the belief in the institutions is that one of the lowest levels in the history of this country um you know certainly since Gallup has been doing polls they don't they don't trust the universities they don't trust the media they don't trust the presidency they don't trust the Congress and they don't trust big business um I mean that's and and now they're increasingly skeptical of Education um this whole business where we're trying to create um sort of standards in education that are that have to follow the party line if you will that's very very painful I
mean I I'm very proud that uh Chapman is one of the schools that I think is to a large extent stood up against that but you know it's a terrible tide and and you know when the older the older teachers are gone and the younger ones who've been brought up in the system inherited it will be a little bit difficult