How To Build A Mindset For Success | Peter Crone

After the girlfriend that left me when I was around 29 and I had this huge Epiphany like I really saw the Matrix I really saw the nature of life is uncertainty and I'd been living through the human lens which is trying to find certainty when we transcend that and we step into our True Divine Essence and realize our worth our abundance our feeling of true love that is ours not because of someone then that becomes the Precursor to all of those things starting to show up effortlessly around us it's like a video game yeah it

might look like lost the game for a minute but don't worry you can put some coins in and start over but that could be the place to start to look is how are you perceiving what's going to happen and start to consciously create a future that you can step into you've got a pretty interesting story uh growing up in Dober in the UK Can you just give us a little Montage of how you grew up and and um and how you kind of found your way to that tennis camp in in the stes sure um

yeah and it's appropriate timing because I actually just went on the sort of hero's journey return you know Joseph Campbell style to my family in Belgium uh three weeks ago I only have one living relative who is my mom's brother my uncle and I hadn't seen him for seven or eight years and as part of a sort of a Trip through Monaco and then I went to Belgium Amsterdam I stopped off to you know do my own kind of reconnaissance on my childhood with them and what was I like as a kid and more than

anything I wanted to learn more about my mom and my dad so to answer your question you know I was raised in a little village just outside the town Dover and my mom sadly passed of cancer when I was seven um which made my dad and I extraordinarily close as you'd imagine Um but then sadly he went to work when I was 17 he worked on the faeries that went between do and Cal and do and Zer and he was part of a major disaster where one of these big boats you know capsized and close

to a couple hundred people were killed and unfortunately he was one of them so he went to work when I was 17 never came back so by the rip old age of 17 I was orphaned and um forced quite uh dramatically into survival Mode um also really contemplating the meaning of life and what was the point you know all of those sort of thoughts that people could probably have compassion for like what's the point of being here I'm by myself and so in ways that I didn't fully understand at the time I was definitely um

prepared for a huge amount of compassion as it relates to the experience of isolation right so I was viscerally alone but I would Asser Wyatt Afforded me the skill that I have to help people as I do it's because our identity our ego is alone right it's a separate entity why people struggle with depression anxiety Su suicidal ideations worry stress and so obviously it wasn't fun to go through but it was formative in the way that it created as I said this uh incredible vigilance to start with but it allowed me to become super observant

of human behavior human language why people do what they do um Which then you know that's the short version but allow me to become the Mind architect and help uh people get out of their own way so yeah there were obviously many little anecdotes along the way and I learned so many beautiful things from my uncle about you know how much pain my mom was in I didn't realized that she was really in pain for three years with bone cancer they tried everything they did traditional radio uh radiation chemotherapy she lost all her Hair I

don't even remember that as a kid um they went to lurs you know in France the sighting of the Virgin Mary and the holy Waters is sort of that last hell Mary attempt to have a miracle um so it was very it was very moving to hear what she went through and equally what my dad was like during those periods you know and what they were both both like as my uncle obviously could speak much more to who my mom was as a as a girl because they grew up together and he loved her As

a sister and said she was such a special woman and it's just sort of nice to hear that validation of how I recall my parents because I think we can romanticize sometimes our childhood or superimpose even negative images of our parents like it's their fault you know because our life isn't working somehow so it was just really nice to hear that my inter interpretation of my parents as being incredibly loving was was pretty spoton yeah I haven't lost any parents Or anyone close like that no siblings anything like that um so I don't know what

that is like but you know obviously we all have experiences that that uh leave an impression upon us and I remember when I was 13 my mom stopped celebrating my birthday for some reason she just decided okay we're not celebrating birthdays anymore and my partner recently we kind of we kind of put two and two together and realiz because I'm not a big birthday person I Could care less about birthdays right so I don't know if that was the experience that sort of caused me to shut shut down on birthdays or just or treat every

day like my birthday but I'm curious having been orphaned or having have to reconcile your mom's death for 10 years before your dad passed away did you find that as a result you you made friends with everybody or you didn't make any friends because you weren't sure who's going to still be there like how did it Affect you emotionally or psychologically yeah it's a great question it was really pivotal actually so my first TR what I consider to be love you know at the ripe old age of 28 29 uh as little as we know

about what love is at that point um you know was a woman I met in Sydney Australia I was working for a VIP couple as a trainer back in the day I was sort of sculpting bodies as opposed to you know liberating Souls that that time and minds and so um This was sort of one of those quintessential across the crowded room moments where we you know eyes locked and it was sort of us our fate was sealed and so there was a little bit of complication along the way she was dating someone and I

had some big epiphanies Let It Go she came back you know all the things and then eventually she actually moved to the states with me from from Australia and it was beautiful we dated for about a year and a half or We were together for a year and a half and then one day she decided she was going to leave me and so in ways that I equally didn't understand I had unbeknown to myself been living in my strategy of survival which we all create as coping mechanisms from past hurt right my trauma of loss

meant that I became the perfect boyfriend now ironically I wasn't too far a drift from who I consider myself to be as kind and generous and loving and sweet and you Know not abusive at all I'm like a bit of a pushover but uh I took all of those attributes and kind of Amplified them as a means of trying not to lose her um which of course you know the expression of fear will break its own heart right so my fear which is of loss got manifest because that's how the energetics of human manifestation works

and so it ended up being very painful but equally the Catalyst for you know without sounding too full of myself sort of my Version of an Awakening when two months after she left I realized you know the Matrix of life and particularly my own idiosyncrasy of survival and so that's how it influenced my life is I tended to be more of a recluse so to your question about did I suddenly have tons of friends I was very friendly and people enjoyed my company but I think I was quite happy to sort of do my own

thing I enjoyed my own company and I think perhaps as a survival mechanism don't Get too close to anyone for the fear of you know that heartbreak again um but this was just so instrumental and pivotal metamorphosis of my journey to see wow I had really been living in The Narrative of loss and realized I hadn't lost anything you know my parents died and that didn't make it any easier but the story of loss was being perpetuated versus the event of death had actually ended you know so I understood Psychological time the way that we

manifest our own suffering and all of it and that that then became the precursor to me becoming the Mind architect and uh freeing people's minds hey so a lot of you all have been reaching out with your guest suggestions and look I appreciate it I do and to help make it easier for those guests to say yes to my invitation I need you to subscribe to this channel just hit the Subscribe button below and that's Literally the best way to help me get you that guest on my podcast all right thank you so much for

helping out and back to the show so let's I just want to rewind the tape just a little bit okay you move to Los Angeles um you start this production or you join this production company with a couple of your mates that doesn't go that doesn't work out too well and uh but you're you you you have a degree in Exercise physiology so you start working at this gym I was curious why why did you choose that particular gym in Malibu because La is full of gyms why why that one so you know without getting

too philosophical one of the things I say is we're not victims of life we're benefit beneficiaries of it right so I would say why because I'm a beneficiary of life and so why was it that the friends that I moved to visit in La having originally met one of them coaching tennis in Upstate New York at a summer camp he moved to LA he knew he wanted to be involved in Film Production so why was it that he lived in an apartment building in Santa Monica that had the manager of all the trainers from that

gym in it right so that's how is that you know I very much whether you say it was curated by myself at a deeper level or I'm really you know divine intervention um he one day and I were just shooting Hoops or goofing off and He's like dude you're like shredded you're in great shape like what do you do and I said well you know I studied exercise physiology and human biology and he's like dude I'm the manager of this gym you know and I have all these trainers like I could probably get you a

job if you get certified so I was like all right cool that was easy I'll get certified and um yeah so then that's how I got to that gym which then led to the VIP couple's EXT trainer who decided he Wanted to leave because he had kids and it was too hard to be on the road making films all over the place so he happened to be at that same gym he went to the general manager asked her to put forward a couple of trainers for the interview process and I was blessed to be one

of them so that's how I just happen to have a a roommate in the same shitty rank control apartment building that I ended up in did they say did they ever tell you Why they chose you out of out of all of the different applicants um indirectly you know I think one of the I think there's a couple of attributes that I carried that was appealing to this particular couple which was they were very Dynamic you know the the husband in particular loved Sports activity and I was a tennis coach I was a ski guide

not only did I have training as a a certification but I had human biology exercise physiology as a Background so there was an even greater amount of depth and I think one of the things that really touched him because there was a series of interviews I went to before I met him and uh our first session together he was on the lot at Sony and uh we went to the local gym in the Sony lot and uh I didn't let him lift any weights and he was a little taken aback by that and I said

I just held his wrist for example I Had him lie on a bench and I held his wrist with a bit of resistance and I said you know imagine you're doing dumbbell press and and it really he was really both intrigued but also impressed because what I said to him is I said I'm here to help you be extraordinary and if I don't know how you move without weights it's certainly not incumbent upon me to put weights into your body or on your body without knowing if you're going to hurt Yourself and I want to

see your functional patterns and I think that was a sealing you know attribute that helped um also the fact that I said I had these other um skill sets that that was very appealing and you know and I think I'm a pretty decent guy to be around so they were like you know what as a good human being did you have a spiritual practice at the time I did not not not as a declared practice um I think you know after the Passing of my dad I started to I went to college a couple of

years later that got delayed because I didn't get the grades that was anticipated so I kind of had to in ways that I don't even know what overcame me as an 18-year-old to pick up a phone and call a college that denied me twice already and talk my way in uh you know that that I'm impressed with if that was my son I'd be like damn because I always was very shy but anyway so when I went To college a couple years later so this is you know about seven eight years subsequent to this job

that I got um I met met a friend of mine called guy um I didn't know anyone at the college I hadn't even visited the college I just had an intuition that I was meant to be there and um this is Lao how do you say l yeah it's like wer sh yeah lra um so it's in the Midlands and I did my undergrad and I stayed and Did a postgrad in it and um so yeah when I got there you know was sort of very much just get to know people and I was an

athlete so I got involved with the sports teams and got to know people that way but one of my favorite um things to do was we'd literally sound so sounds so cliche but sit under a tree with this friend of mine guy and we would discuss the nature of Consciousness and I literally found some notes uh a few months ago going through Some old boxes that were his sort of and I you know vacillations about who we are why we're here and so that became a spiritual practice in conversation it wasn't like I was a

a disciplined meditator or anything like that we would talk about those things but um yeah I was really exploring these deep and meaningful questions at the ripe old age of 19 or so so by the time I got to this job which was quite the extremes of Materialism um you know it was nice to know that I I didn't get caught up with that and I'd have to say that was another part to your question about why did they pick me because how would I phrase this whilst I was obviously respectful of who they were

I wasn't impressed right I just saw two human beings who you know did a job made a lot of money millions of people knew them but they wanted to be healthy you know it's like you know Fill in the blank every human being has those same kind of desires so I think I was not phased I didn't get you know in any way intimidated by Fame and I think that also led to a lot of other people who found me subsequently because I was like yeah yeah you're a human being you've got your own subconscious

constraints to create your suffering and your idiosyncrasies and I can help I remember when we met years and years ago you you would make reference to these These um quotes that you would come up with and collect in this box is that back when you first started doing that with you and guy sitting down and talking about these things did that not to the degree that I have now I mean there was certain insights but for whatever reasons after the girlfriend that left me when I was around 29 and I had this huge Epiphany like

I really saw the Matrix I really saw the nature of life as uncertainty and I'd been living Through the human lens which is trying to find certainty right we we're designed to survive so the brain which is always trying to predict and protect us is really always trying to calculate speculate and predict what's going to happen so that we can make it right and when I saw the futility of that mechanism you know that life is uncertain it's as asinine as saying you know well no fire is cold it's like no it's not going to

change right and life Is not going to suddenly be certain however much you try and sit and figure it out so it was from that moment that it's almost like I became a clearing for all of these downloads you know um and that's when the real quotes came through me I just I don't know what it was I just had these non-traditional ways of looking at life that transcended typical traditional thought right so it's sort of those things that go wait what did he just say like I know there's something In that that I need

to pay attention to and so now I've got thousands of them I mean that is the format of my book that you know I've been working on for over a decade as I write quotes and then I expand on them so yeah I just I love quotes I love distinctions and insights I think it's it's it's so powerful to be able to read something in a matter of three to five seconds and have an epiphany or see something you've never seen before um and so I've so far people Seem to love it they share them

a lot on social media so well it's one thing to kind of you know imagine what being a high performer would be like but when you're close in proximity to a couple of very high performers like you said people all over the world know them you see things you you you connect certain dots that maybe you wouldn't not have otherwise so I'm just curious what did you learn about operating at that level from being in that environment for five Years that you wanted to take away and what did you learn that you probably you know

would rather not have in your life great question um I don't know if anyone's asked that question but it's beautiful um so I think given that I came from a very small village in the Southeast can of England orphaned not left a penny even my dad died I he did actually then have a uh he didn't get married but I had a stepmom who I wasn't particularly close to but everything That he had which wasn't much went to her so I literally came to the states with I think 250 bucks or something um so one

of the things that I did see is the extremes of abundance and what that affords you in terms of what becomes available and possible Right like so my first after my first interview I was flown the very next morning to New York because the wife was uh filming there and the way that things were handled was so Exquisite right which I appreciate You know because I always prided myself on my organization I'm a Virgo so I have many of those stereotypical characteristics of order and efficiency you know so by the time IID had the interview

at Sony I got home within 25 minutes there was showing my age a facts you know with my flight itinerary what time the car was picking me up I got to the hotel on the hotel bed there was PDM money laid out there was an invitation to a show that night and so I knew I was In the right place because that's how I like to live life now do I do it 100% of the time no of course I'm going to have my lazy days but so that was one thing that I really um

garnered to another level of impeccability Integrity uh efficiency discipline and particularly the the man you know we could argue that he didn't have to prove himself by virtue of his status in the in the world and yet his level of Dedication was incredible I mean both of them but that was that was really inspiring to me is that even when you've made it don't rest on your laurels don't take things for granted and so that inspired me to keep becoming the best and that's why I became a yoga teacher I became a Pates instructor which

they loved right because it gave them even more faculties to play with as we sort of refine their vitality and their bodies so I just Wanted to keep becoming quot unquote you know the best version of me so that much of that is off the coils of his and her dedication um I can also remember one day which was very profound I was in Sydney just at the turn of the Millennium and I was getting paid a decent amount because of who they were and certainly more than I was making as a trainer and definitely

way more than I had before that working in a bar in Santa Monica Piit but because of the nature of the job I couldn't really spend the money right I had my apartment taken care of I had a car I had a phone I had all my bills were managed um you know it would just be anecdotal if I wanted to get food here and there so I managed to put a bit of money away in the stock market got some good tips and that was back in the time where you could pick any kind

of digital stock you know and you look like a a professional day trader you Know and so I can remember one morning I'm 29 and my portfolio just ticks over a million bucks right and I probably started with 200 something Grand that I'd save really hard to make so I'd five x in about a year or so and and as I sat there I'd also received three boxes from Oakley big boxes maybe four and within those boxes was everything from about 40 pairs of sunglasses you know I know a couple of dozen pairs of shoes

and a Bunch of clothes because that was part of what I did was help sponsor or they sponsored me you know got stuff on these celebrities to wear and blah blah blah and as I sat there I was like so grateful the hero was with a an apartment that overlooked Sydney Harbor I could see the Opera House the bridge it just got a million bucks in my in my stock market account and I got all this free goodies you know and not just anything but free real really good [ __ ] You know and then

I laughed and I said that's nothing compared to what's happening across the street at their house you know and so it was the beauty of perspective that you know I'm getting free sunglasses most of which were for them anyway they're getting free cars and you know whatever like it was just a whole there's different levels like you know there's that song There's levels to this [ __ ] right so um and it was also Super humbling because within I think about six months of that I lost everything right because the stock market crashed I didn't

know what I was doing I just picked some you know fortunate stocks that happened I think one of them 20x or something and um you know and then I went back to just sort of the traditional do the right thing work hard and Rel on my talents and and my dedication to being a caring human being who's making a difference so so There was a lot that transpired in that where I learned as I said the dedication the discipline I got a glimpse of abundance for myself that then also went which then really pulled from

my deeper resources of not giving up and not being a victim of life again um and picking up from scratch and um yeah so there was so much to be grateful and also I'd say say the degree to which he particularly again really sought counsel from people Who were the best of what they did in Lay terms not being scared to ask for help right because having been orphaned I became you know no shock a bit of a lone wolf right and I like you birthdays didn't matter I don't know how many Christmases I've spent

by myself because that's what I became accustomed to and I figured a lot of things out out I became incredibly smart resourceful and studied a lot but it was beautiful to see that he wasn't scared to ask for Help which I think particularly for a man is you know a bit of a uh right of passage to overcome that you know um the quintessential example being directions in a car although I guess men are off the hook from that one because you will have your phone now um so that there was a lot that I

garnered from that and then with regards to the second part of your question of what I wouldn't want to take from it I don't know you know I dabbled with the Whole idea of fame um and how intrusive it is um I think how scary it can be for some people especially having they had kids and that was something that I kind of in a funny way knew that I was my own version of them you know without being conceded I wanted to be humble but knew that I had a gift and sort of reconciled

that you know and I felt there's a different form of Fame right there's Fame that is Untouchable and there's Fame that's relatable and I really wanted to lean into the latter and I think that's where you know in a very very very small way wherever I go I seem to be stopped and people come up to me with an immense amount of gratitude and tears often in their eyes for the difference in my work makes and I feel confident that I'm you know if there is any I don't even like the word fame but some

sort of notoriety people have heard of my work that it's relatable that I'm Human and that I don't see myself as being better than anyone so um I'm glad that you know and I don't think that was their intention was to be better than anyone but it's just the nature of being in Hollywood and people put you on a pedestal you know yeah and then you kind of find yourself in a situation that I think a lot of people can relate to um you're accomplished on paper you look extremely successful I'm sure a lot of

trainers Would look at you and would give anything to be in your position right yet you're thinking to yourself I think I think it's time to move on I think it's time to to yeah do my own thing so talk a little bit about that moment and what was your internal dialogue like when it came to leaping out of that and into becoming you know working with various athletes and and things like that but kind of on your own terms yeah you you got all the questions my friend I love it um no these are

these are really great questions seriously I I appreciate it because it speaks volumes about you as a man and obviously we have some history as friends but um I do appreciate it because often people will jump to you know some of my powerful quotes and explain this unpack that and it's nice for somebody to ask about my own process so that took a lot of Courage right and I did vasolate back and forth for many nights about whether I give this very very comfortable and for many people kind of perfect position up right you know

especially in the realm of training it doesn't really get much better than that you're traveling around the world you're on G5 G6 Jets you know everything's paid for you're making a lot of money you got exposure you're getting a certain degree of press you you're you going to premieres and you know meeting cool people and um and actually on top of all of that only Working a couple of hours because how often can people work out when it's two people you know so so it really was another sort of metamorphosis of my own character the

evolution of my own self and I say very much a spiritual transition to go from something that provided security um to something that you know could say was much more a calling right so I I one of my quotes I say the only Form of real security is the absence of the need for external security and even though that quote was not something that had come through me back then I demonstrated it to myself which is I took the leap of giving up consistent income very comfortable income Insurance all the things that we could want

for um and started a business that didn't have any income so but I and again I really say This with as much humility as I can um and it you know at this point it doesn't matter it's known out there so we can say who it was but I you know I knew I was my own Tom Cruz right like I knew that I was my own version you know definitely not in acting I suck at that um but in terms of a gift uh a purpose a a calling um and a presence the afforded

me the confidence to make that leap you know and realize that okay I don't know how this shows up Or how it's going to work out but there was a degree of trust that I had in myself that call it faith in life and the universe has got my back as I said or just similar to that 18-year-old whatever resolve he had to call the school after being denied and plead his case and uh the beauty of that story is not only did they give me a place and they made me a place but three

years later I got awarded the highest Accolade from the College yeah awarded to the most outstanding student of all round achievement you know at at um at love brough at loveb yeah nice yeah yeah did you did you have clients lined up already or was this was this complete leap of faith and so how did nothing nothing I just knew that as much as because to Nicole's credit she was very philosophical and she and I would have beautiful conversations and that's when I really started to see that I had a Unique perspective and going back

to you know seven years before when I was with my friend guy or a decade before you know waxing lyrical about the the the meaning of life um I recognized that I could see things and it right at the end is when I went through that sort of Saturn return you know 29 to 31 that we all go through that was that moment where the girl left me you know that was sort of right at the end of that so that was also a Catalyst for me to take that leap because I saw the world

now in a different way I realized wow you know I often quote the line from Raiders of the Lost Arc where IND theana Jones and his his girl just the two of them like this rough beaten up cowboy and his girl like you know up against the corporate machine of in this case the French archaeologist who's got all of his diggers and thousands of slaves digging in looking for the Covenant Right the ark and he once he discovers through that like Gem and the light comes through and it shows on that map on the ground

right where it is and he comes up and he's like they're digging in the wrong place right and so I use that quote and I love it because I see that in humanity everyone's digging in the wrong place and everyone is obviously a bold statement not everyone but the majority of people are digging in the wrong place And what does that mean you know they want to acquire more money they maybe want to get a bit of status they want to get the bigger home they want to get the perfect partner the perfect body and

there's sort of this one day phenomenon and to me that's very much a linear progression which is appropriate and by all means pursue it but if you're not playing the spiritual Evolution game you're digging in the wrong place and to me that is much more a linear track Right it's it's it's how can I shift to a different frequency how can because that is the precursor to manifesting things on the material world it's not staying at a frequency of inadequacy I'm not loved I'm not wanted I'm not safe where there's this sort of inadequacy that's

driving this fear to compensate in the outside world that's exhausting and why people are suffering and in a state of disease and so for me it's like when we transcend that and we step into Our True Divine Essence and realize our work our abundance our feeling of true love that is ours not because of someone then that becomes the precursor to all of those things starting to show up effortlessly around us so um yeah so that leap was very much that shift from seeking for the outside world to validate me to me finding internal validation

and allowing that to be the preemptive energy and frequency to a world that would reflect That yeah I I've I've had several of those experiences in my life and again I've been fortunate I haven't lost anybody so it hasn't happened out of trauma or out of you know this kind of Hard Knox life type of lesson about impermanence it was more so out of curiosity for me and I remember um when I was in the yearbook editor in college I know it sounds random but it was like actually the highest paid student position in college

I I got it as a Junior you had to intervie interview to be the editor of the yearbook and um and I elected I did a great job right loved it and I elected not to do it again as a senior which no one could understand right and I said I'm not doing it because I just I want to see what else there is in life to to explore and to discover not realizing it was sort of the beginning of me not being attached of forcibly uh surrendering my attachment To something that look like a

comfortable position something with lots of material rewards something with lots of recognition and I feel like you either get there through the hard KNX approach or the Curious approach and I'm just wondering people listening to this who are a little bit attached to their comfortable position yet they have this calling to do something else is there a way to sort of manufacture that that leap or is the leap is the leap itself The way to kind of manufacture it the first or second time both I mean I'm reminded of and I I might be butchering

this but I think it was the Roman Emperor Cicero and he had this quote where he said there is more glory to be won by expansion than maintenance right so in Lay terms like instead of holding on to and maintaining what you have the real glory and glory in this case could be you know confidence Self-exploration is to take that leap and expand into something that you're not familiar with and I also I haven't seen this film but someone told me about it it was one of the newer Indiana Jones I guess having mentioned him

earlier um there was some scene where you know he's running away from the bad guys as always and he comes to the edge of a tunnel that is a cliff face I guess and what happens is what it's called The Bridge of Faith or something I don't Know what it's called but the bridge the the bridge is there but you can't see it and it only shows up when he tookes takes the step and I've got to find the scene so that I can uh reference it accurately but it's something like that right so and

that really speaks to that phenomenon right where most people are waiting for the sign the reassurance before they take a step but that's not actually there's no growth in that Because that's where you're being Molly cuddled I mean it's not to say that sometimes we don't pursue that because there is a feeling of reassurance and comfort that's fine but there's no growth there right the growth is to go beyond the comfort of what we're currently within which is familiar you know and I'll often say just because something's familiar doesn't mean it's good for you right

so um in terms of how can people develop that I mean start Small you know it could be as simple for a guy I know for me I was terrible at going up to girls right as much as I would be drawn and attracted to through my biological makeup and you know whatever excessive hormones I had in my systems in my 20s you know I you know just was shy and so it might be okay well don't give up your job where you've been getting paid 50 to 80 grand a year yet just because you

want to start your business but maybe you know talk to your Dad who you haven't spoken to for a few years and try that out and uh apologize or share something that's on your chest uh if you know using my example if you're somebody who's drawn you're single but you're drawn to someone at a grocery store you know just take that leap of faith and go hey you know I'm not very good at this and I'm kind of embarrassed and if you want me to go away I will but I'm I'm working on something I

mean if I was on the Receiving end of that I'd be very touched you know um so I think there's ways that we can strengthen by baby steps that um and then some people are a little bit more Cavalier and they're like [ __ ] it I'm leaving my family I'm moving to the other side of the planet you know I'm going to start fresh which can often be a reaction to something so it's not always healthy but yeah I it's like anything practice you know and I think Fundamentally that's the external manifestation of it

but internally it's really that sense of trust right like I've often said I'm a trust fund baby not because I was left a penny because I wasn't but that I trust in the universe and so that there are uh as Byron Katie once had a beautiful story she said you know all these people came to her event or something and they were saying Namaste right but she thought they were saying no mistakes no Mistakes you know and she's like they get it there's no mistakes so you know there's no mistakes I tell people it doesn't

matter what you do you can't [ __ ] it up you know this is a closed system it's like a video game yeah it might look like you lost the game for a minute but don't worry you can you know you can put some coins in and start over Okay so did you is that when you transition from being sort of a body Architect to becoming more of a mind architect yes it was yeah I started my business started coaching you know really down in the trenches of just doing some hourly sessions here and there

you know where it's like yeah a couple hundred bucks an hour an hour and a half session and hoping that they'd follow up and then realizing they did but not because I was hoping but because they were back into their sort of mechanistic habits that are going to be Part of the human psyche and especially the older people got the more entrenched their conditioning was and so then I was like oh hang on a minute maybe we should commit to a period of time so we can start to really make some lasting change and so

you know took a while but rather than just doing one or two sessions and I turned it into like a 90day progam program or three months and then and then I think my big break was in 2007 when I got my first athlete which was a PJ Tour golfer and we had immense success in a very short space of time so people started asking a lot of questions and that opened the floodgates to ton of athletes so to begin with it was very peac meal I was making whatever you know held in comparison to what

I was getting paid consistently from my training job but it was as they say in business that initial dip Theory which is whenever you change any operating system to begin With productivity is going to drop but it is for greater gain in the long run so um yeah to begin with i you also got to see like what people with the dominant issues challenges I mean you said you you don't solve problems you dissolve problems so you got to see what what people's imagined problems were so that by the time you got to the athletes

it's like you were well oiled honed you already kind of knew where to take them you just probably had to learn their Particular um jargon what were some of those problems yeah it's a great point and it it's what allowed me albeit I can still remember the discomfort I even I felt was you know sitting in a locker room with or that was spring training so there's like you know 70 plus major league baseball players vying for 25 spots uh commanding you know on the roster anywhere between one and $1.8 million between them and I'm

this British guy who's never [ __ ] played baseball before addressing them you know it's like talk about a fish out of water so I for sure started to you know hone those skills of dissolving people's problems um some of the problems in that particular case were you know one of my quotes I say past hurt and forms future fear right so wherever we as a human being have had as we do trials and tribulations challenges failures disappointments um we because our brain Is designed to try and avoid that repetition we tend to inform future

fear right I one of my favorite stories was an NBA guy who had the worst free throw shooting average you know this is a few years ago now and of course his future fear was I don't want to miss right I'm sitting in his kitchen and um he's shooting 35% or something League average is 30 75 so he's less than half and um I told him I said well yeah I could see that you're Trying not to miss and that's creating fear anxiety it's seeping into his everyday life his relationships all the things and the

embarrassment he feels and the crowds booing and he's getting paid millions of dollars not to do that and um and I said well what if I told you that for the rest of the season you know you shocked Le League average and he just sort of had the biggest smile on his face he's like that'd be epic but you know how do we do that and I said Well I mean I just made up a new future that's way better than yours we're still sitting in your [ __ ] kitchen right but that could be

the place to start to look is how are you perceiving what's going to happen and start to consciously create a future that you can step into so yeah I definitely was in places that if you told me when I was a kid you know that that's where I'd be I'd be like you're joking you know it's like um I could maybe talk to some soccer players But I'm not going to talk to a bunch of baseball players who are chewing tobacco you know um but it was nonetheless the same principles applied right which is human

beings who at the deepest level want to be loved and accepted it's like that little kid with all of us that doesn't want to disappoint that doesn't want to to fail and sometimes that becomes the biggest obstacle because we're so focused on what we don't want that we are neglecting to focus on what We do want and um so whether you're a baseball player uh a PJ Tour player or an Olympic Athlete or a multi-billionaire the same principles of how our subconscious tends to sabotage our dreams and aspirations were at play and I was able

to dissolve those I know you studied reeda um which is a holistic approach to Wellness yeah and from from seeing all of your work online and your viral Clips it seems like that's a through line is there's a Holistic approach right the way you think about one thing is usually going to be reflected in other things that you're doing or other things that you're thinking about and I'm curious um when you first started coaching people and and talking about these things how much of it was you creating your own framework your own Universe of how

these things go like literally intentionally sitting down and whiteboarding it all out or writing it All out how much of it was just intuitive like you just you would because this happens to me all the time you know after all these years of writing and teaching and speaking people will ask me a question and I'll just I'll get this feeling like say this and I say it and it's like the most beautiful eloquent thing you could have said that I can't I don't even know if I can take authorship of it but it's exactly what

They needed to hear and I'm just curious how much of that you were experiencing in those early days relative to say studying IAT you mean or well just I know you were doing that in addition to everything else so I'm sure that informed um you know how you were you were teaching and coaching for sure and I think you know I would be the first to Express gratitude to life to people to studies that have all in their own way to whatever degree some minor some major Contributed to my own insights and my own ability

to do what I do I would say predominantly it's the former in terms of just for whatever reasons tapped into the cosmic database of insights like the traditional Indian seers right the gurus who they weren't like on their iPads you know they were they were tapped into the universal worldwide web you know and they download it and I feel like you sometimes I'll be doing my Mastermind for example my three-month like the most Powerful process I take people through this brilliant container where I teach my methodology and I coach people and then help them understand

what I'm doing there are times when I say things that I will literally almost like a timestamp for my team I'll say I couldn't say that any better right so it's almost like they capture that because it's like Mozart you know like for me the use of words the combination of words the intonation that are using uh me you know To come out in a way that sounds like music to other people and it transcends as I said earlier traditional thinking that allows somebody to have maybe heard something similar but in a way now just

lands and truly shifts the course of their whole trajectory of life so I can't claim authorship to that either uh and I'm very comfortable with that you know I'm a beneficiary of it and again one of my quotes I say as we express so we experience right so if we express Hatred well guess what you're feeling when I express love guess what you're feeling and as I express insights then I'm equally the beneficiary of those and I literally sometimes when I'm with clients I have to write down what I just said to them because I'm

like I want to reference that for myself later so I would say the majority of things that I share and certainly this um formula for you know Awakening is a strong word but self-realization and freeing the Mind and liberating the soul is very much um something I've tapped into you know it's not people are like where did you study I'm like you know life the universe then of course what's been nice is things like I data which is you know certainly supersedes me as 5 6,000 year old science what I was able to then do

was to see the correlations between some of those insights obviously most to do with physiology and the energies of our body and the doas but how they relate to Some of the things that I speak to that was just a beautiful point of confirmation more than something that I repeated you know it was just oh okay I'm on the right track what are some of the tenants of of Mind architecture when you talk about being in a m architect yeah what are some of the things you you teach so really one of the main distinctions

is to make the subtle difference but equally massive difference between what I call 1.0 Mindset which is what we could call ego or Persona and then this new era of humanity that I speak to which we could call Soul or Spirit right so these are somewhat everyday words that are part of people's lexicon um but really delineating them and understanding that they are part of our humanity and so I break down human being for example as the beginning of my masterm I say the human is the hardware the human is the mind and the sorry

the Body and the brain and then the being is the soul and the spirit the mind is kind of the bridge between the two right you know with all your work and meditation and yoga that they look at the koshes like the different levels right and so what I'm working on is something I call the perceiving self which is our own identity and then we have the Soul the perceiving self as the bridge and then we have the the faculties of our equipment right if you get into a Range Rover you're going to have a

different experience in terms of what's available to you than if you get into like a beaten up old Honda Civic right so but you as the quotequote driver are intact there's nothing missing but the degree to which you get to express yourself and create based on the equipment is why it's important for me to take care of this Meats suit that's why I havea was such a beautiful supplement to my work so really what I'm looking at is in the Tenants of mind architectures to go okay by default my my assertion Peter Cron's assertion is

that we have 10 prisons that we all arrive with and that's what's going to be the foundation of my book so if you were to ask what's the 10 I can't tell you I'd have to kill you you get 10 prisons or prisons prisons constraints limitations okay and some of them we transcend just by virtue of maturity we go through hard and we realize we get a little help we talk to A therapist we talk to a friend we talk to a priest whatever it is and we maybe just through our own um growth you

know transcend but some really Define us so for example one that everyone can relate to one of the prisons is the feeling of not being enough it's an inherent part of the ego that by design it feels insufficient now you may not have had a parent who berated you or criticized you for getting a b as opposed to a as much as that's a very uh stereotyp typical Archetype for kids uh one of my athletes baseball players he would go four for five which is a baseball player epic you know you're batting 800 if you're

a 300 you know you're a Hall of Famer but he would still still to seem miserable and you know I would investigate and I was like why why are you down you just you you were basically the MVP of the game and he's like well you know it just reminds me of my dad he would always say what happened to the Fifth a bat like why didn't you get it you know so you can start to see that that not enoughness is Insidious it's part of the human psyche we can all relate to it a

girl isn't pretty enough a guy isn't strong enough or tall enough or wealthy enough you know a girl doesn't her boobs aren't big enough or what whatever it is the not enoughness is it's uh it's it's replete in The Human Condition and so mind architecture is when I worked with someone they would Tell me whatever they're dealing with it could be a physiological issue they could be sick they could have a relationship problem they could have a uh an emotional sort of feeling of depression anxiety whatever it is is um they could have financial problems

and what I do is I reverse engineer whatever the problem is into one of these prisons sometimes to and so as I reveal because whatever we're conscious of is an extension of what we're not conscious of So the subconscious prison or constraint is the Genesis for the thoughts feelings actions and outcomes right if people follow that that Cascade who we are at the deepest level for ourselves is what creates how we think feel consequently the choices and behaviors we have which always gives rise to the results we get right and if you understand that it's

very powerful when we go and seeing an expert most people focus on actions well don't do this do that right so you're Sort of too far Downstream because you might be able to sustain that for a while if you have willpower like trying to quit smoking quit drinking like don't do this and do that but they don't understand that at the deepest level in their subconscious who they are for themselves is not good enough they're not loved they're not wanted something in the the not bucket noot which is a resistance to self which creates suffering

and then we seek to escape Suffering in this case those examples might be nicotine or alcohol so unless you deal with a deep prison then at best you might get temporary relief because of willpower or shame you know because your partner is making you wrong for something so mind architecture is really getting to the root cause of these psychological constraints and limitations and through investigation uh negating the validity of them meaning to see that they're not True like if I were to open up light you know where am I going to find this not good

enough it doesn't exist as part of your Hardware it is simply a conversation and so when people see that the epiphanies that arise are just so moving along with often a lot of emotion right because they maybe been living in this world for 30 40 years confined and they have the people pleasing perfectionism as a coping strategy which is now creating their Hashimoto because They're exhausted from trying too hard blah blah blah and then they realize it's all built on this very very shaky Foundation of some feeling of inadequacy so I pull the carpet from

beneath a whole Persona and reveal this new world of you know pure possibility and ultimately my main product as you know which is freedom yeah a lot of people I'm sure you've had this experience you know you post some really profound clip online And you'll get a comment where someone completely misread it or misinterpreted and they send you this long thing and you can see clearly like a children's book oh you made this assumption and that assumption and those were two very incorrect assumptions cor so when it comes to uh liberating ourselves from this these

prisons is that self-investigation do you teach how to do that on your own or does one need as a a facilitator in order to transcend Their own blind spots again great question I I don't think you know need is a word that's based in resistance and that's part of my Mastermind where I speak about certain words carry limitations themselves so if you need to do something then you're already in a state of fight or flight so you don't need a facilitator but I would say and I would argue for the fact that that is the

beauty of relationship right everything In life is based on relativity if I'm lying in bed and I'm hot and if I move my leg I feel the cold sheets it's only relative to where I was and so that's why relationships to me is so pivotal and so powerful because it's through relationship with another human that our rosn icies come to the surface so that we can transcend them now not everybody is a good facilitator right not everybody knows how to listen some people have their own biases they have Their own agendas that they want to

superimpose they're trying to sell pharmacology you know products or whatever it is to meet their you know quarterly budgets um so I think it's it's helpful if you have someone who knows how to listen or a community which is what I've created with my masterminds and my uh my membership Freedom so that you are held in a way that doesn't feel judged that you can share transparently and vulnerably and then you just through Your own awareness that's when you can do some of your self-reflection and go holy [ __ ] I have for 30 years

really felt that I wasn't lovable you know we can have compassion for that you know but my excuse was oh there's no good women in New York or there's no good guys in Chicago and like that was the way that I protected myself from my own hurt of thinking that I'm not lovable so I think it helps to start with to get Council support one once you understand The mechanistic nature of the subconscious and these constraints then you can start to through your own faculty of realizing oh if I'm triggered by something if I'm upset

if I'm suffering there's something that I'm missing and that's one of my more famous you know quotes or popular quotes I say life will present you with people and circumstances to reveal where you're not free so that then if you've gotten a little bit of a head start a little bit Of counsel you know a little bit of help understand the mechanism of the human ego then just live life and wherever you get presented with people in life and circumstances to reveal where you're not free meaning you get pissed off upset or uh down then

there's something that you're not recognizing that's in the way of your own magnificence and Divinity hey really quickly if you like this content or if you don't like it let me know down in the comments because your Likes and comments are going to help me learn what you want more of and then that way I can keep bringing you the good stuff all right thanks so much for your feedback and back to the show yeah I've heard you uh talk about suffering and as opposed to pain yeah and um so what's the ultimate um objective

with Liberation what is what is the is it an experience of presence is it more is it more fulfillment is it just the absence of suffering how would you articulate That I think all the above I mean I'm going to default my favorite word which is freedom it's total freedom but with that there's all of these bedfellows of experiences right so for me I again share in The Mastermind that if you're totally free then what you start to really tap into is the essence of your own sense of love and when you're in that space

you also start to see the world in a different way where you truly see Nothing but possibility and then from that place you start to feel in your body a sense of Vitality and then in your relationships because of that precursor the Cascade continues and you start to feel real connection with people right so the the system that I created it's so beautiful in terms of these 10 prisons because as you sort of like whack-a-mole as you deal with one it opens up the spiritual characteristic that's on the Other side of the constraint and they

Cascade into this very virtuous cycle versus a vicious cycle right so if I'm living in a world where I feel separate where I don't think I'm enough well then I'm going to be in a state of suffering what's that going to show up as in my body disease at some point if I'm a state of disease then my ability to relate and have intimacy with people is compromised my ability to have abundance is definitely compromised and so we go Into this spiral of you know basically leaving what looks like a normal life right where eventually

I get old I get sick and [ __ ] doesn't work out what I'm exposing is the antithesis of that which is this entirely new world where I'm living from my fundamental inherent sense of freedom and then the Cascade of these beautiful spiritual qualities or Soul characteristics start to come online and uh there is absolute Joy with that true peace so that is the absence Of suffering and in the absence of suffering I would assert that what you find is true Freedom love and possibility and just to kind of paint a real world picture of

what that could actually look like yeah what I'm what I'm what I'm coming away with is you're in you you do your best you are excellent in the way that you show up in in life you obviously on the Spectrum um and maybe you fall in love with someone but it doesn't work out and it's okay It's okay it's not a thing where you're you're seeing um them as a bad person or you as a victim and you can kind of move on and you go into a business Arrangement it looks great doesn't work out

it's okay you don't have to project the thing that's not happening onto whatever is around you you can more easily sort of reenter and stay present focused as opposed to regretful about what didn't happen or worried about what may happen in the Future yeah or blameful towards somebody or a circumstance absolutely so that's one iteration right which would be for most people a real big step in evolution of being a much more powerful human being right I'm no longer a victim of circumstance I'm not pissed off at my wife or my husband because they left

me and now I'm talking to their attorney and we're squabbling over air miles right no that's the very you know secure way of living where it's basically a Child having a tantrum right like I am at the effect of somebody else's choices that's never going to work out that's you know hatred is a curved blade and that's where people sort of superimpose their own suffering onto somebody else so that is one iteration where you mitigate all of that suffering by realizing okay this isn't necessarily what I wanted this was a beautiful relationship and if they

chose to leave you perhaps there could be naturally a Subjective feeling of you know loss or sadness and grief they wouldn't come with anger and judgment and blame and accusations right so that would be an evolutionary step and then the same with a career if you got laid off from work you know you wouldn't necessarily go into Despair and destruction or of being vindictive um or you know badmouthing your employer or something like that you'd be like okay I'm going to be fully responsible for why is this happening Because life is trying to show me

something in this case it could be you're playing too small you know you've been talking about starting a business for a decade but you're scared and you've been holding on to this security of a monthly check but really life is like you're ready you know we we're going to jettison you from this company not because you did anything wrong but be we want you to step into your greatness so then that would be a new Way of relating to life what I would say the more evolved evolution of that is not only would you not

have a reaction to something like that you wouldn't even attracted in the first place right and that's not to say that everything is just rainbows and unicorns you know we don't want to be Mr kumay too much but when you really understand the depths of abundance and value and self-worth and love and freedom that we have at the essence of Who we are then that frequency just like any oldfashioned radio sitting on your kitchen table dialed in tends to attract the music and the tones that are appropriate for that so yes it may not be

a sort of everlasting relationship but it was beautiful and you're both grateful for it and it might not be a job or a client that you know is the quintessential but you really appreciate that's exactly what I needed for right now and then I'm going to move On to the next Milestone so it is the absence of reaction and it is leaning more into the co-creation that I'm a conscious being who as best as I can is Discerning the way that I want to in a disciplined way but also in a trusting way manifest the

circumstances of my life that are for my greatest good yeah yeah when you when you spend more than 10 minutes scrolling on social media you're going to come across you know so many different quotes telling You you're not doing this right you're not seeing this situation correct you need to do the work you need to become this you need to you know when it comes to this concept of doing the work as it relates to mind architecture and liberating ourselves what are some of the daily practices if you could share uh just just if someone's

listening to this and they resonate with everything we're saying is there anything they can do on a daily basis to kind of put Themselves in a poll position for this level of growth and Liberation great question um I think the first thing to do is recognize the game that I'm talking about right the spiritual Evolution game versus the human progression game so meaning you know recognize that you're either playing one or the other and we can OS between the two it's fine to try and amass more money or get a bigger home or find a

better looking partner or chisel your Body these are all great right but if it's out of context meaning if you don't understand the bigger game of foot which is I'm here to evolve and to basically Break Free like that to me is the game of why we're here why we incarnated so that's the first thing to look at is if you're caught up in very much the material world and I don't mean that in the very you know sort of gratuitous form of just cash and bling but really just like I'm trying to manage my

Circumstances then you're already off base right it's like okay here's the opportunity if I'm here to grow and evolve as a being and to recognize my own Divinity which is boundless Timeless and Limitless where do I currently feel the antithesis of that right where do I feel frustrated who am I not talking to who am I blaming for my circumstances these are all treasure trows right this is where I'm pretending to be a victim so that's the first place to start is Where do you have some narrative that you're life circumstances are because of something

or someone else and start to realize that's just not true it's just not true you have and sometimes and this by the way does not condone Behavior sometimes people go who through horrific things you know people are abused sexually emotionally physically taken advantage of financially it really feels like you're a victim of something but I would even invite people in that in Those very challenging tragic situations to realize at some level not consciously you are curating these experiences because there's something for you to Garner and learn from so once so that's the first thing to

see is where are you being a victim versus where are you being 100% responsible and it is an onoff switch it's not like a gradient you're either fully responsible or you're not and if you're not then you're saying that you're at the effect of life And that's a very powerless place to live so that's where we have to start then as best as you can start with the lwh hanging fruit you know you're pissed off with a friend somebody who you really love and they love you but because of some disagreement they started dating an

ex or whatever [ __ ] story on the surface that's upsetting you do you really want to make them wrong for that or are you willing to step into a more evolved person and Have that conversation and say hey I apologize I've been judging you and making you wrong because at some level I get a payoff right again one of my quotes I say making someone else wrong or being right is the poor man's version of selfworth right so that's where you can start to see I'm being kind of childish here I'm not talking to

my dad and my mom because you know I think it's their fault that I didn't go to the right college or I Wasn't loved enough or they whatever it is it's just playing small so for me that's the place to start in the daily is look at where am I being a victim where versus where am I being responsible and then it's a progression you know chip away at the areas you're being a victim with whom and with what circumstances and sometimes we need help you know if I'm being a victim of my finances you

may have good reason you know most people's victimhood mindset Does have good rationalization you might need some support you might need a little bit of a boost and investment you might need a friend to help you out you might need a financial colleague to give you some advice that's okay but don't stay in your story of like you know I'm never going to make it or what's the point or you know I'm never going to be wealthy like these are all just stories you know I I can remember and someone I spoke to a client

this morning and I Cited this one of my first he actually my second golfer after you'd seen the success I'd had with one all these golfers started lining up and this second guy I worked with he um you know started to have quick success within about two or three months and he sent me this text and he said I just got it I just got what you've been telling me it just comes down to whoever's got the best imagination and that's why I love and I Even have a company called Abracadabra because as you may

may know but Abracadabra we obviously associate with magicians they pull out the rabbit blah blah blah and it's Abracadabra but the Hebrew translation of magic real magic is as I speak so I create that's what Abracadabra means so if you really want to be a powerful human being then start to truly be responsible for the way that you speak because your words are creating the Container for the life that you're living wow that's beautiful I love that so I'm GNA wait over into a little bit of sort of tricky territory here let's go talking about

conventional therapy I saw a therapist once and you know I've been doing my own work and reconciling and taking responsibility and obviously she wants to talk about my childhood my parents were up to what they did what they didn't do and I kind of had a what I thought was a healthy way of sort of Relating to the whole thing right like they were doing the best they can blah blah blah and she kept Shifting the conversation back to no no no they were abusive you were a victim blah blah blah I didn't resonate with

it I didn't stop I didn't continue seeing her after a couple more sessions but I'm curious about the Mind architecture perspective in General on therapy and and how can we use therapy for Liberation as opposed to uh doubling down on this these stories That a lot of people um are being indoctrinated with by by some of the therapists who may not be as talented I mean look it's how long's a piece of string right like it's like you could talk about private chefs to private trainers to you know yoga teachers like it's so hard to

say because there are some brilliant therapists right there are some incredible yoga teachers and then there are the yoga teachers That are sleeping with 18y old girls and Below you know there are therapists who equally are just trying to make more money by pushing you know benzo diazines and the well Butrans and the proacs and what ever um so it's so hard to say the good news is no mistakes Namaste right like meaning wherever somebody's at right now and whoever you're in front of you are going to be presented with whatever is appropriate for you

so you can't not be in the right place it Doesn't mean that the circumstances are ideal or what you want or even comfortable um you know um so I think it's all valid it's all lessons it's all life trying to help us to evolve and if right now somebody's with a therapist I know somebody I know has been with a therapist forever and they find comfort in the familiar but I also feel it's a disservice to their growth right it's an attachment therapy right where there's the therapist starts to become More like a friend and

they justify your opinions versus perhaps investigating them and maybe you know not to invalidate them but to help you transcend them right because it's like any friend a really good friend will have as part of the tenant of their commitment to the Friendship a bit of tough love about them right which is pull your head out of your ass you know versus those yes people around us and sometimes they become the professionals We hire are really more intent on keeping you as a consistent client versus as I often said at the beginning of my career

you know I said the greatest gift you can give me is when you tell me that you don't need me anymore but that takes some balls right and really is a stand for what I believe which is as I tell people again I can't give you something you don't already have I'm just here to help you remove what's in the way of you seeing That what what's an average amount of time that someone does work with you until they get to that point where they can kind of run the the program on their own oh

it varies in my Mastermind I might work with someone for 15 minutes you know and they see something they can't unsee now depending on their age they might need reinforcement and that's why the community is there to help but you know and I mean I've got one of my baseball players who was an MVP of the Whole National League which is the biggest Accolade he could get he's worked with me for 15 years so you know it's it's it just depends right uh it's not that he has any problems because you got the the sort

of scale right if we could talk about people dealing with real trauma real suffering real constraints but once you break out of that world and you step into this world of Freedom there's a whole new world to explore right so it's one thing to be in A reactive state where I'm trying to avoid things but it's a completely different proposition to become a human being who's now truly exploring potential so I've got clients who just okay they overcame their shortcomings their illusions of constraint and their prisons and they're like [ __ ] a now I'm

ready to go you know I'm not trying to like hide my my flaws and my imperfections I realized I don't have any I just had a story of inadequacy or Insecurity about myself and now that I've transcended that I'm free what else can we do here on this planet you know so it the timeline is it's really up to the individual and what they're committed to sometimes it comes down to Simple Resources and sometimes it comes down to hey you know you you you started me on training wheels you took them off I'm riding like

a champ and I'm going to see how far I can go without you and I'm like have at it you know um it's also Why I created this community again of Freedom so that people can stay in a conversation even if they're in a great place because it's you know I tell people in my Mastermind with all due love I said you know we're a bunch of freaks in here I hope you understand that right we're really committed to breaking being free to loving each other to not making each other wrong to truly seeing a

world of possibility that's that's not what you're going to get at Your local Starbucks you know you're going to get people are pissed off because you cut in line and there's animosity on the roads and you know so I think it's important to have a container whether it's your local church or your local community event where you feel this sense of intimacy and camaraderie so that we can keep to push forward this world of you know true Freedom love and possibility and vitality as I say so you know whatever means if it's therapy if It's

friends if it's your local priest if it's a life coach or it's fine you know it's where you're at but I know that even for myself look at sports right you might start as a junior golfer and you you know you have your local high school coach helps you or even your dad and then eventually you know that doesn't work and your buddy who's a scratch player at College he starts to step in and then maybe you get better and then You need a professional coach you know there's Evolution so maybe someone does need a

a basic friend right now just to listen to without judgment and then maybe they'll go a little deeper with a great therapist and maybe they'll stay with that therapist for a while and then maybe they'll get a psychiatrist or maybe they'll get you know I I don't know you know but uh I'm grateful certainly for the people that find inspiration in my work I'm not the be or Landoor there's are many many means of finding Freedom through different roads to Rome and there's a lot of great people out there who lend great Insight so I'm

just always flattered by the people that choose to sort of jump in my classes and and uh find Freedom through my methods yeah we're both kind of in the root cause business and I'm sure we both have seen over the years that it's definitely a harder sale when you're selling root root cause versus the Band-Aid the quick fix the shortcut you know yeah so yeah what are some sort of creative ways that you have presented this information that you feel does kind of break through the traditional sort of shortcut marketing you know tactics that a

lot of people use who who um are luring people in with hey you can change overnight and all you have to do these three things I think what I've relied on more than anything is my own Authenticity you know that I'm not I'm not I'm really shitty at sales right like it's not my forte and so I think like anything as much as it's an old an old business model mine relies very much on Word of Mouth so you know when there's few hundred people from all around the world in one of my masterminds and

they're Blown Away in ways that for 40 years they've been trying to get over anxiety depression or whatever and they're just like holy [ __ ] Like they can't not tell their loved ones and family and then they're like well when's the next one I want to be in that you know and so these are people I mean I was just in Cancun as I said at this Retreat and I probably got stopped by 40 people that I've never met before in my life one guy literally was crying and shaking something guy in his 50s

he said you have no idea you probably saved my life you know so I think it's like anything in in life We can only express ourselves to the best ability with the greatest of intent and hopefully with some sort of degree of authenticity and it lands where it lands I'm sure some people hear me and go this guy's you know what are his qualifications or he's full of shed or you know fortunately I don't get much of that but um I just trust that the people that are meant to hear what I have to say

and are inspired by what I share will find a way of connecting with me Whether it's just you know at some point my book comes out maybe they start there maybe they join Freedom for 20 n bucks a month because it's super affordable maybe they join my Mastermind eventually I'm going to have a school you know these are just different levels of Engagement um and maybe just this podcast alone is enough for somebody hopefully to have a shift so you know I I don't try to be anyone other than who I am and I rely

on the the goodness of My intent and I know that because I went through this to go back to some of your earlier questions of my Genesis of how I went through things I can remember in another breakup um I really broke down and it was a very trying time for me not the story of loss cuz that really happened you know when I was 29 with that first girlfriend but this was more the story of not being enough for me that was one of the prisons that came to the surface she was a bit

younger and She started dating a a dude in college and I was like holy [ __ ] you know in my mind I'm like he's going to be more of a stud and fitter and D all of this right and it really got to me and then I realized you know one of my things that upset me the most was how caring I was and I saw it as a weakness you know because this guy was more whatever you know a college dude didn't give a [ __ ] and and I saw my caring as

a weakness as I said and then I realized I I woke up In the middle of the night and I was like holy [ __ ] like my caring is a superpower right that's not something to judge myself for but rather something to be proud of and to enhance and I think from that moment forth I realized I'm not here to manipulate people I'm not here to take advantage of people the amount of above and Beyonds that I do you know both for paid events unpaid events the number of prison prisoners that I've given free

courses to because They'll never have access to my work through this um compassion project charity that we work with you know I know I care and I'm I'm okay with that you know so if people find solace in my work great if they go somewhere else great I'm I'm not going to take it personally so yes I I know that people would love it if I said hey this is how you get rid of anxiety you know because then the four 500 million people who deal with anxiety it's like oh that's me And we use

some of that terminology because obviously we need to connect with what people struggle with but I'm not interested in helping you with your anxiety I'm helping you understand why you have it you know so I trust and so far so good the last few years being on beautiful podcasts like with you my friend and great questions seems to be reaching sufficient amount of people who are willing to take a a look at some of the deeper attributes of what it is to Be human and how difficult that can be at times and find some relief

and and certainly keeps me busy beautiful man I think that's a great place to end it I appreciate you um it's been wonderful catching up with you again after all these years and uh again watching you and your message get bigger and bigger and just more relatable to so many people and uh and I'm I'm I'm grateful to be able to spread your message in my community and And and hopefully far beyond thank you my friend it's really a joy to reconnect I miss you and uh I'm also happy for everything that you're doing and

all the books you're getting out there and the people you're reaching with your own version of caring you know the world needs more of that in a world that seems right now to be uh somewhat saturated with the absence of care so we'll keep fighting the good fight and um you know those who are ready to to join us in a World of as I said Freedom love possibility and vitality versus the current world of limitation fear suffering and disease you know I'm here for it thank you so much for watching just FYI we post

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