Chris Bledsoe - The Episode We Never Censored | SRS #165

[Music] Chris blood so welcome to the show thank you for having me Sean I can't wait to dive into what uh we're about to talk about but um so got to give Shawn Webb credit again he has introduced me to some of the most fascinating uh people that I've ever met and um just a great human being I love Sean and uh also I was with Brandon fugle about a month ago and uh went and toured uh he gave me a Private tour of skim Walker Ranch and and uh I told him that me and

you were potentially doing an interview and he got really excited about that and and told me a little bit about what you guys were were doing out there so I'd love to touch on that but all in all Chris I'm just ecstatic uh that you made the trip and uh was able to meet your son Ryan and and uh been really excited to do this it's the same here my friend we've been So excited and uh I'm just I'm I'm honored thank you thank you all right well everybody starts with a introduction so Chris bledo

you had a lifechanging UFO experience in 2007 after the financial crisis that saved your life and cured you of your chronic illness what was that chronic illness Crohn's disease Crohn's disease yeah since then you've dedicated your life to sharing your story and how it Impacts your faith which I can't wait to dive into that you are the author of The New York Times bestseller UFO of God the extraordinary true story of Chris blood so and since then your UF you're UFO experience you've talked to CIA NASA the History Channel they've all been studying you and

your experience and from what I understand uh trying to figure out what's going on with your Consciousness yeah yeah so I uh have a lot of questions okay but Um and then we have a patreon account they've been with us since the very beginning um they're a top supporters and um without them I wouldn't be sitting here and neither would you and so one of the things that I do is I offer them an opportunity to ask each qu each each Quest each guest a question and so there's some really good ones on here um

this one is from Kathy how do you view death now since your experience is it a Soul departure or a rebirth or finality as your true being dies it's completely um to me the um the real world is the Unseen World where there's no time I think we're in some sort of Matrix here where we experience time from the the physical body right once you're born it starts decaying right after it grows and it's a cycle but the Eternal world is alive and around us and I've have um I have been Able to to experience

that and and have shared it with a lot of others this this hidden world around us there I think our loved ones are on the other side cheering for us to get through to the other side I'm stronger in my faith than I ever have been but here's a question that just came to mind on the subject talking about where we go after we die and what you think happens after we die where do you think we are before we're Born I don't know but the Bible says and I knew you before you were born

so if you're Eternal um we were we were part of God in other words we're Consciousness the word Consciousness leads back to one so you got all these people talking about Consciousness now well it just means god right so I think we're all a part of God and he breathed the life in everyone one of us and we return back to that unless we fail you know there's There's consequences so when you say Consciousness is God what exactly does that mean because all of our Consciousness is is different we don't see eye to eye on

things we have different perceptions we we view the world through different lenses and so is this a do you think ious is one big Collective I think it's like a wireless internet basically there the all the information to every living thing is is Around us in fact I've read studies from NASA and I have a couple that um that are pretty interesting where it talks about the green light that shines from the Sun the way it angles on Earth the the light is in the green Spectrum which is the color spectrum the center and in

that green light is um it affects this chemical called ADT which is in in all living things hemoglobin in a human to plant life Chlorophyll and when that light hits that chemical it creates the energy which starts life so something is telling every cell in your body what to do you're not mhm and and the grass and the trees and the bugs it's all created by um this this field of information around us and I think we're just receivers that this is how we're able to to remote view this is how you're able to to

um do a lot of that kind of stuff because we can Tap into it um this Consciousness around us just it's like a wireless network uhu so complex and you know I'm just guessing just like everybody we speculate what is real about you know even God we all speculate because we really don't know yeah right yeah were you it's a personal question but it sounds like the experience that you had in 2007 uh which we'll dive into here in just a couple Minutes it sounds like that really I don't know if it made your faith

stronger or just brought you to Faith in general but stronger strong so you were always a Christian I was um yeah my wife's p i was a deacon in the Pentecostal H inist church so I was raised um in the Baptist Church and I married my wife 42 years ago um congratulations and we're still in love and happy um and she saidou going to marry me you're going to go to The church with me you're not going to drink and all that so I agreed I was 20 years old 21 and we got married I

joined the Pentecostal church I became a deacon in the church and uh and then I ran into trouble when I had this experience with the UFO and that that created some problems for me interesting interesting yeah so did you come to Faith because of your wife you had to make a deal no no or was it always no um When I was a little boy my neighbors I lived out in the country I was born on and raised on a farm right my dad was a carpenter my I worked in debaca and hay and you

know sometimes on a dairy farm my neighbor had one but um all the kids wanted to go to the local church we we had a little 1700's church that was in the Civil War it was a hospital this old dirt driveway is still there and uh all his kids wanted to go to church cuz that's Where the only we could get together and have fun and so I was Dee rooted in the Baptist Church until I married her and I had to convert from Baptist to Pentecostal which was which is different I'd never seen speaking

in tongues and walking on the tops of the pews and shouting and all that and but that's where I ended up Pentecostal church so I'm deep rooted in my faith I know the Bible pretty good um but I see it differently now because I Have seen something that um changed my life were you into before this experience were you into UFOs or extraterrestrial life or any of that were you nothing no um back in those days I was uh I was a builder my dad I was I'm actually a commercial pilot that was my first

love was to be a pilot I swore I wasn't going to be a carpenter I wanted to be something different so my wife encouraged me when We got married to get into flying and I did I studied 12 years I actually taught weather for the for Pilots I was certified college level um so that was my life until we had the third baby and when the third baby come along I had to make a decision do I become a dad that sees my kids two days a week and um basically not a part of their

lives or do I want my children to to love their dad and so I I changed my whole career to look after my Children got into the building business along about 2001 the World Trade Center disaster happened and when that happened I was caught with 72 houses under construction we're building 100 a year 120 houses my wife had the Remax company in fville and she was uh I think her last year they closed $40 million worth of homes new and existing and but when they crashed the World Trade Center Fort Brag went on big Alert

you know that's where I live for brag I I work with this you know the soldiers this this who buys the houses mostly and I saw it all a slow motion train wreck coming because back in those days the interest rate on construction money was 89% which it is now which is terrible that's the worst thing they could do to kill the housing business which is happening right now I have friends in The building business and family that are crying about that but what happened I had $100,000 a month going out and interest and overhead

and by the time 2005 come along it had bled me of all life savings 20 years worth of work and my disease that I had been fighting since 25 years old 26 Cron's got worse and it got worse and real worse to the point that that um we sold the company I couldn't even get out of bed oh man I was that Sick and so um I'd never thought about a UFO I was too busy raising children and building all these houses and dealing with the now I'm in depression I'm sick I'm in the restroom

25 times or 20 times a day and um it it was it was I thought it was going to die from it I mean really so that's where my brain was and 2001 right on up to when it actually happened in 07 interesting yeah well before we get into the incident everybody on the show Gets a gift oh wow thank you for that hey you're welcome any guesses I love it love it the are the famous gummies that's it I love vigilance League gummy bear is made right here in the USA and still legal in

all 50 states I love it so but well Chris let's let's dive in to the incident let's dive into what happened on the Cape Fear River okay um what was what were you doing that Day well um I I'd sold the business right and there for a year there's a part there that um I it's in my book I write about this leading up to that incident I'd had this uh near-death experience in in the hospital from being overmedicated from some from c um from the the medicine they were giv me they weren't checking my

my vitals and my liver like they were supposed to and I went in to just toxic Poisoning and unconscious and so now I'm I've sold my business because of all What U the the the crash and and here I am sick really bad sick so I'm recovering from this This Disaster and I've uh so we fast forward to 06 and about October of 06 I had gotten better enough that my dad convinced me to get out and try to to work and remember I'd lost everything everything we were living in an 8,000 foot home own

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with betterhelp visit betterhelp.com SRS To get 10% off your first month that's betterhelp hp.com SRS so um I had looked after a house for for Dad for four about months late 2006 and it was it was it was finished up just before Christmas but we had a a punch list to do so we all came back and then uh right after the 1 July of the 1 I mean January the 1st they the crew went back down to the coast to to do the Punch list and I told him I'm not coming uh just bring

a check when you get done so on the the the 7 um January the 8th of that year they called me uh we had finished we got it all signed off and we got your check so I said we bring it on to the house and give it to Dad and he'll pay you and so they got their checks about 1 or 2:00 or 12:30 or 1:00 they went to town cast them and come back and called me and said hey boss let's celebrate uh Would you take us fishing and I knew what that meant

because these guys were just construction workers they uh worked with my dad for years and years but when they wanted to go fishing that meant I had the only four-wheel drive truck and where they wanted to go we had to go down in the woods to a river bottom right and this this is gnarly going down in there so I said yeah why not Chris juner was at home my wife was out of town with the other three Children and so about 2:30 in the day they came back we we loaded up the fishing gear

and took off to the river only 3 miles away so we pulled up parked and if I can give you an idea where we were um cap F River it's just it's not a big river it's only like 60 yards wide where we were and the the main road when you if you come up on a big field on the left there's a two rut road that crosses this field it's 200 yard across to the Woodline when you get to the Woodline There's a gate and it goes downhill 100 ft to the river about an

eighth of a mile and then you make a right and you end up in a CAC another eighth of a mile it's important I tell you this so you're get what what happened so we're now sitting on the River Bank parked um about 230 or4 to three and I wasn't into fishing my mind wasn't in deficient at all in fact I was struggling with everything my thoughts uh I'm broke uh how can I Support my children I'm 46 years old I have this disease this killing me uh you know Cron's disease was is a is

a terrible thing and and so that's where my brain was W these guys were excited and Chris junr they I made sure they were sitting on the bank and everything's taken care of cuz in my mind I'm going to walk away and go meditate in the forest somewhere and so once they started fishing I said I'm going to walk down in CAC to to About an acre of grassy area this round around acre is where that road dead in and then the very back of it is where I walked down in along the river to

a gully and I set beside a tree till about 4:00 and and it got very dark not letting these guys know what I was thinking right that I'm depressed and I'm thinking very bad thoughts of struggling with you know can how am I going to make it how I'm going to support my Kids and about 4 or 10 after 4: it started getting the sun going down which about 5:30 in January the sun sets right and so I made my way back out of the woods cuz the canopy had made it dark I didn't have

a flashlight I W right up to these guys and they were my son Chris Jer and these men they're grown men you know they run Crews have families and I said you guys want to fish some more you want to go home and well we just got here boss we want to Fish I said well it's going to get cold tonight let's get a fire going so we went around that acre all of us and we gathered up all the dead wood we could find and got a fire going right on the river bank and

it was about 10 after 5 now and I said we had a hen a daylight still you can see the you know this blue sky still I said I'm going to walk up to the gate and I'm going the opposite direction to the way we came in and I'm going to sit at the gate by the field And I'm going to watch for deer coyote turkey so I was born raised a hunter and I was big into hunting hunted all over the country from Montana to to Texas and shot my first deer at five years

old was shot point blank in the back with a shotgun at 10 little hole in me this big right in my shoulder here I have lid you can see on this side near that was another near death experience when I was 10 and so I left them Walking I look back and there're sitting there by the fire and I I felt like they're taking care of I'm going to keep walking so all I'm doing Sean is crying out to the Heaven Help me what do I do give me the answers I was a spiritual guy

then in the church and I'm praying as I'm going along and when I got within um here's the weird thing I I was just part of the way down parallel in the river when I heard something in the Woods beside me I thought it was a deer to start with and so I sto and I'm looking trying to look through thick brush and couldn't see anything so I walked some more and when I started walking it started walking scared me then I don't never get scared in the woods I mean I I'm in the Boon

and Crockett record book for shooting a one of the biggest black bears in this in North America back then it was one of the records 660 lbs and I shot him from 6ot away I mean that's how you know I I wasn't afraid then it was too quick to be afraid it'd come out out at me and but I got afraid something this sound started sounding like two feet and so I stopped and I got down on my knees and I looked under the brush cuz along the edges it's really thick once you get in

the woods it'll open up right CU of the tree Canopy never could see what that was three times it it had me to stop and to get down to see what was was that tracking me so when I got to the curve or to the to the to the point where the road turned West and started up the hill the sound stopped and I'm looking up uh at a sky that I thought the sun was still about the top of the trees or so on but I couldn't tell because I'm looking uphill at at a

metal gate cattle Gate at the top of that Hill it's a long Hall up there about 100 ft to go up and it's ruts muddy ruts and grass you know some plac is knee high so I'm having to watch every step and it's starting to get dark and the closer I got to the top of that Hill I'm not hearing this in the woods beside me now and I wanted to tell you that because it'll come back in the picture here in a second I got about 30 ft from the top of that hill and

I began to see what what I Thought was the Sun the top of it just the very top of it and I walked over the horizon yeah over just you know I got a gate I'm looking up at a gate a metal gate the road goes up and I can see the sun just barely above that gate and the top of the trees which I for the first when I first glanced it I didn't think much about it I looked down to take another step because I didn't want to walk in the mud and about

three more steps up that Hill there it was in full View and it was this Blood Red tangerine orange ball of fire about 40 or 50 feet around and I was like oh my God what is that I could see the Flames going around it and the tips were shooting off this thing's huge like big and it's only 300 yard away it's just beyond the road and just at the top of the trees and sitting there it kind of frightened me a second but I curious I walked up two more steps and When I did

now my my field of views gotten wider because I don't have the Trees of the road you know I'm looking up to shoot now I can see more and there's a second one right beside it and that's when chills came over me so you want I couldn't explain it I dropped to my knees because by doing that I'm using the heel to hide from them so IID raised my head up and I could see they were there and I'm sitting here on the ground thinking what in the world is this I Knew it wasn't nothing

from this world or from the military you know I'm trained in in in that um fact I have military manuals that were given to me for you know they used to get you to train on different types of aircraft from russan to so that's been my world of Aviation so automatically knew what I'm looking at wasn't a helicopter it wasn't something of ours so I'm hiding there and I crawl Over to the ditch into these reads you know um reads or grow wetlands and so I'm peeking through these reads thinking I'm hiding from what I'm

seeing not realizing they'd see me and I start making my decision to run I got to run because I'm thinking about Chris Junior back behind me down the hill that I've gotten frightened I sit there long enough that it it really frightened me bad so I made a plan to run and I turn My body I'm sitting on the ground on my knee's hiding right so I raise up and I turn my body to run I'm in the motion to run and I'll look back one more time I got to see what's up there and

when I did straight above me the third one appeared and went shot right down beside the other two and I knew then I knew it saw me I knew I was on its radar and that's a different feeling you know somebody can see a ball of light fly by oh my God I saw a UFO and that does Something to you but when you see it and it responds to you and it's the way that did I knew it I felt like a rat a lab rat or or I was you know I'm in trouble

so I last the next thing I know I'm about 50 yards from the fire and I'm kind of walking through this mud and I have no recollection of what happened coming down that Hill I only could remember the last 50 yards of it going up to the fire he's three men are standing there Around the fire they're no longer fishing fires burned down to this is little small fire and they're looking down talking they couldn't see me coming cuz I didn't have a flashlight I'm coming out of the dark I can see them from the

fire and I snuck up on them and I said hey guys you won't believe what just happened and the first thing one said where in they and I'm not going to use the now the words they use but where Have you been I said I was just up at the hill what do you mean I told you I was going up to the field they said you've been going all night I said no I haven't I've been going 20 minutes and we're arguing this and I noticed Chris Junior's not there and I told him you

won't believe what I just saw up top of that Hill these three balls of fire then immediately where's Chris junor well he went looking for you two hours ago and we can't find him now he walked into the CAC and to the far end of the CAC where you had gone earlier that day searching for you and I panicked oh my God these Woods are huge you know 60 miles to to wimington from where we are and nothing but Forest along that River and all I could think is he's lost in there 17 years old

no flashlight and um they're telling me that one stayed at the fire while the other two took my truck and they even pointed out my truck had been moved from Where I parked it he said we've been everywhere looking for you all night and uh so I immediately took off running to the back of that CAC shouting for junior I was worried about what happened to me up there I was freaked right and and here's my son missing and I started making my way into the woods and around the edges of any field especially where

we live it it's real thick because it's just Shrubbery right same and so I'm parting this stuff And I'm calling out for Chris junor and I get about 10 ft in there and I hear he wasn't answering me until I walked right up almost stepped on him and he come up out of these bushes and he grab me and he's and he's weeping this is your son yeah it's um it's traumatic because of the struggle he had and it won't because of that so much it was after right it was a lot of trouble after

That that he went through um and we'll talk more about that in a second but you know to see your son in shock eyes like this shaking so he's like why did you leave me what was your initial thought I saw your son like that what did you think Happ I was freaking out uh I didn't want to tell him what had happened to me cuz he's talking out of his he's he's saying things like these creatures dad these creatures why did you leave me why did You leave me I said I didn't leave you

son I've been gone for 20 minutes he's no Daddy you've been gone all night and how old was he at the time 17 she a baby you know they're babies at that age and uh and so he began to tell me uh I grabbed him all he wanted to do is go home he wanted to go home he want no more what happened to him and so what he happened was where he was at the back of that cold of sack he Could see all the way down parallel the river to the end where I

made to turn and started up the hill so it's a quarter mile he could see all the way down and he's over there in the edge of the forest calling out for me while they're driving the truck one guy sitting at the fire and the fire is between you know he's got to walk toward the you know toward what he saw coming to get to the fire so he sees these two red Lights across the road and he thought there were flashlights like military they used to I used to have a military flashlight that had

a red on it right and you remember those and so that was his first thought there were there were somebody's walking with the red flashlight so they cross the road over to the Riverside disappear so he takes off and he runs back to the fire and he tells these guys about these two lights he Saw and then he turns and he goes back to the back of that cack still calling from me and um about that time these two red lights come back out of the Riverside back out in the road and they start towards

them now these SE two balls of light they look like this big and they're floating 3 feet off the ground coming all the way down that road and as they got closer to him he got scared and he started hiding So he laid down on his stomach and crawled up under backed up under them thickest rubs and they came up within 20 ft of them and what he saw were these two little glowing beings that were yeah High probably three 2 and 1 half 3 feet tall and they had these right red eyes and the

whole time one was staring at him he couldn't shout he couldn't move he he was in such Terror he was frozen and I don't know if they had the power to keep him from he thought that They had that power over him as long as they were looking at him he couldn't speak so he was gone a total of two hours and he I don't know how long exactly he was there with these these little beings walking around him but it really it put and Sh and so I led him back to the fire and

these guys were freaked out too because they had heard that you know what happened they didn't know what happened they knew that I'd been gone all night And Junior's talking about creatures and I'm talking about Balls of Fire at the top of the hill so these men starting to get spooked real bad and one of the guys looks up and points oh look at that and when we all look up and it looked like the brightest star Venus in the night sky when it's just the brightest it was eight or nine of these just appeared

and they just came on and they went out away from one another and they came back in a circle and they made This big circle and they were putting on a shove and then three of these things came all the way down and landed across the river 60 yards to the other side of that River they were up on the other side of it in a cut down it remembered the place out so you can imagine pandemonium set in at that moment we left out of there with fishing poles still there coolers everything we brought

we didn't even wait to to touch It and we jumped in that truck and I'm taking off up through this muddy Road and one of the guys is beating on the back of my seat saying go go go and there's this red ball of light coming up behind us following the truck so undoubtedly it came out of the back of that CAC was still in there and was coming up behind the truck they were screaming to the top of their lungs but the weird thing is Sean I was like numb to it I wasn't afraid

I'd lost all fear From where I was when it appeared on the top of that hill to now I'm not afraid so we make the turn and we start up that hill and I'm going so hard with that Ford truck up that hill and it's it's wallering in the ruts and you know the shrubs on either side of bush brushing the mirror as I down in the swamp and when I cross the top of that Hill that gate it was almost like a liking it to an old Streets of San Francisco movie where the cars

were jump When they go over the hills this we almost went Airborne that's how fast we were trying to depart that place but when we top that Hill those three orange orbs two of them were still in the exact same spot are you serious yeah now we got three 40ft balls of white light on the River Bank behind us and something an orb which I know what it was it was one of those beings to their eyes from a distance looked like a little ball of light you can't really Tell and so now we're faced

with two 40t balls of fire 300 yards and about 200 ft in the air in front and the third one is the one that took me that's the one that appeared above me and shot down that thing now is sitting in the road and it's halfway between us and the highway so it's a 100 150 yards away and when I went over that Hill I slammed on brakes because of that it's sitting there looks like a football now it's going white it changed from red to White and it's sitting sideways in the road it's hovering

about 5T off the ground and it looks like a an egg or a football about that time we heard gun shot and we all heard them and we thought immediately one of these country boys had pulled out the shotgun and they were shooting at this thing so it just pivots and it starts towards us it's coming down the road at us 5T off the ground then it starts up but I want to back back one Second before we heard gunshots there's this mobile home in the back of that field and there were two cars there

and one of the guys with me says I know who that is that's Shane he he's play I play softball with him so let's go to his house nobody had a phone I didn't have a cell phone I couldn't afford one nobody had one and we just wanted somebody to see this with us right so I drove across the ditch up in his man's yard pulled my truck right up to his front door and the Storm doors open I mean it's closed but the front door is open so we could see the TV playing through

the door two cars in the yard and one of the guys gets out knocks on the door nobody answers and I even blew the horn my trucks you know 6 feet from the front door headlights blurring in and I'm looking back through the window and there's a thing sitting in the road behind us right because the the mobile home was facing the way out and we had Turned up to the door and that orbs stood I mean this football is still there 150 yards nobody answers so I back back out and I pull back out

in the road now I'm about 40 or 50 yards closer to this thing because we had to go forward to get to this mobile home about that time the three gunshots happen and then it starts and it comes and it comes and when it gets to my truck I open the sunroof on it and it crossed over the top of my truck and it was probably 60 Ft up I could have shot it with a homemade slingshot and and it hit this thing no sound just glowing white light that was doing this did it look

solid or did it looked kind of translucent it looked um it once it got that close to us it looked almost um it was blinding from the light but at a distance it looked like an egg it's it's hard to tell it was translucent because the light coming off of the thing but it it was definitely shifted from a red Ball of fire to a football or an egg or a Tic Tac and I'll tell you how I got involved with government because when I reported that thing I'll tell that in a minute so here

this thing comes over my truck right when it got was it passing through things or was it moving around things it moved up and over a tree in front of me there was a okay it wasn't like it was passing through trees or trucks or although they do any they do it was doing both no this one it Came down the road and it was one tree between us and it to the side it went up and over and when it came over the truck uh it cleared the trees behind me a solid stand of

woods behind me so it had to been about 80 ft at the most to clear them trees then it turned it pivoted and shot off to the north so I hit the gasp and now I'm flying out of there and he's guys there it's the end of the world we've been invaded where's the military where's Fort Brag get me home So I can see my wife before this for it's over I mean it was just drastic now I'm no longer afraid I I wasn't afraid like they were they were all terrified so I'm sitting back

kind of numb watching this take place I want to get out of the truck and look at it you know they're like having nothing to do with that so we take off and we start toward dropping these guys off one of them live or two of them live side by Side about 2 and a half miles away the other one lived about six miles away seven miles they were fighting who got to go home first so bad that the this guy that lives seven miles away went out so we had to drive to him drop

him off and turn around and come back to drop the other two off right but on the way way we had orbs balls of Light Tracking us alongside the truck crossing over in front of us and um one of the most this these kinds of Details I'm going to tell you now all played a major part in my understanding of what was going on because halfway there between where we were and and the home of the first two guys two and a half miles right halfway there is a Dead Man's Curve I mean it's a

sharp curve it's like if you go through it at 35 you you're having a hard time the car just you could lose it real easy in Fact my first wife was killed there in that curb and I found her what do you mean you found her it was a weird thing you found her that night no I'm going to tell you in 1981 or two 82 uh we' been married 11 months and 28 days so we had two days before our wedding anniversary and I had gone deer hunting to the coast with my dad and

we were hunting islands with dogs right and my neighbor friend Growing up um we had a hunting club out in the middle of nowhere on 4,000 acres of land dad had it for 25 years and that's where all the young kids would go and party on Friday night or Saturday night they'd have a keg party or whatever and I'd go on hunting and they all called me you got to come to the party and so my wife said I'll meet you there she went to the party I got home about 8:00 from the coast got

dressed and took off down to the party And [Music] um she had left the party and went through that curve too fast and rode in and into somebody's front yard are you looking for a voice that truly represent your values meet AAC the association of mature American citizens founded in 2007 AAC was created to Champion the needs of Americans who believe in faith family and freedom today AMAC is over 2 million members Strong in growing the mission is simple but powerful to protect the interest of all freedom-loving Americans advocate for common sense policies and offer

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walked back toward the highway and that's where I found her had no clue oh man and um she died right there me open her and so I lived a long time uh stressed over that never could get over it you know her you I should Have been there you know it's my fault and so I lived with that well that night coming home from the river with all what was your wife's name was Dana and and that that whole incident on the River on the way home we approaching that Dead Man's Curve right over the

spot where she was killed is this big thing hovering right over her top I slammed on brakes I saw it immediately where it was and and I wanted to get out and and look at it up under I mean it Was right above us it was just above this big high attention power line well they were fighting me bad they're not having none of this and but what I wanted to say was that that um at that moment it spoke to me telepathically or whatever and said you need to not worry about her she's in

she's in good hands and so I take these guys on home right I Never told them this what happened I only wrote about it years later but that's when I got peace from the whole incident after 15 or 25 30 years or 20 years at least I can't do the math it was in 2007 we're married in 82 um I finally got peace from that everybody's terrorized by UFOs orbs fire lights and I'm thinking about this relief from what so I'm in a different world from them now right and I still don't know what happened

to me I Had no clue what happened for four hours couldn't believe it so I dropped these guys off Chris juner and I had back home now he's I'm worried about him he's panicked he's going through the house locking it down every room he'd close the door and lock even the bathroom and he' turn the lights on the room run up shut the blind turn on the lights and lock the door I'm in my study looking on TV to try to find news you know there's an invasion happening we just knew this It was crickets

I couldn't find anything so juner finally comes to the room and says um have you found anything I said no son and then about that time we hear something come over the house with his humming noise I thought it was a helicopter because it was coming from Bragg's Direction which is only you know 2015 miles from me from the base 20 miles and it's heading exactly towards the River and suddenly every it once it goes out of here and every dog in our kennel started barking and my dad raised dogs all his life he had

a hundred at the time when I'm growing up and even then he had 15 Hounds in that kennel and they're all these old hounds got a loud mouth right and they're barking as loud as they can and what it sounded like was uh they were afraid you dogs can bark different sounds and you can anybody knows hunting knows what a Dog saying I knew they was scared they were seeing something they didn't know what it was I said juner only thing I could think of is where Dad's kennel was is in the forest behind his

house back in the head of woods and he had a double car separate garage next to the kenel so the dogs could see the kenel I thought somebody come from the road and was breaking into his shop and the Dog Saw and that was what was going on in my head and Junior is like we're not going out there I said Dad I said U Junior we'll use a flight we won't use a flashlight we'll sneak down in there and use Rosie had a 110 lb Chesapeake Bay Retriever sitting on the back steps and her

hair was standing up she's watching towards the kennel in the woods and um this awful racket right and I finally convinced him to to go with me or stay whichever he wanted And he he was scared to be by himself so he grabbed me by the back of the shirt and I I'm walking real slow I walked out the door and Rosie took off toward the kennel ran out of sight we walked across the lawn to a two rup Road went down in the woods got to the back of that kennel and now all these

dogs and imagine they're very loud and we're standing there looking at 15 Hounds in a kennel barking as hard as they can Towards the woods in the back oh this is weird these dogs should be looking toward the gross and I'm whispering to junor Rosie's right there in front of us pointing in the woods her hair standing up barking every breath I said Jenner uh I said it must be a bear dogs not scared of deer but they will do this on a bear sometimes the scent was they get scared so I said I'm gonna

put Rosie in on on whatever's in there and she'll run them Out we're going to run back to the yard and go to the back of the property we make made a plan and we're going to hide behind this giant oak tree and hope we can cut her off before she runs through so soon as I bumped her on the bus she jumped in the woods and Jenner and I took off running we had to go to the end of that road make a left on the yard and go to about 400 ft 500 ft

there's a big yard 6 Acres there to cut whatever's in there off and I just knew it would be a bear or deer or something so when I made the left turn it was the grass was a little now we got frost right it was cold that night we talking about 11:00 now he pulled a loose from me so I thought I'd just pulled away from him when I slipped a little bit but what happened was he had had enough he took a right went back to the house he's in the back I didn't know

that though I'm running to the back hard as I Can ran up to this big tree and I ran so hard I was trying to be quiet and I'm trying to catch my breath so I'm pting trying to be quiet with it right and I'm I stopped myself against a tree and so I turned around after about a few seconds of stopping and panting dog's coming straight at me he's coming through the forest and I looked back to see if Chris juner was going to come up and when I did that was a little the

same thing he described on the river This little glowing being about yay tall with with glowing red eyes it was glowing the color of the Moon it looked like a child it looked like a four-year-old child about that size didn't look like a gray alien or none of that what people report it looked like a a glowing little child but the details shiny this thing was glassy it was gleamy the the body looked like it had glass on it and about that time um when I I Turned back and saw it it it frightened me

so bad that my hair stood up every cell of my body went oh my God I'm dead so I went toward the trees to turn around instead of where I was standing cuz I didn't want to get no closer to it so I leaned into the tree and I turned and put my back to the tree and I said I Surrender I'm I don't mean you harm and it said to me in this this thunderous voice he said you don't understand I'm not here to hurt you We're here to help you about that time Rosie

comes on through and this thing vanishes in front of me see it anymore I walked up to the house trying to figure out why it just happened and how not to tell Chris junr what I just seen because he didn't want that around him any longer and next morning when I get up um about 10:00 that day I hadn't had my medication and I had been taking medication for 17 years for Crohns and if I missed it one day it was it was suffer time yeah I take it every day if I missed a day

the next three days my system would get out of whack and it was more restroom right and I didn't feel the normal sickness that I normally have I didn't feel the the nausea I didn't feel any of it and I thought this is weird you know I've been living with this every day and now I don't feel it and from that point forward I never had another symptoms of Chrom's disease it was completely gone I've been to to Chapel Hill University um I've had specialist check me out from top to bottom and there there is

no marker for Chrome's being there and see I come down with rheumato years later 2009 and and I've been treated since then for rheumatoid arthritis and they thought it was the Crohns that had come back but it wasn't the Crohns didn't come back as remid there was no marker There and Ra was a different story but long story short that was the uh the end of the the January 7th initial encounter uh walking back to that house and trying to get my son set down from the shock that he'd been through now I'm kind of

I'm in shock basically myself but not um because of seeing this stuff and trying to to to to process it is it's it's not natural it's not normal what was your first conversation with Your son afterwards I told him I said son I said I believe they're angels He said no Dy they had to be he couldn't even get it out that there were there were demonic entities I said no they wer son there were Angels they healed me so we battled that for for months and here's the thing it never left me I mean

it never left and to this day it's still with me and I mean stronger today than it was back then This is why the government has studied me they've studied me more than any human in existence from DIA CIA do the ministry of Defense in England um CIA Jim siman wrote the Ford to my book he's the director of operations for the CIA John Alexander wrote the the the forward um or introduction they both shared and right so we went through the longest time trying to convince him I did that it was Positive and he

it got worse for him because from that point forward this is where I want to say um if I could say this word this is where hell set in for me because I'm telling everybody they put it in my head that night that I had to tell the world so I compared my myself to to Richard dfus on Close Encounters of the Third Kind where he was making the mashed potato Devil's Tower on his table he could see it he was completely obsessed with with this phenomena and I was as well all I wanted to

do is tell everybody well that was the worst thing I did because now the church comes down on you're playing with demons it's got to be demonic and itates like no it's not who was the first person you told um probably my wife she came home a couple days later she been gone and of course we' called her and all But uh she goes let me say her family are the the they brought the Pentecostal movement to North Carolina they went to California they were at scissor straet her you know ancestors they brought it back

to Falcon North Carolina built orphanage so I had the weight of the whole conference on me not just some local church down the street so there was a lot of power there and other churches to local churches my mother my very Religious lady all at that time they all automatically resorted to it's the devil it's demonic you know and and I'm saying but they he me and that that wasn't what I experienced and they got so bad that they tried to take my children from me they wanted to divide my family they were telling my

kids that that I'm playing with the Devil he's going to ruin them children somebody call social services on me I had to deal with that uh with the government to try To just to keep my kids right and so yeah that started a really hard time you had mentioned that the third object that appeared seemed to know your thoughts it does it now what exact what exactly does that mean these things can read your mind they're connected to our thoughts this is why one thing I can promise you if you're a God-fearing man and you

know the Bible one thing that the church knows is that always preach you'll hear It all the time only God can read your thoughts only Heaven not that the devil can't read your thoughts right so this is something taught to all Christians from early on the devil can whisper in your ear but he can't read your mind well these they read your mind and they know every they're connected to us they're connected to our thoughts they know your heart they know your intentions and somehow another Sean they have the ability to stop the timeline to

To manifest things to make things happen and to to I've seen it a thousand times people come to see the Phenomenon with many as 75 with me at the time and it appears but there are certain people if they're afraid or if they're they're um there if they're skeptical that's that I can tell you skeptical people about this Phenomenon will never see anything they're left out because if they know your free will they don't want to to change your you know go against your free free will um but they they they can appear in a

group of 50 people standing beside me and that one skeptical person will look that way for one second and it'll appear in front of everybody else I've seen it a thousand times it knows how to it knows where you're going to Look before you look interesting yeah seriously you had mentioned I believe you had two near-death experiences before this incident when it age 10 10 I was shot point blank with a shotgun what was that near-death experience well um I was it was it was New Year's Day 1972 uh after hunting season uh season had

gone out at on the 31st and so it was fix the roads on Saturday and cook a hog so we got all these men this part of The club rout repairing the roads and all the farm right and my grandfather and the farmer that owned the land was at the club tending to the Hog on the cooker so myself at 10 and my best friend and my first cousin grabbed a shotgun took off about um a mile away 3/4 of a mile we walked to the back of a cornfield and we spread out and we

were going to shoot duffs right Duff SE and this bird came over my neighbor he shot at it missed it came right over And I shot it and it turned and it went away and landed in the woods I knew it it so I took off across the field walking a double barrel shotgun in my hand I walked up to the edge of the woods and I saw him in there in a pile of briers flipping FL fluttering around so I thought I better put a shell in my gun in case it gets up and

flies away so I cracked that double barrel open and I pulled two shells out of my coat and I put one in and dropped the other did not Know that my friend wanted to claim that he shot the bird right and ran across the field behind me I didn't know he was there ran up right behind me and when I reached D pick that shell up he was going to shoot over me shoot that bird CL kids when I stood up it hit me right Square in right here in the shoulder blew a hole this

big I have a scar that big on my back now imagine a 10-year-old I was only this tall Mhm it felt like a sledgehammer hit me it drove me about uh 10 ft forward and face down in the in the forest and the first thing I felt blood running everywhere and I said why did you shoot me and now my cousin's coming across the field and they're fighting they're screaming at one another go get help he's my cousin I'm staying with him he's my best friend I'm will stay that's what they were doing I'm laying

there bleeding to death and so the farmer Heard them fighting and here he comes down that cornfield in an old pickup truck was blue and white Ford from the 60s and he runs in the woods picks me up like a sack of potatoes and put in his truck took me to the hospital next thing I know I'm up in space looking down from from way up high I can see the Earth getting smaller and smaller and smaller and then I wake up And I'm in I'm out of surgery and I'm in an x-ray room back

then I had so much lead in me from birdshot that I still have 17 pieces in here you can see it on this side all in this shoulder in this front and um I set the airport X-ray machine off they'll Pat me down most every time I go through because of that but all I remember is is seeing the Earth from above and being out of my body in total peace um it wasn't cold I wasn't afraid I was just had a Marvel of looking that all this and then when I came back too there's

my mom looking through the window of crying what about the what was the other one you had too much medication for the Crohn's disease well I tell you what they did and this is in the book there's a whole lot in this book I've not covered I've glossed over um along about 2004 um my Crohns was so bad I mean it Was in bad shape and I was in such depression because i' lost8 $19 million in savings and and net worth gone I've sold every apartment building or house I had rentals had a lot of

them just to pay interest and we sold the business to a really big Builder from North Carolina builds 1500 homes a year and my doctor is treating me he's like you know he would just hug me and cry with me CU we'd been friends Forever and he said um I'm sorry for getting emotional here thinking back is is hard today it's wonderful and joyful it's a different world today but those old memories are tough but he said look um there's a new study out there's this anti-depressant medicine called paxel that supposed to show help for

crowns because stomach problems are exacerbated from stress the more you worry the worse it gets and I was so bad that my whole Inside was inflamed and was very painful and so puts me on paxel and he tells me I should probably have somebody to talk to so he sends me to a psychiatrist right never thought about anything like that and I was embarrassed to go but he convinced me you need to do this so I go to the psychiatrist and I thought it was odd when I walked into his room he was smoking a

cigarette and laughing talking to me and he only spent 5 minutes with Me he looks at my paperwork and what the doctor prescribed he said oh you on all the wrong stuff he didn't take me off that he added more to it he just added a couple prescriptions that said take this and come back in five days or you know next week or seven days every week I had to go back once a week and within 60 days I didn't know who I was and I had gone into uh I was unconscience and what he

did he had put Me on something called lithium I didn't know what it was I didn't know even what the scrible was he didn't tell me that's what it was he just wrote These prescriptions and the thing when you take that you're supposed to test your liver or metals and all your system your organs can fail because of toxic metal poisoning well that's what happened to me I woke up in the hospital I was laying on a stretcher completely covered from head to Toe and I come up out of my body and I was at

the ceiling and I could see down my wife sitting there three doctors walked in the room and she was crying and I never forget I heard the doctor's name which I won't say it now because of his privacy but the guy said good evening doctor um this is the 113th patient that this physician has injured or put in the hospital come to find out the guy that was treating me had gone off the deep in And was taking his taking medication himself I don't know what he was taking but he overdosed and died while I

was in the hospital he put 113 patients of his in the hospital and overdose and died this happened this is in the book and you know why it's like getting shot I didn't want that I didn't ask for it just happen and now here it is somebody else is is poisoned me or it was always just seems like everything that's Happened to me has been out of my hands I there's a lot in this book that I've been through from third degree burns catching on fire when I was two years old I had big scars

up my legs to a brand new TransAm in 79 blew up 2,000 miles in the radiator it overhead and the radiator exploded and put put me in the hospital with third degree burns my neck out to this arm I had skin grafts a brand new car so I thought all my life something's trying to keep me from being Here or keep me from doing something one day so the near-death experience was you witnessing the conversation between the doctor and your wife yes anything else that's all I remember it was uh and then you're back in

your body I'm back in my body and miserable now you know recovering and yeah all right well let's let's take a uh let's take a quick break and then we'll move on to what happened Afterwards okay uh yeah life comes at you fast making sure my family is taken care of is my top priority and fabric by Gerber Life makes it super simple fabric by Gerber Life is term life insurance you can get done right from your couch all online and on your schedule you could be covered in under 10 minutes with no health exam

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sound like there was really anything that related to this it all relates it does yes it all relates to it in fact I believe That um when I was 10 years old when that happened to me it was so traumatic you know I grew up with a gun in my hand five years old um you know it's just part of being where I was raised you know 10 years old I'm carrying a gun and got shot so my whole life changed to um to a different perspective you and I didn't realize it until this event

happened in 2007 but I can look back and and I write about this in the book a lot of things it in other words I began to see after this doctor poisoned me the second time the weirdest thing happened um my family all of them can tell you I would be sitting in my kitchen and this is after right after the uh the thing in the hospital I was seeing things that my family couldn't see in my house and I'd Tell them and they thought I was going nuts they thought I was still on drugs

but I had completely gotten off all that and I'm as I'm and it took a long time to get back to where I felt halfway normal but I could see things what things well I could see this little being in the house you walk by and I'd tell them and they were filming me and they couldn't see it so I know it opened something up on me who was filming my my wife and kids would film me talking About what I'd see in the house this this little being it would be about this tall look

like Gazoo you might say from Fred Flintstone just he could hover in the house and I began to wonder am I going crazy am I seeing things and did it look human yeah it sure did did you interact with it I did I be talking to it even had a name for it named Johnny is what I called it my kids would they would laugh they thought I was completely but I just come out out of The hospital too and I was heavily medicated but I knew that opened me up to the spiritual world to

the to the other side what would you interact with the being about we'd have conversations he was always watching over me protecting me and um my wife's like who are you talking to say do you remember any of the conversations specifically are there any ations that stick out not in detail other than it I knew it was there watching over me it Wasn't a scary thing it wasn't like it was there to harm anybody it was there to to get me through what had just happened it was protecting me what would the conversations be about

um it was always positive about uh healing and uh reinforcement that I was going to be all right because I just come through a near death and that eventually faded away after a few months and I stopped seeing it but it was always there and it was Very real to me and um it later showed up after the 2007 incident this was an4 and 05 mhm in ' 07 when this thing happened and I'll tell you something else too this was really weird in ' 05 we we were forced to move because we' sold out

and lost everything moving from a big house to a mobile home we were having Thanksgiving dinner at my mom's we built the new house or the mobile home we restored it it was an Old one I had as a rental property I moved it on their lot next door out in the country beside Mom and Dad it was Thanksgiving Day night and uh a whole family was there from sisters to everybody right and I guess it was 9:00 at night 930 a couple of the guys smoking went outside to smoke and um eventually I went

outside to conversate and we look right over to where we were going to set the mobile home before we even put it There there is a football field long glowing cigar maybe 200 above the lot right over top of the trees and it was barely moving and my kids myself my mother all of us watched it you could walk beside it it was so slow no sound and it really didn't register with me at that time but that was before the River Event so with the being how would it Converse back with you it's well

the first couple times was I could hear it audible speak speaking but it didn't Move its mouth it's like you could hear it was it English yeah very deep voice very loud but now today it's more telepathic it's it's it's images it's and we've proven that that uh on television on the History Channel That's my brain is communicating with this phenomenon what could you be a little more descriptive of what the being look like um uh yeah it looked like a like a four-year-old child a four-year-old foury old about like a three four year Old

little toddler uh not much more than um 3 feet tall glowing softly like the color of the Moon with these uh and red eyes and it had a triangle shape underneath that it was glowing gleaming from head toe they had this triangle on his chest right here and that turned out to be a pretty big symbol for some people in the government what what is that symbol well there's one right here from NASA that's A triangle on that pin wonder how I got that they were the first ones to come want to know about that

little be with the triangle on its chest interesting yeah did it wear clothing it was gleaming so bright it had something on on but it looked like the outer layer of it was just glossy gleaming brilliant and there's a there's a description that Daniel gave chapter 10 in the Bible where he describes an Angelic being that his an encounter and he says it it was his body was gleaming like topz and it had torches fire red glowing eyes this is Daniel's descript I straight out of the Bible and it was given to me by Scholars

to read interesting yeah interesting how many times I mean and I've got a lot of questions how many interactions a day would you have with us say today is more than Ever today it's gotten to where um let's say at that time back back then after it happened after the initial counter and all my kids come home and I'm being told not to talk about it because it was scary and it was they had my wife believeing it's demonic and for a long time which is understandable when you're raised in a church you know they

all say this is demonic well they don't know they have no clue nobody does I'm telling you not Even the pope they don't know everybody imagines what's out there speculates but until you see it and you interact with it you're speculating you questioning but it immediately followed me home and these orbs would appear a ball of light flash and out steps these shadowy figures and they would walk through the house and walk through walls look like a human same size and all this is This is before no this is right after the event 2007 let's

try to just let's just keep it before the event for right now okay and so did it have hair I didn't see any hair it just there just so much gleaming there it's hard to get the detail the brightness of this thing standing 4T away I could see its eyes cuz they were red right and they were glow in this triangle shape I actually drew it and uh painted it in 2009 but there they um did this little glowing glowing little entities that and these are the same type of eyes that you saw at the

river yes yes it's what my son described um now the being that I was telling you about when I come out the hospital for a few months there I kept seeing this little being it didn't have red eyes it looked like a person a little small person but it floated about okay that's what I was referencing so the so Johnny Johnny he looked like a Little person just a little and he had a triangle no the one in the river that that scared Chris Jr in 2007 the one that night that I saw didn't look

like Johnny Johnny looked okay this looked like a a uh just glowing so bright that the detail is is hard to describe so I'm talking about Johnny right Johnny so Johnny was not glowing nope it looked like a little say a small person but it didn't look could you differentiate between a regular Three-year-old four-year-old child and this yes because it seemed to be grown for an adult but small it spoke like an adult it interacted with me like an adult but that didn't last long this is after all this medication the daughter put me on

so what what did you think that was I thought it was a guardian angel right away you thought it was a guardian angel and the entire family said that it was demonic not then they didn't say Anything they just were listening and filming this was in' 05 what were they filming me they were recording interacting with interacting yeah so in if can I have access to any of that film I'd have to get my wife to dig it up but yeah she has a lot of stuff she recorded all my kids after the event on

the river uh so what does that what do those films look like does that look like you interacting with thin air well yes Probably some of them yeah I'm sure yeah I would love to get some of that footage if possible and uh I will see insert it I see if she can do that how many Ryan sorry you're in the you're now on the Sha Ryan Show have you seen these films I was there what I mean what did it look like what does it look like to see your dad interacting with thin air

I was 10 years old so I understood it the way That my mother explained it to me which was that he was you know going off the deep end so I we just thought it was funny like oh he's on medicine he's hallucina friend and we I don't know I mean I you can't really understand what's happening when you're 10 so I just kind of laughed you know they all thought I was nuts and and rightly I had been overmedicated and still but that medication opened me up to something That two years later came out

of the sky and took me mhm we'll get there yeah how what about this being made you think that it was a guardian angel and that it had your best best interest the way it was talking to me it was there it tell me it was there to protect me it was watching over me and that I was going to be fine this you know I just come through a hard time in life and I'm still sick I'm still with Crws I'm still really bad shape and uh and then got shot with basically like shot

with a gun with this medication and I'm still sick and now I've got this to deal with and yeah did you ever try to make contact like physically touch I never did it would be brief it would appear and it won't be there long it would be there you know just little bit a few seconds or long enough to maybe maybe a minute And then it was gone it would just vanish in front of me and they all thought um and rightly so that I had lost my mind and now this just didn't happen and

this exacerbated the 2007 two years later when I come home talking about it my wife's like he's he's still lost it he's he's not he's he's gone crazy and the whole Community said he's crazy and then when everybody started experiencing it with me and the family now it's demonic It's really happening to this guy but he's bringing the devil into his house this this what where it ended up when did it disappear for good before the incident within 6 months maybe um or late 2005 I'd say is when it ended I didn't see it anymore

and then a year later remember I'm on the river and that's when it come out of the sky and that's when it healed me and it said we're not here to hurt you we're here to help you did you respond to that yeah What did you say well I didn't really speak other than I Surrender I I'm I'm sorry I don't mean you any harm and it's telling me this in my head and I felt this greatest joy and the sense of relief that I understood now uh more fear and that's why immediately when I

reported it I knew it was these same Angelic beings but it didn't look like this little being I'd seen two years prior but I related it all in the same Thing you know there's a lot of different things that can appear around you it it can appear any way it wants to so after the incident when you described this to your family did they put two and two together that this has happened not this exact thing but he's yeah that you had been in contact with some type of being before well yeah they thought I

was first off they didn't want to believe me and now you have another family member your Son who also experienced it yeah that's cooperating it and they still tried to think this can't be true it just can't be true and that's what was making me so emotional about Chris junr he struggled so hard and he comes home telling what he saw and nobody wanted to believe him they're just like he's crazy like his dad right here I run a 18 million $20 million year company and I went through a terrible Time with sickness and a

doctor and I come out the other side and not now I'm crazy right this guy's crazy so the whole Community basically uh started mocking my family and this is after the 07 inent and it turned into uh five years of what I call in the book five years of Darkness from 27 to 2012 and when that 2012 came everything changed who who did you contact about this incident with afterwards well well I didn't for the first 10 months because of me when I came home and I was told this immediately my wife trying to to

keep peace in the family and her little whole world right now Chris has come home telling this big tale and got Junior telling it with him and and they nobody wanted to believe it my dad made fun he must be on drugs still on drugs you know I was only on medication and the doctor gave me um won't drinking alcohol none of that and here um Everybody started that and then with a few months or weeks my wife would take the kids out to see her mom or go to church I wasn't going to church

anymore I'm at home in my study in complete depression cuz nobody believe me what happened and now nobody's believ in my son pushed us away from the church that she would be in town coming home and kids running the door oh my god dad you won't believe what we saw on the way home there was a Big triangle thing in front of the car flying right down in front of us you know following us home so now my kids are coming home and I just sat back and I'd smile thank you thank you Lord because

I was praying every day Lord let my family let my children experience what I did so at least they would believe me and um I'll never forget and I'll tell you in a minute what my wife said when the first investigator Come who who did you call in October uh this was in January when it happened 10 months later October I saw on the television a show called U uh UFO files and there was this ston Freeman a physicist on there and he's talking about UFOs I'd never seen any of shows and it come across

report your sighting to muon so I quickly got their email address and I wrote them what is muon standord it's a mutual UFO Network it's where it's a data so investigation Okay thing that people report sightings to and a pretty big outfit International right so that's to go to if you have a sighting you go to mua I had never heard of until I saw it on TV so I made the report and I was so afraid to send it that I didn't send it for two weeks cuz I just knew if I did I'd

lose my family I was told never to talk about it again well I didn't know what happened to me for two for 4 hours if I tried to think about it I'd I would uh pass out my Family would see it if you started questioning me and I tried to think I'd pass out and so I sent it two weeks later later this is the 13th of October and immediately they wrote me back oh we want to talk to you well I got scared I said no this is too real now I I don't want

to lose my family so I told him no I just wanted just to report it but I don't want to interview January comes along they write Me again we're going to close the case but we really want to talk to you and by then it's been a year now I'm I am I can't I can't function my head had some kind of block and and I couldn't think at all and so I said okay and in February they sent some a guy from a local investigator from Raleigh North Carolina and he came in there and

that's when my wife said you ever heard of what do you know about Shadow Be and um now we've never talked about the UFO thing but she'd been seeing these in the house and uh got shoved a couple times just to get her attention I was praying every day Lord let her see it and and she looked to me and said don't ever pray for me like that again so but it was in the house it was interacting with the kids orbs over the house outside but I could never share it with anyone except my

immediately family and so at this Point the entire family ising my three four children a daughter she was 10 years old old then Ryan was 13 uh Jeremy he was uh 15 Christian was 17 and Emily she's the only girl he's the baby and now they're being told by the church your dad is is dealing with demons well and they didn't want to believe it because they were seeing it with me so it was it was a horrible place to be when the whole Community come down on us There and it continued for 5 years

but what happened was the community didn't let up the church didn't let up and I don't mean just my wife side but my all the churches around even the original ones the people were talking and the boys that were with me their children were catching a fit let me back up in 2007 I reported it 2008 the investigator come and Immediately they sold me on doing a show on Discovery Channel you got to do it we'll vindicate you you do this show everybody will believe you so I agreed to it I had to beg Junior

to take participate well they did their show and immediately they set me up they set me up to they would comeing to my house to do an interview and called me can you come to the hotel and sign all the paperwork and then we're going to go from there well when I got in that hotel They had a guy from the FBI there with a li detector thing set up and and cameras pointing at it completely I did 34 questions for two hours they just over and over and over and then on the show they

called me he said he was lying about Sin and entity now things got really bad the whole communities and now the school my children's school they're being made fun of their dad's crazy They're laughing at my Kids it nearly ruined my boys they were all you know thinking girls dating now everybody's laughing at them in the hallways calling them out in the school class and making them tell the stories and so five years goes by of that of pure nightmare but NASA shows up a friend from NASA Dr Hal PM a friend well he's a

friend he's like a he wasn't a friend then no I didn't know him in fact my son Ryan calls me dad there's somebody here from NASA he wants to talk To you I said well tell him stick around I'd be home about an hour 6' five huge man we were afraid of the government so bad because muon and the UFO World said the Men in Black was on TV then they'll kill you the government will kill you don't ever talk to you know different ones uh the names they would use and so now we're terrified

the government's knocking on our door he comes in and um he became a father figure to my children and he died in 2019 he'd been To my daughters and my children's birthdays he would come from Cape canaville all the way down to the piano recital their graduations their birthdays and we've become best friends and he's they studied me and long about 2012 13 another guy comes what was the initial guy's name Dr Hal pin Meer he um he was at Nasa 59 years when he died what were they studying first off he wanted to know

about that little glowing be with a Triangle on his chest and he first when he first came his mission he told us my mission was to debunk you so he came and and initially met us then he left on his own and we didn't know where you went back home but he didn't he was searching records from the sheriff's department to the FAA to Knocking on every door in that Community out there asking did you see something and he found out that eight other people that night all witness to fly over their houses and Stuff

one guy was 70 years old sitting on his front porch and it went 20 ft over his house and so how knew then that this was real and he he um he became uh like a father figure he would come and entertain my kids more than he would me because they were he just that kind of guy and so um all throughout the five years after an event happened how was the one there there were other military people calling from the Air Force sending Letters wanting me to interview want me to draw pictures and all

this stuff and I would just stay away from it I was still scared of how I didn't know who this guy was yet it's just five years into it but we love my kids loved them but I'm still you know who is and so in 2012 at Easter of 2012 this is when everything changed this is really what got the US government knocking on my door this is where why I'm here Today 2012 Saturday night Easter Sunday morning's Easter right at 3:00 in the morning so it's actually Easter Sunday morning 3:00 in the morning I'm

asleep in the bed dead asleep that night before I I had had all I could stand seeing my kids coming home crying and the whole Community making fun of the family and my dad and now they've been experiencing this stuff they know it's happening but they couldn't contest adults right they Wouldn't talk back knew better but it was it had really my little girl coming home crying from people picking on her so I walked outside that night and I remember I had this desire to tell it to everybody I had to tell it it's like

the Richard dyus Close Encounters thing so I walked outside that night at 9:30 and I looked up to this guy I said thank you for ruining my life my children I said thank you for healing me And uh proven to my family that you're real but this life is worse off now for my whole family I'm I'm better physically but now my family is in shambles all because of me and I shouted it to the heavens is and I see these things they're coming you know these orbs are always around and I knew it heard

me I knew it was so I went to bed 3:00 in the morning I hear the same voice the same little being that spoke to me and said I'm here to help you not Hurt you I heard that same voice and it sound like a man really deep and it said arise that's all I heard that quick word arise and it was so deep it was like like thunder in my room I jumped up from laying in the bed dead asleep to sitting up in my bed and it's dark I can't see and there was

3:00 on my back then we had a clock alarm clock and it said 300 a.m. next thing I know I see movement in the room whatever they did to me they Caused me to get dressed and follow out the door now I'm outside and I'm walking towards my dog can 3:00 in the morning fully dressed clothed from being asleep and suddenly this figure hands me something as far out as it sounds now I'm telling you it sounds crazy and it took me two weeks to tell it because I'm they all live with me crazy and

and I stopped talking about it now five years later this Happens and what happened was it handed me this object and it felt like a living creature like a like a squirrel maybe or or something that size but I couldn't see or feel legs or a head it felt just like a tube but furry and kind of prickly and said and handed it to me and said you must keep this immediately I drop it because I know what it was and it was prickly and it's words came again no you Must pick this up you

must keep this so I re reach down to pick it up when I did this be that was standing there is now gone and I'm at the dog kenel so I'm juggling at my hand I know I need to see what this thing is it's dark so I open the kenel and put it in and close the door and the very second I did that this blast of air come directed it wasn't in the woods and around us it was right straight in front of me a blast air hits me and blew me over the

wind Later on I understood the Holy Spirit the word spirit means the wind the holy spirit means the Breath of God so I had to put this in there but it was the wind a physical Force blew me over and as I hit backwards on the ground I saw what appeared to be a translucent cow a bull run over me and I could see stars inside of it up through it that's what they had handed you well what they handed me I put in the kennel MH when I locked the door or closed the Door

now I blast air next to the woods hits me and out of that wind when the wind hit me and blew me over with that wind was a translucent cow or bull a big one okay went over me and it didn't hurt me but I could see it clearly I could see the stars inside this is really strange because I just it's definitely strange I'll get back to this in a minute right of something I just saw discovered with the guy that studies Egypt Dr Robert Grant he discovered that bull inside the king's chamber there's

never been a inscription in that pyramid nowhere so he goes in with light are and there's that bull Celestial Bull with stars inside of it he and I just work this thing out he he' he'd seen it he shared it with me and when I told him what happened to me he got some other Clues out of that but it was exactly what I saw but now listen when The bull went over I land on my back and I'm getting up the run so I roll over now I'm looking this way and behind me there's

no cow anymore there's a woman there she's about 3 feet off the ground she's glowing just color of the Moon there's a circle of light on the ground and she looks at me and she says you know why I'm here and I knew I was crushed basically but because I'd had this overwhelming desire to tell the world what I'd seen And then that night I cursed at the heavens and said I'm never doing that I'll never speak again and now she's like you know why I'm here this is your burden you must bear she said

that she said if you tell this story I'll always be with you I'll allow you to share our presence with others and film us so help me I never had a picture of anything for the previous five years only inside the house when people see this or or out in my my children now everybody's coming to The house and it appears overhead it appears around us and it's greater today than it was then and Magic started happening and when that word got out then comes this is government they want to know about this lady let's

let's pause right there I have questions okay so the initial what was what what was it that you were handed I've I've heard I've been asked that a million times I don't know it was Like a living creature it was living it was moving around it was but it had no head or legs it felt like if you had a squirrel in your hand or Hedge talk that prickly it felt like it was living but it had no head or tail and I asked the lady what this was and she told me it was a

s it was symbolic of humanity had lost its direction had no head or no tail it it completely lost its direction and it vanished when I right On the money with that exactly and she told me a lot of stuff that I never revealed to this day I haven't revealed a whole lot of it because I don't want to sound like a prophet or any of that I just don't my goal is to share this story with everyone and and share the phenomenon which I have been able to do what what did the figure look

like that handed you the the object it was a shadowy being like a shadow being so when you see These you see this shadow of a human figure but you can't really see the details it's like a shadow it's like a a ghost you might say and I have pictures of I have pictures of of these little beings and they look like ghosts I have a PCT I have a video of one of these beings coming out of an or Flash and it can I see that video yeah yeah I I'll give you one it's

6 Foot tall 7 foot tall and when it did that night a young lady with me was healed from cancer this happened in 2015 but um so what did the bull represent do you think I had no clue remember you worked with you worked with Robert Grant Robert Grant is who I was with last in at uh contact a desert a couple months back and Robert was showing the Oculus to me about what he had discovered in the pyramid so he put These goggles on and he does his slide art and their biggest daylight uh

is a bull on the side of the wall in the king's chamber it only can see it with this technology has and the stars are inside and above it is a helix a DNA and then on the sarcophagus in the king's chamber is the alpha and a mega symbol what do you think that represents it rep well Alpha Mega it's God the beginning and the end the Bull is the uh is the Celestial bll the uh to me is to me the lady that came to me is the Holy Spirit the the Breath of God

the wind uh the Virgin Mary of haor De Diana p in every culture on every continent they all have a mother figure all of them including the Egyptians they believe in the Trinity they you read the Egyptian stuff it was in the beginning it was p p was the father met was the mother and then they had uh it changed to uh Raw and then haor and then Horus just a Divine Trinity they have a Triad and um I think that the the lady the women the the the feminine was was taken out of the

the equation by a bunch of men in 2,000 years ago and oppressed all the women kicked them out and said you can't be in the church only it's only it's a boys club right and so from that point forward the women have been oppressed they made to wear things over their face and head and and even up in The 60s and 70s Me growing up there was a great oppression on the women but I just that's my belief and you know it doesn't matter in Christianity or in any religion none of us really know so

and so how did the how did the the government get involved and what is it let me rephrase that what is the what is it that caught the government's attention Okay so now this happens at Easter of 2012 by let me let me ask another I'm sorry do you think there's any significance to this happening on Easter 100% And what is that well you tell me what Easter means and uh the resurrection yeah every year every year at Easter either she comes back or some something miraculous happens every year at Easter every year since 20

every year Since then every year including this year and my son Ryan and his wife and my grandson Teddy of course my wife was a little bit scared so she turned her head and ran in the house but we all got to experience it this year at his and exactly when I told him at 8:30 it's going to appear and we ran to the restaurant to eat and I'm fussing we got to be home we got to be home by 8:30 and when we drove up in the yard it Was 8:30 when I opened the

door it appeared behind the car and um here come this big glowing bluish white ball of light through the forest going in and out of the trees and was approaching us and my wife freaked out and ran in the house but it's always something like that miraculous on Easter and it just feeds more into my understanding of the phenomena the whole thing she always comes in threes not always but it's it's Overwhelming three is is very meaningful in this three and I thumbed it over and over three orbs you know together they'll line up like

a triangle they'll fly through the sky in a triangle I said well if I didn't I'll give you a video of that um I have multiple videos of that it's always showing that symbol of three now let's what is it that caught the government's attention so one of the things that did Is in October of 20 TW uh no 2013 I could a call from a professor in Wilmington about uh is a a a religious scholar very famous she's written several books and um you probably know her if I said her name Dr Diana Pula

she lived hour and a half from me and she was given 20 th000 reports by muon to investigate why 2,000 people reported Angels Angelic beings that year they were seeing these now you only ever Hear about the bad stuff you only ever hear about somebody being on a table with multiple instruments and all this stuff you abduction bad but overwhelmingly 95% of all of it People Come Away with Angelic their experience is is Heavenly that's one of the things that you'll never hear about but October I walk outside I was a smoker then I was

watching TV with my wife I pause the TV at 9:30 I said I'm going to go out and Smoke so I walked out on that patio and she comes out a few minutes later and out in the back of our property about 100 yards back in the dark all of a sudden we see Sparks come from the ground and go up in a and she said what's up with that tree I said I don't know but I see it and suddenly it it rained for two days ground was wet this tree erupts into flames and

goes shooting fire 13 14 ft up in the air burnt the whole inside it Burnt from the inside out well that got the attention of government and you know how was there and now this other player from NASA wants to come see this tree and he's code names the dragon he runs all the launches for the you finessa he is the head guy he's National Recon office so that got me involved with the in our next thing I'm in cap canaville sitting with these guys half a dozen Of and that expands into a whole lot

more uh you know now I'm dealing with two people from NASA uh and this gets into medical study stem cell research uh and that happened a year later and what and I'll tell you what got me there here's really what got the attention of the government they heard about the tree they all wanted to come see it and they started but I get a phone call in early 203 Easter Easter of 2013 I write about the whole experience of my book I'm uh I haven't experienced with the lady again two weeks later this journalist comes

from Canada calls me I want to come see that Burning Tree he' heard about it he's heading to Florida so he stops by on the way all they right along 95 stays the night goes Florida and he comes back comes again wants to see more of the Tree and get more story so my kids are all home it's 5:00 at the afternoon he drives up in the driveway he pulls up gets out with his camera no clothes no bags he just gets out he wants to go see the tree and film it before dark he's

out there at the tree I'm with him there's a labrador my dog there was a Nelly full grown female left laying there beside us everywhere I'd walk she'd walk we get back to the house we stop just short of the door and Nelly stops and she's laying there Grant and I are talking you know just glad to see one another and I'm like you want to stay tonight I get kids to get your bags and they were all out there there was six or eight more people outside he said yeah that'd be I'd love that

so he's between me in the back door the house is open the back doors open the windows were it was in May it was May the 11th or May the 5th it's only two weeks after Easter Nelly stands up and starts toward The door when and Grant turns and when she walks by him I see blood come out of her neck and it shot way out like a stream of blood I like freaked out and Grant saw it she sprayed blood all over his pants when she went by and she ran in the back door

bleeding bleeding all over the floor and I ran and tackled her and took her outside and laid her on the concrete and I was going through my head oh my God Grant's filming this from Above and all my kids are gathered around and she's got a hole inside of her neck crossed her juggler vein that long and I could stick my finger in that deep and blood just shooting out when her heartbeat and I had my hand on it blood coming up through my fingers there and I knew I knew she was going to die

there were 30 minutes from a vet out in the country no couldn't call an ambulance I went through all this in my head I said she's going to Die and uh everybody's freaked out and I just looked up to the heavens I said Lord help her she went LMP and so I picked my hand up and that hole was gone everybody saw it disappeared perfectly like nothing had happened she stood up waggled her tail and walked away he filmed it all and it didn't take long that word got out next thing I get a call

from somebody connected CIA and he says what are you doing this week what are you doing tomorrow I said this is 2014 I this July 4th it's Friday the day is the second my kids are coming home from college we're going to have a party you know for the family he said well I need you in DC I said DC he said yeah there's a young boy up there that's really sick and they've lost uh they've tried everything they can and help him and uh There's he's got to make a wish in fact Barack Obama

gave him his make a wish and we have all the photos of him shaking Barack Obama's hand uh Michael Morel deputy director of CIA put him in his book wrote about him so you can imagine this young boy is in the midst of all these power Brokers in Washington and his mom's a doctor his grandpa was a cardiologist in New York and they spelled they were out of options and so I agreed to go he flew me Up there picked me up took me to Arlington to where they had the Fourth of July parades and

all this flags and stuff and I had no clue who I was meeting I had no idea what I was doing i' seen a dog miraculously get healed and I didn't know what happened and how that happened but these people thought at least we try something UFO God that's that healed a dog just to to help this child so I was terrified I didn't know what to say I know what to do uh I was Praying silently while I'm sitting here in front of this little boy he's got a feed and two and they tell

him us he's not going to live another year and I'm with his mom and dad and him and I prayed all night Lord help me what do I do so I said stayed at 1:00 that morning and this child had mitochondrial DNA disease meaning he could never eat if he ate food he threw it up profusely he couldn't make nutrients from the food so he was dying And once to get the feeding tube it's over usually they're dead right away and um I stayed 1:00 in the morning and this it wasn't an audible voice it

was like this message came this telepathic knowing and I said it said just hug him so when I went to leave I reached out and hugged him at 1:00 his mom asked me to stay tonight and I said no I've got a hotel down and the guy that brought me there he's Reading the book sitting in the back room right he he stayed with me and um 1:00 in the morning his mom calls me says he's he's eating he's EA his second plate and so this was the next morning that night at 1:00 I left

at 1:30 his mom called me and said he's eating two plates of food 30 minutes later yeah and what's this kid's name well to be respectful of the family I'd Rather tell you that off camera right but his person name is Brandon you still in touch with him yeah he was at my house I just spent last Memorial Day the Jim from the CIA the deputy director called me Brandon's now 21 or two years old and he's going off to to co uh a exchange School overseas and he'd never been away from home right and

they wanted me to be with him before he left they told me we know he's you're good for him to be around him but let me Tell you another one now he's 13 when he turns 13 he's having a bar mitvah first time I've ever been in a Jewish celebration right it was the most amazing thing this child has given a speech up on in this big church in New York City on 48th Madison we're in a basement and everybody there's anybody from the deputy director to the director of operations to the CIA and all

in between um were there a whole lot of Important 200 people at least my son Ryan and uh they're out dancing on the floor and he's you know and I'm thinking back all these people at home that's given me such a hard time if I could only tell them what I'm experiencing right now with my family this is just a moment for me suddenly Panic happened the music quit and the crowd come off the dance floor and I'm still sitting at my table with one other person everybody's going Out dancing and my wife is sitting

at the table behind and she had gotten up and she's with Debbie Jim's wife you know very powerful people the crowd got around me so much they're standing over me and I feel a person grabbed me on the shoulders and pulled me through the crowd and said you got to help him you got to help him well at their table this elderly man had passed out bored on and was totally pale white and he was Ghost white all these People trying to revive him trying to wake him up couldn't do anything she drugged me through

the crowd to him said you got to save him I put a hand on his shoulder and when I did he went and he stood up set up and a whole room saw it and so you can imagine what that did and that was way back in 2014 uh and it has only gotten more involved with government from there from as Senior service members who was that man who was the man that you revived I I knew who he was um he was the father-in-law of one of the people that um the the guy that

actually took me to DC the first time to help that little boy we were all invited to the party right to his bar mitzvah and it was his father-in-law that whatever happened to him he was totally unconscious there and so that set me on a path uh that I had no clue I'd be going Down people you know suddenly I've got hundreds saying I'm sick can you help me and that's been the hardest thing for me to try to to to help people and because I never intended it to be that way and I don't

know that I can do anything in fact I don't do anything it's it's something greater than I and and it's I think it's when I think of the the Divine World it just comes but you know there's a whole lot in my book about different ones that Have experienced this from Cancer's gone to to um this is a long list of people that have had blessings from this could you introduce me to one that would be willing to be on the show I will try how many people have you saved well I don't know that

I've saved anybody I I don't like to think like that but there how many people have you been a part of this Dozens dozens of people every day it's every day I can show you now just I don't I just pray for them or I just you know you if you know somebody that's sick they might send me a photo now and I just take the photo out and I hold it up to the heavens and I ask the Angel's God I never pray to Angel I pray to God and I ask for this help

for this person and I get these letters back I'm a doctor don't know and this goes for dogs I had two last month dogs that one was 16 years old and total kidney failure and the doctors are like we don't know what happened they're they're putting it in their journals trying to figure out what happened he's back completely functional kidneys and normal are there people out there talking about this that that that yeah yeah I've been private this Sean I haven't shared this in fact I hate sharing this publicly cuz it's going to cause a

whole lot more people to come But it's still part of the story that that tells the Phenomenon with me the experience with it this is why I know it's from the Divine world it's not something with teeth and a ray gun coming here to get us it's connected to our thoughts it'll appear a lot when I ask it and in front of me and you and others not every time but pretty much pretty much on the time uh sometimes 50 70 orbs will appear sometimes it's a little fire That'll appear right beside me like a

candle I've seen it I look over and oh my God it's right there and then it'll shoot off over my head and a lot of people have seen this rock stars one of the very big rock stars without saying their names I've been to my house um and have witnessed this up close and personal senior service members of the DIA if CS 19 been my house with their families and have experienced it you Know a lot it's a lot of people that have witnessed it and seen it still to this day how did the government

get more involved um well they wanted to study it right they wanted to see this for themselves because it's the most elusive thing in the world to walk out and and look up the heavens and ask something to come and all of a sudden hear these lights pop on and they come flying by You uh so there's a lot of them wanting to see that and study it and and you allow them to do that yeah I allow anybody that is I couldn't allow just anybody because I'd be overrun with people but the um at

my personal house I I've had the heads of the you know people from NASA people from the DIA the dod the CIA and they I had three from Washington there last week three guys diplomats that have experienced it with me I was in Washington for 15 days last Month and I filmed orbs in the daytime and and and at night and and uh with a lot of important people really important you know in government and stuff NSA can you name any of these people by name I don't have permission but uh you know Jim Simi

van everybody would research him he's in my book John Alexander John was with me 2015 he um in fact the first chapter of my book how I met John was um was about the Pope you know I'm out by The Burning Tree and this lady from White Forest University a scientist was doing this investigation of this tree and she has a a a Spirit Box she called it I've never heard of such a thing it makes this noise and and so supposedly spirits come through it and talk well she hands it to me I'm leaning

against the tree and my wife and my niece and her and her assistant were there looking at me from about 10 ft away And suddenly this voice comes through that box and said Chris the poop's in danger you must help and it kept saying that and it kept saying that we recorded all this we recorded 350 audio clips 350 and multiple voices comeing this thing and they were saying my name call me by name and so I sent that message to uh one the very guy that was involved with the child from the beginning it

was my contact right and um he's like oh my you Need to be here tomorrow next day and so in a couple days I was at his house and when I walked in the D door there was John Alexander that's when I met him and immediately we took a tour of of uh Philadelphia the the Congress Hall uh John got me into remote viewing I started reliving this thing and I began to give details about this uh couple of terrorists that wanted to explode a bomb on Congress Hall when the Pope was there and they

got the Secret Service involved and they intercepted uh emails and calls and found this kid and arrested him sure did and they shut the whole Ben Franklin Bridge down where people would come across but that was that's just another notch and and that's the first chapter of my book about the pope and I've been investigated by them um by the Vatican you've been investigated by the Vatican yeah they How did that go well [Music] um I was very sick at that time 2017 with crohn's with I'm not Crohn's but rheumatoid it came come on me

and I was on all this chemotherapy and these biologics and so um my professor friend works with the Vatican got permission to go in the Vatican archives Well my friend from NASA that I was working with from the NRL wanted to be a part so he was allowed to go with her and three of them went to the archives and when they with there they were texting me and sending me pictures of angels coming out of orbs that are painted on the wall in the Vatican and a message from the Pope that he said we

know that they're angels and that they don't mean you no harm but if you get too close to them don't let Them get too close because their energy can cause uh cause damage to your body in fact we know that St Francis of aissi had an orb get too close to him and Zapped him and he died two years later from his uh BLS and he she said we know for sure and today's lenses it was rumat toward ortis the same thing you got and so there's a lot of I've got all the photos and

stuff of that you can see they they' had a ceremony in my honor they put my PO picture in the Pop's Picture at the entrance of the Vatican archives they placed my picture between the books of Galileo and capern in the archives to be there forever so there's a whole lot that's going on from every angle throughout those years there man this is fascinating stuff yeah yeah so now you know why do you think you are the one I've been asked out a million times and um I don't like to think I'm the one or

any of that um I'm just a simple guy that had a miraculous experience that continues to this day and with all the government with all the Government contact and studying and the Vatican had anybody ever given you insight as to whether or not there are more human beings that have had similar experiences to you yeah and they all relate them back to Biblical times as far as anybody now I haven't heard they probably are But they always used you know St Francis or these different people throughout the Bible that had these experiences with orbs and

you know the reason NASA NASA wanted to go to be a part of that getting in the archives they wanted to study levitating Saints how come it is if the person can take off and fly to the Village next door you know it really happens people levitate so there's more to this world than we we got blinders all we're blinded and Uh yeah but we're Awakening now yeah I personally believe that uh we are the ones that put the limitations on ourselves exactly everything may be possible well think a lot of those writings that got

into this more detailed early on were deemed dangerous knowledge so it was removed from us understanding all of this stuff it's kind of like that was Priestly stuff where do you think you were for the hours that you disappeared During the incident in 20 7 well I can tell you I had no clue until 2008 when muon came and did the discovery show they actually sent a guy from The Harvard train psychiatrist that does hypnosis and he hypnotized me first to say we're removing this block and then we're going to come back next week and

find out what happened so he did the first one and immediately I could think about it and not pass out or have an excruciating headache so what He did work and then my wife and kids started for the next U it was about two weeks before they came they were they were startled because when I'd go to bed which always went pretty early they'd be up till late I'd be yelling out in my sleep and screaming and talking and they were in there filming me with cell phones and iPads why I'm doing this saying stuff

weird stuff you know like seeing beans and Omars and all kinds of weird stuff So eventually I began to Remember some of what happened not all but what I can tell you the four hours while I was gone was a virtual tour I was inside a bubble something that was solid that I stand on but I couldn't see the walls but I could touch them but I could see everything in every direction and there were always three figures behind me that were shadowy and they were narrating what I Was seeing and I saw North America

from way up high I saw the whole United States and then I was taken to Egypt and I saw the pyramids and this haor Temple I saw that um The Spence facing to the East and then the lady comes back following year after all this this was in 2013 is when I really got that message from her because that's When I was asked by the Pentagon by two Air Force generals to put it in writing what she told me and uh I did and this was on request from NASA a friend at Nasa so he

come and got it and hand delivered it to these generals and she told me that she said that when the star of regulus she called it a red star when you look at it it looks blue but she said when regulus is red on the horizon in front of the Gaze of the spank before Daylight so other words when it's sitting right on top of the Horizon before the sun comes up that that moment would Mark a change and Humanity's knowledge and that's and she showed me other things War us bombing Iran aspam Syria and

in them days none of that had happened so I put all that on on this piece of paper and now I've had so many write me back oh my God you see that just bombed Iran or Iran just bombed us you know you Were right the whole time and I did that in 2012 and so what they did was I gave them the date of 2026 because they took that that celestrial event and ran it through these machines that showed that exact alignment will happen in 2026 Easter what will happen the star will the alignment

she told me me about that the SAR of regulus would be on the horizon in front of the Spinx at that moment there'd be a new knowledge well I Had no idea if this was even possible you know but these astronomers run it through the machines and it comes out that that star is going to come up on the horizon in Easter of 2026 and and from that point forward they started remote viewing the state government did and now you hear it all over TV 2026 that's the big date 2027 that year something's going to

happen Armageddon you hear it all over you know you hear hear it on TV If you if you study like um I've heard even well I won't say names but please do well you know Lou alander right Lou was mentioned that day a lot of people have Easter 2026 well the year 2026 I gave him the specific time and it was with Robert grant that I told him about this alignment and all and he's like oh my God he's been looking for this Ruby this little Ruby you have to find and place it between the

Pauls of spins to make This event that he knows is going to happen in 2026 I said Robert it's not a Ruby it's the star of regular he looks like he's like oh my God that's it's the king star so what's going to happen I don't know but I think it's possible that's the that's uh the return of Christ yeah or the lady and the whole Heavenly Host living with us Jesus that's the first time I've ever said that in my life Publicly you're the first and a million people ask me this I think it's

entirely possible that uh cuz she told me she told me this she told me that when the suffering of man comes becomes too great that they're going to stop it and they go snuff out the darkness that's why the military and government all want to know about this because they know it's real they know This lady has been seen a million time and when she comes she's always warning of some big catastrophe in the Native American World they call her The White Buffalo cath lady and she would come warning about some tribe coming to to

to kill everybody or some big event it's in every culture that way but I'm as you know I wish I know more what else do you know I just uh I think we're living in the worst the The worst possible times right now that uh if we don't make some changes there there's going to be some disasters about to happen and it's manmade it's not solar flare it's not any of that it's it's it's h it's a dark force cuz she told me well I tell you what she told me this is what I put

in writing part of it she said there are people in power I put this in writing in 2012 she said there are people in Power and I'm not going to say where she focused my thoughts on that but they're script in the Book of Revelations to bring about Armageddon and the end of the world they're doing it intentionally and that's what she told me and that's the very thing I the main me of the whole message I sent to these jist so it makes sense right who is they I don't know who they Are I

think they're Satan I think of people that worship the dark force that uh don't care for Humanity in human life and fact they're the total opposite of you know worship the devil or the I don't know if there is a devil I think it's a it's a it's a very dark force that is living full of dark entities that feed on you partically like um they' be non-physical the they they shape shift they take your mind over they make you Do crazy things they deceive you make you kill somebody go crazy where the the phen

the the Angelic world or the physical beings they can come in here and light these beings are made of light the dark force is a parasitic race and whoever is aligned with that is according to the mother the lady um is script in the Book of Revelation did want it to happen why did they want it to happen I think it's it's the dark for us I think That they want to Snuff out God they don't want us to have God in a heart why do you think they did Evolution that's the biggest dumbest thing

I ever heard in my life that that uh that every living thing come from a mud puddle and it can't happen it's just not possible that's just it's a laugh it's a joke you know what I find interesting is from the very beginning when you saw the Being that that your family and initially you if I remember correctly thought was just a medication right you had some type of an intuition from the very GetGo that this was a guardian angel of some type Y and it's natur it has progressed I knew I had one when

I was 10 I just knew it I knew something saved me cuz the doctor's like you shouldn't have lived through this if I showed you the hole in my back And the lead in front of me right here you but how did this happen is that close to my spinal column I'm leaning over a bit is that close to the back of my head and directly in line with my heart and I knew I knew the doctor told me you're the luckiest guy in the world and all I could think then was it wasn't luck

it was something protected me in fact in my regression 208 if you heard the regression I said They said we were with you when you were 10 years old and we'll be with you right on you know what else I find interesting you are the only one to my knowledge that I've spoken to on this subject on the UFO subject that believes in Jesus Christ I do wholeheartedly more today than I ever did that openly talks about it yeah more today than I ever and that's been a problem of censorship and uh kind of put

me on the back burner and keeping Me at Bay publicly yeah it really has I'm not surprised I'm not surprised when that but I i' never told this message about what you just we just talked about until now because now I think it's the time to tell it 12 years 13 years I've kept it secret only my family there what do you think that day is going to look like if you thought you had to it says in Michel in that Glorious and beautiful day he's coming back to save us all do you look forward

to that day absolutely do you have any fear about that day I fear my children and these crazy people that just just can't get a hold of their whatever they're doing I'm 60 almost 63 years old I've been through 11 or 12 presidents and people my age and your age but especially my age everything's happening in now is Completely not normal and we all see writing on the wall we all see the players some of these players there's a lot behind the scene um that we SP you know they're hidden but we all see something

ain't right and and there's got to be a cleansing and the only thing that can change people is God and the phenomena can change you inside but there ain't going to be no change of Humanity without having some spiritual thing come in and changes from the inside out and that's what's coming and there's nothing nobody can do about it they can squir and squirm and try to make it look negative and ugly all they want but it's not going to stop what's coming according to her and in the Book of Revelations in the very last

chapter it Says when the Army surround Israel on all four sides that he's coming back to fight the battle and rid the world of evil and then there be a time of Peace thousand years and that's what the lady told me same thing I said a lot thank you for sharing that oh oh lot 18 years I've never told this or 17 and a half years how does it feel to get it out Right right I'll get a lot of blowback from this I promise you I just hope the the world that has been told

is the devil can wake the heck up and see that a little bit of Heaven's coming here to help us would you be willing to come back on this show I would love to yes sir I'd be honored I could go deeper but um I think this is a a good part to end this interview uh but with that being said I would love To get you back cuz I have a lot lot more questions but I know it's been a rough day just say the word and I'll be here thank you Chris I promise

you know there's been a lot of speculation on on if UFOs are strict strictly a some type of spiritual entity or if they are nuts and Bs or if it's both there's a possibility there's both but uh I haven't seen the Other side a whole all these years experience has been with the the the the phenomenon I call it um is a spiritual thing it's like magic they appear out of nowhere in fact Tim burette made a quote and I saved it believe that the the uh interdimensional world would be the the angels and so

if there might be some star Cruiser coming from some Planet some far away and stopping over To to resupply and get some gas or something right but I can tell you there's not a reason in this world an alien would come down to the river where I'm crying out God help me why would he even care why would they want to help me why would help all these other people even animals because they have compassion for us and um and love I know I already asked this but I do want to ask it again and

I just want To hear what you personally think I mean if 2007 to 24 we're talking almost almost what what 17 years now yeah why you what is it that you believe that God saw in you in that moment of time lots of people look up I think that the phenomenon or God or whoever knew that I'm the kind of person that would never back down never ever look at Paul in the Bible look at all the apostles every one of them they knew what they knew and they went to death For it they were

boiled in oil and tortured and crucified and hung upside down and dismembered because they knew without a doubt Paul on the road to Damascus it says and a flash of light flashed around him and blinded him it was an orb the ball of light and that's exactly what comes out of the sky and interacts or comes into my house or around us this is the light and it answer ERS to prayer how do you Pray I pray to the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit the the Holy Trinity how do you ask do you

just talk to it is it ceremonial no it's a thought I could I don't have to say a word I can think and they come they're connected to our thoughts 100% yours too they know your thoughts they know all of us in fact I believe every every body has Guardian Angels probably at least two and I've been quoted saying there's 15 around me at all times my kids are like how do you know that Dad cuz I constantly see there's about 15 of them that'll appear and sometimes they do it all at once so I

think you have them all you got to do is acknowledge it I know I have them you do I've talked about it several times on this show and given very very detailed examples and uh next time I'll share those with you I Want to hear that I really do but well Chris what a man thank you thank you thank you for what you're doing and um thank you for being here and God bless you brother I appreciate you show so much appreciate you too we'll see you soon God bless thank [Music] you no matter where

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