Children of Dictators | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

[Music] hello everybody I am Robert Evans and this is behind the bastards the show where we tell you everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history today with me is my former boss at cracked and current boss at stuff media Jack O'Brien it me Jack O'Brien and today Jack Attack we are talking about the children of dictators which I know you uh you just had another Kid I did um yeah and you're you're kind of like the podcast equivalent of a dictator yeah yeah yeah so there might be some tips

here okay I didn't realize that's how we were coming at this yeah okay uh I feel like you can empathize with the the father's ever hit the father figures okay yeah well at least you can give me some you know I'm not I don't have kids so I I may not know if something's actually a good parenting tactic right yeah uh yeah well my Children are two and two weeks old so uh I I have yet to be able to [ __ ] them up totally given one of them control of either a soccer team

or a military unit not yet okay okay third birthday gonna be a lot of that in this podcast all right uh I've spent most of the last week reading about the various children of dictators there's a number of sources for this podcast which I'll go through as we read them but I do want to upfront plug a Book called children of monsters by Jay nordlinger uh it's a great book uh I'll be referencing it regularly here there are a lot of players in this podcast so I kind of figured my best bet would be to

start with a dictator who I think was probably the best parent out of all of them Fidel Castro um I am not saying Fidel was a good parent he was terrible by every normal measure of being a dad but none of his kids grew up to be Mass raping Mass Torturing monsters and that counts as a win on this list oh boy um so Castro's oldest son was fidelito uh Castro divorce fidelito's mom mirta early and fled to Mexico to wage his Revolution from afar fidolito's Mom's family was well connected in Cuban politics so obviously

Castro hated them and he hated that his kid lived with them because they were you know bougie as [ __ ] uh when fidolito was six Castro asked nicely if he could have his kid For a two-week visit Murda said yes and sent him over and Castro kidnapped him but not only did he kidnap him he didn't even kidnap him to raise him himself he kidnapped him and put him with a foster family that he thought would do a better job than the kids actual mom that is some dictatorship it's like you should be over

here these are better parents for you than your mom and certainly better than me that's great um so Murda had to get the Mexican Government to help her re-kidnap her son uh three months later but in 1959 when fidelito was nine Castro took power his mother sent him over from New York to visit his dad again because she thought he should know know his dad even though he'd already kidnapped him once which is maybe a questionable call from a mom but I mean so far this is exactly the story of my two-year-old so keep going

yeah fidelito went over to Cuba to see his dad who was you know the new Dictator of Cuba they post together on top of tanks and basically Castro treated him as a prop uh um fun dictator stuff yeah fun dictator stuff and a few months after those tank photos were taken there was a horrible car accident fidolito got into um he was badly injured he went into surgery to have his spleen removed on the same night Fidel Castro was set to address a bunch of reporters on TV uh the children of monsters book quotes a

Biography of Castro called gorilla Prince uh which is both a solid name for a rap album uh and which I'll also quote uh because you know it's great so this is the night Castro's talking to a bunch of press people uh while his son is getting surgery and he's clearly set all this up so all these journalists uh are talking to him but instead of asking him normal questions they're all asking him like why aren't you leaving to go see your son why aren't you leaving to go See your son and uh finally one of

them says come on Dante Castro who is it who rules in Cuba and Castro shouts back the people and then the journalist says well then the people want you to go see your son and so at this Castro turns around and drives off to see his kid so like his son gets in an accident and he's like how can I spin this for good PR right um so fidelito became a celebrity in Cuba and he seems to have hated it uh Castro eventually pulled him out of the line Limelight and sent him to study nuclear

physics in the Soviet Union like you do he became the head of Cuba's atomic energy Commission in 1980. uh he was not good at the job um no he wound up getting removed from the position 12 years later in 92 we don't know why exactly but it probably had something to do with the joint Cuban Russian nuclear reactor there's a great article about this reactor on Gizmodo And the title of the article kind of tells you the story The Abandoned communist reactor that would have killed us all so this reactor that Castro's son was presiding

over uh they basically found that upon its operation it would have been at least 15 times likely than the U.S plant to have had a catastrophic meltdown based on the weather patterns they knew it would only take 24 hours for radioactive materials to reach Florida if it did melt down and since Cuba's not very big fidelito's plan was to dump all of their nuclear waste into the ocean um so he was he was not a great atomic energy commissioner his dad fired him uh he was sent to the Cuban Academy of Sciences and that's not

really much else to say about fidalito he's kind of boring which is basically the best case scenario for a kid on this list Fidel we don't know how many kids Fidel had we aren't even sure if he was married for Most of his time in power or how many wives he had but we do know that he had another boy Antonio who became an orthopedic surgeon Antonio worked as a physician at the Cuban basketball team and seems to be better at his job than his older brother was at building nuclear power plants I'm bringing him

up because in 2008 something hilarious happened to him uh Luis domeniguez Pro democracy activist baseball fan and Cuban American pretended to be a 27 Seven-year-old Colombian Sports journalist named Claudia to seduce Antonio so the internet's not allowed in Cuba but if you're a Castro family member you get a smartphone you get internet access you get all of that stuff you're not supposed to but you know they they have it anyway so Luis pretends to be this woman Claudia and Strikes up a romantic relationship with Castro's son via text messages in Google Chat and like so

he's catfish yeah he's He catfish is Castro's son um and fishing the king fish the big fish there's messages like guess where I am and I will make love to you without stopping as one message Antonio sent this fake woman while he was on a diplomatic visit to Russia I mean that's just kind of basic love making is that you don't stop in the middle of it make love to you and I won't just randomly stop I have a desire to kiss you I want to kiss you love you and make love to You so

that's sweet um but Luis was also able to get Antonio to share his phone number his address in Havana and reveal that he had no bodyguards and give him updates on secret trips he was taking to other countries in Central and South America that's the sort of thing that a secret admirer would ask you yeah exactly and my favorite thing about this is that like by doing this Louise is not just throwing shade on the on Fidel Castro but he's also like kind of Sticking it to the CIA who spent like tried to kill Castro

like 500 times he's always trying to figure out stuff and couldn't and then this guy is like I'll just pretend to be a girl or pretend I want to [ __ ] his son turns out that was the key all along yeah um so that's a fun story um so yeah Antonio is clearly kind of dumb but he's he doesn't seem to be a bad person um so again Castro's kids pretty much The best case scenario here right the worst case scenario for that we're gonna have to roll over to our old buddy Saddam Hussein

all right of all the dictator fathers I've read about I'm pretty sure he was the worst um Uday Hussein was born in 1964. okay and kusei in 1966 uh cousay not a whole lot to say about I mean he wasn't a great guy but uh it's Uday who who's the real king [ __ ] of garbage Mountain um so UDA was originally meant to be the Heir to saddam's power uh he was tall handsome and athletic but he was also so crazy that Saddam couldn't stand him and eventually disinherited him so in the 90s Uday

was made the head of the national soccer team football team whatever term you want to use uh the head of the team yeah yeah he was like the head coach okay that's like a dictator kid Trope we'll run into a couple other kids who like okay you get to run the soccer team Because your dad's I mean yeah that's awesome the the boss right uh and so as coach of this team he was known to show up at halftime and promise to cut off players legs and feed them to Hungry dogs if they didn't improve

um which is that's good motivation yeah yeah it's a solid strategy yeah um I'm gonna quote here from a wonderful Guardian article titled Uday career of rape torture and murder Uh quote as football oversealer Seer Uday kept a private torture scorecard with written instructions on how many times each player should be beaten on the soles of his feet after a particularly poor showing well you gotta stay organized I mean that's the that's the first thing can't forget any any beating worthy mistakes no no that's like the first I'm pretty sure what Joe Namath said that

too yes he was always hitting people in the foot yeah Um so in addition to being uh probably not a very good coach Uday was famous for raping basically anyone and everyone who caught his eye there were some occasions where he'd show up at weddings and just take the bride really um yeah that would happen like there's a lot of those stories uh so he's he's he's garbage he became obsessed with torture uh it said that he had a private torture chamber on the Tigris uh I found a quote during my Research from a friend

of the Hussein family who said the day Uday discovered the internet was a black day for Iraqis which hmm yeah what did he do with the internet well he found out about things like iron maidens not the band The the sarcophagus filled with spikes um we found one of those in one of his palaces the Americans did when when Iraq was you know conquered or whatever uh and when they found it it was dull like Jesus Christ like it wasn't he didn't just buy it to put it in the corner because he was like [

__ ] I mean I think it started sharp yeah you got it you got to keep that thing sharp man I think he was doing a lot of maidening with the Iron Maiden although maybe more painful if it's not Sharp yeah I mean I assume Uday knew what he was doing when it came to using an Iron Maiden on people right he was probably the world's leading expert on that yeah uh actually so you Know yeah I've only used one like once or twice yeah um there is one Mark uh in uday's favor which is

that he was the leader of the Saddam fedain which was a violent paramilitary Force dedicated to his dad uh and the mark in his favor is that he equipped his private army with Darth Vader helmets yes uh I've got a picture of the [ __ ] rules and that's that's cool that's that's that's pretty fly now did he know they were Darth Vader Helmets oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah no he he knew what he was doing it was a a conscious decision to Echo Darth Vader and the helmets of his private Army which is

if you're gonna have a private Army not a bad call so he was just like I'm a bad guy like from age one I was just like um I'm gonna be evil he didn't have acid yeah no he's not like one of those awful people who tries to pretend to be good he's like fully committed You know it would be cool an army of Darth Vader's if they were mine yeah um so Saddam does not seem to have reigned in his oldest son for decades uh or disciplined him much at all but over time uday's

Behavior grew too abhorrent for even history's worst dad gotta let that horse run you know well uh so Uday was a drunk had a little bit of a drinking problem uh and in 1988 he got drunk at a party and bludgeoned his father's bodyguard to death in front Of a bunch of random Partiers uh which is kind of a party Foul that's where I draw the line personally yeah beating your dad's bodyguard to death yeah that's an important line yeah um this was not unheard of behavior for Uday he was famous for getting shit-faced and

doing things like firing his machine gun above the heads of musicians and dancers at parties sometimes he did not shoot above their heads Um Jesus he would just get drunk and shoot people at parties that was his thing he was like Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas if he was never kidding every single time he he was just going to murder them yeah yeah he's he's there's no kidding with Uday Hussein yeah um sad sense of humor notoriously bad sense of humor well and all of this came to a head during a drunken brawl with his

uncle watbon see watbon and luai which who was a saddam's Brother-in-law got into an argument over quote the most sought after prostitute at a party they went to Uday to ask him to basically King Solomon the whole matter and like determine who gets the prostitute yeah this was not a good idea Uday had shown up at the party after 3 A.M drunk as [ __ ] with a crazy pump action rifle that looked like it came from the movie Rambo is the only description I've I've I have no idea what kind of gun it was

right uh it Sounds ridiculous so he was he was already hammered probably blacked out and when they asked him this for some reason he became convinced that wattbon had been making fun of his speech impediment right so Uday just starts shooting uh he fires randomly into the crowd first killing three people and wounding God knows how many then he turned the gun on his uncle and shot him in both legs and then also accidentally gunned down six female Dancers so like nine people have died total in this Rampage and saddam's brother has had his kneecaps

blown off so this pissed off Saddam Hussein uh and he decided he was actually going to discipline his son so the story it's a real hard ass that guy you know you got to draw the line somewhere yeah so the story of how I'm quoting from Will Barton warper's uh the prisoner in his Palace quote as punishment he torched uday's prize collection of rolls Royces Bentley's BMWs Porsches and Ferraris which had been stored under guard in a garage in the Republican Palace laughing wildly the former dictator recalled how he gleefully watched The Inferno smoking one

of his famous Cohibas as the Flames engulfed his son's treasured possessions saddam's almost manacle laughter was contagious Rogerson who's the guy the American he's telling the story to was unable to resist joining in succumbing to belly Laughs of his own the mental image of the dictator dousing hundreds of his son's luxury cars with gasoline and setting them Ablaze reminded him of a Jerry Springer episode on steroids oh so just everybody in this story including the guy he's telling the story to is just [ __ ] crazy just completely out of their mind I mean that's

pretty funny you murdered nine people at a party I'm gonna light a hundred cars on fire yeah that'll show Him and Uday was on the straight narrow from that point forward right the end no he uh he actually got shot in an assassination attempt and paralyzed from like the waist down uh so he did calm down after that but I don't think it was because of the cars right so uh one of the weird things here is that like while Saddam doesn't seem to have done much at all to his sons one way or the

other uh he was actually kind of a sweet dad to his daughters especially his eldest Daughter raghad uh she told a story to an interviewer who at like saw this cheap piece of jewelry on her when she was like in Exile in Jordan and was like that doesn't look like the kind of thing you'd have and she told him a sweet story about when you know before Saddam was dictator they'd been walking in a market and she'd fallen down and scraped her knee and broken down in tears power crazed General well he was power craze

vice president yeah Scrappy young power Crazed vice president yeah yeah exactly so he like he he bought her some fancy like costume jewelry when she scraped her knee and she kept it her whole life so Stone was like a sweet and this is like another dictator Trope is their sons always are often turn out to be like Mass raping murderers and their daughters are like he was a sweet Dad yeah he bought me jewelry this is why it's so good that uh our main enemy North Korea has just a line of Succession with just nothing

but dictators and Sons of dictators yeah all the way down yeah yeah and and most of them seem to be cut from the old Uday cloth yeah um so uh again that's a trend dictators being really close to their first daughter and that kind of brings us to Stalin because Stalin adored his young daughter Svetlana uh and we're gonna get into Joseph Stalin as a doting father uh after this break but first we're going To break for something Stalin would have hated ads capitalism songs of of products so here we go by not skipping these

ads you're fighting Stalin in a sense yes uh Stick it to Stalin be a good American and several of the dictators on this list by uh listening to these ads [Music] and we are back uh last we talked about Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussein and their parenting Tactics and right now we are talking about Svetlana Stalin the daughter to Joseph Stalin she was born in 1926 after Stalin was already in power and he was kind of a doting father at first uh Svetlana thinks it's because he reminded her of his mother um svetlana's mother nedesda

was a committed Bolshevik she was not big on child rearing she never hugged her daughter she never said a kind word to her daughter and she constantly gave Stalin [ __ ] for coddling their daughter so in this relationship Stalin was the cool parent which someone was the laid-back dude he's the chill dad right um wow yeah Stalin's wife did not [ __ ] around huh no she did not uh yeah she wound up killing herself because he she wasn't angry at how he wasn't communist enough for her basically really it seems like why we

don't I mean we're not you went a [ __ ] argument ladies but uh anyway so Stalin and his daughter Had a cute little relationship he would have her issue orders to him in writing and then he would respond I obey uh he would sign notes as like the poor peasant Joseph Stalin the secretary to you know my daughter um so that was cute that was adorable yeah they had a cute little thing uh it didn't last you know Stalin was always busy and a lot of what he was busy doing was disappearing people right

so regularly her classmates would just not Show up at school because their parents had been exiled or executed her classmates killed for like not being nice to his daughter I suspect some of that might have happened too um there's just a lot of her schoolmates weren't there one day right and that kept on happening uh from time to time other classmates would give her notes to pass on to her father begging uh him to free their parents um Stalin hated this and told his Daughter to not act as a post office box right so that's

a fun thing to put on your daughter's shoulder right um her relatives started to disappear too after Stalin's wife committed suicide Stalin got rid of basically the mom's whole side of the family so all of svetlana's aunts and uncles uh she didn't understand why this was happening and thought that it was just like a terrible mistake until she went to Stalin about it and he said no they knew Too much they babbled and it played into the hands of our enemies so he knows how to talk to his daughter yeah he's a good father he's

a good dad he's a good dad that's how you explain disappearance yeah someone's relatives yeah um so in 1943 at the height of World War II Svetlana fell in love with a young boy named Kepler they had a brief romance and then Stalin found out he became convinced Kepler was a British spy he also wasn't wild about the fact that Kepler was Jewish uh Svetlana said you know but I love him Dad I'm in a quote from svetlana's autobiography here love screamed my father with a hatred of the very word I can scarcely convey and

for the first time in his life he slapped me across the face twice take a look at yourself who'd want you you fool he's got women all around him what that's Stalin he's he there's a immediate drop off if she like gets to be a teenager and how Sweet stall it is yeah and just the second she shows any interest in another man yeah that's she so she's also a first daughter yeah yeah so that's just interesting we were just talking on uh the other podcasts that I host the daily Zeitgeist today about uh our

president and his strange relationship to his first daughter Ivanka just how it doesn't seem like totally normal like they seem to have a very special bond uh but yeah that's the Best way to put it yeah uh so he has sort of the same sort of relationship to his daughter Stalin does that um like Scarface has to his sister it's like yeah man he's really protective of her yeah it's sweet up until another human being enters the picture right and then it's like oh no this is bad that's interesting that dictators can like not because

they they're clearly their love for their daughter is just a function of their narcissism right yeah But it's weird that it doesn't translate to their sons probably because they see their sons as just like a demand finished shittier version of them yeah it's me but you know you never had to struggle you didn't grow up robbing banks for a living right you know right right yeah whereas his daughter is just this you know perfect little thing that loved him and then she becomes a person and he's very angry about right yeah so you know Stalin

dies spoiler alert uh And after his death Svetlana flees the Soviet Union she becomes an American citizen in 67 but then comes back to the USSR in 84 but then she goes back to the U.S and then France and then finally England in 1992 uh just on her my dad was Stalin tour well yeah she wrote two very popular books I think one of them was a bestseller um and they were apparently good books like well reviewed so you you might call her the best case scenario for like the Kid of a monster from your

perspective yeah she wound up being a relatively successful person and you know spoke out against her dad the rest of her life like whatever happened to the guy uh kaplar that she fell in love with he went off to a gulag oh specifically as ordered by Stalin or just because he was one of millions and millions of people who got swept up I mean he was one of millions and millions of people who got swept up but Stalin You know like I don't think it was unrelated to the fact that he was making eyes at

Stalin's daughter and gulags were nice places right yeah yeah pretty chill let's not examine that any further right they seem nice it's a nice name it sounds like a good soup yeah yeah Gulag oh yeah I love the gulag that's eggplant right yeah yeah uh my favorite fact about gulags is the Russian word for uh Russia Russian still has a word for this it's called it basically means man cow And it's a word that was created in the gulags for when you fatten somebody up who you're in the gulags with in order to uh and

then you plan an escape with them so that you can eat them as you're crossing the tundra oh that's nice that's yeah Russian hats has a single word for that is that why all those no fat heavy lunches don't worry about it yeah yeah okay um all right uh back to uh uh Castro's oh yeah so Um this kind of this kind of brings to mind Castro's daughter Alina who had a very similar story to Svetlana um so she never really lived with her dad uh her mom was kind of one of Castro's side flings

uh but she grew up knewing knowing she was Castro's daughter everyone else knew she was Castro's daughter and likes fetlana uh people would beg her to have her dad free their families from you know uh horrible you know slave camps and stuff Yeah um Castro wasn't as much of a dick about it as Stalin I don't think he did anything when she asked him but he wasn't like makes it kind of hard to be like guys I'm not just defined by my father when they're like but he's killing my family my father right um so

they didn't have a super close relationship but Fidel did show up at her first wedding and as he left he told Her don't let me know when you get your divorce and her response was don't worry I don't have your phone number nice um like Svetlana she fled her home country uh she wound up in the United States she wrote a book about her shitty dad and she started a radio show in Miami called simply Alina where she would talk [ __ ] about Castro every day not Castro was my dad it was just simply

Alina now I think Castro was my dad was similar to her books title right yeah Yeah yeah so that's interesting you've got like two older Daughters of of dictators who follow basically the same path right um rejecting their father who clearly was into them for a weird reason there's still hope for you Ivanka yeah you can write a book you could have a simply Ivanka yeah you could just be interesting I'm really interested to see like what as everybody who is associated with well well we don't need to talk about politics let's keep going With

these crazy [ __ ] yeah let's talk about Stalin's Sons oh um so first props to Stalin uh he spoiled his kids a lot less than most dictators right this is particularly true of his son's Vasily and Yakov uh so Stalin seems to have been kind of a True Believer in some ways uh to the stuff he was he was he was you know thrown out there uh he didn't want his kids to get special treatment just because their dad was Stalin Um when basily was 17 he joined a flight school uh his grades were

terrible his dad's employees helped him get into the school uh without you know Stalin's knowledge because they thought it might Curry favor yeah they were probably disappeared for that yeah because Stalin did not like that he described his son as spoiled and average when you're helping somebody get into flight school and they're not good enough to get into flight school are you really doing them A favor or are you just being sending them off to a fiery death yeah or maybe other people so Vasily uh tried to use his famous name to get privileges at

flight school Stalin found out and ordered that his kid not get any special treatment um I think he still did get some special treatment but I think Stalin was pissed about it Vasily was a rampaging drunk uh in spite of that he did manage to graduate flight school he had a habit of Drunkenly commandeering planes and then flying them while continuing to drink you would expect that story to end worse than it did but apparently he never like accidentally 9 11 anything yeah I like that 911's past tense has 9-11 first of all but also

yeah so he was like Denzel Washington's character in Flight yeah I needed a couple Pops to like get him to fly in the world's greatest pilot and then he's like flying planes upside down is he a commercial Pilot or what no military military so he is the commander he is a colonel in charge of an Air Force regiment during World War II for a little while right uh Stalin actually fired him very quickly and said this Colonel Stalin is being removed from his post as regimental Commander for drunkenness and debauchery and because he is ruining

and perverting the regiment so so I mean when he's drunkenly commandeering these planes that's only a thing that is possible if You're a Stalin's kid because everyone else they just [ __ ] shoot you between the eyes yeah yeah Stalin did predict his kids from being shot in the eyes yeah hey if there's one thing you could say about that guy yes millions of lives lost but actually the silly got took drunk only commandeer that plan I should say he stopped two-thirds of his kids from being shot oh boy so uh Vasily lived to the

ripe old age of 41 when he died of rampant alcoholism Uh he lasted longer than his brother Yakov um as far as I can tell Yakov was actually a pretty solid dude I haven't read about any specific crimes he committed he did try to kill himself after a failed Romance when he failed Stalin's only comment was he can't even Shoot Straight is the name Yakov in Russian spelled jack off I mean I wrote it as y-a-k like it's written in Cyrillic well it's neither because right can you spell it either Way okay um they use

different letters proceed yeah um Yakov wound up on the Eastern Front during the Nazi invasion he was captured by the Nazis they offered to Ransom him back to Stalin in exchange for the captured German field Marshal paulus but Stalin said it's not worth it to trade a general for a lieutenant uh Stalin also had yaakov's family locked up after he was captured because he'd issued a decree saying that the families of Captured soldiers had to be punished uh and he did not exempt his son's own family from that so his son's own family was imprisoned

but that's like his wife or like some just his wife and kids some side piece no it's his wife I think okay let's get a wife and kids so yakov's family was also his family yeah yeah Saddam saddam's grandkids and daughter-in-law he throws in prison because their dad gets captured by the Nazis oh okay yeah Wife and Kids yeah And Yakov gets killed at the Saxon housing concentration camp when he refuses an order from a guard to go you know do something he just like wasn't willing to take it anymore uh the fact that he

died this way is actually the only thing he ever did that Stalin approved of uh so that's Stalin the dad in a nutshell wow um so was he shot by a German officer yeah and he shot by a German while an SS guard right basically the guy is like It's time to go inside and yeah I was like no [ __ ] it I'm just ready to die I want to keep playing yeah okay and yeah so that's how you get Stalin's uh approval um if you were his son get shot by a Nazi way

to go Yakov Stalin yeah and I feel like now is the right time to move on to another communist dictator Nikolai chachescu he was the dictator of Romania from 1965 to 1989 as an authoritarian ruler he ordered troops to fire on Protesters operated a vast and repressive secret police and generally ran his country into the ground he's the whole standard Bingo for a European dictator right 60s 70s 80s uh and he's kind of middle of the pack as far as dictator dads go so his wife was named Alina and they had two sons and one

daughter his first son Valentin uh was initially meant to be The Heir Apparent but Valentine didn't want to follow in his dad's footsteps he declined the Privilege of being the heir and instead became a nuclear physicist which he still does today such a disappointment so yeah what a bummer yeah kid just becomes a nuclear physicist not a power hungry dictator um Valentine only abused his position a little bit uh he acquired a giant art collection and he had a side job helping to run the nation's best soccer team um but he was apparently pretty nice

nobody had any complaints with him on The soccer team uh yeah you know the silly Stalin also had a soccer team or a hockey team or whatever um all these dictator kids get a sports team if they want him apparently it's a lot of fun because it's what our richest people do right yeah the second they become like billionaires they buy a sports teams yeah Zoya chuchetsku was the middle daughter uh apparently Nikolai and Alina did something right because she also got a PhD hers was in Mathematics yeah check out the Big Brand on the

chichevskus well this is actually a problem because nikolai's wife Alina the dictatorist you could say uh was kind of a giant piece of [ __ ] too and her hobby was pretending to be a chemist uh no she loved to get honors from foreign universities for her pioneering work in chemistry she had done no work in chemistry but that was just thing it got her off to pretend she was a chemist and she hated that her daughter was an Actual scientist with actual accomplishment of course she would so when her daughter gets a PhD in

mathematics Alina kicks Zoya out of the presidential Palace and makes her live in an apartment um as Revenge Zoya starts a new mathematics department at The Institute she worked at and winds up in charge of it she also starts smoking because her mom hates cigarettes um so this is like like a mix of normal Teenage rebellion and the kind of thing you can only do as a dictator's kid like I'm gonna smoke cigarettes and start a new Mathematics Institute screw you were smart yeah very smart dictators kid yeah yeah she's brilliant uh she starts drinking

heavily and having lots of sex with random people like you do uh Alina didn't care about the sex so much but she did order the secret police to watch her daughter and report on the boy she dated which I assume did not always end Well for the boys yes seriously Zoya became a bit of a dissident she made some friends with normal Romanians who were suffering under her parents Rule and so she stopped you using her family name and spoke at about terrible living conditions but that really seems to have been more of a way

to get back at her mom than out of a real commitment to Justice when her parents were forced from Power Alina was arrested too the troops that searched her house found it Filled with jewels and art and cash as they took her away she asked the police if they had any room in the truck for her poodles since many Romanians were starving at this point this did not play well um but you know Zoya and Valentine were both functional people who like got legitimate jobs and you know high level degrees their success stories the same

cannot be said of Nikolai and Alina's youngest child nikku uh since Valentine Had chosen a life of the Mind niku was seen as the chichesku's best bet for establishing a communist Dynasty I'm going to quote children of monsters again here from his mid-teens nikku was an out of control drunk and a rapist he raped at will and his will was ferocious and unopposable he had complete license he was the kind who could run red lights and kill people in the process with total impunity so that's Old yeah when the United Nations named 1985 International youth

year nikku was picked to be the spokesperson of that whole thing the United Nations picked him yeah he's the spokesperson of the international youth yeah yeah yeah I mean you got a medal what's more youthful than running red lights and indiscriminate rape he's a fun guy um you know back in Romania now with a metal NICU drank raped and regularly got into car accidents his best friend was Uday Hussein the pair would regularly meet up in Monaco like weird ooh sound in their name and yeah they just seem like a perfect match I bet they

had fun in Monaco and Switzerland oh they seemed like it seemed like a good crew to party with yeah it must be weird to get drunk with Uday when he can't machine gun people right just I I wonder yeah yeah what does he do then yeah it just like goes around And pushes people under traffic jumps people off of balconies um at one point NICU got married uh his mom had to force this on him because you know he was happier raping people indiscriminately right uh but at his mom's urging he eventually married a girl

named Pollyanna after the wedding he told her now go live with my mother she should [ __ ] you because she chose you wow so that's some solid that was actually in my wedding vows as Well that's a beautiful beautiful sentiment yeah yeah the couple divorced not long after that oh yeah it's a heartbreak whenever that happens so uh During the Revolution that kicked their appearance out of power NICU ordered troops to Massacre civilians in one Transylvania town uh his brother and sister didn't do much at all they received eight-month sentences niku was given 20

years in prison he was released after only three because his heavy Drinking had killed his liver he died at age 45 which means he lived you know a good four years longer than basily Stalin um I could probably fill two or three full podcasts with anecdotes of other dictator kids uh I assume we'll do a follow-up at some point you know there's there's the story of uh Gaddafi's son mutasan who hired Beyonce and Usher to play at private parties he would throw and spend two million dollars a month of The government's money on his own

it's fun but uh we're gonna tossing also sounds like some sort of over-the-counter cough medicine yeah um we're gonna actually move on to another dictator's kid in a little bit Nikolai lukashenko the small child with a golden gun uh but first we've got some advertisements to come back to which advertisements advertisements that would really piss off Nikolai chachesku because he was you know communist so Let's keep angering these dead dictators [Music] hey we are back and I'm going to talk about Benito Mussolini uh the lean man and he actually seems to have been a decent

parent in that his kids all grew up idolizing him even after his death uh but he was a shitty parent and that his kids all became horrible fascists uh and his family are still fascists today um he sent his son Vittorio to Hollywood in 1937 and Vittorio formed a company With Hal roach creator of The Little Rascals uh their collaboration was short-lived adorable you can find a video online of Mussolini's son meeting all of The Little Rascals for real yeah does he have like a stiff sort of fascist demeanor about it you know what I

think he uh would have didn't kill any of them no but he would have been a great member of the cast he's got um he's got Rascals Charisma yeah yeah I I really I don't see why they didn't bring Him back for the reboot in the 90s of The Little Rascals that would have been what that was missing uh but yeah if you want to look that up online you can see Mussolini's son and the Little Rascals being adorable together um Mussolini's daughter Etta loved Hitler and the Nazis in 1933 she joined Hitler and Goebbels

and Goebbels family at Lake vonce which is where the Holocaust was planned uh not during that Meeting but in that same location a couple years later Holocaust jokes aren't that funny but no the idea of Hitler planning it with a like 10 year old is really weird I think she was a late teens like yeah at this point not funny at all yeah no uh she called Hitler her uncle though and was quote always struck by his extraordinary kindness and affection toward me as well as his patience hunky Hitler Anki Hitler um yeah in 1940

she said she was ashamed And disgusted that Italy hadn't yet entered World War II on the side of the Nazis uh she said that she didn't force her dad to enter World War II but she also said quote given my germanophile sympathies I was without being aware of it the link between the fewer and my father I found it normal that two dictators should be allies and this is all the more so since as soon as he took power in 1933 I had begun to consider Hitler a irritable hero no yeah in the 30s I'm

just trying to like get a sense of when when Mussolini and Hitler were like first on the scene is there a modern day corollary for like how the world viewed them would Putin be like the closest thing we have or Putin Putin might be the closest thing we have towards how Mussolini was viewed at the time a lot of people thought he was a monster but he was very popular like fat you one of the things that's hard when you think About the 30s is that fascism was a legitimate political ideology at that point right

people thought it was dope yeah people thought like oh no this might be a reasonable way to run a country so Mussolini was like he was the senior partner between him and Hitler for a while right like in the 30s he was like the big man and Hitler was trying to impress him and then okay obviously Mussolini went to [ __ ] and this whole country went to [ __ ] right Um whereas Hitler thrived yeah no as far as I know now I haven't read past 36 but I think it went pretty good that

guy's got something on the ball I feel like we got a lot no uh probably shouldn't make those jokes about Hitler but um yeah uh Etta had a husband named ciano who wound up turning against Mussolini and being part of a plot to sort of overthrow him and pull Italy out of the war Mussolini had him executed he was forced to sit in a chair with other Co-conspirators tied to the chair and then shot in the head uh his Mussolini's grandchild Fabrizio Oceano wrote a book in the 1990s titled when grandpa had dad shot wow

um it's taking all I have to not say any of these names in like a like insulting no it's like a character there we go there we go you feel better yeah get a little bit of that pressure out yeah um Mussolini's family is still very Active in the Italian far right which you'd think after their dad and his mistress being like murdered in public and the country getting bombed like it would have been like oh maybe that was a mistake but um his granddaughter Alessandra is a member of the Italian Senate since I think

2011. and also a member of the European Parliament in 2006 when Libya asked for reparations for Italy's colonization and brutal war against it Alessandra said quote if it Hadn't been for my grandfather they would still be writing camels and wearing turbans on their heads they should be paying us compensation so being complete [ __ ] does not always skip a generation uh the Mussolini family just kinda seems to be garbage um or maybe it did skip a generation and he had that generation shot in the head oh and this is the shitty generation again yeah

yeah um so maybe the next generation will Shoot the prior generation I mean the the jury's pretty much in on fascism isn't it you would think so but then everything that's happened in the last two years yeah yeah all right um so let's talk about Gaddafi momar Ka freaking dafi Ka so you're a human yeah oh yeah I'm a Q Man I'm a Q Man um he has a weird record as a parent um like most dictators he gave one of his sons a sport team uh Sadi Gaddafi was the head of Libya's National Football

Federation but he was also the captain of his home team and the national team so he played two and he was not good uh but he benefited and his team benefited from the fact that referees weren't allowed to rule against him and also brought casters weren't allowed to mention the names of any other players and games he played in so they would call out Saudi by name but the other players they just did nature sure go ahead they just give Jersey Jersey numbers for the other players so if you were playing in a game and

he was anywhere on the field no one else's name could be mentioned so they'd be like and the guy who sorry passed to three passes ago passes to they call their numbers out okay everyone but him on the field was just a number right um yeah Jesus he did not have a lot of a sense of humor about his playing uh there was a game in Tripoli uh where Tripoli was playing against their Rivals Benghazi uh and the Benghazi team dressed a donkey up in saudi's Jersey uh Saudi I mean you want to guess how

cool his reaction was uh pretty chill he had the Benghazi stadium demolished and banned their team from playing that's that's a lot yeah yeah he was kind of a dick um qaddafi's son mutasa them was allowed to hire famous international pop stars for his parties he hired Beyonce and Usher and Mariah Carey All of whom were Apparently fine with taking a dictator's money to play at his birthday parties wait when did the uh because I for some reason my brain was still in black and white from the Mussolini stories when did he have that uh

stadium demolished was that like Jesus modern days I think that was in the early 2000s Jesus Christ I'm not 100 on that um but yeah it was pretty recent like it wasn't Back in Black and White days for sure Um yeah mutasam you know had Beyonce play for him and stuff uh he once encounted that his lifestyle cost the Libyan government 2 million a month uh just for him he counted that yeah yeah that was something he admitted freely proud friend yeah so you can imagine how expensive the whole family was um mutasam attempted a

coup probably once in the 1990s we don't know for sure but he tried to overthrow his dad we think his dad exiled him for a little While and then welcomed him back as the National Security advisor okay uh so a little yeah you gotta you gotta forgive your kids gotta let them get that stuff out of there yeah you know that the military overthrowing exactly your kids are gonna they're gonna crash a car or something you know they're gonna gonna smoke a little weed you can't be too hard on them you know you kick them

out to Europe for a while and then you make them your National Security advisor no I See they'll never get there because I already know my kids are plotting my overthrow and I just have it in the back of my mind at all times yeah that's smart you gotta you gotta it's like that old parenting saying you always you know for every kid you need a dozen secret police yeah yeah yeah most of our conversations begin with do you think you're stronger than me yeah yeah that's that's that's good that's setting yourself up for Success

right uh Gaddafi's son Hannibal was a sailor and so wound up in control of Libya's Hannibal Gaddafi Gaddafi well Hannibal's a big name in that part of the world yeah he's still a hero [ __ ] baller yeah bad guy name anytime your name's Hannibal that's frightening um uh one of the things that's a general rule with dictator kids is that if you have like an interest like sailing you'll wind up in charge of that for the whole country He was like oh you like being on ships well you're in charge of all the ports

in our Port Nation right you own the ocean now uh the upside of it is Hannibal was well educated and took his education seriously at one point he was tutored by a European Professor from Copenhagen uh the book children of dictators quotes uh writer John Byrne as saying he was this tutor who visited him was met by chauffeured cars put up in a five-star hotel and someone for private Sessions to Hannibal's home where gazelles and Antelope strolled around a garden um pretty sweet gig if you're a tutor uh I I can see like I think

that's more forgivable than like Beyonce because she doesn't need the money but a college professor you're gonna take what you can get yeah I guess like be creative with who you make Rich yeah yeah at least yeah a college professor I feel better about than Beyonce getting more money to Play for a dictator or just one of the other Destiny's Child yeah yeah that would have been creative yeah we've got a whole podcast on children of Destiny coming yes after this one Destiny's children I'm sorry I feel stupid uh Hannibal regularly found himself in conflict

with the police not uh Libyan police obviously because they would never get him in trouble for anything but with European police uh in 2001 he Assaulted officers at the Hilton in Rome at 3 A.M I'm in a quote from Children of dictators here uh quote the officers had been guarding Hannibal's own room he struck them with bottles and emptied a fire extinguisher on them for good measure he then pleaded diplomatic immunity as he would habitually do in 2004 Hannibal LED French police on a high-speed chase through the center of Paris he was drunk in his

black Porsche doing 90 miles an hour at on the Champs-elysees he ran red lights at one point he went the wrong way when the police finally stalked him six of his bodyguards arrived in other cars and attacked the police attacked them like physically yes um so this is like that uh that affluenza case but just on a global scale yeah it's affluenza when you actually are immune to prosecution because you have diplomatic credentials so you really can Just plea diplomatic immunity they're like guilty yeah well please diplomatic immunity like diplomatic immunity we control one of

the biggest ports in the world so what are you gonna do like right you you know our trade is a not insignificant part of your GDP it's amazing that nobody just kills one of these guys just like it's just like well come on you guys aren't gonna care right I mean some of them did get killed Right yeah but just like matassum wound up getting killed right with alongside his dad yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right um so uh Hannibal you know was a nightmare person he beat his wife and his servants but also his

wife poured boiling water on her servants so nobody's the good no nobody's good in this story yeah and maybe the servants are okay yeah the servants are probably decent people who are just trying not to get boiled right uh after Gaddafi was Deposed information came out that Hannibal had ordered the building of a private Cruise liner called the phenicia it would have been big enough for 3 500 passengers Hannibal had specified that he wanted it to include a 120 ton shark tank that could hold two sand tiger sharks two white sharks and two black Tiff

tip reef sharks uh white sharks are great white sharks just white just white just white just white not the great ones he wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna Splurge This is the company's country's money right you know you don't want to go crazy right um Qaddafi did have one good kid well his name was seif al-islam uh which literally means sword of Islam uh seif refused to post in government and would regularly give interviews use to the national press where he was critical of the Libyan government and his father uh uh he like was kind of

very popular in the world media because he was calling Out the Libyan regime he would call for Democratic elections but when the Civil War happened he returned home to fight on behalf of his father uh real Godfather 2 situation yeah I guess Godfather won yeah Godfather won like he was a good enough guy that he recognized [ __ ] was [ __ ] up and he was willing to call it out but like when the chips were down he defended his monster dad right um and in fact he was like the last Gaddafi standing in

Libya uh as as Children of dictators puts it after everyone else was you know murdered or had fled the country to avoid getting murdered murdered in the street publicly yeah yeah and he was left over did he ever get murdered uh as far as I know I think he's still alive uh I think he might be in custody right now uh two days after his dad was killed he he said that he was willing to fight to the end but I think he's in custody right now it's it makes you wonder knowing what we Know

about all these other children of dictators it makes you wonder if this guy was the best human like ever because he managed to just be an alright person yeah it's rare right like you've got some of the Castro's uh uh who were not terrible people right yeah that's true as far as we know but like Castro didn't give them I don't know you know he gave them like it's it's I feel like he was kind of absentee or like a Disinterested dad maybe like yeah yeah and that's they were just [ __ ] up by

or like poorly parented into not being terrible I guess yeah like the best thing you can hope for is enough neglect and also that your dad doesn't give you too much responsibility yeah um and if that happens then you won't like wind up in the worst case scenario you could wind up in um Sorry yeah yeah uh no he was a cyph was captured uh trying to flee Libya he was in jail for five or six years he was released in June of 2017. uh and a militia that had arrested him chose not to transfer

him to the international criminal court and it looks like he's going to yeah he says he's running for president the un-backed Libyan government says oh he's running for president he says he's going to but the U.N backed government in Libya right now says that's not going to happen the ICC has a warrant out for his arrest uh so I guess we'll see what happens if he needs somebody to run his campaign I mean I think we just gave them the strategy just be like did you see how shitty my siblings were like come on I

feel like Bannon can make it I mean that makes you wonder though if like the whole speaking out against his father thing was all it was an act from the Beginning like it was like he is the great like the long con yeah what do they call like uh the [ __ ] the second coming of Satan is Satan two electric Satan to Electric Boogaloo yes uh I forgot yeah I feel like a Great Deceiver or whatever I feel like that's what's happening here yeah it's just like if I make myself seem like a good

guy to the international press then they won't have a big issue when I wind up Taking over for my dad and his dad was like well he's the only kid I have who's not a complete [ __ ] up right uh so he'll definitely take over and it's fine that he's gonna critique me a little bit right Antichrist that's what yeah yeah yeah so I'm about to talk about my boy Nikolai lukashenko so uh Nikolai is the son of Alexander lukashenko who is known as the last dictator in Europe uh he's the president of Belarus

uh I should probably add that people called him the Last dictator in Europe before Putin was as clearly a dictator right now um but yeah we'll stray away from politics here it's coming back baby yeah so um Nikolai lukashenko started being groomed to rule Belarus uh when he was six years old uh which is I guess the age when you start that training I assume some of this involved a thorough education and military training and all that stuff but a lot of the time his dad just seems to use him as a prop to Embarrass

world leaders by the age of seven he'd posed Nikolai with the Pope Hugo Chavez and the president of Russia uh Dimitri Medvedev the president of Russia gave him an actual golden handgun he apparently still wears it because when he met Chavez again in 2012 he reached his hands up to high five him and his suit coat slid back to reveal a giant stupid golden handgun and I gotta drop you some pictures here so these are all going to be up on the website all The pictures at behindthebastards.com here's Nikolai lukashenko receiving his giant golden handgun

and there it is in his little suit just always clearly packing heat he's still a child he's he's 13 now wow and he still has a golden handgun that he carries everywhere there's the picture of him with Chavez and this is a working handgun yeah it's a functional gold-plated handgun Jesus Chris he's like my man yeah what else do You give a kid what do you give the kid who has everything a golden gun I like that he's slapping Hugo Chavez a five instead of like shaking his hand or cowering in fear he's a hip

you know dictator in training right uh and apparently gets to carry a gun everywhere yeah which golden gun I mean what 12 year old wouldn't do that if they had the chance nothing says mad with power like golden handguns yeah he's joffreying pretty hard in all those Pictures um yeah you don't find a whole lot about nikolai's personality because you know Belarus is a pretty closed country um but I'm sure he's gonna turn out just great uh he's been chosen to represent Belarus at the United Nations General Assembly he's taken pictures of the Obamas and

basically every other world leader who winds up near him as of right now he's age 13 uh and yeah we don't Know much about him but I'm optimistic that he will not be a drunken Mass rapist yeah yeah so am I if I've learned anything today it's that I want that guy to marry my daughter if I uh if I ever have one um so yeah he seems like he's going to be well balanced yeah he seems like that seems like that's gonna go so what why does his dad bring him everywhere because he thinks

it's like funny to Make heads of state pose with him or it's it's kind of impossible to tell if I feel like some of it's that because Belarus has been condemned by a bunch of different countries including us through you know nightmares human rights violations jailing political opponents so I think it kind of tickles him to make someone like Barack Obama pose with him and his little kid who's the dictator in waiting but I think some of it's training like he wants to establish Like a Kim style Dynasty got it uh in Belarus and so

he's sort of positioning his kid and so there's there's like two messages in making a six-year-old your era parent one of them is is you know obviously getting people ready for this guy to be in charge but the other is like well he's six so I'm gonna be around for a long time right like you're not going to be free of Alexandria lucachenko anytime soon right and my kids packing a golden gun if anybody has A problem with it yeah of course um so yeah I want to in this podcast by talking about Hitler's son

um now I didn't know Hitler had a son he almost certainly did not oh uh but there is one man who spent most of his life believing he was Hitler's son even though he never met the man so his story is worth telling uh this guy Jean-Marie laurae was born right at the end of world war one he grew up without a dad just knowing that his father was a Random German Soldier because the Germans had occupied his village for most of you know that war he lived a pretty normal life during World War II

he fought against the Nazis as a member of the French Resistance um but then in 1950 when his mom was on her deathbed she told him that when she was 16 she'd had an affair with Hitler Jean-Marie had been conceived during a quote Tipsy night with the future fewer in June of 1917. this is a quote from Jean-Marie quoting his mother saying I was cutting hay with the other women when we saw a German soldier on the other side of the street he had a sketch pad and seemed to be drawing so it checks out

so far all the women found this Soldier interesting and wanted to know what he was drawing they picked me to try to approach him they wound up starting a relationship and Jean-Marie was born the next year um is cutting hay a euphemism for Something or they're just legitimately cutting hay they was I mean this is some like peasant [ __ ] right going on there adorably peasant yeah yeah so yeah according to jamari's Mom uh she and Hitler would often go on walks while she was pregnant uh the walks usually ended badly quote in fact

your father inspired by Nature launched into speeches which I did not really understand he did not speak French but ranted in German talking to an imaginary audience so Sounds like Hitler yeah I mean sounds like the one thing you would know about Hitler if you so when was this this was during World War II during World War One during World War yeah World War one is when this kid's conceived because he fights the Nazis as a young man got it um because he's just like a French kid um so most reputable historians say Philip probably

wasn't Hitler's kid a blood test didn't rule it out though because they have the same blood group Um and his mom had a Hitler painting and there's another painting of Hitler's that looks like it's a painting of her that's an original Hitler an original Hitler yes maybe there's yeah it's not impossible and uh so did we have this guy's bloodline snuffed out or where would we do what's going on we're getting to that okay um so you know genre believing he was Hitler or you know from the age 30 believed he was Hitler's kid yeah

and he Claimed that at first he was horribly depressed and he would just work all day every day in order to not be overwhelmed with sadness uh he says for 20 years he couldn't even go to the movies because any time spent not productively it would just like grip him and and and consume him uh he didn't tell anyone for almost 30 years until in 1979 he walked into a lawyer's office and said quote I am the son of Hitler tell me what I should do laughs Which great day to be that lawyer why did

he think that was a legal matter well he never makes much of a point of it in the interviews of him I read but there's always talk about like well he might be entitled to the royalties for Mein Kampf right yeah that's fair yeah um he did wind up writing a book about his experience as maybe Hitler's kid uh and as the years went on in the scientific battle to prove his claims was waged uh John Murray sort of leaned Into being Hitler he changed his look to match the fewer and wow he definitely looks

hitler-y uh I mean all you need is a mustache so this is him posing next to a picture of him that'll do it keeps in his house that will do it yeah he's got the stash and that's all you need yeah he he grew the mustache and he kept Hitler pictures around on his walls so that when journalists came over they could catch a picture of him looking just like Hitler and he does it's also Important that you not be smiling in your picture no you can't look like Hitler while smiling no you don't see

a lot of smiling Hitler pictures yeah um so uh yeah he seems to have gone from ashamed and horrified of his lineage to weirdly proud yeah very clearly here's a quote from him Hitler is my family it's not my fault that I ended up as his grandson or that all those things happened during the war those things I think being the Holocaust uh what he did Has all those things all those things all that stuff all those that that what not yeah what he did has nothing to do with me which you know that's fair

uh he will always be family for me that's weird yeah yeah I don't think evil passes on of course qualities from your parents pass on to you but you build your own life and you make it what it is up until the end of his days Jean-Marie laurray continued to insist that he was proud of being Hitler's son so that's Weird he is wearing a smart little uh sweater tie number yeah so it kind of gives you an idea of what Hitler retired might have right yeah that's exactly right yeah uh so this is not

the end of the story because Jean-Marie had a son Philippe who worked as a plumber for the French Air Force really that's apparently a job the Air Force as Hitler would have wanted it just like Hitler would have loved uh please I want you to deal with French soldiers [ __ ] Uh so in recent years Philippe has opened up about his belief that he is the grandson of Adolf Hitler from him we get quotes such as my father said Hitler was a good lover and was gentle to my grandmother but apparently he was a

jealous person and did not like other men giving her the eye as far as I know he never had any sexual perversions I don't want to make him out to be more of a monster than he is which is weird of all of the things rather than just being Like yeah I think I'm Hitler's grandson but it doesn't mean I'm a bad guy you're like I think I'm Hitler's grandson and my grandpa was good at sex all right what a strange yeah that's a weird fill the die on yeah it's not like Hitler is known

for not being good at sex or being good at sex like either way it's a very strange I hear he was a gentle lover all right see you guys later yeah that's a weird thing you just drop on a journalist right my favorite thing about This story is the way Jean-Marie apparently informed his kids including Philippe that they might be Hitler can uh so one evening they're all seated around the dining room table when quote suddenly my father said kids I've got something to tell you your grandfather is Adolf Hitler well really built up to

that he had a lifetime to write that speech and was just like oh [ __ ] I almost forgot yeah Hitler's your granddad yeah peace Uh Philippe also expressed a weird sort of pride in his possible ancestry and he too keeps pictures of Hitler on his wall seemingly so photographers can take photographs that show off the clear resemblance uh it's the same picture his dad took yeah I mean his mustache is a little less hitler-y his mustache is just a mustache yeah he does have two framed photographs on his wall both of Hitler one of

them is a drawing Um but this is very strange like they look like you know they are in frames where you would have family pictures yeah yeah just Hitler right on his back wall and like like his dad seems to be making some effort to look hitlery yeah and with that casual laid-back Hitler Vibe he has his like one hand on his wrist like just kind of doing a hey just chilling at Hitler the third's dining room yeah I can see the resemblance yeah Yeah I mean it's not impossible that they're actually Hitler's kids it's

just weird to me the impact that just thinking you've got this guy as your relative has on you yeah it's also interesting to me that like so many of those other kids the ones who weren't garbage like as soon as they were old enough to realize what their dad was doing like fled the country but these guys once they think like oh my dead Granddad might have been Hitler they Just go Whole Hog yeah into looking like him like Hey Hitler wasn't that bad he was a good lover yeah say what you will about all

that stuff that happened during the war Hitler could [ __ ] and he was my grandpa the end I think that's the name of his book Hitler could [ __ ] with my grandpa man but what a romantic that Hitler was yeah yeah well this has been a whirlwind yeah uh I've learned a lot about what to do As a parent from these stories yeah any lessons you want to take back home with you just uh yeah burn their belongings while laughing maniacally is kind of one of the first things that puts them in their

place Uday really uh kind of found his place after that it sounds like um Jesus man what a nightmare yeah oh boy that's a fun tale yeah yeah I feel I still feel like having gone over all this like my initial conclusion was Right that that Fidel was probably the least garbage of all these parents but they were all pretty pretty terrible right yeah like not a lot of good cases here yeah so yeah um being a strong leader that maybe that's a lesson for all of us parents to learn like uh the tendencies that

lead to dictatorship don't lead to good parenting yeah authoritarianism isn't a good thing to to bring out and Apparently not yeah yeah although you know maybe the Obama kids will wind up you know carrying out a brutal uh uh Purge campaign against the Trump family and and murder their political enemies so we're not going to talk about whether how we would feel about that but uh yeah I bet the Obama girls are gonna end up just fine yeah I suspect they'll wind up better than we already know the Trump kids have held out I'm really

curious about Baron yeah Baron could be very Interesting Ivanka I mean come on she's she's an All-Star she's a star you guys uh how long do you think it isn't before Putin gives Baron a golden gun [Laughter] it's coming man all right uh well Jack you got anything to plug I hear you have a podcast these days I do have a podcast these days uh almost definitely on the day you're listening to this unless it's weekend we just released an episode uh it's called The Daily Zeitgeist we talk About whatever is happening right now on

a daily basis uh I host it with my co-host miles gray and we have a third comedian on and it's a lot of fun you can find it wherever find podcasts are given away for free you should try and get Hitler's grandson to come on yeah that would that would actually be awesome yeah I'm sure he'd have a fun pronunciation of the word Zeitgeist um oh yeah and you can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter well this Has been behind the bastards and I am and have been Robert Evans uh if we haven't

in this episode gotten to a dictator that you particularly wanted to hear about uh in their parenting strategies uh that's okay there's a lot of dictators who had kids they were all terrible we didn't even get into papadoc and baby doc so this is going to be a reoccurring feature throughout the podcast we'll be checking back in with other dictator parents and their kids Talking about how that's going and you know uh so so if you've got a dictator parent you want to hear about maybe drop us an email uh uh and we'll what is

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