how much revenue you've generated from buzzle up until this point or maybe expected Revenue clients closed I think we've closed 8 deals we've attributed some of that so like probably 90k in profit so far I think we've got 27 deals in the pipeline we run cold emails for probably one of the smallest niches that we've ever worked with and we completely turned it around over the course of about 11 months we booked over 165 sales calls for this manufacturing company and took their business to new heights and in this video you'll hear from the owner
himself exactly what we did and how we did it to make it happen hey Josh good to see you again thanks for joining us here today we appreciate it yeah guys good to see you good to see you too good to see you too um so the GU artist here today would you mind just telling us a little bit more about PR t-o and what you guys bring to the table yes so my company is product Evo the founder and CEO we've been doing product development manufacturing for companies for about 10 years so we're the
company that people hire when they get that brilliant idea and they want to make their product reality they hire us to figure out how to design it manufacture it produce it form a scale and uh yeah Josh so we've uh obviously enjoyed working with you we've had plenty of success and I think it goes back to we've been working together for about 11 months now I think it was at the start of the new year you all decided to partner together with us um and right out of the gates it might be a hard question
kind of answer because I know we have a lot of opportunities in the pipeline but do you have any idea like how much revenue uh you've generated from buzzle up into this point or maybe expected revenue or clients closed if you had a rough estimate yeah so I think we've closed eight deals we we tend to deal with pretty high value clients so it's been good for us um and we've attributed some of that so like probably 90k in profit so far but they're ongoing contracts and so we anticipate the deals closed uh being much
more valuable to us over time as we we engage with them longer but then right before we got on the call I checked and I think we've got 27 deals in the pipeline right now that are qualified lead to you know pending closed dates so it's been a little bit to get it ramped up and really dialed in but there's a lot of momentum that's that's there in that pipeline 27 I'd love to hear that all right that's a lot about bats we can take home and uh try to hit some home runs here yeah
so when we go back to the start of this relationship ship here back in I think January deck batch it's like what were some of the main challenges that you had faced before working with us that had kept you guys from growing pretty consistently at that point I mean when it comes to email marketing there were plenty we tried to do our own email marketing outbound for close to well I think for over two years and so some of the things we dealt with is we needed the data and the best place we knew to
look for the data was like Zoom info there's a few others like cognism and stuff that we looked at that but Zoom info seemed like the best not cheap I think the package we got with them was 25 to 30k a year and we had to do that for 2 years and it was just brutally expensive and honestly the data is not that good I mean it's good but everybody has access to the data and um yeah so we struggled with that a bit that was very expensive and then I had to hire a lead
researcher which is out of Philippines she worked full-time to apply the filters through Zoom info but then she had to go scrub the data even further because the filters would only get us so far so it took us a while to kind of figure out a good workflow on that and then that was just the beginning of our problems I mean I was na even enough to think well email marketing like I just have to I got HubSpot I'm just going to load these leads in the HubSpot send it out it was a massive failure
and I'm a pretty good copywriter and I kept scratching my head as to why and it felt like email marketing was this never ending unfolding process of the next thing I didn't know so I thought I just needed leads and some good copy and the rest would just kind of work itself out as I optimized the campaign but what we found was there's so many technical requirements to email marketing that was like this NeverEnding circus of just figuring out the next thing so we we eventually I think when we realized HubSpot was horrible for email
marketing and we were burning our primary domain emails by sending emails on our Prim primary to make cuz we didn't know any better so all of a sudden like our core customers are starting to tell us they're not getting emails from us so we're like why we sent the PE over and they're finding it and spam and that was a whole nightmare to get like our primary domain cleaned up so then I figured out okay well now we need like we need to not send from our primary domain and did research and you know bought
additional domains got them set up on other software and we kept getting better and better but at some point I just realized the amount of effort we're putting into figuring this out it's it's never ending and we're I see potential we were able to generate some good clients that way but um it was just demanding so much of my time I think I eventually assembl across you guys and this is what you specialize in like this is all you do so like my whole learning curve you guys had already figured out and we ended up
taking a a chance on you guys and you got it up and running I think in a matter of like weeks to a month what I've been trying to do in 2 years so so that made our life quite a bit easier for sure yeah I could yeah we spent a lot of days on the trenches working on domains so yeah and and one one thing that really stood out to me Josh is like because I think a lot of people that we speak with business owners in general and maybe what used to be the
case is a lot of people look at like email marketing as like you know you spend a couple of hundred bucks spend one weekend and then you've got a system to just get you meetings for as long as you want you basically just need to add more data keep it going and then you're going to have you know a full calendar and that's what a lot of people um assume but they don't look into like a lot of the technicalities behind it domain health and domain reputation like email deliverability ongoing lists so being able to
find new unta data that way you're not having diminishing returns by going after the same people every single month um but it sounds like the biggest thing was like the ongoing management of that and then the costs for Zoom info alone plus an employee ended up costing you you know tens of thousands of dollars as is plus you've got to manage that it seems like the bandwidth was kind of like the the the big granular issue between everything and I guess like looking at uh the relationship with buzzle like how have we helped those bandwidth
issues like specifically has it been just kind of like you don't even have to look at it or have has it just been um anything like specific that like stuck out stood out with us what it be like list building process or the whole campaign orchestration that really help you CH like tackle that challenge and get your mind off alound marketing yourself yeah yeah um I don't I don't really even put any thought into it anymore other than our weekly meetings and just kind of fine-tuning things but it took something that was probably demanding easily
between 10 and 15 hours of my week every week down to maybe an hour where we touch base um which is massive for me and I was I was a slow Comber cuz I'm cautious I've been burned by a lot of agencies before and so I did keep my own outbound going in the background for probably the first quarter or two that we worked together cuz I I just didn't want to like completely stop cold if you guys weren't going to deliver um but it didn't take long before you guys were outperforming my internal team
by like 5x in terms of booking meetings and at that point I'm like this doesn't make any sense to put any more time into it um so we kind of killed our own internal efforts and just let you guys rock and roll without yeah that that that's a really interesting point so you have this going on in the background and I absolutely encourage all of our prospects and clients that come to us of like go and else go and see what else exists out of the market I encourage you to do it yourself before you
come to work with us because I want you to have that share experience because then we can grow work here together effectively so if you're having this internal constant within for cold email just for like scientific trial purposes like what would you say was unique or different from what we did versus what you guys did to get those 5x results um U some of the things that have really impressed me is I thought after 2 years and all the technical Hoops we had jumped through like we were getting pretty sophisticated I think we were running
like 15 different domains and and working with instantly as the software and like we kept getting smarter but then the level sophistication you guys brought into it like where where and how you get your data has always impressed me like you guys do some pretty creative things to pull some leads that not everybody's getting which I mean even when you told me what you were doing to do it it's like that that's cool I don't even want to mess with that like that's so many steps to get it and clean it up so that that
was really impressive I think we were split testing campaigns I think you guys took that to an even deeper level of like split testing and optimizing until you got the message really connecting so those were a couple of things that jumped out to me that and then is I thought I was doing good with the number of domains I I was using to keep any one domain sanitized and good and I think you guys probably did like 3x what I thought was the max I would ever need just to really keep those domains deliverable uh
so those are a few of the things that jumped out yeah and just to kind of add on what goes on behind the scenes because it does seem like we're adding way too many email accounts we're like how are we going to physically send this many emails when there's not this many people to reach out to but a big part of like our process in my back end is really split testing different changes and things that we could do that have an impact on deliverability so a lot of times it's trying out a different email
sending software or it could be changing the email service provider that we're using to physically send the emails um and then going back to like the data piece cuz that's what I live in I live breathe eat and sleep data and uh over two years it's not like we just went to zoom info and pulled a list there or went to Apollo and pulled a list there we're going to Ocean and finding lookalikes we're finding Shopify customers literally we're finding company data from all these different places and then finding emails that the average Joe just
doesn't even know where to look begin to look to think to find that um and I uh all that split testing it's really made an impact and of course it's a partnership so it's like over the long term a lot of agencies where they fall short is they have a good first second and third month then they run out of data their domains go bad and then they just kind of churn whereas with us we kind of look at it as more of like a a long-term partnership how can we have longevity in the partnership
and make sure that the leads are qualified um and that we're reaching new people so um it's been a fun partnership fun fun Journey all together and you guys have helped us be successful by knowing EX back what problems you solve and different markets that we could potentially go after cuz it just makes the total adjustable Market much bigger and data list building much easier on land so yeah and I'd say what I'd say one of the unique Parts about our relationship too is like you started us off with a really pretty solid cheat sheet
of like the problems that you were solving based on those copyrighting techniques where you go back to your copyrighting skills that now that's like a helpful bipar activ where you're able to like participate in of like this is what we're seeing that's working this is what we're seeing that's not that's like helping in inform strategy and so we always just like grow together in that way and that's been uh really powerful for my go to market strategies I'm sure yeah I'll second B like I mean you guys kind of got success right out the gate
we started seeing results quickly but to your point Nick you know after 3 months this was anything but done I think we've really seen good results from the beginning but I think we've seen our best results just in the last couple months CU I think it keeps getting dialed in further honestly we're seeing more more leads booked or more calls booked than way we have so that's fun to see yeah and absolutely I mean we uh had our ups Downs now I think we're kind of out the gates running and hopefully we can twox from
where we are right now but it's been an absolute pleasure and I guess like the last question to kind of like wrap things up is for anybody else out there that might be looking to do email marketing or just you know scale their revenue would you recommend you know buzzle to anybody else out there yeah 100% and uh I've already these guys know I've already sent multiple businesses their way um really proud happy to recommend you guys to anybody You' kicked butt and like you know the way I introduce you to others I'm like they're
just Scrappy they figure it out they're going to get it done and I think that's the highest compliment I can pay to other entrepreneurs as people that are just like genuinely care all entrepreneurship is hard every business is hard it's who's really committed who's Scrappy enough to just keep working through it and get things figured out and that's that's what impresses me got to have that great got to have that scrappiness at the end of the day to see it through 100% I agree I agree well Josh thank you for joining us here today we
appreciate the conversation and share a little bit more on your experience here working with us yeah happy to you guys I'm not Josh if you want us to book you an additional 10 to 20 ready to buy leads to your calendar for your business every single month click on that link down here below and let's find some time to chat talk to you soon how much revenue you've generated from buzzle up until this point or maybe expected Revenue clients closed I think we've closed 8 deals we've attributed some of that so like probably 90k in
profit so far I think we've got 27 deals in the pipeline we run cold emails for probably one of the smallest niches that we've ever worked with and we completely turned it around over the course of about 11 months we booked over 165 sales calls for this manufacturing company and took their business to new heights and in this video you'll hear from the owner himself exactly what we did and how we did it to make it happen hey Josh good to see you again thanks for joining us here today we appreciate it yeah guys good
to see you good to see you too good to see you too um so the GU artist here today would you mind just telling us a little bit more about PR t-o and what you guys bring to the table yes so my company is product Evo the founder and CEO we've been doing product development manufacturing for companies for about 10 years so we're the company that people hire when they get that brilliant idea and they want to make their product reality they hire us to figure out how to design it manufacture it produce it form
a scale and uh yeah Josh so we've uh obviously enjoyed working with you we've had plenty of success and I think it goes back to we've been working together for about 11 months now I think it was at the start of the new year you all decided to partner together with us um and right out of the gates it might be a hard question kind of answer because I know we have a lot of opportunities in the pipeline but do you have any idea like how much revenue uh you've generated from buzzle up into this
point or maybe expected revenue or clients closed if you had a rough estimate yeah so I think we've closed eight deals we we tend to deal with pretty high value clients so it's been good for us um and we've attributed some of that so like probably 90k in profit so far but they're ongoing contracts and so we anticipate the deals closed uh being much more valuable to us over time as we we engage with them longer but then right before we got on the call I checked and I think we've got 27 deals in the
pipeline right now that are qualified lead to you know pending closed dates so it's been a little bit to get it ramped up and really dialed in but there's a lot of momentum that's that's there in that pipeline 27 I'd love to hear that all right that's a lot about bats we can take home and uh try to hit some home runs here yeah so when we go back to the start of this relationship ship here back in I think January deck batch it's like what were some of the main challenges that you had faced
before working with us that had kept you guys from growing pretty consistently at that point I mean when it comes to email marketing there were plenty we tried to do our own email marketing outbound for close to well I think for over two years and so some of the things we dealt with is we needed the data and the best place we knew to look for the data was like Zoom info there's a few others like cognism and stuff that we looked at that but Zoom info seemed like the best not cheap I think the
package we got with them was 25 to 30k a year and we had to do that for 2 years and it was just brutally expensive and honestly the data is not that good I mean it's good but everybody has access to the data and um yeah so we struggled with that a bit that was very expensive and then I had to hire a lead researcher which is out of Philippines she worked full-time to apply the filters through Zoom info but then she had to go scrub the data even further because the filters would only get
us so far so it took us a while to kind of figure out a good workflow on that and then that was just the beginning of our problems I mean I was na even enough to think well email marketing like I just have to I got HubSpot I'm just going to load these leads in the HubSpot send it out it was a massive failure and I'm a pretty good copywriter and I kept scratching my head as to why and it felt like email marketing was this never ending unfolding process of the next thing I didn't
know so I thought I just needed leads and some good copy and the rest would just kind of work itself out as I optimized the campaign but what we found was there's so many technical requirements to email marketing that was like this NeverEnding circus of just figuring out the next thing so we we eventually I think when we realized HubSpot was horrible for email marketing and we were burning our primary domain emails by sending emails on our Prim primary to make cuz we didn't know any better so all of a sudden like our core customers
are starting to tell us they're not getting emails from us so we're like why we sent the PE over and they're finding it and spam and that was a whole nightmare to get like our primary domain cleaned up so then I figured out okay well now we need like we need to not send from our primary domain and did research and you know bought additional domains got them set up on other software and we kept getting better and better but at some point I just realized the amount of effort we're putting into figuring this out
it's it's never ending and we're I see potential we were able to generate some good clients that way but um it was just demanding so much of my time I think I eventually assembl across you guys and this is what you specialize in like this is all you do so like my whole learning curve you guys had already figured out and we ended up taking a a chance on you guys and you got it up and running I think in a matter of like weeks to a month what I've been trying to do in 2
years so so that made our life quite a bit easier for sure yeah I could yeah we spent a lot of days on the trenches working on domains so yeah and and one one thing that really stood out to me Josh is like because I think a lot of people that we speak with business owners in general and maybe what used to be the case is a lot of people look at like email marketing as like you know you spend a couple of hundred bucks spend one weekend and then you've got a system to just
get you meetings for as long as you want you basically just need to add more data keep it going and then you're going to have you know a full calendar and that's what a lot of people um assume but they don't look into like a lot of the technicalities behind it domain health and domain reputation like email deliverability ongoing lists so being able to find new unta data that way you're not having diminishing returns by going after the same people every single month um but it sounds like the biggest thing was like the ongoing management
of that and then the costs for Zoom info alone plus an employee ended up costing you you know tens of thousands of dollars as is plus you've got to manage that it seems like the bandwidth was kind of like the the the big granular issue between everything and I guess like looking at uh the relationship with buzzle like how have we helped those bandwidth issues like specifically has it been just kind of like you don't even have to look at it or have has it just been um anything like specific that like stuck out stood
out with us what it be like list building process or the whole campaign orchestration that really help you CH like tackle that challenge and get your mind off alound marketing yourself yeah yeah um I don't I don't really even put any thought into it anymore other than our weekly meetings and just kind of fine-tuning things but it took something that was probably demanding easily between 10 and 15 hours of my week every week down to maybe an hour where we touch base um which is massive for me and I was I was a slow Comber
cuz I'm cautious I've been burned by a lot of agencies before and so I did keep my own outbound going in the background for probably the first quarter or two that we worked together cuz I I just didn't want to like completely stop cold if you guys weren't going to deliver um but it didn't take long before you guys were outperforming my internal team by like 5x in terms of booking meetings and at that point I'm like this doesn't make any sense to put any more time into it um so we kind of killed our
own internal efforts and just let you guys rock and roll without yeah that that that's a really interesting point so you have this going on in the background and I absolutely encourage all of our prospects and clients that come to us of like go and else go and see what else exists out of the market I encourage you to do it yourself before you come to work with us because I want you to have that share experience because then we can grow work here together effectively so if you're having this internal constant within for cold
email just for like scientific trial purposes like what would you say was unique or different from what we did versus what you guys did to get those 5x results um U some of the things that have really impressed me is I thought after 2 years and all the technical Hoops we had jumped through like we were getting pretty sophisticated I think we were running like 15 different domains and and working with instantly as the software and like we kept getting smarter but then the level sophistication you guys brought into it like where where and how
you get your data has always impressed me like you guys do some pretty creative things to pull some leads that not everybody's getting which I mean even when you told me what you were doing to do it it's like that that's cool I don't even want to mess with that like that's so many steps to get it and clean it up so that that was really impressive I think we were split testing campaigns I think you guys took that to an even deeper level of like split testing and optimizing until you got the message really
connecting so those were a couple of things that jumped out to me that and then is I thought I was doing good with the number of domains I I was using to keep any one domain sanitized and good and I think you guys probably did like 3x what I thought was the max I would ever need just to really keep those domains deliverable uh so those are a few of the things that jumped out yeah and just to kind of add on what goes on behind the scenes because it does seem like we're adding way
too many email accounts we're like how are we going to physically send this many emails when there's not this many people to reach out to but a big part of like our process in my back end is really split testing different changes and things that we could do that have an impact on deliverability so a lot of times it's trying out a different email sending software or it could be changing the email service provider that we're using to physically send the emails um and then going back to like the data piece cuz that's what I
live in I live breathe eat and sleep data and uh over two years it's not like we just went to zoom info and pulled a list there or went to Apollo and pulled a list there we're going to Ocean and finding lookalikes we're finding Shopify customers literally we're finding company data from all these different places and then finding emails that the average Joe just doesn't even know where to look begin to look to think to find that um and I uh all that split testing it's really made an impact and of course it's a partnership
so it's like over the long term a lot of agencies where they fall short is they have a good first second and third month then they run out of data their domains go bad and then they just kind of churn whereas with us we kind of look at it as more of like a a long-term partnership how can we have longevity in the partnership and make sure that the leads are qualified um and that we're reaching new people so um it's been a fun partnership fun fun Journey all together and you guys have helped us
be successful by knowing EX back what problems you solve and different markets that we could potentially go after cuz it just makes the total adjustable Market much bigger and data list building much easier on land so yeah and I'd say what I'd say one of the unique Parts about our relationship too is like you started us off with a really pretty solid cheat sheet of like the problems that you were solving based on those copyrighting techniques where you go back to your copyrighting skills that now that's like a helpful bipar activ where you're able to
like participate in of like this is what we're seeing that's working this is what we're seeing that's not that's like helping in inform strategy and so we always just like grow together in that way and that's been uh really powerful for my go to market strategies I'm sure yeah I'll second B like I mean you guys kind of got success right out the gate we started seeing results quickly but to your point Nick you know after 3 months this was anything but done I think we've really seen good results from the beginning but I think
we've seen our best results just in the last couple months CU I think it keeps getting dialed in further honestly we're seeing more more leads booked or more calls booked than way we have so that's fun to see yeah and absolutely I mean we uh had our ups Downs now I think we're kind of out the gates running and hopefully we can twox from where we are right now but it's been an absolute pleasure and I guess like the last question to kind of like wrap things up is for anybody else out there that might
be looking to do email marketing or just you know scale their revenue would you recommend you know buzzle to anybody else out there yeah 100% and uh I've already these guys know I've already sent multiple businesses their way um really proud happy to recommend you guys to anybody You' kicked butt and like you know the way I introduce you to others I'm like they're just Scrappy they figure it out they're going to get it done and I think that's the highest compliment I can pay to other entrepreneurs as people that are just like genuinely care
all entrepreneurship is hard every business is hard it's who's really committed who's Scrappy enough to just keep working through it and get things figured out and that's that's what impresses me got to have that great got to have that scrappiness at the end of the day to see it through 100% I agree I agree well Josh thank you for joining us here today we appreciate the conversation and share a little bit more on your experience here working with us yeah happy to you guys I'm not Josh if you want us to book you an additional
10 to 20 ready to buy leads to your calendar for your business every single month click on that link down here below and let's find some time to chat talk to you soon
