JACOB PETRY ''OS MISTÉRIOS NÃO REVELADOS'' - PODPEOPLE #201

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the contemporary world with you Jacó Petre [Music] Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of pod people, a place where we meet to see and hear people People who Make People What happens are people who inspire our guest today are a writer, philosopher and researcher, his name is Jacó, everything is good, my dear, oh, what a joy, what a joy, Look, it's hard to find each other But we did it, we're here, right, no, thank you very much for your presence, it's a pleasure to have you here I can hear you and I'm sure I will

learn from you, but I'm sure I'll learn a lot today before I start, my dear, I wanted you to tell me what are the goals for 2025, as we're at the beginning of the year, 2025 is going to be a year of being more present, right, state of presence And for that, lots of trails, lots of walks, lots of trips, lots of things happening, lots of walking, also literal, right, I think walking, I love it, I love it, I climb mountains, I go for a 3-hour walk, how wonderful, how wonderful, and for that, all what

kind of clothes you You use my trips Yes, I'm going, I go to The mountains of Utah a lot, uhm, in the heat there you go, you take the lightest thing, it has to be something that doesn't heat the body too much but that protects the body, it has to be comfortable, that's basically it, and there's It has to be light , right? Very light Because yes, yes, and uh, and also even in the suitcase, right? ecologically correct has the technology that We call it temperature adjustment because if it's cold it heats up a little

bit if it's very hot it cools down a little bit Wow, PR, that's wonderful, it's wonderful and that's not all, it's not very minimalist and with just a few pieces you can create different types of combinations that go I can leave you in any environment, so for example, this outfit I'm wearing here today is the same as I can leave here to go shopping, I'm talking about women, men, it's easier This one on top is a favorite of mine that's wi suite which is a piece that is good for you don't know what temperature it

will be, but it can be in a cold air conditioning place, I throw it in, right, and the Skirt that is there is a skirt Look how interesting, there is still a little place for us to put some money there a cell phone and being able to spend all day, which is here, another one, I love it, so there's PR for men, there's one for women, the pattern of the trademark is the Tech t-shirt, right, it started with the black one, today there are several and you're going to win wow now I left on lro

open here open here open Here this one is for you to put under your jacket to absorb all the sweat You can wear it all day It's light, it's really comfortable, right? It's very comfortable and there's a Tech shirt that I put in blue because of your eyes Ah, I'll take a photo by going up one mountain, I'll send it to you, please, then send it to us because that way I'll joke here with the people that I don't have yet, there's some underwear that's wonderful . who also uses it, thank you, thank you inside,

thank you you because that's how I pack my suitcase, the only sure thing in 2025 is that I'm going to continue traveling a lot, going to a lot of podcasts, doing a lot of talks and my bags will have the insider's clothes because it suits me in any situation and I Always like Saying this, I already used insider before having a podcast long before, so when they became partners because it helps us a lot to be able to maintain the structure Being able to call people, I told people what a thing, you know, I didn't

imagine that that would happen one day so I wear insider because I already wore that for me, it's a peace of mind, thank you, I'm going to use it too, for sure there's a really cool thing about it, which is the technology, it also doesn't absorb water, so when water falls it tends to repel it and it also does the same thing with the sweat evaporates quickly, no, without with sweat, no, the sweat, no, doesn't stay on it, those stains on the chest, so when you start to sweat, it doesn't appear, and that one over

there, so that one for you to put under your blouse, there's no way to make that pizza, it's at Sometimes you go to a lecture and you put this underneath it doesn't roll, there's no way pizza rolls, no, no Bru, it's not worth mentioning that you don't need to iron it, it's quick-drying, it's also excellent, I wash my panties in the shower and put them out to dry the next day, it's fine , so when it's time to get some ironing one week in São Paulo, which happens a lot, I take eight Little pieces to

come, oh, we have the People coupon that will give you exclusive discounts, take a look at the website because it's worth starting the year with this, this reinforcement of your wearing insider It's cool, man Darling, let's go, you got the little gifts, there's more later, okay, I wanted you to tell me a little about your journey because you're a guy, I always accompany you, you've been around for years and you always give me great peace, I confess that we converges in several aspects but I said Am I enjoying it just because he's saying what I

also think, no I continued I continued because then I was also listening to myself I said no that 's not it And then you started bringing more and more things I said it's not me I really want to talk to him, learn from him too, so how was this path to philosophy, then the writer speaker, and this thing about searching for the human essence that is consciousness, it's a path that, uh, kind of happened by chance, I for example, sometimes people ask me why you chose philosophy, I don't know, I don't think it was me

who chose it, I think it was she who chose it because you see, I lived very isolated, my family lived very isolated in the interior of the country. Rio Grande do Sul yes, but very withdrawn in the countryside uhum So I didn't have access to books. To get access to books, I had to either ask for it at the municipal school, which was a limited library. I had almost read the entire library. And then there was a public library in the city, but it was an hour's bus ride away. I couldn't go all the time

for sure and then I went to the library and there was a man there who was the library attendant I don't know who he is um I don't think I know if he remembers that too but I said you can't take more than one book because it was a book I could only take out one book at a time so I said I live in the country It will be a while before I come back and And then He looked at a row of books like it was an encyclopedia the great thinkers then he said

of those there you can take two because no one took them exactly they were gathering dust taking dust there and then I took them that and it was about great thinkers but I was 14 15 years old and as I really liked reading I started reading philosophy Under those circumstances and it wasn't those great thinkers they weren't even whole books they were fragments of books and a compilation of fragments and there I I started to study philosophy and I fell in love with philosophy and I never gave up my love for philosophy but it wasn't

something like that that I decided, it wasn't the man from the library was what we have here Léo exactly but I think it was a kind of scheduled meeting, no I know why but it was kind of programmed because I could very well have said no, those I don't want or don't read, but when I started looking at that I became fascinated with the world of ideas of thought and questioning, things like that, very disruptive. how cool eee it was So, yes, then I went to the seminary, I had to leave home, I went to

a seminary to study to become a priest. So, did you want to be a priest or was it that thing of taking advantage of all that knowledge, access to knowledge that the seminary gives me, then even reading your books? I think I discovered that this was a bit of a mistake on my part so as not to have a feeling of guilt, I said that I wanted to be a priest for myself, I understood so that I wouldn't be alone There exploring that but deep down I think I knew I wasn't going to be a

priest but it's a bridge so I took advantage and the interesting thing Bia is the following that in the seminary we had to work two or 3 hours in the afternoon in the morning we went to school first prayer then you went to school and then you had to have lunch time for a brief rest Then I had 3 hours to study and then they put me in charge of the library oh right then there was little work to do I did it quickly so I I always had this very close contact with reading the

books were again choosing and choosing me it seems that was it then I went to philosophy college even though I was still in the seminary, not half in the seminary and half out there was a moment when I left the seminary And then I wanted to follow the career in journalism, but I also studied international trade, so I'm trying to find something that I understood with the money that would make you self-sustaining, it was a necessity, exactly, because people also said to me that no one makes money with philosophy, and if they could, see what's

happening today, Right? you could see so many there, professor Lucia Helena carnal and so many others there who are denying this, right, the world preaches Pieces on us, thank God, life is always more surprising, that's right And that was it, but hey, you said, you have to support me Yes, I will have I wanted to find something to make money, so I worked as a journalist for several years, advising politicians and everything else, but my interest was always very big and was the issue of cognition and when I talk about cognition I'm not talking about

of what it produces knowledge how we relate to knowledge one more thing you work hard on Bia is why we are such a privileged species and suffer so much Why do we suffer so much if we are the most advanced species, the most privileged, right Why that makes us the sickest species, I think that human beings suffer a lot from psychological illnesses and everything else and then this question arises, how do we create our reality and when we talk about reality, we don't is is how We created the place where we live the salary we

earn but how do we create our Mental state our psychological state because our reality when we talk about creating reality we immediately think about creating material wealth but the most important thing is how we feel about the relationship as we we related to ourselves and that took me to a lot of research and research and then I advanced a little here and then I jumped and went to that side right away, a very exact process, even because I don't like it and then maybe you'll find it strange that but I don't I really like something

very structured, organized because I think it conditions too much. I like it. There was a time when I used to teach classes with a hammer in my hand . paths like this for what I need to understand what I need and often the university within the structure did not provide me with this and I had many conflicts with the University system but I love the University environment, I like it, I just think that you cannot be embedded within a structure eee needs to walk through it I think it's there to be questioned Whether you're talking

about it I totally agree I didn't think it was anything strange if I were to be the doctor that my college at the time uhum would graduate me with I would be chipped eh I think there is a restlessness among those who like knowledge, it's like, I don't even know what I want, but I know that I want more than what is being presented to me, restlessness is fundamental for us to move forward, I agree and it is very typical of self-taught people restlessness, right? I think I always say the following that one of the

things that is fundamental to wisdom and life is curiosity. You have to let yourself be pulled by curiosity , right? I'm not at all curious I'm very curious about some things so I think you have to let curiosity lead you in a certain way It's risky but it's almost worth it How to have the discipline to follow the paths where curiosity leads you Exactly because in order not to get lost you have to have a little discipline, right, study persistence I see the kids So start studying oh and then play aside Because Oh but there

is no conclusion life is not conclusive of course not and sometimes people talk a lot about I ask me how do I overcome procrastination how do I create discipline how do I say Oh you have two paths either you try to impose this on yourself, this is difficult or you choose a path by which you are automatically disciplined and I saw this a lot in myself for example I am a procrastinator but I procrastinate things that are secondary to me I understand perfectly but no because I called them secondary, for example, I always joke, there's

a film that I've been procrastinating for six months to watch, ahem, but there are those things because you always have that which is primary in your life and then of course it's dangerous because Ah, but I just like it. of playing video games then you have something dysfunctional in you because life is not about playing video games life is not life it is more than the passivity of some things, right so I see this a lot in what I truly am disciplined I think it's difficult for people who don't like to read, there are a

lot of them but I don't think they've ever tried either, I think there are A lot of people who don't know, I don't like, I don't want to know, I'm angry at people who know, and distractions, right? because the world he calls you one of one side on the other side there if you don't don't hold on to it I sometimes make the decision tomorrow morning I'm not going to answer anyone but then when you see it I'm all messed up But you're saying something that made me sweat, right, Jacó, a lot like that when

that is within your meaning of life and I think that meaning has a lot to do with these primary talents that we have and don't even know, for example, I like reading, I like knowledge, or ppes fell into the pool if felt at home, right, so I think this is the meaning felt is almost identifying what brings me a comfort that I had never experienced doing something Uhum And I think the purpose has to do with how to take this meaning of life and put it into practice uhum to be better and to add to

life from other people so I see this when I can I'm exhausted but I love what I do and every time I catch myself like this I'm procrastinating it's always things that don't have to do with my meaning and purpose when I have to rest for two hours and then I'll do it like this It's a selective procrastination uhm right you choose the path that is connected to our primary talents I call it a predisposition no if people say oh I'm not good at anything there is no one is born good at something But a

predisposition is born with the trend, but I have to expose myself to life to experience where I feel dressed. There are no things that dress you. You do something, you say it like this. People, I felt comfortable. This is an outfit I play with a lot. clothes dressed me but this applies to varied activities exactly and this is what is the primary Talents sensor Uhum is when you do it you feel a comfort Uhum which is different and let's see if you agree I say there are three things for you and keep an eye out

to see if because that's where these primary talents are The first is the ease of learning why Because you don't have the same facility to learn anything for some you have a greater facility I, for example, I always joke but it's true the math teacher he presented a problem to Solve, I had difficulty seeing where the problem was really what he wanted to solve where the problem is there I can see So I'm not inclined towards mathematics and I do n't need it, so you don't need to focus on all areas but I have this

facility of reading and writing so I went through this area so firstly you have a greater ability to learn to understand and the second is this element that I mentioned before you have to be curious and you can imagine if you have the facility to learn Do you have one Curiosity enhances a lot and the third would be like what you said I can do this for several hours without getting tired if you have these three elements you have you have a primary talent and it will work out, right you will be able to develop

this And then People often ask but I don't find that And here comes the question of self-knowledge , right ? observer of yourself, right? I always Say that we have three purposes that we have to focus on one is primary one is secondary and there is the Supreme the primary purpose it is focused on being that is why it is primary who are you in essence it is in Essence no and there is a danger in that, no things about you that what is about you is no longer you it is about you who you

are in essence truly This is the first purpose this you have to discover you have to engage with it This is a journey of a lifetime but it is wonderful and the second purpose so it is secondary because it comes after that is the doing so what am I going to do when you Know what I know that I am is when you know what you are the tendency is to make the perfect being emerge and then the Supreme purpose is the dance between the two between being and doing this in my concept is the

ideal human being but tubi and tudu is exactly tubi tudu is tubi tudu is eeee so I see that many people they don't understand anything about the primary Purpose they only focus on the purpose secondary when you don't know who you That's why it charges a very high tax because Because you disconnect with who you are and this disconnection creates a feeling of incompleteness of satisfaction a feeling of permanent lack something is always missing and as you don't understand anything about being you believe it's missing to have there you seek to have and there is

no problem in seeking to have but if you let yourself know who you are if you don't use having to try to make up for exactly the lack of knowledge of being you capsize I say that is what sustainable success is Many people achieve material success yes, but if she doesn't have the primary success of being who she is Uhum, she's going to overturn because the person doesn't support, doesn't provide support, it's because the foundation is missing, the foundation is lacking and she and she enters that uh heh circle in the cycle the vicious circle

of more and more and more and more but the moment comes when she has so much that she looks and says But what's the meaning of life I have everything I dreamed of but even more so that should make me happy and I'm not happy On the contrary, right? the time you increase the levels of studies show anxiety disorder clo depression and chemical dependency exactly because you look for escapes exactly like I Can't be happy so I put a chemical in my happiness I put an addiction I put it I put it And I get

depressed this happens much more than people and you said something so cool while I was answering the phone I always asked a question Who are you uhum it was very interesting because I did that with teenagers I did it with adults uhum everyone starts like that no I'm a doctor I have a company I don't know what I said no no who are you I didn't ask I didn't ask what you do If you have the person no I live in Leblom no I didn't ask the location you know people described everything except who they

were Oh people don't know it's unbelievable that's why I think it's cool that you say that because then there is no possibility of us doing any trail if we don't have this awareness because I always had in my head that whatever happens, the only person who will be with me from the first moment to the last will be me uhum yes yes yes and if you cannot meet the basic needs, eh, basic needs of your self, eh, you can't do it, eh , you look for it in others. work exactly for the other person to

make me happy look at the weight that this unsustainable is an unsustainable weight and if if of being in the other is eee the worst thing is this is not the only thing I hope you make me happy are the consequences of this why Because if you make me happy when I'm not happy I blame you exactly and if you make me happy I'm afraid of losing you so I already feel afraid which is already unhappiness and if I'm afraid of losing you I try to control you all the time all the time which increases

the possibility of losing which makes you run away from me you understand Exactly why you suffocate me is right it is all points of misunderstanding and which are born from this absence of meso knowledge of oneself I think this is so fantastic and so Element Uhum And I keep asking myself why we don't teach this to children because we don't know, maybe yes, but maybe in a playful way, children are more creative, yes, if you can talk in a way that they understand, like, what The The universe gave you a super power, so you're here,

in that sense, they would start looking for it sooner, I think, and you know why, of course, you know, but why are children more creative precisely because they haven't yet completely lost themselves in this conceptual world? who is the adult if creativity is lost it comes from a deeper dimension than mental conditioning when we get stuck in conditioning Conditioning is already a condition but a condition than a condition that we love from the past if it is from the past it obviously cannot be creative, right? We experience small lapses of creativity when you combine an

old idea with a new one, but aaa that Insight, right, intuitive creativity that often emerges from the void of nothing, right, like Einstein didn't say, I think, think, and nothing happens I stop to think about what I I was looking for it to reveal itself to me, this is beautiful to me, it's poetry Yes, it's pure poetry, so the act of thinking it's just a stirring in the water, right? And then you calm down and things emerge, but if you're lost in this, in this mental hubbub All the time Eh, what is the conceptual world

That We created where you judge everything you evaluate you label And then in a little while you get lost in it I see that I see that it is one of the biggest problems of human being cannot quiet the mind and I wanted to ask you, you talk a lot about TDH, what is accelerated thinking ? you know the speed of thought because when I was a child I thought that everyone understood what I was saying and I spoke so quickly that people didn't understand anything so I arrived Look, I did this, I don't know

why there because an avalanche of thoughts was so much so that I could speak five subjects in one phrase and I remember that my mother said it like this breathe breathe what do you mean and my parents are teachers because I arrived already saying a fraction of the conclusion that was going through my head afterwards And then the years passed once I went give a talk in a company that was an old telephone company in Rio de Janeiro and Then I did it every month it was an education system uhum I arrived at the end

of the year a little lady arrived oh I brought you a gift I must have been about 23 years brought a gift from you my daughter how wonderful I wanted to tell you something she was already retired I think what you say is very interesting but I'll give you a tip from someone who has lived speak more slowly so we can understand you mix several subjects but you don't end up with one you amend the other one if you adjust the speaking speed you will be unbeatable I went home and spoke for a whole year

she wasn't understanding anything but she was there and then I saw, for example, she was a person who was for what I wanted hyper focused always on what was the selective procrastination I always lost my house key I always lost objects but not once but always but I always remember as a child my mother where she is I don't know where she was there she gave me those thumbs up that had the name on it I was going I never knew where it was stop I lost so many glasses I lost so many things so

I started doing checklist rituals if I'm going to travel I make a checklist of how many volumes I'm taking Because leaving a volume in the middle of the way was normal Uhum So this is a faster speed that at the same time I came to understand that it brought me the creativity that I so longed for because what is an idea, one thought crossing another, right, you can have if I have more thoughts, a greater speed, the probability of one thought crossing another increases then people say Oh, okay, it's more creative, yes, but there's also

a lot of stupid thinking, you have a greater volume of ideas But overall, you have a greater possibility of these thought traffic jams when I saw that it was exactly that way of working that gave me this thing of seeing or foreseeing things I said That's good, so I took what was good and started talking, but what caused me dysfunctionality was losing everything, talking and people not understanding anything because I talked about three topics in the same sentence and I started doing it, no, but I can decrease here then I started training myself to speak

in such a way that the other person would understand And then I started organizing because that's the only way I started to write and then I discovered that I Had to write everything until today I write by hand, right, Bic pen BIC Yes, I do it too this is because after I went to withdraw when I necessarily write slowly, slowing down from here to here uhum I can't write at the speed I think So I started adjusting And as I started adjusting I said, man, it works, it gave me a feeling like, whatever, why do

I have this, this doesn't It's more of a minor importance uhum right Uhum what matters is that I 'm going to take what's good and exacerbate it and what brings me harm I'm going to learn to deal with so this was a battle so there are people who say that to me Oh you are ideal the TDH I don't I idealize it wasn't very painful, yes, I, I, f, but today I say that it's good that I have this functioning for you because it brought me wonderful things at the same time. I studied and watched,

I talked to people, but it's not like this happens here, I even went to consult Jacob, I made drawings, I was talking, I was here talking to the patient, I was writing, I was drawing, Look, You see, this works like this and that already it was a way for me to slow down and be able to connect, so this happened a lot to patients when I went to pick it up at the end of the consultation Oh, let me throw away this paper, no, for the love of God, give me this paper, yes. Then I

said, no, I liked it, I 'll take it, I'll go Then I had a teenager who, the following week, I made a mind map and I said what a mind map is, teach me how to do it. Of course, look, you get the idea you said here, that's it, I said damn, that's a cool thing, so I asked my teenager to teach me how to do the mind map and I taught how it worked and it was exchanges Ah, I was never ashamed to say, I don't know, it teaches me to this day, I think

that's a big advantage too, so that's what TDH is, but first of all, it's a kind of funcion CBR as there are several others, right, I asked this question precisely because I've never had this type of problem and then it's difficult for you to understand when you haven't had this experience, but I attribute this, a little bit to me. I see that I had a lot of contact with nature from an early age and in nature you often Force yourself to break this continuous flow of thought, which is what it is, perhaps what it is,

accelerated thought is an Exaggerated flow, so what because it is not accelerated, it is an increased flow, it is It's an increased flow that things see more or less like a lot of water coming out of the tap. Not exactly that, so I guide many people to this because I was even watching your lecture the other day and you talked about how recent our history is. It's true then We human beings homo sapiens sapiens It's very recent, but even more recent is this migration from nature to the city. You can't say that a city like,

for example, São Paulo or any other major capital is nature, it's an evolution of what once was nature or involution I don't know about involution, this is involution, but then I say the following, human beings weren't made to live in an apartment. I'm amazed at how we managed to adapt and not go crazy once in a while, right? So you go to a natural environment, it helps you in so many ways, people have problems, for example dealing with death, I say, go to the forest, it happens All the time and you see the harmony that

exists between what decomposes. and the beauty of what decomposes and what emerges from what decomposes then Eh nothing exists forever and it's strange that we are scared of death to be afraid of death because why is it a very natural cycle and it also comes Eh these fears they also come from new always and I think this is the basic dysfunction of the human being this disconnection with being with life because we in Essence we are life eh people think that the opposite of death is life the opposite of death is birth you is born

and dies life is eternal so exactly that's why Jesus said it like this Sometimes we don't understand that in the environment in which we learn about it we don't understand that when he says I came so that you have life and life in abundance And then my TDH came in when the priest said this I couldn't stop thinking that I wanted to see but I already have a life how am I going to have more life than I already have uhum and that kept torturing me and I think That's how the researcher, the provocateur, was

born, you give space to these things, right , and one day I said man, eternal life, what is eternal life, it's not eternal life, after you die, life is eternal all the time, so if you connect with that which is eternal the entire time it is there you manage to have a base that is a rock that doesn't change then things start to aa aa you start to have space to reflect on what is impermanent to feel things coming for you to enjoy for you to enjoy But also when the time comes you let go

Yeah, but we don't when we find something that makes sense No, you want to immortalize that, it's like you could, right? And you're saying it's fantastic, I always say that, I think death is a stage of life, uhm, exactly like living, I think. we have this a little we homo sapiens like this fear of death I think animals don't have this fear then they will say oh but they don't have consciousness I think so because the elephant withdraws To Die you see the movement they calm down no I don't really agree that animals uhum are

things like that ah no they don't have feelings they don't have to have life always pulsates in any cell is you imagine in a being Uhum I think that at some point The human being took a leap in his frontal lobe in his ability to accomplish and he forgot that he is part of nature he is not the owner he is And then as if he is the owner I don't want to die the others die but I don't die uhum even the carelessness he has with other animals right eee with his own species and

with his own species So I think this was at some point, I think the technological revolution was very bad because it gave this illusion of power Uh, in reality, I don't think we can do that much, I think we can make a rocket that goes to Mars, I don't know what but it's not realizing how to make a better life here, in my head, it's really crazy to spend billions of dollars to see if one day it's going to change, what qualifies this planet is why would you want to look for a better place if

you can't even take care of this one that's perfect, right? That earth is perfect, right now Mars I don't know where you wanted it It's okay but I have I have a stunning planet that we can't take care of so it stays Let's go to the other one when this one ends It's as if you had the habit of break everything in your apartment and kick everything out of throw the Prats against The wall and then when everything is broken on the floor they say I have to move out of the apartment this is no

longer useful for you because you broke everything exactly so I think we have this illusion which I think is an illusion right, and you talked about eternal life like that. I never thought that life would end when when I'm about to die, I'm going to die because some people say that when I die, not when it's not going to happen. I'm so sure that this will happen, I just ask like this If I deserve it, there's still this, let it be an hour of Lucidity uhum because I want to live this moment uhum like this

passage, right? Oh, I can't resist Uhum, I can't give myself up, just like I feel when someone gives themselves up, I don't know , a mother's lap. I said, I don't have the slightest power over her, um, and so, what I have is to live and try to live as best as possible because I think we die how we live and if you're living well, yes, you'll die well because It's a stage in this life you 're living and the person you ask yourself but what will happen next is speculation from all sides you you

eh and then eh People say Oh I'm a Christian Ok so if you are a Christian Then follow the teachings of Jesus He said Why should you be anxious about the morning death is in the morning why would you be anxious about it, right? Live today and there's this passage, I love it, and studying the teachings of Jesus, I think that if it's the New Testament, right ? I can understand and I'm not saying I can understand but I managed to understand a lot of things that console me, but if you can understand what Jesus

wants to say, you can solve 90% of your life, but you have to understand what he means, for example, that passage where the apostles were concerned about the things of this world where are we going to sleep what are we going to eat if we are going to walk around talking to the Crowds we have to eat and then Jesus said eh if you live He didn't say that he said Look how the lilies of the field live look how they live the birds of the sky, what do people not understand? If I say Look

at how Ana Beatriz lives, what am I trying to say? I'm trying to say, look at how you live and maybe live like this. the lilies of the field and how the birds of the sky live and the father of heaven will take care of you there comes a whole question first How do the lilies of the field live the birds of the sky and secondly what the father of heaven is for Jesus you can never presume that what you think is what that Jesus thought you don't have that proof oh no the father in

heaven is a bearded man who lives in outer space I don't know where he's going to throw your things, I don't know if Jesus believed, in fact I'm almost sure he didn't believe in that because when The Samaritan woman asked who God is He said God is Spirit not a spirit not the spirit he said God is Spirit is not matter exactly that's it It's not matter it's not matter so if you live like the birds of the sky there is something immaterial that will provide for you just like there is something non- material a

spirit that provides for the animals and then comes this question How do birds live How do they live they live deeply rooted in the now in being existence there is something bigger than them Taking care of them and then comes what you said at some point we come to believe that we are a species above all others and we are the ones who have to touch the world on our own and use all other beings at our pleasure and we disconnect from everything, we are no longer part of the Whole We We no longer live

like the lilies of the field, nor close to that, right, so when you start to question yourself about who you are, self-knowledge, all these questions come into the equation, acceptance Ah, you don't resist everything that happens and we are excellent and resistant to everything we resist to everything that we don't want As if life were an experience where we have to be pleased all the time it doesn't exist you wake up in the morning you look outside it's raining then you complain that it's raining but you don't get excited either when is it the sun

you wanted exactly eeee when there is the sun and the sun is very hot we also feel it because it affects our mood it affects our performance it affects us we have a very narrow and very personal notion of how things should be and we Want everything to be this way and that's why we suffer so much because we don't accept our condition and to think that you know what's right and what's wrong within a much larger context to even deal with a disease, right? sweat a cancer which is an extreme thing, I know many

people who had cancer, they cured their cancer and looking back they said it was one of the best things that happened to me because it totally changed my understanding, I value things that I didn't value before, so you can say that that cancer was a bad thing altogether Of course, no one wants to have cancer, no one needs to have cancer, but I'm saying in circumstances like this, it's much better for you to accept and deal with it From this acceptance This is reality, what can I do than you say oh why did this happen

now just with me now because with me now now that I was going on vacation right now that I was going to retire Right now that I fell in love right now that I was planning to have a child personalization is just with me, we've already noticed You must have Noticed this many times, how we think that our problems are ours alone and that's what I say to everyone in my life, it's a wonderful experience, but for me it's a college, we're okay. here to learn the test It won't make the first year easier It

could be the test that I'm going to take at 40, um, because I'm going to take it and it's ok because you're preparing for the more difficult tests, exactly, or do you think that way or forget it? You're just going to suffer, you're going to make a Suffering Pact, uh, one thing I watch you talk a lot, you remind me of a mix of Vitor Frankel and the Stoics Uhmm, you drank from these two sources I studied a little ooo vctor eh eeee a little bit of the Stoics eh Although I I don't like the

Stoics because because the Stoics they preach a bit of a denial of emotions uhum I understand but I'm saying it doesn't need to be the essence but there it is inspiration, yes and there's no like my philosophical line the Stoics are a very interesting school that thus had its apogee in the modern Dade of stoicism in Marcus Aurelius, exactly who was perhaps the only politician, the only Emperor who really was wise that I Know of, understand, And who had epithet as his exact teacher, so Eh, I see this issue of stoicism is present in my

speech, but I have a small nuance that I would say, so everything I say is disconnected a little from because stoicism they work a lot like that , the coldness in and I think the coldness in the face of everything, it kills one thing that makes us essentially human, which is sensitivity, uh, I like to believe that emotions are produced by thought, thought produces emotions, ah, but there are things that I don't think about and I feel very strongly, many sometimes this is a mental assumption you ex oooa belief it is so deeply rooted within

you you automatically think that you don't even think the reaction it is instantaneous there is another thing that I don't know if you will agree with me but I believe that the suffering that we feel throughout our lives when he is not faced and dealt with properly he leaves traces in us traces of Doro is and and but but no not as if he were rubbish because the rubbish he he is a thing and dead aaao suffering the pain o waste that Remains is energy and energy is life, so you go as you suffer and

you suffer intensely and you don't deal with this suffering. You accumulate a body of Suffering energy within you, which is a body of pain, it's almost as if it were an entity that lives inside of us I understand what you are saying so you have this heavy energy and this heavy energy it can often be half asleep half latent but if some trigger triggers it you become extremely violent because all that pain it emerges and And then you attack you and then you later you look at the destruction and you say my God how did

I do that Okay But it wasn't you it was all that movement So this is another emotion that is born from Suffering that you created And then there is another thing Bia that I think are not emotions but that we often confuse with emotions, that's not scientific, there's no way to buy that there is something in us that we confuse with emotions and that we pursue but that are not emotions, they are natural states of being and that you can only feel when you access your natural state which is that Deeper essence for example thought

cannot create true peace true peace it is a natural state when you quiet the mind when before you can only feel peace when you kind of transcend thought when you calm your mind you open a channel for yourself feel peace love you can't love with the mind Love is a natural state and when you're too caught up in the mind and when I talk about the mind I'm referring to this in the head this mental movement that also, you know, suddenly the mind concept Yours is different from mine, no, no, but that voice, when you're

stuck in it, that voice, it will get attached to someone else, it will fall in love with the other person, but it's not true love. Maybe it can be called romantic love, because love is just a word like God is just a word like eh the word is not the thing in the word it leads you to the thing Ah you believe in God Oh I believe in God and you Do you believe in God yes I also believe in God so we both believe in God, let's go there in a bit, but what is

God to you? ah God for me there ah you don't believe in the Same God that I believe then the conflict begins eh God is just a word what exists beyond is that we use as a reference to God as a reference to God then true love He it can only be felt when you access this deeper dimension and that's why the basic doctrine of Jesus is love one another but how are you going to love someone who you think you think you are beyond thinking this love? love is that and said that One little

he said love is not something you need to create that you need to seek you just need to eliminate things to get to it so what it means to eliminate these things is to eliminate a little the concepts the labels is you think that the other has to be how you think he should be because that, for me, is selfishness, eh, selfishness is not living your life your way, selfishness is wanting someone else to live their life the way you want, live that is selfishness, you can live your life Life as you want, so what

happens? Eh these natural states of being are what we long for that we seek that we have so much difficulty finding why Because we look for this in things out there Uhum right we think that we can only be well when the world around us is well If it's perfect, it's perfect, it won't happen And then we'll never be fine, I think life is a big journey inward, right? And we keep taking it outward, right ? basic emotions because for example fear uhum fear is a thing that is a basic emotion I say that it

belongs to the functioning of the brain that has nothing to do with consciousness or Nothing to do with my Essence I have a material body and it obeys uhm material laws uhum yes, gravity I am subject uhum at the same time I think that my consciousness is not subject to any of this uhum right The feeling that I have that time and space after I am no longer matter will be beautiful because I go from one side to the other simultaneously with nothing to hinder me I have this feeling but I think it's difficult for

people to understand because they still think they are what they think Uhum And there are many theories that talk about this, right, it's the classic go-kart phrase, right, I think, Therefore, I exist, in fact, you exist a lot before thinking that's what I think uhum right so how do you put this to people because there are people that you say like that take away people's thoughts it's not possible for me and they will never access uhum this sensitivity which is the immaterial sensitivity uhum This is the big problem but I think that now you're back

to your pre-meeting stage with that lady who said it's a lot, you asked the eight profound questions that if they were answered would solve the world's problem that we think, right, no, but you gave and asked several questions within one question eee I've put everything together but let me try to answer all of this well, fear is fear is a basic feeling Okay, but there are two types of fear in my conception of fear in my studies there is instinctive fear, yes, that is fear, it is ingrained in us Because we are animals, right, fear

as a reaction to an immediate real danger exactly I'm walking in the forest I see a bear a grizzly there staring at me it's a fear that I need to feel because the body will prepare itself or to face the bear which I don't recommend It's not a good idea or escaping which Also doesn't have much of a solution uhum and but this is the instinctive fear but the instinctive fear Bia is not the problem, right how many times in your life will you encounter a bear then there is a psychological fear which is fear

subjective that you are lying in bed and everything is fine, right, the husband on the side, the wife on the side, the children sleeping, everything is silent And then you start to think and your adoe Understand Uhum So this is the psychological fear the psychological fear It comes from our relationship dysfunctional with time in psychological fear and you you're never afraid of the past or the future, you're afraid of something that you imagine will happen or but it didn't happen or you didn't understand so what happens to the past it's not The problem with this

fear is it is your imagination of a possibility but there are infinite possibilities that can happen and many will happen and when they happen you will know how to deal with them so it is a dysfunctional relationship with time because there is something you can do now in relation to the fact that maybe you will or won't suffer a plane crash in the future you can't do anything so that's dysfunctional if You come if you lived like the birds of the field you would be rooted in that moment you instead of being stuck in the

mind you would go back inside the body you would feel the vivacity of body, life throbbing inside the body, pulsing, pulsing, and this is an experience that few people have and it is very rewarding, right? area of ​​Psychology and you know that if you don't inhabit your body it's like you abandoning a whole house, all kinds of insects and things are taking over now if you inhabit it then you inhabit your body you feel your body you be there for your body doesn't just go downstairs, right, many times, when I did this it was so

funny, I started to feel my toes, I had never felt my toes unless I hit the corner of the table on the wall, you understand, yes, so you start like this, everything is there pulsing, everything is pulsing And then ooo the other question you asked about the question of consciousness the question of thought there is something from Sartre's quote eh no not from Sartre No first from de de de descart descart said eh I I think therefore I exist so here he he he he equated thinking with existing but a century later Sartre said the

consciousness that perceives thought is not thought so what exists today something that I have been studying and practicing for years which is the awakening but what is awakening I'm dying to find a conflict between us we don't think it's difficult since Awakening for me is you separating mind and consciousness, right It's seeing yourself be the person The Observer who observes your thoughts That's it then but that's also a thing that you have to be very careful because thought can be divided into two, right? So you have to be very careful to truly be that silent

witness The Observer because consciousness is not thought, it is a state of presence, it is full attention And then you are there people say but how am I going to observe my thoughts you just have to be present for the voice in the head there is the voice before there was only the voice and now you start to realize that there is a voice and the funny thing is that when you realize the voice for a short period of Time the voice disappears and then it returns new, right, because it's a strong impulse that will

steal your consciousness, but if you practice this, right, if you do this, you can gradually access a field that is much broader than thought and then you begin to experience what I call the natural states of being, okay, you don't see the person anymore, you kind of get the person, they become Transparent, it's like a lamp, right? You have the cover, the dome and inside there is the light. We are all light, which is life itself. but when you only see the dome aaaa dome the cover is ass light that permeates all the wires and

connects everything It disappears So you seem like you are an isolated fragment in space in the world full of conflicts and that's where a lot of our anxiety and worry comes from, right ooo you you can't and feel connection with nothing and then you get into this feeling of lack of need And then anyone who shakes you, you grab it because you need that shake And that's when you start to become a victim of the very world that you created, right? explore you manipulate you why Because you are very very Needy very open to all

of this Why Why are you desperate looking for some little thing that gives meaning to this meaningless life that is born from disconnection with everything and everyone, not with ourselves, right? we prin But that makes sense profess Total it always made sense to me with I always said when people talk like that no but my thoughts I said ok but hey tell me your thoughts Oh I think something bad is going to happen ok ok ok OK, I said it, now look from the outside No, I can't, you can, for example, if I'm driving a

car, someone shuts me down, a thought doesn't come, I want to kill this creature and quickly you say that's it, that thought, that's it, he's strange to you uhum uhum At least I don't identify myself with no thought of violent resolutions that goes through your head, I even guarantee that it went through Gand's thought. At some point, but the point is that my conscience doesn't hold on to that thought because it's not me. When you find a thought strange, it's greater proof of that we are not that we think exactly that if we were, the

world would be much worse Uhm much worse and And here comes this question eh Okay but then an awakened person will no longer have emotions such as resentment such as hurt our human side our our human dimension it requires this you you have emotions you The difference is that today my resentment lasts 3 minutes before It lasted 10 years, understand Exactly exactly, they don't dress you anymore, I always say that, they don't dress me anymore and there are things like that, of course we go through situations in life We hold some momentary sorrows but I

have something with these feelings that when someone comes to me wow but so and so who did this to you I look at it like this I can't even remember It's as if I had uhum it's passed you know or when someone and it's not because I'm pretending otherwise that somehow uhum disconnects from me in a way that I say like this my God in heaven It happened like this Sometimes the person has to remind me is eee sometimes the person says something Because today we are very exposed on the internet when you have a

thought a little like that, right, people they often attack you uhum and one thing that I look at I say the following, What does this person think about me that led them to say that because they are not attacking me they are attacking the image she has of me of you exactly so I don't need to affect myself, I ask her what image she built of myself and that she is attacking now and that she is unhappy with what she created, right because I'm not the image this person has of me but it's logical I

ask myself, somehow I showed her something, there was someone who told me the following days, I said, I tried hard to listen to you, but I said, oh, that accent, no, I can't stand that accent, as if the problem was the accent, but look at the conclusion she reached she said then I saw that it wasn't the accent it was what you said that attacked me of course it was always that, you know, so I also like what people think we are in a way that is idolized. of idolatry is also totally wrong I always

receive things from all sides of hate and terrification and sometimes I say, I'm not like that at all, sorry to disappoint you Ah, but I'm not, if I were a tenth of everything you imagine I was, I wouldn't be here anymore I Had already crossed over to the other side, I go to a place and then Ah, but you also do that dis But where was it said or or realized that I don't do that, right? People have this a little and always at the poles, right? either hates you or idolizes you when we are

all on the same base some are moving a little more towards the Light others are a little further back but everyone is in the same queue uhum the queue is for everyone it is for humanity it is exactly me me I see this a lot, it's accelerated by social media, a lot, right ? please correct it I have one feeling that we had moments, I always talked like that, every 10 years I reinvent myself Uh, it was like a life cycle for myself and I didn't plan when I was in that movement, uh, nowadays I

say that today this lasts every two years, somehow this technology this thing today makes me have a movement of change of adaptation which maybe is uhum this perception In what sense are you talking about this thing about The networks bringing this this issue of change or adaptation I I I said that when I said that it even becomes dangerous, no, it wasn't in that sense, that's right, but it was more in the sense that you lose yourself in wanting to become what people think or imagine of you because that's going to be a problem, no.

for people but for us and I see a lot of people doing this in the search for this Essence each time it will be a lot it will move away it will move away ex Ah instead of instead of diving inwards eh it starts to move towards the inside it goes towards the ex and it inflates and inflates Then comes the moment when the very people who led you to this idolatry will turn around because the human being within this normal and dysfunctional condition in which most of us live and I think that the human

being is still somewhat dysfunctional. They love to elevate you and then sacrifice you and crucify you. Like they did with Jesus, it's exact. It's a lot. I want to end you because it ends my problem of having to improve myself and even an Unconscious bargain I'm on your side but if I ask you for something you have to answer me if you don't answer me I'll turn against you exactly that's very common in the human essence I had a situation for example, on the podcast the person asked Do you believe in God and I said

no and he asked What do you mean you don't believe in God I said no because and Believe when you believe in something it seems strange to me to believe in God because when you believe you also in everything you believe You may have doubt right, no, if you are sure of something you don't need to believe because you are sure, yes, so there is this issue because of that I don't believe and secondly because believing is an attribute of the mind to believe or not and when you believe Do you believe in what? It's

not an idea that you built from here, it's this idea, it doesn't come between you and what's beyond the idea, right, as if it were a curtain like that, so what happens, I don't believe in God, I feel God, I feel him as a presence as a truth as he is the foundation of all things, right, eternal life That exists beyond all forms of life subject to birth and death So there is something Eternal in us that is God I feel it but I don't believe in it so it would be I feel it therefore

I exist it is and I don't I think therefore I exist it's very much now here comes this question that you asked that many people say that you are what you think this in a way is true in the sense that what you truly think you start to defend you start to create that self conceptual is that there are two thinkers Chileans Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela they have a theory of Santiago's theory of cognition and there they defend the thesis that in the same way as We create tools over time, a stone ax, bow

and arrow, this is the same ability, this same ability we we use it to create a self apart from what we are So when you create a conceptual self you start to live this conceptual self an example I am incapable I am not worthy of being happy I am not worthy of being loved I am an ugly person or the otherwise you start to live that but you are not that that I call that false self you create a False self a distorted mistaken idea of ​​who you are and then you come to that idea

it becomes a kind of filter through which you see the world and all your desires, aversions, they are determined by this false self and that is why we, in my opinion, have this dysfunction, which is this disconnection with who you truly are, a little, eh , Here again come some theories mine, if you don't agree, you can say so, but for example , F there are two types of knowledge, there is conceptual knowledge, you can study everything about a tree, you know the size of the fruit that gives it age, the fruit that gives it

is wood Anyway, everything you can know everything about the tree but you don't know the tree You know everything about the tree you may have never seen the tree you can study 1000 years Honey motherhood you will study motherhood you know everything about motherhood but you have never been a mother in the case of the tree there is this knowledge and have the direct knowledge that you simply eliminate all the concepts and you simply look at the tree contemplate The tree you will see another tree you Will see something totally different that's why eh eh

going back to this question of God I think eh we get used to having concepts having a conceptual relationship conceptual right, when you ask people if you're watching us, I'm going to ask you when you pray, when you pray, you pray to someone you don't, it's for an idea that you have in your head, a concept, right? Eh Jesus said when you pray, close the door to your room Pray in secret that the father who It's in secret, it will hear your prayers and will answer you, but look, 2000 years ago, the houses in the

East did n't even have a door in the room, you know, and he spoke figuratively just so that people could understand that, so go in, close it, lock it, silence it. mind is And then pray in secret that the father who is in secret means feel the connection with him feel The divine breath Vital the vital force in you that is in feel this And then it will serve you but it does not mean that you will have a home dream car leaving of this but what you expected to receive with the car and the

house which is Plenitude abundance the feeling of peace of security this will come and when you feel full when you feel Abundant inside this will also manifest externally Oh why in the material world it could be that it is some kind of material supply and if it is not also supplied you have already had the benefit exactly that is why when he has that very strong passage that he says eh to those who have more will be given and to those who do not have even what he has will be taken from him but he

No, he is not talking about having on the external material level, he is talking about the one who is connected with everyone who lives abundantly and fully, he will have more because there is a deepening of this. It is like a connection with a greater source, which is life, which is life, right? It's life, you're talking about this thing about the concept of God, I've never been able to have any concept of God, even though I believe that he exists, that he isn't for me, he's not something materialized human, but I wouldn't know how to

describe it because God is so complex. but so complex if it is difficult to describe nature imagine Uhm, there's no room for descriptions, I don't venture to describe it because it's immense, it's so so so so much the energy that creates what you look around And it's a shame that today we don't Have that thing of looking at the starry sky where we can see each other. disconnected so much, right, that you don't see this immensity like this, I'm not able to describe I'm not able to describe neither a planet nor a system nor the

solar system nor the galaxies can you imagine describing Who created me I collect myself saying be like V is such a supreme energy source Well, I often meditate because I don't breathe through pulsation from the heart, that's what it means to feel the inner body , and I put this in my book Happiness, everyone, you do a meditation here, that's what I do, I 'm not saying if it's correct because at the time it starts to pulsate, you talked about the little fingers, I feel the little fingers, I feel the cell if it pulsates and

there is a certain moment when I am no longer a body, I I'm someone who vibrates, which is what you are exactly, right? So people, but because everyone does it with breathing F Ok, okay, I even believe that it can also be done, but I need to pulse , I even advise it for those who can't do it yet. Those who can't meditate don't need to do anything Fancy , As they say in English, nothing extraordinary, pay attention to your breathing, just observe, right? breathing when you breathe and you pay pay attention to your breathing,

you already calm your mind, you don't need to do anything, just pay attention, but what breathing means is life, right? or not you have to feel the pulse You have to see if he is breathing if life exists then what happens and that is the big problem of humanity the life that exists in us It is at least 50% of our existence because the body it is important functioning of the body so in material life it is important but when you don't feel life in you you have forgotten 50% of it you understand but about

this issue of conceptualizing God that this is already something that Thomas Aquinas said, right that you can't eh eh define God and the reason for this is the following we talked about this at the beginning God is not matter he is immaterial eh I always make this reflection What is inside the room and People start to say oh there is a sofa there is a light has a computer has two There are books but the most important thing to me is not the most important yet then you start looking no one notices emptiness Uhum So

how are you going to define emptiness empty is just a word but define emptiness you can't define emptiness So you can't define life oh no you can only feel oh you can't you can you write a thesis about life no you can write a thesis about the manifestations of life but life what are you going to write about life right so what What happens is God is the same thing, right? That's why I think we still have a long way to go in terms of evolution, where are we going to evolve from conceptualization to this

direct knowledge where are we going? This is done through the evolution of consciousness, which has nothing to evolve in consciousness because consciousness does not change, it is there but the evolution of consciousness would be for you to evolve until you understand that you are consciousness and not what happens within that consciousness, which are Sensations, thought, perception. In other words, you are consciousness but you are not mind, yes because the mind Is a manifestation, the mind is thought thought is a manifestation because if If you were the thought just the thought you wouldn't even know that

you are thinking exactly you alone you wouldn't be able to observe yourself it's exact you wouldn't be The Observer of yourself but as I know that consciousness is greater than thought because you can observe thought but you cannot observe consciousness in the same way as the mind is superior to the body you are superior in the sense so you can observe the body with the mind But you the body cannot observe the mind so what happens there are these levels see, then we are already starting to have a discussion and maybe not I wanted to

enter but what happens to us our body is animal the mind is rational Consciousness is above the rational it can be Divine or spiritual transcendental it transcends And then when we make this transcendence life starts to make sense, right? Because now you can you live now can you think before you were this incessant mental movement that you had no control over now you observe Now you have people say free will exists yes it exists But that doesn't mean you exercise it exactly this is a conditioned reaction ex exact exercise another another story another department that

I have to observe myself, right, to exercise an arbitrator, otherwise he doesn't exist and to observe you, you have to separate yourself, right, because if you 're immersed, you can't observe yourself, yes, from the Outside, perfect, Bru Let's put some books there by Jacó, let's go there creativity day writer Jacó Petre states that creativity is a skill that can be developed in the book, be unique, what this book brings to us, dear, be unique, it's an attempt and I wrote it in partnership with Valdir binin, who is Gisele 's father , of my great mentors

throughout an important phase of my life, right? He's a philosopher, he's also a sociologist, he's a sociologist, a great figure and he's unique, he's exactly what the support line says, the incredible advantages of being different because it's often what you said at the beginning, no, at the beginning, it was another video that I saw, and no one can be like you, and that's where your great advantage is, it 's not in you, your power, it's not in you wanting to be like the others, so you even had a very strong movement a while now a

little has passed which was the idea that you need to model someone modeling it can be dangerous because you can be inspired by someone but not want to imitate someone modeling meaning meaning means in my understanding you want to imitate and when you want to imitate you will no longer be a copy of that you are so there we point out a series of points about how to value your strengths that make you unique, right, and one of the aspects of uniqueness is the way we perceive the world because that is what determines at the

end of You consider how you are going to deal with the world, so what makes you perceive the world the way you do, we are going down these paths, not this thing where we observe ourselves, it is a luxury object, there is nothing like the other, I live I see people saying Oh that's exclusive Us too We are, perhaps, the most luxurious object that nature has produced, there is nothing more important and nothing like you and what I said before, I'm very humble, no, humility has nothing to do with it. with this You need to

look at yourself to understand what is the flower that wants to bloom what is the fruit that you will bear a being of nature What is the call of nature ex ex I always believe Bia that we have a singular talent We all have and we have a unique way of expressing this talent Uhum So for example singular talent I Know How to Sing there are several people who know how to sing but in your way only you only you and then a third point there is a need in the universe that only you can

supply with your singular talent and the singular way of expressing there is this void this one and you came here to fill it and if you don't do that it will be empty it's the bold ones rule the world Do you believe in that the boldness I think is a very powerful energy is you have it make a move of faith is the boldness But it's you have that I don't know you Telling me this, I felt a sense of faith and boldness means the following if you look at the people who really managed to

live such a full life, at some point they had to take a step like that into the abyss to see if there was an edge. Invisible or not, but if it hadn't been, I agree, they would have fallen, but there is always that flight you have, you have to go to the top, no one flies, it's on the exact ground, you have to go and throw yourself and sometimes it's Abyss, very, very, very good, this one, this one metaphor if you want to fly you can't fly meaning to be exactly It could be that it

goes wrong, yes, but if it goes right, it can also be really cool, right? So, those who dominate the world are the ones who dared and succeeded, but generally it works, I think the majority of people do business, it's just that people don't believe it, it's don't follow the teaching of Jesus, right, trust, don't trust, they want want want there's something that I call the wisdom of Uncertainty there is no wisdom in certainty ever so man you have to learn to become comfortable with what is certain which is the only thing What we are certain

of is the uncertainty of time everything that is right is in the past n I've already lived this I've experienced this so it's true if you repeat this it will happen the same as it happened in the past I don't know I don't think so but if you think you already know because you already did it and you didn't it worked so you're stuck in the past if you're stuck in the past there is no evolution there is stagnation aaaa H regression Because nothing stays static you the clock is ticking but you are not leaving

the place it is exact So you have to have the wisdom of Uncertainty And then I do these books assigned Dom min in the world be singular they always have three elements three pillars not three elements in each chapter a thesis that I bring say oh I think that's it I bring examples for uhum deç speak in favor of this is what they defend so it's a lot that's it is umis researches a bold thought with examples and scientific studies that prove in some way what you are thinking, I really like this, it is a

process in this line of work, whether or not we have the 16 laws of Success 16 laws of Napoleon's success Rio is Napoleon Hill he wrote eight volumes of a broad study he did called the Law of success uhum the pillars of success are the laws so what happens there I studied these laws of success for many years It's purpose, master self-confidence, the habit of economy, initiative and leadership and so on, there are 16 laws And then I said, man, it's a volume of this size, I'm going to bring this in a More accessible, modern

language with current examples for people to know. This is and what was the definition that you successfully exercised your full self, but no, in this case, it concerns personal power, uh, understand, imagine this is very focused on the professional issue, I understand, so for example, of course, at the end he starts talking about concentration, but it's basically professional success I have a small formula that is in this book that success in life in any area is always directly proportional to your level of personal power, for example the success you have in educating your children is

always directly proportional to your level of personal power to raise children, I understood and the What would that be? This personal power is the sum of two factors: aptitude, what you are able to do, and the attitude, which is your way of thinking, uhum, oh, so I know, but I also have an adequate mentality because there are, for example, professionals who are very good, very capable of doing something but the mentality is all weird, as they say, you know, you can't transmit that or share it with others To the point or you're dishonest, you have

a character problem, you want to take advantage of everything, you know, you're a good professional, you knows how to do things like no one else but is not trustworthy he is not disciplined he does not promise what he fulfills these things which would be the attitude right perfect next Bru we have this one there is also this one it is still power and manipulation modern version of Machiavelli's The Prince That's it I wouldn't have the audacity to say that right That last sentence was the publisher that put my How to understand the world in 20

lessons extracted from Machiavelli's Prince What happens Machiavelli's Prince eh Machiavelli wrote this book there in 1500 eh he read the situation of the city states at the time of the Roman Empire at the time of and And then what happens in the Roman Empire not in Italy and what happens I studied this book for a long time and I understood that Machiavelli he captured something there that was kind of lost, which is the nature of the false self, which is the false self, when you are a person who needs recognition, you need power to supply

something in yourself, you will follow this path of manipulation, you understand, this does not Mean that every person of power is a person manipulative but it depends on how he exercises his power, right ? But this is very common, so we work on things like what is best to be loved or respected, how to deal with kiss-ass, these things that he had a lot of, which is very current Of course, nature super current human nature, right? He saw this very clearly, right? But clearly, yes , but then there's this whole historical aspect that doesn't exist

today, right ? I took 20 lessons to try to understand the world today and how it works apply it in your daily life is there any other book you want to tell us which is the main one the obvious one that we ignore the obvious one that we ignore Bru is it otherwise it is it is not there is it here this is the most recent This was the first This was the first This is a classic, the obvious one that we ignore, how simple attitudes can make you successful in everything you do, perfect, it's

there, it's a whole treatise on, and it starts with the question of talent in what is a talent Why talent is important it was written in 2010 and how do you polish your talent Because we don't know is our talent these things are essential Liv for you to give meaning and purpose to your life at the time I was a critic, let alone education system, right Why Because I think I think I'm still almost certain that the school, no matter how important it is, it confuses the child a lot in relation to what their strengths

are and what their weaknesses are Why Because if you are a genius at mathematics you will have to leave mathematics aside to study Portuguese that you don't understand that you don't know that you don't want to know so what happens you who were a genius in mathematics you stop studying mathematics and you will study something that you You don't like that you have difficulty, there are several factors, first you used to like studying, now you don't like studying because you have to study something you don't like, second before you thought you were intelligent, now you

really can't, you have to understand that. you also lose the notion that man I have a talent I'm good at that, I have to focus On that and that turns a genius into an average one into a mediocre one . I think, right, I'm here thinking that these are those standard students who are the US, the Nerds, the CDFs who are good at everything, right, that little colleague, yes, you will meet them in the future, they are not the most creative people, suddenly they are even successful in In terms of materials, but no, they are

not those who opened a path who did something that, as if the education system is programmed to leave everyone average, but it is, it is much the same as you, because it is not so much the intelligence that will make you have results are extraordinary in life, let's assume this way because there are many people who were not so intelligent but built empires, okay, it's much more a matter of a combination of countless factors of countless elements and among them is self-confidence, right, you need to trust and believe in what you It's good and that's

what it's for and you can never to have extraordinary success in an area that is your weakness, exactly, you understand, so, I see this issue a lot, you can improve, but you can always, but that energy that you will spend To improve something that is not your uhm, uh, meaning, right, your essential talent, you it's going to take it from where it should be being applied, that's what I say, focus on developing your strengths exactly and manage your weaknesses so that they don't become a problem in development, work on that exactly perfect development So that's

yours, you'd say your book talks more about your thoughts, This is what I like most, the firstborn, the darling, the darling, yes Bru, let's go to the pipinho reporter, the pipinho reporter, is the pipinho reporter, we have a community called sustainable human beings, and the pipinho reporter is the time when we gives voice to this community that today has more or less 2300 people and 15 days before you, we said, Jacó is going to come here, here is his Instagram @jc, you go there, you search without following, ok and send any questions the episode has

aired you can feel free to follow and interact, do whatever you want, agreed, agreed, we can start first, the skill is something innate or it can be trained and Developed, it depends on the skill, that's what we were talking about now, right? It's I think maybe the right word wouldn't be skill it would be maybe talent is something innate that can be trained and developed and talent is an ability for you to train and develop some activity from it with greater ease than other activities or even than other people so So there is the natural

talent Uhum which is something that is natural in you and there is a pseudo talent which is the acquired talent which is that person who does not have this natural ability to learn in this area but with a lot of effort and a lot of discipline they became good at something then she has a talent for it, but it is an acquired talent if she had invested the same energy at the same time the same discipline in Talent essential talent she would be there at the front understood everything is possible but then it can be

natural talent it's an innate thing, right? You're born with it, maybe I don't even think about it in early childhood. there are some stimuli in the brain that make some connections and others waste away, exactly This makes you, who are a doctor in this area, understand yourself better than me, this means that you have some natural innate ability to do calculations or to play music or for esp that an education that does not pay attention to this, for this search for essential primary talent, you can prune that, right, or you can improve that, help that,

if you don't develop it, it's a potential that has been lost, exactly why it's so important for parents to have this notion, right Uhmm next Bru how to discover our natural talents to choose a profession that motivates us is motivation, it is never in the profession, it is in us, right? so motivation, as we said before, you cannot expect work to make you happy, right, there is a job for which you will have a greater passion, a greater passion, then the motivation comes of this passion but not of work I need to find a job

that motivates me motivation is in you and the work that motivates you it is also in you because it is linked to your talent I use an example Bia of the WiFi signal Talent is like wi -fi if the wi-fi signal if you are close to the router The talent is the router if you are close to the router browsing is nice you are certainly motivated now if you move away you don't get it right it keeps that bu spinning and falls then you say oh I'm going to give up So that's the question now

how you discover these talents, I think we talked a lot about this, you need it and uh, talent isn't something you discover, talent is something you notice in yourself and then Bia said back there, you have to have a lot of it, sometimes it's Try playing, right? Go in, do something, see if that's it, See if the clothes are comfortable, right? There's no point in waiting or just doing vocational tests. OK, but you have to look at yourself, you have a base. you next Bru how to deal with negative thoughts and anxiety starting from your

approach to the mind Ah, but that's it, Bia S answers me, me, I would say, how to deal with it is, firstly, admitting that you are not your thoughts, it's me, me. Obviously, right, but the practical part, if you can do it, is to come to the present moment understand why this is all you have this is the only real thing ever Believe in your thoughts understand don't take Them so seriously ah V anxiety Wow I'll never be anyone in life I'll never have a child I 'll never have that never Relax No, the person

says but me I'm going to have to live my whole life in the present moment no you can't live D you can only live now in the present moment it's always been like this you haven't noticed Yes, if you have anxiety about the future or anything, come to the present Come on, because anxiety is just a displacement, you want something that you don't have yet, you know, you have an important test tomorrow morning, why are you anxious now? this moment because you can't go to the future and you can't even anticipate the future and when

the future comes and you are prepared then you better sleep well You better study instead thing you can do now instead and negative thoughts are the same thing negative thoughts are a concern, right a concern also with the future in relation to something can come true or not So come to the present moment come here something I always say eh Brain is not good at doing two things at the same time this thing Oh I make 10 lies it's half- assed it was like I said no one understood anything because it can't be done, you

have to organize it. that calms down, right, and I think that for anxiety, when the person is unable to disconnect, they are unable to be present, they will walk, run, walk, go to nature, it is also the brain, if they are active in something, they disconnect from that, they will concentrate. energy to do what you're doing ex So this is a simple thing, right? I always said Ah, but I don't want to walk, but go uhum, even pay attention to your breathing, right, start, I can't run now because I'm in my work room too also

breathe two or three times the brain cannot do two things at the same time it is thinking about the future if you breathe You open a window of silence and it helps to concentrate on what is happening Sometimes you go to wash the dishes you concentrate on the act of Are you washing those dishes and another important thing? Hey, let's go see if you agree with me is not waiting to have anxiety to do these things because when Anxiety comes you are already managing the crisis and the less you prepared yourself for this crisis the

more intense it will be it kidnaps you so much of the anxiety you can eliminate when If you don't have anxiety, it makes sense to act preventatively. Obviously, you have one because then you have a reserve of health, let's say, it no longer comes with all that strength. You've already depleted a little. age, we have to make a mental health reservation also, right, very close, Bru, individual singularity is a central point in your work, how can we embrace our differences without fear, fear of what, right, well, I didn't understand the question, no, but she asked

the question, but fear of what, fear of what, when being different people don't recognize us you're afraid of being yourself eh What do you want to be so if you're not afraid of being who you are I have a solution to all your problems which is self-knowledge, right? in the case of not wanting to embrace differences if you are is very susceptible or vulnerable to other People's opinions and if you are susceptible and vulnerable to other people's opinions it is because you you don't know who you are exactly if you don't know who you are

any opinion any idea any concept any label that people throws in your direction affects your basic identity you wear, right you, if you are a doll of opinions, I bring another opinion, I change your identity, so self-knowledge, seek to understand who you are beyond the opinions you have about yourself and embrace that, right, because the only thing you have right too and the death that comes after is exact It is exact without fear of being who you are and without fear of dying because when you are what you are you did what you had to

do next Bru What does it mean in practice to detach yourself from thought So, in practice, you have to understand that you are not the thought and then this idea comes, it cannot be another thought, right? It cannot be a concept Ah, I am not my thought, I will create the other, so what I am, I am consciousness doesn't change anything you continue to be thought so in practice it means you observe you watch Not in the sense of chasing but you are here And there is the Rattlesnake which is the chatty snake so don't

judge Don't criticize don't say Ah I shouldn't have been thinking that at first because then it's the mind again that entered through the back door at first just be careful be present things will start to change by themselves if you are present thought loses strength it loses energy it will no longer control you and now you are looking, right? You're at home and have the puppy inside the house and you're not at home you don't know if you're destroying the sofa, you know , but if you're looking he starts scratching or biting you're going to

say no, don't you know, I don't want to destroy my sofa? puppy and take it but you don't need to say that the puppy is this pest I'm still going to donate it I don't know what because I have this puppy you understand why then you're no longer observing you're already conceptualizing it's fighting the mind if it's divided into two and one part was talking to the other exactly nearby Bru What is the role of the mind in education is the philosophy of the mind it is a study that has several ramifications and much Of

the philosophy of the mind studies the relationship between the mind and the body and there are several theories that discuss this, that's why I didn't delve much deeper into what exists, I thought, man, but that's not our idea. problem the mind and body relationship this science can explain much more because this is physiological this is neurological What is the impact of biochemistry is it is matter I advanced a little and then I went a bit towards a line of Ken Wilbur's which is a one American philosopher who is aaaaa separation as I said before of

the mind and consciousness because then you can achieve it and consciousness It is not something that aaaaa consciousness is not something that science studies a lot because because it is not a physical thing it cannot take a microscope and a magnifying glass and analyze consciousness so science has a bit of a q with consciousness but But we can through deduction which is a scientific process arrive at the existence of something greater than the mind and then how will you call it whatever, I call it consciousness, it's cool. So I think that in education the role

of separating consciousness from the mind is very important because it gives You the opportunity to use knowledge as a tool, I understand, perfect in thinking as a tool, I am he who thinks then I can use thought to my service and not being a servant of thought, which is what most people are totally enslaved by thought and it's interesting, at least that's a personal experience, the more you develop or feed your consciousness or connect with it, maybe it's more energy very interesting mental Enough but because hierarchically sometimes I have Sensations like an idea comes to

me something that I say like this guys this wasn't in my context It's like you open a portal I 'm not ashamed to say that sometimes that I I'm writing, I say, damn, what is this , but because I'm very disciplined to write today, you know, imagine TDH being disciplined, but I managed to do this, and the more you feed your conscience, the more it positively feeds your mind, but I heard it from you, I I even threw myself back because I made my day because I didn't even have much courage to say that because

of your scientific line of work you come From a good school eh You study science you are a scientist but eh I don't have it but I'm not blind well good good because I I I I have this so present in the way you said, conscience is a superior intelligence and when you are that's what Jesus meant, the father will take care of you, this greater intelligence when you give it space when you give up the arrogance of thinking you need it do everything you are this isolated fragment in space just you alone and then

you open it you used the word Portal it's the right thing because that manifests it comes to you for free and I keep thinking like this how much more maybe because age brings it to us this awareness of this, right? It's impressive and it has no limits that's why we are infinite and unlimited the mind the knowledge that you can store the reason all of this is fantastic But this is limited but the ability for you to open a portal for this consciousness to bring you I always said to my consciousness is an iCloud it's

there it's there and from time to time for some reasons and for practice I do wi-fi communicate And it goes down goes down and and that's fantastic I really wanted people to be able to experience this because then you're sure that this one what you call God I call the designer of the universe, yeah there the underlying force is underneath, behind it is me, I have this humility of knowing that there are times when I reason something that I say like this, thank you, thank you very much And then I want to take a minute

to make a reflection, which is fantastic By least it was for that, it's in the Bible there in Genesis when Adam and Eve lived in Paradise they were full and abundant because they lived in intimacy with their father in Paradise yes then God said oh I advise you not to eat the fruit from that tree for Why are you going to die and what happened? Adam and Eve, under the influence of the Garela serpent, went there and ate the fruit, but one thing I've always wondered about is why, by the water, this tree would be

called the tree of knowledge, because it is. is And why is the fruit of the tree of knowledge the fruit of good and evil And why loads of water when Adam and Eve ate this fruit first thing they saw NS, why didn't they realize this before And then there's one more very representative thing God can't see them he calls for them so what I understood from this is an allegory, yes a metaphor that shows that there was at some point a rupture a rupture with the creator but this rupture means We were not expelled from

Paradise because we only disobeyed but we were disconnected because because Something happened that made us lose because Adam and Eve did not die there but if God spoke then there was a death but this death was spiritual death when they ate the fruit what happens when you eat something in a certain way you become that when they ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge knowledge is never a problem knowledge is very good but when you identify with the knowledge you lose something you die to something which is this connection with this greater intelligence with

this greater force that you can call God you can call the designer of the universe you are just a name yes each one But the question is this so I understand so we suffer from this loss of this rupture that happened And then yes we Became Mortals why Because the part that is eternal in us was lost we stopped recognizing the father who lives in us the kingdom of heaven that lives in us that exists in us and we became totally human separated from the whole then there was a death, yes, we lost intimacy with

the father, who we were spiritually died, and then the whole movement of the bible is a movement in the search to rescue what was asked for, recar, which is reconnection with this part, reconnection exactly and salvation is that too, right, salvation It's not if I I'm going to make a donation to I don't know who salvation is for you to recover what you lost this inexhaustible source that you were once from eternity eternal life is exact we were once Adam and Eve it's us exactly all the time It's close Bru Do you believe that the

The advancement of Artificial Intelligence can threaten the human understanding of consciousness, right? I think artificial intelligence is a very dull thing, right ? is to write a book now you are going to ask Emotional Intelligence to write is Emotional intelligence Artificial Intelligence to write a book for you artificial you are going to go to Paris to New York or to São Paulo to see a work of art painted by Artificial Intelligence that is a totally thing dull, I don't even want to know, of course there are things, you know, that it can be used and

I hope it is used for things, but I'm like that, people, Ah, but now intelligence can do that for you, but I don't want to, otherwise you'll atrophy yours. It's up to me to do this and atrophy yours, right, we like to go eat at the restaurant, but there are some days when we like to make that meal, I made it, I want to do it, so like artificial intelligence, I think that if we don't take care of it, the entire sofa will increase our disconnection, yes. and this disconnection will increase suffering and suffering will

in the end lead us to consciousness because suffering only exists because of unconsciousness no one consciously chooses to suffer suffering It is born I'm talking about psychological suffering not physical suffering suffering resentment heartache the jealousy, envy, these are all Psychological sufferings, People suffer a lot because of this and this is all not a conscious choice Ah, I'm going to be jealous today, it's an unconscious thing, so the pain will wake us up. We wake up or listening to ooo pod people, right or we wake up with suffering with pain you can choose Look at free

will you have that choice don't you It's close Bru Jacó What defines the true self is eh eh we've already talked a lot about this this is the true self he cannot be defined because When you define you, you transform it into a concept, exactly, right? You stop feeling. But you can, you can only be the true you. So who the true self is is what you are beyond all your definitions. But that's not a thing. very abstract doesn't do that Feel the pulse feel life feel it and leave your thoughts a little connects you

with what we call it of the of the Divine embryo which is the breath of life, right, feels like life, Bia spoke of the throbbing of the cells, pulsating, right, the pulsating, feeling this, you know exactly who you are, this is a power, an extraordinary energy when you feel it a few times a day. right, once a day is already too good, It's just that you don't even put the battery in the socket, you live, you charge your cell phone but it doesn't charge itself, it's exactly very good. It's no way close Bru, there is

something that Western thought has not yet understood about the mind Ah, I think there is a lot that we have not yet understood about the mind, even we do, I know that science attributes a lot to a very close relationship between the brain and the mind, it's just that it's very different, that's what I said, no, it didn't make sense, no, the brain, for example, let's take a if, but there is a very close correlation, but like this, imagine a light bulb uhum, the brain is the light bulb, the mind is the light Uhum, it's

a physical structure, yes, where the mind is more the What I sometimes ask myself is this light, does it come from this bulb called the brain or is the brain just a reducer for a bigger light ? science has already proven this there is no way because science the scientific method is all prepared to prove material things and then the reader will ask but what is the proof of This you are the proof of this you are the one watching you are the proof of this you feel you know you know that it's real is

that Fantastic never I imagined that we would even agree on this, you ask , can you prove it? No, but I feel it, and I suggest that People feel it. recommends walking to strengthen awareness, we talk a lot, but one of the things that I like, there are several, but for me one of the most important things is nature, but not just walking. You need to observe, observe, It's because when you look at a building, that building was built by the mind the mind can identify what What you want to awaken consciousness is to reduce

this continuous flow of the mind a little Ah, between the thoughts there is an empty space Sometimes it's sometimes it's tiny Sometimes you don't even notice most of it you don't even notice But you can create giant spaces when you're in the in the middle of a city you see the lights you see the architecture that everything the mind is familiar with it so it can judge, cogitate and label it it Can do so many things but if you go into the middle of nature you are walking and you will see a butterfly you will

have a time lapse where you There's nothing to say, you simply contemplate Consciousness is the contemplation of the present, thought is the agitation between the past and the future, but contemplation And then every time you come across something you don't immediately have an opinion about it and the nature It's a lot like that because what are you going to say right away about a river that is flowing between the rocks, clear water then you hear the sound, what are you going to think, you have a little lapse of is Empty Mind something that I do

a lot for myself always live in places dark There are many people who observe the stars I observe the empty space that exists between the Stars I understand it is much wider much deeper in my emptiness it connects me with what is empty in me people say empty mind it is not the Devil's Workshop It's no, it's the opposite Maybe it's the portal, yes, exactly, so I want to create the empty mind, it's the portal of the divine, right, but that story about the Empty Mind is the idle person, right, no, and the person, connecting

that the person is what they Think so this is it sense but that's where I don't have much contemplation and I don't have much to walk in nature So you do the following you go into the body inner body Feel the body you can do this now right feel breathing right Hey you're washing dishes don't be washing dishes listening 15 things talking about feel the Sponge the texture of the detergent it can be the greatest meditation of your life washing the dishes Understood for sure So these are some very simple things you you contemplation, right?

You would add some min? Look, I think it's this thing of being there observing. I had a patient who couldn't even breathe even one day. He came to me and congratulated me, I said. Well, come on, let's go. It happened, I lit a candle, I was contemplating the light, then I understood what you wanted to say, I said, so the candle is your Portal, whatever, he just kept observing, put a flower inside the house, just contemplate without any judgment, just contemplate and it's incredible like when we start to contemplate for example, you have an orchid

there, you pass by and you say Wow, what a beautiful orchid and bye, that's not it, you stop At the orchid, look, try to understand its texture, see as if you had seen this flower for the first time, you will understand that you Seeing her for the first time was always a pass like this Bru We arrived at all the pipinho which is this pingpong, right the whole team and listened to our chat here and based on it they sent me words and phrases here to complete which is free Association that comes into your head

doesn't need anything sophisticated to let Consciousness manifest in the mind or manifest and this manifestation this is not any type of TR because sometimes people think that it has to enter into a simple di is who we are and we always have been, it's a more natural thing , that's all, I thought it was important to do this . another deep recognize your perfect essence It's three uniqueness is to let flourish your talents your gifts and polish and Touch forward and the rest will come is will provide will provide is four Complete the sentence Consciousness

is is a state Of presence a state of contemplation is the mind without thought five purpose of life there we have three purposes we have already talked about this inner purpose which is vertical inwards it is timeless it is diving into being secondary purpose which must emerge from the primary which is to do and this is horizontal and it is in time to do something you need time to be you have to eliminate time because you just it can be now life is now and the Supreme purpose which is this synchrony this harmonization the balance

between being and doing perfect seven not six happiness happiness cannot be a pleasure because then it creates suffering happiness is a natural state that you feel when you are in connection with what you truly are. I think I'm going to say, you need to read the book, not that you've already summarized it, but that's ok, and seven wisdom wisdom is precisely this download wisdom is different from knowledge, right, knowledge is a thing of the mind wisdom is beyond the mind you know you don't have both things they can be correlated but wisdom does not come

from books wisdom Knowledge is in books wisdom comes from this Portal that Bia said that I'm explaining a lot just by saying the sentence But that's perfect it comes from another of the greater Intelligence So you are a wise man because you have this Portal open and that if Man party you when you are at the service of this greater energy it is exactly eight if I could go back in time what would 20 year old Jacob say I wouldn't say anything because he wouldn't even listen to me it would be useless you go go

my son go Viber go do do nine resilience I don't like the word resilience because when you don't separate the good from the bad when everything is an experience in itself and you deal with the lessons that are embedded in what is negative it becomes positive then resilience It's much more that you don't judge, you look at the fact, you deal with it directly, you learn your lesson and you move on. I don't really like the idea of ​​resilience, like oh, you took a beating and you have to come back stronger, you don't even know

if this beating You just Have to follow and you don't even know if this shit is good or bad but you have to follow it, you have to follow it Logically, right, you will follow it because you will learn from it, right, perfect, and 10 a sentence or a thought can be from an author, it can be yours, it can be a message you want to leave PR people don't take your thoughts so seriously it's just a thought it's just a thought it will pass it will pass everything passes darling Thank you very much, thank

you very much it was a pleasure it was a synchronicity here that I already knew would happen so thank you very much for your presence I Thank you for the invitation, it was awesome and I think we'll have the next one, yes, that's it, close and prosperous , I felt more like I was having a conversation sitting in the room, chatting, but that's the goal, I tell people that afterwards the podcast was a realization of a dream that it was like this I want to reach one age that I want to start just talking, listening

and learning So really ISO is happening I'm very grateful I'm very grateful for this opportunity and so in a way I was so happy that I managed to validate some things, right because you're a person that I respect A lot that I admire a lot you are a reference I thought Wow I'm going there eeeee I thought it was really cool I don't bite but now there are some little gifts here for you happiness it's a book that I wrote in and you summarized my book here when you defined happiness will stay monotonous is not

good so I don't need to write it I say Oops this already exists and this is the latest release I say I wake up between 5:30 and 6 am every day and I stay in bed for half an hour and I always I ask that this greater energy that I don't like to give names to manifest itself in some way, either in images or in thoughts and there are 365 sentences from this moment, there were many more but we decided to select and I don't make any sentences so that you agree so much that there

is one share what Feeling brought you and you can make your observations in fact I always say Bia never Agree with anything disagree question and see what you feel because trust your feeling you see that here it comes oh feeling is the feeling know how to shut up then I I mean , I look at that, the first thing that's why I like to call myself A provocateur, I like to provoke, right, because I think you can't help anyone except when you break the person's mental patterns right elve So how is that you do this

and how do you create this small crack and in the beginning you are an Expert, right because the addicted circuit of Thoughts is because when the person looks for someone they don't want to change they want someone to reaffirm or or or that you fix the toys she broke, right oh I want my boyfriend back oh my marriage I need my marriage back but you want to change no I want my marriage back exactly and it's here and I called this a time for myself because it's 10 minutes mental self-care that I would be mental

care, right, people do skin care but they don't do mental care, right? There's the bracelet that we can put on and look at and remember, right ? your eyes that's why things were like this I was happier I'm playing but it's not over yet there are more combs here you can leave everything the children did she arrived early saw nothing but a lot, right no we always Do that oh we have it here a one is a notebook that This is where I tell us to always translate our thoughts so that when we write, we

begin to understand that the thought is not you and then you can look at it, a thought I won't take away But you can look at it, I think it's fundamental exercise that you said you did I did it a lot I still write a diary today which is so good because ideas don't come at a time when you look at it I wrote this I thought this no this doesn't belong to me So you start playing at being your conscience Oh, I forgot, this is an ecobag, okay? that we, with the pipinho and with

what we believe, do contain, be inspired because there's no point in making it happen if we don't inspire people. So if we don't inspire people at this point in life, it's time to leave, that's what I I mean if you're not qualified to inspire and here's a little mug you can drink your tea or your coffee whatever when you have it there in nature and remember the really cool people I'm going to remember this now what do you call this little doll I really liked the pipinho pipinho because he can pipo then he pipinho Ah

the pipinho of the do of the P do Pipo powder exactly Ah, you can leave this here and the children will sort it out because they are polite because to work here you have to be polite otherwise you won't have it, now you'll look at that camera over there For all your messages you don't even need to look for me So firstly I want to thank Bia for the invitation, right, for your kindness, follow her, right, if you're watching this podcast, if you see it on my social media, follow her, right, tap the bell here,

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