Jesus love demon but he doesn't like the thing that the decision that they made he can't do anything to stop him because their own decision reason why even now he thought he's given food for them he sustain sustain them maintain them hold on hold on he told you that yes I'm not I'm not the enemy for them that is my my my my children and the angel I remember a angel that supposed To be found he came near to me and start to laugh to sing he start to sing wait stop stop stop man stop
man for all human being there is always even Satanist agent there's already one Angel a good Angel that's behind and that angel is always keeping record he's always recording the thing the thing that is do that you're doing in your life but that time I didn't pay attention for that one but you've always Seen that angel but was always behind okay with always distant uhhuh everywhere that I'm going already there that angel was there yeah was there so that angel now when you decided to kneel down uhhuh he came wow yeah he came near near
and next to me mhm and start to sing and became happy I want to ask you something that a lot of people wonder about they wonder about whether or not Jesus looks like a regular person okay I want to say only for the people that They are seeing those those uh those pictures that is Jesus a white no Jesus is not a white person he's not and he's is [Music] black friends we give you thanks for joining us once again uh we're here with our brother Gabrielle esto who has shared uh some wonderful testimonies with
us so far about his life and about the things he has seen inside of Satanism when he was a part of that Before his conversion to to to Christianity uh before he was saved and liberated from that system by Jesus Christ which we give thanks for uh today we want to talk a little bit about um his Encounter With Jesus right it was a very long encounter as I understand it and we want to know more about it Gabrielle how are you I'm very fine thank you how are you oh I'm well I'm well I'm
well I'm well we're giving thanks that we're here another day to to To talk more about this this is wonderful stuff and people are being blessed amen you know people are being blessed you know what other what higher honor is there than to do things that bless people you know you know so um so yeah um so you know tell me something um you were in Satanism for the first uh I would say the first half of your life right yes and and um you had a personal Encounter With Jesus um he came into your
room one day When you were begging for him to appear and he appeared physically in front of you before we get into the things you guys talked about tell me something like how long was that encounter how long did it last okay remember can be more 3 hours or more than one hour and more than two hours is for because was long so it was more than two or 3 hours about 2 3 hours it's around there more than two hours for sure yes Okay and you know H how did he reveal himself to you
and I I know you you spoke about this in your testimony video where you you kind of explained you know what you were going through and why you asked him to to cut to save you if he was real cuz you weren't sure he you believed he was real right yes I was doubting right right so so tell me something did he reveal himself to you as just a voice was it just a voice or or did he appear in person and and and You know were you able to look him in his eyes okay
he appeared in person he his appear there in b not because I had only voice no I saw him I I saw him and he was talking to me he appeared as a person and I remember the first he said I came because you said you asked me to come he was asking you were asking that I needed to appear to you and appeared me I appeared to you Because you're asking mhm and then I'm here to answer your question that will I'm not imagination wow yes I'm a real person reason why I'm here because
of your asking only to say that Jesus is real wow and not only because you are reading the Bible or your leader is talking about Jesus is not real or sometime you are saying people can say no that Jesus not real but it's real is a will person amen yes I saw him with my own eyes and I heard the his own voice with my my head your ears so so you're not you weren't hallucinating no no one can get can get out that those thing that they had that they saw with my eyes no
one can say no that was imagination wasn't imagination I know what is Imagination right and I work in that side I knew what what is that M yeah because was working about the psychology I knew who was and who that one was in front of me mhm mhm and he did everything that we Used to do to others but he did to meiz my member my body that I didn't move yes when he started let me ask you something um we're going to get into some deep stuff but I I I I want to ask
you something that a lot of people wonder about you know they wonder about whether or not Jesus looks like a regular person okay does he look like a regular human being does he look like you know what I mean Like a lot of people think uh you know they have their ideas clarify for them what Jesus looks like and of course clarify for me because you know I've never seen Jesus myself in person I believe him and I serve him with my life but I've never seen him in person okay uh first first of all
I want to say that uh those people that believe in Jesus but even they never seen him those people are blessed are blessed people because they heard about or they read About in the Bible about Jesus they heard about J and believe without asking without any doubt in their mind they believe that God is Will mhm those people are blessed mhm even he said to Tomy mhm remember Thomas Thomas th say Jesus say ah you believe because you've seen it because you see you saw this thing now blessed are those people okay that they didn't
see but they believe mhm mhm those are blessed wow you can think that I'm more Blessed than no I believe that those people are more blessed those people that can see on they like to see before they believe okay and then what about Jesus what is the question to go to the question so I'll go back to the question but before I go back I just want to say I always tell Gabrielle you know man you're so blessed because you got to see Jesus you know you you got to see the great Creator you're imagine
you you're seeing the person the being the the you're seeing God I just can't even imagine it so you know every day that me and gab talk I'm always bugging him about man tell me more about Jesus how is he acting and stuff and I always tell him he's blessed so he's saying here now and Jesus himself said it blessed are those that believe just by hearing they didn't see it they didn't see me showing them the scars or The holes in my in my hands they're believing just by faith um not just because they
saw and so that is true not because you haven't seen Jesus means you're not blessed you know you're blessed because you believe even not seeing it that's what faith is really about you know you're believing it without even seeing it amen so yeah people want to know like how does he look like you know does he look like a regular human being okay good question Can we can go back to the question okay Jesus before I answer this question we need to go back about who who was before he became a human being right right
okay Paul said and Philippians M yeah Philippians mm Philippian Philippians yeah Philippians Philippians yeah Philippians yeah Philippians yeah chapter 2 verse uh verse 5 up to 11 mhm he said about Jesus there who was Jesus before and who who Jesus became and after he died Yes in that context I want to say that a lot of a lot of people saying Jesus like look like that Jesus look like that Jesus he became a human being and he become a human he will become a human being forever he will be a human being forever that is
true the Bible says that will be a human being forever mhm why because of Love mhm sometime you can't understand is Jesus God or not those the question for those people that they in secret society They know who is Jesus Jesus God okay Jesus God reason why he died because according to the great conflict who supposed to die only that person that gave the life for everything M for the human being who create who have the power to create the same one that needed to die wow yes he needed to die Jesus looked like he
a normal human being MH okay he became a normal human being but now his body is glorifying is reason why when he appeared to me his on light he Had his own light yeah on light light was coming from his body he's not normal human being like as now right okay no okay his own light the reason why in the first time that I saw him I didn't know who was that one reason why I asked my angels M the angel that was around me that were around me I asked who that one right they
didn't answer me that the way that I wanted that one only that one that died in the cross I didn't know who who who who was that one and then he Appeared to me the same person that I saw before appeared to me in that moment in person because I was asking to appear to me he a normal human being but not like us in this moment okay his body is different like has now it's different than ours yeah different you know I just find it interesting what the evil angel said to you when you
asked when you ask them like who is that guy and they said That's the man that died on the cross yes you know I just find that amazing but with not in good town the good town a good a good song right he said like someone he s to answer in in that way wow yeah what what do you mean like like so when you were asking they didn't they don't like to talk about about him wow yeah they don't like to talk about him they hatte him wow yes wow that's is a normal human
is a a human being okay he a human being but Not like us m in different context now M okay but he is a human being and you know um uh Paul talks about that in Corinthians about the the type of body you will have when Jesus comes back and he takes his people yes will take on incorruptibility will take on immortality bodies that cannot die and so I'm I'm imagining he looked like a regular human but he had some things that regular humans don't have right yes the the light the own light light was
Coming from him okay body everything was light on light right even the face everything right so he and I were talking at one point he was trying to tell me the color of of Jesus's beard and you were saying that it was glowing so it was hard to kind of distinguish what color it was right okay cuz light was coming from it I me I can't really can't really imagine that but about the skin I want to say only for the people that they are seeing those those those Uh those pictures M that is Jesus
a white no Jesus is not a white person he's not and he is he black only to say that whole Theologian okay I'm saying whole Theologian they know the people that was believe was leaving on the time that Jesus was here is as a human being a normal human being with his disciple even his disciple for ACC to that not the with new people that need isra right right not the same it's not The same but but I want to clarify and the reason why I asked is he black is because there are some that
thinks that Jesus looks like a black person uhhuh right okay does he look like a black person uh Jesus only to say that uh people are crying about the color right right right for them there's no problem for color right right even them they know about color God create who create the different type of the color was him in The beginning he create Eve and Adam in different colors yes okay mhm and then about colors only in our mind in human being because the demon creating our mind to see that color is inferiority is in
is inferior right yeah inferior right and then this one is superiority M do you you understand what I'm saying yeah but in reality for them there is no difference right right we are whole human being uh according to the question the the color of the skin uh I want to Say wasn't a a white person MH even not a black person but if you go to the to the history according to those people that was leaving in that time we find the type of the color that Jesus had and is the same color that he
had even up to now right okay right all to say about that to get the thing to our mind right right and and the only reason I asked that is because there are different groups of Christians who believe that they feel Superior because and I'm Not talking about just white people I'm talking about black people as well there are groups of people that feel Superior because they think Jesus looks like them uhhuh you see what I'm saying they say oh Jesus is black and I'm black you know or they'll say well Jesus is white and
I'm white you know but it first of all it doesn't matter what color he was but the truth is he wasn't black he wasn't white he looked like the people that lived in that day right but it doesn't Matter at the end of the day anyway because all the colors are beautiful God made them all ohen for the beauty and harmony and peace of it all amen you know what I'm saying we need to stop thinking about color but I I specifically had to ask that question because you know there people even in the comments
of our other videos who were saying you didn't you didn't tell me if Jesus was black or white you know but my my friends it doesn't matter what He looks like but he wasn't black he wasn't white um um he was a Jew back in those days cuz Jews not this Jew right right go you go ahead cuz I shouldn't be talking about that you should you should say it okay not like these Jews that we are seeing this color no because if you go Accord to the story mhm the syrians the assas uh syrians
Assyrians yeah Assyrians uhhuh right the king that King you can go to the Bible you will find that they Destroyed all Israel MH for that time even Jews sometime is the king that came and changed m a lot of people in Jews they changed M reason why those people those Jews in this Jew in our days are not the same color right okay right right um uh something that I think is more important than that is you know what his personality was like you know you had this you know two three hour meeting with him
I'm sure you were able to glean something About his personality m tell me something about his personality the most important and for us not the color of the skin but is his personality right his character his mind that he want is his his will to create in our mind his personality his character his character okay that is our Focus mhm to be like him mhm and character because one day we see him and all doubt that we have today all questions one day he will answer one By one right right okay we need to fight
only okay we need to fight only today M because when we one day we will meet him and we will meet our angels and others to see oh we were thinking about that this and this but this moment is no if you want to see you ask me about his character M that is the Focus right when I saw him the first time it look like I was looking like a love in person like someone you you know love in the first the first Time like L thing that people saying no I love this person
the first time that I saw him oh love at first yeah love the first time I saw this one and I laughed in that moment that I saw was the first time and I loved him wow was like that moment wow I was there seeing him I never seen someone look like that one the first is a a human being with own light right own light the light came from him but not Angel which type of the Creator this one who is question like That was coming out who is this One MH before he started
to ask to answer my questions this thing was appearing to my mind someone that you never seen before MH is a stranger for my mind Str for my all my things MH but he was there in person look like love in person respect maners is the word wow yes you know you um I've always asked you about this and I just think language is not enough for you to explain no cuz both of us we Speak Portuguese together we speak English yeah even Portuguese but I never can understand exactly what you mean when you say
that love in person I've tried my best to just imagine what that looks like and I can't bring it to mind you know I can't think of looking at somebody and saying wow this person is love in person so so I'm guessing that when you looked at him you could just tell that he was someone that loved you yes you could tell he was someone that Cared deeply for you only from from the beginning he said uh receive peace mhm this way before he start to talk before everything he said only um his presence all
my all the angel that was around me they disappeared for the first time I want to tell this thing his presence uh make that how my angel disappeared in that moment for the first time since I was born up to that moment you know let me ask you something about that um I've always heard you talk About that they disappeared you know um like when they and I've heard you know and the Bible says resist the devil and he will flee M he will run away yes right tell me what that looked like cuz people
need to get an A picture in their minds what will happen when they resist the devil when they resist the enemy because a lot of people think that they don't have power uh uh uh to to to make the enemy un uncomfortable around them you understand what I'm saying so tell Me what that looked like when those evil angels left when they left me for the first time yeah what did that look like like were they were they did you see them just say you know what we got to go and and and they they
left Fast what was it like or or it was so fast that you couldn't even see it no they disappeared but disappeared from that moment they went out wow yeah they went out from uh because they can't stain This same place when that one was they can't stay in the same place when it's Jesus they can't be there wow they don't have they don't have power to resist for the presence even Jesus he didn't say anything about them right he appeared only right and he didn't ask the angel they didn't ask anything they didn't talk
they disappeared only they just so so they just disappeared yeah they disappeared it's not like you saw them flying away no no or you saw them Running away they just disappeared they left me for the first time MH there but I was asking and myself why they disappeared and left me MH okay they left me they left me because they can't stay in the same place with Jesus with that person that was with me in that moment and why he appeared because in my mind I was asking him to I wanted to see him and
another word I was crying in I was crying inside of me I I was asking for help I was asking for For salvation for Freedom yeah meaning he appeared because of my prayer because of my asking my f in my mind reason why sometime God can appear to any person that asking for help he we appear there sometime can appear because of the prayer for someone that believe in Jesus is a friend of God Jesus can appear sometime he appear not in the same way that appeared to me and he appeared to me I believe
that because my life was a normal thing to See a spiritual things or to live in the spiritual Dimension I know who was Lucifer and I know who the Angels the normal angels for the evil and then him to appear to me is the same way to complete the great conflict I saw the the first person that side he supposed to come in himself to Reve to himself that I'm the one that was fighting against so oh so so you're you're saying that the reason that Jesus appeared to you in person is because you were
able To you were your whole entire life since your your birth you were living among the Angels yes in the spiritual Dimension yes and also you were introduced to the commanderin-chief of the evil Kingdom yeah and so since being introduced to the the the leader of the kingdom of darkness and being told that you're fighting against another PRI another Prince that's what they called him right the other prince um now you are being introduced to the Leader of the other side because you asked to so you're saying there's a balance there yes it's not as
if um Jesus thinks you're more special than someone else no that's why he's like you know what I'm GNA appay to Gabrielle and not Tim right no not because I'm no he's not it's a balancing thing so that you would see both sides right you would you you've seen everything on the evil side and God is saying you know what to balance this and make this fair I'm Going to let you see me as well so you can make your own decision yes right because at that point you'd only been shown evil you'd only been
shown Lucifer yeah right and so God was going to make that um um balanced and that that just shows that he's a just God uhuh that is true so you know so his his personality I guess was was just very very calm very peaceful uh and by looking at him you could just tell that he loved you and that he he he was very he cared deeply For you yeah um you know something that's just come into my mind but I want to know cuz you you told me this in a past interview you said
he he didn't look like a regular human in the sense that he just looked very tall right yeah yes so how tall did he look in in that when you saw him then H is not not for a normal human being the he's very tall not like a a regular normal human being so so even these basketball Players ah no no they they are short yeah they are short uh him and the normal Angel the distance not very not very different yeah not very different not there's no a lot of difference H so of course
I've never seen an angel before so how does how tall how tall are they you know yeah we talking about four or five five five M uh five meters yeah five met that's very tall man yeah like that so that's like twice the height of A regular person mhm that's the tallest the tallest human being they're not they not there no no way yeah there so four or five meters yes so let me just so 5 MERS 16 feet mm wow 16 feet yeah we talking about tall so but that means that they're passing the
ceiling then so was he so if he's passing the ceiling what is he is he bending down a little bit no No no oh wait but then again it depends on where you were right in your room was was your ceiling very was the roof very high was the ceiling High uh I'm telling something that is spiritual Dimension spiritual vision is not the same like a physical at that moment my spiritual dienal they didn't move before my eyes were seeing thing that is not nor for the normal human being okay okay I'm saying but the
Z for him didn't wasn't anything for him because came in the Spiritual Dimension wow okay but he was passing the roof then yes was passing the the roof goodness and I was seeing even the the the the the the roof uhhuh for my eyes the wolf wasn't there like it wasn't there wow you understand what I'm saying yeah because so because your spiritual eyes were still open yes you could basically see through the roof yeah yes to see him as he was looking down on you yes Mercy talk to me Mercy so because after he
he gave me a power to to disconnect to move to give me a power to move okay to see him now in the good way Al so you when you were laying down you couldn't see him very well no I saw him but not in the same way that when iake I woke up and stand a SE mhm to see him and asking to talk in the normal way MH like a normal he did those thing only to make me to understand that I have someone powerful more Powerful the angel wow because I was paralyzed
I didn't say anything he was answer my question from my mind the thing from my mind to see that he's a un Unis omnicient omnicient Know M M who is the OM only Creator was making me to understand because before I knew they they taught me how to ask him MH I can't believe anything because someone saying I need to ask myself this things true or not why this things happen they T me that I Told you they told me first how to ask mhm and how to ask to receive a good question a good
good answer mhm the knowledge come when you know when you start to ask yourself or to ask things around you mhm yes and I was asking put the that I knew before and asking do that this person why appear there no I didn't believe in the first time but only to see him you can't resist for that power Mercy yes for that personality in front of you have power He can't say anything like without manner I know that side sometime they are violent M they forcing you to do something because you need to do sometime
they're pretending to show that they love you but in reality you can see they don't like you wow they want to use only you as a channel so after a while you could tell that these evil angels don't love you yes but for this person he didn't care about he was respecting okay mhm he was respecting For respectful yeah respectful was there seeing and asking according and with the uh with the confidence and patience it was very calm it was very calm calm kindness yeah those thing you see from him mhm okay and they start
wow this person is very different this this I was saying this uh human being I was saying this human being is very different yes some question but when he started now to ask to answer some question that was asking uh he was Saying in a good way was telling me the story in the good way what do you mean like he was telling you the story in the good way and way he was explaining to me the thing that I didn't know MH okay or I know to that side but not in the true way
so he was telling you part of the story part of the history of I leared to that side that that Prince is the one that want to kill okay to destroy our King to destroy our kingdom is that one Is a selfish right okay that one is a selfish want to destroy our King our kingdom want to destroy everything that we we have that one is our enemy but he was sh to us he was shown to me that is the creator he doesn't have anything he not enemy for them he loves them so he
even told you that he he loves them yeah he loved them okay even now the thing now we are talking Jesus love Satan Jesus love demon but he doesn't like the thing that The decision that they made he can't do anything to stop him because their own decision reason why even now he thought he's giving food for them he sustain sustain them maintain them hold on hold on he told you that yes I I'm not I'm not the enemy for them that is my my my my children so but he told you that he's giving
them food that he he sustains them by giving them food yes because a normal a a normal human a normal Angel they can't live alone Without the Creator wow there is no life without the cre the Creator right there's no creation that God created that doesn't depend upon no one right even the same Satan that we are talking about Lucifer he can't live without Jesus reason why in the first time that they we live without God will die at the end you will see that moment mhm now God maintain okay sustain them even even for
human being imagine for human Okay I want to tell something that people can see no this guy is talking about this thing is not true okay we will talk about only the human being a normal human being that don't believe in God I can say something important okay example like imagine you have two kids M okay you love them one of them obey you another one disobey you one loves you another one doesn't love you mhm from that moment this one will become your Exon and this one will become your son Because that action no
they still my son da still one you will love more one because of the what the action natural right right right but you will love another one but you you won't like the his action right okay he was telling me this thing he love all his creation mhm but he doesn't like the behavior for some okay mhm he maintain he's not their enemy for Jesus that one is not his enemy but for them that side they enemy okay reason why I remember even the Bible okay in the Bible mhm okay mhm no go ahead go
ahead okay in the Bible That's what I was just about to bring up okay I don't know if it's the same one I was going to bring it Matthew 5 but go ahead uhhuh MTH Jesus said uhhuh love okay yeah love your neighbor like love yourself uhhuh and love your enemy enemy okay and give them right food that's Matthew 5 Matthew 5 Matthew 5:44 I was just looking that up because I was like you know this this this is so in line Uhhuh with scripture okay you know but go ahead go ahead okay he was
saying I'm doing this thing if you are my servant please do the same thing that I'm doing to my enemy for those people that look like my enemy I gave them food I maintain them I love them okay but not meaning I need to be together right right right right they not there is no connection Jesus and Demon when Jesus is there they run away they can't stay together the same place right right Imagine it's the same like uh I'm borrowing you money mhm okay lending me money okay oh okay I I lend you money
okay I can't see and sometime I'm lying to you m I have money but I don't want to pay right I want to run away when we will meet my face I won't seeing your face you me you know he a natural you feel guilty yes cuz you ow me you have wronged me yes and you're deciding because my mind ACC me I to this guy and I'm lying him and He know the thing that I'm doing is not good and myself I know the thing that I'm doing is not good I can't see in
your face all the time I want to run I I will start to run from where run away from you do you understand natural even for them they can't stay with Jesus cuz they know that they he didn't do anything wrong they know that they wrong and they did things that's not supposed to do to to him as a Creator do you understand what I'm saying okay like that and then he was saying he was telling me this things the deep and uh something that I can't tell to the people because some people doesn't prepared
to hear these things okay reason why sometime only for theology we talking about the lectur a theology lectur mhm I can talk some some things that we can oh yeah yeah yeah it's making sense M like that because normal people sometime they don't know about Bible they here only for their Leader they will go to concert they they are pastors I heard this is true no you you need you need to go to God and ask Jesus is those things that I heard go to the Bible go to the books that talking about the theology
read for yourself and ask to God is those things true or not like that MH reason why the great conflict is a Justice MH is about not not demonstration of the power right I learned from that that's talking right it's about law yeah it's about law it's About Justice MH it's not about demonstration of power because Jesus one word only to say all of all the Angels even the Lucifer say die they will die in that moment do do you understand what I'm saying of course okay he's the he the powerful he the Creator from
his word everything can disappear okay and whole angel can die in the same time when he say die MH but why because I remember I Asked why you leaving if you are good if you are good why you are leaving people to die good people are dying why you left us to kill people that serving you mhm if you are good question like that the answer sometime he say he say was uh with uh with I say with his face was like something that want to laugh and by but he was in calm okay calm
to look at like you see you don't know what you Saying like something like to make understand that he tell me that I don't know what I'm saying so so wait so after you asked him that question yes why do you allow people to die especially your own people mhm your own people people suffering wow innocent people suffering why and he looks at you like like you and then the answer was in my was was with me already because my action the thing that I did the life that I did the group The that group
of the people that I was MH no one was my own decision to make other people crying suffering was my own decision mhm do you understand what I'm saying yes okay even those those Angel the power Angel when I say don't do that I used to do when they allowed to do I used to do and then it's not about something not about God it's not about demon sometime it's about our own mind a human being when I decide to kill someone mhm the first mind is my mind and the demon will Come to influence
you to do the thing that you want to do already because by nature we sinner MH but the symptom the symptom for the for the sin is addu lying all that evil things is already in our heart reason why our heart is a sinner and in our heart there is not anything good you can pretend that you are good in our heart and our mind there's not anything good when we are not connected with God MH only bad Things without there is a suffering okay I learned from that moment that something that suffering pain that
happen in a human being in this world because first of all because our own choice wow is a human being so whereas we think that someone else is causing most of the suffering oh these demons are causing me suffering or or or we think that it's someone else yeah God is bring me something right go God is putting me through something most of the Suffering is because of our own choices yes and and when you were in that world that satanic order um the the demons will even they explain to you sometimes people think it's
us right yeah yeah that do something but they made their own decisions yes I remember and we like it they said they like they like it but they would love them to continue doing that right even now the thing that this moment that you're talking there is a people okay That they they don't know what they want for their own life they don't know what they want they don't know what they want for their own life some some people doesn't know what they want okay uh about suffering when I asked about those question that question
to him was coming in my mind the thing that we did okay that it was present M and the thing that we did without the influence for the evil the evil angels MH something we did like how to create a War how to destroy people to how to make a sickness or uh pandemic Pand me how cre to kill people innocent people mhm but why Jesus allow Jesus allow God allow because he want okay he want that other people like a uh a seed okay MH sometime Jesus allowed some people to die to become a
seed for others that living mhm for those bad people to understand something is wrong here that we are doing mhm it's not Supposed to be like this but supposed to do better MH do you understand what I'm saying right okay like that so it's like when someone dies um what what Jesus was saying there is that it plants a seed in the minds of other people to think about what just happened and say why would this person choose to die for this okay or you know or or why would this person do such an evil
thing mm you know I I understand what you're saying and from That that that that context we can understand now why Jesus sometime is in silence when something happen not because he's crying with that people he's crying with that person even when animal when a dog I'm talking about animal even the uh the animal in in the world when some when animal is dying he crying God is crying imagine if animal is dying when he crying Jesus God is crying what about a human Being but he's keeping this thing for the last day that when
we come to say stop and everything will stop he will say now is my time now is time to give a hand for everything okay but something that I learned from that is a a normal human being when you're suffering if if we count the thing like 100% I can say like 40% 40% it's a a choice for human Being to CH a wrong way a wrong choice because you are free to do whatever you want to do but you become a slave for the consequence for your choice you understand what I'm saying okay in
the beginning you will see this thing in the beginning according to the story in the Bible and even the Torah you will see that a was a human being Satan didn't force him to eat that fruit according to the story right he didn't force him what did he say the First thing the you the human being a lady that lady his own doubt they start to doubt first of all he disob disobey disobeyed God when he said don't separate don't leave one another he left started there mhm in that moment when she left his her
partner he start to be uh to go around the garden alone and then oh this moment that because he knew this one is a weake another one I we tell her But he didn't he didn't force her right he essentially just suggested yes only suggesting is the same thing even our day sat can't force anyone to do a wrong thing only suction do that what do you think about that you can do because you are thinking already to do that you will come to say no you can continue go go ahead continue go ahead and
do I'm I can support you do but not forcing you to do only rejection okay it's the same way for our Day 40% is our own choice and another one to become one handed I can say uh no 6 I can say Okay 60% our own choice okay set percent is a opinion from the div okay even for a human being the secret society MH they can CH some people come I will give you whatever the thing that you want to have remember the Temptation in desert when when sat said to Jesus if You worship
me if you KNE kneel down and worship me I will give all this thing in this world because belong to me M do you understand what I'm saying okay for those people first I will give everything that you want in this world but do the thing that I want you need to do I will use you as a my channel and people accept yes I will do yes use me as your channel I will do whatever the thing that you want that I need to do no one will know that you are behind me Behind
my action why it's a choice to become a agent is a choice no one will force you okay mhm and then 30% is sat in his Angel to influence people to do wrong things and the 10% is God allow that we need to do need to happen those things sometime God allow something wrong or something bad suffering because he want to teach some people to learn mhm there is people they don't believe when everything is what is good they start to believe and to think When something is going wrong to recognize that no I was
wrong I need to recognize that now there is a creator you want to say what I'm saying so you know a lot of what go happens we're the ones that bring it on on ourselves and some of what it some of what happens is it's the evil angels suggesting things to us and some of it is the the evil angels trying to influence other people to influence other people and then a little bit of it Is when God says you know what I'm going to allow this bad thing to happen I'm not going I'm not
making it happen but I'm allowing it to happen because it will help someone it will help a few people along the way to believe u it will help people to re-evaluate their lives and the way that they're living yes and choose the right thing um you know and that's the unfortunate thing is we live in this world we live in a messed up world you Know um this was not God's ideal right it wasn't the way things were supposed to be and so because of that we live in this world where we can't even see
things for what they are we we're so blinded by it by the world and so uh it's unfortunate that we don't realize that we have so much power to control our own circumstances you know when it comes to sickness a lot people don't understand that they Control how they'll become healthy or or become sick uhuh you know by what they eat you know some cases people get sick and it has nothing to do with their diet but a lot of it is how are you eating how are you sleeping yes how are you what are
you around what's your external environment um and it's the same with a lot of other things it's not just diet you know there's so many things that we choose to do you may choose not to go to School and not to do anything that will better yourself financially because you don't have to go to school there are other options there but it depends on you what choice will you make right to better yourself financially what choice will you make to better yourself in terms of your health what choice will you make to better the relationship
between between you and your mother you and your father you and your brother you and your spouse Right A lot of it has to do with our decisions um I want to I want to ask something else about um about this and a lot of there's a lot of people who won't understand why I'm asking but there's some who who who will very much enjoy it um but what type of clothes was he wearing and when I said type of clothes I don't mean if he was wearing like a jacket or you know but you
know was he was he covered you know what type of Clothes was he wearing if if you can remember okay I know uh that was everything was uh right M okay white everything was white okay one thing that is was long M okay and he has a Bel even the belt was white the belt so he was wearing a belt okay the belt even the belt was white what kind of belt was it not the kind of belt that we use no no no it's it's about like remember the high press or high press that
head in that that time for Israel people yes I Remember okay he used in the same but that is white long with one belt here to keep them white everything was white so there were no colors it was just all white yes wow but with the light right it was light coming off of it right yeah wow like that and he was covered it wasn't like he was wearing something short sleeve it was like right here wow wow wow do he have on even when he showed his hand was we P he pushed it ah
he pulled it like this uhuh and showed Wow like that wow wow man um what I want to know is and and this I'm asking this question because you and I the last time we were here together we're going to the we're going to the store we're walking and I asked you this MH and you're what you told me about it was so impactful in my my life and in the lives of people who I shared it with that I have to ask it here in this interview Um Jesus he's an important person you know
what I mean he's God he's the creator of everything yes he here and he's here and he visits you yes in your room he's calm he's telling you things did it seem like he had somewhere to be you know like cuz he's God right he has stuff to do I'm sure did it seem like he had somewhere else to be like hey let's let's you know ask you come on you can ask some more questions because you know got to get going you know what was that Like did it seem like he was rushing like
he had somewhere else to go he was quite calm he didn't uh he didn't show that his needed to leave that place to go somewhere he was like he time for all the time that I wanted to be with he didn't he didn't show anything that he need to rush he need to leave that place no was there Cal with the patience okay with me there like only me in the World okay with him there he didn't show me anything that no we need I need to leave this place no he didn't show those thing
reason why so this one is very different so so you've experienced that with the angels is that what you're saying the angel they are changing they are changing when he's is one is there another one they need to leave and they will go another one will come in that place because it can't be empty in that place they will go another one will come Like that M A lot of times a lot a lot of time but this one was there patient like we are only me and him in the world wow like that wow
yeah no rushing to show that ring that need to go somewhere no was there C reason why I was ask is this a person is this what is it in front of me is a no but I was seeing it's not imagination was was there so why did you ask is this a person in your mind why were you asking that no because it was very Different you said when he said I'm your creator mm and I create those those the first words that he said I create you for better things mhm from this word
I understood that this one is a Creator but the Creator I learned the the great Creator is a god mhm but this one is a human is a limited that that in this space right right okay he's here with me now right but if the Creator not supposed to be supposed to be everywhere not like this right but was was there Like that I'm the Creator wow okay when uh when this things start to come who is this one reason why he started to count me the story according according to his or according to the
TRU com from him mhm not in the way that I Le mhm I Le that that one is my our enemy the first enemy the one on the cross the one that died in the cross MH our enemy because they want to destroy our kingdom he want to destroy everything in our sight they They want to to to create another kingdom but this one is the opposite they want to destroy our kingdom but for for that one he was tell me now the true story everything started like the story oftion M okay when this thing
everything started when he create everything like that some St that we know okay that people theology are saying about that but in different way he was saying reason why we take uh We all all that time when he start now to talk about because sometime when he's explaining I will ask what is mean he will come back he will stop somewhere and he will come back yeah so you were cutting so you were cutting him off and saying wait I don't understand I don't understand he will come back like he's reading my mind okay up
to here he didn't understand I need to go back before he knew where stopped he we come back and we start Explain another in another way another word that make me to understand so oh when I understand we continue at this time you weren't talking because you were paralyzed still yeah for some time because after I become comfortable and he said he told he gave me opportunity to be free mhm for everything to be free mhm wow so so he was was like you know reading your mind realizing when you couldn't when you like missed
something and like okay no no you don't understand Let me go back yeah he's explaining to you reason why I like in the way that explained it to me I like to using the same way when I'm explain to someone he didn't understand I will go back I will stop in somewhere and I will go back I will explain to another using another another method another words mhm to explain the same way he was patient with me m reason why we talk time because was speaking when I have some question he will stop and explain
that question my Mind but I didn't say anything I was there but I didn't say anything I didn't open my my my my mouth to say wow but was reading my mind that is just so he knew my my my idea my everything in my mind mhm There's No Limit say this one is god wow yeah no no way that he know the thing that I'm thinking and he answer he's talking the way that I want and I was quiet you know when you you admire something that you never seen before and it's very nice
very beautiful You say wow what is it you know wow I can say I don't have any any way to explain to explain the way that I was feeling that moment wow mhm is this wow like in my in my heart wow wow wow the true and I like to Lear even now I like to Lear when I'm wrong I like some people to say no you are wrong it's not supposed to do that you are wrong I love like that and I like to learn new things for better right right and I like when
I'm wrong someone say no You are wrong mhm if even our nature we don't like that someone come say now you are wrong mhm I like to go to cry to my my Lord Jesus something is wrong to me someone said I'm wrong I'm doing this thing is wrong and I don't have power to resist or to stop to do this thing help me MH and he help me m and I show he can show the thing even now he can show that I'm wrong this way but please help me Jesus give him power uh
I'm talking about in That moment yeah that moment that talk example that moment was very unique and I I I don't know maybe we have we will have the same topic in the same when will we be in the heaven amen yes MH I want to ask other question that I I learned this time with the new experience because we need to have all the new experience with God yes it's not about hisory it's about today salvation is today it's not just about what you've Had experiences you've had you need to continue to have experiences
with the Lord because even before in the Bible if you see the Bible Jesus met with a lot of people and was uh was working with people he was working with the people M they met with people we talk but they didn't receive salvation do you understand true even the people that resurrected like Lazarus he died again yeah he's not alive right the problem is not meeting with God not meeting with Jesus you can a lot of people meet with Jesus in the true way but during the time they are going to the life they
live they abandon Jesus even Kings Accord to the Testament the king in the beginning he will stay connected with God but at the end God the problem not with begin the problem not to meet with Jesus can meet anyone MH according to his will M okay and his time they can meet but how to maintain that connection with him Forever day by day mhm night By Night mhm to be connected with him that is that make the difference right even now those thing that that uh those experience that I had gave me power in my
uh in my my life when the pain the suffering was coming to my life MH when the persecution came to me from the the devil right right I was thinking to that guy why that guy appeared to me talk to me this way but where is where is he now yeah where is now mhm and some of them Some of a lot of people can abandon and go back to the place because a normal human being doesn't like suffering doesn't like pain mhm we don't like to suffer mhm that's so true but when you love
someone those thing that was talking that moment and I he love I loved him because he led me the first moment that moment he came to save me because I wanted to be free from that system I was tired I was empty MH and it was the first time he gave me peace he Put me something that I was missing in my heart was missing in my mind was missing in my my soul mhm he gave me those thing the talk is talking about the story of ation mhm after that moment that showed me okay
you can continue yeah and we discussed that you know right right after that you you you he gave you the opportunity to make your own decision yes right and you knelt before him and dedicated your life to him yes right Um what I'd like to know is what stood out to you the most about the entire encounter you know cuz a lot there's a lot of things there that happened you know you see him here's this human being he's very tall he's glowing you know he's wearing this strange clothing um he's saying things to you
but what stood out for you what was what's the thing that really marked you that day was at the moment when he said I'm the one that Died on the cross I'm the god that create everything but I decide with my own decision to save a human being and die on the cross and he showed me the evidence that I'm the one that you learned that I'm the enemy I'm not your enemy I died in the cross because I led you and I love the people that that you you and your friend and your your
group killed and because I died for all human being and I died for you Too this whole human being I died for them if they believe that me a redeemer I'm a savior and I'm the Lord for the I can serve everyone that accept me he's a Lord and he's a savior and he showed me the evidence the evidence for his love and I was crying from that moment was that moment that my eye was crying the water was coming out so so you were there Crying and this was this was this the first time
that you in a long time that you were crying yeah yes I never cried it before wow that moment there's no way when he show love in person and I start to cry not because not because of the fear but because the understanding that I was hurting to someone that loved me too much and I was fighting against someone that loves me too much that wasn't my enemy and those that deceived me that That one is our our first enemy when it's not in me he died for me I start to cry why I fought
against you why I did Evil thing to your servant and I was I was hurting your your heart M I was making pain to your heart because you love human being you love your creation Now I started to cry with not because of the consequence not because of because of the love to understand the understanding and the Evidence that showed me is the one that died in the cross is this one died and resurrected and he's living to save all he's working to save all those people that believe in his Sal in his died and
Resurrection is this one and I stayed there crying he was there look at me only was look at me only and I didn't have any question and my mind was say forgive me I didn't know this thing Before I didn't know this thing before and I grow up not know I grow up without any to make my own decision I grow up to do the whatever the thing that they wanted to do they make they made our way my way to fall on the way according to their desires now I was fighting against you I
start to cry and with my own decision I went KN down KNE down mhm and I start to cry and as to say forgive me my father you are my will father you are My will Creator you are my will God and I will be your servant I will be with you but save me from my my former friends MH my ex friend because they will kill me I knew this thing they will kill me I receive a persecution from them mhm any time they K they can kill me mhm but if I we die
I will die in your name mhm I will die in your name and I want salvation because you saved me already I want to love you in the way that you loved Me like that what was his that's powerful man I'm telling you what was his reaction I'm telling you he was happy he was happy yes it was happy so he smiled yes he was happy and the angel I remember a angel that supposed to be found he came near to me and start to laugh to sing he start to sing wait stop stop stop
man stop man come on man for whole human being there is always even Satanist agent there's already one Angel a good angel that is behind to control the person to control his work that everything that he doing that angel already there can be you mean to record huh so so you saying you said everybody has an angel that that does what now one Angel but good Angel MH that God sent uh to control that whole people whole people that one angel that God sent to control the life of that one how does he Control the
life of that person no he won't say anything he will look he will control the thing that you doing with your own decision so you mean he will try to control he will try to influence you to do right I'm saying the thing that I'm saying is this Angel he can stay Bey the or another Angel but we control your action your actitude some like someone is seeing the thing that that keeping the thing that you are you are doing okay you mean he's Recording yeah like someone is recording the thing that you are doing
M okay so you said control did you mean to say record record the word is that one not to control is the the record okay okay to be a God right okay so so okay so you're saying everybody has an angel from God yes and that angel is always keeping record he's always recording the thing that is do that you're doing in your life but that time I didn't pay Attention for that one but you've always seen that angel but was always behind okay with me always distant uhhuh everywhere that I'm going already there that
angel was there yeah was there so that angel now when you decided to kneel down uhhuh he came wow yeah he came near near and next to me mhm and start to sing oh became happy oh come on man I've never heard you say that man really yes he started singing right next to you Yes mercy and and and I believe that this the same Angel was the same one that appeared to me when I went when I went to to when I went to Kola after my right that's in your book right right okay
I wrote In the book right right you were discouraged and you were crying yeah yeah was the same Angel appeared to me to give me uh encouragement encouragement say no bone come with me the solution will come already come down and the problem will be solved after we Went to work somewhere and we came back he say now you can go to the office you we see oh you were walking with him yes I walk with him it was the same angel now became my friend wow yeah and he sign he sang when you knelt
down and decided life to Jesus Christ from that moment when I gave my life to him he said I can't promise you to give the thing that's supposed to have to that side I not I can't promise you that you Won't suffer or you won't receive pain but I promise you that I will be with you always all the time that you ask by by my name I will be there mhm this thing can mhm uh only to say those people that in our days uh people are going to change not because they are following
Jesus in the same way if you read in the Bible chapter 6 M 7 8 and N there this story when Jesus which book John okay okay John John chap 6 7 8 and 9 you'll Find the history when Jesus was working with the people but sometime he left the people and went to pray he went to another side of the sea MH okay and those people that was following him he found him to another side of the sea and they asked we are follow we are looking for you a long time where where did
you go where have you been M Where Have You Been say and Jesus answer in this way I know you are looking for me but you are Looking for me because your stomach is a a full and you are happy because I'm doing miracle in the middle of of you right you are not looking for me because I'm a God because I'm showing thing to show that I'm a God you are not looking for me to see now this is a god mhm yeah you are happy meaning you are following me because of the selfish
intention right right do you understand essentially they were looking for him because he had fed The 5,000 yeah they were saying we want to stay next to him so we can get fed again yes all the timeat you know they want to have that food that physical food instead of the spiritual food that he was offering yes he started now to do the discuss you need to accept me you need to hit my Bo my my my my my flesh flesh M you need to to drink my my my blood mhm and the people say
wow that's too hard do that can't I Can't do they start want to leave one by one mhm one by one mhm mhm and they asked they do a lot of people they became 20 120 and among 12 they became 7 70 M about 70 they become 12 and he asked will you leave will you leave me too M and thect answer in the good way the same even me I can answer even now mhm where will I go you are the way yeah you are the TRU and you are the life you are Christ
meaning you are Messiah mhm you are the God supposed to save us you are the way we don't have anywhere to go we are following you whatever the thing that need to come we are following you MH that is Jesus and he said I can't promise you a better thing in this life because suffering and pain is reality in this word mhm and I can't promise you that you won't suffer but I promise you that I will be with you in pain I will give you peace and suffering I will give you a Peace that
no anything in this world can give you but I will be with you I will cry with you I will cry in suffering with you I will be with you m I passed through this thing that we pass I will pass through the thing that all people are passing and I passed more because my suffering is to save the whole human being MH no one will suffer in the way that I suffered MH you understand what I'm saying okay those reason why this time when some people asked me oh oh you Are ex Satanist there's
people here that is a you want to leave this place but suffering too much and want to go back say no you are not suffering too much those thing is not not enough in the way that I pass it through I'm telling you is a suffering when they come to kill or to make you suffering you will suffer I'm telling you but God always with me even now he is with me amen I'm alive because of his Mercy because of his Amazing Grace am which why I'm I Can't stop to talk about Jesus and His
Amazing Grace he is my life he is my Lord he is my friend my personal friend amen believe or not I'm not talking about that he needed to have a fellow no I don't want followers M I need the people following Jesus Christ not follow me right Jesus Is Our Savior amen okay don't say no this one go and read your Bible and ask to Jesus this is will if you ask KN down to your room and ask Jesus I want to see you I want to talk To you please reveal to me according to
his will he can appear or not M but something I can tell to the people that he will answer he will answer the prayer mhm he can he he answered the prayers M amen amen what are some other things he said would happen if you were to be faithful until the end and something that he promised me not in this life but begin in this life when he said at this word I can't Promise you everything but I promise you something is eternal life eternal life no one can give you in this world right but
I we give you is not only eternal life is a happiness happiness joy happiness joy and true peace true peace oh gosh don't you want some peace and then in another place the heaven not only the heaven after heaven we will live somewhere that we even the Bible say the New Jerusalem the New Jerusalem the New Jerusalem M and I we I we I we travel okay to another places that he created a long time but is even now it's perfect I we know another world another place no another people he can't promise me to
Trav plan everywhere here but he prom me that that place we can go anywhere whatever that they want to be and with etal life live forever wow so but if with the condition If I be uh you remain faithful remain faithful until the end in until the end only those Fe so you said you said he promised you that you'd be able to travel to the other worlds yeah yes so so he said that yeah like that he said there are other worlds out there that he created that are still perfect they have not Fallen
yes like this world into into sin there is wow even the Bible he said about that when he said that the the the parable of The yeah the Lost sheit yeah okay he left 9 99 okay she and he went to look for what mhm another way he was saying exist another words MH but he came to die in this world reason why New Jerusalem that all people came that we come from this this this world they will be the capital city for the heaven the capital city for Universe because why because was in that
place that God died mhm and God Jesus become a human being forever Because he died mhm he decided he's a God but he decided because of love to be close in the body of human being forever mhm do you understand what I'm saying that's mean love oh my gosh and we will leave there I will be there and we see him and we ask a lot of question more I want to be there too even my angel and I I will ask some people some people here that when they heard my story they say no
I accept Jesus I want to greet them and I want to see Paul there Paul is my friend I love the story for David and the story for uh Paul Paul Apostle Paul the apost the king of David I love this stav King David I love this story I want to see them one day in the heaven to say I like the way that you wrote your books oh man I want to meet Peter man Hey cuz Peter Peter reminds me of myself he was very impulsive you know he he he he he thought he
knew himself and he Realized he wasn't who he thought he was remember when Christ said will you be faithful yes he said of course I love you I'll be faithful said you're going to deny me three times no no me no and then he did that he did that even ended up cursing but then he ended up staying so faithful when he was converted amen so faithful amen so powerful in his ministry come and he was faithful unto the death he was Killed and he decided he didn't even want to be killed the same way
that his own Lord died MH turn me upside down don't don't crucify me upright no no no no no the great God was crucified I want to be upside down come on man Peter man that's my guy right there yeah and David uhhuh I love the story for David oh man me too man God got him from the nowhere from the bush MH he a Shepherd M and he T him to become a King for the Israel even become a king he didn't change he Didn't change was still the same he's still the same and
trus in God in the same way yeah except for when he did that thing with B she the mistake yeah I know I'm just saying you know yeah it's not about don't Focus the mistake I'm not focusing onake my focus only on the his behavior even become a king a powerful King not only King a powerful King and a powerful Soldier mhm he didn't say anything that he didn't change the behavior that he Had before so essentially he didn't abandon his God yes he say God was depending on God everything even his mistake after the
the people came after the prophet came to say he repented uhhuh he went can you cry it he said God please I made a mistake MH sorry forgive me mhm forgive me only to recognize mhm there is people become arrogant when receive power and money everything become arrogant MH and live you can see the story of a lot of Kings MH but that One no in Apostle Paul apost Paul I can identify my story with him yeah was a powerful preacher mhm he didn't care about people he said Jesus Is My Life mhm I can
testify that Jesus is my life Jesus why we call people call this Paul the Apostle of Christ the man of Christ is that one and we preach I'm preaching Jesus my life we don't L I'm nothing reason why he said uh Galatians galaan chapter 2: 20 Mhm I'm crucified with Christ nevertheless I live it live not me but Christ but Christ Living in me the life that I'm living I'm living on Christ that is not me but Jesus living in me MH whatever that I want to do I we do according to the will of
go of what of Jesus Jesus I love wow this this is such a powerful this this is my favorite thing to talk about um from your testimony I like hearing About the other stuff as well don't get me wrong you know it's very powerful to hear that stuff but just to hear about the Creator the the the god of the universe to hear about Jesus I just I want to I want to reflect that character you know matter how now most nice people may seem that there's nothing that compares to Jesus and we must all
strive to be like him um my friends I hope you are blessed today I I pray that as you meditate on the things That our brother here has said today on his Encounter With Jesus that you will seek to reflect that same character in your own life and seek to gain a relationship with him a personal relationship with him not through me and my story or his story but through your own story with Jesus God bless you friends thank you for staying tuned amen [Music]
