hi this is Dr Ben moral welcome to episode 76 of reptile genetics weekly glad to have you here uh it's been busy and uh you may catch it a little bit both Kayla and I are getting beat down a little bit by the uh the bug bugs going around but uh we're here we made it um so yeah uh for an update for samples coming in uh we will have fast results going out pretty much every day this week um we do have all of them going from the the new 10 that we have um
those are all going as fast us well and so if you send in any for those you should be getting those as well uh last weekend this week um sex determination going out a couple times a week and then uh the panels we had results go out last week and so if you didn't get results on that the next ones my guess would be will be coming in about a week and a half something like that we'll be doing the next panel run so it's coming might be two weeks week and a half to two
weeks something like that um we'll have the next panels coming so um but yeah I think that's all I have for sample updates we have several other things we'll talk about but we'll bring Kayla on how are you doing hey Ben I'm doing well uh I got the sniffles but I'm okay um I said I'm gonna hit some Zam and uh I mean I'm getting my flu shot and everything so uh if I have to Mainline DayQuil when I get to cber I'm gonna I'll I'll mask up if I'm still funky but I'm you know
so y'all stay hydrated out there you know uh if you got symptoms of some sort of funk you might want to mask up when going outside but other well outside in like public mingling with people but you know is the season it's great um but thankfully I think I'm over the worst as of a couple weeks ago so um I felt good while I was in Charlotte at the rep show but yesterday when I woke up and then today again oh no best but I'm I'm hoping like you I'm very excited for the clubber Fest
this weekend so hope I can get feeling better by then yeah of course um I mean despite feeling the funk I heard you were on a podcast recently right yes thankfully he recorded it before I was feeling sick so oh good yeah so tell us about um it was uh that wolf that Wolfie Royals um and he had he's is he in New Zealand or Australia I believe he's in the UK oh in the UK oh okay fair enough very cool go on and uh talk a little bit is fun to kind of get a
little bit different questions they're in a different market and thinking about uh ball python morphs and and genetic testing from a little bit different point of view that was fun being on there uh we also talk yeah specifically about like some of the history about uh desert ghost and so we kind of do an overall overview of uh desert ghost and how we got to the point now where we only test for Desert ghost SE so so yeah it's a good it's a good one uh Tom's great and a good person to support so I
think he's on Instagram and and YouTube and he may be other places as well so yeah definitely good person to support yeah and I I'll be sure to have a link in the description so you can go and listen to the podcast episode um and if you are one of the people who've been wondering about you know you followed the DGA and B um like the DGA and B thing when we were first figuring that out and then later on you saw how it turned into just testing for dgc so if you're curious about how
that ended up happening that's a great overview so well worth a lizen um and let us know in the comments if that's something you want us to talk about on this show I mean we did kind of go through all the details from the very beginning when we knew that we didn't know everything we let you know we were gonna look for dgc and then we did find it and and kept you updated but I know those are now you know like a year old so yeah exactly if you want a an overview on this
show let us know in the comments and we'll be happy to do that yeah definitely um just to knock out a couple uh few business things before we get into the meat of the episode um uh Hey if you want lower shed testing be sure to listen into this uh lower lower price shed testing I should say um we we'll just skim over this real quick just because you know we' hit it every week but it's really really helpful for you guys we do this for y'all um you know if you have a lot of
sheds that you want to test but you know the price is really high the more snakes you test shoot us an email um shoot Sean an email at renin gmail.com um for morph testing bulk testing can get as low as $23 per mutation test or even as low as 15 per test if you're doing like V CD sex determination um so those and even then I'll throw in if you have way more you know sheds you got a ton and it could even be lower than that oh yeah I mean we got we got people
who do exactly that um I mean there are some folks who sean gets gets a box from pretty much every week at this point right uh I think um so it's uh it's definitely worth it um we want to give you guys the most bang for your buck um so yeah uh and likewise you can it doesn't have to be like it doesn't have to be a ton of snakes especially if you're doing those morph tests if you're testing four snakes for five mutations each that's still 20 tests that counts as bulk uh shoot us
an email see what we can get you um and like send a list of what you want or have a spreadsheet Sean will give you a quote so Y and uh we also talk about this most of the time and I'll just throw in there really briefly if you have one animal you want to do multiple tests on you can also get a discount on that either through morph Market or clutch they have ways to bundle or or group those so you're not paying so like if it's you know three or four different $50 tests
you're not going to be paying $50 for each one and so those of you that only have a few animals and you want to test for multiple things um then we can get you a better deal on that too yeah definitely um and so tell us about Charlotte how was that this weekend it was good it was a lot of fun uh thank you to all of you that were there and I I really enjoyed walking around saying hi to everybody and and talking and enjoying the show um I realized on the way back and
then my wife always gives me a hard time I'm I'm not good at remembering to take pictures and Kayla one of the first questions she asks is what pictures did you take and yeah I for pictures I gotta get better about that that's okay it was a lot of fun um I did show yeah I did want to show some of the stuff so from balls and Strikes ball python um Margaret Woodruff so this is a uh painting I got from her oh that's so nice yeah it's a uh banana combo I believe it was
from Leviathan snakes that originally hatched it out so pretty cool and then this is the one that she oh my goodness I love the Reds in that oh yeah for that one she got the pattern so well that Justin Cabela this is a Kenova animal and when Justin kabua was walking by their Booth he stopped he's like I know exactly which animal that is yeah oh that's awesome pretty cool beautiful work yes and I don't have to feed and clean up after those and they still make me happy so thank you Margaret oh great job
Margaret those are fantastic but we have uh my kids actually have been um working with crested geckos oh we got a new buddy yeah so from jlp morphs uh out of South Carolina that they've been sending us lots of pictures when we do shows so we did get another crested gecko look at him oh he's precious what morph is that uh I know he's Harley Quin I don't know what else I don't I don't know the uh crusted geckos very well yeah oh my gosh he is adorable he's handsome yes he is does he still
have his tail or is he a frog butt he does he still has it awesome I mean granted I love frog butt crusty too but you know it is kind of a um I know that's always a concern with uh some species that drop their tails um it's like if you ever have like if you ever have a legless lizard or something like that's a lot of animal with a tail you can lose oh yeah makes me nervous however love them either way um and I know they just decide to do do it sometimes it
doesn't even have to really necessarily be a stress a stressor caused by you um but that's awesome and you said you you guys hatched out your first ones or your kids hatched out their first crusties recently right so this is the one from the first clutch that we hatched oh look it oh my goodness he's thinking about oh there he goes what a cutie they've already gotten good jump yeah go little man look at him that's a good baby so yeah they're fun little things oh my gosh that's awesome I love that your kids are
getting into reptiles and breeding their their own Critters too yeah it's fun stuff but yeah I really enjoyed it um good both Nick and Lauren and then uh Troy and Lisa I mean they were working hard they're they had some some various things to overcome I think the show turned out really beautiful there's lots of people from lots of places um I've gone to lots of Charlotte Repticon and this this felt really nice My Wife and Kids came and they've come they've gone to Charlotte Repticon too and and as you would imagine um a a
show like this is is uh much nicer they really enjoyed it they got some Jewel some uh reptile related jewelry and and so very cool it was it was a really nice show and definitely some very cool animals there too it was it was awesome yeah well awesome sounds good uh glad you guys had a good time glad your uh family got to tag along and get some cool knickknacks so that's great um and then uh this weekend we're going to CBD Fest up in Indianapolis uh and we are sponsoring CBD Fest so I'm me
as the resident grid nerd I am so hyped for this um and uh yeah no um flight's ready we're going to be up there and uh I mean you'll find our booth we will have a shed drop if you want to bring us some sheds uh not just for colubrids but also whatever you happen to be breeding um or if you have ordered a test and you have it labeled with your order number you can drop that in the shed drop box as well or hand it hand it to one of us because Ben and
I will both be there um so really excited yeah anything else about clubd Fest or show stuff no forward to it yeah that's that's going to be cool it'll be the the first time that I know of there's a a show where everything that will be out there will be clue brids it's all CLS no it's gonna be so cool uh a huge variety so I'm excited um uh under or over you think I'm gonna walk out with an animal because it might happen determined not to but you have a tough time not getting something
oh yeah um well anyway uh let's ooh and a some cool looking ball pythons because we're talking about the hypogene today um and it's time for our monthly is morph Spotlight so let's talk about some hypos um so this animal actually we featured on last week's show but it's it's a hypo in addition to a fire YB ghi Powerball hypo clown um it's just so cool looking you can't you can't not look at it it's awesome very of course that's uh one of um kenova's uh creation uh let's see we've got um Balls of Fury
a ghi YB hypo which I love I just can't I I love hypo with dark jeans it looks so good me too um and we've got the from jlp morphs a chocolate butter hypo who's feeling very shy but I love the little like not quite highlighter yellows but like those really high saturation yellow that are like peeking through around the outline the dark outlines of the markings yeah really nice see um and we've got this hypo clown which it's funny I sometimes forget what just a plain clown looks like sometimes because I see so many
combos with it um not that that's a bad thing but that's just like a really really nice pattern I can see why people love it that's pretty OD en hypo also from Balls of Fury um a whole lot of folks sent to send some pictures of hypos uh so really nice looking another jlp a pastel butter hypo let's see uh on the left this is from Inky clouds a mahogany hypo and that the one on the right looks very familiar because that's one of a the animal you produced isn't it Ben yeah yeah that's one
of Cisco's babies love Cisco he never good I never would have guessed that that much orange would come through that they look like just like orange cream ball pythons they're crazy yeah and his dad like like if you look on uh on his head there's kind of like a grayish or bluish look there his dad Cisco like he almost looks um in a good way like moldy cheese and yeah uh so as soon as I saw this snake I was like oh that's a Cisco baby it's got to be um and sure enough so it's
always nice to see little updated pictures of uh animals that well you produce and also that um I've met by being in your snake room yeah you took the picture that was in the ad that that Tommy saw when she got that that's right yeah um let's see black hood Mojave I love I really like the contrast I think I I think I like yellow and neutral tones together because whenever I see that in a ball python I'm like oh that's pretty um black pastel hypo uh from balls and Strikes um an OD hypo next
to a redhead hypo clown does red head actually produce like a reddish head or like affect the head pattern because that one actually does look like it has like a little it does look like it has a little cap on it on the red animal yeah yeah I honestly don't know a lot about redhead I know it's a very popular mutation right now now and one that we're hoping to get more sheds from so any of you that have redhead or redhead combos send those sheds in and we'll we'll make a test but yeah I
know they make some really cool combos yeah if someone wants to explain in the comments to the CD person what redhead does in ball pythons I would be very cool with that and yes a shs I want to say that it's also the name of the the people I think it's redhead reptiles oh okay for sure someone someone can tell us in the comments uh which part of what we said is true yeah sounds right um spot no's fire YB hypo from armless Angels ball pythons that's awesome Justin great armless Angels is a that's a
really fun name um it's kind of like uh I forget whose tagline it is but there's a breeder out there whose tagline is legless Excellence um and i' I've always like loved that so that that reminds me of that and hypo great picture yeah nice and blue and also just great pose like that is a sweet little loaf of a snake um and I love this animal yeah super OD eny YB banana hypo Pi that's man yeah that's right up my alley I love Orange in pides and that one on top and banana in there
that's really cool oh yeah like that's uh like that's like an orange sherbet sherbet swirl is it sherbet or sherbet I don't know I can't read it's fine uh either way that snake looks positively edible um uh and we got nice hypo chocolate I think chocolate and hypo are both really nice together those that's that's a good Gene combo um from weet morph constrictors beautiful um all right so let's talk about the mutation itself um Mr geneticist uh take it away yeah so this is one there's only one mutation that that we test for and
that the other companies that do testing that as far as I know there's just one one that we found it does seem like there are at least one or two other lines that are not very common so really the vast majority of hypo ball pythons whether they're called orange hypo orange ghost or hypo or ghost or whatever um even the the yellow ghosts from back in the day I remember some people had yellow ghosts they seem to all be the same uh minus5 mutation so there's five A's T's C's and G's that have been deleted
from the eth Exxon in the uh mlph Gene so so it's a minus five deletion uh it gives us that that cool look that that we see in all these hypos ghosts very cool um and so the paper that it came from was this one which I will also Link in the description if you want to read it um what year did it come out because it's a it's a couple been a couple of years now I think right I think so I think within the last year or two something like that yeah um so
what are so in the each of these figures like what are what are we looking at yeah so this is work done by Dr Hannah sadell and and her students again Eastern Michigan University in there you can see a normal ball python and then what it shed looks like and then in B you can see a hypomelanistic or ghost ball pip python you can see the reduction in in the darker pigments the hypo means reduction and melanin is the dark pigment so it's a reduction in dark pigment is hypomelanistic and you can see that shed
there's there's very little pigment there that's another way you can tell if an animal if you're not totally sure you can wait till they shed and usually the the hypo uh ball pythons their sheds will be clear or almost completely clear so very cool yeah very interesting and then in part C there what the melanophilin gene does mlph um what that Gene does is it helps be part of this apparatus that moves melanosomes or you can think of it as the dark pigment the melan the melanin itself um it helps to be able to move
that dark pigment around in cells and so if there's a problem with that green part there that's the melanophilin then that that way to move the dark pigment around gets messed up so that's like you know needing to have a car to transport you around and then all of a sudden there's no car you're not going to get transported um so that means that there's there's no dark pigment that's moved out into into the tissues uh and so we have that reduction in melanin just because it can't get transported out that's the part it's getting
interesting yeah and then in D there that's showing that eight eight Exxon so if you count out there um from the left that's the eight eth Exxon that's the part of the DNA and Exxon is the part of the DNA that makes something that actually becomes part of the protein so it codes for amino acids that become part of the protein becomes part of the melanophilin protein itself and that minus5 in that eth Exxon causes a frame shift so that makes it so all of the amino acids after that are messed up and a lot
of the time will cause an early stop coat on or cause that a truncation and so you definitely you end up with a protein that is not the same as normal and in this case it makes it so it can't transport that that melanin anymore and therefore we don't have as much dark pigment okay so um so with when those five um when those five letters or proteins are deleted is it it where a gap is is left in there or does it move everything around it up because it's been deleted the second thing you
said that's why it's called a frame shift okay you know the so there's two different sequences that are important there's the DNA sequence and that's the the nucleotides that's the a T's C's and G's so there's five A's T's C's and G's that get deleted yeah then the second sequence that's important is the amino acid sequence and that's the what actually makes the protein and so there every three letters of DNA so like an atg that's called a codon and that makes a single amino acid sequence so atg is as a methionine start so atg
in the DNA equals just an M or a methionine in the amino acid so really we're cutting out one full amino acid and then two thirds of what would code for another and that's why it messes up the frame because there's five that are taken out and every amino acid is coded by three and so it it messes up the frame for everything else after that oh okay cool thank you um I don't know that that was actually helpful but actually no it it did actually um that cleared up for me uh more so thank
you um and that also helps explain oh wait no you weren't we didn't get to every one of these actually so um please continue yeah so e you're seeing that um the sequence of the DNA is Trunk or actually that's looking at the amino acid sequence so the melanophilin is 598 amino acids normally with this minus5 it's going to truncate the protein you only have 363 amino acids so it makes the protein much smaller and onun fun so um and then the uh F down there that's looking at all of the samples that were run
in this in this um study so you're seeing Five ghosts and you're seeing I guess that's what 130 or 150 non- ghosts so they're either hets or they're not ghost at all so okay for this next one uh that does kind of explain what you were saying about you know it's not able to transport the melanosomes yes because when I was looking at this earlier you see in under the wild type uh here I can pop our little faces up there under the wild type you see the little dots that are the melanosomes or the
actual pigment that we'll see are spread out throughout the skin um around the melanocyte which produces the melanosomes and then in in the ghost um and what they believe is happening there or hypothesized to be happening is the melanosomes are all produced there but they're just con they're just mashed together in one spot yeah they never get transported out there's no car to take them out to all the cells in the wild type you see those little dots that gives it the darker color but in the the ghost or the hypo there's there's no Transportation
going on and so that's why there it's a much lighter color interesting because that reminds me of how um of how like there are a bunch of different genes that in the reptile world we refer to as hypo or hypo like um for example like here I go back to my rat snakes we have a hypo like Gene in rat snakes um that is redu a like severely reduced melanin but you're not but it's not a fully a melanistic but it's also it also has no black on it like whereas opposed to the hypo Gene
in ball pythons you actually see some black on them um meaning that it's just an entire an entirely different function probably uh um that reduces melanin in this case the melanin kind of gets stuck somewhere rather than is produ being produced less if I'm explaining that right yeah yeah yeah that's very very good point so the the melanophilin Gene and the melanophilin protein when you mess that up you mess up transport but the melanin still getting made but yeah another another potential Pathway to get a hypo looking animal would be to decrease the production and
those would be totally different genes so yeah yep okay definitely perfectly right that's really cool okay um so here's an example in uh what do we what are they called Modi dogs the Modi dog breed um which I believe is a Belgian hering dog and um this mutation um well here do you want to explain it then yeah so the dark black one in K that's that's kind of the the normal coloration and then there's at least three different mutations in the melanophilin gene that they found in dogs yeah see that you kind of get
very different things you might end up with like d which is kind of like our hypo melanistic ball python that would be kind of like the hypo melanistic um Modi yeah even even other mutations in that same gene might might lead to like some modeling or or even like a you know the in B there you get kind of like a a light brown and white and so you get some different looks um from these different mutations yes it is um I think f is the most well E and F are the most interesting because
you have a very light colored animal but with very dark skin like lips around the eyes um the eyes themselves are dark the dark nose um and so you know usually when I I see a light colored animal I think oh the melanin production was either halted or uh severely reduced but in this case it if it is the same mutation uh it's actually that the melanin is there you can see it right in that like on F you know it's no its eyes the melanin's there it's just not being transported out to all the
other places where the melanin would be spread out to yeah um so interesting I think in F and F there's another play also where it has the E yeah so that's not only a melanophilin mutation but something in another another Gene as well so okay so yeah pretty cool yeah um and then same thing I guess in these these three puppies yeah these are Modi puppies it's just showing them side by side the two on the outside are normal coloration the one in the middle is the the hypomelanistic one so pretty cool very cool all
right um and then again in mink where we've got the standard dark brown silver blue and Headland white yeah so in this case you can see normal Brown you can see a hypo and then you can see a lucis and so in this case we're at the one the silver blue that's a a melanophilin mutation also that causes that that look that they call their silver blue and and ball pythons we call our our hypo so interesting yeah in that case they have a whole Exon that's missing so the whole Exxon got deleted instead of
we got just five base pairs but in this they got a whole Exxon that got cut out which is usually hundreds of base pairs wow and that that's so interesting that it caused the same M the same uh make sure I have my vocabulary right go back one um the same melanophilin protein right melanophilin protein that has stopped working yep yeah it broke it even worse with that but broken either way it leads to similar look so oh yeah cool so if you want to know hypo and a ball python looks like in a mink
there it is nice yeah uh and these are all of the contributors um to this study uh which is a text wall but it's also you know a whole bunch of um familiar faces like yes like there's Dave Dunn of Ballin hand pythons he's like your like our neighbor pretty much yeah yeah he's right here Tammy Hutchinson she's been on most if not all of these Michael Cole yeah there's lots of Kiren Graves that works with uh with Dr sadell yeah um aie Maldonado is that Aussie Bo's aie or different Aussie I'm not okay I
don't think that's his last name but okay but yeah this is a you know a good time to say a shed donor shout out in this case it's the donors for this this uh research you know thanks once again like we say and we don't still even though we say it all the time we don't say it enough um thank you all so much for being willing to take the time to collect sheds and and send them in and you know whether it's to Dr sadell or us or uh you know Hannah or uh Heather
up in Canada um you know it's so so awesome to be able to get uh sheds sent in and and get these things figured out because just like we can't do it without you all Dr sadell and you know any of us we can't do it without you guys sending sheds in so I know it's like like Kayla said a wall of names but once again thank you so much it's awesome to be able to make this progress definitely um let's see so because this how many hypos have we tested at this point yeah definitely
thousands thousands yeah we've tested thousands of hypos and there's been a paper published about it so we grade this in A+ yes um and what does it mean when we what does that mean for people who haven't seen our grading system before Ben so it's just a very very wellestablished test and it's not just us running it there are other testing companies that run it and you know far as I've heard from everyone this this does seem to be the the best test and the one that that does uh give you the correct results for
the vast majority of hypomelanistic ball pythons um like we said there is at least one or two other lines that are not compatible but they're a very small portion of hypomelanistic ball pythons and any of you that do have what looks like very obviously a hypo ball python and you run that with us and get a negative um we would be very interested in getting those sheds because we can sequence and find out it might be something similar to what Kayla was talking about maybe instead of U messing up the transportation of the melanocytes or
the melanin maybe there's another Gene that's been affected that Mak it so not as much melanin gets produced um but anyway we would love to be able to sequence those even if it's a smaller percent of the uh the hypomelanistic ball pythons that's still something we're interested in and I'm sure Dr sadell would also be interested since she's done that paper if there's any that that don't have that mutation send us sheds but but like I said the vast majority of you that have hypo are interested in getting hypo ball pythons um this minus5 and
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get into his tank on the outside of it he is like nose rubbing against it like oh God I have to get in and the cat's just looking at him and I'm like my son so I pick him up he's fine the cat hasn't messed with him honestly he could he could hold his own against the cat at this point but even still uh I do not want to risk that he was fine um just very upset and smelled like he had musked a little bit but yeah I don't know how it was so stressful
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