Duncan Trussell Explains Ritual Magick to Joe Rogan

haha the Joe Rogan experience when you say studies magic what do you mean by that so well he wrote a great book called high magic which is I think that's what's called it's a fantastic book on magic is really the wrong word for there's a entire like mythos or religion that got sort of wiped out by Terence Mckenna talks about it a lot I kind of wiped out by I get you know superstition so witchcraft is we understand it now because of Hollywood is like you know ladies riding around on brooms and [ __ ]

but it just used to be midwifery it used to be like healing women who would like to liver babies and stuff really and but these these were all connected to they're all a pagan roots and and so essentially you you can follow back this branch of data that some people say started in Sumeria or Egypt ways of meditating ways of connecting with the universe that are ritualistic in nature but seem mysterious to us because even though like if you want to see what it looks like just look at a Catholic Mass you're looking at a

ceremony it's fear gee I guess you'd call it that is a magical ceremony where bread gets converted into the flesh of a God that you eat so that's a your watch they're all wearing robes they're burning incense so that is magic that's what ceremonial magic looks like it's nondifferent from ceremonial magic someone in the Catholic Church might tell you this isn't magic this is me praying to the infinite and asking for forgiveness that's magic you're connecting with a divine intelligence you're hoping from your connection with the divine intelligence to produce some change in your own

psychology in your own life and maybe create good fortune or whatever it is you're praying for healing whatever it may be that's magic so magic is that and that it's I'm not saying the catholic catholicism wouldn't necessarily be considered a branch of magic I mean one of the things he said in this interview is like if the Bible is one of the most powerful magical grimoires there is I mean you read that [ __ ] if you really look in it there's all kinds of bizarre stuff that doesn't seem to make it onto a Christian

radio look what well like when in the book of Genesis it's why are they saying why do they refer to themselves as a plurality when God's talking it's not like if when they're saying like why do we throw Adam and Eve out of the garden it's we if we don't do something about this they will become like us we there's a plurality that's being mentioned there hmm and so what is that plurality so throughout the Bible there's mentions of angels The Book of Ezekiel the famous one that UF ologists go to hmm is there's all

these contacts with angels a hyperdimensional beings that have some data set they want to bring to the world quite often depending on what book you're in at some terrifying prophecy about the end of the world that's coming but sometimes it's you know some message of hope or some message of healing so you could say magic is a non-christian oriented method for connecting with those various entities using ritual that's one branch of it now I'm not saying by the way these beings exist or don't exist but you could say if you wanted to get like psychologically

you could say we have buried inside of us bit archetypes bits of the collective that are buried deep inside of us and that there are ways to connect to these little fragments of the collective mind and you know many people know have their own method for doing that one of the methods to do that might be doing a ritual and for a moment allowing yourself to imagine that you're trying to talk to an extra dimensional being Aleister Crowley famously did one of these rituals and contacted a god what was I can't remember the being was

called but it looks like a gray alien this is before people were talking about gray aliens who you've looked at it's raw he's always a drawing of it yeah and it looks like a gray alien it's what year was this it's like the 1800s Aleister Crowley was in the 1800s yeah 1890 pulling at your ghillie suit you remind me of a drunk overweight girl with large breasts it keeps adjusting the halter top [ __ ] I told them what with a cigarette in a hand Wow look at that drawing by Aleister Crowley yeah that doesn't

your grey alien yeah man and he lied so we're gonna look like man let's cut the [ __ ] right that's we're gonna look like right when you when you see people that are hairy and and and brutish you we think of them as being like closer to prehistoric man right yeah I see a guy covered in hair he looks more like a beast yeah and when we see people that are thinner and more slender they become more more a gentle version of people and we associate that oftentimes of intelligence we associate directly associated intelligence

with frailty right we all do that when you see some some super genius guy usually they're frail occasionally they're badasses but there's a lot of those super genius guys that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag right well Hawking's the ultimate example because his body literally failed him yeah while he was coming up with his greatest discoveries yeah so this is this our future never big heads we're gonna [ __ ] CRISPR your way into a head that lets you live in any dimension you want at any time you transport yourself from

one planet to the other we imagine what we've done with our stupid monkey brains now imagine it was a hundred and fifty percent larger a hundred and fifty percent more brain and then incorporated all sorts of [ __ ] electronics so let's you interface with space-time around you and all kinds other wacky ways of communicating we couldn't even possibly imagine now just like people from the eighteen hundreds couldn't have ever possibly imagined cellphones right and this is the idea is like okay we're gonna go there and then when we get there the way we understand

space time is going to be different than the way we understand it now yeah so what that means is theoretically you could connect or communicate with a being that is outside of space-time which is a future version of us right now using like various methods DMT being one of the big ones on the planet right now but also using other methods that they're a little bit more precise because with DMT it's kind of like you're not really putting in GPS coordinates necessarily some people do it with intention like a shaman will do it like with

intention and can like you know excuse me can you give me another Bloody Mary I told you Clarence I'll [ __ ] leave you cigarette in your hand flip-flops on I will [ __ ] leave yeah Clarence is over there Miller Lite you ain't going nowhere just stop just [ __ ] stop you always do this she gets drunk says she's leaving imma [ __ ] [ __ ] leave you son of a [ __ ] I'm putting on my ghillie suit and going down to Tampa you son of a [ __ ] I'm gonna

visit my family and Clearwater I'm out of here Clarence it's over anyway yeah maybe you can connect through time and space to these things that are already here like our understanding of time and space we're locked in man but like so magic is like ridiculous on one level as it absolutely sounds and is on one level on another level is at the very least a creative technique so that you can sort of summon a dream state while you're awake with the intent of causing some change in the world around you using for a lot of

people would be considered a non-standard way well just in terms of your perception of how you view the world you can alter that pretty radically I mean from someone who has an amazingly positive perception versus someone has an amazingly negative perception you look at the results right over overwhelming benefit of being a positive person overwhelming there's something to thoughts and ideas that propel you in a good way and for having a good architecture forget having a good philosophy having a good operating manual for how you view the world and how you act and behave part

of that so you getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning that's what that is you're like enforcing your ability to sort of dictate the positive aspects of your future you're you're deciding to take action you're strengthening your bond with the with the way you interface with current reality and I was doing it rich I mean not rich they closed up what the [ __ ] out Christmas mmm God listen man if you want to meet me here I'll meet you here we could do some 5 a.m. sessions I love that man I mean yeah

I would love let's do it I'm 100% down yeah come down here we'll get pump will put Slayer on and [ __ ] rock [Applause]