there's so many different ways of getting rich I do think you have to have some level of dream that's bigger than your fear there's a lot more smarter people out there than they give themselves credit for the only difference is that I start how do you get a part of it today right now I do believe there's a a misconception and something that most people get wrong is that you can't do what you enjoy or passion or dream about and make a lot of money doing it I don't believe that there's 3,100 billionaires on the
planet which is not that many so if you want to meet one and learn from one that's a really great cheat code of life I was around the highest standard on Earth in specifically in business at a very young age and I feel very lucky to be there as the business got going about a one or two years in I I joined I joined 2005 at that point when we had 10 million people he's like we're going to have a billion people on this site we had 10 million no one knew us everyone thought Myspace
was going to crush us I've worked directly for Zuckerberg Dustin moskovitz Matt CER these are all billionaires Sean Parker been around Peter teal a little bit um I think the the two biggest kind of prises he was very focused and I I went to him many times I was like can we please try to make money like I built Facebook ads I helped build Facebook mobile I help build Facebook status updates which didn't really no one really wanted which is now the main thing on Facebook and Twitter and all these sides but what was fascinating
is that at that time of making money he's like no we just care about getting to a billion people and that level of focus was so impressive but probably the most shocking was just how much conviction we all had about the mission all of us I don't know if I would kill people but I would have gone to jail for a long time time for Facebook so yeah we were willing to kill for what we were doing the power of asking is the most powerful thing that no one is really improving on or really getting
started on the upside of asking is unlimited and the downside is a moment of dis discomfort really if you start asking people for things you can start getting things if you don't ask you can't get you're just going to get what you get you're not going to get what you want I think you'll be surprised what you can get and what you can learn really which is really interesting how are you solving the goal and the problems and the priorities with the resources that are available there's literally no restriction on effort there's no law the
only law is 24 hours besides that you can work as hard as you want everyone should be an entrepreneur everyone because if you get fired today what's your backup plan go on indeed.com and pray you hear all these like I'd say fake entrepreneurs or fake coaches they they don't actually have any real businesses Zuckerberg Warren Buffett all these people really just did one thing there's not enough credit given to people that make good decisions consistently over long periods of time I remember you know I worked for Zuckerberg directly and the crazy part about business this
is kind of the craziest part at the same time you only need one hit just one with million dollar weekend in the book one of the biggest breakthroughs for people is just getting started because Zuckerberg really has done one thing he started Facebook that's it everything else he bought nothing else that guy's come up with has been good so if you think about that for choosing a husband or wife you just if you could find one great one you're done and you got to keep working on it for a long period of time but the
same same thing with business like I tried 24 different businesses to finally get to appsumo to finally eventually get rich right so yeah you're swinging you're swinging but just one works awesome but I think people don't swing enough they don't even get started swinging and that's you know they're they're not ready on the sidelines and it's there's never there's never a good time best time is right now it's not yesterday cuz I passed it's not tomorrow cuz you don't know it's right now Zuckerberg had a giant vision and I I do think you have to
have some level of dream that's bigger than your fear cuzz that's that's how you can get going cuz we're all afraid of something so your dream has to be bigger than your fear and the dream of of what you're excited about and then the reality is that you can actually get going towards that dream sooner than you realize I've done a lot of things man I've been swinging for a long time and that's something that's available to everyone and I do think that's missed out on that there's a lot of ordinary people being rich and
being successful and and people think it's an exclusive club and that's just not true so at 40 I think I just finally over compounding a lot amount of time of doing a lot of things finally getting to the doing the things actually really want I felt really proud of the things I'm doing and yes it does seem that other people are excited about all this stuff which is great you know we as any business owner the number one thing you're focusing on is who's that customer that whether you're creating a video or whether you're creating
a lawnmowing business or a software business most people are just still sitting and they're they're if they want to be a good cook they're just watching another YouTube video on how to cook but to be a good cook you have to eventually get in the kitchen so you have to get going right now and get going on these things to be able to get there the other approach that you know is an appsumo Val value is test and invest how do you test it so if you're driving don't just drive really fast like Drive really
a little slow and just kind of see all right well it feels like I'm on the right path and you keep doing that same thing with YouTube instead of putting out two videos a month put out a video every day for 30 days or do 100 I call it the law of 100 stick to at least 100 and then make that decision and you could test a lot of these things and then find what works and go more further with it most people are like well I'm going to build an app for 6 months I'm
going to build a super big V YouTube video I'm going to spend a month on it put it out there no one wants it you could have found that out in 1 hour and if someone wants it great you can do a lot more of it but I would say the success of a founder and success in as a if you want to be an employee CEO within a company is how are you being resourceful how are you solving the goal and the problems and the priorities with the resources that are available most people sit
and they complain like oh I don't have this like there's a lot of people I'm not getting paid enough well what are you doing about it did you put together a proposal did you go look at comparison analysis did you go create more Revenue so it's obvious that people should get pay you more uh that's probably about the 98% 2% like Sean and others at our team are saying here's all the money I made for the company here's comparables here's a salary you should pay me and you're lucky to pay me this because it's so
less than I'm generating from the business and let's do it in this time frame it's resourceful he's figuring it out you know you spoke about 40-year-old Noah what about 20-year-old Noah like what advice would you give your 20-year-old self hey there little buddy a few things I would focus a lot more on positive selft talk I I was very externally validating like Facebook fired me I'm so angry I suck these guys are better I'm never going to make it how am I going to get rich I'm not rich yet everyone else is Rich so I
really would have liked more optimism and just positive selft talk and how do how you can do that now is that anytime you criticize yourself say a positive thing this is borrowed from my buddy tinan and he's something I've worked on by 40 so if you're like a I sucked at this thing you can say that that's good to say fine the next thing you say is oh I'm learning that's okay you're learning hey you didn't do a good job with that okay well I can do better next time and you do that over time
and time again that builds up your self-confidence and your selfworth so that would be number one see number two would be patience and optimism again optimism so just patience we're so all these cliches are so true like oh the destination not the journey you know don't worry about I was like shut up dude I'm poor and I want get rich so I don't care about your your shitty journey and I made it much harder on myself and more frustrating when that is the whole experience the whole experience is the journey and so I would have
liked to been hey you have a vision you have optimism that it'll work out you're talking positively let's be patient that you will get there and I I do think I ended up at the similar destination regardless but I definitely made it a lot more un unsatisfactory along the way do you believe everyone wants to be rich no not at the deepest level no we want to feel good about ourselves and proud of ourselves and in our in our in this Society you know maybe in the alien Society it's different but in this Society we
have determined that the exchange of value for money is is how we're going to operate and for 20 years I was just so obsessed with creating money and getting money and I was not really obsessed at all enjoying life and enjoying the money and that's something when Co happened that that trans 18d my life and I'm grateful for it it was definitely unfortunate for a lot of people I was just grateful that it brought up okay well if this is not forever how do we enjoy this life when I go to these billionaires one of
my favorite questions is how do you enjoy money but what do you regret about the money and almost all of them they regret not spending more time with their family and only a very few were able to balance that and that's something that's stuck with me where it's the reason I left San Francisco I didn't want to talk about funding and employees and uh how bigger companies I don't care I really you know what I'm interested in is like how good is your life like how are you with yourself not even necessar you have to
be this donor person I think that's that's that's one way of a great life how are you to your partner how are you to your parents how are to your friends how are you the people you work with and I think money is very sensitive and I think we're taught a lot about how to create it but definitely there's much more there as well how to enjoy it and different things that people enjoy for