena asked if you can use your mind to Attract positive things such as contesting wins if is this the same reason why some people repeatedly experience negative things such as being mugged for example and she goes on to add that this had just happened to her mom so how does one how does someone who is in sort of a negative

spiral and is experiencing these negative things how could they over time come out uh well you know desire is a criteria uh some people are negative Because they get attention and then it's a way of life with them and nothing will make them happy uh it has to start with you uh you have to change I call it an attitude adjustment and that's all it is uh the other day I got a letter four Page Letter and all it was was complaining about how everybody mistreated her every physical challenge she had and so forth uh

it just overwhelms you when you hear that and you read four pages of it and What can you tell a person like that uh all I do I have a something here that I mail out because I think if they take the time to write or to email me at least I can respect their wishes and give them some kind of a uplifting encouragement and so what I do is say you need an attitude ad just M and here you can get started and there's a saying you know watch your thoughts they become words watch

your words they become actions uh it comes a way of life with You so you have to want to change your thinking change your thinking and everything around you changes make it constructive creative and positive you're in control you create your Destin Destiny what is it you want and this is this is all I can say and then I repeat it over and over and over again and as Dr Murphy said and incidentally Murphy was a friend of mine and wrote about 42 books on Powers of the subconscious mind but he said you Know something

sometime people have to hear it or read it 42 times before they get it and in some cases that that sometime is necessary for some people because they've been in their rut for such a long long time that's very you're the only yeah you're the only one that can get yourself out of it really that's very true and and Helen here's here's one thing I want to add to that because you just reminded me um of of one thing that happened when I started when I Started studying your material see now I've been a student

of the Mind in the Law of Attraction for many many many years as you know I used to teach um I was a silver method instructor and the silver method um um had profoundly influenced you as well so I always thought that I knew this stuff but when I met you um in September 2008 uh when I came to visit you in Texas and we were talking I learned stuff from you that never ever crossed my mind um and what You just said about having to reread the book 42 times reminded me of this sometimes

you you you may have to learn the same thing but from a slight different angle of from a different teacher and all of a sudden it clicks and what clicked with me I'm not going to give away too much in this teles seminar because I know this is one of those Advanced topics um and that we not we would not even bring up in this teles seminar because it could be a little bit Uh uh too advanced for many people but what you said that clicked with me was the power of tapping into guides my

my guides or Angels or whatever you want to call them but the power of tapping into these guides to add additional energy to what I was trying to manifest and when I started doing that uh my ability to draw things into my life just magnified it exploded and my life has never been has really not been the same since um so anyway for those of you listening in Keep in mind that even if you feel you've heard it all that you've watched the secret 42 times often hearing something different hearing the same thing repeated by

a different teacher with their tiny spin on it can do one this cuz all of a sudden you have that wakeup calling that one piece of the puzzle that has been missing suddenly enters into your life and that's when things really change that was what happened with me when I heard about this Whole concept of guides true Helen and this is one of those Advanced concept that that will be covered in the product that you will find on the winning sage.com slsp special okay Helen next question and this is from Marshall Marshall says he's been

using your system to try to win money at the casino and over time he's found that he does win way more than he loses but he does lose sometimes too overall he's making a game but what he wants to find out is How can he increase the rates of his winning uh I um we're going to get into something here that may be a little more advanced here um uh when um you are in a group a crowded group and uh you you start becoming very very sensitive to their vibrations to their energies uh you

know we all have an our our an aura around this a field of energy and then when you're in close proximity with someone you pick up their energy also and that can be a little difficult and So what I do and this is going to sound off the wall but you ask me so I'm going to tell you um when you're out with a group whether it's a casino or whatever uh see yourself encased in a bubble of light of energy uh this is encased in a bubble of energy and then nothing can penetrate that

or come in uh now as I said it sounds off thewall but I have I'm blessed with all of these beautiful uh Advanced metaphysical friends that come to visit me and do you know that When they come in they can come in the door and they'll start smiling and look at their the friend that they brought and they say they would say Helena has her has her uh Shield up in other words she you can't you're not going to be able to read her or to Cy her out because she has her Shield up Okay

this may sound real real far out but believe me beautiful people this happens to us we are subjected to other people's energy and I ventured to say when you Start using this bubble of energy around you uh no one nobody can penetrate it they they don't know what it is uh you can be positive in there but they cannot penetrate it someone else can see it uh if they're uh if they have these abilities and so this is uh something that uh uh in fact a couple of months ago I was talking to jov Vel

and I said listen I said you keep that energy around you uh when you're on lecture tour I did this all the time Incidentally when I was on tour all these years and before I got on the podium I would just put this light energy around me I never had any hecklers uh some of them would have you know hecklers Etc I never had a problem with that never never and I attribute that to uh to having uh well the light of protection is what it is so that I mean that's that would be my

answer to that thanks Helen and um so Now now we have a question from Ken and oh and just before I read this question just wanted to say joval an amazing teacher and uh I really uh one of the things he said in his blog post that that I just now remember is that he said Helen hadel should have been featured in The Secret and and I honestly wish they had featured you but that was an amazing endorsement to get from Jo Bal yeah well it wasn't meant to be I say if it's meant to

be it'll fall in Place but I hadn't even thought about that absolutely so okay next question this is from A lady called Ken and she says sometimes um as we are going through this process something happens uh say we lose the first contest or we lose our first or we don't uh get our first desire and um we get into a feeling of being let down and discouraged how do we overcome this feeling and continue with high energy okay um I I voiced it the same Way I said there's never never any failures there can

be a delay in results and as I said earlier uh when there's a delay in results it simply means someone else had more energy for that particular thing than you did that doesn't necessarily mean that there's not another one out there for you it just means there was a delay a temporary delay in results that's my attitude with everything we have a delay in results uh The other day uh something closer to home and this may sound wow I was sitting here the other day and I love we have a a Baskin Robins ice cream

place here but they make probably the best um coconut macaroons of anybody in the whole world I love their uh they macaroons I'm thinking and thinking God I would like to have some of those macaroons I feel like going out it's still 102 here in Texas and so I try to stay in where it's comfortable and would You believe uh you had to be here today when my son walked in the door and this is not he took the day off in fact and coming uh coming out here which is a 32 miles he uh

he stopped at A Basin Robins bought these and I never mentioned anything to anybody I just thought about them and he comes in with his package of coconut macaroons and puts it on the table and I said oh oh I said was that my thought or your thought and he says probably your Thought but this this happens more and more all the time when you're projecting even little little thing like macaroons I mean this is can be unreal and so the other day I was invited uh to go out to um uh one of um

my H uh one of my friends friends uh was giving a dinner party uh she had a an Indian and she was cooking this Indian food and I was invited and I decided Well I don't think I want to go because it would be a long drive into Fort Worth I just want to mess with it I love my space out here and uh so I said well I would like to taste the Mexican I mean the uh the Indian food cuz I'm not that familiar with it but but there'll be an opportunity when I

have you know when I can taste it would you believe my son who was uh going into Fort Worth and had stopped there to uh give her uh he was he bought some things for somebody that was at that party and while he's at the party uh he's eating I mean tasting this Food and the woman uh fixed a whole big bowl of this Indian food for me and that's what I had for lunch today I never told her I just thought I would like try some of this Mexican I mean this uh Indian food

so start looking for things like that they happen every day uh what brought those to you what were you thinking how did it come about and then you can squeal with delight like when I looked there and he he brought these coconut macaron I've already eaten two in a with a cup of tea but see it's little things like that that make your day that's beautiful and I I I love that lesson Helen because because a lot of people think that that that you use spec and the various stuff you teach just for the big

things but really it's about daily things I use it when I'm missing a particular friend and I I'm hoping that they'd shoot me an email or give me a call or I might use it if uh like you said if I'm Desiring a Certain kind of food and I find that that particular food just pops into uh uh my life that that day or the subsequent day a friend might invite me out to that thigh restaurant when I was thinking about thigh food or something along those lines but it is really beautiful when it happens

and when you start logging these tiny successes it boosts your belief system and then the bigger and bigger and bigger successes come yes you create you create these Your destiny really and truly and uh why not make us positive I mean life is so beautiful exciting all the time when you're positive in all these things I mean here at my age I can squeal with delight uh when when things happen it's never never like a daal it's always an adventure yeah and and what we're doing right now actually is uh I think we we're almost

preempting the the answer to uh to one of our most popular questions we had two people ask this Question Marina and Nancy both asked the same question and that is how do I build up my faith and belief that's essentially the question they they worded it a little bit longer but I'm summarizing it Helen how would you answer that okay uh do you know there are so many many wonderful wonderful books uh so many want do it to do-it-yourself thing really um when you're initially wanting to get started and that's like Keeping a journal just

get one of these little composition books and start writing down your thoughts uh what are you in the morning when you're getting up what do you feel like uh is it negative or you know some of these older people sit there and look at themselves what's going to hurt today and at the end of the day they can barely move because they've given that much energy to their foot or whatever uh we all have little physical challenges That's part of of living here but uh if it does I mean if you did get up and

uh say you had an arthritic pain someplace and you'll say I don't need it I'm in control of this body it's mind over matter I'm in control of the B straighten yourself up and then make a cup of tea and then think of something uplifting good music listen to good music read a good book uh there's many many many little I have a deck of cards here that someone gave me and they're Called Angel cards and I was so impressed impressed with them that I I've given them I've given well at least a dozen to

my friends because they're so uplifting and there's so many good good thoughts of the day and start keeping a journal writing them down and then rereading them and giving them energy and this makes you feel better it just uh well you just get a whole new lease on life you're in control remember of what you think so make it constructive Positive and creative thank you Helen and that's a beautiful way to to wrap up this entire interview for those of you listening I hope you gained some some some useful tips and advice over here and

if you really want to take this to the next level and uh really dive into the kind of stuff that Helen talks about go to the winning sage.com slsp special don't forget the website starts with the thinning w n n n g Sage s a.com slsp special and that's where You'll really get access to um this this amazing program I completely recommend it I've learned um some great stuff from Helen as I explained earlier and when you buy it from the winning sage.com special that's really where you'll get the best deal so um just a

reminder that do not buy from the main page of the website buy it from the special uh URL that we're giving you right now as part of this T seminar slsp special and it'll be up for the next 48 hours uh so do do Go ahead and do that right now Helen thank you so much it's been amazing talking to you um those of you listening in please keep in mind that Helen recently changed to spelling of her name so if you do Google her online um her previous name was Helen h l n now

it's Helen he l n e did I pronounce that correct yes uhhuh yes I've done this years and years ago perfect uh it rang true I mean I I like it's it's softer and it was just one of my my little Things that I wanted to do wonderful and can I say one more thing yes please go ahead okay um I want to tell uh when you're positive beautiful people out there uh and it's a way of life with you and then I'm again going to recommend that you're keeping this uh Your Daily Journal you're

going to find that you're all of a sudden going to have this calm contented feeling it's going to surface and it realize what life in the physical is all about you're going to find Yourself uh more as an observer and and your understanding of people will take on a whole new perspective uh so there's lots and lots of bonuses that you get simply by being positive and I would highly highly recommend that you go ahead and uh keep a journal uh and uh uh refer to it and always make it creative and positive and constructive

Helen what what do you recommend I I love that idea quick question what do you recommend we write In that journal all our thoughts are just a list of our successes our positive successes uh yes uh if if you're waking up and and you have a physical challenge uh then go unto something uh I have um my ability to heal is Amplified I'm Healed I'm Healed and then go to something else uh listening to music uh making um I I had this vivid imagination um like for instance now I have a flowers out here four

different Rose bushes and I sit in the morning when I get have my morning tea I go out there and sit before it gets too warm and I visualize some blooming for me and the next morning I have abundant uh R red rose and then the next morning I want the white ones and I want the pink ones and the yellow ones and my son comes over and he said mother have you been playing with the flow mentally playing with the flowers again this is energy this is energy and Uh using your energy if you

don't use it you lose it you know and so these are games that I play and that and that what you're talking about is is is very similar to the Gratitude exercise it's something I do every day and it's a very powerful exercise and it's something that I know you um cuz you've showed me your gratitude book those of you listening in when you do get the product from the winning sage.com special you will get a a a link to a software uh It's actually an online community where people share gratitude messages with each other

that's something to look out for I'm on it it's really really really useful and it's one of those things that will really help you overcome um um in a massive way negative doubts of things that are holding you back once you make this of your daily practice Helen once again thank you it was wonderful having you I love I love all the conversations I have with you for those of you Listening in go to the winning sage.com slsp special c a l i um look forward to seeing all of you on the other side thanks

Helen and thank you all for listening in and thank you for letting me share with you hi Helen how are you this is this is V Lani absolutely fabulous how how was your Christmas uh well it was just another day I had the family here but I am so intrigued with all of the emails that I'm getting from people all over The world it's just is very very exciting that so many people are interested in their spiritual growth and you're giving them the opportunity to learn a little bit more about themselves so wouldn't that a

perfect day perfect you were telling me you were getting around 50 emails a day right now yes yes uhhuh and uh and that's that's pretty astonishing because we we did not give out your email address anywhere on the website uh because I I knew the swarm of Of responses You' get we had uh so far 13,000 people uh listen to the interview that we did together um that somehow people are so excited about what they heard you speak about that they are Googling online and and they are somehow digging up your personal contact information which

is in a way creepy but in a way also kind of exciting it shows how much people adore you and and like your message well I'm not I'm just another Person and I'm just absolutely sincere about telling people what their potential is there's so many many out there that really are not using their talents their mind I mean it's it's mindboggling to me uh so I'm happy to help any way that I can perfect well what we're going to do in this in in this particular T seminar Helen is um last night I sent an

email to everyone who signed up the the I sent an email only to the first 10,000 people who Signed up to purchase the uh the new DVD and book set that that you're going to be releasing in January and I asked them for their biggest question for Helen hat so I have had a ton of emails come in and what we did was we've been going through all the emails and of course not everybody is going to have their question asked but what we are looking for are specific Trends questions or themes that pop up

multiple times we have compiled these Trends and what we Want to do in for the next um uh 1 to two hours we're probably going to have to split this into two separate teleseminars that's just a ton of questions but what we're going to do is ask you the most the biggest most common questions that people are having since watching you in the DVD and reading your book um so are you uh are you all set to get going we'll do the best we can okay so this is going to be a free flow uh

There's not going to be any um um specific Direction I'm simply going to go with the most common question so let's start with what is perhaps the most um frequently requested piece of information from you and that's basically this and it and um so far I've seen this question just come in from Judy from Bob from Paulina I'm not going to give people's last names to protect your privacy but here's the question the question is we love the spec system what We'd like to know is how long do I have to stay focused on a

particular goal in order to see the outcome in order to see it manifest itself how many times a day how many affirmations how long weeks months how do I how long do I have to stay focused on the outcome that I desire it varies uh you know when you're really and truly wanting something how important is it to you you should be thinking about it you can write it down uh it comes to mind or you can Deliberately sit and focus on it uh five minutes 10 minutes uh your thoughts on that thing you're sending

energy to it this is very very important so how long will it take it depends it depends how much energy it needs uh don't ever ever admit failure there can be a delay in results kids but everything that I have ever set out to do I can truthfully say it has manifested yes I think that does answer the question Helen I I do have a follow-up question this comes from Angie And relates to the first question now Angie's issue is how do you stay focused on your intentions how do I stay positive and not let

negative ideas or influences come in to distract me you see I start off with an intention and then I get distracted and then I realize a week or two later that I'm no longer working on this intention and I have to start all over again and it's really frustrating and I end up quitting so how do you stay focused and positive Well of course I've done this for such a long period it's it's just easy for me to do it but as a beginner if you have this um uh frustration Etc why don't you just

write it down why don't you just keep it in a on a piece of paper or in a book something that you can look at all the time uh in the car you're in the car most of the time just pin it to the dashboard pin it on the refrigerator in the bathroom on the mirror there are so many many ways then then your mind will Get back on it I can truthfully say that we are influenced with people around us what they are thinking and it is a distraction but then come on use these

little tools here until you become confident and are able to automatically remember kids you can only think of one thing at a time and if other things are coming in and you need that to focus on and then do these little things by writing it putting it on the mirror and And uh on the dashboard as I suggested then it'll then it'll come to you you'll be giving it energy and believe me it works so it's so then it's about um so then what you're saying Helen is it's may take a while to come it

really depends on how much energy uh the outcome requires and it's really a question of Simply staying focused and to keep pouring energy into this this thought this desire yes am I right yes now specifically in your case What have you found to be specific tools or methods or systems that have worked for you that have allowed you to stay focused no matter how long it took that have allow you to allowed you to stay focused on the outcome you were seeking I think uh if there'd be one answer to that it would be how

really really much do you desire something when you desire something and then you're going to make you're going to make it work because you're thinking about it And you know as I said earlier uh the power of positive thinking you know when Vincent peel when I read that book and I was so so impressed and I'm the kind of a person that's got to prove things to myself and that's when I started it was a flippant way uh like my husband wants a a a a motor I mean a motor for his boat okay how

often did I think about that all the time I wanted him to have that boat motor and yes I gave a thought and I was it was humorous because I kept Saying I wonder how long it's going to take him to let us know we won and it it took I think two or three weeks until the contest was over with and then when they called him I just just assumed okay now now what else do we want it was it was flippant it was um a desire that was important to me because maybe I

wanted to prove that Vincent Peele had something going and evidently he did by suggesting this and then taking a hold of it I call it hook Line and thinker and that's what you do and you take a hold of it and you think about it constantly until it manifests so that's what I did oh yes I had to do other things you know uh mundane things but that was the focus that uh that kept me going just uh he needs that outboard motor I've seen the outboard motor and that was it because you know initially

when it started I sat in my chair and pretended like I was my Husband and I wrote the words that um at that time we had to write 25 words or less and so I wrote well I he wanted it and you know he's a lone wol fisherman and so forth and uh uh from that point on I just just uh I didn't even doubt kids I didn't even doubt I didn't discuss it with anybody except my husband and it we'd laugh about it and I say wonder how it's going how long it's going to

take them so I don't know every case worked Different and so there's not one answer I and I love that line you just used Hook Line and thinker Helen have you noticed that because i' I've heard other mind philosophers such as Jose Silva say this but the first time you you you try to manifest something it may take a while but every time you have a success it helps build up your belief system and the next thing you try to manifest H comes to you quicker and quicker and quicker and Quicker and pretty soon you

find that you can manifest things extremely rapidly no longer in weeks or months but in a matter of days or even hours have you found that to be true in your experience definitely and then it was called I was called lucky and then I was called a witch and that's when I coined the word not witchcraft but wish wi I wishcraft I'm good at that what what was the fastest what was The fastest fastest thing you ever manifested I think uh the night that we went to the dance uh it was right around Christmas time

and I was just told I won the house and my husband and I went to the dance and we walked in there and there Big Boon box on the table and uh Christmas uh cake and stuff as the door prizes at the end of the night and when I registered to put my name in this in this fish bowl I said I want that Boon box for my daughter for Christmas and ever she laughed and as people came in she said the hatchel are here and Mrs hatel already won the boom box and so what

was so interesting is all night long we were dancing and people would stop and say oh she's lucky she won a house Etc and now she's got she already has the boom box or why should I register she's already one and what they were doing they were giving me energy and they they were not even aware of it and so at the end of the night When they drew the name and um my husband's boss said I want nothing to do with this and he handed the bowl over to somebody else and this woman comes

up and she says well they're not going to get it it was sort of like a joke and she reaches in and hands the name and the man read the name and it was it was the hatel I mean I won that boom box that's that's hilarious so when you walk in you you had not actually won the boom box you simply declared that you were Going to win and other people because they knew you had just warn the house they thought you were some kind of witch you had some sort of Lucky spell they

too assumed you were going to win the boom box this added more energy to you win and your name ended up being drawn that that is a beautiful story so I I have a question here from Kathy um what what you just talked about Helen was an example where people expect you To win now Kathy's question is about the opposite she says do you have any method of disconnecting the negative emotion that others close to you create from time to time sometimes um people your kids or your spouse do off course because they expect you

to fail how do you prevent other people's negativity from getting you off course uh you know uh we should we should really and truly give that some thought because the minute that you declare that You're going to win something there's always somebody that's going to say what makes you think you can win it or ha haa you never won it or look at the competition you have well that is negative there and uh it really and truly makes you have to to work harder longer and stronger to guard off that negative feeling this is the

reason I never told anybody um what I was working toward now I granted the night that I was in at the dance this was sort of a Funny thing and uh usually I don't tell people what I'm working toward I don't give them an opportunity to be negative and if uh you're working and all of a sudden this negative thing comes and says what makes me think I'm going to win it uh you better believe somebody else is projecting that energy for toward you and when that comes to your mind you can only think of

one thing at a time you just say cancel cancel or deliberately say but I am a winner I Know I'm going to win and then go ahead and boost yourself up again don't don't waste that energy you've got the energy you work with energy at all times MH so what you're saying is really keep it to yourself yes until until you have enough confidence I'm flipping I'm flipping now and uh I just say Okay want this or whatever and uh my my son here who is so good at picking up every time it's hilarious absolutely

hilarious this Morning he came in to bring in the mail and this morning I'm thinking of cherries oh I'd love to have some cherries and I know they're out of season and can you believe the kid came in and uh plunked a bag of cherries on in the kitchen cabinets and he said I was grocery shopping this morning and I kind of figured you'd like some of these cherries so was that his or idea or mine it was my idea and he picked it up uh When you're in close proximity with people uh it can

be a very it could be an ongoing thing and it seems to be that way with my son so we have fun in games here all the time mhm I see what you mean now now in in in the case of of the first question I asked you the person um her solution would be to Simply keep her goals her intentions private but what if what if even if you were private about what you were trying to manifest there was Someone in your life who was a negative influence now this question comes from Kathy she

says is it possible to turn a relationship that's going nowhere around I'm 52 I've been seeing a man for nearly 3 years he's a workaholic he's stubborn and this relationship is going nowhere and he refuses to pay attention to me I've threatened that I want that I'm going to start dating other people he says he's going to turn his life around it doesn't happen I'm confused can I Choose to influence his behavior to turn this relationship around with my own mind uh you have the principles there how important is it to you do you really

want it or have you outgrown this person you never can change anybody don't even try uh you can project and they can accept it or reject it and no you're never able to influence anybody I wouldn't even uh I wouldn't even attempt that on material things yeah it's okay but to talk to a person and convince Them on something that's ongoing uh is it worth it how is how much is it worth it how much do you really and truly want it or have you outgrown it uh he has his own personality and so do

you and even if you are married uh there's going to be things that are going to be coming up constantly you're not compatible in all areas those are just story books real life let's face it uh life happens one darn thing right after another and how You pursue it or how you look at it that's entirely up to you and um Kathy Kathy goes on to write this is the second part of her question she she wrote a a fairly long email I am confused as to what I should be selecting should I be selecting

that our relationship has turned around and that we are both sharing many wonderful and awesome moments together and that our relationship that move to a higher ground or should I be selecting that I'm Attracting someone else who can give me what I want my greatest wish is for this relationship that I've had for the last 3 years to grow in Blossom but what do I do so in this in this scenario Helen what would you advice to Kathy Dian and by the way this is a different Kathy this is Kathy with a K uhhuh well

I uh when someone comes up and uh in my counseling capacity and asks uh what um I want this this particular man and uh what can I do to get him Etc and so Forth uh there is a set a quest there is a set what I would say petition to this I would recommend you say I would like the perfect man with light interests to gravitate to me and that's all I would say if you're going to be specific he's got to have long hair and drive a Cadillac or whatever uh this will manifest

uh uh down the road how how important it is to you uh I would be comfortable getting the Perfect Mate with like Interests and of course that's just me because I happen to have the Perfect Mate for for 60 years and yes we worked at it sure there's always little uh areas that need to be addressed but it's been a fun fun life so what you're wanting is the perfect with like interests now if it's the guy that you're uh currently seeing or there might be somebody else out there that will fill your needs you

have to ask What is it that you want you want this guy or do you want the perfect guy with like interests I can't give you an answer on that one I I I think I think you just G I think you just gave a perfect answer now um in Kathy situation are you trying to say that if she if she used the style of positive statement that you just said I want the perfect man with light with light interest does just mean that either she would manifest a new person Or that her current boyfriend

would change in terms of his behavior towards her that's what is uh that's what makes life so exciting if he is the perfect M mate with like interests and then there she she already has that or if or it might be another person but this is her this is what she wants now and how important is it to her if it's that important then I would continually project for it perfect perfect and this brings us to Our next question it's on life purpose versus what you want this question comes from Francisco and what Francisco says

this uh she's having a little bit of difficulty understanding how spec relates to this particular philosophy the philosophy is just philosophy is is the idea that if you set a goal and that goal is not aligned with your higher self no matter what you do uh no matter how powerfully you use the spec formula it will not happen because you're not Meant to get it uh because of the deeper soul level there's something else that you're meant to do for example if a person wants to be a professional football player and is really meant to

be a spiritual uh teacher um that his higher self will not allow his dreams of being a football player to manifest so Francisco wants to know what are your views on this philosophy uh do you agree with him um do you agree with the idea that you cannot manifest anything it has To be something that is in tune with your higher self oh that's such a good question and I'm so glad he asked that uh this is the reason uh when I when I deal with people or talk to people and so forth I always

ask them their birth dates and uh when you figure out your birth date uh at the end I mean you know uh month day year uh then you have what I call your mission this lifetime and I have found that to be so so credible because uh what is Your mission you say you want to be a basball player or you want to do this or that but maybe your mission is to be an actor or may to be an artist or to be a a Pioneer where go to go where no man's gone before

uh when you find out your mission you are going to it's it's just so exciting you're going to uh gravitate toward what you came into this lifetime to do and it's going to be very very satisfying this doesn't mean that you can't be a football player you can go Ahead uh go ahead and do it but to really and truly be comfortable and and just I I would say Blissful is when you're doing what you're supposed to be doing when you know what your mission this lifetime is so that's that would be my answer my

lifetime is to be an adventurer okay and that's what it's been some are meant to be a writer and when you write it there's such a feeling of oh I finally found my place in the Sun in the fun and you take it from there so what you're saying Helen is you can manifest anything you want it's just that if you choose something that is aligned with your mission it tends to be more of a downhill Journey rather than an uphill Journey that's right that's right you can still manifest it but uh your mission is

the one that's going to be rewarding gratifying and satisfying got it okay and let's go on to the next question and this is from Richard Helen he says I have read that emotion plays a large part of manifesting how do you cater your emotions how do you use them to facilitate the manifesting process and can you give examples of this emotion gosh uh I I always say I I want it so bad I can taste it that's an emotion yes emotion can be very very uh what I call Beneficial there's an excitement there there's a

feeling of knowing and there's just a a feeling of Laugh when you get it it's emotion does it it's more of abundant energy is what it is and so if you can do things emotionally uh it manifests faster right what you're talking about when you say emotions I take it is is feelings of joy happiness positive expectancy is that what you mean yes uhhuh and uh I I also emotion can be hate hate fear Envy jealousy pain these are all emotions And one segment in I my book I want to uh clarify here I said

uh when we have a physical discomfort which is called pain uh there there's where you're going to get some feedback kids when you have this pain and you concentrate on the pain it comes and surges of almost almost can knock you out that's you're giving pain more energy by concentrating on it when you change that pain to Healing the same pulsation is there but It's completely different it feels like surges surges and all of that intense intense pain is gone and you've got surges and surges of healing uh I recommend this you know in child

birth uh when you're having tooth challenges because the mouth seems to be so sensitive there or when you hurt yourself and immediately rub it and say healing healing healing healing and all of that throbbing of of uh hurt energy dissipate because you've changed the Energy now into healing did that cover that mhm yes yes okay now now now Richard goes on to ask um how do you deal with feelings of guilt when you are trying to manifest something big that you think might help you in your life but do you to past programming or whatever

you feel guilty about asking for it how would you deal with that situation well there uh you might call It the con job I say uh I would write this down I would say in the past I had the idea that I was not worthy of something I refuse to live in the past and when you repeat that or when you say it over and over again and then that guilt feeling is dissipated I had to do this quite often uh when I do counseling and that's I even write it down on a piece of

paper And give it to that person and say keep looking at this because you're living in the past and we're in the now and you are worthy of whatever it is you want to deal to have don't live in the past I I like that and I I I like that exercise now this this leads to another question this is um it's actually also by Francisco now he he ask some pretty deep questions now here's the second question she says um Helen in your course can you Clarify how to deal um with past programming that

is negative in nature for instance uh you may consciously set an intention to be wealthy but at the same time you may have a subconscious programming that says money is the root of all evil rich people are selfish now if you have this past programming there's a part of you that will sabot your desire to attract more wealth so how do you deal with this path programming how do you get rid of It would it would it be the same the same process yes uhhuh the same I mean that would be that's very very effective

incidentally uh just write it down write it down in the past I had this feeling I refused to live in the past and you can um but keeping positive words with it but I'm telling you it works it's very very very effective yes and I I just want to I just want to share one thing over here a lot of the people who who buy the Winning stage program especially given the current situation in the US one of the deepest desires they have right now is to be financially secure or even to be wealthy but

what I've noticed about a lot of people and I used to teach I used to teach the Sila class so I've noticed a lot of people have a negative attitude towards well they believe rich people are bad they they believe money is the root of all evil some of them have really silly beliefs such as they would Feel guilty if they were making more money than their parents for whatever reason they feel it's bad to be earning more than their parents or than their neighbors or their Community what I found is that is that these

past programming is one of the biggest reasons people are trapped in poverty or in dep and uh being able to eliminate these pth programmingsoftware just it now let we'll we'll we'll move on to the uh the The next question unless you have anything else to add on on this subject uh yes um it's difficult in this time because you're picking up the mass energy the mass thinking of the majority of people now and you are when you're sensitive you're picking this up uh even on the radio or on the television and so forth I just

block it out just simply block it out and uh if it takes you're reading that over then do it I think that should cover It now this question regards um it's related again to what we've been talking about it's about getting out of dep and it comes from uh um Quinn now Quinn's situation is this if someone is currently in depth well his question is if someone is currently in depth what would be the best way to use the knowledge in Helen DVD and book um to help them come out of that I apologize if

this is an odd question it's just that I'm currently struggling and would Like to get out it feels as though I'm sinking deeper and deeper and that's one of the main reasons I purchased this program Mrs Hansel wow is all I can say on that one uh you're wanting instant gratification it took you long time to get into that hole probably by overspending and and and so forth so it's going to take a little while I mean it's not an overnight thing you you created it now you Uncreated and it may take a little while

and it may be like spoon feeding but it's it's possible it's possible but in the meantime you can also uh what I could say visualize yourself being free and out of debt happy and content and there's no time period on that because see you created all this now you uncreate it but you want to have a stepping up process then go see yourself as being uh sitting there and uh everything is is taken care of and Everything is balanced because when you're balanced financially physically and spiritually there's such a good good good feeling and I'm

sure you don't have that now because of all the deck and of all the pressure but who caused that you did you did to start out with so now undo it and get back in track to become normal I mean to be uh what I would say balanced not what you wanted to hear kid but uh you put yourself there now it'll Take a little while to get out of it right and and and for everyone who's listening who might be in this situation it is a tough situation what typically happens is because you are

in a feeling of depth of a feeling of lack what happens is even if when you try to manif more money the the stress the the negativity the uh the your spouse complaining to you about being in that situation of depth uh not being able to afford things you want those negative Vibes pull you down and you're constantly stuck in your current reality um now there are steps to get out but it does take a while I I would like to re Helen if I may I would like to recommend some some programs uh uh

um three programs that people might want to look into um that are compatible with spec that might help them with this particular situation so so the first is go to the website the sgr program sgr stands for science of getting rich It's a title of an old book by Wallace watles written in the 1910s again it's D sgr program.com they have a free seven-part course um sign up for that course and this course talks about shifting your mental attitude uh towards acquiring wealth or coming out of depth I helped co-author the course with with my

friend Bob Proctor um and and and Jack Canfield so do check it out the sgr program.com and once again it's free the other thing I do want to recommend for People like Quinn or anyone else who might be stuck in depth is buy the book secrets of The Millionaire Mind by T har Becker what hav talks about is basically how to switch your mindset how to overcome past negative programming about money and how to come out of that and he'll give you a couple of step-by-step tips um how to gradually move out of it and

move into a frame of mind Where You Are attracting money once again okay but now We'll go on with with some additional questions for Helen Helen is there anything else you'd like to add in regards to that I think you've covered all bases I mean it's a it's something that you have to read and accept and then do it just don't read it do something about it write it down get excited about it this is what I'm going to do now so you've got that energy to get started great great and and let's go on

To another Pro to another serious issue that that a lot of people brought up and this is uh health issues now this question comes from Connie Connie's question is how do I use the spec system to help me get out of this uh uh Health situation I'm in right now basically Connie has an issue with constant migraines and headaches and uh she's wondering if she can use spec to help help heal herself uh definitely of course you know There's a lot of allergies now we're not going to say that uh everything is a miracle uh

we are in a place here where there's allergies and you're allergic to this and allergic to that and there's medication that's necessary uh if it's NE if if that's what it takes to get you out of it and then I say well I'm not a doctor remember I'm just doing what I feel I I myself do I can share what I do but that doesn't mean I'm a doctor uh when I get A headache I sit there and all all I do is put my two fingers my thumb and my forefinger right between my nose

and while I'm sitting there and rocking I'll just say it's gone gone gone gone and that's it I don't take asirin I I just don't take medication but that's me and I as I say every one of you is different every one of you has your ideas of what will heal you this is my Idea this is my way of healing my headache it works for me now you take it if you want to or do whatever you want to with it so that's my answer wonderful thanks for sharing Helen now with that we'll we'll

wrap up part one of the T seminar and uh we will be having several follow-up T seminars and for all of you listening in thank you for listening uh part one will be available uh as soon as we get this edited and up on the website and very soon we'll be launching part Two as well thank you okay everyone we are back this is vishion Lani we're back with Helen hsel this is part two of our Tela seminar where we are asking Helen the biggest questions from the first 1,000 people who grabbed a whole of

Helen's uh book and DVD um set the winning Sage so let's get on with the questions Helen now Helen how how are you feeling today fantastic fantastic okay well so let's start with the first question now This question comes from Alex and the question is as follows visualizing is fairly easy but how do you deal with that part of you that that voice in your headp that says this is pure nonsense this is just another Law of Attraction uh uh cor job it's all rubbish I believe in Helen I believe in the spec system but

I have these negative voices in my head how do I silence these voices of skepticism so I can stay focused on my goal okay now I'm going to say this over And over and over again you can only think of one thing at a time only one thing at a time you're in control of your thinking if it's not positive creative then I would abort it and get back on track of thinking positively uh you know last last time we talked I had uh some something that I read about uh watch your thoughts they become

words watch your words they become actions watch your actions they Become habits watch your habits they become character watch your character for it becomes your destiny you know something uh when I when I said that the last time I can say I had about 15 emails from people all walks of life I mean from all over the world really and they said I wrote that down and I kept looking at it and looking at it and realizing how potential how fantastic it is watch your thoughts and said it gave me a whole new lease on

life thank you Thank you thank you so I repeated it again and write it down kid if you didn't get it the first time mhm I like that now here's another question and it's it's it's somewhat similar um well at least it's related and it comes from Lynn she said I listened to the uh the first six chapters of the of DVD 1 uh and I understand that to expect means to not have doubt that something is coming my way but how do I relate the concept of Expectancy to a specific time Horizon horon for

example would it be correct for me let's say I'm trying to manifest a certain amount of money would it be correct for me to give it a deadline say February 28th 2009 uh when you do that when you first start out uh I'm going to tell you you you might get disappointed because it doesn't come on that date I I very seldom put a date on something and when I did in the past and It did not manifest uh do you know what I told myself okay there's no failure there's just a delay in my

results and then I would continue to project and down the road it would come but it might not come on the 28th the day that I designated for it to come I see so what you're saying is don't worry about the deadline just set a goal understand that it's going to be coming yes yes soon uhhuh okay but but what if it takes forever What what is if um I mean they they there must be a way to reconcile this uh well you know majority of people are impatient Anda patience is a virtue just the

thing so you cultivate patience that's all uh it uh I get uh on my email this humorous uh someone someone orders a book let's say and on the email when am I going to get it and when did you mail it out and this is p Impatience I have no way of uh determining a date and an hour that she's going to receive it but there's still people out there that think they can do everything it's it's impossible you can do many many many things with your thoughts and your minds but there are limitations right

unless I can tell teleported to you you know right I mean one when when when I hear a question like that one piece of advice that does Come to mind is Jose Silva's advice um as you know he he he was a great friend of yours he had a line in his book um and and that that quote was don't jump the gun basically what he says is start with something small if your reservoir of faith is not yet strong enough start with something small and um when that comes to you you build up your

reservoir of faith and you can go on to something big and then something bigger and then Something bigger and you can manifest things faster but the point is start with something small that you believe can come to you any moment now don't start with something big that you think might take years for you to bring into your reality you want to start with something small get a small success build up your reservoir of state and then keep aiming for bigger and bigger and bigger things and that's how you can grow and and develop this ability

to Manifest new outcome very rapidly do you do do you agree with that oh definitely definitely definitely and I will tell you something uh when you cultivate this yes uh you will uh have this ability things will come to you faster and then you can say so what else is new you know almost become fluent with it but start out small yes wonderful okay well let's go on to this this question and uh this question Is on illness and it comes from Scott Scott says how do you avoid the negative outcome that has been presented

itself as a probability now what happened to Scott was he was diagnosed uh recently with a life-threatening disease uh he's wondering what he can do with spec to say beat the odds uh you know a number of years ago uh there was a book and I I met the man but I don't recall the book and he had Um uh was working with cancer patients and he would um go ahead and whatever I mean let's say you had a tumor or something and you could manifest over and over and over again playing games of the

good men and the bad men and all of a sudden uh the Good Men uh winning out and and eliminating this cancer it was very very powerful and very popular at that time I I'm sure that that system still works and whatever it is whatever challenge we Have uh we're needing to do something about it and it never hurts I mean you're going to have um cons medical consultations etc etc and whatever it is if it's negative or it's limitating and then I would threaten it I would say what makes him think that I'm going

to be uh inhabilitate what makes him think I refuse to be that way so there you're canceling that out already and uh I'm not saying uh that doctors aren't doing Uh a great job they are but you're in control of your body kid it's your decision what do where do you want to go from here and I've seen miracles absolute Miracles performed in an attitude and it's difficult when you get negative negative negative because you're working here to eliminate all that be a miracle change the odds yes did did did did you ever get a

chance to meet um Dr o Carl Simonon yes Carl yes Carl yes that's who I was referring to yes he lived in Fort Worth uh he and his wife uh yes came to Jose n Jose yes yes I was just going to say for for for people listening people like Scott who might be facing a life-threatening disease um okar simonon is a doctor who came up with something called imagery therapy for cancer what he did was he found that he could teach cancer patients who had this obviously life serious life-threatening disease he Could he would

teach them specific visualization exercises and they would beat the odds they would go into what is called spontaneous Mission the cancer would disappear and they would go on to live long healthy lives now it didn't happen for all patients but it happened for significantly large number of them now okar Simon was a big fan of Silva in fact his wife uh him and his wife uh spoke at one of the Silva conventions uh I was not there I was probably a kid at That time but but Helen I think you may have been there one

of the things they said is that Sila is one of the most powerful tools they have come um in terms of they come across in terms of imagery therapy so my advice to people like Scott is look up The Works of oal simonon uh you can Google that it's o space car c a r l space simonon s i m o n t o n uh and also look into the uh the Sila light system um uh which also talks about imagery therapy Helen do you do You have any stories about Carl or anything you

wanted to add to that well I was very very impressed with this uh with with his work I and I know it's possible definitely possible and I'm always one that has to prove something to myself and so I did research and one of the things that we did I was up in New York and uh one of the girls that was a secretary had a challenge uh when she had back surgery hurt her back and then one of her feet Was about two inches shorter than the other foot and when we got there I saidh

don't we uh why don't we uh go ahead and practice what we what we're teaching and they all agreed this is at one of the seminars in New York and all of us all of us there were about a hundred so and so um decided that we were going to think about her every night and stretch her foot so it would become even with her other because this was an inch and a half Shorter we worked with that and worked with that and thought it was a game really but the outcome and This is Gospel

the outcome was that it was eventually it it seemed to be pulling and she could actually feel the pulling of it and now it's normal she walks normal not not by what sideways as she once did and this is a faell case so yes everything is possible but we now we had 100 people working with that and I said that was our research project And and there's another one Laura Huxley has the book you are not the Target and in that she has some good material also and that was uh uh you know when something

happens uh what is it there's another book bad things happen to good people uh well she um gives some good histories about you are not the target nobody's picking on you uh you've done this and you hate to admit that somewhere along the line you did it to yourself but let's face Reality and facts if you did if you have done this you can undo it but I loved her book I recommend it very highly great great well let's go on to to to a a question in a different theme and this question actually comes

all the way from from Malaysia from uh uh Chuan Po and what Chuan PO is asking is I have always dreamed about visiting Europe but I don't have the money to actually fly from Asia uh to Europe CU I come from a Small South Asian country I would love to see the Mediterranean and bask in the Splendor and pump during in Spring what specific advice would I do how would I specifically apply the spec system to help me realize this dream of vacationing in the Mediterranean oh well there it's easy you've got you have your

picture here and you already are there seeing yourself as being there so if there's a contest or an opportunity and I don't Know if there are contests in your area I certainly would uh pursue that as a contest but I also would see myself as being there but uh the contest would be one of the means of getting there but don't don't let go of that dream if it's that important to you you'll be there basking in the Sun and enjoying it you'll be there now now now in a situation like this Helen where where

someone like schan Po um obviously he has this dream but he doesn't have the Finances to get there uh can you give us some examples of how things might manifest for him I mean from your life because I know you've won how many trips to Europe have you won I I I I don't recall because my son's also won trips okay so all together yes five six or whatever wow that's that's pretty cool but how might things manifest for someone like Schwan po I mean obviously he he may not have the money for it okay

we talked about this earlier I Said see your yourself is already being there continuously see yourself as already being there read about the material uh just actually it's a visualization and it's a desire and it's so so strong you never know what happens and I'm sure you're still young so you've got this whole life ahead of you and uh who you're you're going to be there kid you're going to be there and just see yourself as already being there that important to you hang on to it That's a dream that's a good dream great now

this question comes from uh Annette and uh the question is so let's say I want to win a particular contest how many times should I enter if I don't win the first time do I keep entering how does that process work uh well remember in the contest there are so many many many contests and if you enter something and in my book I explain this if I didn't win from one person or one uh particular Contest I keep entering the ones that are giving that prize until I win the prize and that's it these are

opportunities and uh remember when I talked about the contest Queen and she has this book out that uh uh that there are contest of clubs all over the world and if you're really serious about entering contest to win prizes I would highly recommend you visit one of these clubs and sit there and maybe become a member there's it's just a desire is all They're doing but they're very very very successful I would was amazed when I went to the one here in Dallas a month or two ago when Caroline came from uh uh uh from

Canada to visit me and so she has a book out that tells you uh every place that there is a a club meeting so that would be my answer for you I see so you really you you you really do think joining a contesting Club is a is a very important step yeah uhhuh people would like Interests well of of course um they they have all the information they have the encouragement it's a fun fun thing you know for years when I first started I entered it I was a member of a club and I

it was very very successful and rewarding because we were encouraging we were saying oh you want a trip well did you hear about this trip oh you want gas did you hear this did you hear this did you hear this and you can't hear Everything but somebody's always on their toes and encouraging you and helping you and you in turn do the same thing that's initially how I won my house because when I got back uh from uh uh Europe and I went to the contest club and one of the gals said oh did you

uh when you were in New York did you see the World's Fair house and I said no I was so busy uh my son had won a trip there and I I was so excited to get to Paris France for my birthday I I don't Even know there was a contest for a house oh yes for m is giving this house away and uh she says locally you can enter it and uh you can go to Garland and put your name in the pop and that's what I did so this was I mean I did

didn't have the information it came to me because uh the con one of the contest members um fued me in about it so if you're serious uh definitely pursue it how serious are you it's up to You well perfect and you know what Helen you just answered uh in advance a question I was about to ask this came from someone in Southern California called The Cosmic coach and she said she in a group of Spirited souls in Southern California looking to start a contesting Club where can they get advice on this and and you just

answered it the the the answer is look up um the book by Queen yes Carolyn Wilman the contest Queen and her website is contest queen.com and uh You can get information from there oh yes definitely okay well let let's go on to uh uh the next question and right now we're moving more towards questions on contesting this question comes all the way from Gabriella uh in Denmark um her question is the landscape has changed and now there are lot of converations and sweet stakes and a lot of on the internet um is your advice to

say does anything change uh to to take advantage of the way contesting Has changed over the last 5 years oh definitely uh it has changed you know that one time it was U uh you had to write 25 words or less this was a contest now there's sweep stakes and sweep Stakes you know you can ENT uh simply on the internet uh and there is a method and I'm not familiar with it because I'm really not interested in material things anymore you know I'm jaded I outgrew all that but lot lot of these young Enthusiastic

uh people that are needing and wanting these things they're available to you uh there's a method and Carolyn can uh when she came here she showed it to me instead of entering your name one time and then going and entering it again and again uh and it's it's time consuming she has this little technique where you can uh enter I'd say about 40 or 50 contests that are now going on in about 15 20 minutes I I sat here absolutely amazed how efficient and Effective you can uh get on the email and enter these contests

that are available and yes prizes are always won uh they're legitimate and they're serving a purpose because they're uh what they're they're promoting their products and so uh that's a wonderful wonderful way to get a lot of little stuff and I repeated this last time and about repeat it again uh when I visited the group that were in the Dallas contest that met in Irving this was in No November and they stood up and it was not uncommon for them to say nine or 10 prizes in one month and they all sounded lucrative because at

that time gas was outrageous in price and somehow they they kept winning gas and I just sat there and kind of laughed and thought God I'd well I wouldn't get into it anymore because I have other interests now but if that's your main interest then go for it kid go for it now I know uh a bunch of people are asking well Helen's now saying that she has other interests what are her other interests I I thought we should segue for a moment here Helen I I wanted to share with the audience one of the

things you shared with me uh about how you're now giving away a lot of the uh the profits you make from your Blueprints and such to uh to a feat the children charity could you could you say a little bit about that well uh there's a place in Fort Worth that uh uh feeds the homeless and of Course I think now it's a dollar a meal or something like that that's my pet charity right now it changes last year it was to buy glasses uh you know uh for children that were not able and this

was Lion's Club and so it changes uh throughout the years I know when my husband and I were here together we would go to Dallas and get shoes for everybody uh there was a uh a man that owned a shoe store and we would generously donate uh when he went around To find to get you know to Pur choose on people so everything is different and then uh locally here in the college um I mean in the High School uh I have some friends there that teach and if they come and say somebody needs a

a a suit to graduate or whatever I just simply this is what I do it's not on one one big thing it's on little things and I'm drawn to it uh yes I get a lot of emails uh my husband has cancer my daughter has this so and so has this and so forth and It goes on and on and on and I read the an I read the uh emails but they're so depressing and so negative and well before I turn the email off I uh I can't answer them all really because they're just

overwhelming but believe me I send love and energy to every one of them so that's all I can do I mean you can't pick and start out uh one thing at a time I choose where I want to uh put the put my money does that answer your question Absolutely absolutely now now now I I have my opinion on this but I'm curious to know what what you think is giving away the charity or or helping a worthy cause uh does that in any way help speed up the rate at which you manifest things and

desires for yourself and if so wi well the only thing that I have found and that is I feel good about being able to do that it's a feeling of uh of well satisfaction and uh that I did something to help somebody else that's my reward I Don't think of another reward I have an uncle I mean I have a brother-in-law in uh Austin that does this uh goes every morning to the um grocery stores bakeries and things gets all the baked goods and puts it now this guy is 80 five four years old every

morning at 4:00 gets up and gets all this Bakery goods and puts it in his truck and goes from soup kitchen to church that has open meetings to feed the poor in the parish goes there every solitary morning And gives this uh this uh uh bread and rolls and stuff and what is his reward he I talked to him and he said uh it makes me feel good and he said you know know something Sunday in church I'm walking out of church and a man comes up to me and gives me a $100 bill and

says listen you need gas money for what you're doing and use this for your gas money and he said I just was overwhelmed that someone would think about he said it doesn't worry my gas Doesn't worry but it evidently made this man feel good and so that's my gas money and and so uh this is something beautiful that this man has done for the last 15 years that's a very beautiful story and uh uh I I completely agree my my take on it is when you're giving to someone else or giving to a charitable cause

uh what tends to what tends to happen is that you tend to put yourself in a frame of mind where you feel abundance because of Course to give something away you must already have it so you put yourself in a frame of mind where you feel abundance and for you allow more abundance to flow to you yes so i' I've noticed that that in that in in my case as well uh what we've started doing uh with our web businesses uh and here I'm talking about Fin mines our first development blog what we've started doing

is giving a lot of uh uh money away uh right now the ca that we Are supporting is burmes refugees in Southeast Asia uh lot of these people are go through really really really tough times almost slavery uh and we are are funding nonprofits that help with education and and and services to help these people um immigrate uh immigrate as refugees to to the United States well see I'm not a finance here so my my U my contributions are more personalized and smaller than the big grandios you know the ones that I have Making lots

of money but I'm I I'm just pi and choosing what I feel uh is uh important I don't I can't uh really explain it but it's a good feeling I'm working on something now that may sound uh mundane or whatever but I I've heard now that someone is needing a a stove and what I'm doing is uh seeing that she gets the stoves I mean you know these These are little things around the neighborhood don't have to go to Africa or Indonesia or whatever uh to do Anything how about locally doing things for the good

Absol and that's where I'm at absolutely okay now let let's go on to um to the next question and uh this question is is by Ruth and it's on the topic of expectancy so Ruth asks what does the feeling of expectancy with certainty feel like I understand the spe process but I seem to get bared down with the final uh uh part of it um e which is expectancy I feel like I'm always second Guessing the outcome or looking for it in some way at a particular time how can you know when you have something

that you've selected and projected how do you know that that is about to arrive how do you let go of it and relax and simply expect it again that's a feeling honey I mean I just uh let's say I'm in the kitchen doing dishes and the thought comes to my mind and to expect is knowing that it's Already done are just like when are they going to let us know that I won this when are they going to let us know this or whatever it is it's when are they going to let us know feeling

it's already done I've already given it enough energy now all I'm waiting for is to let them know let me know that I want it so it's a feeling and when you get that feeling and then it doesn't happen then keep on getting that feeling until it does Manifest and then go on to something else the um the the the idea of expectancy also reminds me of a lot of what Jose Silva talks about in in the Silva method they talk about um desire belief and expectancy the three attitudes that help create success and um

one of the things that that that Jose Silva talks about is again start with something small something believable don't jump the gun something that you believe can happen to you and you expect It to happen because you know it's very achievable uh as soon as that happens you build up your reservoir of faith and you can aim for Higher and Higher and Higher things but that's how you gradually build up your expectancy U but but if I Helen I I I just want to share a a short anecdote uh that might help someone like Ruth

understand uh what the feeling the expectancy is like so here's uh here's an example let's say a good friend of yours um asks you to lend him Some money and you lend this person money and um he promises to pay you back but a month goes by and he hasn't paid you back the $1,000 he owes you now you're obviously frustrated you're upset you're wondering what the the the the hell has this guy done to me he's taken advantage of our friendship um now you are obviously upset you are not expecting the money to come

back come to you and that's why you have a feeling of frustration but let's say all of a Sudden your friend calls you up and says hey Ruth I just had a change of heart and I decided that what I did was a really really really awful thing and I realized that I want to pay you back the money immediately so I am fedexing you a check and um here's the FedEx number and I'm also going to fax you a copy of the check and I'm going to f you the FedEx uh delivery receipt so

you can you can track it online um and you'll be getting it in the next 48 hours now of course Ruth has not received the check yet the check has not gone to a bank she does not have the money but all of a sudden she's feeling joyful because she expects it to come in other words she knows the check is in the mail so it's really that feeling that we are aiming for the feeling where you are so certain you you so expect what you are seeking to come to you because you you know

the check is in the mail and that is what we mean by expectancy so that's the feeling you Want to cultivate now of course it's not easy it takes some practice so you want to start with small goals and slowly build this up but eventually you get to a stage where you're getting so many successes that whatever you set your mind on you expect it to happen and so it happens e the hips has a nice quote she says um there's a scale of emotions you want to feel uh hope is easier than doubt sorry

hope is better than doubt expectancy is better than hope Expectancy is the ultimate emotion but you start with doubt you gradually move that doubt into hope when you have a few successes and once you're really nailing it you move from Hope to expectancy so I I just thought I'd jump in with that there Helen anything to add yes that's excellent uh when I and this happened a number of years ago and uh there was a a group of people that invited me to come and ask so I I I gave him $400 wor of books

and they were in Dire need this was just another uh group of people that were sincere and in trying to raise the consciousness of people but uh they never paid that $425 so I came and he said he was going to mail me this check and uh he never did never mailed it so at the end of the year my husband said uh well let's write it off as a bad debt and that's that's what we'll do I said no he he told me he would pay it and he owes it to me and it's

rightfully mine and would you Believe that in my office I had this note and I said Glenn uh in his last name owes me this $425 because he said he would pay it and he owes it to me so the next year the next it's time again H and my husband said well let's write it off and I said no no no he owes this to me and I am intimate and do you know the third year there's a knock on my door and there stands Glenn smiling and he said you know I keep Thinking

about you and I still owe you this money and he said with interest now is $500 and he walked in and I gave him coffee and that was the end of it he was on traveling around the country but I got the money three years but he owed it to me now can you explain that I don't know all I know is he telepathically evidently got my message because this was something he owed I didn't give it to him does that answer your question Absolutely abs absolutely so Helen at at this point we're at the

end of the uh the second T seminar and um so do you have any final words of wisdom to wrap up yes I do I want people to know that there are three things that make life worthwhile and that is to feel useful by doing something to be loved by someone and to have something to look forward too and those are my three words of wisdom today and uh what what are you looking Forward to in 2009 uh well gosh you know I'm so fortunate here I am so very very very fortunate that for some

reason I am still wanting to be with on the on the uh Letterman show why do I want to be on this stupid Letterman show I really don't know until I get there but that's a goal that's a goal here and so we're going to see about that yeah it's G to be a and I'm I'm I am I am excited and waiting to see that Happen I I am really in true I I am too really I'm giving it lots and lots of energy because I see myself sitting there beside the idiot and we're

talking you know he's not uh well what something that uh comes to mind why do I want to see him well he's a skeptic number one I'm not trying to prove anything to him but anyway that's that's what I want to do and I'll talk about it further later on why it's so important to me right okay well good Luck with that and I'm looking and uh and I wish you all the best for 2009 and to everyone listening in I wish you all the best as well and I hope you enjoy you enjoyed the

tel seminar thank you everyone hello everybody this is Dr Joe Vitali welcome to another hypnotic gold audio moment and I have another collectible interview for you happening in just a moment I have somebody on the line that I've been wanting to reconnect with for some time we spoke a few years Ago because of a blog post that I wrote about her out of print book at that time she was bombarded by emails thousands of them as I understand it maybe we'll get to talk about the story but what I'm talking about is back in the

1980s I read a lifechanging book called contest the name it and claim it game and it was written by Helen hadel build as the woman who wins every contest she enters contesting was a breakthrough book for me and many others in fact millions of Others the book sold over three million copies and how it was sold is quite a marketing lesson and if I remember we'll talk about that on this interview too but what most people don't know is that the author is around and I have her on the phone let me make sure she's

here Helen are you here I certainly am well you sound very bright and cheerful and energetic you ready to be talking to me for a little bit well of course of course well uh I understand that you're 84 now is that correct yes yes do you mind talking about that some people are offended to mention their age not at all because even at this age I think life is still a daring Adventure or nothing well what's the secret to living the 84 and Beyond um I think um um a sense of humor I have this

uh Joe I have this offbeat sense of humor and I I constantly amazed that people can't can't relate to it but anyway I keep trying well I know you you Sent me your autobiography your self-published one a long time ago and I quoted from it because at the end somewhere in the book you say make every day special share a joke hum a song pass some special Joy along and if someone should come your way who doesn't share your joy today the hell with them that's right and I still I still think that's that's where

it's at well I really appreciate you making time to be on the phone with me for the people who aren't Understanding uh what this is all about or know you or your book we need to start at the beginning uh contesting has become a famous book which I now know is back in print what does even the name contesting mean it seems unusual if you don't U do sweep Stakes or lotteries what does contesting mean um when you enter a contest it entails writing 25 words 50 words or an article or something like that and

then sweep Stakes is simply uh Signing your name and uh sending it out or right now sweep Stakes is all the rage on your computer and there are very few contests uh you'll find him sporadically in U uh a contest to to write an article for one of the magazines or um if there is uh someone looking for a slogan some of the radio contests um um Radio contest usually uh right now they'll say the sixth caller I'll take or the fifth caller and that's where where they get where you they're Not constant winners they

like to have a turnover I see well I want to make sure that my hypnotic Gold members know why I have you on this call while I want to why I want to interview you besides the success of your book and the success of you um you have used a particular technique or two it might have three or four parts to it I'd like you to talk about them as we get into this that have helped you win contest in fact as I understand it in 1982 you won over 5,000 Prizes is that correct no

that's exaggerating well how many do you think in night or even over well I think uh one month uh I won a prize every day that one month you want a prize every day well that's every day yes uhuh but for 5,000 maybe uh you know if you want to count a deck of cards or a record or whatever uh but I didn't think that was big stuff you know well what what are some of the big things so that people are well all right uh I did Win two cars I did uh win this

F abulous home here in Los cenus in Irving wow great and that was a that was probably my my biggest prize and then uh of course as the children were growing up we uh uh we would only enter contests uh because um those lovely sponsors send us on our vacations like we were sent to Disney World Disneyland twice uh to the World's Fair in New York to Paris France uh uh uh well and dude ranches or whatever We wanted and then at the beginning of the year I would say where are where are we going

to vacation this year and then the kids put would put their two cents worth in and if it was a dude ranch trip that's what I would concentrate on and this is where I want to go because you're not only a winner but you're using something in particular to win and you wrote about it the book contesting but I want you to share it with me and the other people on the call because This is a way to win in life it's not it's not just a way to win prizes or even though those are

very impressive to win your own home or to trips to Europe or uh Disneyland or anything else that's all very impressive well I I I I put it down very simplistic and I call it Spec s p e c spec this means to select IT project it expect it and then collect it I love this okay and so um even if you have a Delay in results as sometimes happen uh I'm getting all kinds of emails from all over this cotton picking world and they like they'll say if I buy if I buy your book

will I win a house uh well I will uh right up front tell them my uh when you buy my book there's no way you can win a house unless you follow the principles how important is it to you how long do you want to project to win this house I mean it's some of these um some of these Requests really and truly uh need to be explained in detail because a book no book is going to do it I don't care what kind of a book you read unless you apply the principles oh I

totally agree with you I'm always telling people buying the book and reading the book is one thing many people don't even read them but to actually go and implement it to do it they complain that the book didn't do a thing for Them I remember you know what book uh got me started and that was Vince and peels the power of positive thinking oh well listen I read that book thoroughly and the the things that stuck out there were um You can have anything you want provided you know what it is that's why I put

on select it you know see yourself is having it which is projecting it and then expect it and then collect it and this is U this is how I really got started was with his book and what I was Doing initially was trying to prove uh that uh that someone could do it if it was uh you know was it something he just wrote about or could I actually do it and this is fascinating I want to just digress for a second did you meet him because I know you met many different people and knew

them personally Joseph Murphy and Jose Silva and Paul twitchell and uh no I didn't have the pleasure but um I do know when uh Dr Murphy came into Dallas uh to do a lecture he called me And he said Vincent Peele said I better not leave Texas without meeting me oh that's how we initially met and then yes Peele wrote about me in several of his books and some of the magazines you know Family Circle and uh some of the magazines that were popular at that time well let's go through these four steps here the

very first one is Select it and that I think on the surface everybody should understand that means to choose what you want but is there More to it than that is there a way to refine it or do how detailed do you have to be when you select uh when that when someone starts out uh I know we all have I want to do this I want to do this I want to do this I think uh that you should start out with one goal and um I don't care how long it takes but start

out with one particular thing that you're really it's really important to you then you write it down that's the first step you're going to Select it the next step would be to project it mean there's many ways you can project it you can mentally see it and you know see if if it's a new car you want okay you're driving down and what kind of a car do you want um uh you're in traffic all the time so if if you want a robber or if you want a v whatever you want and you happen

to see that car and then just say I'm going to have one just like it that that also is A projection also you can uh put a picture uh in a maybe in your car or maybe on your in your medicine uh on the mirror where you look in the morning uh these are all little areas uh we're working here with energy everything is energy thinking is energy so you are then projecting energy to that goal and it can be very subtle but this is what you're doing and now you have uh you have selected

it you have projected it Now after the projection there's uh expected okay because because now you you have the confidence you've given it enough energy you continue to do it until you collect it now when you collect it how long does that take uh you know what one night uh when we went to a dance and my husband and I went to a dance and there was a big boom box there and uh we got in the door and I told my husband I said well uh my daughter wanted that for Christmas and There's her

Christmas present and so what it so happened at this place it was an engineering party my husband was an engineer we went to the um uh Christmas dance and everybody that knew that I was winning all the time and what they did Joe which people don't even know what they're doing I would um um as uh when we came in the door and we had to sign our name which we did and I Saidi want the moon box tonight and that woman just Kind of looked sideways and she said it's probably yours and then as

as the other people came in she said the hatchel are here tonight and they want uh she wants to win the boom box for her daughter well you know what happened everybody uh wouldn't didn't even try there was no contest or whatsoever oh cuz they looked at it and said well she's already won it and they gave me all their energy all their energy and then at the end of the night When it was time for the drawing and uh they had other um fruit cakes and other little uh prizes but this was the big

one yes and uh so my husband's uh boss who was the M mcing the program said I'm not even going to draw the name because you'll think it's rigged and then one little woman came up and she says I'll draw the name and she drew the name and handed it to him and I won the Boon box amazing but no no it's not it's energy they're work this is energy they're Working with and uh one of the stories that I also I want to convince people what they're doing because when I went to California I

went a trip to California while I was out there I wanted to uh um get on the um Queen for day the art link letter show I wanted to meet art and um and uh we were also with Mary Tyler Moore and then uh there was another uh program and I don't even recall the name but I do know I had a free afternoon and I went in there and Uh uh they were giving uh it was complicated and I don't think it lasted that long but it was kind of a pilot program but they

had refrigerators and and freezers and dishwashers and televisions and so forth and I was just killing time to uh wait for my girlfriend to pick me up after she got off work and sat there and uh was listening to the people around me and this one woman and daughter said she's never won anything not never W anything Well at that time my mother needed um a television uh she wanted a color television and so I projected and won this color television and told them to send it directly to South Dakota where my mother lived well

this woman uh approached me and says gosh you're so lucky you won this television and I said well I said what what do you want to win and then she said a refrigerator and I said well why don't we play a game and then I sat there with the daughter and The mother and I said um there were small prizes that came up and I said first of all you have to uh they're going to put the prize there on the in the front on the board and I said secondly they are going to at

random draw I mean choose someone from the audience which made it a little more complicated but with three of you working there uh there's no competition there and so I said well all project uh with the daughter and I will project That your mother they choose your mother for this um for the refrigerator she wanted uh well to make a long story short um we had a break for lunch and they had sand wiches and cokes because they wanted to keep you there and keep an audience there and I again said okay now let's keep

on projecting for this and yes she won it she won it because we were working uh with so close and with energy and three of us together and I don't know what the rest of them were Doing probably thinking the same thing I've never won anything or I'd like to win that so if you're there and you like to win it just say well pick choose me number one that's energy and so these are little things I learned along the way they that sound very powerful it sounds like they're working most people I think don't

believe they can win anything they don't believe they can be successful they don't really believe they're going to do Well with their business and isn't that a way of Unwin well of course that's negative anything just listen to people I think today I had about seven emails and uh I'm not belittling people because people are in all the uh areas of their life you know we have the infant Souls the young Souls the baby Souls mature and the old souls on this planet and you're all in different um uh areas if you will and some

of them just Um ask you to help them and what I do I'm always very very gracious I try not to intimidate people and sometime it's hard because I'm human I'm not Divine but uh they ask me and prior to them giving a suggestion because I'm not a fortune teller and some people think I am but I'm not I um but I I'm serious about helping them and before I leave them I always say uh Mary or John or whatever their name is I said I'm going to ask higher in higher Intelligence to project what's

for your highest good and that's all I do because over the years you know what some something to consider and really consider not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful Stroke of Luck that's worth repeating sometimes yes definitely definit getting what you want is often a a good thing yeah uhuh yes it is if you have the intelligence to sit back and Reflect and then it makes sense uh it really and truly really and truly makes sense of course they don't believe it when they first get started I mean it's just one of those

things I know number of years ago someone came and um brought their boyfriend in and I uh I'm a people um Observer and it's not because I'm psychic it's because I took a a wonderful exciting class with Dr Brian who taught body and Organ language and so I'm very very wors on that I mean when you can walk in the door I know if you're mad sad glad or bad I mean uh it's just that obvious and then when you sit and I always have you pull up a chair so I'm equal and can watch

your eyes and your body language and U then I take it from there you know are you lying are you accepting me or are you rejecting me and so I study I still watch um uh the Letterman show and watch these people when they're Uh being um interviewed and I probably know about them more about them than they know about themselves h but that's because I'm interested in that I can tell that you are yeah well you have such a wealth of knowledge and I love how you simplified things right to this spec formula uh

I'm holding in my hands a lottery ticket for tonight's Mega Millions in Texas yeah if I wanted to focus on winning that and we just Played a game how would you help me do that what would you advise me I think this could be illustrating the whole process to people listening oh definitely definitely uh is this uh numbers that you have played repeatedly NOP these are all quick pick numbers oh these are quick pick numbers they were given to me by the machine okay all right well all I I I don't especially enjoy uh doing

that because I'm a person that doesn't even wear jewelry or Designer jeans or whatever not interested or Corvettes like one of my friends is not interested in any of that um I would just simply say uh this is the winning number and if it's and then project for it uh what when you're dealing with people in the masses like um tickets lottery tickets uh there are millions and millions and millions of people and the ones that have created the most energy are the winners and so if you Read and uh a number of years ago

I read the book uh that this couple this young couple had been um playing the lottery for six years and only kept the same numbers and they finally won the jackpot the with the same numbers so they were giving energy to these same numbers I see another time I was in uh Los Angeles and uh they again uh the group that I was working with ask about the lottery and I did something that um just came to on the spur of the moment I Got on the chalkboard and I said okay now let's see here's

60 in this room here uh number one um how many of you use number one when you uh your favorite number how many of you use number two number three I went on down the aisle uh and they raised their hand and there seem to be number 13 17 23 I'm just guessing um where most of them use those numbers okay so at the end of after I got through going through the numbers and then I said look at here Here are the numbers that are having the most energy just out of you 60 people

uh here they are there's 13 23 whatever it was and I didn't think anymore about it I said that would be a nice I mean that would be a good number to play and one woman wrote These numbers down and uh during the break she went out of the hotel and went into the um fast food place there or whatever they had 7-Eleven or whatever mhm and uh bought that those Numbers and later on that evening on in my hotel room and I get this phone call about 11: or 12 and she said oh Mrs

hadel I just won the I was won the lottery wow and uh I don't know I don't think it was first I think it was 25,000 or whatever she may have missed a number but that will tell you I mean play the same numbers and you said well quick pick I don't know yeah well what I'm hearing is that energy is everything because I'm mentioning I I have this Ticket in my hand and the truth is there's no energy on it because I've never seen these numbers before I just stood there and said give me

a couple quick picks for tonight's Mega Millions yeah okay okay no uh if you're playing it and if you want to uh research with it I would I would get the tickets that are winning constantly and I think they have print outs do they not I believe so are they're onine okay or do it uh and then look and see what Numbers come up constantly consistently so at least if you don't win the big one you're going to win you're going to win a lot of numbers I mean have correct numbers that's the way I

would work it if I played it okay well that's a good illustration because in your spec process the very first thing is Select and so I was looking at well I wanted to win the lottery but I'm semi joking cuz I don't really want to and I don't really need to when you were giving Those other examples about wanting a TV set or wanting a jukebox there there seem to be a loving reason for it uhhuh yeah and then projecting can be any number of things that can be just thinking about it and it could

be writing it down couldn't it writing it down that you've won sure or what it would be feeling like to win uhhuh yeah sure sure and what about expecting it do you just kind of sit around thinking well my business is going to improve or I'm going to win the lottery or okay um uh you um I have something here and I've had some confirmation with uh people that have been UNC consistent winners I don't know if you've heard of the contest Queen in in Canada yes okay she's she's a friend of mine and she

was relentless to come out here and spend four days with me this us past year and I finally melted down and I said okay Carolyn you can come uh but prior to her coming uh she Uh she wanted to win a trip to um to England to be with her husband and uh she just won the trip just before she came she had the notice two days before she came and she also the next day I got $700 with the brand new luggage so it was very very very interesting she is something else really and

true oh I blog and so forth um tell me about your book your book contesting one time when I it might have been the first time You and I spoke you told me this wonderful story about a man who helped you with that book he wanted to be a publisher but had no publishing experience he wanted to go to India do you do you remember all of that can you tell us that story sure sure sure uh uh I was lecturing up in Ohio and uh this young man approached me he was a my uh

a silver trainer instru instructor and um uh he um didn't say anything to me because I was there and he'd gotten Books and uh most of the time when I was um invited they wanted a book review and then I'd got serious and then do a workshop on self-awareness but after I came home it was about a month later and uh there's a knock on the door and here he is with his brother and his aunt was in the car and they came all the way from Ohio and he had a proposition that um would

I sign over his Distributing my Book and at that time divorce was publishing and I self-published it but divorce was helping me distribute so I was doing okay with it and um I looked at him and he and I said he didn't have any money he was living with his aunt and uh just was um a silver instructor and had just started out and uh my husband uh said well he said I don't know if I would do a contract with him uh he he kept pleading me with me for 6 months to do a

contract And then I couldn't um uh republish my book uh and you know whatever was left in the store room uh but after that he wanted to distribute and I slept on it and the next night I uh said okay I'll let you have it for six months well the first months uh I my husband went bunkers because I did a uh I did an article for Good Housekeeping and uh I had so many orders it was Unreal Because at that time it was popular to be a winner you know and I didn't have any

books left and then divorce uh was angry because now they were making money Distributing my book and I wouldn't let him re uh re um publish but in the meantime I'm still still thinking this kid was there was something about this kid that was so sincere here and I I just had confidence in them and then I guess it was uh three or four months later when he called one morning and he Said are you sitting down and I said why and he said well what he did uh because it was a contesting book he

bought all of the names of people that entered contests that you know you can buy names um at that mailing list and he run a mail what he did he sent out postcards and he took my book and put it in manual form he didn't change a word except he except he called it a how to do it book because it's very explicit I'm uh very very um a well a fifth grader could read The book because it's written where you can readily understand it and um that's how uh well I I don't recall the

first I think check was 30 40,000 I don't even remember anymore but what he said was I'm going to make a million for you and a million for myself and then I want to go to India and get with some Maharishi or whatever and uh when I wrote the contract Joe I must have been tuned in because I uh uh it would be unheard of today uh in the Public in the in writing a book oh yeah because I put it on 50 50% yeah 50% royalty yeah yeah it didn't take us long to make

that million dollars and um after he made his and of course that's how I I was able to get this Center here in Alvaro and uh the the dormatory in the center uh where people would come out and do take my self-awareness classes and then I never heard from him again he send my book back and he says I'm through with it and that's it never heard from the man again oh I guess he went to India and he's floating with the cloud I guess so but he I love the story because it's it's a

good marketing story he saw a product and he knew there was an audience and he rented the list of people who had already showed interest in winning contest and just sent him a postcard about your book and then I love from a very balanced standpoint you had a 50/50 royalty he got 50 you got 50 and You both won because he wanted to go to India with his million you wanted to open your Center and do you still have your Center is it still open yes oh yes yeah you were invited there when the uh

contest Queen was here but you declined so I don't remember right now but yeah I know you're busy in other areas but I was uh I definitely want to come are you doing classes there uh not anymore not anymore but uh there were so many things you know when I um we talked to years Ago and I did your blueprint yes well when you called I mean when you emailed me the other day I um I always remember people that are fascinating me like you were born December the 29th 1953 you know my goodness that's

right yeah well yeah I remember this and you can ask me any number if they're interesting I had a movie star here Monday and uh it was an interesting encounter but getting back to you do you know this year uh you know you're in your ninee um your Harvest cycle you're in your Harvest cycle but this is your seven year so this year because you're starting this new project you are on a philosophical humanitarian vibration M uh because that's what you're doing now December is a three 29 is a two this is a 2E adds

up to a seven and then your Harvest cycle is a nine uh you you're doing exactly what you're supposed to be doing here Joe well that's good because I'd be in trouble if I wasn't well I'd have the Back pedal well you'd be surprised how many people are still floundering out there well that's a good point how do they find out if there's somebody listening that feels like they're floundering okay for God's sake pick up a book on um on the numbers there there's vibrations from day one your name is a vibration numbers are a

vibration I always say your parents gave you a name the universe gave you your numbers and then when you're following Your numbers you know you are your Life Path is a five and adventure and so is mine that's why we we can uh um you know understand each other yes we can connect yes well what's a good book on that is there something that you wrote or something you recommend for a beginner well I do I do Blueprints and that's what I've done for the last 25 years I did your blueprint oh I know you

did I have people asking me all the time how do I reach or I want a Blueprint tell for those who don't know what exactly is a blueprint so they know what you're doing with a blueprint uh well uh all they need to do is give me their name uh their name and their birth date and then three people that they want to know more about they're just their birth dates and I do 20 pages in a photo album so that they can constantly refer to it and this is all I do now I don't

hold classes anymore I answer all of my emails I can't answer my phone Because there's so many uh phone calls I mean Germany England well of course you have the same challenge yes and so I I wouldn't be doing anything but answering the phone well if people wanted one do they email you to get one how do they yes they can email me and uh at one time when I was just by myself here uh I had them for $35 but now my gracious I have um I have two people that have to help me

send out books and price is gone up with everything with the everything it's $55 for a blueprint okay and that's it's everything concerned about you well if it's everything concerned about a person I think $55 is well well worth it that's very very reasonable I think it is I I do too and do you still have copies of contesting or where do people get that I think I reprinted now seven8 nine times and the last printing uh well it went up quite a bit so my books are $12 uh for my you know name it

and claim it and then you you do have my uh confession Book I do yes okay and remember I told you you can use anything in it you choose to share because there's some good stuff in there Joe yeah absolutely well how do do you want to give out your email or what do you want to do yeah you have uh my email so they don't bother you okay uh it's tap tap 88 at Cowtown that's one word Cowtown Doet taptap 88c town. NE yeah that's right uhhuh okay and that'll go directly to you comes

directly to me and I do the blueprint if I have somebody here helping me type just the initial things but before the blueprint gets put in the envelope I read it and there may be something that I need to call their to their attention or to remind them or to give them a clue on what they're missing because uh most of the people will say Why am I here uh what is my mission this lifetime and they don't have the fist or if they do uh they know their um they add up their numbers and

they still don't know what they mean like if you're you add up your numbers you know month day year and it comes to one you're Pioneer the two you're a diplomat three you're an artist four you're a builder five like you and I are adventurers and then the cosmic parent and I find that when you're Cosmic you're usually a Teacher in this area if you're and then the philosopher of course is the one that has in depth and usually past lives that they've been in the monastery or in a Convent and this comes this surfaces

with them the eight is the executive and they're the ones that um really and truly can get things done uh in the financial fields and then the humanitarian which uh right now the rest of your life the best and rest of your life you have that vibration of the Humanitarian the sharing and caring uh what you're doing with people with your books with your talents and with your CDs so you're following you're following exactly what you're supposed to be doing and incidentally doing a damn good job Joe well thank you pardon the French no I

appreciate that well well tell me more about some of the things that are unique to you in other words you tell people how to use their mind to get more of the results that they want but you talk About things like visualization being a little or the way you talk about visualization is different than other people can you just talk about some of these things that are unique to you that are your understandings and uh lessons uh well uh someone someone asked me uh who are you uh do you mind if I tell you who

I am I don't mind if they ask me okay they they think I'm a chosen one so I say I'm not a chosen one I don't think so saving The world is not my assignment unlike Sylvia Brown the dead and I do not communicate jeie Dixon made predictions I do not I was told uh because I work in other levels I see people in other dimensions I told I'm a channel to help people to help themselves and this is my mission and purpose is Lifetime I'm given assignments from beings from other dimensions and they appear

to me in physical form sometimes they're so real That I think it's another person there and they communicate telepathically and now very rarely do these beings or you want to call them entities appear for each person uh that leads me to believe that um an individual uh individuals have different people around them let's say someone comes here and uh maybe they came for an weekend retreat and if they come and I see a person beside them and they're you know they're In that other dimension then I know for some reason that I need to communicate

or with more on a personal basis uh why did they come sometime they come to observe sometime they communicate and tell me to remind that person and when I remind that person uh many times s that person will say well I had a dream about that and they don't have the foggiest that this guide is helping them to help themselves guides never tell you what to do they're there to watch you to guide You uh to take care I mean you know more or less to observe but they don't interfere and the minute you feel

like somebody interferes then you better back off because we're on this Dimension and we have what we call um jokesters and people make fun of you Etc but the minute that you have visions of grandeur someone in that other dimension is going to create or you're going to create a thought form and that thought form is going to tell you you're a chosen one They uh they say they see the Virgin Mary or they see Jesus or or they see muhamad or whatever and most of that is a thought form they create and that was

that research that I did when I went to England I wanted to know the difference between ghosts abortions and thought forms so many many of the people that went to Seance rooms were creating their own thought forms and the medium over there was simply simply telling them what they Wanted to hear because they were picking up what they wanted to hear they were picking up their own thoughts yes they were projecting thoughts and they thought oh this medium is fantastic you know she knows that U my electric bill is um uh isn't correct or whatever

it was I mean there were such mundane I called it um a waste of my time I sat there for three day for three weeks uh trying to get some kind of you know confirmation when I finally got it I said Eureka and then I went back on my way to New York and did a talk show and that's when I was invited to go to Russia and present my paper on what I had observed so at least I know the difference this is the power of thoughts thoughts can help us win thoughts can help

us get rich or get poor thoughts can help us create thought forms which other people if they're Sensi sensitive enough can misinterpret as a ghost or an Oparation this is the power of thoughts well with all of that in mind what's your advice to people when they look at the world right now and it's fairly Rocky with the economy being uncertain and people losing jobs and people being in fear do they all need a copy of contesting or or what do they need uh they need to get back and push away from uh listen I

don't even care uh to go out to the grocery stores or Walmart or shopping anymore the energy is so so Rampant and there's so much unrest and there's so many drugs out there and drinking in excess because what they're saying is world is going too fast and they want to slide away from it so they drug uh themselves up and this is very very prent now and also many many on the planet are infant and baby Souls uh they came here uh when you choose to come here you choose your parents you know and um

uh you are you usually come into a family and uh you have a group Soul Session which uh on my blueprint I point out if you came here uh to resolve something uh and you might want to look at your blueprint again because on the second line there it tells you if you have a karmic tie with somebody and when you when you have that and then of course you better um really find out what is it what do you have hate fear anger pain servitude love with this person and then when you Know that

and then you you always have to what I call self-analyze yourself in order to be happy and content but um uh as you are um sending out your books and your emails Etc I always always include uh Frank Outlaw's work you know that's watch your thoughts they become words watch your words they become actions watch your actions they become habits watch your habits they become Your character watch your character for it becomes your destiny and so it starts out with what are you thinking if it's not positive constructive and creative and then it's a detriment

to you you start out that way by watching your thoughts and then what are you saying and I am constantly constantly uh calling that to my Attention to people that email me you know uh go back and start out and then even in my in my blueprints I think I repeat it three times and at the end when I make a summary I say all right look at that one again because really that's the secret there it's not a secret because if you use it you're not going to have many problems so it all comes

to watching your thoughts yes yes watch your thoughts what are you thinking is there Anger jealousy pity party and many of them are in pity parties now and uh the more pity party they are in uh the deeper they're going to dig themselves and they can uh blame it on the government they can blame it on their boss they can blame it on the economy or whatever uh how come uh there are other people that are successful uh what are the successful people uh get around the successful people and listen what are what are they

Talking about they're not they're not um buying in on the economy or listening to the news and being uh pulled down constantly they have an opportunity to cancel or press the um the mute button to think of something uplifting I mean you have choices all the time you're in control of your destiny so some people think they're not in control of their Destiny they feel like you know they may have lost their home or maybe they're fearful about Losing their home maybe they're fearful about their business or maybe they lost their job or maybe they

have an online business right now and the sales aren't as great is what they want how do they raise their thoughts or raise their energy how do they focus on it being better when it feels so bad in the moment for them okay now that's a that's a darn good question here okay in our society you think the majority of people think and unfortunately the par some of These parents are really and truly bringing their children up to I I don't know to uh laws and rules and things that I was never I never experienced

growing up if you don't have a dish or a a a television with all all of the different channels on you got to have that you got to eat out and um fast food course is going up now to almost uh Meal Time things you got to have a four-story house or 20 bedrooms or whatever what in God's green earth do these People keep on extending themselves for they got to be responsible for what they're doing uh there's something else that I need to um on a personal note sure and I'm going to uh I

always call it the three Rs the three Rs to me are very very important and that's respect for self respect for others and be responsible for all your actions those are beautiful when you can Do that and then you're okay but uh how many are doing that now it's uh and then uh when I'm dealing with people that are I watch Judge Judy by the way and she is a really on online person and uh what things that I I quote from her cuz I think she's um she's got it on the ball she's not

perfect but she makes a lot of sense with it uh living an honorable life then when you get older and think back you're able to enjoy it it a second time and That's what I did when I wrote my confession book in uh in uh in disagreements with your loved ones deal only with the current situations don't bring up the past oh that's a big one isn't it deal only with current situation don't bring up the past that's right and then share your knowledge it's a way to achieve immortality and remember that the best relationship

is one in which you love Your love for each other extends your need for each other uh and that's very important because I I'm seeing it all the time with um people do I mean I uh occasionally let people come in for counseling and um sometime I just want to say get out of my face because I told you this I told you this three years ago they don't listen they only want you to agree with them um so you asked me um the one thing That kept me so easygoing and positive even experienced losses

and disappointments sure I've had that but my answer is this offbeat sense of humor and I will continue uh to do jokes and um one thing that was so precious I had a woman um I did a blueprint and you know what her main main con U well she had two two complaints uh number one the uh I have the deserada at the end of the uh of the Book and she says I didn't have the D on it that was one complaint Big Time complaint and the second complaint was I did a um I

I do cartoons that are real funny I mean they're haha cartoons and I did one and sometime in order to emphasize and I'm standing here uh reading her blueprint I may color something like this doctor slapped this woman and it said this was a one session therapy he slapped at her and that was It and so I did Red there and uh she complained that it reminded her of blood and uh she did not appreciate that so I mean you know uh I can't win them all can't win them all Joe well out of before

we run out of time here how what are some of the books that have influenced you or some of the people and I know that I want people to get your books and I want them to get a blueprint and they'll contact you directly but was there something that stood out or stands Out in your mind now yes yes yes yes yes yes must must must tell you this one good uh Laura Huxley wrote a book you are not the target I've never read that you know I've seen it I've seen why well Jose brought

it to me Jose yes uhuh he said read this there's something in there that you need to uh to share with people well let me tell you uh last week I had a well drug I mean they were digging a well on my five acres that I live here because we're having kind of a Little shortage of water around here yeah and so they were drilling a well and they came at 7 in the morning and I'm I'm still in bed but um uh the dring there's nothing as irritating is hearing those things I mean

you know on and off and on and off and I thought the first thing I thought about was L huxley's book you're not the target she said whenever you are experiencing noise that irritates you noise is energy change that energy into Something positive and heal something in your physical that now needs healing and take that energy and use it in any area that you want well while they were there while they were here I stubbed my toe the other day and it's healing and it was throbbing and I thought okay let's get with the program

and I sat here and every time that they drilled because they stopped momentarily I put energy into that toe you cannot believe H and it's okay I Mean there's there's you don't even know anything happened to it so that's very very very important you are not the target yes you are not the Target by Laura Huxley do you have another one very good do you have another one that comes to mind or a person I like I like that one I like that one and any of Vincent peele's book or Murphy's books yeah because you

know Neville Gard Neville uh yes you talked about him before and he impressed you Yes he did I just wanted if you had met him or read any of his no no no and uh you send me your books and all of your books have an overtone of being very positive and that's what I appreciate about with about you're doing your work kid yeah and doing a good job no kidding well thank you of course you are as well well I'm about to run out of time here on what I can record I wanted to

thank you for making time and find out is there anything you want to leave people With like a thought or a joke or a comment or a quote anything well honey I think we cover I think we about covered all bases didn't we yeah yeah I think we did too is there any final thought though anything you want them to well I'm telling you it's always good to to talk to my dear friend Joe a anytime that um uh we need to um exchange ideas or whatever because uh you you're just going to be surprised

how many how your name comes up on these emails they're Calling you Dr Joe now they're calling you the Monk and we knew you moned around in one of our past lives yes that's obvious we'll talk about that in person sometime I I want to tell you one more thing and um I don't believe in remote viewing MH but uh last year on my birthday June the 1st I'm sitting here and um you came to mind and you can confir verify this if you want to uh I saw you do you have a blue Blazer

uh you were in an uh an auditorium situation you were walking up and down the hall and you had this blue blazing are on and people are stopping and telling you how handsome you looked and how pretty that color was it was a kind of a teal blue or a blue beautiful blue and um what I noticed Joe was um this y this older man stood in the corner and was watching you and he had Envy to such a degree that he looked like s Simon lree and what I Telepathically communic because you came to

my mind a telepathic Community anytime I talk to Joe or I have in touch with him I need to remind you when you're out with people in an audience especially uh before you get on stage uh put the light around you put the light around you kid and it's prot protection it is definitely protection because some of these people are strong and they can get in and make you feel inadequate or disc Conglomerated or whatever you don't want that to happen no well that's good advice for me and everybody and yes I did have a

blue blazer that everybody commented on as I walked around after giving a seminar last summer okay and that one guy was so damn envious of you that I thought um I have to tell to to do that that's something I always did on the circuit uh want can I have one more talk here one more thing uh this happened up in in Colorado I'm not going To say where but I was sponsored by a church and I get up there and uh this um was a huge huge church but they did have their entire uh

congregation there and there were so many many people that they put folding seats in the in the aisle while I'm up there and all I'm talking about was I'm to do my book review and I'm talking to these people discern discern discern I said you read a book okay that is the author's uh uh ideas or his comments or his experience now you Discern now you hear something discern what they're saying because don't let them influence you unless you want to and then of course I showed them how they open themselves to suggestion and I

said don't need that be your own person well while I'm talking all of a sudden in the audience there's a man and he happens to be in the aisle seat uh I see him with a keg of ice around him he's enclosed in a big piece of ice I'm watching and as I'm talking About Discerning and then going into another area I look at and the ice is spreading now he has he's in this enclosed ice and the next person beside him is in ice and the woman beside him is in ice and I'm watching

as this ice is uh expanding out all of a sudden when I see this I merely close my eyes one second and I'll say put him where he's supposed to be and that's all and when I said that I opened my eyes this man got up and they all had I had Stopped while he uh while they had to get up and he walked out the back door well and now the first the first break Reverend Nichols who had sponsored me uh came up and he said oh he said I'm so embarrassed I don't know

what possessed this man he said I'm going to get on to him that was so rude I'm so sorry uh did that bother you and I said oh no no no I said what is POS his position here uh in in this uh Community oh he said oh he is um he's the Deacon of the church here And I said uh oh I was interfering uh with his see the last two things on this planet are for people to balance greed and power power over people and greed and he was in power over these people

he like to be in an authorative position and I'm now what I'm doing I am threatening him and that's when the ice was formed and he left with the ice and then the the I see the audience as warm after that but the minute there's a Heckler uh and there Never has been in all the years that I lectured because I won't allow it mentally you won't allow it no no I don't allow it no no well you are amazing you want to call me Grace I want to call you grace Amazing Grace Amazing Grace

okay I want to thank you for making the time I can't wait to meet you in person which I hope is very soon and if it's meant to be uh listen there's some things you need to learn that happened in the uh Monastery That I don't think you're still aware of kid well I don't think I want to talk about him publicly on no no definitely not my hypnotic gold member so we'll do that in private sometime oh no no no no no no no no but thank you and God speed to all my listeners

go get Helen's book uh contesting get a blueprint from her and get her other books that including a new one novel that just came out U meanwhile anytime I can share with you I'm here kid all right thank you all Right Joe byebye bye