Personality Analyst: Uncover Who You Really Are & Optimize It

What do you see in these tests that other people don't see from just the free version or on the surface so basically Myers breaks the personality framework it really likes talking about People's Natural preferences it's talking it's trying to put words to people's cognition not their behaviors not traits that can change but actually going like what's the core of like what are your favorite ways of looking at Things and making decisions the coolest thing about personality type stuff is it's sort of like a framework a tool that can help you get to know yourself and

the more you know yourself the better you can make choices in life right choices about your relationships what job you do how you like to help others uh what are your personality superpowers right as we're going in life especially in our 20s and 30s right it's a big journey of Basically just like trying to figure out who the heck we are and we think we know ourselves right but then you like have a relationship or you have a you know you have a job or you have a whatever and you're like oh wow I have

a lot of blind spots that I I don't know about and so it sort of gives you um a shortcut like a sort of like a hack to be able to see these things about yourself more clearly but then also leverage that right so like be able to Highlight that more for other people or like be able to communicate and express that better and more quickly to other people uh I think a lot of people when they're first taking the test right it's like oh what letters are you what letters are you and like not

realizing that some of these categories or like topics that the personality type stuff gets into it's so much more than just like do you like hanging out with people or not hanging out with people do you Like organizing your desk or not organizing your desk it actually gets to some really deep interesting stuff the way that it breaks things down is using these sort of like eight preferences so introversion versus extraversion intuition versus sensing thinking versus feeling and then judging versus perceiving and so uh introversion versus extroversion it's all about what do you get energy

from interacting outside um engaging with the outside world or are You actually someone that gets energy from focusing mostly on your internal world or at least focusing first on your internal processing which means just your feelings your own thoughts it's just sort of like calibrating things more to a personal point of view being a little bit more selective narrowing things in a little bit those are things that are usually connected to all different types of introversion so I like using like throttling it's a little Bit like let me throttle the outside world like um to

sort of calibrate it a little bit more to maybe my own reasons or my own experiences my own perspectives all of that takes time right to go like wait how am I seeing this or what do I think about this and so that's where the introversion comes from it's a customized approach yes um and then yeah extroversion can look like lots of different things engaging outside it doesn't always need To show up as like talking with people or liking to hang out with people sometimes um you can have an extrovert and they are actually a

lot of times spending time alone but if you actually go inside their head they're always thinking about outside problems trying and exploring things outside engaging and interacting outside but in like a bunch of different ways the next uh dichotomy that uh Myers Brigs like talking about it's intuition versus Sensing and this category is really cool because it's like all about how do you like looking at things what type of information do you naturally like focusing on and trusting first and so um some personality types they naturally like focusing first or trusting more concrete information first

it's stuff that's a little bit more connected to real experience or things that you can like like yeah see and interact with more directly So this is like I'm in the moment I'm like really observing this in reality now or like let's get some like specifics or facts or reference my past experience right that's something that's those are things that I actually live through and that happen so sensing information is um likes to focus on that stuff first and then intuition is basically liking to focus first on information that's not concrete so stuff like like

guesses speculation patterns Uh interpretation bigger picture stuff those are things that you can't actually verify sometimes or like touch or like spell out or draw um but that information is also really useful and I I sort of like using the analogy of like binoculars right it's like you could have a whole bunch of people go on the same exact trip same exact experiences and events but like each person might be like magnifying different things with Their binoculars like what information are you like going like this is important or like this was the best part or

like uh this is what we need to focus on right um so that's what intuition and sensing is all about yeah the way I always thought uh it was broken down was that intuitive is more Forward Thinking and looking at yeah what's what's new looking looking into the future and ver where sensing is more looking at the past and and what are the patterns that Have already proven itself so it's also kind of uh maybe even like being more conservative like hey what's the tradition saying what have we always done versus hey let's look forward

how can we improve things how can we innovate and uh I've always found myself even with my business or YouTube or whatever always trying to figure out okay how can I make this different how can I do this differently where I'm the first to do It yeah I think it's um you know sometimes sensing preference can look like that I think it's um with intuitive preferences it's all about about trying to focus first on the potential right so potential can sometimes be oriented towards the future right it's like what if it could be this other

thing and ultimately that's actually just a guess right it's just like seeing a pattern or a possibility um but yeah with intuitives um you usually when sometimes They're planning things out or trying to execute on something it's really important for them to go well what's the big picture potential that I'm actually headed towards and they want to get that information more like locked in first before getting into the details whereas with the sensing Preference they can also be like change makers and really ambitious and do all this cool stuff but for them they're like let's

focus on the Practical reality first and then we can Like start brainstorming different like possibilities nice so we got the first two letters out of the way there introverted versus extroverted then there's sensing versus intuitive talk to me about the third one thinking versus feeling seems very self-explanatory but but is it thinking versus feeling is um tricky because you know we all have emotions and we all can be like really intelligent and logical this category it actually has nothing to Do with your intelligence or like ability to have emotions it's actually more about like when

you're making decisions and prioritizing things are you someone that naturally likes to focus on problem solving or helping in a more detached way or in a more like thinking about like factoring in feelings criteria feelings metrics stuff like values relationships how is it's going to make like the feelings the people that sort of thing both types can Be really into helping people that's actually a common like misconception both types really care about people and really like helping people but when you look at the ways that they're approaching it um you might have like thinkers that

are like oh if I just sort of like analyze how people might feel and like the cause and effect of that or like why are you feeling like that let's let's analyze the reasons why you might feeling be feeling like that and if I Solve the problem for you if I give you a solution then you'll feel better right it's a little bit like let me tackle this in a more like unemotional way and then you'll feel better um whereas with the feeling personality types it's like no feelings are part of the problem feelings are

something that you need to take care of and factor in when you're making the decis decisions mhm cuz we're human beings right so emotions always yeah they always throw a bit of a Curveball sometimes right so yeah uh and lastly we talked about judging versus perceiving yeah judging versus perceiving is basically like how much do you like organizing the outside world so judging preference personality types it's like if I organize Outside Inside I can have some peace because I know that things are like settled and decided and like I have an idea of how things

should be or how how I expect things to be and I want to put Some effort into like maintaining that or like keeping that a certain way um and so for them actually adding structure makes them feel better on the other hand you have perceiving preference types and they actually get energy from getting rid of structure it's a little bit like if I just sort of know myself and or have things organized in my own mind then I don't need to have the outside so organized I can just react to the Different emerging information oh

something's changing so a different option popped up I know myself that's what I want to do now and so they're calibrating a little bit more to a personal point of view and so what that means is uh when you calibrate more internally with uh organizing they actually get energized by like going oh if I have less structure I can be more spontaneous and I I get more options to more fully Experience things or or explore the things that I I want to right um let's not let's not like yeah like uh decide on things or

close those Loops too early because like what if that's not the right fit for me a little bit later so it sounds like judging is more from the outside in versus perceiving is more from the inside out yeah judging tends to be a little bit more like externally motivated um whereas Perceiving tends to be a little bit more internally motivated with like how they like organizing things interesting I think that's what it becomes really important to when you're picking roommates right I I would assume that they they uh when you have a strong J and

a strong P living together there's there's going to be some conflict yes I've I've had my own like sort of experiences with that nice so what are The big components that you look for a lot of websites especially like 16personalities.com the things that they're describing it's actually uh behavior um when in reality if you really get to know Myers Briggs and this specific personality framework what it's really trying to get into is actually your cognition so it's not really your behavior like are you someone that always likes your bed made or always likes a to-do

list it's actually going Like how do you like looking at things what type of information do you naturally prior ize or focus on first when you're making a decision how are you judging that decision what are you prioritizing in that decision and so it really gets into some wiring stuff actually that's um very like deep and unique to you um and so that's actually probably one of the number one things that I like looking for um in either the website or The framework is like is this describing a behavior a trait which is something that

can change right or is it talking more about your cognition which is something that actually in my opinion doesn't really um change the way that people think MH so what are some of the examples of cognitive functions and how they play out in real life so people can look at okay what could be mine okay um so for instance with the Logical decision making you could have someone that really is like they're The Logical decisions that they like making they're very focused on outside so it's like what's the goal how are we going to get

that done what resources are necessary in order to make that happen let's reverse engineer let's do resource management and systems thinking to think about what's the most logical way to get things done and make things work outside but then on the other hand you could Have someone else who's actually the type of logical checking in that they do it's actually more about like checking in with them mes and trying to understand things for themselves and going what actually makes sense to me maybe this is why other people are doing it but what act what are

my personal reasons for doing things and I'm going to personalize it a little bit to myself so that person they might not be like so goal and results oriented right they Might not be measuring things in that way but then they might have their own version of sort of like thinking things through and checking things in a logical way and the the thing that I think is really interesting is because on social media there is so much everyone's just sharing their advice about how you should do things or what's going on or what's the best

way to whatever um and from a personality perspective I always think that's really interesting because Everyone's often sharing their personality type advice from their own perspective right it's like that's the personality advice that like works best for them or that is super useful for them or is like something that they're working on because of their personality type but is that always actually the best advice for you I love that it's very important who you take advice from and and can that be applicable to you and who you are so I want to put a pin

In that are there any other cognitive functions or ways where that applies other than just decision- making yeah it's also the ways that people like making connections some people the types of connections that they make it's sort of like liking to see how things are connected outside and going oh this can be connected to this and this is making me think of this it's a very like connecting outside things um and getting a lot of inspiration from outside like When you when these personality types interact outside there uh like interesting questions or ideas start popping

into their head naturally but then on the other hand you could have some other personality types where the type of connecting that they do it's actually a a lot more internal it's not always getting it from outside it's like let me actually go inside my mind and sort of let the patterns form that type of way of making connections It's so interesting because it impacts how people tell stories how like the type of content that people make the ways that people communicate um what people find meaningful is actually different depending on these different personality types

another one I wonder about is also how we organize things whether it's internally or yeah but that probably then also shows up externally right yeah I mean what are some of the ways that you've Seen this pop up for yourself I like to close Loops I like to get things done sooner rather than later like for example living with housemates is very revealing that we have different personalities and we like to handle things differently and so when I cook before I eat I do the dishes I just get that out of the way I don't

want to think about it I don't want to have that floating in the back of my mind um but I know other people are different right And so that's again an external way that that shows up but I think in an internal way too I like to have things organized and not rely on my memory for it to float around I want it somewhere where I can I can hold on to it and grab it whether it's setting a reminder that I know is going to remind me or something visual that I know is going

to bug me until I get it done yeah I mean that you just perfectly described one of the main categories that the Myers Brigg's Personal framework likes talking about which is sort of like the judging versus perceiving a lot of people think of it as like your one type likes organizing things and one type likes um just like being spontaneous but really when you get to the core of it it's a lot more of like what what you said it's like sort of like I just um I have an idea of how things should be

done or I have all these responsibilities sometimes on my plate and I just my mind can rest when Things are the loops are closed like you said things are more decided and settled because like if I have an idea of how things are supposed to be adding some structure is going to help with making that thing happen um whereas with the perceiving preferences they actually tend to like uh getting rid of structure and what about the social aspect I'm assuming that's also a big chunk of cognitive functions it's how we relate To others it pops

up a lot in terms of again like what we find meaningful what types of ways that we like to explore and interact right um like an example that comes to mind is like for me quality time is like hanging out with someone and we could be doing nothing but just like talking and sharing interesting ideas and I I sometimes say like it doesn't matter if I'm like on a couch having an interesting convers ation next to a dumpster or like if I Was in Hawaii the experience for me would be pretty much the same like

probably if you measured my brain I would just be getting the same level of enjoyment out of it and so talking is like a really big part of how I like to connect but then like sometimes we've talked with other personality types and they're like their idea of quality time is just like being together like sometimes it's just like doing an activity or an experience they're like Actually don't do so much talking I just want to be like walking with you and having a great experience together but no talking for me that would be really

horrible right um or I would I would be a little bit like how is this quality time but for them they're like why does there need to be so much talking right so I think that yeah like the ways that we the things that we find engaging and meaningful um is often connected to personality type stuff mhm so you dive Into the Myers braks right and so for those people who don't know there's four letters on the surface that you get which is e or I then n versus S then T versus F and then

either you get J or P yeah so what's underneath all that are the the cognitive functions is each one of these letters is one or the other cognitive function are there multiple cognitive functions how does that how do they connect um basically the the n and S category and the T and F category the Those get expanded so for instance instead of just intuition you could have introverted intuition and extroverted intuition with uh thinking and feeling you could have introverted thinking and extroverted thinking um and so like uh at the end it breaks down to

like eight different cognitive functions and then depending on which ones are really natural and comfortable for you versus which ones are a little bit more clumsy and awkward the cognitive functions are Like building blocks and it sort of gets put together into almost like a decoder ring for your personality type the thing that in Practical terms what it really likes getting into is some of the Nuance that just the four letters can't get into so for instance let's say you were in ESTJ so extroverted sensing thinking and judging on the surface ESTJ is super useful

but uh going a little deeper the cognitive functions can help in ESTJ get To know what is your introverted side like what is your intuitive side like what is your feeling side like and what ways do you like being more spontaneous so it sort of talks about like if you ever feel like your four letters don't fully represent you or like there's something missing or like sometimes I feel like I do like you know blank um the cognitive functions are where some of that like extra Nuance comes from what are some other behaviors That or

what are some other ways that people can figure out their personality just listening to this without taking the tests that just give them signs where hey if you like doing this then you may be more on this side right so you mentioned a few things like okay do you like to connect ideas or do you naturally do that or do you like spending time with people by talking or just being in silence doing an activity what are some other maybe small Interesting ways where that that give away something about themselves that they can then apply

I mean I think with even just introversion versus extroversion right the main way that people see introversion and extroversion it's all about social introversion and extroversion when in reality it's actually not about that at all it's actually talking about are you someone that gets naturally gets a lot of energy From interacting outside with the outside world or are you someone that gets a lot of energy from actually focusing more on your internal world and so what people don't realize is that extraversion can look like so many different things that not actually related to talking with

people or socializing like if you're someone that's like solving problems outside or thinking about problems outside a lot or wanting to try and interact with things Or explore things outside or like um that would actually that actually can still sometimes be an extroverted preference or on the other hand um you could have an introvert and they still like people they still like you know they could be really confident or really charismatic um cuz it doesn't have anything to do with that but um when you look at their preferences sometimes they're liking to sort of like

throttle or like slow down things from the Outside world it's a little bit like let me get have a little extra time to have some space from interacting outside so I can concentrate or reflect go inward a little bit more to um process things internally and so um yeah I think like when people flesh out their understanding of what those two categories are and realizing it actually doesn't have anything to do with your popularity or social confidence or any of that stuff it's actually really Interesting to go oh that that might be why like I

can sort of like give myself some permission to um accept myself or understand some of those differences so going back to the um who you should take advice from I I always had an intuitive sense that there are some people that I just shouldn't listen to because they think differently they operate differently they have a different personality they have different just a different DNA Right so friend of mine was saying yesterday that he he once hired this guy who he was like a confidence type of coach or whatever and he hired him because that guy

just didn't care at all and my friend really did care a lot and he was really hesitant to approach people and he always thought about what other people think right but that that coach he was actually kind of a narcissist he just didn't care at all right and so he was like I want to learn From that guy now I think that could be one approach that seems logical is okay you hire someone who's completely different from you and you see what pieces can you take from them but what I was wondering was what if

he actually hired someone who thought like him and had very similar DNA and figured out the way to deal with that wouldn't that be a much better approach because there are so many ways that these guys are then connected right like I would personally rather learn from someone who has had the same past as me very similar personality but has overcome a challenge that I want to overcome than someone who never struggled with certain things that I had or you know had different struggles so what do you think no I think you're spot on I

mean I I think that sometimes we can like trick or force ourselves into like getting a result from like um these like very Counterintuitive ways but usually the best way is for you to actually get to know yourself get to know what ways do you like processing things or making decisions and then from that you'll understand a little bit more of your blind spots or stress points or areas that you can work on and then I think it usually works best to find the solution but in your own way like what's your what's your instead

of just like hiring a dating Expert or whatever like think about like what ways do you like to connect or what what types of interactions do you find meaningful and then like what barriers are stopping you from that because of your personality then how can you get around that so basically exactly what you said like I mean it just makes sense right it's like the more like personalized or individualized the solution right it's usually going to work better for you so yeah and I think At least when when I know my personality and how I

like to process things and my cognitive functions then at least I know how to filter the information and personalize it to myself so if I hear some entrepreneur that I look up to talk about something and just say hey you just need to stop planning so much and just just go go go and just you know and just talk to people and work and I'm like oh that's not what I like to do I can at least filter the information and And take what's useful leave what's not yeah I think you actually talked about that

in one of your videos um where you were saying like how you got all this advice about how to like execute and plan and optimize all this stuff and then you realize like wait maybe I need to actually like practice ways to like loosen up a little bit or like to leave things a little bit more open right um I think you actually even said it like sometimes We think we're like doing the hard thing but we're actually just like doing what we already like like you know um yeah I think this is where we

get into an interesting discussion about strengths versus weaknesses and which one do you focus on so the I think the post that you that you're referring to uh that I made was actually a newsletter uh so for anyone who's listening check that out and I was basically telling the story of how my roommates and I were meeting once A week to you know just share what we have going on and where we can maybe help each other and it's funny to see how we're all giving different advice and they all happen to be the same

personality type uh which the C campaigner right and I am yeah I'm curious to have have you read me uh later on but uh I'm a different one and so the advice that they're giving they're all they all agreeing and they're like you just got to like just See what's right and feel it out and just you know and just like go with the flow and and meanwhile I'm like you need to push through like you know just just go get stuff done you know and so and we naturally tend to gravitate towards what's what's

comfortable for US versus Let Me Go a different route like for me that would just be like you know let me just post twice a week now I don't know if it's perfectly planned out I like to prepare more but this way I Don't have much time to prepare and it's uncomfortable and I see a lot of growth through that so how do you know what to focus on should you focus on your strengths or should when should you focus on your weaknesses you know the more you learn about your personality type your strengths and

your weaknesses are usually connected right it's like because you're so good at this that means that the opposite way of looking At things or doing things feels uncomfortable for you so actually the the what my colleague and I teach it's like actually more about like finding more balance or like integration with your with your personality type it's like instead of just like over relying on these things which can create some stress points or like one one-sidedness um how can you um uh integrate some of the other sides of your personal type to become a little

Bit more balanced and so it's like is that working on your weaknesses or is that working on your strengths it's hard to say right it's it's just sort of like it's a little bit different but um ultimately it's about being a little bit more precise about what are the ways I could like balance myself out or like not be just like over relying on this thing that I'm really comfortable so for you right executing pushing through like what's the goal like let's step aside From the feelings to get this done like that's more natural for

you mhm I guess it's mostly about uh adaptability and flexibility right yeah cuz sometimes you what you're naturally doing ideally you're in a career where that's the default right where that gets rewarded if you love having things in order hopefully you're an accountant right and so then leaning into those but in moments where that's not needed then being able to lean into the other bucket Or on the other side of the spectrum exactly like if you are like all comfortable with just thinking decisions how can you integrate more feelings right if you uh are like

really liking to trust your concrete experience what are some ways you can like be a little more comfortable like exploring some unknowns or possibilities right how much can be changed like how like okay somebody gets A personality test I think a lot of people they do it and they don't like it like oh no I'm not the one that Albert Einstein is damn it or they read some of their weaknesses and they're like oh this sucks how much can be changed how much what what have you seen do you have any specific examples of people

uh that you've seen change a lot so there's two sides of it right one is getting the accurate type result and one is like growing as a Person right so in terms of like taking the test it's actually very common for people to not get their actual personality type result at first it's usually they're like two one to two letters off usually um um and that's just a flaw with the test or the questions are can be misinterpreted and stuff so on that side of things like from that perspective your personality type can change lots

of times because you're you're you know you might be like Learning more about yourself and like getting more accurate results in terms of like when you land on your actual best fit personality type though I actually don't think that that changes dramatically now some people they like freak out about that they're like no I need to change you know um every personality type is Awesome every personal type is amazing and can do all like has like unlimited potential right um so instead of trying to change your Personality type it's actually more about like how can

you become the best version of your personality type and I don't know sometimes I use the analogy of like playing an instrument or something right it's like you got the six strings of a guitar the six strings of the guitar always stay the same usually but um like how you play that instrument might change dramatically in your 20s or 30s or 40s right and so instead of like freaking out about like What I want these strings to be like totally different strings it's like no it's like let's appreciate the the fact that you're a guitar

um but like how can you like find ways to like play different types of music or like become more expressive or like you know like um improve or whatever with with your core like wiring and preferences so yeah like I don't think your core um when you really land on your best fit type a lot of your natural preferen your natural Preferences don't really change that much but like how those preferences can express themselves um can change drastically B based on your experience your values like mental health like how much you work on yourself all

that sort of stuff that's one of the things I talked about in the uh recent podcast about finding your path in life your passion and something that you're excited about and um yeah I think it's common for people To dislike their results or to want to change them and what I said there too was I mean you can work really hard at becoming something else but then you become a you're going to become really mediocre at it rather than just focusing on how you already like to naturally do things and then you're going to become

exceptional at it yeah totally honestly if you really like learn about each personality type In depth every personality type is so awesome like it's really unfortunate the stereotypes that people have like this personality type's mean or this personality type's boring or this you know none of those are true really when you really get to know it and so like I promise you whatever personality type result you are like when you really land on it it's really awesome there's some amazing like gifts that that personality type brings to the world or like Superpowers it's just like

it might not be represented so well online so what's your personality type and what do you what have you seen is is mine I'm an INTP personality type oh dude that one sucks yeah how you going to change that man honestly in some way yeah like in some ways yeah every personality type is amazing and annoying at the same time um but yeah know like some of the things that my personal type pretty naturally Does is like it I do my own like I'm very into sort of like doing my own thing for my own

reasons so I really like thinking things through for myself and going like what actually makes sense to me other people might be really caring about this or really like thinking this is important or like having a little bit of emotional bias with their decisions I really want to like filter that and question that and um um do what actually makes sense to me And so my strength is sort of like sometimes being like sort of like honest and like analyzing things to um figure out like what's the right fit for me or for like other

people um for you I mean are you comfortable like diving into yeah absolutely um from talking with you in real life um and also seeing your video and lots of different things I mean um I think the personality type fit that M uh makes the most sense is the Entj personality type and so what entjs tend to be really good at is having a little bit of that like what's the goal what's the mission okay now how can we ex execute on this like what's necessary in order to make things work and get things done

and like I have sort of like a guess an intuition I have idea of where I think things should go and I've really like built this guess uh a very specific guess about where I want things to go in my head and now I want to sort Of like really execute on things and like how can we progress with this how can we get results like for your personality type usually like making things progress or like some sort of resource managing is like very uh satisfying music to my ears I think it's SP on I

I I remember testing earlier in a video 3 years ago about finding a passion and I tested as ENFJ yeah and that sounded very accurate too um but Entj yeah it seems more it seems more accurate so I think uh I think we talked about this at at um vidsummit right I was like I think you might want to look at Ian TJ but um the the the thing is is it's actually really common though for the to get uh for an entj to get an ENFJ result because um the stereotypes right are that like

feelers are nice and care about people and thinkers just like want to get results um but in reality if you really Get to know um entjs they love helping people they actually really care about people but the ways that they like helping are going to be a little bit different from an ENFJ yes tell them Eric tell them tell them that I care about people seriously cuz some people are like oh yeah this is you yeah these are like people who don't care about people it's like oh that doesn't resonate with Me at all um

no no no no but it I think it can be um people can experience me as um impatient or you know when not handled well it can be seen as cold right because sometimes I just like everyone everyone's like pedling someone or just like enabling them to to continue this pattern and just like no it's fine I'm like look yo this is not fine you you're messing you're messing Up like your your life and like I got to I got because I care about you I got to tell you how it is and um yeah

so yeah sometimes with thinking types they're like the way I will help you is by being really honest and like it'll hurt a little bit but like ultimately it'll help you it might help you like solve your problem better that you were stuck on um and so some or sometimes this is um we need to just take the emotion out of this to like look like measure this a Little bit objectively and that can sort of hurt but like it'll it'll help you I promise so like usually with thinkers the growth area is just going

like I know you care about people I know you help want to help people but like just integrate a little bit more feeling in into the into it and it'll like it'll work great um it's funny cuz that's exactly that's exactly what I was going to say now um having done a leadership program in the Last few months and and and like just working on myself uh focusing on different areas of my life the biggest thing that I've learned now is to just be with someone and when they complain about their problems I'm just like

ah that sucks and I really just feel it and I don't go into advice mode at all I'm just like you know until they ask me and then friends of mine have told me like you've really changed and I'm like yeah It's really just that it's just like accepting everyone exactly for who they are and celebrating them and when they have problems by the way that helps a lot with dating like for me with with with the the the other the other sex um I mean that has been a a challenge in the past that

I always wanted to support them and always you know let's okay let's this problem it's like no yeah no just be with them and it's sort of hard though right it's sort of uncomfortable Or it feels like you're not helping it can be especially when like you have you have the magic pill that they could just just take this it'll go away but you're just like you just have you just keep it in your pocket and you're like oh that really sucks that really sucks doesn't it that really tell me more about that it's hurting

you and how do that makes you feel yeah yeah totally um yeah like I I also have like a thinking preference Really high um and so I I run into those situations all the time but yeah like for me the growth is like remembering that feelings are a part of the solution and so actually what I've heard from a lot of feelers is like it's not like they're illogical they or that they don't like Solutions but sometimes maybe in the moment they might not be there's a feeling that needs to be solved first and then

once the feeling is solved by support or understanding or whatever Then there's space for the solution or whatever like analyzing it um but in the moment like sometimes when you're skipping over the feelings it feels very like upsetting it's like oh so you you don't care about you know this thing so just yeah for it can really feel like I'm doing nothing I'm just listening right um but sometimes that's like exactly the best thing to do oh absolutely and I I I've learned to love it I've learned to love To just hold space for people

and just be like okay tell me more and just really be in the feeling with them and I'm I think I'm actually very balanced on the feeling portion because even for myself I cannot do something if I'm not Juiced up by it I just can't it just like pushing through emotions is actually it's actually difficult for me and I think that's one of the gifts that I have is that I have a I have a low pain tolerance so when something's not Working or something I don't enjoy something I I I can't really get behind

it for too long yeah that's actually another side of your personality so yeah so what are some ways that people can apply this into the their real life like one of the things that comes up is dating right yeah just I think just knowing not necessarily looking for someone specific like I think you mentioned this before um before we Started recording not looking for someone specifically based on that personality type but just getting to know your significant other getting to know your roommates your family your friends and then knowing what their internal map of the

world is and how they right yeah honestly like just just understanding the letters the uh the basic dichotomies the ABCs of it um without getting into functions it's already super powerful Like just knowing some of these core differences introversion versus extroversion thinking versus feeling um I would I would just recommend people like just falling in love with those and then like get seeing more real examples of it in real life and it will really help you with um like all sorts of communication and relationships and then from there it's not actually just about like putting

people into a box or stereotyping them it's actually about um Yeah finding ways to appreciate or understand where different people are coming from like not everyone thinks like you dude like not Everyone likes doing things exactly the same way as you and so instead of like a lot of times like in a relationship right you think what you're doing is helping but it's actually like not for the other person and so yeah it's like a good way to figure out how to take care of other people and um from like when you're Trying to grow

or work on yourself a lot of times it's it's by working on like sort of your opposite so for instance like if you're extroverted like how can you get a little bit better with introversion right if you're intuitive how can you get better with sensing if you're thinking how can you get better with feeling and then so that's like sort of a very easy map to be able to go I might be actually not as good at the feeling Thing as I thought you know like how can I like put some effort into that and

that's going to help help you as a person um so yeah just like figure out what your personality type is and then sort of figure out what the opposite is which is usually like the things that will balance you out and then that's like a great starting point for everyone I think the big question in my mind and maybe also the people's mind is what about the whole focusing your strength Thing and the way I categorize that in my mind is that yes you want to in your career and in your life you want to

optimize you want to you want to find a lane where what where your strengths uh can can shine and at the same time sometimes the weakest link is what can destroy your results in life in relationships right and so balancing those out will will release some bottlenecks right and So well I'm curious for you I mean the people that you've really connected with this could be romantically or even just in friends do they tend to be the your favorite people in your life or the people that are lifegiving to you do you tend to find

them that they're really similar to you like exactly the same as you or opposite I know that I really resonate with people who are the same like even just like online like content that I Consume I'm like this guy gets it like yes I like I like the way he thinks it's highly applicable that's why I'm such a big I'm a big fan of Tony Robbins and how he approaches things he's also entj and I'm like it just makes sense the way he does it and to me it's like it's perfect right it's like um

in my life I don't have a lot of entjs around me I think I have a lot of entps yeah those are just they just happen to be Entrepreneurial as well right and so interesting I know that my entp friends they're all about marketing they're all about okay selling and marketing and promoting right um the personality type is called the C the campaigner right whereas I find myself focusing on the product more let me just make that thing so good and then marketing is going to get easy interesting yeah I think um I think again

the core of a successful Relationship whether it's relationship or friendship it it all again goes back to like how well do you know yourself and like what's important to you what are your values right um any personality type combination can actually be really special but it does like the make or break is like how well have you worked on yourself how well do you know yourself how well do you um you know what are your values and so I think I think like again like personality typ Ty Doesn't solve everything but it is like a

good starter pack tool kit to be able to go like for instance introversion versus extraversion do you want to be like the same in that category or different cuz each one is going to bring a little bit different you get two introverts together they're going to be very internal and that's going to be really special in some ways but really annoying in some ways um you get extrovert two Extroverts together really fun but sometimes maybe like a little bit one-sided as well and then sometimes you're okay then we're opting for an introvert and an extrovert

well that's Al also going to cause some problem or like have some challenges because you're different right so it's like knowing what uh what helps you right um what is the best version of yourself and like usually that takes like experience and like talking to more people and getting To know yourself to like no like and that's just again that's just one letter introvert versus expert imagine like if you like do that for all of them um you already like have plenty of material to like uh start gauging oh I actually do like things this

way this way or like this is this is what I prefer the way I look at it is learning different languages as well because if I if I don't know how I like to process things and then transfer them To you yes because I don't know how you like to process things or what you care about and how you like to approach things then I can't really communicate things well to you or it's a hit or miss yeah right it's like sometimes things resonate and sometimes it's like uh I don't know about that one yeah

so yeah I think it's because it's a crucial skill for leadership is being able to I at least I like to adjust my approach to the person that I'm speaking to because I I think it just makes me more effective and that's what I care about I'm entj so how can you speak more effectively how can you communicate more effectively how can you take care of someone more effectively um by speaking their language right um it's that's this that's the power of like learning about personality differences and yeah I I like love the topic so

much I love nerding about out about it so much what Do you say to people who say hey this personality stuff that's that's not scientific that's not legit it's it's BS yeah that's a that's a really good topic I think um with um most I haven't really seen someone that has really dived in and really understands the material and what it's about who has that opinion um so um usually the cases I like any tool in the wrong hands is either dangerous or can hurt people or can be like sort of like uh you know

not bring the best Results um but usually the things that people are frust frustated uh about are um it's usually because people are misunderstanding the tool and what it's about or like misusing it so sometimes they're like I'm only going to hire these personality types or I'm you know like um I'm going to fire this person because they're this person you know that's that's obviously like like that's not very ethical you know that's not ethical that's not what the framework is Even for the core of Myers Briggs is like it's not a tool for limiting

or stereotyping people it's actually for learning about yourself and learning how to like work better together with other people so yeah the two from there the two things that people sometimes like um oh the other core thing about Myers Briggs is it's trying to talk about your natural preferences right so like what's your favorite way of looking at things and making decisions that's it that's That's what it that's what it is like let's not try to take things beyond that scope usually the the challenges that people have are either people using it to stereotype or

limit people or they um don't trust the results and usually it's because they're either thinking that the test is talking about Behavior not cognition or they don't understand what the letters are about and so they have gotten the wrong result by accident and so they're like this doesn't this isn't Me and it's like yeah that that's true that isn't you I feel like it's a bit of a catch 22 sometimes as well because if you take the test and you don't know yourself really well yeah then then you end up giving the wrong answers that

are not accurate but it's just what society's told you what you know other people have told you and 100% like if I went if I if I went to Germany I am way more flu it than everyone there right and so I would then Take the test and be like Oh I'm actually really like I love breaking rules I love you know when I'm in in in South America then I'm like you know I'm like okay I love structure I'm like so much more structur than everyone here right yeah so that's what what I think

it trips people up one thing I've also found is that when somebody doesn't like this stuff and they kind of you know have have some problems with it I'm like are you an entp are you the beta because The NP is the debat right and so I'm like okay yeah of course of course you don't like being put into a box I understand you know so that's something I've also seen right yeah sometimes there's there's certain person D types that are like naturally more curious about it and more drawn to it and then others where

it takes a little bit more convincing or they need to see it a little bit more app um in real life I think again like it's unfortunate CU It's such a powerful tool but there's so many like if people really just understood and got to know what the categories are like what is introversion versus extroversion and what isn't it like a lot of people don't have on the blogs or the whatever you don't get that like more in-depth information about like actually um what the letters are talking about and what but when people really experience

what what the letters Are actually talking about usually they don't have the the problems or complaints that they had before mhm um the way I see it is just a useful tool yeah it's just it's just a useful tool um are there any other big challenges that you see between specific personality types or cognitive functions so we talked about thinking versus feeling right that was I think is a really good example where people can look at their own life and be like Oh I'm this one side and this other person that sometimes I have problems

with in Conflict yeah they're this other type and okay now I can understand are there any other big ones thinking and feelings a big one I mean literally every single one is a big one I mean like you got judging versus perceiving you know someone's like oh I'll help like the best vacation is when it's like super planned out and then the other person's like please no that's Horrible um you know and then um intuition versus sensing sometimes that's like what that's really hard because like what you're finding interesting and meaningful might be super like

like boring or uninteresting to the other person right and so like how can you bridge that Gap to go oh I'm intuitive and I totally forgot to say the Act Like be specific about or clear about what I was actually talking about um um I forgot to give examples I forgot To like make it concrete um I was just sort of like in abstract la la land with no examples um and then in the other hand it's like um with the sensing preference type sometimes it's like Oh I thought I was helping by giving you

all the details and specifics right you're telling me if I had just given you like the big picture of like why we're doing this or like what it's all about then you could have heard all the details but actually you just like skipped over all That and like like um jumped over that cuz that's like not the information that you're naturally focusing on um and so it's super helpful and yeah intuition versus sensing is like a huge one it's like how can you be more clear to the other person how can people take the test

and get the most accurate results the I've I've always I've spent like years trying to find like the perfect test or the perfect whatever and there are some really good Ones out there but I think think they all have their flaws and the flaws are just because you can't you can't optimize a test for people's blind spots like everyone everyone will interpret whatever question into whatever and some personality types will naturally have some difficulties with some of the questions um or like knowing themselves right so the not fun answer is that all the tests will

probably have some downsides or challenges and um The the the reality is is like the best thing to find your best fit type is to spend time getting to know the framework what it means then testing it in reality like getting to know people talking with people going like seeing what an intuitive and a sensing preference actually looks like and like testing it out in real life and then when you get to know the framework more you can uh choose for yourself a lot more accurately Um what your best personality type is a lot the

problem is is a lot of people just approximate what what each of the categories is talking about it's like I like interesting conversations I'm an intuitive you know I I like people I like taking care of people I'm a feeler right so it's when in reality the categories are like so much more than that so no tests just learning the framework going about your life and seeing how you already naturally Approach things I mean that's what the any test is trying to simulate anyway right it's it's just asking a question how do you like to

do this and then basically just taking a test for yourself throughout your life the um sometimes so like so um you know one of the things that I offer as a service is um like for some people who want to go really in depth uh my colleague and I we do something called a profiling session and so through conversation we'll talk With someone for like 2 hours and like really like get to know them ask them about themselves ask them about their background and like give them little scenarios and stuff and then see what preferences

keep popping up more consistently over time um so obviously that's going to uh help get more accurate results and for someone who's just curious and wants to get a quick read what would be the best test to take online honestly 16personalities.com Chances are high you will not quite get the right result but at least it'll point you in the right direction that's what as long as people know that right yeah if you know going in that it might be like one or two letters off at least it'll point you in the right direction and it'll

give you sort of like a good starting point any other thing that you want to point people to uh I have two channels but um the main one that people Can find me on it's Eric W I like teaching people about their personality patterns and how they can use personality types to like get better results in their relationships and communication all that sort of stuff and then for people who want to dig into some of the cognitive function stuff I nerd out a little bit more on a second Channel and that's called think more deeply

awesome I'll go ahead and Link those below uh as well your channel and Um yeah this was great thank you so much of course yeah thanks so much for having me