Here's the thing. I don't just see that I don't see this in one occupation. I see this across occupational boards.
Like for instance, women are often HR departments and they usually make things 200,000 times worse for everybody because they're in HR departments and it's just awful. They're just awful at HR departments. Well, why are women in HR departments?
Cuz normal, like I think that kind of goes back to like the systemic change. We're in HR. That's all we can do, right?
Yeah. Hang on. I'll explain I'll explain why.
I'll explain why. in HR departments, um, they're problematic, especially when it comes to men. So, HR Yeah.
Yeah. That's I'm I'm going to tell you this is true. When you go to a human resources department, they have psychological training courses that they often go through.
And during the psychological training courses, they're taught to use a specific tone which is designed around the feminine, just like in school. In schools, men are disadvantaged. Boys are disadvantaged because it's usually a feminine curriculum.
And that's why women excel in school. Men don't. They have a feminine curriculum.
This idea of like sit at the table, have your hands folded, listen quietly while the teacher's teaching. Men don't do that [ __ ] They want to throw stuff at each other and be obnoxious. They want to throw stuff.
I know. I'll push back on that though. There's plenty of men who do great in school though.
We used to see that a lot more. Women women excel in comparison because of the the rules which are there, right? So for instance, um when I was younger, you got into a fist fight, it was not it was maybe suspendable.
It was not a police arrest you and you go to jail. Sure. If I came home with a black eye and bloody nose, I lost.
That's all that that meant. Or unless he had more bruises or something, then you could that you could have won on that one. Yeah.
But even but the point is is like nobody gave a [ __ ] It wasn't like, "Oh my god, these kids, they started knocking each other around. Oh my god, the cops. " Well, I think once there was more shootings and it wasn't there was there was a massive amount of gang violence inside schools before any of that like mass stuff started happening, right?
But still men, especially young men learn differently than women, but because they're inside of like a very feminine zone, they actually can't excel the same way they do in like all boys schools and things like this where they excel much better. Um, what's interesting is is in HR department since they're always inundated with women, right? It's always from the feminine perspective, too.
So, men, let me tell you some things that men hate. Can we have a little conversation? Every man who hears that does this.
Oh, God. Can you just come down and lightning Zeus, lightning bolt me through the [ __ ] chest. Please do that so I don't have to go in to this room.
I think women have that, too. I don't want to hear any of that with this [ __ ] insufferable. Can we have a talk?
Oh, as a more masculine presenting. Or how about how about how about this one as a woman? I agree.
We don't We hate that [ __ ] So, what we're going to do here is a little bit of coaching. We're going to do a little bit of coaching. I don't talk like that.
I'm Or how about we're going to You know, we I'm just here to assist you with some of the problems that we've been seeing you having. And they have their little like [ __ ] stupid post-it notes and [ __ ] Every guy on planet Earth, right? Even the most like cringe dude, thinks of the second they hear that, all they can think of in their head is this.
And this is what's on repeat, right? Now, you can believe me or not believe me, but this is what's on repeat. Shut up, [ __ ] Shut up, [ __ ] Shut up, [ __ ] Shut up, [ __ ] Please shut up, [ __ ] Please shut up.
That's all they're thinking on repeat. Now, me saying that out loud to a group of women, you think you think even right now, man, that's harsh. That's actually kind of harsh.
But it's like that's actually how we think about it. Just like please can this end? How quickly can this end?
But do you think that that's why that tone is being made? Because a confrontation cuz I feel like men can only hold it in before they go they lose it, you know? And so it's like they have to take a softer tone almost like I don't want to say speaking to a child but just being softer to create this open.
No, no. See I think that that misses the whole point and that's the feminine prism too, right? They don't actually give a [ __ ] What they really want to say to you is like everything that you're about to tell me, I don't give a [ __ ] about any of it.
I don't care. It means nothing to me. I'm only trying to get through this meeting as far as I can to keep this job.
But everything coming out of your mouth, I literally don't give a [ __ ] about. That's what they actually are thinking in their brains. I think women in that in that circumstance are also thinking the same thing.
Hold on, hold on. Uh going to you uh you are not enjoying what Andrew is saying. It's true.
Oh my god. Uh what are your what are your thoughts? The reason why she doesn't date America.
Oh, I was thinking why you could make such conclusions like without giving any examples like you need to like support your own opinions which but even his examples would be so if you're asking for like data for these examples right now this is an anecdotal conversation. Yeah. So I I preface this conversation by saying this is based on the pattern recognition experiences that I've seen.
Yeah. not preferencing it on like oh I have a massive data packet here that's sociological in nature and probably will never be replicated in order to uh show my findings that this is what men think but based on all the conversations that I've had with men and I've had thousands of them all AC across the world say thing with women this is what they think sure but there will be something called confirmation bias in this as well too yeah the thing is though it's like I think pattern recognition assists with eliminating confirmation bias that's what it's there for the confirmation bias is there because you wouldn't be able to assess your own like patterns and your own confirmation bias in it or awareness of it if you understand what I'm saying with that one. Sorry, I don't want to take a conversation.
Well, you're good. But let's let's just talk about it from the ideological. You can hold ideologies which are false based on confirmation bias like you're talking about.
Many people do until they are moved into a position where their ideology is tested and doesn't fit with the pattern. Then they enter cognitive dissonance because their confirmation confirmation by a shatter is based on new pattern recognition. You hope but actually doesn't happen unless they're like forced to recognize it and forced to face the information.
Now what we see in dating is confirmation bias is huge. If you have a belief system that all women, all men are [ __ ] or nothing or all women are toxic, I'm sorry, but if you put if you put someone in a room full of quality people or nice people, they'll they'll make it up in their head. You will make it up in your head.
You will actually physically hear it differently and you will repeat it back differently. You can ask someone with confirmation. I would never say that the idea of like all women are [ __ ] No, no, I was giving an example that you I know you didn't say that.
Like in these monolithic tones, but I do think but we generalize that. Yeah, of course we generalize. But that's part of pattern recognition is generalization.
And that's what but that's a good one to recognize. I'm generalizing. So my pattern is is that I'm I'm generalizing and I'm seeing these people and I'm putting them izing based on patterns.
So I would just say like for instance uh I don't get in very many car accidents so I think driving is pretty safe for me. That would be a pattern that I would recognize. Right.
But if you were to see the but if I were to well how about just I were to be moved to a large city where there was massive traffic congestion and now suddenly I'm driving a lot more and I'm getting into more accidents. I might enter into like oh [ __ ] my preassion about driving being safe is actually driving is only safe under these circumstances. if that happened.
But you could also go to that big city and suddenly only drive like, you know, 2 p. m. when there's no traffic.
So you could absolutely still hold that belief system to do, right? But that makes my point for me that the ideology unless presented with new patterns is going to hold still based on pattern recognition. Yeah.
Based on pattern, but that's why it's on the individual as well too. So that you said like women are like less um like not not available but reliable for like advice and stuff. Like for me it's much different like growing up in the south like my mom and my grandmother and my aunties like those powerful women were the ones leading the family like giving advice cooking all the meals and like I couldn't really name maybe like one or two males that really had a dramatic impact on my life where I would say like oh yeah like like well I need you to remember this though that I didn't actually say who was more available for advice.
No, that that was a bad that was bad. What I said was who has better ones I would actually go to. For me, it wouldn't be a man because I actually said women are more available more available for advice like depends on the subject.
I think it depends on what you're asking them advice on because women would be experts on makeup for example like stereotypically raising kids. You know, here's the thing. Why would a guy go to a girl for advice on makeup?
We can answer that. We're in LA. Give me an example like women are but I mean let's actually let's actually dive into like the examples right so the example of like makeup guys aren't going to go to [ __ ] women for advice on makeup they don't wear like when women go to other women for advice it's on their expertise what what would men be going to women for advice for how to get women that's about it well when you think about it like let's break it down a woman there's not actually that much for men to go to women for advice on so if they wanted to talk to very wealthy people.
Plenty of men who are very wealthy, usually more wealthy than women. If it was going to come down to an occupational like skills, there's no way women are going to get better advice on electrical, roofing, you know, concrete mixing. It depends.
Just like makeup wasn't depend for advice on on mixing concrete. Come on. Well, some women would be better at sales specifically.
Sales. It depends. Yeah.
Yeah. But but here's the thing. Even then, right?
Wouldn't you, if you were a man, go, "Okay, well, there's some disadvantages I have immediately. Like, I don't have boobs and I'm not cute and I don't have this and I don't have that. " You're going to go to who for the best advice on how to sell [ __ ] as a man?
Men, I think you're going to go with Yeah. someone that looks like you that that way you're like, "How do you do what you do? " That part I agree with.
Advice for women on if they're the person you're trying to sell to. You get advice on being better at sales through that. That would be market research.
Yeah. Except the most successful marketers on planet Earth were men, but they probably got the entire planet to smoke and they got the entire planet to do all of these other things which are This isn't the greatest argument right now. Well, actually well actually imagine all the bad but you said good advice.
Well, you that Well, imagine that you can actually get through crafted um through like crafted propaganda the whole population to smoke. that was men who were able to at least craft that propaganda worked for men and women. Yeah.
So it's like and they weren't like and by the way that was like the most misogynistic society ever. They weren't I think that's the what she said was that men were the first ones who can get in that role. And I think that so they have you know they're a step ahead of women.
That's what's changing like now like I'm an executive chef when you wouldn't really see executive chefs in a female role. Like now you my fiance is a pilot. Like women are terrible at marketing.
Let me give you some ad. Let me give you a massive example. Do you remember Bud Light?
Bud Light had a massive controversy where they put where they put Mulaney on a Bud Light beer can, right? And then lost the entire market share of Bud Light. Spearheaded by a woman, right?
Spearheaded by a woman trying to sell this beer. Not because she understood Dylan a woman. What's that?
Well, that depends on because I know a little bit about your background that I I'm assuming you don't see Dylan Mulaney as a woman. Yeah, I see the woman in charge of the marketing campaign as a woman. Okay.
The woman in charge of the marketing campaign had a vagina is definitely a woman by any criteria I could think of. Okay. I didn't know if you were talking about Dylan specifically or if your opinion suggest No, the person who put Dylan on the can.
Okay. That was a female in charge of that. Completely [ __ ] it all up.
Right. There's multiple marketing campaigns actually I can point to that women spearheaded that they [ __ ] up because they don't take in the male element they take in the female element that was a campaign I think that that's something to learn for sure I'm sure we can point to men failures as well too like you know what I mean on marketing but there was a study that did come out and I can't remember the guy's name so I haven't gotten to say it um but he just uh there's studies that have come out and we can debate it or whatever but um apparently women make excellent CEOs and better CEOs. No, they don't.
That's not That's on There's data on that one. No, but Well, here's the thing. You can look on that one.
I Someone else can. There's also data. There's also data on this.
There's also data that says that if you have corporations that do diversity hires, they actually do better than corporations that don't. That was a study that came out that I was just debating the other day till I came into the debate with all of the modern reputations to the study based on, of course, the new evidence which emerged when they went back to replicate that study. Turns out those companies were already doing great.
They just had so much money. They were able to start playing Costco. There was tons.
There was a bunch of Fortune 500 S&Ps. They just had so much money that they were able to start playing around with this model. It wasn't that that model made them rich.
They were already [ __ ] rich. They just had enough money that they start playing with the model. What's the term for that?
That's uh Damn, I'm blinking on. No, no, no. You know when like something looks like it's coming from this.
There we go. Correlation. It's a correlation, not a causation.
Correct. Exactly. Yeah, they actually said like they took a coralate.
They took a coralate and then asked pretended it was causation when it wasn't to affirm a bias. So the thing is is like anytime I look at this stuff, right, I realize that when it whenever it's led by empathy first, which women usually lead their morality by empathy first, it's usually a massive failure. It's usually a massive failure.
I I hope that they mix both. I think that we can learn from both men and women. I agree because I think that if a woman's just coming in and she's only looking in the empathy, then yeah, absolutely, you're losing it.
But if a guy is coming in and he's only looking at one thing as well too, I think that, you know, yeah, if you open yourself up and think about different things and new ways of attacking, I wouldn't dispute that. I wouldn't dispute the idea that there's going to be some So, I wouldn't monolith anything. I wouldn't say anything's always an all of anything.
But if we look at general trends, what we see is that women lead with empathy first, right? Men tend to lead with reason first. Yeah.
When I coach differently, like if I coach women, I have to get them to like stop with feeling stuff. It's I just need you forward motion. But with men, I need them stop forward motion because you're making mistakes and not assessing.
So I need you intuitive. So men can listen to your gut. You've done it and you and you've said it.
You can you right now could look look at someone or look at someone's profile and intuitively kind of know based on logic, based on things, based on whatever, but you could know who that person is, what they're about to do or say or or what not or if they're a good person, decent person or full. I've had I've had significant but I've had significant advantages of having of of of having tons and tons of interpersonal conversations with thousands of different people all over the place. Right?
So it helps your intuition. I have significant advantages that the general public would not have when it came to to understanding what people are saying, why they're saying it, what type of worldview they're leading from. Yeah.
Most people don't have that. No. And because they don't, right, it's easy enough for me to just say, "Look, generally women do lead with empathy.
" And generally men do lead with reason. If that's the case, right, who the [ __ ] would you want in charge of every situation? Probably the sex.
I want the person with either one that's unlocked both. So for a man, if he's got intuition, what advantage does empathy give you over reason? Intuition.
Think about his intuition. No, no, not intuition. That's not my question.
What advantage? Oh, yeah. Hold up.
If a man If a man has empathy, if a man has uh is able to do forward motion plus empathy, I feel like he's lethal. What what how what is what does the empathy give him in the marriage? Other things like if you're in the dating pool, a woman's going to look for a man who has empathy as well as strength EQ.
But if you have reason, couldn't she just fake the empathy? I mean, who's faking? Who's going to get married to someone who's been faking for that long?
And you can spot red flags. So, like the idea, I'll give you I'll give you this great example of this, right? And almost probably every man will do this where his woman comes to him with some stupid [ __ ] problem he doesn't give a [ __ ] about, but she does, right?
She cares about it for whatever reason, and it's literally [ __ ] meaningless. Totally meaningless. Means nothing, totally irrelevant, totally nonsensical.
Nobody on planet Earth gives a [ __ ] He's like this. He goes, "It's okay, honey. " Right now, in his mind, I'm going to tell you what he's thinking.
What he's thinking in his head is, "God, this is [ __ ] stupid. And I hope that you just stop with this [ __ ] [ __ ] in the next 20 minutes. That would be great.
I got other [ __ ] to do. I can't even believe that you're hysterical about this. This is They're faking empathy.
" Hold up. We have to do that, too. may know it's called a relationship.