How to give shahada in 10min (6 of 8)

so now the black people in the audience now you know your origin amazing this is on but so s minutes and with that seven minutes yeah the next and that's why the Mormons when they come to you is so it's so easy to start with that they come to you have you heard of the Church of Christ of letter yeah absolutely aren't you the ones that believe that you know the god used to be a human who lived on Earth and we become gods and immediately look down and then you know the high point low

Point Mo you come with the low point you come with the high point so the minute someone yeah that's us you're ashamed of it you start to invite them to Islam so instead of them giving you da you use that so when they're in that state of Shame you're the one now giving the talk you're the one giving the da don't be the one who the someone with this belief system is giving you that U let me see here wrote something else here someone asked me a question I said going to mention to okay uh

some someone asked also yeah that was one question and there was another question yeah great um the the question was about the feminite men you know feminite men they're not gay or anything they're just a feminine you know they have loose joints the wrist Falls freely um they sometimes some of them use women's cologne and things like that but they're not gay or anything like that uh in Sudan for example a lot of cooks are a feminine and most of the time the cook is just talks like a woman uses a woman's perfume but is

not gay you know it doesn't feel affection for men or anything like that they just a feminite men and they used to exist also at the time the prophet said just a guy is softy you know very soft and likes the company of women and so on and so forth they um don't necessarily fall into the category of gays andless they start doing that kind of activity and becoming gay but also Alo there's U there's also like U and it's not gay that's why when they try to argue there's something called clim filter syndrome which

is basically as you know the male has two X chromosomes I mean sorry the female has two X chromosomes and the male has an X and A Y so this is is a genetic disorder where they have two x's and a y so XX y so they've got XX which is to make them female then but they've got an XY this is the kind of person that you see who genetically was born like this and you might see a a a man/woman someone with cl clim filters they will have uh let's say male hands like

hairy hands thick fingers and then they'll have like um you know mamory glands let's say and then they will have U you know something male and something female and you might be confused and they're not someone who went through an operation or tried to change or anything like that they were just born like that so if you ever find someone trying to use that as an argument to say look it's genetic they're not gay these people they just see have both genes and uh some their personality will be one or the other like uh I

interviewed one person who had fine filters and he was a male and he was married and he was taking other hormones to just keep his the feminine um physical part suppressed but he was actually a male and he had the and sometimes it's the opposite it's a woman but then she's got you know the the man hands or the or the hair and stuff or something like that it has nothing to do with gays so they're not gay what which one which one it is that trans best or transexual the one who is like U

naturally they they have uh uh their generals are it's like a mix of male and female what about them uh what about them as far as the ruling or did they classify as gay ruling uh the ruling in the the ruling is like as far as going to Men's Rooms or the women's rests yeah like what would they be considered here and uh can they marry and things like thatuh well you know what I I've never looked that up actually I've not encountered anything like that uh so has only looked that up in like Islam

QA or something like that yeah yeah whole about the uh that these people uh like that some of them uh like actually like sexually not active right so um and uh it was like for them to like um walk onto him and you know who who don't want hij and and the ruling is that the feminine man the feminine man yeah yeah and and and and it's actually he's talking about trans trans and like they have the option uh to choose like which sex they actually want to be and they can take like which hormone

they want they can have surgery if they want okay I'm still confused not that you didn't explain well but uh but uh look let's just uh let's just do this let's move on and the the people because I I'm not sure where we're talk like there's there might be an effeminate man and he's just a male who's effeminate he doesn't have the right to change you know and to to go through operation to try to become a woman and if that does happen is he allowed to enter and the women's restroom he would be probably

allowed because he's an feminite man to to enter upon women more so in a way than the male would be allowed because at the time of the Prophet there was a man who was a feminist and and he used to sit and talk with the women Prophet allowed him because he was a femin but then the prophet realized that the man pays attention to to female physique said he will not upon woman again you know so he made a description so he's actually one of those who looks at the woman physique even though he was

a feminist Pro forbade him to to sit with the woman after that um then there's I mean then because now you know the world is so mixed up we've got some really really extreme cases a friend of mine was telling me about his boss who used to be a male and just it doesn't get worse than this he was a male went through operations and hormones and surgery and became a female and then became a lesbian and he went back to liking women could have stayed a man un like women I mean it's just doesn't

get worse than that so obviously that's beyond me those those kinds of things I don't know how to answer that I would look it up Islam QA or harass or something like that okay so we said Allah does not need us to worship him but Allah says someone might ask you why did he even command us to worship him so can you explain that why should we worship Allah sure he commanded us understand that what did he even command us to do that yes sir because he created us so can he just create us and

we don't have to pray to be thankful for what he has given us can I be thankful without praying I'm not saying it's a valid argument yeah because we need it because we need it we need it's true I mean that was true that was true as well to see see which which of his Creations are obedient to him and which ones are not okay so you can link it to obedience and Disobedience do you do like when there are B times go back to worship go right okay soing person all right so so in

the bad times it's it's something you fall back on woring Allah please raise your voice brothers so the sisters can hear it's the same L this just saying it's a mercy it's not like a it's not a chore it's a mercy the prayer itself uhuh brother saying it's not a chore it's a mercy very good yes sir um this is a question I asked you I just I just want to kind of little rephrase kind of tell you the premise of it basically the premise that what's what is humor for him in creating us like

why did he create why he need to create enoy why did he create so why did Allah then create us I don't know but you answer that question is uh we're created that that's the fact where do we go from here not not cre like where did you get that from I could have gotten every time you qu something exactly like I said I'm like Hey cuz you mean you could have it's not like I made up every argument so excellent very nice so the brother is saying you know sometimes what if someone keeps pushing

it with the wise why should we pray Allah command Us in the Quran why you explain why you explain why you explain why you explain when you run out of explanations now what are you going to do going to fire back at him said look this is what's going on this is the situation what are you going to do about it that's the question what are you going to do about it we're here and we don't know all the wise but Allah is there and we're here what are you going to do about it that's

it you bring it back to the DA but okay let's push it with the wise until we have to stop someone else someone new ahed he's the creat he creates okay now by the way don't please don't quote this Hadith it's it's not authentic a lot of times I ask that question and someone put his hand up I'm going to say no they'll say that something like that it's it basically it says I was a treasure that was not known I wanted to be known so I created people to worship and it's just not authentic

don't use it but as some Scholars say that Allah Allah is so magnificent so great that he is deserved deserving of being worshiped deserving of being appreciated and that's why we look at the numbers of Angels the phenomenal phenomenal numbers of angels and they're constantly worshiping Allah subh tal nonstop they don't stop to eat or drink or talk nonstop some of them since Allah created them and Allah knows when that how long that has been they've been in Non-Stop worship until the day of judgment and when the day of judgment comes they will say oh

Allah we haven't worshiped you enough and you know thei of the where the hands said the heavens have creaked rightfully so that they did Creek so we're talking about the heavens the seven Heavens not just you know our un so you know all of space and everything that's within the first Heaven the worldly heaven so this is just the size of the first heaven and then the second and the third and the fourth and the fifth and the sixth and the seventh their vast size Prophet said they creaked from the weight on them it say

rightfully so that they the creek for there is not a handpan just from here to there there's an angel standing or or bowing or prostrating in prayer so here I mean just this room you fill every hands spand there's a person here here here here what if we fill this whole city every hand spand there's someone what if that fill the whole continent the whole planet we're talking the seven Heavens loaded with angels constantly standing in either bowing or prostrating or or standing in prayer said they've been doing so ever since Allah created them and

they will continue to do so quality and quantity until the the trumpet or horn is sound on the day of judgment they will say oh Allah we have not worshiped you enough all this so far be it from us to pray and then feel arrogant just pray to all no that's why theh taugh us to say first thing you do after three times why saying this Salah that I just completed is not befitting the Majesty of Allah the greatness of Allah these angels have been worshiping this excellent quality they don't think of anything else and

they would say we haven't worshiped you enough Ya Allah so Allah is so great and so magnificent that he's deserving of being worshiped deserving of being recognized and and some people try to explain this like when they say like when you have let's say for the sake of of an example and it's not a comparison to Allah like when you have some like vintage and or let's say classical car that's in superb condition you know like very oldie but it's an excellent condition and if it's in your G Gage constantly it's not appreciated right so

that's why they have these events when they bring them just so people can come the public can come and look at these cars and stare inside so they can be appreciated yeah some Scholars tell you then some of the the attributes of Allah will be manifested when there is a creation like for example theah of Allah it will be manifested meaning applied when there is a creation to show when there is a creation that that to create and so on and so forth and the wisdoms and all these other things so you explain it like

that if they keep pushing with the wise and you're going to run out of explanation then you turn it back on them say well you know what now you've run to we' we've reached the point where my knowledge is limited and you can't expect any human being on Earth anyways to go that far into knowledge the question now is you know it's the truth you know Allah exists and you're here what are you going to do about it just now get back to your da again don't always take the position of you ask I answer

you ask I answer yes s so it's like we are different kind we are we are we have the and this is why Allah ising when we make to him Allah is because we are to him our the second is that we are created from Material blood and and and and the materials are f with water and and food and so but Spirit can only excellent everyone understand thank you very much sister but um let see here I want I want to talk about the flip side of the argument one more time or to explain

it a little bit further right so I said we can always use the flip side of the argument to explain something we used it with the intervention and how much or what the bad things happen to good people what the good things happen to bad people there are also other ways to do it so for example let's use it with a Muslim now so one Muslim will tell you that and you've heard Muslims make this argument before they'll tell you that don't say that Allah is on his throne some Muslims will tell you that don't

don't don't make the argument that Allah is settled on his throne even though Allah says that in the Quran he told you no he's not on his throne look at their argument when they make the argument it sounds like it's very respectful but when you push the argument what what are we doing here fixing audio a little B but when you fix the argument uh okay let's just so basically they're saying don't say that Allah is on his throne because that way you're limiting see how it sounds good you're limiting Allah to one place don't

say Allah is on his throne you with me so the argument is you're limiting Allah and it makes it sound like you're trying to be very respectful here and it sounds good in the beginning but then when you flip the argument around it's a big big problem what they're saying so they're saying don't say Allah is on his throne Allah said he's on his throne Allah is settled on his throne so now in order to to stay with their their argument they have to now twist and change the meanings of the Quran which is the

first problem they get into So when you say Allah has settled on his throne they say no here means which means like he conquered his throne which now brings us into a big problem you're saying Allah conquered the throne that means there was someone there on the throne so we had to conquer something see how how they fall into problems because of their argument so they're saying don't say Allah is on his throne you're limiting Allah to one place but let me flip this around you're saying if he's on his throne he's limit physically limited

to one place if I flip it around it means he's physically everywhere that's the opposite and that is a bigger problem you're trying to follow leave dis you trying to avoid being disrespectful you actually fell into it even more so when you flip it around it means he's physically everywhere and then you ask him so here you can use analogy but we're flipping the argument still so they're saying then physically everywhere means is everywhere in the church in restrooms bars all these places that you wouldn't be caught dead in and you're saying he's physically in

there and historically Muslims have gone astray with this because that some of them even wrote poetry saying that the the dog and the pig is nothing but our the dog and the pig is our God why because the dog takes up space the pig takes up space and if God is everywhere physically that means also inside them and so is the the monk in the monaster he's our one of them said you know he said you know I don't know which is the I don't know which one of us is theah and which one of

us is the m the one who's supposed to worship the other another one says subh subh doesn't say Subhan Allah subh because Allah is in him what he believes you know so when you look at the flip side of the argument it's a bigger problem they were trying to respect Allah and say he's not on his throne because that limits him to one place but you flip it around you're saying he's everywhere in places that you wouldn't want to be caught dead in and then you're saying he's inside all these things so you get into

a bigger problem so you flip the argument around this is the same thing that happened at the time of IM when they said the Quran was created so they again tried initially to be respectful to Allah they said the Quran is not the speech of Allah why because speech is renewable and Allah is meaning like ancient he's been there for for ever so if you say Allah speaks that's a renewable quality and Allah is ancient orim I don't know how to transl be Beyond ancient so so they're trying to respect Allah but the problem is

when you flip their argument around that's what did when you flip the argument around we have a big problem now because you're saying the Quran is not the speech of Allah it's something created by Allah and all the creation of Allah and everything besides Allah is imperfect so now you're saying the Quran is imperfect and it has flaws in it and everything has an end you're saying now the Quran has some kind of end that's one of the arguments that used when he tells him that you know I came to make W and I came

to pray and I couldn't recite any Surah and then I looked in the room and I found the Quran dead on the floor so the got UPS said does the Quran die he said well you said it's created and everything that's created has an end so they were so I mean he used the analogy and everything but when you flip the argument around you see that it's a big problem so that's the benefit of using the flip side of the argument that's why someone when they say like you I don't believe in organized religion for

what it's worth I love throwing in the we disorganized this is so they can think about the flip side I don't believe in organized religion so would you prefer a disorganized one and I know that not what they mean but they said no I mean but then you you get them to think of the flip side what do you mean organized what do you want you want something that's not organized you want it to be your way whatever way you feel like yes sir sir can you pleas re reate that point I didn't he the

story of the created I didn't but he's they're saying that the Quran is not the speech of Allah it's something created by Allah and he and he's arguing with them that everything created by Allah is imperfect I mean only Allah is perfect all all his creation is imperfect and things so that means the Quran would be imperfect two everything that's created by has an end that means you're claiming the Quran will have an end that he gave the analogy the Quran died last night and they got upset like how could you say it died so

it's created and it has an end so it ended yesterday you know so uh and then he used many other arguments many many other analogies he also went into the Quran being the knowledge of Allah so then he argues with the Theif used to send him um people to debate with him so he would argue with them he tell them is the knowledge of Allah created so one of them says yes because if he says no he has to prer extend that argument to the Quran so he had to say yes so iMed tells him

you're how could you say the knowy of Allah is so the guard when when he is just a simple guard standing there he doesn't know these Scholars are debating he doesn't know really he can't follow he doesn't have enough knowledge when iMed tells the man you become a cfir so the guard gets upset he tells him this is the messenger of Theif how can you call him a CF so IM Ahmed looks at this simple guard he tells him he's saying that Allah's knowledge is created so that means that before Allah created his knowledge he

had no knowledge and how could he create his knowledge if he didn't have knowledge so he said the guard just started to give that guy the mean ey you know he started to stare the simple gu so how could you say that you know so he kept reversing these arguments giving the flip side giving the flip anyone heard the biography of IM Ahmed oh that's a small number people oh man that's a small number the biography of IM Ahmed is just unbelievably phenomenal unbelievably phenomenal you've heard it about by yeah have you heard does do

it no okay actually I actually have it it's like 6 hours but it's not produced anywhere somebody wants to take it and edit it and put it online go ahead I'll give it to you it's so phenomenal it's so so so phenomenal it's so detailed it's heartbreaking you laugh you cry you everything it's just phenomenal and what a hero what a man and you and you love him because you see he was afraid at times but he encouraged himself and start cuz you know what the scholars the historian and Scholars say that Allah saved this

religion with on the day of anded on the day of the or the of the creation of the Quran why abak and why are these the two greatest stances in in Islamic history according to Scholars because there are many times when like the moment go the ter invaded the Muslims and they destroyed the libraries and so on but Islam itself wasn't under any threat of changing you know just Muslims were under the threat but Islam was still okay the religion but at the time of Abu Bakr he stayed steadfast and he preserved Islam from they

said if he if Abu Bakr didn't stand steadfast today we would have an Islam without zaka and if Ahmed didn't stand steadfast today we would have uh in Islam where the Quran was was created and not the speech of Allah and then the oh the arguments that he used were so phenomenal and every time he will stump them they will add more chains and Bricks to his chains and and then they would beat him then they would trample him they would put something on top and they'll all walk over him and they would knock him

out and he's a thin frail man but he's just and see in the beginning I know I'm getting into that it's just beautiful you the beginning there were a lot of Scholars that were on his side then they were threatened with jail threatened with the swords only nine remained then they were threatened again only the seven of the nine said we'll say what you want us to say only two remained iMed and a young man named Muhammad just this young man just these two people said send them to me he says I'm just going to

kill them so a man came in crying said Theif has got this sword he pulled it out and he's going to kill ahed prayed two raised his hands up and he made Dua he said when he put his hands down he heard some screams had passed away anyways such a phenomenal story I hope you read it that was a preview know coming soon uh anyways where are we we're talking about the flip side so you see you flip the argument around flip the argument I did it with the beard gut right why do Muslims grow

their beard basically and nice told him why do you shave you know uh like there was a speech being given by a Muslim speaker at University a woman came in all angry and yelling non-muslim woman pointing at the sister's section why are they covered like that so he tells her well I mean you were born unclothed why are you covered now so she said modesty he said well modesty more modesty you cover yourself for modesty means the more you cover yourself the more modest you are using the flip side of the argument and and don't

really use this but it's the flip side of the argument if someone tells you uh you know like a woman argues you know these women are covered and so on and and they're not liberated the argument is that the more uncovered you are the more liberated you are and you could argue but don't do it you could argue well I see that you're still not fully liberated at the moment why don't you liberate yourself from more so but you know it's using the flip side the argument if covered is is oppressed and uncovered is liberated

well just be 100% liberated then um of course don't use the argument you know uh sometimes people try to use a fact or a statistic the wrong just like we saw they tell you yeah you know you know some some zebras are gay so suppose that was a real fact would that mean that we should be like that no sometimes to tell you something he's natural you know like there was this atheist guy with me at work and again don't do this I'm just showing you the guy who's being very aggressive so I just came

to something of equal measure where he said and I'll get to you sister I see you so the he was arguing aggressively just really hates Allah hates Islam and he thinks he's so upon the truth you know so he was saying that you know uh he was talking about you know women flaunting their sexuality and and just like that and I kept telling him that it's not appropriate and he was saying it's a natural thing so his argument was that it's natural and then my counter argument is that not everything that's natural should be done

publicly and people argue a lot of times they tell you it's natural to be like this or that's a natural feeling that I have yeah it's natural do you do everything natural out publicly and you talk about it publicly so I told him okay so I actually told him and because of the situation and the level of aggression so I said I mean it's natural to have a bowel movement so stand on the table right now and pull down your pants and have a bowel movement on the table and and he was stumped immediately like

because it's natural but you don't do it like that so don't tell me it's natural to have urges and therefore and just like these people who argue with music they tell you it's natural to like music a child who listen to music he'll start jumping up and down it's natural yeah well every teenager has urges that's natural also it's not like they they bought it from a store it's a natural urge but does it mean it makes it okay some people try to argue if it's natural that means it's if it naturally happens to you

that means it's Hal no so you counter it like that so sometimes they use the logic but in the wrong place and uh there many other things that are natural but you don't do publicly or you don't even talk about them publicly but we've got like 10 minutes left right um in in 10 minutes left let's talk about a quantifying arguments okay that's another technique you get them to not arguments but statements get them to quantify their statement some okay so let me someone tells you you ask someone you know you think about Islam you

like to become Muslim he tells you no cuz I'm actually very happy being Christian someone says that to you where do you go from there huh where do you go from there go wherever you want to go you're the what do you mean by uhhuh someone else that's it that Ahmed just said where'd you get that from good excellent yeah very good what do you mean by happy you can't he actually answered it he answered it you have another question let me finish this point and I forgot about you sister I'm sorry I'll come back

to you but look if someone tells you I'm satisfied being a Christian I'm happy being Christian you can't argue this statement at all you can't argue the fact that he's happy what are you going to say don't be happy I don't want you to be happy or let me make you happier you can't argue about happy you know you can't argue happy you can't argue satisfied you know lawyers use this thing any lawyers in the audience what are you people studying here huh you study law bu what you put your hand up then you study

no I told okay okay so um yeah they use this technique well someone says yeah I was a hard work so they can't tackle the fact that you're a hard worker so they get you to quantify what hard means so uh let me say did you work uh you know 8 to 8 to 9 or what is it 9 to five yeah so yeah and did you work Mondays through Fridays yeah did you take some Fridays off yeah every other week I took Fridays off do you take Saturday and Sunday off yes I took Saturday

so basically you basically worked Monday through Thursday and then the next week Monday through Friday yes okay so they Quantified it so when someone tells you I'm satisfied being Christian don't tackle the fact that he's satisfied get him to Define what makes them satisfied so look at this scenario here someone tells you I'm satisfied being Christian now instead of saying don't be satisfied I'll make you more S no just say okay what makes you satisfied what gives you this feeling of satisfaction because you're Christian he will example he will say well it's the reason is

that uh I'm satisfied because Jesus died for my sins you have something to work with now listen to me listen to me don't just put your hand up listen do you have something to work with now yes now you can work with the fact that Jesus died for your sins I have something to to work at and to tackle and to analyze but I can't tackle the fact that he's happy I can tell him what makes you happy being a Christian and he could say well it's the fact that XXX and now you can tackle

that that point you can't tackle the fact that he's happy get him to explain what makes him happy get him to explain what makes him satisfied you know things of that s so that's how you quantify an argument if something doesn't make sense and you don't know what that means always ask for an explanation and then get to the root of what makes them feel a certain way okay sister just your modesty sometimes when talk to they they ask why is it they feel like why is Theus on women okay okay you guys get the

question now how do you answer that supp H are supposed to be yeah yeah that's true men are supposed to be modest but there are more regulations on the women why so why more on the women characters gr them differently and he made for the most part sometimes these laws don't apply now because people have become strange but he made for the most part that the the beauty of the woman is in her appearance and she the woman will yeah will create be a FNA or a Temptation for the man when he sees her the

F of the woman is when the man sees her and that's why Allah made her cover up herself so she does not become like just an object and so on and so forth but uh the women are not as effective by as affected by attractive men as a as men are attracted to okay so the problem with this thing this was an old argument but the problem with it now is that and this was you know something weird that we discovered that uh you know the scholars of old used to say that one woman can

t be a Temptation for 100 men but a 100 men couldn't be a Temptation for one woman that's what they used to say back then and it was true but now you know you hear this stuff about you know you know it's changed now let me just say that it's changed I don't know if I want to even get into this stuff there was there's a Masjid in one area I won't say where where uh one brother his wife told him that the sisters u in the Salah they're excited about sujud time oh I mean

I was shocked when I it was very difficult to make Su in that place from that point on I you wouldn't expect that because we used to argue that you know women are not attracted to them by looking at the man and that's why they're lowering the Gaze is harder upon the man it's more obligated on the man than the woman but of course the rule is that if the woman is is excited by looking at the man then she has to lower her gaze if a man is excited by looking at the woman he

lowers his gaze if a man is excited by looking in anything he lowers his gaze from it and if you have a vase in your house that's shaped like this and that vase excites you don't look at it that's really the rule I'm serious I understand that that brother has serious issues but that's the rule the scholars even mentioned that if if a man is is if he sees a young boy that makes him don't look at the young boy you know the guy sees a zebra and he doesn't don't zebra whatever it is don't

look at it that's the rule I'm serious so anyways but the point is that the the chance of the woman being a bigger FNA physically is greater so that and then so Allah put her beauty also physically and that creates a huge FNA it can you know 10 million men now can become from looking at one woman that's why the obligation is stronger on woman to cover cover because as the brother said her but in a different physically and so on and so forth uh and so um so just uh try to go I know

there was kind of scattered argument but let try to go somewhere along those lines of explaining why there's more of an obligation to cover that's why also you find sometimes like the Hadith where the Prophet says that a woman you know she does her five prayers she fasts her months she OB her husband she guards her private parts she go to paradise from any of the gates that she wants to now you you look at and then sometimes sisters object oh what you know why is the when you explain that why did mentioned the woman

guarding her privates more so because the scholars explained that that she she is the what the word yeah she's the one that will determine if that happens or not and if the woman says no Then no no sin will happen and so the sister put well the man is also invol yes I understand that but the go-ahead the green light or the red light comes from from the woman and so that's why she was given that honor that if she protects her private part she could enter Paradise from any of the the Gat that she

want so we have to look at it from in Islam this is really beautiful they tell you that the scholar say that if you if you consider two two things that are different if you treat them exactly equally that's Injustice if you have two things that are different and you treat them exactly equally in every aspect that's Injustice true or false right and if men are different from women we have to treat there has to be different treatment if I say okay this sister treat her just like she was a man you know then I'm

being unfair here sure on a human level this is a one Soul this is one Soul it's not this is one third and this is a full human being no on a human level exactly yes equal but when it comes to other things they're different so you have to treat them differently and that's why the sh has made different rulings for women when it comes to this and different rulings for them in in Ramadan in in child birth because there's a difference between them don't accept this argument that well the man can do this the

woman can't do that and this is part of the problem with the radical feminist movement not the feminist movement the radical feminist movement they argue the man did why can men do this and we don't do that their goal in life is to be just like the man so if the man is a boxer we have to box if he drives a you know 18 wheeler we have to drive 18 wheelers if he's a firefighter we have to be firefighters if whatever the man does that's what we aspire to become and this is not the

the goal that Allah put for women that they just want to be exactly like the man who said that the end result is to be like a man the opposite curse the women who resemble men The Men Who resemble women because each one is different so that that's why because of the difference of women because of how Allah created them there'll be more of an obligation upon them to cover up than upon the upon the men right anyway uh I don't think there's time I think it's actually 1:00 we have to stop we reconvene at

1:30 2 230 oh yeah hour and a