JRE MMA Show #147 with Sean O'Malley & Tim Welch

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day and we're up boys when we did the first one together y was like 5 years ago yeah I think it was 2017 right or 2018 yeah I was 2 and0 in the UFC I was just coming off the Andre soccer mom fight where I broke my foot um 20 yeah I was 23 yeah that was just after your broken Foot yeah yeah and now here you are the [ __ ] Champ of the world we did

Living in a Dream like it's crazy cuz that whole fight week I always take a lot of naps fight week especially because it was on the east coast and we were trying to stay up late and I would have crazy vivid dreams not necessarily about the fight but just really vivid dreams and uh so after the fight it just felt like I was kind of in one of those dreams I'm like there's no way that went out that Play out perfect there's no way that played out literally how I wanted it to play out so

for a while I kept thinking like I'm going to wake up in my bed and still have to go out there and do that but I haven't woke up from a nap yet so we're still rolling well it makes you wonder what dreams really are yeah it it's so weird that we just accept that we close our eyes every night and scenarios take plays that don't really take place and they seem super Vivid and And then weird things happen in them and then you wake up you're like oh that wasn't real but we just accept

that there's many times where I've been in a lucid dream or many times I've been in a dream that felt so real yeah like what like what's going on in our heads probably a lot during sober October for you too cuz I noce when I quit smoking weed in Camp like when I get closer to the fight my dreams are so [ __ ] Vivid it's kind of scary it's like a snapshot Of another dimension I'm like that could that possibly be us in another dimension witnessing our Life play out some other way it it

could be that what you're doing is like peeking you're like every night you like peek into other dimension and then pop back up in the morning when you wake up that I mean that's one that's one of the theories about DMT it's some sort of a chemical gateway to the next Dimension or the next realm of existence and that when the lights go Out and then your brain floods with that stuff your Consciousness uses that chemical as a Gateway yeah I never we've never done DMT i' I've I've told myself I want to do like

dmti iot stuff after fighting cuz right now I have a mindset to I want to be World Champ I want to be the greatest I want to kill in the cage but I feel like if I do something like that maybe I I switch that around want to wait yeah might be a problem you might become loving yeah that that's Literally the issue like all right I still have that [ __ ] want to kill yeah not Sean Strickland want to kill but like in the cage like dominate yeah dominate when we're talking to Dana

too he said Cheeto was recently started doing mushrooms when he was training and stuff I wonder if that has anything to yeah I wasn't I wonder if that has anything to do with his uh performances with versan Haagen and stuff just looks stuck in the mud I think it's just Sandhagen I that's what I think San Haagen was just way faster way he's so diverse he's got so much going on I love watching that guy fight because like when he's going after folks he's given them so many looks there's so much going on and you

don't it's there's the patterns are non-existent I me sure exist but I'm not picking him up there's you know you think he's going to kick he shoots you think he's going to punch he kicks there's movement to the side he Think he's going to engage and he doesn't yeah his last three flight fights too he's been really wrestling a lot so you got to think like cuz I I don't know I could fight I mean there's a couple different people I could fight next but like thinking about fighting Cory it's like okay is he going

to be turned into that wrestler or is he going to want to strike or is he going to mix it up I'm assuming you know going into a fight with Cory is going to want to mix It up a bit but it's interesting he can do anything yeah and the fact that he pulled that fight off with a completely torn tricep first round tears the tricep from the bone needs surgery and I was excited for that fight too yeah me too I watched I I mean I stopped watching at one point I think that was

the same night like Jake Nate so I was kind of flipping back forth but yeah I was I was so excited for that fight I thought it was going to be one of those bangers but I mean he did what he had to do to win just and just super not and wasn't super entertaining yeah I was really interested in seeing him fight Umar yeah yeah that was the interesting one yeah you know and when [ __ ] I forgot that was it yeah Umar N medov is a [ __ ] he's a problem I

want him to start I mean he's got the name N nurov I don't know how many fights he has in the USC how many wins he has I've actually never really watched a fight but I know he's got the Name and I know he's [ __ ] super skilled he trains with those guys that could be a huge fight someday I want him to [ __ ] start winning some fights I was I was excited for him to potentially beat Cory or for Cory to get a win over him right just to build characters and

build like big fights CU that's I want I want big [ __ ] fights well you're going to bring big fights that's what's so exciting about having uh someone who's a champ who's such a big Personality yeah and there's so many eyes on the bantamweight division now you know the bantamweight division has always been like just a [ __ ] murderer Row from hennon Barra to TJ Dillashaw like across the board Dominic Cruz you know God damn I mean it's some Cody garbrandt like people like forget because of Cody's losses but how Co good Cody

is when he's on yeah you know Cody's just a guy who's been in a lot of Wars you know seems like he's got just Injury issues too right a lot of injury issues which sucks I remember after one of my fights I got injured and he said some people just aren't built for this and that didn't age well for him but I mean hey dude I'm [ __ ] I feel like I'm fragile sometimes too if I didn't start working with Brandon Brandon Harris like my strength and conditioning coach and Dan Garner for nutrition like

I feel like I was getting injured all the [ __ ] time yeah it sucks this Sport's Brutal it's the most brutal and there's no way to prevent that really you know some people are incredible like Jim Miller yeah Jim Miller's never had surgery I feel like it's their jeans they're just they got to be he's got some weird [ __ ] Woodsman jeans yeah some blogger jeans right like a Benson Henderson it's crazy there's just so many different paths to make someone a champion there's not just there's this one way you got to do

it yeah no there's There's so many ways like Sean Strickland sparring all the time and then I [ __ ] literally only spar in Camp it's like just two opposite Styles both just one similar times wild what what Sean is doing is so unique because you know they put a mouthpiece on him you know the UFC had some device I think it was a mouthpiece did they use it with you or they try to figure out how many times he get hit sparring well they gave him this thing and they found out that He spars

more than all the other Fighters they tested and he gets hit less than all the other Fighters they tested he gets hit less than anybody which is amazing but it's the timing is his distance control he's like so tuned in to the idea of hitting a person not just hitting a bag not just doing drills but all of his moves all of his movements when he's training are hitting people I wonder how many of his sparring partners Are like I don't even want to [ __ ] hit him cuz he's just going to turn it

up and it's going to be a full fight cuz there's guys you spar with it's like okay if I hit this dude we're going to fight he's just there's no so I wonder how many of those guys know going into sparring like okay if I even hit him it's going to turn into something I might as well just kind of play around for five minutes get to the next guy I'm sure but I mean you look at the guys He's Got Talented guys he trains with like Chris Curtis Chris Curtis is talented and really Chris

Curtis is really talented in the pocket you know he's really good at like ripping the body is boxing is excellent he's got really good defense so him and Shawn together I mean that's like just two Savages yeah just good boxers too and strick solid boxing Strickland just doesn't switch stances at all just Orthodox the whole time man it was [ __ ] sweet to watch and dude his leg checks the checks from those kicks was so on point impressive none of them snuck in the best at that at all time from of all time of

sneaking kicks in is paja so scary yeah it doesn't it doesn't like make sense the way doesn't just like his shin moves nothing else it's wild he keeps his shoulders completely square and you do not see it coming so he sacrifices I mean but he's got so much power he can sacrifice some power And it doesn't matter he's just doing numbers on that calf yeah and Izzy's leg was [ __ ] after the first round of the second fight you could tell I can't that's crazy they just added that to the co-main event for Jon

Jones and Stipe because neither of them are champions so they're G to stack that [ __ ] card and only have to pay out Jon Jones because he's the champion for pay-per-view oh that's look you thinking like a businessman now the champ thinks like a Businessman I've been thinking like a businessman I've been I feel like I've been champed for a long time and just find the offici but uh yeah that card is going to be [ __ ] sweet who else is on that card know I think there's another another Banger on that card

yeah they always try to stack New York City that Madison Square Garden card is special there's something special about that Arena that Arena gives you Goosebumps just walking In you're like God damn that TD Garden was [ __ ] crazy cuz I my first like nine fights in UFC were all in Vegas Vegas Vegas Vegas and then I fought in Abu Dhabi and then we went to Boston so that was the first time fighting somewhere other than Vegas in the United States yeah so those are the two big ones and scroll down we'll see the

rest of it Jessica Andra McKenzie dur that's a good fight okay some decent but not jar Gordon Mark Madson that's a good Fight match no yeah I thought there was more bangers sometimes they have a nice p uh prelim nice Main Event pre what's the prelim go to the ESPN would be right here this just the fight okay so that that's what make sense cuz this doesn't look like the actual order cuz here we're we're talking in September and um I believe those the that's the main the co-main and probably maybe the fight before that

but they might move all this [ __ ] around Yeah this is just the announced fight yeah okay that makes sense I don't think they would open up the pay-per-view with these matchups I guess it it's not even October yet so right I'm very interested to see how much stipe's got left in the tank you know one of the things I really like is that he spent all this time off so he hasn't been hit he you know no punishments no Wars no Kos he's been two solid years of recovery that's huge it's big even

if he wasn't training crazy but His body was able to kind of recover I feel like there's so much into that than just being training training training training and [ __ ] busting yourself down yeah I mean it this supp never take anything away from DC but I've often wondered if that KO if some of that KO was him coming off of that fight with Francis cuz if you go watch that first round of that fight with Francis yeah Jesus lisus I mean Francis hit him with some meteors He's so [ __ ] he just

opened up the gas tank too much and ran dry but he wasn't patient he was just trying to take him out just winging wild and burned off all his energy but Stipe took some shots he took some [ __ ] shots yeah Stipe forced some of those wrestling scrambles and that just Zapped Francis I think that Stipe Jon Jones fight's going to be more competitive than people think well the the real question is you know what is it like When Jon fights a legit heavyweight that can do everything thing yeah right cuz steepe is not

just like Cal Gan is a fantastic Striker I mean he's one of the most beautiful Strikers in the heavyweight Division I love watching that guy move he does wild stuff you ever see how he throws that front kick from a side stance and he throws like a twisting kick uh-uh he doesn't throw the front he stands like Southpaw right and he's he Bobs around like this and he's Totally sideways and he twists his foot out oh they'll show it there let's see he twists his foot out like a twist twisting kick if they show the

the front kicks to the body if he does any he did a lot of them against taiu iasa yeah I thought him versus Jon Jones was going to be a [ __ ] crazy like War at least kickb him but John John's just so much better at wrestling yeah so much better Grappler he's so fast man du that's crazy think cuz du looked good last Fight right the KN he look skinny looked sh but he just doesn't have the the the kicking acument he just it's not his style if if you could find the ones

with that's that's him throwing kicks but H he just does this weird thing where he stands sideways and instead of the front kick going like this like straight out the front kick goes like this so he's oh yeah yeah I know okay so his knee when he lands is almost like sideways he did a lot oh that was a two evasa fight that Was a crazy fight Tai's only like 32 or something wasn't he oh my God I thought that [ __ ] was he's 85 in war especially with the boo some FU oh yeah

the booze and the war he's just an animal man boo will get you hopefully they'll show it oh boom boom oh yeah he kept stabbing him with this front kick oh there's this is like this is the combination oh my God he was good yeah stabbing body he's just so unusual for a heavyweight that kind of movement there It is see it yeah that look more like a front kick that was definitely more like a front kick but he'll show it totally sideways it's a little trick almost like a crescent kick or something like that

which people are starting to do now too I forget this dude's name but one guy knocked a guy out in a MMA fight with an inside Crescent kick and I was like I was always wondering I was always wondering if someone's going to be able to pull that off where you stand like This you go like that yeah you do it like this way yeah it's just so hard to pull off you know you move it around Anderson tried it a few times yeah I'll thr I'll throw out that's nasty thinkink that looked [ __

] weird I shouted out that dude on Instagram when it happened what but what is his name Jamie Justin Barry Justin yeah show that one more time because like from where he's standing you kind of feel like you're safe that Was right to the [ __ ] Shin of the sh so you see how he's it's like he's kind of he's his foot is in the center right so watch how he stands he's kind of out of out of place you would to kick you in the face well even to do the right defense if

he's throwing a right te you're going to use your right hand and so you're going to leave that exposed I mean It's Tricky for sure but it's wicked look at how it worked I mean my God that's crazy and he didn't not See that comment uh I I'll throw that up next fight let's go I will let's go so um the next fight is not officially announced but you believe it'll be Cheeto I want it to be Cheeto I called that before the fight once they announced that well Cheeto was supposed to fight Henry on

my card so I was like I want the winner of that I want cheet over I want the winner of that if I go out there and do what I do against al Joe um Henry pulled out Pedro stepped up and I was like well if Cheeto wins it makes sense you know so that's that's what I want P Yan been on the Shelf he's just F got announced s Yong oh when's that uh I think that's sooner than later actually but that's [ __ ] Peter Cuz song's an like song a problem that was

another great fight with we went to see the San Haagen songong fight at the Apex which is incredible have you gone to just the Apex just to watch fight we watched the Contender series there ones it was [ __ ] cool I was thinking about flying out last weekend for phiv versus gam I was like I want see that one that was at that was at the Apex which it's the best place to see fights man I hate the small cage it it makes I hate it big difference right it's so I'm I'm I I'll

probably never well I guess it's at the Apex I'll never fight in a small cage again I just it's so it's not it doesn't help my style I like being able to move Around as much as possible here's why I'm confused why why have a small cage when you own the arena like they had a small cage back when we used to do the Pearl at the Palms because it was a smaller place to put the stage so they oh we'll just make the cage what is it like 30% smaller something 44 or something like

that almost yeah it's like it's damn near 50% it's and it feels like it it [ __ ] feels like it I remember when Cory Fought Al Jo in the small cage um and then I brought I said something about not wanting to fight in the small cage and I don't think Cory should either there because of style and then Cory's like oh that's just your insecurity I'm like dude you got [ __ ] choked out in 14 seconds Alo yeah there it is 44 yeah I think they said the lighting wasn't set up they

didn't put the right lights in for the big cage when I asked hey guess what you're the UFC Z building guess what you guys [ __ ] for no reason decided to build your own Arena I'm getting a [ __ ] fullsize octagon I'm building a warehouse on my property right now I'm getting a fulls siiz octagon and because I mean at Tim's gym at the MMA lab pretty much any gym you go to they all have smaller gyms our smaller cages in there and just even sparring it's like just it's just different it's like

playing if you're going to be in the NBA And you're playing half court yeah it's a different well I've been advocating for no cage for a long time I would be unbeatable no beat me there was this uh Russian promotion that we were just watching from back in the day with um e v chanin and he was fighting some dude and it was just this big round plat form Jesus and it was just flat and there was no and you see everything that's sweet every the the [ __ ] eyesight like there's not a bad

ey line in the house Cuz everybody's seeing the fight there's no poles that are blocking the way sometimes what was that called what promotion was that I don't know this is in the 9s Power Man 1996 Mr way what the [ __ ] yeah show it show it so you can see what it looked like Jamie It's pretty dope and that's my dream my dream is no cage because I think the cage is just too many elements there's too much going on so look at this so there's just like a little bar Barrier on the

outside this is only one of them that they did oh yeah that's only one that they did another one that they did was like completely flat oh eagar was a [ __ ] animal dude that's when he was smaller 5'8 heavyweight no way 5'8 heavyweight Jesus TKO Mark Kerr as a 58 heavyweight jesz oh yeah see the cage is like that's that's that's isn't that way better and look how much size you would have to move around obviously you wouldn't have That b [ __ ] floor that floor looks like the moment you sweat you're

you're tearing an ACL that floor looks terrible God that floor sucks it does it sucks so bad it's it's loose it's everything I hate when I go to a Jiu-Jitsu gym and they have like homemade Matts so they have like the loose stuff like sag mat like what do you do you guys hate grip like do you guys do you guys hate like foot positioning and like slipping around on all that [ __ ] yeah no cage Would change d a lot of wrestlers like I feel like the only chance people I could get taken

down in the open but I feel like it's going to be a lot harder than to push me up against the cage and I mean that's what Al's 100% goal was Push Me Up Against the Cage take me down work from there but if there's no [ __ ] cage exactly what's your [ __ ] game plan also how much fewer clinches would there be yeah it would be a huge Factor Because how many clinches take place in that weird danger zone when you're right up against the cage like just grab this [ __ ]

it's just there's so many moments where guys are like what you know they're trying to reset and they go in for the clinch that [ __ ] would not be available if there's no cage if you have this big ass basketball siiz Circle in the middle of an arena and that's where the guys are fighting it would be incredible it'd be incredible it's Really the way to do it yeah something about the cage makes it like bad ass I don't know what it is yeah B bulls and glitter seal Affliction shirts the dragon [ __

] a pitbull in the ass with J Japanese lettering the old school real gangster [ __ ] I used to love those shirts yeah fighting in Japan would be [ __ ] crazy yeah figh um fighting in Japan um if you're like a world champion that's that's like a Mecca place right you know like if you're if you want to Fight in mass and Square Garden but fighting in Tokyo as a martial artist that would be crazy saitama superar Arena right oh my God I wonder if UFC's never done that right we did an arena

in Japan I commentated that it was uh in Tokyo a few years back it's amazing they're so they're so knowledgeable and they're also they applaud when things happen like when someone passes the guard starts applauding yeah get it a little Bit I wonder why uh Dana or any of them haven't looked into yellow cards where your purse gets taken from you well the problem with that is it's so subjective right like let's look at this uh Valentina shevchenko Alexa Gro rematch where one judge scores the final round a pivotal fight round it's like that's what

makes the fight one judge scores a 108 no one agrees with him literally no one agrees with him like what the [ __ ] cuz if he didn't score a 108 and he just scored a 10 then Valen I went back and watched it just once but I was kind of surfing on my phone I thought Gro won three out of the five rounds but I also like I said I was surfing a little bit on my phone yeah it's hard it's hard to casually watch a fight yeah you got to [ __ ] yeah

I like watching fights with like Eddie Bravo taught me how to do this cuz Eddie Bravo at one point in time was uh doing the uh Max ke not Max Kellerman who's That dude that Letterman that does it on Harold Letterman used do it on HBO fights where in between round I gave that round to Davis 108 and this is and he would give like his explanation for what he thought so he was basically like an independent scorekeeper so Eddie would do that and he we would it was like we did it for a few

UFC's where he would come in and he would talk about like we're going to Eddie Bravo with you know what he thinks happened score-wise And he would take a piece of paper and he would have two sides like one side would be this guy one side would be that guy and he would write on the on the lines like kicks punches takedowns power like power shots he had like I forget all of his criteria so as he's watching the fight he's writing things so it's not just going on memory I think he got him more

and he also had access to whatever stats we had at the time although I don't think we had the kind Of stats you have now you're now you're getting constantly updated on you know significant strikes what is a significant stri that was a weird one in Izzy and Strickland right because they were showing that that you know that there was one point where Izzy had landed more significant strikes I'm like but to where like what yeah is a significant strike is like a leg kick that gets checked are you calling that a significant strike like

what is if a guy Lifts his leg up and the yeah he did get kicked hard but like what is here's Eddie Bravo it's Randy Silva or Tim Silva and Randy cotor ground and action and even though Tim lard some good elbows from off his back still another 10 n round for Randy Couture two I think that was a good thing to do it was also it's also a good thing to put the [ __ ] the the actual judges on blast I agree because like when DC and I are doing commentary you can't do

commentary And score a fight you can kind of like have an idea but you're trying to be entertaining you're trying to like give life to the to what's happening and you're just reacting like oh sh you want to scream and swear and you just I'm doing my best to not but you can't do you should be quiet just quiet and thinking about it and you should also have access to replays do you think you should be in like that close or should You be on a monitor where you see different angles in a bu in

a room like this monitors now they didn't used to have monitors which is crazy the refs stand in there sometimes or the pole not a poll if you're a judge or but I don't think they listen though like I don't think they listen to commentary it's probably good which is probably good because commentary could definitely influence it like it's someone DC trains with and It's so crazy though if you're yeah if you're a judge and you never felt a checked kick cuz when I fought Pedro I swear like I felt his foot land on my

shin and like I felt I felt like I was [ __ ] up when he was kicking me mhm and then the judges obviously gave him the first round he didn't punch me in the face once I had more significant strikes but he was Landing leg kicks but I was checking them I feel like I [ __ ] his feet up from checking kicks and they Gave him the round which but it's just like they've probably never checked a kick or threw a kick in their life so it doesn't but these guys are making this

such an important decision Yeah Yeah Chris leben uh he's making his Nevada judging debut that' be interesting I think he already did right already been a referee he's been a referee for quite a while now he's doing did he make his last fight or is he going to no he did yeah last weekend oh okay on the fight Card damn that's probably a lot of pressure on him everyone's looked at it like well how'd you score it how'd you score it right yeah man there's some crazy stories about lean back in the day oh he's

a wild man just getting [ __ ] up the night before fights really yeah yeah being drunk at the at the uh Casino the slots and stuff Robert Falls would tell me and then go out and win he could crack though [ __ ] yeah he could crack remember when he knocked out Vanderlay remember that fight holy [ __ ] Chris leben Had A Hammer of the left hand I mean a hammer especially when he was hurt yeah there's some guys that just [ __ ] have just some kind of stupid [ __ ] power

you know there's some Paul Daly dudes out there they just he's fun to watch He's interesting cuz he's a Orthodox left-handed right yes y so that's kind he throws a [ __ ] crazy hand that's fun to watch yeah he's I hope Michael Venom paage comes to UFC I Know there's a lot of talk I believe they're going to get that that would be make that division so interesting oh yeah he's he's a handful he's so difficult cuz like St and I always said that that that was going to be the next that's going to

be the next factor in MMA is these Point karate guys like if one of these Point karate guys really figures out everything else they they become dedicated to become an actual MMA fighter that's thing that they do yeah It's so different it's so hard to deal with well that's going to be interesting Stephen Thompson versus uh um shovot shot that's going to be fun to watch that is going to be fun to watch but shovot can grapple too shot's a lot he's that [ __ ] could do everything I watched a documentary on him recently

like his come up from when he turned Pro like the second he turned Pro he was fighting like good good guys first price second third he didn't have any easy Fights yeah he was was fighting [ __ ] Killers he's interesting man I wonder how many people the UFC's already I mean I don't know if they can be in talks but cuz Bellator is going away right yeah well they're going to merge with the pfl allegedly apparently I read some thing from shry onefc apparently they offered them Bellator too and they were at point one

point considering it I guess but Dana White was like what are you what do you Get I saw that right like what do you get the thing is is right here's the thing there's no pay-per-view yeah like maybe they can develop a pay-per-view model but you need stars and the UFC has always had Stars the UFC is always going to have pay-per-views and we can't wait to watch them it's not like convincing someone you know like this this fight like Yuri Pro HOSA Alex paja Jon Jones and Stevie take my money even that December card

That's coming together [ __ ] Tony Ferguson Patty [ __ ] um I think that's stepen Thompson rockn Leon Edwards Covington Brandon Roy valal versus panto oh that's right that's on that card too yeah oh my God man Tony Ferg though six fight losing streak six I know crazy I feel like this a lose lose for Patty cuz even if he wins it's like Tony's [ __ ] still dangerous but he's not going to get the credit you know Tony looked good in his last fight he looked good I mean He didn't look like the

Tony of old who did he fight again um didn't he fight Bobby green yeah that's right yep yeah and Bobby Green's a [ __ ] well even Tony versus Michael Chandler Tony wasn't looking too bad till he ate that [ __ ] heel or that go back to that card Jamie please that look at that v l vente luk versus I Machado Garry's a crazy fight and they trained at the same gym so I wonder how much they sparred oh they probably sparred a ton yeah God Sparring and fighting though are so [ __ ]

different at least for me I feel like cuz when I Spar it's like I crack people and I hurt them and it changes the fight but in sparring it's like I'm not necessarily trying to [ __ ] fcking crack you so it's like sparring is going to play out way different than if it was a fight right and depends how you Spar though but I feel like it's just such different sport for KO artists for sure yeah for KO artists but for like volume Guys yeah that's probably pretty true it's probably super similar sparring like

that's where you get that's where I get injured like for the most part just sparring it's not usually too bad like it's I kicked someone's [ __ ] elbow last six weeks before my last fight and my [ __ ] left toe I have a turf toe and it still [ __ ] hurts just from kicking an elbows hard as because I'll throw TS and body shots as hard as you can and sparring like you're going to be All right so I whipped a [ __ ] tee and landed on an elbow and I [

__ ] swear my foot my toe turned the other way it didn't but that [ __ ] still hurts today you remember Jon Jones versus CH son he still has to tape his toes I believe it he has to tape his big toes to his little toe just to hold it in place while he [ __ ] people yeah that sounds [ __ ] funny it's funny I I got to tape my toes before I [ __ ] you up but he has to otherwise it's just like it's so torn apart that I guess it

just doesn't hold anymore brutal that was the first fight you didn't wrap your ankles against aljo right we weren't allowed to in Boston but yeah that was I didn't wrap him I didn't feel like I needed to either like I felt my [ __ ] was good but usually I like to get a little little [ __ ] and it probably gives him grip on his single legs and stuff yeah you yeah before the Fight like hey let's not even give that even that little bit cuz wrestling like I'll I'll grapple or wrestle with really

[ __ ] high level wrestlers we we have so many [ __ ] good guys we train with get in on a single leg a limp leg out but there wrestlers are used to be unable to you know once someone cried a limp lag or use that shoe to kind of hold on mhm and fighting they just I mean unless you have your ankles wrapped who who was the fight I think it was luk Versus R in between rounds like took off his ankle wraps is that did that happen we I I think yeah I

think that was right before we fought Al joke too uh took off the ankle wraps cuz he was using as a little grip even that little tiny it makes a difference it makes a difference you know like Eddie Bravo used to always uh say like you wear as much as you can on your legs it'll make your guard more dangerous like in Jiu-Jitsu tournaments Like and in fighting like Frank Mir used to try to wear these long ass knee sleeves like if you could wear long knee sleeves and shorts another a couple guys did George

soplos did that he basically almost had pants on like he had knee sleeves and then above the knee sleeves he had like tights where the shorts were it's like so there's so much friction and that would Aid you and so if you've got that [ __ ] on your ankles for sure that's going to Aid a guy grabbing your Ankl even that minor adjust especially [ __ ] I was worried about that fight I was like this [ __ ] usually I mean even against like Peter Yan I was like okay it's [ __ ]

I could beat this dude but Alo I knew I could beat aljo too but I was like this dude's [ __ ] dangerous like he's [ __ ] especially the tear he's been on just beat Henry cejudo so the dude's [ __ ] in his prime like this [ __ ] is dangerous and did Choke to choke San Haagen out the way he did oh that was that was one of my like when you think about fights going good or bad one of the thinking about bad especially when you've seen it happen like you know

he can do that he just he's did it recently yeah so I'm like I just don't want to get embarrassed and just be that guy [ __ ] I just don't Cory's got to live with that forever yeah and that sucks yeah I mean he's Pro I mean obviously we all know how good is And like that probably wouldn't happen again but it doesn't matter if it would or wouldn't happen again it [ __ ] happened I think sometimes when things like that happen it just changes your approach to fighting and steals your mind and

I think that's what it did with him and he just became way better the Cory sandhagen that we think of now like the guy wheel kicked Marlon Marise like that's a different Corey Frankie edger Frankie edger he the Nast he's an animal Now he's a [ __ ] animal he's just he flows in there MH you know but like that fire like it's crazy like Marlon Mar dude at one point in time Marlon Mar was the [ __ ] for like this long it's all you get sometimes he was so big for the division and

[ __ ] super jacked and his striking was nasty remember when he knocked out Alo with that switch kick yeah oh his left high kick off the switch was beautiful Alo shot into his knee that's right yeah he shot same can Find that Jamie you know what's funny is I was actually at that fight and I was I don't know where I was at in my career but I think I was only one fight in maybe but I was at that fight and watched that and I hadn't really been to fights before and I was

like and I was just watching in the stands as like just a normal [ __ ] wasn't sitting in the UFC section I was just and I was like oh [ __ ] I thought it he was out for 5 10 mil it was scary that's always the scary Ones right when someone's running in and then the other guy catches him with a knee or a kick like like [ __ ] Cyborg and Michael Venom Paige that's gross oh that was the worst one ever makes that makes you question want like do I still want

to do this don't know what we're talking about Michael Venom Paige we were just talking about earlier who's just so phenomenal caught this guy cyborg not cyborg that you think of like Chris cyborg but her husband is also Cyborg which must have been a [ __ ] confusing household oh yeah godamn and he crushed his skull so his with that like him moving in and that knee Landing perfectly literally fractured the the front of his skull and they had to have it look he's got a dent in his skull look hiso look how a shattered

it was that's insane that looks like a video game type [ __ ] insane now Al also what does that do to your brain yeah what's going on in there and he was like I'll Be back and everybody's like dude hang on I think that might be a rap yeah especially if you have kids like I know once I had a baby I'm like you think a little bit different it's like okay well that's why you can't do iasa not yet think of everybody as you [ __ ] Yeah just chew ater all and punch

people I've never I've never done well I think I might have done adal once but I'm like I don't really need yeah yeah exactly Tim always tries to get me Doing it yeah oh my God he went right into that that was a crazy one yeah and now he he went on like a [ __ ] eight fight losing streak too didn't he yeah you know what happened Henry Henry got him in that second round hen that is an go to the first round see if you can find Marlon Mar versus Henry cejudo round one

just find the fight and we'll watch the so the first round Marlin is [ __ ] Henry's legs up yeah I mean he's just looks incredible he looks like a World champion Mo TIE fighter yeah and then Henry made the adjustments and Gass the [ __ ] out yeah but dude he looks so good it's just Marlin couldn't keep up the pace and I often wondered I wonder how much of it had to to do with Marlin cutting weight cuz he was so big yeah like I ne like that guy never looked like 135 pounder

he always looked like a featherweight God he's just so short though for the division two for bantamweight even I mean I guess not Short for the division but he's only I mean Henry's like [ __ ] what 53 yeah Henry's so fun I feel like Henry's Obviously good as [ __ ] but I feel like he thinks he's a little bit better than he is when he was trying to teach khabib how to [ __ ] throw kicks and remember that video yeah I've never seen that he was trying to teach khabib something and and

he was like Landing a kick with his foot on khabib's knee and Habib is like what are you doing here it Was just funny but yeah I remember watching this fight because I didn't know if I was going to fight Henry or Alo I was kind of preparing for both so I was watching I remember watching this fight back thinking like [ __ ] he made some good adjustments there was a good leg kick by Henry there but Marlin caught him with some great couns like look at that right there just like look at that

counter left and then the right hand over the Top the left body kick sharp and then starting to put really put it on Henry when these exchanges like every one of these exchanges he's the guy who's getting off the hardest shot and that [ __ ] switch kick he does is so pretty that switch kick off the left leg if you got a fast one like an Edson Barbosa one it's such a dangerous weapon I never saw anybody throw it faster than Bara yeah that dude's [ __ ] slick he's at 45 now right is

that weird it is weird weird Yeah I don't like when people go down like that it's hard it's going to be it's like Frankie when he went down later in his career BJ went down it's just like Cub Swanson tried to go 35 for one fight too yeah it just crushes you and especially as you get older I think it's even more punishing and more difficult to come back 24 hours after such a brutal weight cut and fight those weight cuts are not [ __ ] good for remember not long not long ago remember The

commissions would start at 24 hours before the event would start yeah that was right before I got in the UFC I'm so [ __ ] glad they changed that and we could weigh in at 9:00 a.m. it's a game changer yeah it's a Well really what they should figure out how to do is not have weight cutting we really would the best thing to do would be to have more weight classes and to have just just eliminate that whole [ __ ] it's it's crazy I wonder what Alo would fight at Then because like we

were talking about earlier that [ __ ] get gets up to 170 lb I bet he'd fight at 165 16 that's crazy yeah that's what I think you would fight at I think that actual 165lb guys yeah look I mean I'm not disparaging anybody doing it cuz it's part of the sport but it's sanction cheating mhm yeah that's what it is you're not really 135 lbs like I'll just that 135 PBS I do find the I do find advantages in there cuz I know I'm doing It right I know I'm doing it as scientific as

healthy as possible and as disciplined as I possibly can where I know other guys aren't like I don't think aljo did his weight cut better than I did and the rehydration I have the team around me to [ __ ] make sure we're doing it perfect to where I don't think a lot of Fighters are they're just doing it I know how to make weight I'm going to [ __ ] get it off and I'm going to [ __ ] just how much of a relief is it for you when that's over the Camp's over

the fight's over then you just F how long do you just eat whatever the [ __ ] you want um well yeah in Camp we just had Terry Black's Barbecue yeah yeah no I definitely especially when I'm traveling it's not like if we're traveling I'll get a cheeseburger I'll [ __ ] and you know not be super disciplined but when I go back home I try to still keep it keep it clean like We'll still eat have something good for dinner but right now I'm dealing with this little this little back injury and I'm like

I know if I eat the worse I eat the longer it's going to take to heal so I've been trying to like this last week I I did like a 24-hour fast like I don't need to eat I'm not really working out um and then if I did eat we were eating really clean so but after a fight a couple weeks I just don't give a [ __ ] but it's still not like Snickers and [ __ ] Skittles and [ __ ] like that um we you see guys like Patty who you know saying

that like he's kind of really developed an eating disorder because it's like the cut it so hard that after it's all off all he wants to do is eat whatever the [ __ ] he wants and drink yeah even when you're full it's like but I don't have to make weight so you mentally trick yourself and it's it there's definitely something there like you definitely you got a crash diet 30 Lbs in 8 weeks you got to be so strict and you got to train twice a day so you're starving go into these sessions so

you for sure cause eating disorder 100% yeah yeah it only makes sense it only makes sense I mean cuz it's like how much like wrestlers too especially like how much of your time is fixated on losing weight it's like a big part we had Kurt Angle on which is an amazing podcast cuz did you listen to it yeah when he was talking about how he weighed 199 PBS and he didn't want to cut weight to make 198 so he just wrestled heavyweight he's like I think I could beat him anyway and I like what an

animal so he's like but plus I ate whatever I wanted I trained however I wanted I was always recovering there's something to that cuz like there was a video of him beating this dude who was 270 lbs in a in a wrestling match yeah what a stud yeah [ __ ] yeah what a stud I don't need to lose a pound not even a Pound most people like I can lose a pound how does it lose a pound that last Camp about two and a half no probably three weeks out I had this some meat

that did not sit well with my stomach I had diarrhea bad for like 10 days to the point where I was getting a little worried I'm like okay cuz I was looking to step up and it's like You' had if you have diarrhea for like more than 2 3 days or whatever it's like probably got a parasite or some [ __ ] for 10 days Every single night I would wake up two to three times right when I woke up in the morning I have to sh [ __ ] [ __ ] my brains out

it was and but my weight came down real fast so that I was like well I guess that's a benefit cuz I was like 155 156 and then by the end of those 10 days I was walking around like2 I was like well that worked out but that sucked remember that [ __ ] it's crazy for that camp too because usually we'd be working a lot on the wall a lot of Different standups a lot on our guard developing the guardal plotas and stuff instead of giving up your back but we literally didn't get to

Grapple zero five weeks out six weeks out to the day from the fight but yeah it could have been beneficial cuz we were doing a lot of mths I was just hitting Ms hitting Ms Shadow boxing boxing focusing on not getting grabbed and what did you have it in your head saying if I get grabbed I'm dead it's life well I was going into That fight when I was 100% healthy six we before the fight got announced like it's life or death if he grabs me not because I don't think I can grapple but that's

the mindset I want because that's really going to make it to where I'm not going to let and if he does grab me I'm going to do everything I'm [ __ ] capable of that's why I try to I mean I feel like I got out of that so fast like the longer we're here the better it is for him but yeah so we went into that Fight life or death if he grabs me and then when I got that injury I was like it's just that times [ __ ] 10 I cannot let this

[ __ ] touch me and so what was the extent of had a muscle strain in between my ribs and I couldn't even get into like a light clinch I don't know it [ __ ] just yeah it hurts so bad I haven't even tried to Grapple since the fight yet too cuz I'm dealing with this little back injury right now so but I'm hoping by now it should be Good the muscle strains are [ __ ] the ones in between the riv are so hard and sometimes people tear the cartilage as well did you

get an MRI I did get an MRI I didn't tear anything that I remember I think it was just a muscle strain but like we gave it a couple weeks to say all right let's just see if it'll heal in a couple weeks and then try to Grapple again try to Grapple in just the littlest kind of together movement couldn't do it which sucked cuz that was The fight I had the most mental demons going in cuz I was like I'd like to be able to Grapple you know I'd like to be able to [

__ ] grapple going because even all fight week I told the whole team like I don't want to do anything to where I feel this cuz I'm in my mind it's fixed I'm good I haven't heard it in a couple weeks I convinced myself that it was 100% fine and uh so I'll fight week we didn't even clinch once no gra no zero Exchanges um I like a Michael Jordan type athlete though just to have that kind of pressure going against this guy who's the best on the [ __ ] planet and just being in

the moment and not woring about that I mean [ __ ] impressive yeah well the result was amazing that was probably one of the prettiest right hands I've ever seen in my life floating back too I mean it's literally like Muhammad Ali Sunny Liston you know yeah steps back away bam that was crazy and The TD Garden too that was cool Boston that was that was wild cuz that was my first main event and every time I fought I always felt like it like I was it was a big deal on the card like the

sugar show was there but when I when we were in Boston that Arena was 99% sha 1% Alo if if that like the [ __ ] you Alo chants were louder than like them cheering me on it was ins I felt bad at the at some point I like oh God isn't it crazy that it's all because of the way he won the Title by disqualification which is not his fault at all yeah not his fault at all other than that everybody likes it's crazy that no one had any problem with him up until that

fight like everybody loved aljo when he choked out San Haagen everybody loved aljo like aljo was the [ __ ] man and then he gets fouled yeah and legitimately got fouled and his neck was [ __ ] up before he went into that fight he's had a [ __ ] up he has disc replacement in his neck so he's got an Artificial disc in his neck because of an injury that he had and then P Yan hits him with that [ __ ] knee to the head on the ground it's crazy how that knee changed

so many people like my career I F I ended up fighting Peter instead of Peter being champ and just like it's crazy how that one mistake Peter made and now he's on a [ __ ] three-fight losing streak four maybe crazy D fight is not that's not a gimme it's going to be a sick [ __ ] F crack He's he get keeps getting better too song keeps young right 24 25 got robbed recently in California oh yeah I saw that saw him talk about it scary [ __ ] dude at a gas station God

that if only those guys knew I mean I guess if you got a gun like no doesn't much he can do but not much you can do we saw we saw this weekend that one comedian died yeah I didn't didn't see that is comedians in in depression is that a pretty common thing oh yeah for sure I Didn't know this guy but uh everybody at the club last night was so sad a lot of uh he was uh my friend David Lucas's opening act and a lot of people knew him it was a bummer I

did not know him but he he took his own life apparently yeah that's crazy yeah it's like there's a lot of the re reasons why people want to do comedy is because they want they they want a moment in their life where it's fun and if they can make other people laugh so at least for that moment it Would be fun like this is guy who one of the greatest of all time Richard Jenny he took his own life shot himself in the bathtub then uh he didn't die they had to take him to the

hospital died at the hospital yeah um but he was one of the best comedians ever and one just hated life was so depressed just it just the fact that everybody all the comics worshiped him like when he was in the room everybody would come in and watch Jenny like oh my God Jenny's On stage let's go watch Jenny he was so good he did this one club uh in Long Island called Eastside comedy club and uh this guy Peter who was the host we were all sitting around after the show and uh Peter was depressed

I why depressed he goes he did four different hours he goes he did two different hours on Friday and two different hours on Saturday and just destroyed and you would think a guy who's that good at the top of his game just killing it like the Guy's on the top of the world he's probably so happy everybody loves him meanwhile God kills himself yeah I was watching this Deion Sanders little documentary on YouTube and he tried to kill himself after like winning the Super Bowl wow yeah tried to drive his car off a clip like

oh my God yeah that was CRA I didn't really know much about Deion Sanders prime time but that dude [ __ ] played in the MLB and NFL at the same time in the same seasons he was Signing like one-off contracts to go play with with the [ __ ] teams then he'd fly in a helicopter to the football game that was a [ __ ] I didn't realize how good of an athlete he was imagine a guy like that taking up MMA yeah you know cuz there like calibers of athletes that I think just

automatically go into the NFL or the NBA or the you know they go where the real money is yeah you know they don't have that Desire to fight some people just have this desire to fight yeah and some guys are just they're just competitors and but if you can get one of those like super Elite NFL running back guys there's there's guys out there that are freaks yeah yeah I wonder what Dion Wade like he probably wasn't like he didn't look he doesn't look huge yeah he would have been but fighting you just got to

there's something just different than competing in NFL I mean I don't know There's some crazy [ __ ] that compete in the NFL R Lewis those guys [ __ ] take your head off yeah NFL that was my first love my first Dream my first like that's what I wanted until I realized I'm just a little [ __ ] that isn't happening but I wanted to be I wanted to run out every Sunday with the boys and like wow but damn it maybe maybe another life it's weird with those H those people that get those

High highs like not many people experience the Depression that comes after it how to deal with it what goes up comes down so so even after the fights try not to like [ __ ] go get too excited cuz I know it's like just try to kind of live that around that zero like right around we're just balanced yeah just stay calm just kind of stay there but I mean yeah I know it is hard cuz those highs all fight week everyone wants to [ __ ] talk to you you're the [ __ ] man

then you win and then it's like the next week You're just kind of at home just like sitting around it's like whoa it is weird but then the plunges and stuff help yeah having to [ __ ] learning how to deal with that stuff and still working out having to work out it's crazy cuz I haven't worked out really much since the last fight just trying to heal everything up prepare prepare for you know kill next year you saying the plunges mentally the plunges help you mentally I think so for sure cold plunge Yeah I

think mentally I don't know what it is about it but I think what it is just not wanting to do it and then [ __ ] doing it and getting out there's something about that and then the the physical benefits and all that [ __ ] but the plunges definitely [ __ ] help me mentally just stay [ __ ] kind of grounded yeah I mean the happiness you get from training [ __ ] hard and then doing the plunge knowing it's good for you and how good it makes you feel it's Like there's just

something about it dude yeah yeah and it just Rings all the [ __ ] out of your brain yeah just all the dumb [ __ ] that's in there that like you would just let bounce around if you didn't work out or you didn't cold plunge or something like that I feel like the morning routines too like I can I notice cuz right after the fights I'm my discipline of cuz I'm just like all out 100% discipline I'm going to do what I need to do to be perform that night But right after the fight

the next week or two I'm like I'm going to just [ __ ] kind of just maybe lay in bed a little bit longer do it but once you get back to my morning routine where I got my red light my pmf machine my cold plunge um all that stuff and I just do that I go in there for like 30 minutes in the morning just [ __ ] prepare for the day you ever you ever use those pmf machines no what is it [ __ ] pulse Electric magnetic field is that what It's called

yeah it's like two mats I mean I I saw it on Tony Robbins he was waking it up one day did a mat and it covers and it pulses all these like electrical through you boom boom boom gets the cells moving and stuff good for inflammation in the body I [ __ ] love it you feel the difference I [ __ ] love it I really do I I like it do you like the experience of just doing it or do you like the benefits I like the way it feels too um feel and I

do feel like It does feel kind of cool but it's it's I like the I feel like there's benefits I feel like the the cells especially if you read the benefits and then you really kind of just tell yourself like okay this is what this is what's happening Scotty from uh Mexico told us about it and told us how good it was SC Nelson yeah with inflammation stuff so we looked into it we got some pretty high powerered machines but we were hanging out with Dana a couple weeks ago And just both you guys just

have such like this good high energy it's like motivating to be around for sure [ __ ] pretty badass especially seen you kill on stage and then even before like having that good energy and you already did a show then you're in the Green Room [ __ ] just Fe like it's you you don't see many guys even younger than you or our age that have that energy it's [ __ ] yeah it's powerful to be around like being around Dana too just [ __ ] He's Health fires you up he's healthy one of the

things that I always tell Comics is because a lot of comics they they eat poorly they don't exercise they're lazy I always tell them like you have more energy like your body is your vehicle for carrying you through life I it's not a vanity thing like it could be a vanity thing but don't think about it that way think about it like you can actually soup up your race car you're you're you're you want something that Can do things that other ones can't like have the energy to do two shows easy yeah there's no problem

I did four shows last night Jes two shows in the little room so I did two two of those improvised shows the bottom of the barrel shows and then I did two hours in the big room damn that's [ __ ] sweet I could see how just being in that green room like crave that every night just or every at least couple times a week just [ __ ] going in there bullshitting with The guys watching some comedy I that was so fun to be around well I was telling sugar I'm like cuz how old

are you now 56 56 right bro that's going to be us when we're 56 healthy re revving up ready to [ __ ] go the canary and the coal mine kids I'm hoping I'm hoping when I'm 56 I'm [ __ ] revving up like that well when you're 56 you won't be fighting nope so when you're 56 you could take testosterone and tides and that's the big thing the big thing is People don't want to do that because they think it's cheating look listen you don't have much time this life goes by really quick I

was your age you know when I came to Hollywood know and it just it seemed like almost like yesterday just [ __ ] goes by all of a sudden you're I mean obviously doesn't because when you look back at those memories and who you used to be it's it's interesting to compare yourself but at the end of the day it it doesn't stop Every day comes whether you want it to or not you can't hit pause it doesn't exist so it just goes and goes and goes and if you [ __ ] slip and if

you if you you let it go if you don't do what you should do you have a life of regret that's what I'm trying to remind myself too I'm like I'm 28 right now I got in the UFC when I was 22 so it's like it's already been that long I basically have that time again until I'm probably going to retire and be done like and it went By so fast yeah and I need to make sure too right now especially because you get so many opportunities to go do things like to just keep reminding

myself what's the goal what's the goal what's the goal just to [ __ ] keep training and and for the next six seven years just be as [ __ ] good as I can be because I'm going to be [ __ ] 40 and going God damn it do you think you'll know when to stop do you think do you do you have like an idea in your head like Is it a number or is it when your body just doesn't feel it anymore I'm going to I would like to yeah I mean if all

goes well I think it if I'm healthy it's going to be hard if I'm healthy it would be hard to stop fighting but but why would you stop if you're healthy that's a good point I mean I mean I would I would want you to stop if I see performance slipping yeah there's something about uh there you know when you watch fights as much as I Watch fights and you've seen certain guys for long as I see I kind of have like a a it's almost like I there's there's I know what they do so

I see them and I have like a like a mold that I can put them in so like when I see guys moving different and I see guys slowing down and I see guys throwing one two and then not reacting on the counter shot and not throwing the counter kicks is his legs gone is his knees [ __ ] why is he Moving like I start to see it and you just they look kind of the same like the same guy but in my mind in the mold these things don't they don't fit anymore so

I okay there's been a change what about Izzy's last fight because I don't think he's necessarily he looked like that last fight he looked like he was stuck in the mud yeah but I don't know if he's we talked about that last night we talked about that last night who that might Have been an is this could be multiple issues it could be just a weird physical thing maybe he just woke up and he just didn't feel good which does happen it would suck a fat dick if that happened on a world title fight against

a guy who's been talking mad [ __ ] about you calling you a [ __ ] for China oh my God but but it can happen to people where you're just flat yeah i' be curious to see them come back I know also before we say any of that Sean Strickland looks so [ __ ] good it's I don't know if that was Izzy being flat I it might be that he underestimated him yeah Chris Curtis says like all the time people come in good ass kickboxers come in and Sean Strickland just frustrates them pressures

them so much doesn't let off the gas pedal defends all their hard shots and keeps pressing he says he makes a lot of guys look bad like that dude I think he's also got that front kick to the body off the left leg that People aren't talking about like that was so important it was so important because he's standing like this straight up and you don't know when it's coming and every now and then he's stabbing you in the gut and he doesn't throw a lot of kicks but he throws a very effective left front

kick and his [ __ ] checks are on the money yeah you could tell it Izzy like you he could you could almost hear it even on the TV like he'd land those stabbing kicks like [ __ ] and that [ __ ] spars like that so often that he's composed it's just another day it's another day he doesn't get tired in the fifth [ __ ] round he like I was watch his stomach in between rounds flat just standing there drinking water flat like like 50 60 beats a minute I'm like this is crazy

this guy's this guy's calm and relaxed in the fifth [ __ ] round of his first world title fight against one of the greatest of all time a guy who just dominated and had that Incredible speech yeah you know one time I want you to feel this one time in your life that was probably the coolest moment on for me ever when he knocked out P oh was crazy the arrows come on greatest celebration fired up greatest celebration that was good that was you made me want to cry for him like did you see DC

posted how many UFC's he headlined and it was [ __ ] insane within like five six years maybe that had a factor too maybe it's just an Overload factor maybe he takes six months off gets recharged well I was talking to UFC recently and we just [ __ ] and they're like Izzy's constantly same with vulcanos ask let me fight let me fight let me fight let me fight I asked him I I said you think he's going to want to chill for a little bit and they're like [ __ ] no [ __ ]

no I could call him tomorrow and say hey you want to find MSG and he'd say yes please like how much is his five round Training camps changing after the eighth one yeah do you still [ __ ] do what you did in the first one they go hard over there City kickboxing that is an amazing gym yeah Eugene seem cool [ __ ] [ __ ] man he's got to be up there with the greatest [ __ ] man and he's so calm and composed and rational the way he gives Corner advice the way

he talks even in the postf fight press conference when he talked about it you it's like he's so composed he's so Good there's a cool video when I fought Peter going into the from the first round going into the second round for Tim saying hey when you're Southpaw faint low throw that left hand over the top in the first minute into that you literally see it play bypl of what I did the cracked Peter boom and then the second round going to the third round Tim was like trust that knee up the middle it's there

and that's what [ __ ] cut Peter uh so corner corner Advice is [ __ ] huge and a lot of times you watch fights and you hear Corners like just talking to talk cuz they feel like they have to say something so they're just kind of just making [ __ ] up instead of like saying something that's [ __ ] truly going to be important not overt talking saying what you need to [ __ ] say then let the corner breathe I don't I'm not trying to listen to a [ __ ] you know

a bunch of [ __ ] tell me a couple things That I need to know and then let me get my [ __ ] heart rate down that's what Tim does a really good job of well you guys have such an amazing relationship because you were both there at the very beginning like when the when the two of you came in 5 years ago I'm like what a cool thing you guys have going on cuz Tim is so knowledgeable and so focused and also a great martial artist himself so he's watching all these aspects of

your training with with a in another Mind like an objective mind that's not experiencing it outside of it looking at all the aspects of what you need to do and because you guys syn together so well it's such a massive Advantage H I feel like I feel like it it truly is yeah when I see other coaches out there and Fighters I just feel like even if they're got a good relationships like we hang out every single [ __ ] day we podcast together we do everything together we'll go grab lunch hang out With our

girls together travel and do everything together train together and it's just I feel like there's like a chemistry there that a lot of fighter coaches don't have cuz we're we're like best friends too it's not a coach but yeah in the training room and we're hitting Ms sparring days it's like you know we turn that on and and it's it's good it must be awesome for you Tim because you took a giant risk in your life doing this dedicating yourself to One athlete you know and other athletes too but I mean you're you're it's like

a big thing man you did yeah I think I've just Lo like loved the sport and loved martial arts and all the different Arts so much and then getting to live with Robert fallace and seeing another guy who's so passionate about it and I miss that dude get to live with him and saw it like looked up to him so much I'm like I feel like I'm literally living my my my dream job I feel lucky awesome That's so awesome yeah you naturally were always cuz when we you were still fighting you you were you

were like still trying to get in the UFC you were in Bellator you went on The Ultimate Fighter but every time I had a fight coming up for like a couple weeks you'd kind of switch into coach mode like without us it just kind of naturally happened it was just wasn't really planned it was like all right now you're now you're in the corner now you're the Coach such a cool situation just happened it just literally [ __ ] happened and we he' hold mits for me and it it's it's [ __ ] wild yeah

again though it's like it doesn't matter how good of a coach you got like the athletes that can go in there be in the moment be calm and make it happen it's like that is so [ __ ] rare and I don't know where that came from with you but I remember seeing you when you're were 17 years old kickboxing in the cage and you Looked comfortable in there like you were just having fun and then I saw him when he when I was 18 I saw him fight this wrestler still just having fun in

there and that's when I invited him down and every single fight like even you said against aljo like how are your nerves or Peter Y and ababi who butchers people he Fu he doesn't just beat people he [ __ ] Cuts them and beats the [ __ ] out of them and you were just stone cold in the locker room it's crazy 2 when we Were coming up it was $330 a month rent a piece we had the shitty apartment just [ __ ] those memories were so crazy they're so vivid too and it was

so much fun we just stayed in the shitty apartment I had never lived with anybody other than my parents so he had like hey dude do your [ __ ] dishes yeah I'm like oh yeah yeah didn't know how to do laundry my mom did all that [ __ ] for me so it's like there that's crazy looking crazy climb yeah it has been it's it's So hard in the beginning cuz you're not sure if it's going to work out it's weird I was so [ __ ] positive even telling him when I was 18

19 years old when I moved down I said I'm going to be the big like I'm going to be in the UFC I'm gonna be a [ __ ] Superstar and he would be like I have I I would just think this kid has no [ __ ] idea how good people are wait till he feels how I was delusional for sure do you think it's good to be delusional I do You have I think a little bit of delusion is is an important uh ingredient in the recipe of success because I was I mean

I might have been too delusion but I also got very humbled a lot too like I would get humbled and I would be like God this is not what but then for whatever reason i' would come back to me like no I'm G to be I'm going to be [ __ ] World Champ I'm going to be the one of the biggest stars in the UFC but I remember yeah telling him that Even like when I first moved down and uh but yeah well I remember when I first met you when we first started talking

I couldn't believe you didn't have a background of traditional martial arts yeah cuz you throw kicks so well I was like he looks like a karate guy like that was assuming you had a like you maybe when you were kick kid you did Karate or Taekwondo basketball football baseball soccer all every different sport all year round for since I was Probably five six years old just constantly being an athlete doing athletic stuff I feel like helped develop my I I do think too some people just have this um this ability to fight I just understand

fighting like distance faints that stuff came so natural to me like it just like when I first started fighting I was fainting I didn't know what I was fainting I was just fighting and I was just I just happened so [ __ ] natural I think some people just Have that that ability yeah well I I definitely think the background and athletic helps yeah but it doesn't make a fighter no the fighter thing is the like some guys can do it and some guys can't do it and it's and you can't predict it and some

guys can do it up until like level eight or level nine like the Marlon Mar guys they get real close M but for whatever reason in those moments those chaotic moments they can't keep it together [ __ ] yeah I mean I Still got to go out there and prove it I think once you become champ it's like are you champed till you you got to defend the belt you got to defend the [ __ ] belt yeah so I'm I'm looking forward to that I I really really did truly want to fight in December

like when I called out Cheeto in December um but then they talked to UFC and they kind of already had they kind of already had they were trying to get Kobe Leon together and They don't they didn't I asked them they they want me to Main Event my own show which I think's [ __ ] dope I'm down with that so yeah a good a good litmus test too and see what those numbers are cuz Cheeto is pretty famous too that's a big fight yeah I'm really hoping they [ __ ] just say just let's

[ __ ] do it what do you think that would be for like when I I I'm ready I mean you can't be December so what is the next big card after that I say I think UFC 300s in April I would say I want I mean that would be a sweet card to be on but again they're not going to where are they doing that Vegas kind of probably yeah yeah so I'm I'm going to guess before that before UFC 300 cuz they're not going to put they'll probably do something like they're doing with

John like have a super card but only have to pay out you know one Champion so so I'm assuming they'll pra do something like that it's funny that you think about That WAYZ until you said that I never considered it oh yeah that other fight neither one of those guys is a current world champion even though it's for the title they don't get a piece of the pay-per-view I've been I've been thinking I've been having like a business kind of mindset getting into fighting early early on like thinking about numbers and brand deals and and

when I get to this position what I'm going to ask for at the UFC and because I go and sit down with Hunter and and do our own uh negotiations and stuff and it's fun I enjoy that aspect of fighting I enjoy the business side of it to where a lot of Fighters don't like here I'll just pay someone to [ __ ] do it do it for me but I've always been excited about that I've always wanted to be into the entrepreneur type stuff well that's great that you enjoy it cuz for some Fighters

it's like a labor you know and they don't do it but if you're excited About it that's awesome cuz that's definitely a smart thing and you know just the ability to promote just promoting fights like that is such a factor there's so many guys that are really talented but for whatever reason the Public's not captivated by them and so they just never qu might hit their potential in terms of like Revenue yeah for sure I mean it's crazy now with all the social media guys fighting now and making bank and it's their first second Third

fight PA the [ __ ] man like what he's done is pretty amazing so is that Dylan Dan's fight off with Logan PA I saw him tweet [ __ ] him out piece or something but then I seen someone confirm that he had he had he didn't act he didn't pull out but that [ __ ] he's been calling it since day well he said there's no way that motherfucker's showing up but pulled out yet well if he doesn't show up how is he making money that's what I was wondering that's what I was wondering

say man can't take a break uh off Twitter without people thinking I'm pulling out well his [ __ ] tweet he's a f yeah well he's a he's a great troll yeah he is is I me it's he's doing it I mean for a guy that's last time he fought was in Bellator like when how long ago yeah probably four or five years ago but for Logan's girl to sue him lawsuits lawyers that [ __ ] there's nothing more [ __ ] stressful and frustrating than that Going through that stuff and Dylan Pride doesn't have

a lot of cheddar so now he's getting sued he has to hire a lawyer and those lawyer bills add the [ __ ] up so I bet he's [ __ ] stressing look at this he's he's sparring with Alex paa that's very interesting yeah Alex's being real nice to him yeah real nice by the way yeah real nice and you know you're only going to learn so much in a certain amount of time right I mean it's Not like Dylan is an absolutely terrible Striker yeah but he's not a striker he's a elite Grappler his

grappling is [ __ ] amazing I mean he's really [ __ ] good on the ground he's Sensational that that kid has some [ __ ] serious Jiu-Jitsu but it's just he's not known for being a boxer it's like it's like the Ben asrin situation yeah you know Jake Paul offers you more money probably than he made his entire UFC career for a boxing match after You've had a hip replacement you're like [ __ ] it I'm in so he comes in looking like a guy who delivers milk we were there gut tit oh yeah

that was crazy that was crazy did that say trending in Texas North Korea is that what that said on Twitter what's going on in North Korea oh I don't know it sounds fun oh Jesus don't freak me out see I'll see when I click it if anything interesting up I'm so scared I think the story of the day with there is there's a American Soldier that crossed and he's now back in American custody so that story is just yeah some guy they were going to arrest him he said [ __ ] you I'm going to

North Korea and he escaped from South Korea and went across the border Jesus and they gave him back d That's how annoying that dude is still one of the one of the craziest pods was having that uh girl from North Korea on one with big titties y me Park yeah Heavies that pod [ __ ] still just like That was hard to listen to she's so small man she so because you know she starved all her her body is so frail like when you shake her hand it's almost like you're worried you're going to break

her hand there tiny little hands like you shake her hand it's like so gentle just like a bunch of little sticks covered by skin and she's so smart I was like God damn brilliant lady and boy does she have some like cautionary tals of what happens when you Give the government control because the way their country worked is they said we're going to take the land away from the farmer so that everyone will have food we'll just grow the food for everyone and then they're like no we're not once once they took them the land

away they're like no you going to eat what we tell you to you got to do what we tell you to wear what we tell you to that's crazy that's going on today right now it [ __ ] makes no sense yeah That's the thing that people need to understand when they think about dictators like we don't have we don't have to worry about that it's America we're democracy right but all over the world the world's run by dictators like all over the world it's happening right now where people live in horrific conditions do they

think they're living good though they think in North Korea they don't know some people don't know because they they have no control Control the internet like the the government controls everything they and the people really believe that the rest of the world is jealous of North Korea North Korea is perfect and amazing and ho in on a big religion yeah well it's a cult and you know when when the father died when Kim Jong-un died they they all had to mourn him and if you didn't mourn him enough you would get arrested and put you

in jail like there was like a certain amount of time so there's like Performative mourning so if you see like there's videos of performative mourning for uh Kim jong-un's death so there's all these people outside in public in North Korea just performatively crying and moaning like a porno like you have to do it maybe porno is more honest I would imagine if you're actually having sex what's up Sparkle J yeah yeah yeah so I would imagine if you're actually you know a person having sex it probably Feels really good you don't really have to fake

it you just have to ignore that there's a camera there used to girls having to fake it when he's having sex with them you're right [ __ ] sounds like you're [ __ ] gym God how much is like social media these days affecting like marriage I wonder what the percentage of like success rate marriage is going to be in about five years that's a really good question because I was watching uh YouTube the other day and a clip popped Up that I didn't watch but it was Lex fredman had some guy on and the

guy was explaining how Instagram is essentially uh an infidelity accelerating machine because if you think of like how many I mean I know guys who are married and their wife's page is all their wife sticking their titties out and sticking their butt out I mean it's literally the whole page it's like these girls and I'm not talking about girls who are like professional Fitness influencers that Are just showing how good their body is I'm just talking about just regular gals like if you're a professional Fitness person and you know maybe train people or something like

that yeah of course you should show your body that's what everybody wants yeah you're you're literally advertising by look I did this to me I can help you do this to you but some of them are just just ass and titties and like do what do you like my feet it's like and like they're married Right so you know they're getting bombed on the DMs like constantly and if something goes wrong in the marriage they have like probably so many options like pro athletes are dming them and who knows you know God same with the

guys too how easily those relationships are just available what I was talking about that last night with the dating apps like when someone uh in one of those uh bottom of the barrel shows one of the questions was hinge which was a dating App and I was like how much are you going to be invested in trying to figure somebody out if you've got like a hundred people that you swiped on that are also ready to go and you could just like leave the this date sucks like text this person like hey um something just

came up I just got out of a meeting do do you want to go have a late drink and then you go meet that person like all right we're trying again and then if you're really that person that's like It's got to be addictive like everything else on social media is addictive yeah so and addicted to just meeting people and just swiping and they all look hot like let's [ __ ] go yeah it's dangerous I mean marriage is such a tough crazy thing do you know a lot of people have successful marriages I know

people that have successful marriages I wouldn't say I know a lot I think look what is the divorce rate we know that 40% I think It's higher I think the national divorce rate is close to 50% Chris Rock always had a great bit about that he goes he goes and that's just the people that had the courage to get out how many cowards stay and suffer especially when they have kids and they're just staying together being miserable with kids and and they they don't even know those kids are sitting there looking at how they interact

with each other it's just affecting them they just feel the Interactions if it's not genuine yeah just there for the kids like [ __ ] yeah if they feel like a bitterness between them and and then they also they'll identify future relationships like that too you know that's like a scary thing about people who grow up in like abusive households like if the mother and father are abusive to each other and verbally abusive to each other then they'll probably pattern that as they get older and they they just think you're supposed To like fight and

then make up fight and then make up and then people get caught up in that cycle of fighting and make up cuz it feels good to make make up you know and the makeup sex is amazing but the fighting part is just like you people get brutal they insult each other and break each other down it's like yeah we're so lucky cuz I've been with my girl almost 13 years now and you've been with Danny for almost 10 yeah but I bet being like the star you are now trying To find a chick that I

mean the guys that are stars trying to act find actual love yeah that' be tough it's possible I think it's probably easier if you're a guy to find a good girl than you're a girl to find a good guy well yeah I would think so because like I mean to be sexist and to talk in sexist terms women think of a man as a provider like so you want a guy who can keep it together right you want a guy who you're going to have children you're going to want a guy Who's going to be

able to keep it together financially be stable be disciplined do all the things he's going to do not fall apart not become a drug addict not [ __ ] do something really stupid and lose his job and not like just give up because of that and then everybody gets on welfare like you have to like count on someone unless you want to work yourself so there there's this like evolutionary aspect and I think it's hard like if you're a guy what do You want out of a woman I want her to be nice I want

her to be interest fat ass all the physical things but you want her to be a good person a nice person I don't need him to be successful yeah like no guy cares like you do not care at all like I would not care at all like if I was a sing single guy and I met a g and she was like a bartender I did one like just a bartender yeah you don't have any businesses like no one cares no one cares like are you nice are you nice Are you cool you fun to

be with do I enjoy spending time with you then who cares so but but a woman like Taylor Swift is not going to marry a bartender right [ __ ] so true [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here I sell out stadiums yeah what do you do you make drinks for that's why she's talking with what that Travis Kelce guy though F got to do something big time going to share that's a good point thought about that yeah who knows it's Uh it's a I think it's a tougher Road for a

woman to find a good man that's what I think yeah if I'm guessing cuz I don't know that many good men I know a lot of cool women in terms of like the all overall number of men that I know like how many of them are going for it yeah I'm lucky I know a lot of cool people and I meet a lot of cool people but just like General folks like how many of these General folks are keeping it together lazy fox a lot of lazy fox There a lot of I feel like comedians

is there a lot of lazy comedians that are kind of naturally funny that could be way better that just kind of just get by with the little funniness that there's that there's some guys that are talented and they don't apply themselves enough cuz Hans we were talking to Hans Kim and he was like kill Tony makes him kind of have to [ __ ] a minute every week to where he can't be lazy but he said if he didn't he would probably be lazy yeah Like that's crazy that you just know that well I'll probably

be lazy that mindset you got to work out with Hans and you see what you're talking about is [ __ ] he goes to the gym and it's like you lazy [ __ ] what are you doing go to work is so people don't like correlate the two like creativity and health I don't think they have anything to do with each other yeah yeah it's that Mind Body thing like people who concentrate only on the Mind think the body's Frivolous and they don't care what they look like and then people concentrate only on the body

they're not thinking about their mind but they're they're interconnected it's your being your being is your body and your mind they're all contained in the same vessel if you can keep that vessel healthy and happy and keep it like on track you'll have a better life is there a certain time when you have your like best ideas and stuff even at night almost always at night but Sometimes in the morning sometimes I'll spark a [ __ ] Dua right when I wake up and start writing like it just depends on how I feel like I

do allow like as long as I get my work done what I need to get done like exercise and writing and all that stuff I I'll allow it sometimes to happen at different time so sometimes I wake up in the morning and I just have a night I just wake up and I'm like I got to write right now I got some ideas and then I'll you know get high And sit in front of the computer for a couple hours and sometimes sometimes it's coming after the club like some of the best [ __ ]

I've ever written is like I went offstage I got home and I just sat down and started going over ideas and then come up with things God that's so sweet that that's your Club when we were watching last night on the balcony looking down at you performing in your Club I like that's [ __ ] so sweet that's so sweet that's like a dream come True like it's not even a dream I ever had really just happened I had to do it once we got here so I needed to get the [ __ ] out

of La the George Floyd riots were happening they're defunding the police they're telling you you can't do standup you can't go to restaurants you can't do anything and I was starting to get really sketched out and I've always want my at the time my youngest kids were uh 10 and 12 which I felt like is the age that you can still move them and They'll be okay MH you know when you start moving kids at 15 and 16 they really resent it because they're like socially connected to their friends they're going to the high school

if they like their high school and they like their friends it sucks so it's it was perfect they met friends early it was like the people here are so friendly and it was like immediate I was like I love it here I love it here I'm I feel so home but there was no real Comedy Club There was this place the Vulcan but the sound sucked and it was like there was always issues and so we used the Vulcan as a place to practice and it was good because then we would go on the road

on the weekends we were doing Arenas and all these comedy shows but right away I was like I I need to open up a club and um Ron White told me to buy that the the building that was owned by the cult we're going to watch that after that yeah I love cult shows cult shows Are good motivating I almost own that building I I was under contract for that building if it wasn't for their their issues I feel like the one you got [ __ ] perfect cuz was it on the same street or

is it no no that that's the one that I had is on this big property it's way off the beaten path oh this is perfect huh oh yeah this is perfect cuz I'm getting all the people that are in the hotels downtown they could just walk there all the the foot traffic you know And on 6th Street in front of my club at Friday and Saturday they shut the whole street down bro Tuesday night last night I was like what the [ __ ] feels like a weekend crazy line out the door was insane always

that's so [ __ ] sweet and we've revitalized that area that's sweet and so other stuff is booming there too and there's a big development company that's bought off they bought up a giant chunk of Sixth Street and they have all these amazing plans so it's Really exciting was it stressful stressful building that place out I mean what's stressful is being poor I was going to say you stressful is coal mining to feel your feed your kids and you're already getting black long what I had to do was complicated but it's I wouldn't say it

was stressful because it didn't hurt me financially like I I knew that it's very rare it's like there's time sometimes things happen in life where you go God if I Don't do this who's gonna like who's going to do it other than me like it seems like the world wants me to do this that's why I knocked out aljo so it's just I felt like look this is the thing to do I open up a badass comedy club and at the same time all my friends that worked for The Comedy Store were unemployed because The

Comedy Store had shut down and so they weren't getting any money and I was like how about I just hire you guys move y'all Out here and let's build a club together that's soet what we did [ __ ] insane we did it the right way yeah it was so fun hanging up there like David Lucas William Hans Tony just like feeling like a part of the group for a little bit was [ __ ] really fun that was a good time it's a real fun H it's like we it's like if you could hang

with your boys and have like the best night of your life a point where like you're thinking about it months later we do that every night Belly laughing every night and it's all professional comedian so we're all constantly talking [ __ ] and laughing and but the it's almost like podcast too cuz the conversations will segue and interesting things and someone will bring something up and they'll be all talking about it we're playing music and heading down to mits after was fun the bar like that was really fun too not not usually go to just

makes it that much more sweet there's just no phones too That's cool I like that being a to take the phones away and lock those things up that's [ __ ] sweet yeah people don't like it but man it makes you pay attention and it makes the experience way better yeah if you accidentally say a little something you're all right yeah it just makes it better for everybody that's what they have to understand like people are reluctant to do it but listen it's better for the art form it's better for you just go and have

a good time Yeah I like how they lock them for real like I went to like we up on the balcony like just grab mine and was like oh [ __ ] locked in that [ __ ] which is cool though I like that yeah it's just we did everything that we could to make it the best experience possible for the comedians the best for the audience we we just did it right took a long time can a person that's like not really naturally that funny become a great comedian it's a good question I don't

Think it's impossible I think if you're smart and you can figure it out I think people can figure things out it's like I think there's a certain mindset that you would have to acquire and I think some people they're very diffic it's very difficult for them to change the way they look at things and change the way um they think other people see them because people have a delusional idea of how other people see you and I think in comedy sometimes you have to approach You have to think of it in a different way you

have think of it as an audience as much as you have to think of it as yourself such a sweet skill I've tried to like kind of write [ __ ] down and I look at a couple weeks later I'm like what the [ __ ] I thought that was funny even a little bit like it wasn't yeah well it's it's like anything else man like you got to do it around a bunch of people who do it and in in our case you literally have to practice it in front Of audiences like some of

the stuff you saw last night was brand new like one of the bits I did last night I had just done for the first time during the first show and then there's all the stuff that we do like in that little room with the bottom of the barrel that's completely improvised and so that's how you develop an act by like just you have to practice it live in front of people so I have how many times do you do something In the barrel room or when you're doing the barrel show that's [ __ ] good

good but you can't write it down or someone recording just in case I record everything okay just in case you're like [ __ ] what was that I always record them and then I listen to them and every now and then there's like a little thing that you forgot you're like oh [ __ ] it's funny or can be yeah it can be they're like little seeds you know and like let me to water this [ __ ] let water this [ __ ] a couple of them yesterday obviously won't say anything right now but

that [ __ ] had me [ __ ] laugh and so I wonder I wonder what like Tom sagur and Christina P like what their home life's like cuz they're such high level comedians that's pry talk [ __ ] they're talking [ __ ] all day they got kids too their kids talk [ __ ] oh yeah bit yeah he's his one kid calls him Tom he won't call Dad and he goes hey I'm your [ __ ] Dad call me dad all right Tom Down Tom they live out here oh [ __ ] yeah

he lives here they both live here too yeah their podcast [ __ ] funny yeah we we there's like 15 world class comedians that moved to Austin over the last three years so [ __ ] if I had to move anywhere it would definitely be Austin I couldn't live around this though I would [ __ ] get too distracted what around six Street you mean just around town like I live in wadel I just got a farm I got 15 chickens and [ __ ] I live like out I I Have to cuz I get

too I know myself oh there's plenty of [ __ ] that's how I lived when I lived in California I lived about 35 minutes outside of La do you have chickens now yes I do I [ __ ] I'm recently a chicken guy they've been starting to lay eggs and it's so [ __ ] fun grabbing those eggs every morning it's something about grabbing the egg cracking it and [ __ ] so nutritious too yeah we've been getting a bunch giving them some yeah ours haven't Started laying eggs yet we got fresh chickens they're they're

only now a couple months old so they're getting their feathers and getting all the fluff is starting to go away it's pretty bad they're like rich and colorful like way different yeah oh and the eggs somebody's watching them walk around outside [ __ ] so something about it yo you ever see what they do to mice I haven't I I've heard they're [ __ ] Savages though you never seen a video of A chick [ __ ] up this is how I found out about it we were um we we had this fence in California

that was uh this like R iron fence in our backyard and my wife said you know what that fence kind of [ __ ] up our view why don't we get a glass fence so we got a glass fence and then Hawks couldn't figure out there was a glass fence and they would bam and there was like three of them that wound up dead they got koed and one of them got koed but he was like still lying in The backyard and so my wife and my kids rescued him and so they put him in

a box like watch this cat with this mouse so this cat's playing around with his Mouse they just oh no watch his chicken [ __ ] no way yeah chicken's way more Savage than that cat look [ __ ] [ __ ] that Mouse up it's br oh yeah get the [ __ ] out of here cat this is mine the cat just the cat's like you got it leave me alone chickens are funny bro vicious so what happened was um th this Hawk got [ __ ] up and uh they put him in like

this big box and put them in the bottom of the box and then my wife went to the pet store and they got these I think they call them pinkies they're like little baby mice that they feed to snakes and [ __ ] like that they got a bunch of them and so they fed a bunch of them to this Hawk and he ate them all except for one and there was one left and my daughter's like they were only like four they not like we want to raise It I you can't I go it's

doesn't have its mother it's going to die I'm like we we let's just let's just feed it to the chickens oh no I go that doesn't make any sense you just fed it to the hawk but now you don't want to feed it to the chickens like the chickens are our friends they give us eggs the hawk is just some flying monster who kills all the rats and So eventually they said okay I go do you guys want to come with me like no so I went out and the chicken Coop by myself and I

put that thing down and they Dove on it a like piranas just and one got in in her beak and she's running around the chicken coop and all of them are chasing after her and biting at her face and trying to steal the mouse from her I've never seen anything like it cuz every other time they eat like we if we serve them you know chicken feed and we serve them like dried worms and all these different things they PE at it but they don't Steal from each other and they're not frantic but they knew

that that fresh meat the fresh meat Of Mice for whatever reason that is like their favorite thing they went crazy man it was wild to see what a perfect animal for cuz they've been around for millions and millions years right so they lay in Lay food every day it's like a perfect [ __ ] animal God God put down there for us yeah and if you're a person that has a good relationship with that chicken like All these people that are vegan that's like I would never eat eggs like listen it's not going to be

a chicken it can't be a chicken you don't have a rooster it's not going to be a chicken it's just food not only it's that it's food from your pet so you have a good relationship with them give them corn and feed let them arrange around your yard eat bugs and all that stuff and you'll get this unbelievably nutritious food For free and you get animal protein so you don't have to be a [ __ ] sick person you don't have to be like protein you know deficient and and feeling terrible and having to supplement

everything with [ __ ] soy and this and that and like you could eat eggs yeah how many times a day are you eating meat every day how many times a day every meal um and I'm eating probably twice a day yeah I don't you generally I don't eat more than twice a day I I don't Usually eat lunch usually lunch is my breakfast it's like the first meal I have of the days around noon even days you train hard yeah yeah I I don't mind training on an empty stomach but I will have a

piece of fruit or something like that if I know I'm really going to get after it a lot of electrolytes too but the the thing for me is like I don't tell everybody's different I know people that are fine with a vegetarian diet it's not me though though you know when I used to try to lose weight when I was competing I was trying to make 140 lbs and I only made it one year um my senior year in high school and I couldn't do it again it was just too hard I was and I

was so I tried vegetarianism for six months and I I just felt listless I'm 100% for sure wasn't doing it well I wasn't even taking supplements back then but I just didn't want to go up to the next weight class and then when I made the decision to go up to the next weight Class I started eating meat and it was like like immediately because I was 177 so my body was like hey [ __ ] we're trying to get stronger what are you what are you doing giving us corn you know and then from

then on I always say like God it's like when I eat meat I feel better I know that I know that I didn't do that well I know I haven't tried it since but when I went on a full carnivore diet like a few years ago for a month where I ate Nothing but meat for a month I was like God it's like the best I've ever felt so now I've been doing that for three solid months damn three and a half almost three three and a half solid months of nothing but meat I feel

great I don't know how you don't eat those cheeseburgers from that [ __ ] what God I keep forgetting what it's it called not a damn chance Burger yeah that thing still has me thinking about like a [ __ ] ex-girlfriend God TW well that's Phillip Philip Franklin Lee is the man Michelin star Chef who decided to make the perfect cheeseburger so he uses wagu patties so it's like Choice topof thee line beef he knows exact L how to cook them uses American singles you know he's like that's the perfect cheese for these Burgers you

want like this kind of melty cheese product not like an actual piece of cheese cuz it's not even really chees oh everything's perfect everything look at that thing it's so soft and just Perfect like there's not too much going on it was just wrapped up nicely warm so we are doing a collaboration there's a company that I work with called Senor luga that makes Sensational small batch hot sauces it's so good and senior luga is we're now putting those sauces in a not a damn chance bger so it's a triple Patty cuz I'm a glutton

yep and it's got bacon and it's got pickles and onions and tomatoes triple Pat smashed let's go that's fun that's fun going to go you Ever do you get your blood work like looked at and stuff yeah all the time and it's always looking healthy from the carnivore yeah it's great sweet I wonder how many people like I wonder if it's just genetics I think it is just genetics you got figured out what's best for you yeah I think the way your ancestors evolved has a significant effect a lot of sense yeah I think it's

it's just natural like if you were from the North or you were born and raised in Mexico or but I think also meat is the most nutrient-dense food in the world I mean especially game meat it's so filled with game game meat a lot of eat eat being eating gays they're slower and they tend they tend to give up quicker some of them are passive so I eat them no be a good gay game meat uh you know cuz I I hunt so I get all this elk meat and deer meat and I I think

there's a significant factor in that too cuz it just is so it's so [ __ ] good for you it just feels good for you when you're eating it I feel like it makes sense better than a fat [ __ ] cow that's just roaming around dude the color of a a fresh [ __ ] elk tenderloin is crazy compared to a dying fat cow mhm yeah when I cut elk steaks and I vacuum seal them so what I do is I'll get like the back straps and I'll set up a cutting board and I

slice them when I'm slicing into it man it's like red gold yeah you know this slice of and Then I'm trimming all the silver skin around and I'm looking at that thing that's this meal that I just vacuum sealed now I'm going to freeze like that is so valuable to me it's so delicious and so good for you you wake up horny so when I eat like that I do but I like ribe eyes too because ribe eyes have a lot of fat and when you're eating only meat you really want to get a lot

of fat in there too somehow or another so for me it's like butter and eggs and Bacon and whatever I can do to get fat or ribe eyes so if I'm it's game meat it's usually game meat with something else that's going to provide me with some fats I'll still eat avocados I'll still eat other things why is some elk like super gy it's 100% how they took care of it oh like right after they killed it unless yeah unless the animal I've I shot an animal once and uh he had a large pus section

in his hip so he had gotten Stabbed by another elk they kill each other all the time I mean those antlers that's what that's for that's that's not for defense against wolves or anything like that that is to kill each other Jesus they just [ __ ] smash smash heads with these giant like War antlers and they stab each other like I've I've seen elk that have stab holes in their body cam Haynes snuck up on a beded elk once he saw this beded elk and he got within like 40 yards this beded elk Drew

Back placed a perfect arrow through through its vitals and it didn't budge didn't even move so he went over to it and it was already dead it had been killed by another bull he's like waa all over [ __ ] all over [ __ ] and then they become homeless afterwards they're they're friends good f fight before and after they're friends for like 9 10 months and then something happens and they start just m season [ __ ] horny one gal gets into estris and the next She looking good walking away [ __ ] she's

making noises they make noises they go you ever called in an elk oh yeah yeah called two week [ __ ] in the hotel room and his travel bag he was [ __ ] calling it like 2 a.m. in the hotel room last night do you El hunt have you been my brother and dad are like big Hunters live in Montana hunt everything like they're big about it that's the mecca yeah yeah it is Montana's a Mecca that's crazy I grew up not even [ __ ] Couldn't even spell hunt didn't nothing well we were

talking about getting uh getting me dialed in on a bow you shoot a bow sometimes I want to bring you to cam haynes's place that where's that here it's in Oregon Oregon and he does this thing called lift run shoot so you lift with him you run with them and he'll take you to the bow rack and film it for YouTube that would be fun until you got to run 20 miles I think it's 13 oh actually I Think it's like I no no no no no I think he has you run up Mount pigsa

and then you uh or you you can carry a rock it's like up to you you can either run or you can carry this giant rock I'd rather run I can [ __ ] run I actually that fight Camp last fight Camp was the first time I didn't wasn't running no treadmill Sprints I did some stairs just cuz they W weren't too bad on my knees but air dying though did a lot of [ __ ] aerodine just is The [ __ ] yeah it sucked it sucks a fat one but it is the [

__ ] when it comes to cardio our Sprints we were doing cuz we couldn't MMA Spar we were doing [ __ ] sprints on the airod hit and Ms speed ladders air oh my God it was [ __ ] miserable I woke up and just did not want to do it at all Francis said that was his primary cardio for the serial gone fight because he [ __ ] his knee up yeah probably that was probably my primary cardio is the no other machine Can gas you out more I don't think in 30 seconds You'

be like I'm Versa climber does well is the one that does pretty [ __ ] well at gassing you out too that's a good one we have that here I love that thing but I think if I had to pick one piece of cardio equipment it's the Rogue Echo Bike it's their version of it I think it's like super beefy and sturdy and it also one of the things I like is it has like a you can get a plastic lid that covers the fan in front Of you so that it doesn't blow air at

you so it doesn't cool you off yeah that sucks sometimes yeah you don't get cooled off you just get [ __ ] tired yeah some of those air Dy and and padwork sessions we were doing your heart rate was getting to 200 like 202 I have M have a high heart rate I feel like but what's what's your resting you have a aura yeah 50 well when I'm like when I'm out like this and [ __ ] 54 55 when you're in Camp when you're Tip Top Moo shap 48 47 yeah but yours even like

when you're not in great great shape is is super low 43 is yeah do you do a lot of cardio I mean not a ton not a ton I mean I rolled long Jiu-Jitsu rounds and stuff but not a lot of cardio I try to do those zone two cardio that is cardio though I mean for sure your heart rate's elevated through the most of it and you know I think also like one of the things they say about cardio training they there's like different kinds of training Like there's interval Sprints like tatas but just

steady state cardio where you're constantly at around 130 135 which is a lot of rolling especially if you're technical rolling you're not spazzing out yeah you're kind of constantly at this like you're not exhausted but you're constantly so good for your heart very Zone Z two yeah that's they say that's the best five times a week There's No Excuses people aren't doing that even going on a walk For 45 minutes for mental strength to just sit there and do cardio for 40 minutes have you ever play movie no I haven't bro we played pickle ball

for the first time the other day and it was some of the most fun I I love Ball Sports anyway uh but that was so much fun it was like way more fun than tennis yeah what's so much more fun about it than tennis well tennis is harder to like [ __ ] actually hit it over it was like it was Like a big game of ping pong and you play two on two Duos and it was like I don't know it was just so much fun but hour and a half goes by like that

and good workout you're sweat and your heart rate's up a bit it was just [ __ ] fun do you do cardio yeah what do you usually do the Echo Bike Echo Bike put on a movie one yeah yeah or I watch fights Echo Bike nice not so loud like the air or Thea bike they they're both pretty loud but I uh my my home gym is Set up where the airdine the the Echo Bike is right in front of the TV it's this big ass TV so I just put on Fight Pass just find

some good events salts oh yeah [ __ ] oh where are we we got the real ones that's right that's right is that a freshy let's get a freshy one do we have a bag that hasn't been opened definitely yeah I've got get a bag that has not been opened I want us to like have multiple bags in store well I still have two that are not this brand three I Have three that are not this brand started watering I think I still this brand if you have that brand that's the [ __ ] that's

Juju muu stuff you want test this one while we find it yeah give me give me I put I throw on I've been throwing on some kill Tony too when I'm doing like my hourong zone I'll thr Tony this is I think the seal just got left on I don't think it's uh can you unscrew it oh you're right too quick is that strong seems PR I'm going To fake it's strong but it's not as strong as it is it's complet frh don't do it don't do it let me get a fresh one think this

might be fresh enough the fresh one is so I can smell it from here give it a shot I literally smell here front Uncle Joe that's nothing compared to the fresh one woo now now let's get a fresh now let's get a fresh bre what did who told me that you're only supposed to do it a couple of times a day me it says it on There oh I can't read that that's for [ __ ] that's like a no my handwriting I can't read my eyes sucks oh my God that's like a fresh bump

you thought about getting PRK no it doesn't Su that bad I just can't read like little tiny [ __ ] like I can't read that oh I mean I can read my phone holy [ __ ] that one you ever take a macular support vitamins pure encapsulations has a um a macular support formula that I was like you know as you get older one of the things that Absolutely happens for most people except [ __ ] cam hannes that [ __ ] has like 2015 vision really he's a freaking nature though but uh you get

uh you get macul degeneration it's just like no matter what happens but I I killed it in its tracks with this pure Visions um pure encapsulation uh macular sport now this oh [ __ ] the man this is the [ __ ] because this is in the bag right now so you got this sealed bag and then inside it's sealed so when I open this bag just opening this bag I'm going to smell it we six or seven on Deck just we going hit some [ __ ] dead lips okay I know I'm about to

[ __ ] all right now you smell it through there through there so the package isn't even open right now what just take a sniff of that it's not even open oh God not even not even open yet now I loved when you and Theo were hitting it you're like I one more now now I'm going to take this and then there's a seal on top of it so We're not you can smell it through the bottle son what the it's got to be just good for your brain it's got to be terrible for you

I know it's going to be terrible for you all all right here we [Music] go why would you do that oh you got in there get in there get in there son get in there son you had hit let's go champ okay I did it enough you didn't you got you got a Really holy that takes a man to be able to rip that every day W going to hit some [ __ ] squats baby God damn oh I'm going toy yeah hit that before rolling oh yeah I don't know if that would be good

though I smash people I think it's really good for like deadlifts hockey guys love it before they go smash people yeah what definitely puts you in a psychotic state of mind right uh this one's oh [ __ ] I Stripped it oh this one's the most fresh all right Ho Holy Smokes Jesus that's the most freshy of the freshest hit that before you pounce a puss we get your mind right I don't know if it would I don't know if it' get your mind right I don't know I don't know if it would be good

for anything I think that's good for like maybe goofy run on podcast and deadlifting right that's a [ __ ] how you sell it right there but all those Powerlifter dudes oh my God it's like still in there like it's still like tick on my Brian Simpson hit it it was so bad that he had to take his headphones off and he ran out of the room he broke those headphones tooo his set was funny as [ __ ] last night too he's good he's so funny that was funny he lives with Hans right yeah

yeah we went over that house is funny it's just like it's just funny why it's like what we our house look like proba maybe comedians live together It's like that's one of the cool things about that green one too is like we have this like communal hang where we going all cuz it's it's the most fun it's the most fun to hang out with other coms it's just everyone's always laughing roasting always [ __ ] yeah the dark humor [ __ ] is just so much fun to where you just can't quite say [ __

] online or in public or on podcast but you can say [ __ ] in the green room or at the houseon let it rip yeah it's funny too how Nobody even blinks we were talking about this the other day like Duncan we were talking about someone and I go have you ever seen this thing that this lady did and we were watching it Duncan goes I'd let her piss in my mouth and no one even blinked I go can you imagine any other work environment where one of your co-workers says I let her piss

in my mouth and no one gets offended that's funny no one even blinked no one even reacted does Duncan live here yeah he Lives here too I [ __ ] like I always enjoy those podcasts I like him Duncan lives here Tim Dylan lives here oh [ __ ] Tim Dyan yeah Ron White lives here Tom sagur Christina pitsky f wild a ton of upand coming Comics there's so because we have two nights of Open Mic nights so two nights where the amateurs can practice we have door people showcases so all the door guys all

the people that auditioned to be uh like the people that work the door all professional Comedians And they addition for that job with her act cam Patterson did he too yeah that [ __ ] is funny he's young his uncle too yeah he's got real talent like that guy could really be something yeah it's just a time thing you know mhm and you know and he moved out here too just came out here from Florida I was like [ __ ] it I remember watching that episode when he got in the first time came on

it's so cool to see how just like killing it in that one minute can [ __ ] change your life it's so cool to see oh it changes everything it's that that show has launched so many careers and it's a great uh Bedrock for the comedy scene here in Austin because it teaches you to just be funny it's not about like whatever woke cultural Trends and espousing all the right virtues on stage which you do [ __ ] see at some of these places really yeah because they they're young kids and they think they have

to be woke and they see certain People on Netflix and they you know they see them getting critical reviews so they try to ape that they try to like kind of mimic that Mo and pretend they're that and they just get caught in this world of virtue signaling instead of the world of just trying to be funny and on kill Tony you're just trying to be funny everyone's just trying to be funny and you can make a legit career and everybody realizes how fun it is so it's like it's kind of training people To just

go out out there and make people have a good time yeah no one else could do it like Tony too he's just the perfect amount of Ruthless yeah oh he's so ruthless he's such an evil little [ __ ] we were watching the last episode they just dropped and Ron or no uh uh [ __ ] Ric Flair was on there yeah and and ton they started making fun of The Comedians and Rick's like I will not be a part of this I just like also he was hammered was he sure he looked like he

[ __ ] he was obliterated they said they went drinking with him on Sunday and he said it's like a movie he's like RI Flair's like let's go meet some girls girls and like he's doing Long Island Ice teas just getting yeah his ears were incredibly long that was impressive that's what happens with old people is it your nose grows and your ears grow forever yeah your ears and your nose keep growing is that like could that be like from human Growth hormones I don't I think it's just an age thing I I think all

old people have giant ears like you see really old people so if you like are young and you little ears like these ears suck like hang in there you're you're have a normal face instead of looking like [ __ ] Dumbo yeah some old people have crazy big ears for for like your big like crazy podcasts like I mean like Elon and all Those things do you do like anything special in the morning or just a normal morning normal yeah I don't want to be hung over right yeah that would Su yeah especially like an

Elon one or a scientist one mean I'll do it depending upon the subject if it's scientist often times I'll read their book or I'll I'll listen to it or I'll uh watch lectures that they've given or Ted Talks just try to get a sense of like what what I am what I'm curious about about whatever The subject is [ __ ] you do it those guys that are just so smart you do a good job at just not letting your mind water and focusing on what they're saying yeah that's a [ __ ] skill well

it's really because the only reason they're there is cuz I'm actually interested in the subject so I don't have to fake it you know so it's not even really like a skill is just my my honest curiosity so when I'm talking to a guy like Brian keading or something you know Astrophysicists Guys these guys are they're so goddamn smart that really all I'm trying to do is like just get a grasp of how this is understood what what are they doing to figure this out is it possible that they're going to know in the future

that this data is incorrect and what other you know what other factors could be like they're talking about the age of the universe and there's some debate now that the age of the universe is probably not really 13.7 billion years but maybe even 26 billion or more and so talking to him about that is like how do you how are you figuring this out like and just to talk to those people it's so interesting just to be able to have these kind of conversations with those type of people you know have you always been curious

like that your whole life yeah I think so about the things I'm curious in but I was terrible in school like in school I was terrible I just did not want to be There I just wanted to get I thought they were just preparing me for a job that I didn't want and I didn't want to be a part and I and I looked at them and I was like I don't want to be you so true like what what is this life you're living you don't have any Joy you don't have fun you know

you're all rigid and you look depressed like get me out of here that's what I when I was in school I was like get me out of here after I graduated from high school I used to Have nightmares that I didn't graduate and I had to go back that's funny I I knew I didn't want to go to I was in like elementary school and I was like I'm no no chance I'm going to college cuz once I'm oh [ __ ] I think we have that L were you getting pre I mean you weren't

getting any pressure from your parents or anything about college oh yeah I was yeah but still you said no [ __ ] way well I took a year I was to tell everybody I I'm taking a year off But it's like I was really all I wanted to do was compete back then but there was Zero money in Taekwondo and then I wanted to make into the Olympics but then when I was uh training one of the things that I noticed is first of all I always had my doubt of what that that's the best

style but then when I started kickboxing I was starting to get lit up by kickboxers and I was like oh my God there's so many holes in this and I don't want to like compete in this thing That's so limited chopping your legs down that punches too Muay Thai was next kickboxing American kickboxing was first it was like above the wayist stuff but I just when you got trapped in a corner and my hand sucked I just sucked at boxing I was really good at kicking people if they're on the outside I I was amazed

at how bad their kicks were like most of the kick boxes are trained with I could just [ __ ] them up from the outside loading up yeah they were Loading up they they just their techniqu sucked the their knees were down they're kicking up they everything's telegraphed it's like the kicks were just a part of brawling and they just threw it in there but if I could like get out of the way and I was like moving on the outside I could close the distance so much faster than they could but then in kickboxing

when I was getting boxed I was like oh my God I have giant holes in my game and so it made me like really not enjoy Taekwondo anymore and so I stopped competing in Taekwondo and I started kickboxing and then I started getting headaches cuz we weren't sparring we were fighting one of my main uh sparring partners was this dude that had just got out of jail I knew him when I was 16 and he was kind of crazy then but then he went to jail for uh something to do with drugs and then he

came out uh three years later when I was 19 and he was a totally different person he was super Jacked like I don't know if they got steroids in jail or whatever he had sanded off all of his tattoos he used to have these really shitty tattoos and he had like literally burn them off so all of his arm was covered with these like keloid scars and when me and that guy would Spar it was a fight to the death he would just be chasing me down we' be blasting each other and I remember one

time lying in my uh bed broke 20 years old no money no future and you know i' Had been offered a pro fight for like $400 or $500 or something like that MMA no kickboxing there was no MMA at the time this is 1988 and I remember thinking what am I doing like what am I doing with my life you know 500 bucks and there's just no future in it there's just nowhere to go like so you're getting good at this thing that there's nothing there there's nowhere to go with it like you could become

a boxer but you're not good at boxing so what are You going to do you going just get beat up get brain damage and then I got a chance to see some of the guys that I was training with start to exhibit some times of brain damage that's where it gets weird that'll open your eyes up a bit you've been still doing your Invisalign yeah I took it off today have it on today you guys got them on too I I wore mine for about a year and a half my I cannot believe what cuz

I didn't realize how [ __ ] up my teeth were and Then someone pointed it out and I was like this I was like damn they're [ __ ] up and then I got invis line after you did and I'll be smiling all day now locking around like it work good as a mouthpiece too like I don't mind I kind of crave him being in sometimes it's a better mouth piece for Jiu-Jitsu yeah Ian it's probably not good enough for striking but for for Jiu-Jitsu it's a better mouth piece there was I remember it was

a pain in the ass though some Nights you're just like I don't want to wear these or you change your trays and it's like [ __ ] God just the the timing of everything though with with your career and just social media and all this stuff just blowing up it's it's just so weird how everything worked out it's just like a lot of luck but a lot of being prepared for the luck yeah for sure yeah it's almost like fate I mean if you wanted to really believe in fate if you look at the story

That you guys have it's kind of [ __ ] weird kind of seems like it's fate I know it's yeah it's hard to say because like then what about people that don't make it is that fate too or is it like could they have made it if they were more disciplined and more driven and more this more that and they found the right coaches and they got to the right gym and could they have I don't know a lot of people just don't make the decisions and don't do What you need to do and a

lot lot of that is necessarily just like isn't hard stuff but it's like I'm going to go home I'm going to ice bath I'm going to sauna I'm going to stretch and I'm going to go to bed instead of going out with the boys and I'm going to do that for [ __ ] nine years until I'm World Champ like that was a lot of it I I know a lot of guys are so [ __ ] good but it's Friday they're going to go out hang out drink stay up late coming up we didn't

Do that ever like right now obviously D coming after the coming off the fight I've been traveling a lot over the weekends but for the most part our even still like once we get back to routine it's like just doing those little things stretching taking care of your body eating clean and just [ __ ] preparing for the next day preparing for the next training sessions for years of consistency that's what it's all about it's all about having a goal and Building towards that goal and doing everything that you can to be as great as

you can be and now that you've done it you've also laid a foundation and a groundwork you let you've LED you've LED these young Fighters like who who see what you've done and they can see that there's like a path yeah and that like I'm going to emulate this guy's Focus this guy's discipline this guy's belief in himself and you know and that is what inspires so many other people to do it I Remember you know being a kid watching the training sessions of Mike Tyson with custom a and just thinking like wow what an

amazing convergence of these two human beings about it comes together this guy's fully disciplined fully focused and then when he wins the world title at 20 years old you see him standing there in inside inside the ring after uh he knocked out Trevor berbick and you're like holy [ __ ] he did it he [ __ ] did It he did everything he had to do he [ __ ] went full boore with talent and drive and genetics and coaching and all the boxes checked everything checked and look what you get did it look what

you get yeah and how many how many people did that guy Inspire he certainly inspired me he certainly inspired thousands millions of other guys to do things especially Shawn being like a skinnier kid like inspired a lot of [ __ ] yeah no I yeah I think to Like I think uh I'm going to piss too let's let's pause we'll pause we come piss and we're back we want one these kill Clips I'm good for now I'm good thank you I'm still geeking off this caffeine a little bit right here let's [ __ ] move

dude literally I mean the art of podcasting is a crazy [ __ ] thing when you have three five hour conversations at so next level yeah I sometimes have five a week holy [ __ ] some weeks I have them every day yeah That's that's a lot it's [ __ ] impressive and it's like one day I'll be talking to Eddie Bravo we'll just be [ __ ] around talking [ __ ] and the next day I'll be talking to some super scientists wild balance mathematicians and Geniuses and psychologists it's weird do you usually think

it at like two weeks ahead or a week ahead or is it just coming and you message them or how does that go it's pretty far and advance Advance most of the time that it's Booked and it's a it's all booked on my interests so it's 100% on what I'm interested in it's like all I do is look at the potentials like who I sometimes I reach out to people like I reach out to this guy yesterday wrote this book on the American West and I reached out to him because I'd heard him on another

podcast and I got his book and sometimes it's just they they'll send the email in and it goes through my guy and it gets filtered back to me and he sends the Ones that are relevant I look at those I'm like hm I just look what what interests me this one nah no boring boring huh what's he doing okay and then I'll go see if I can find a YouTube video of them talking because I've had viers on before and they can't talk and that's kind of a bummer like maybe they talk the way they

write so they go well um so and I think and you're like oh no this this one sucks I should have listened to this guy Talk first yeah sometimes the ideas are great but the people aren't compelling yeah you ever have a smoke and then read a book oh yeah sure I like doing that yeah I like doing that I like books in the sauna it's my favorite Audi yeah audio books you're just sweating all over your pages yeah audio books in the sauna are my favorite way to consume them because you know you're going

to be in that sauna anyway I've been listening to Marcus aurelius's uh meditations in the sauna recently that's that's amazing you listen to this dude that lived 2 thousand [ __ ] years ago and he's just spitting knowledge I like Ryan holiday like how he kind of breaks down what what he says I the daily stoics the 365 days I've been I've had that book for like four years and I still religiously especially in Camp for like 12 weeks out read every morning and just like it's [ __ ] it's good yeah great stuff Ryan

Holiday is awesome yeah it's so cool when there's people that like highlight stuff like that and really put it out there and just get so many people interested in those ideas but Marcus Aurelius is like listening to his stuff I've I was always like oh this guy is so interesting like God imagine being like this conqueror this this guy who's like running Rome and or running Greece and you think like this yeah that's wild [ __ ] how does he Think like that like why is he why is his mind like how's a Melius is

a Roman Emperor right I wonder if yeah I wonder if it'd be good for like stoicism to be taught in schools at what something probably sure teaching you how to think is one of the main things that's missing from school teaching you how to manage your mind cuz how many times like Can someone say one thing to you and that thing kind of resets the way you look at stuff like oh yeah now apply this and You can apply it in real world it's like a tool that you can use you know you could try

to twist something with your fingers but if you have a wrench you're like oh yeah this is way better and sometimes ideas are like a tool and you can just apply them at various times in your life and if you can hear about them from someone who's already figured that out that's a giant step in the learning curve that you get to jump yeah I mean like even if it was Naval some of his Stuff is so [ __ ] fun to listen to his Twitter's good yeah yeah the all's good do you like did

you how did you decide what school your kids are going to go to uh you know there's there's good schools out here we're lucky California is uh much more problem atic right now for schools cuz one of the things that was happening to me uh in my school where my kids used to go is they hired some person to to teach them that they have to be Anti-racists it's not good enough to not be racist and I was like what what the [ __ ] I'm like my kids aren't racist at all like what are

you doing like why are you putting that in their head that they have to be anti-racist and call out racism and like they were trying to make kids activists I'm like hey they're five that's crazy you know like they don't even care they want they want friends they don't give a [ __ ] what their friends look like they're trying to have A good time they're five they're just playing like you're you're pumping in you're you're indoctrinating them into this woke guilt free or guilt-ridden ideology that you're carrying around with you and you feel like

you have an obligation to impose this on children you know we our our goals should have always been what the goals were that the Liberals had in like the 60s and the 70s which is a colorblind Society the Martin Luther King notion that we should treat People by the content of their character not the color of their skin but across the board and the problem is there's inequities in communities there's inequities in how people grow up and where they come from and some people are in places that have no hope and none of that gets

addressed none of that gets fixed none of that gets worked on instead you just try to make kids feel guilty it's like it's just I didn't like the woke [ __ ] I didn't like that they Were you know trying to ask kids their pronouns and how did you find out that they were doing that like we got an email it was an email like from anti-racist email yeah it was like right around the George Floyd time I like oh my God because some people what happens is they'll they'll cap there's a social movement and

they hop on that social movement to uh enhance their own career and they use it to optimize their and they you know like it's this thing that It's what you call Race Hustler you know there's there's people that do stuff like that or it canot be that it could be any kind of social issue you want that social issue to be a bigger deal than it is you're attached to that it could be climate change it could be whatever the [ __ ] it is it could be the you know you see sea Penn doing

all these interviews about the war in Ukraine like what is actually going on there well part of it is you're Attaching them yourself to something that makes you look virtuous and it it also enhances your career so it's like a thing you're doing it's very rare that when people are like trying prizz and out there trying to indoctrinate people into certain ideas it's very rare they're doing it just for True altruism like they think that those ideas are just IM immensely beneficial they're also doing it to boost themselves up and it becomes an economy an

economy of People that boost themselves up by highlighting valid valid issues in the world but doing so in a way where they become the moral compass and the person who gets to dictate how people behave and think and talk they build their little niche yeah it's just control man people love to [ __ ] control people and if they can control people because there's some guilt thing and a social uh a horrible social issue like the George Floyd thing where everybody's kind of on Board like oh my God they killed that guy this is horrible

watching that what kind of police brutality and racism and all these different things and then someone says I know what I'm going to do I'm going to ride this [ __ ] wave and I'm going to get a job in schools and I'm going to start indoctrinating people they want up firing that person that person was going hand damn and [ __ ] but you know the the whole school was like it shifted it it shifted with the the Social tide and I was like you're not supposed to be doing that to kids you're supposed

to be teaching kids that's just teach them life you I don't like you so I don't want you putting your shitty philosophy your shitty judgmental philosophy and indoctrinating children with it because I think you're a [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] who just happens to have a job at a good school teaching kids but I think if I sat you down in a pocket you'd look pretty [ __ ] stupid after a Couple hours right you know there's a lot of these people they don't get their ideas challenged and now now and they're

teaching eight-year-olds you know like Jesus Christ that's [ __ ] scary and not just teaching them how to read yeah how do you know you're a boy Billy like oh Jesus you seem pretty feminine yeah right did you ever pick a doll when you should have picked a truck do you like pink no do you mon do you monitor your kids On like Tik Tok how much they're on it and stuff yeah we modit them they they can't have their phones at night but I don't stop them from doing anything I don't stop them from

eating junk food I don't stop them from playing on their computers I don't stop them from playing with their phone but I do emphasize the value of discipline and they obviously see that I work hard and my my wife works hard and we just talk to them about stuff I think if you deny Kids social media one of the things you're going to do is you're going to kind of socially alienate them because all their friends are on social media but then there's also this thing where kids are living in a new world and even

though you didn't grow up in that world if you say oh this social media I think they're getting an adversity that you're not going to get and they're going to get some resilience from that adversity but there's going to be mental health Consequences and especially for people who didn't grow up in it and that's one of the things that they experience uh jnan haes book uh the um coddling of the American mind is about that and one of the things it highlights is self harm amongst girls ramps up considerably somewhere around 2008 2009 and it's

right when Twitter and social media and Facebook and all that stuff comes out and now they're comparing themselves to other people and comparing lives and People are using filters and they're distorting reality and and people are there's more instances of suicide and self harm and then there's bullying there's a lot of bullying well even just being on my phone like I don't feel like I'm comparing myself for but just picking up my phone and being on it surfing and then putting it down and picking it up surfing just gives you this little level of anxiety

dude [ __ ] some of the four and fiveyear olds you Can tell the ones that like in Jiu-Jitsu the ones that their parents really mon it compared to the ones that always just put it in front of them and a lot of those kids that always get it they always quit Jiu-Jitsu cuz it's too hard or they don't want to do the warm-ups and stuff and they sit on the side now and just go that's crazy that's so it's so wasteful so bad for you yeah it's just so dumb and you know I talk

about it but Then I did it the other night the other night I was going to go to bed it was 10:30 and I said I'm GNA go on stairs I'm going to go upstairs rather and just see what's going on online and so I got online I started watching YouTube videos then I went down to rabbit hole with the UFO disclosure and then it's like 3 hours later I'm like what am I doing go to bed that UFO smelling Sal the Rino or whatever that one the documentary I heard Virginia bra watch moment of

Contact crazy because you're just like either these guys are such good actors or they're a little bit crazy or they're [ __ ] just telling the truth it's so hard to know but that one cop when they bring that one cop to the site where the crash was and he starts crying yeah that's powerful like that I I just don't believe that that guy could be that good of an actor I mean that's a Daniel de Lewis performance right there that guy was killing it if he's really acting Like bro that was amazing yeah mean

you mean but there are people that are like that that are completely insane that can I mean how many people have lied about being attacked like you know Jesse smette style how many people have lied about things that have happened to them when nothing happened to them there there's people that know that there's a value there's like a social value in being a victim and so they will come up with stories about something terrible That happened to them and then then they came and they took me in their craft well Johnny Depp and Amber herd

I mean someone's [ __ ] lying like which one are you that show recently watched that on Netflix and I was just like it ah it's so wild expert actors black belt it was crazy to me the craziest one was when they knew that they were recording each other so they're having a conversation but it's so performative Johnny is just talking like this that's Actually very calm that's really good very calm he's a good dude man he looks up yeah I I'm text friends with him and I I was on the phone with him once

when some [ __ ] was going down with him before the trials and we had had this long conversation on the phone I was in Hawaii and uh Stan Hub he said hey Johnny wants to talk to you can we talk I said [ __ ] yeah so I'm sitting there and I I was I looked over my wife go I'm about to talk to Johnny Depp that's Crazy I'll be over here so we're just lounging at the pool drinking margaritas and I'm on the phone with Johnny Depp and he's talking like that yes is

he's a funny dude man he calls Elon Musk mollusk MK heon was B he [ __ ] playing [ __ ] he was El wants to he was apparently involved somehow or another with Amber herd damn that's [ __ ] sweet he putting babies out there left or right yeah I I'm kind of jealous of That how many do you want I mean in this reality maybe not as many is in my fantasy I want to I want I would love to have bunch of kids you're only 28 I know but I'm not the one

that has to get pregnant and deal with all that [ __ ] Danny is so true but I'm telling her I'm like can we have more baby mamas and she doesn't she's not too into that idea I would love to have a bunch of we were talking last night about the surrogate thing about how weird it is that people Farm off someone having their baby inside of them this just doesn't seem right it seems wild that's that's what it is well there so I feel like there's so important connection those nine months 10 months of

that baby being in there and just you holding your belly and you feeling it kick there's just how long does that take that Mom to recover from that just like there you go byebye well I told you about my neighbors I had these uh these uh uh Friends of mine that lived down the street this gay couple and uh they hired this lady to be the surrogate they pay her they do the whole thing they make sure she's got good nutrition and at the end of the year she's like eh I'm keeping the kid [

__ ] she's like was that lady married too I don't think so I think I think she was single I don't remember though but I just remember them being heartbroken because they were all they did eventually find another Surrogate and then now they do have a son now their son's older damn I've known them for like 15 20 years but that at that time it was like they were like so bummed out like they were gonna have a kid they ready yeah or one of them I think they just both jizz in a cup and

they [ __ ] s can you do that squirt mix it up yeah so you don't know whose jizz it is damn they us the thing that jizz that there was certain jizz that would kill other jizz that was killer Sperm there was this theory that got prop yeah there was it was like it was a theory that people were running with and a lot of people were talking about and then they someone reexamined it and said I don't think this is real like I don't think sperm has any ability to kill other sperm but

the idea was that like some of your loads were like Warriors and they would go out there and try to find the other loads in there and [ __ ] [ __ ] them up you know that's why your Dick is shaped that way the head of a penis is literally designed to plunge out the other sperm and pull it out so you think about the shape so you're the head of the penis is like this then it's got the lip right curve well that Co plunges in the lip gets all the other jizz Scoops

up back there because ladies back in the day were just getting nutted in yeah well the primate days I mean think about it if a female was trying to mate like one male would [ __ ] another Male would [ __ ] everybody would nobody knew whose baby it was cuz there was no sense of paternity it was just everybody [ __ ] everybody and so the penis was probably designed in like evolved in that way to act as like a plunger where you're like sucking out the other dude's jiz shoot in your own jizz

damn yeah I mean it's like it's an evolutionary trait of the the shape of the penis makes sense yeah it does make sense if you look at this like a shape of a and Then having like a little head so why is his Tims curved yeah somebody probably riding them and broke it penol fracture that's real My Buddy Joe rigs happened to my buddy Joe rigs Joe rigs the MMA fighter both lived with him at broke his dick y yep trying to be trying to be a hero of course he did pulling all the way

in pulling all the way out but guys you see Mariah went to visit her parents in Utah and it's a big Mormon country and when she was back in the Backwoods There was this old guy taking pictures with like 30 young girls in their dresses oh like man getting those girls on board with those beliefs early is them on board when they're young it's it's I mean look there's Cults but when there's a like when there's a religion when you know the guy who made it like Joseph Smith was a real con man he was

14 years old when he wrote all that stuff which one is that that Mormonism Mormonism yeah 14 yeah he said he found Golden tablets that contain the Lost work of Jesus and only he could read them because he had a magic Rock and then the Angels came and took the gold tablets away he said so when the towns people say where's the TBL like the Angels came and took them away what if though yeah what if yeah who's to say imagine if it was true yeah so he started it and all these years later it's

like but one of the weird things about Mormonism is like they if If it is a cult I guess it is they are the nicest [ __ ] cult members ever they're so nice mhm I know I don't I don't really know any Mormons oh I know a ton really yeah yeah I go to Utah a lot and I know a lot of them from there and I I know I had some neighbors that we were friends with back in La that were that were Mormons they were so nice and they know like it was

started by that dude when he was 14p deep into it they just they believe It I it's interesting we have this one family and uh they went a they left the country for like a year for their kids for their education and took them to to Europe and then when they came back they left the church they just not being there for a year they came back like this is kind of ridiculous but she was talking about it and she said one of the things that she recognized it's it makes her very vulnerable to like

charlatans and gurus and stuff like that because She was kind of programmed to always believe the preacher and program to always believe the church but she was kind of recognizing it in herself that she has this flaw in the way she views the world that's scary some of those guys are such like good talkers the one that the Waco guy here you see videos of him holy [ __ ] truly belied yeah Branch dividian yeah profet yeah and it's always this guy who [ __ ] everybody yeah and no one else gets to [ __

] him has to Be he [ __ ] everybody's wife see that's something I could get behind yeah yeah they only could [ __ ] him it's it's really wild though that that sort of style of running a group of people has always existed you know Mark andrees uh this uh very wealthy and famous Tech guy was on the podcast he was telling me there's like active Cults in California right now they're just successful I'm like really like how many on social media type stuff too I don't Think they go on social media probably kill

everything if they had that for sure you kind ofing stay fast and boost and keep moving if you're running a cult today that's Satan that's Satan stay off that crazy it's just this place that we almost had down here when you watch that documentary holy hell we were talking about this last night we always say is like the beginning of all cult movies it looks like they're great Dancing In The Water wild wild country was so good Books he's got a lot of good books yeah I love how he would [ __ ] wear Iced

Out watches take private democracy is by the people of the people for the people yeah he had me convinced the people are [ __ ] ever seen that yeah that [ __ ] is it was so that was so on point to see a guru saying find that video [ __ ] I [ __ ] love that video yeah that was a well-made documentary too yeah Wild Wild Country right see it wasn't him that was [ __ ] up though it was Sheila it was Lady means imagine getting him on the Pod and he does

this yeah i' deal with it by the people of the people for the people but the people are [ __ ] that's too good that's too good it goes on further but you get the point yeah he but also like if anybody seemed Like a guru it's that guy yeah his eyes like he looks like like a legit wise Guru and it seems like his like I've read one of his books too his ideas were very interesting and very legit deep yeah but what that what happened what went down in that town [ __ ]

that crazy they poison people yeah and then brought all the homeless in to vote for yeah so they [ __ ] took over the town and the homeless people like finally we've got a community they're like yeah we're done With you get the [ __ ] out of here that's crazy ship them back out yeah yeah Cults man it's it really is a strange thing that people want to follow this one person and you know this one person like leads this community and can't be challenged or questioned it's like man it's so much easier back

in the day without the socials yeah probably yeah yeah because you could just lie about stuff do you ever see the guy from uh Australia that said he was Jesus he's Like he literally says he's The Reincarnation of Jesus and this's this woman that's with him and uh he says that she's Mary and really believed that she was married and then she found out that there was another mared in the past that he had said this other girl was married and then they're like hey what about this other girl she says she was Mary like

that was a mistake that's what that's why she found out cu there was another Mary that was it I think I think That was a big one because then all of a sudden everybody was like wait a minute wait a minute he's like can you walk on water though yeah let me see you uh turn water into wine right it's weird a lot of religious people that they'll just look at the beliefs they won't look at who formed those beliefs and they like when did they they formed those beliefs and who was it like even

Jehovah's Witnesses like this Charles Taz Russell didn't even know Greek and he wrote this Whole new translation of the Bible and everyone got on board oh wow yeah yeah there's always people like that but I mean the original Bible itself like one of the weird things is the Dead Sea Scrolls which is the oldest versions of some of the stories in the Bible and they're different they're in Aramaic and it's like well should we all just read that now you know and it why are we going on the New Testament instead of the Old Testament

is the Old Testament The real thing like that doesn't make sense it's all I always wonder like where did it start what was the experience that led these people to write these these things down it makes sense if it was mushroom psychedelic like that makes the most sense people are [ __ ] tripping and seeing these stories and writing them down well that's Marcus aelius too you know I mean that was one of the more interesting things about diving deep into ancient Greek culture is that you find like this book uh the immortality key from

this guy Brian Mor rescu who found that the ucini Mysteries when they were all these people were coming to eluis from all over the world and taking part of these mystery ceremonies they never know what they were doing until recently and recently they started doing these tests on some of the vessels that they found the wine vessels and they were laced with psychedelics so now they know for Sure and they've opened up a field of study at Harvard and they're they're exploring this and they they're doing more testing and more studying they know that the

people that founded democracy were tripping balls wow which makes sense I think so you'd have to be tripping to say look instead of one person running things let's all vote let's all vote cuz nobody else is doing that yeah everybody was like off with their head the king is here lay down the Throne that's crazy it's one king running the show was there a point when you were super religious or not at all when I was little I was a little kid when I went to Catholic school when I was first grade but my the

nun that taught Catholic school was such a [ __ ] that it was like easy to realize that it wasn't real like I'd like lost all of my faith in organized religion when I was seven years old yeah and your parents weren't put putting on you no well my Parents split up when I was young and then my mom when my Mom married my stepdad my my stepdad was a hippie so it was like completely and then we lived in San Francisco from the time I was seven years old so it was like the height

of the Vietnam War the hippie movements in full bloom you know my stepdad had long hair we lived around all these just like counterculture people and that was uh like a big part of my upbringing from like 7 to 11 so there was no no religion Back then but I think religion is like a good scaffolding for people and I think there's there's something absolutely beautiful about a lot of the ideas of a lot of organized religions that really really benefit people but I also think it could be used as a tool to control people

like like almost everything my mom I feel like it's good for her just the community sense cuz she doesn't have like we go to the gym you go to The Green Room you go to The Comedy Store we Have a community to where she just believes in her religion so much because she gets this Joy from going to church because she's around the community yeah but she just it's so crazy she would look me dead in the eyes and tell me that her religion Christianity is the only religion all the other religions are made up

yeah and that Muslims will tell you the same thing yeah it's crazy yeah that's the problem it's like somebody's got to be wrong I wonder yeah Exactly I wonder who who the most most like wealthy religion what's the it's a latterday or what was it I looked it up recently actually Scientologist they own a lot of real estate they really yeah the Scientologist is an interesting one because they sued the federal government to get tax exempt status what yeah not only do they know who made that one but the guy who made that one was

a author not only is he an author he's the single Human being elron hubard who created Scientology and dtic he is the sing single most prolific author in human history he has wrote more words and more more books than any human being that's ever lived so he's got a creative mind he creates Scientology his books are terrible no way terrible this dude probably never had a second draft in his life they are so bad they're unbelievably stupid like punctuation just dumb just like Ramble On nonsense Here it goes the Catholic Church oh yeah they're the

they're the richest very definitely the institution with the highest wealth in the entire Globe has estimated the operational budget of theath globe says it there's a lot glob the dis never know the firmament yeah 170 billion that's a lot of money bro yeah and they got this little thing that you know the occasionally kids yeah it's only one out of every three though It's occasionally molestation that's crazy it's like the Catholic church is so inexorably connected to molestation that if you say Catholic priest people think a kids getting [ __ ] yep that's how crazy

it is that's [ __ ] insane that's insane there's not another thing on earth like that other than actual child molesters where you automatically have at least some Connection in your mind like if a Catholic priest says Hey I want your son To come over my house for a sleep like what what the [ __ ] are you talking about but if like a boxing coach is like Hey we're going to take some kids over the house for a sleepover we're going to take them on an early morning run you know and then we're going

to do this and we'll have them back to you by Saturday and the kids come back all laughing you know like like this guy's been doing this they've run camps everybody camps out Church camp it can happen it's normal but if it's a Catholic priest everybody goes what yeah you're going to be alone with the kids the [ __ ] you are that's crazy some religions too like if a kid says hey this guy this elder or whatever molest to me they have it in their their rules or whatever that there's need to be two

witnesses oh there needs to be two witnesses or didn't we're not taking precautions Jesus yeah yeah and the other thing about that is that it's Somehow or another a repeating cycle the people that get molested wind up molesting other people that's weird oh that they create the demons [ __ ] for real it's like a vampire thing like you're getting bit by a vampire oh it is yeah [ __ ] just [ __ ] you up for good [ __ ] you up for good have you guys been to Rome have you ever seen like

the Catholic church in the Vatican no it's insane the vatican's incredible I mean I can't imagine the amount of money And art that they have really it's so overwhelming like there's so much art they have like Priceless Pieces Just laying next to other Priceless pieces and you go on this tour through the Vatican of all the the art collection it's [ __ ] unfathomable art is it like the place in Abu Dhabi what was that place called The the big uh where we wore our suits too and got a tour of the church that was

the the Muslim Center I don't remember what it was Called you know what I'm talking about big churches one of the [ __ ] the biggest ever I thought you where they go and pray and they [ __ ] it's some mosque mosque the mosque the MOS was like that was that was like powerful you walk in there you know I was almost Muslim like that yeah think well that's one of the ways that people do get converted just by the gorgeousness of it is this it yeah it's part of it it's [ __ ]

insane I don't so the the Vatican though that's like an older building well the Vatican is essentially a a a country it's actually a country inside of Rome so that's one of the ways they keep the child molesters is they can't they can't like extradite them they can't like what yeah yeah so some high up they'll hide them they'll hide people in the Vatican what the Vatican is like I think it's like 100 acres or something like that and it's inside the Catholic Church's control so it's like a country inside the city oh yeah yeah

a lot of security it's the country inside the city of Rome essentially d w you still haven't been to the pyramids right no I haven't either is there is there like a lot of uh tourism like I remember seeing like there's the pyramids but if you like pan this way there's like a hotel and like yeah those are four seasons and you look out the Four Seasons you see the Pyramids in Giza CRA that's wild I'm I'm G to get there but it was this summer we were trying to figure out if we're going to

go to Egypt and Greece or just Greece and so we chose to just go to Greece and Greece was incredible been there when you you go see the Parthenon you're like oh my God this is 2,500 years old and probably older because they built it upon an existing structure the the Acropolis and they don't know how old that is Jesus like that's all Kind of been there for thousands of years before that was that a good age to bring your daughters yeah they enjoyed it I mean I think any age is a good age to

get kids to see different things different cultures mean I've been traveling with my kids since they were really little to have we took them to other countries when they're like two years old just a plane ride yeah plane ride is a bummer but with kids dude you give them a [ __ ] iPad with some Movies they just chill give them snacks they're little so seats don't a little heroin seats don't bother them cuz they're little so they can just sit in that seat [ __ ] chill iPads amazing battery life yeah you watch [

__ ] seven movies in a row next thing you know you're in Italy speaking of heroin you had that one doc Dr car Carl Hart Yeah Carl Hart on and we I listened to that and then we did a podcast on ours and uh it got clipped the I was like Yeah I would probably do some heroin with him like and it got clipped up all everywhere me promoting heroin and doing heroin and stuff it was pretty funny um but that was a [ __ ] interesting one he's fascinating he's a fascinating guy very fascinating

yeah he had a very interesting outlook on drugs well you know he was a straight laac guy who didn't do any drugs at all until he became a researcher and then when he was a clinical researcher he realiz he's a Professor at Columbia and he realized when he was doing research like oh our perceptions of the effects of drugs are all just a lot of propaganda and [ __ ] and a lot of the problem is like impure drugs drug abuse of these drugs like Molly and stuff like Molly heroin yeah like cocaine candy it's

not yeah candy is the worst drug of them M for little kid just kids for like giving them [ __ ] Sour Patch Kids and Skittles and they're just [ __ ] geed Out on sugar for a little bit or it's okay for like a 350 lb person who's clearly going to die from a heart attack to go into a gas station load up on the ice cream load up on the candy and head out killing themselves yeah they're killing themselves there's a lot of people killing themselves in this country with food but the drug

one was just I always thought that was interesting cuz I was terrified of marijuana growing up my dad was a cop my Mom was a nurse it was just in my head that this is just [ __ ] poison bad for let's try it this [ __ ] made me put a joint in my mouth [ __ ] lit it well we' be we'd be training twice a day and he'd come home and still be like let's go do something and just be jacked up I be like bro there's a lot of good athletes smoking

this weed just try it dude cuz I had so much energy I'd train in the morning I'd be 19 years old moved down to Phoenix train in the morning Train at night he him and his buddy are chilling we're at the apartment I'm just like wanting to do something so I took a puff and I [ __ ] chilled out for a little bit I changed my life I was able to cuz I it's hard you know to [ __ ] get into that state but now it's a lot easier I mean some people who

do it though and then just every time something's going on and they just smoke and then they're just lazy I think it's bad for a lot of people yeah I agree I Think some people are just lazy and if you give them weed and blame it on the weed yeah for sure it doesn't make me lazy it makes me the opposite if I smoke weed and I haven't done the things I need to do I go oh God I got to go to work yeah same start freaking I like that paranoia it makes me start

thinking about what I got got to [ __ ] I got to dial in my diet I got to [ __ ] I got to make I got to get to the gym I got to train it gives me that anxiety like oh [ __ ] I'm the champ I got to [ __ ] I got to do everything right it gives me that paranoia do you know there's a thing that people say commonly that when someone becomes a champion they almost get 30% better just because of being a champion do you feel like that's

going to happen to you I feel like I felt that after I beat Alfred in my first my Contender series fight I felt like I won I just felt like I got way better just cuz I Had just bought fought of the biggest name biggest fight um I don't know I I feel like I I don't know I feel like I have a lot of work to do I need to get back to the gym as [ __ ] fast as possible but knowing how big of a beast alga was and knowing that you sat

him down with the right hand how much confidence is that it wasn't even the the more of the confidence I got was just not getting takeen down he had me up against the Fence where he wanted me twice couldn't take me down knocking him out I knew I could do that the question was can I not get taken down he took Henry down four times he had me up against the fence exactly where he wanted me and he couldn't take me down that's where I got my most confidence from for sure knocking him out I

I I felt like I knew I could do that it's such a big advantage to being a really good Striker because if your whole thing is you have To close a distance and clinch with someone and you're a good Striker but you don't it's not your thing like you're not just looking to put it on somebody it's like you're using as a tool to en enact your skill set yeah to have that [ __ ] the one shot also for marketing like how many times have people seen that Eddie wiland knock that one is CRA

that's one of my favorite that one and that's the way he slept it was at the Apex it was quiet you just Hear and you hear him going he was snoring that was crazy who's the last person in like the smaller weight class of Divisions to One-Shot KO people to win the belt even by KO to walk off and KO people though has there ever H uh well Marlin one shot K's people and Cory's one one shot KO people with knees with knees and stuff yeah yeah yeah but with like one straight right hand yeah

no but I feel like yeah once I get back to real training these I'm Really hoping these stem cells [ __ ] just yeah it's going to help I'm optimistic optim and by the way you can come back once a month and keep getting shot up yeah Bram was a man very knowledgeable dude waste a well that was [ __ ] super knowledgeable and they stack a bunch of different things together they're going be beneficial and he's always on the latest studies and he he's also got this incredible memory so you talk to him about

he can relay all The information a very dissolvable way and they do peptides and everything there everything everything sweet I'm all about the peptides i' I've been you know I we were talking about this last night as well that the UFC is trying to allow people to take peptides again specifically bpc157 which just helps you heal I mean that's really what it's about it it just helps tissue soft tissue damage repair quicker God that would be what about the ipom moral in The CJC that does does not help with joints and ligaments and bone density

yes it does and it also promotes uh human growth hormone yeah and that that would be beneficial as well you know you you look I just think this whole idea of Purity is horseshit because there's not the Purity in sport in terms of like supplementation are you allowed to take creatine you are okay well creatine is in a performance enhancing substance 100% absolutely it's not just physically Enhancing creatine is cognitively enhancing there's a some great benefits to supplementing with creatine and then there's also your stacking BCAAs your branch chain amino acids it's going to give

you a benefit those are supplements you're getting it from a supplemental form instead of from your food and you're getting it on top of your food you're stacking it you're doing with a bunch of other stuff you're taking beta alanine before you exercise that's Performance enhancing if you take Corps mushrooms Corps mushrooms like on it shroom Tech 100% helps you hit an extra gear when you're training you know there's a lot of pre-workouts that are legal there's a lot of stuff that's legal that is 100% performance enhancing I think what we have to keep people

doing is doing super natural levels of testosterone and growth hormone and things that allowed like vtor Belford to become Trt that's yeah Alistar that's but even that it's like listen if anybody should be able to [ __ ] do that it's guys who fighting a cage for a living if anybody should be able to do that to like be at their Prime as long as they weigh 135 pounds when they [ __ ] step on that scale I think we're we're we're wrapped around this idea of cheating I think we should be wrapped around this

idea of optimizing and I think optimization should be the most important thing yeah I mean if you're 35 36 37 in the UFC you've been competing in the UFC for 10 years and you're not allowed to just do any of these peptides you're not allowed to do any of this you go to the get your blood work and the doctor's like hey you're lacking in these areas you this could benefit your life yeah it change your ability to train change your performances inside the Octagon change your ability to recover just being able to recover and

Train like I haven't trained in the last few weeks and it's oh it's crazy well this is the thing about Jiu-Jitsu right Jiu-Jitsu spe specifically like Abu Dhabi which is the Premier Jiu-Jitsu organization they don't test for steroids and and everybody openly takes steroids yep and so this is how they're able to compete with guys like when you're at that level like Gordon Ryan level Gordon is open about steroid use he he trains three 165 days a year how Are you going to do that yeah if you're not Juiced up no chance how are you

going to recover how are you recovering you your weightlifting in the morning and then you're doing Jiu-Jitsu at night every day 365 days a year [ __ ] that' be nice P train like that that's the way you train like that you train like that on juice and if you do you become I mean if you also are super intelligent super dedicated and you have John Don her in your corner you become Gordon Ryan at 27 Which is just Bonkers insane greatest of all time hands down consensus no one's arguing yeah 2 then you get

to see two of those gorillas go at it like Andre galvo and those adccs like it's [ __ ] sweet imagine if kids like I mean k Rolo and tyo those guys on that stuff would be [ __ ] a nightmare well you know what though they're not they're so young they shouldn't be on anything yeah like don't ruin your [ __ ] endocrine system they're competing at such a high level Without it but as time goes on you know like even guys are 19 20 when you hit 23 24 my [ __ ] shoulder

my back my ribs like how many Jiu-Jitsu guys do you know that have [ __ ] up backs yeah all of everybody [ __ ] up necks [ __ ] up backs mhm do you do anything for your neck like you do iron neck or anything I mean God my neck I I feel like my posture is like a little [ __ ] up so I've always had like good really good Guillotine defense and [ __ ] but I don't Know my neck is took a beaten but it feels pretty strong and not too bad

but my back [ __ ] gets [ __ ] up from wrestling a lot do you ever do things specifically to strengthen your neck not really just wrestle dude get an iron neck we might have one here that'll give you guys this the [ __ ] greatest invention ever for working out your neck really you ever use it we have it here I'll show it to you after show is that what keeps your posture so sharp mine Yeah I'm just cognizant of it cuz I have bad posture my but you just keep this [ __

] Halo on your head and it's got a bungee core and you back up like this it's like a 50b bungee cord and then you do this sets [ __ ] that's it right there I'll show it to you guys that we have it in the gym wrestling definitely people hanging on your neck though if you're doing [ __ ] five six rounds and you're wrest that's That's my favorite practice 100% not even close to anything else grappling going live from the feet we have such good wrestlers at our gym too why is that your

favorite just it's [ __ ] exhausting it's uh I I love hitting people in takedowns it's it's there there's a high it's almost like knocking someone out not quite as good but you hit a little duck on somebody and you score on them it's [ __ ] fun I feel good when I do that um but yeah but People hanging on your neck especially when you got you're going with these college wrestlers like Bryce Meredith when he [ __ ] snaps your head down you're [ __ ] trying to keep your posture up yeah three

time D1 All-American like two-time NCAA finalist like they're different level wrestlers yeah and they it's it's fun going with those high ass level wrestlers it's [ __ ] it's humbling it's [ __ ] but yeah that's my favorite practice those Are those are my favorite you don't see wrestlers like going well how old is Jordan Burrows actually cuz he's been wrestling at that high level 36 [ __ ] is he really oh [ __ ] and he's still at the top of the food CH what a freak was jordan5 35 and to practice like that

wrestling's [ __ ] brutal and 100% natural cuz he's getting DED all the time damn that's impressive he wouldn't even drink one of these I offered him a CBD kill cliff and he was like what's in There I go CBD he's like I can't I don't think I can I might I might pop for something I'm like this like this is not going to make you pop for any of these like I can't take a chance the trickiest [ __ ] with with that what I've learned from my experiences like this one doesn't say it

but if it said dietary supplement on the back or on the bottom and if it says uh supplemental facts instead of nutrition facts that's when you can't take it in less it's third Party tested so like a Celsius says dietary supplement on the bottom and it doesn't say it's not third party tested so that you could you could test positive for that oh well I guarantee you if you drink kill Cliffs those are good is just vitamins and minerals and [ __ ] but certain drinks you got to be so [ __ ] careful he

grabbed these Gummies at at the store the other day these veggie gummies and he's like do you want one I looked at The bag and on the bottom it says dietary supplement and I can't have if you're in the usad pool you cannot have anything that says dietary supplement that is not third party tested because you could [ __ ] test for something that makes sense it's [ __ ] is it like a deal they have with the usada is it like a certain year deal or is it they just pay him yearly for it

UFC yeah I'm not sure I'd pay him off hey pH it's enough it's enough I Think we proved our Point yeah it's crazy yeah I mean some of the guys that got caught weren't even from usada like TJ wasn't from us I think it was an athletic commission um yeah but you know who I can't wait to see climb up too is Bo nickel like Bo nickel vers kot Bo nickel vers strick yeah man that's going to be and he's got [ __ ] hands too that's what's interesting he's such an athlete yeah you know

he's that next [ __ ] breed Yep yeah very interesting to watch see what happens with that guy he's a big elk Hunter is he yeah big bow hunter man yeah he seems like an interesting dude he seems like he's just doing everything right that's one thing dedicated he's living like a champion that's where I feel like I was doing before all these guys before like when I was young in the I was living like a champion I was pretending I am a champ and I have you Know defend the belt I got to and

and a lot of these guys don't a lot what a crazy Premiere you had like what that showed the world who you were with [ __ ] Snoop Dogg and your R fa doing commentary and really there's no other opportunity for that to happen because they don't even do that anymore yeah one season I was on the first season they did it everyone I mean Snoop got a lot of hate and like for that so I don't think they did back had him back on Again but yeah I luck the [ __ ] out that

right there went so and he posted on his IG a bunch he sent me a text after the fight you did it [Music] nephew look at that there's one guy how skinny I this is so funny bro [Laughter] get he still calls me suar Shane sometimes oh that's amazing oh that is Funny I think he called you that on the podcast he does he still does he's amazing he one of those he's one of those guys that kind of almost weirded me out that he was here really he's like I'm hanging out with Snoop Dog

and he's like we're talking and he's rolling blunts he's just sitting there rolling blunts I'm like oh my God I'm smoking we with Snoop Dog like this is so crazy this is so crazy that dude's connected he's he's a great guy too just a great Guy yeah those and again a [ __ ] real Hustler been around forever him and Shaq yeah him and Shaquille O'Neal are [ __ ] business yeah yeah I love that smart does it motivate you being around him too is he one of those guys that or is he justno like

you'd think he'd be he's just very nice very friendly and very chill and cool to be around he gave me a bunch of gifts gave me some cool jackets he gave death Ro chain I saw that yeah he's just [ __ ] awesome man It's just damn it's just weird to be around like it's weird to be on C around certain iconic people like got Quinton Tarantino in here I'm like that's Quinton tar really Quinton Tarantino you know I luckily I'd met him one other night I met him at The Comedy Store one night he

actually saw me perform and he came up to me he goes dude you [ __ ] killed that was awesome and I'm like holy [ __ ] that's Quinn Tarantino this is Quinn Tarantino I mean I remember being just moving to LA and I was with this girl that I dated and we went to see uh at the man's Chinese Theater we went to see Pulp Fiction and I remember sitting in that movie go what kind of [ __ ] movie is this this movie is so wild I don't think I've seen that have you

you never seen Pulp Fiction he hasn't seen any I don't know who Quint Tarantino is don't know who Quint Tarantino is I don't know [ __ ] about like you don't know like the hateful Aid Or Dango or none of that no Jackie Brown nothing nothing oh my God you have so many good movies movies to see Kill Bill I've heard of Kill Bill but I don't know what it is what do you do for time you like playing video games I I quit after the Peter yaon fight I quit really yeah I was like

I'm [ __ ] I'm fighting for the belt I'm [ __ ] using this those a couple hours a day to recover or train more quck gaming yeah after that peton fight yeah man it'll suck that time baby It's so fun and it's a lot of energy hour and a half a day though with the boys where you can just let loose you feel like you're in War I [ __ ] love give it enough little bit of heroin never did anybody wrong it relaxes me at the end of the day yep imagine know if

you've never seen a Tarantino movie and someone's like hey check these out on Netflix you got some [ __ ] to watch oh yeah as a would it be fun bro bro you've Got some [ __ ] movies to see you got some movies what years are they like old old well they started '94 that's fiction yeah so start there okay Pulp Fiction's [ __ ] amazing or Reservoir dogs that was his first one that's [ __ ] incredible he's the actor or he producer no well he he sometimes has small roles in some of

his movies but he directs produces writes in him he's the [ __ ] man I mean he's never made a bad movie he he himself is responsible for some of The greatest movies of all time that's a crazy [ __ ] skill yeah and he won't he won't do but 10 he's going to do 10 movies he's done nine so far he's trying to figure out what his 10th movie is and then he's done really yep he's thinking then I'm done so he writes everyone's lines I'm I'm sure WR everything what that's such a crazy

[ __ ] you didn't see once upon a time in Hollywood uhuh oh my God it's good God damn so he got nine movies I need to watch nine bangers he Didn't have one movie that I watched I really that's so crazy not one all of them are wild all of them are hyper violent oh to the point where you're like Jesus Once Upon a Time in Hollywood it's like he's grandfathered in cuz there's this the grand it's about the Manson family and uh Brad Pit spoiler alert yeah Brad Pit is the the hero in

this movie and there's a scene where he uh kills a woman smashing her head against a fireplace Jesus and You're like this is the hero of the movie who's doing like and I was watching this going Tarantino's grandfathered in to make this kind of movie nobody else can make this kind of movie today in this in this climate it's just too [ __ ] up damn Sean's never even seen Wolf of Wall Street not yet it's a great movie too I'm nervous it's good it's great movie I just know I might that's might send me

downhill no jokes maybe I can see how people do that Though start making a lot of money get opportunity to go travel you go to the club he [ __ ] fun chicks well also if you're a stock broker like your whole game is about making money well why are you making money if you're not spending it and if you're going to spend it you're going to SP you're going to spend it in extravagant wild crazy ways because that's the thrill to have that money and to that you're you're [ __ ] in that hedonistic

snort and Coke Lifestyle ah God and another life buying watches and [ __ ] you have a little watch collection yeah I do um but I like functional watches more than like baller diamond and crusted [ __ ] I like like tool watches I like dive watches like like Grand seikos and Rolexes and [ __ ] like that yeah you have some nice Rolexes to see when you're uh doing the UFC and stuff yeah when I do the UFC I wear a nice watch but like this is a Garin I wear this this is my

watch I wear when I'm hunting [ __ ] whole another H the watch world yeah the watch World's a whole another world yeah people could drop some serious cheddar on those watch oh dud are Runing around like Edge shearan he was uh running around uh and someone said that's a half a million dollar watch he's got on I'm like okay dead Okay [ __ ] redhe heads yeah what kind of watch you wearing there Sean I'm wearing a Richard is it Richard M rard M oh dude you went baller yeah at a ball woo that's

not even the strong one the strong one's over with Jamie Jamie's got the strong one that would May me cry I Chuck the strong one towards you no oh my god let's [ __ ] go holy [ __ ] that's powerful my eyes are watering oh I just had to oh no no no no oh I just had an urge to just hit it real Quick yeah oh my God it get in there gets in your blood when we leave those around the the uh The Comedy Club Green Room you always like last night everybody's

hitting it yeah I don't even mean to just happened well you see people do like I want to try I want to try I want to try oh yeah I wanted I always wanted to try after seeing you guys hit it on the Pod I'm like God I got to rip them are they allowed to do that in boxing anymore cuz they used to Do that where they would give them in between rounds to wake them up imagine you get cracked and you're like oh I'm good yeah no [ __ ] I wonder if that'll

do it I don't know if the commissions would allow it it's banned yeah commission I wonder why is it a performance enhancer or is just just dangerous well after Panama Lewis um holy [ __ ] gave Aaron prior uh something some unknown substance in between rounds against Alexis aruo Panama Lewis was like known For cheating like it was a big part like he's a like a known bad guy and he gave uh he gave Aaron prior this he goes give me another bottle no the one I mixed oh and he gives it to him and

he gives to Aaron Pryor who was a known he had known Coke problems oh improper use of smelling salt it's a growing concern among look at that guy's eyes did they find out what was in his drink says 0 80% of NFL players are known to use it 80% what's the problem yeah I wonder if Like if well that's I've seen the the biggest oh look at this [ __ ] trauma patients often suffer neck injuries that may be undetected the first response to a noxious smell to sudden you jerk the head away from the

stimulus this can result in a dis dislocating an injured spine and potential paraly yeah I can see that [ __ ] well I could see if you had a hurt neck but if you did have a hurt neck like if you got KO and football clashed and your head's [ __ ] up and they give you a smell you start you like yeah and you don't realize your neck's jacked and you I could see that but in other circumstances like that's like 1% chance yeah like if you get dinged with an uppercut and they in

between rounds they give you that like they band them I'm fighting because they can hide concussion symptoms jack up you would know you're [ __ ] up oh that's what this says it says in the 70s they were eventually banned I could see that though I kind of just [ __ ] put you in the but is it better to just go out and still be concussed and fight because people are always concussed and fighting that's very good point I mean think about Snoop I mean Ste excuse me think about uh excuse me uh like

how many times is a fighter been cracked early in a fight and then you see they're still dealing with that later in the fight and then afterwards they don't Even remember the fight yeah a lot that happens often times right like that person's concussed yeah it happens all the time guys win fights and they're concussed and they're like you know after the second round I was on autopilot and I went back to my corner I said what round is it they're like round five I'm like what yeah how's this round five like okay adna versus

Strickland that first round when he got correct yeah High likelihood of concussion 100% Chance 100% chance I mean he got dropped spun around and then one two three how many left hands did he hit him with like probably 20 clean at least a bunch were clean you got to think he's dinged after that fight and when you only said his arms felt like rubber and like how much of that was a factor yeah could easily been a factor when they said it didn't look like him in there maybe that's why I mean it easily could

be from that most Likely especially he shows up every time yeah that [ __ ] hits him right back and I'm back yeah oh you have to put a little on your finger next fight just in case go yeah just have some you know would you's Tom Brady doing it TV known for doing it oh really I bet he is I bet he's known for doing every goddamn thing that works yeah I just listened to him on the pbd Pod oh he was on that yeah he was on that interesting guy but that was good

playing at that High level for that long and like being just taking care of his body I like listening to that [ __ ] you have to be insanely smart yeah to be a quarterback that's the craziest [ __ ] position in like all sports I feel like know so much about what's going on I went to my first NFL game two weeks ago were on the were you like in the suite or did you were you able go on fi on the 50 yard line that's like front row 50 yard line changes it when

it's that close insane You think of it it was incredible so fun it's so fun can't watch it on TV and then there's like 880,000 people in there and everyone's going nuts when they're cheering and it's in Dallas and the Cowboys are playing m w those players just look like dinosaurs marching off the field oh my God dudes are so [ __ ] huge they're so massive yeah you know which it's kind of weird that the UFC has a 265lb weight limit isn't it yeah I feel like there's There's a whole another ball game if

you open up that 265 plus which is good a super heavyweight division but who would do it because everyone is preparing to be 265 right so like who you would have to develop your your tent outside where they have a super heavyweight Division and I don't know of anybody that has one UFC could probably figure FC have a weight limit on their heavyweights I'm not even sure that's a good question Google that Jamie does 1fc Have a 265 lb weight Li know when I looked this up the other day I couldn't find the last Super

heavyweight fight was like in 2018 remember the pride ones with like that dude D hung Choy the seven foot guy fighting Fedor oh yeah when they'd have those super matches yeah yeah they had crazy fights over in Pride I'm so glad there's weight classes oh my God that would not be that would not be fun UFC W [ __ ] I would have been [ __ ] if you have your skills now Though you you might not be [ __ ] way back 265 also that 1 FC is 265 also that's such a weird number

why is that a boxing thing or no no not at all wait boxing doesn't have a weight doesn't have the way Tyson Fury is like 280 290 sometimes fights yeah I feel like I'm morec excited for the I'm I'm excited for that fight but I feel like I'm more excited for Dylan versus Logan and KSI versus Tommy are you really I don't know why I just keep forgetting about I feel Like they're promoting it very well I'm seeing it all over and then I'm not really seeing Francis versus Tyson all over as much as I'm

seeing the other ones that's interesting I'm not paying attention at all to the Dylan versus Logan thing other than the online drama occasionally someone sent it to me but I try to avoid all that stuff I don't want talking about [ __ ] up his girlfriend like come on Al I'm getting a new number when I get my new number I'm not putting Any apps on my phone smart I'm going to keep this phone and just have apps on that phone and just every now and then when I have to post or something like that

I'll post but my new phone no apps I just it's too much do you have a good time scrolling on Instagram though seeing like bow hunting stuff yeah yeah if I can curate it correctly but it's too late I follow like 5,000 people cuz I'm I'm you know if I someone post something I think is funny or something I like I go follow why it's not going to hurt me to follow them so I follow so many people and then the algorithm Recs people that I don't follow and things I don't follow and so many

of those are murder and but on Insta animal attacks butt cheeks yeah but that's normal me you could find sex online I mean that's it's like onethird of internet traffic if you seek it out but but in the Instagram feed when I'm not even look at I'm seeing people get Killed by Bulls like Jesus I don't see any of that up high bro my algorithm's a mess yeah it's all muscle cars and people getting killed and people getting knocked unconscious how how crazy is that [ __ ] X plaid or just the Plaid Tesla it's

insane I got pulled over again I have one I got pulled over again in the literally the exact so right before I went to Boston a couple days before Boston I got pulled over on the Highway and pulled in the same neighborhood and [ __ ] right before I got here got pulled over same same Highway same neighborhood same cop I'm like [ __ ] so I got would deal with that when I get home but those X's are [ __ ] insane they're so fast they're so fast even on the highway you're going 90

it's just like feels like you're going 60 it makes no sound yeah and when you merge you don't feel like a douchebag CU if I merge in my Porsche It's like like I feel like a [ __ ] but I'm faster than that in the Plaid no sound just yeah for real it's like defies time it it just time tra just the way they move it's 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds for a four-door sedan stupid Bonkers so stupid and wait until he comes out with that little one I'm excited that little two the two

door the the Roadster that thing's going to be 1.5 1.7 0 to 60 jesz and it's going to handle because all the weight's going to be at the bottom because that's where the weight of the batteries is Jesus so it's like a beautiful center of gravity those cars have phenomenal center of gravity yeah hoping I don't get my license suspended are you worried no I I feel like if I am I'll just [ __ ] sell all my cars get a sprinter van and have my hire my dad to drive me around fulltime so I'm

not too worried about it But I'd rather not how many tickets do you have I've only got a couple but two in from the how many are from the Lamborghini none Zero from the lambo Zero from I got the new Corvette none from that it's always in the Tesla always in the [ __ ] Tesla going on the highway going too fast it's just too easy to Cru those I like I just don't feel like that's too fast like it's just not it's like a good speed 90 is okay it isn't that thing I Think

for certain people not for an old grandma but I'm [ __ ] alert I'm watching you're a pro athlete I I should be to go 90 I'm I'm see what I can do about that talk to the suar State athletic commission why why why do they even make cars that go so fast where it's illegal to drive because it's kind of like they have to do it why are they making computers unless you're doing what Jamie does or you doing video editing or something like that or Playing like insane computer games why do you need

that much processing power but but every year the new one comes out you want the new thing and when people look at 0 to 60 numbers that's like a thing they all look at what is it yeah the new BMW M5 oh 0 to 60 and 3.2 how are you are you really going 0 to 60 that fast like what you [ __ ] psycho didn't they have a new test a new electric Lucid or some [ __ ] that's faster than the 1.9 I don't believe so I Don't believe the Lucid is faster but

there is a superar that is faster than that it's an electric $2 million superar that somebody makes that's [ __ ] insane Jesus the new electric Ferraris look so the fastest thing that I've ever been in by far though is John Hennessy's Venom John Hennessy do you know who he is is that he's this psychotic Texas tuner guy who takes like I have a a ram I [ __ ] love it I have a ram TRX even a stock Ram TRX is the best truck I've Ever driven they're [ __ ] great it's comfortable it's

got a very compliant suspension and it's crazy off-road capable I mean those things you can Baja racing those [ __ ] and he takes that and he makes it a th000 horsepower it comes from the factory it's 700 7even something and he cranks it up to a thousand so it's a it's a giant Ram truck that goes 0 to 60 and like three and a half seconds what's the Venom the Venom is his super car it's all car Carbon fiber and it's 2,000 horsepower called the Venom yeah dude it's what's the 060 CH scroll back

up sweet so it goes 250 M an hour it costs $2.5 million that's the what has looked like that he went in yeah he brought it here Jes you look at it and you just go oh my god do they make any other cars or they just like he makes a bunch of [ __ ] but this is a totally made in Factory car what he does with most stuff is Tunes them this thing is so insane I Mean and he took me for a ride in it I was terrified Fu faster than the plaids

yeah what yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot faster is it electric no gas and it sounds like a demon that thing's [ __ ] sexy it's so sexy if you seen in real life it's incredible it's incredible but it's just like Jesus Christ that's the fastest thing I've ever been in yeah that thing's nuts I mean it's literally like a race car you think about treating Yourself to one yeah that's dangerous I don't if I want to go fast I'll take the plaid and if I want to have fun I'll take a

muscle car I like muscle cars the r about the sound I never was a sound guy either but I do like the sound of it like a bro I'll let you drive one of mine one of the real ones it's like got a fully independent suspension see this guy driving it on the Autobon yeah the Tesla [ __ ] tops he goes so fast he's Going that's no that's kilome yeah yeah but still I was like Jesus but what is like what's 260 km whatever up to top speed is over 200 mes hour yeah they're

fast as [ __ ] [ __ ] it's just how fast it gets to 60 that's so Bonk yeah I [ __ ] love stepping on that my little princess too she when she's in the back and I step on a little bit she goes she loves it she's faster I taught my 15-year-old how to drive in that really yeah that's fun with it on Ludicrous mode it's always on ludicrous I never take it off but I I taught her how to drive in that it's it's easy to control that's the difference between that and

like other high power cars you can drive in that very slowly easily it's not hard to do it's like the perfect car to drive out like for a commuter car it's the best car ever I take it more than anything I love that car I'm always taking that or I take the ram it's weird when you drive the Teslas Too with the regenerative braking then get in a different car it's like what the [ __ ] is weird right you're used to just driving with one pedal yeah you know letting it slow itself down or

if you're on cruise control in a different car and you forget that it doesn't slow down when you get behind someone [ __ ] else hit them when you hit that and it's like stays in the lanes D so nice I need to use it [ __ ] more because apparently God so how many tickets have you gotten just like two within the last couple months but this [ __ ] got three within like or no you got that last one you didn't get a ticket cuz the cop knew you but uh this [ __

] was just in the same position I was in you had to go to court and everything too I got to go drive Tim just the model 3 Tesla yeah fast as [ __ ] too [ __ ] love it I love it that's a that's a great car for the value yeah oh my God I was at I was at a Red light and I was right and I was in my GT3 R which sounds [ __ ] insane and this this model 3 just went took off ahead of me I was like I'm

not even going to try yeah you [ __ ] silently in you know this kind of an economy car MH yeah yeah for the price those things are [ __ ] incredible perfect car incredible yeah and if you have a charger at your house it's the [ __ ] yeah yeah just plug it in your House you never have to go to the gas station you know those sketchy moments where you're coming home and it's 1:00 in the morning you're on E like [ __ ] I want to get gas but I don't want to

[ __ ] pull into some weird station and get car jacked right you know [ __ ] yeah you see too many videos I mean especially in a busy City the H Lane when you can just click that self drive and it sit back that's nice have a jack sucks yeah youve seen people Falling asleep in those things in traffic they're asleep in their car the car [ __ ] terrifying I couldn't do that but those [ __ ] probably worked for 10 hours there a lot of Silicone Valley people just on their last Edge

last [ __ ] ran out of atols yeah yeah yeah we still haven't been to a bies we keep hearing about bies oh I talked about it last night you got to go we went to HB thinking it's bies and we're like oh HB is going to be sweet Yeah I didn't think it was going to be a bu I knew the difference but you keep hearing about HB I kept hearing I kill Tony they talk about it talk about it talk I'm like I got to go we go and I'm like what the [

__ ] we thought it was like a Whole Foods we thought it was like a whole food we thought it was be like a nice organic Whole Foods or some [ __ ] no yeah to Whole Foods there's a place called Central Market that's actually better than Whole Foods Central Market's great it's like an advanced whole yeah yeah but it's also like an advanced Whole Foods it's like Whole Foods but even better it's great that place is great out here but hp's is a good nice Supermarket but bu experience man you can buy tents at

bies yeah we fishing equipment [ __ ] bies is nuts it's it's so big like you're talking about like hundreds of pumps you like you sit there like what is going on it's like a parking lot Filled with pumps that's badass yeah makes sense your bit when you said what it's just Texas makes sense yeah you usually do instacart or you go shopping or your wife what do you mean like when you get groceries and stuff what's instacart instacart's like a new app you can just go to whatever store click it in your thing and

they'll deliver it right to your door n go shopping yeah let's push a [ __ ] cart around say hi to people yeah yeah yeah do is it Constantly pictures or people kind of leave a little bit alone mostly they leave me alone people out here are they're friendly yeah it's not like uh it doesn't feel douchy you know it's like they're just folks yeah shopping fans too listen to pod some are cool and most people are just nice they come over hey like your show yeah thank you it's nice no big deal yeah that

is nice that's how I feel like it is out kind of in Arizona where we're at out there but One thing does happen to people it's going to happen to you too is like as you get more and more famous sometimes people get anxiety about social circumstances just because you don't want to get bothered yeah I felt that before yeah where I'm like God just like I want to go take a pee I'm at a restaurant like I don't really want to walk past people and then go in the bathroom and in there and like

especially you cuz you're so Identifiable that's yeah and then I'm trying to go and then I try to go like Incognito and I have like seven sh I have like a sugar hat with a sugar shirt and sugar shorts I'm like that didn't work my hair is [ __ ] pink all your cars are like flashy cars I know [ __ ] yeah what come on man you're a star yeah that's how you got to do it hey how did you pick that song that you came out to cuz it was the Perfect song I

picked it uh it's funny I you've listened that Song for a long time um but I I played it in Abu Dhabi I knew it wouldn't be a banger in Abu Dhabi because it's just different cultural the pay-per-view I knew it wasn't going to be too good but for me I was like this is this is my moment I'm going to walk out to it I actually walked out to it too um when I fought Jose kones so after I broke my foot when I came back I walked out to it in Vegas at T-Mobile

um then I went away for from it for a little bit but I knew That was going to [ __ ] just you got a song in mind for the rematch with Cheeto I don't there there I do have a different song in mind but I also might stick with Superstar it's a good one man it's a good one and there's a thing that happens with certain Fighters where when they they play a song people get used to it yeah you knowah Faber used to come out to oh yeah Jose Aldo Chris Wiman CH Even

yeah there's a thing with Fighters with a song with Anderson Silva he No Sunshine When Jesus oh he he walked out of that when J Jones comes out The champ is here The champ that's a good one Matt hughes's song Country Boy Can't Survive that was the greatest one that was the greatest one cuz at the time you know when Matt was the [ __ ] man and he would come out to that song yeah it was pimp yeah it's s a great opening line to The preacher man says it's the end of time yeah

the walkouts being there in that that uh being at a UFC fight there's just something about those walkouts dude that moment everyone's just looking right at that tunnel waiting but it's so weird because even it's the most calm I ever am in my life is in those in that moment before we walk really even in the back but I'm at a I'm just calm and and you know what's really cool is the documentary crew is Following me around this last fight UFC is putting out a really really cool documentary next year um and they were

following me around but they were had all the access in the back and uh but yeah I just [ __ ] feel so calm you think that's from the meditation I think it's definitely I've learned how to get into that state of mind but I also know that that's just where I perform the best at like I'm very calm do you ever feel yourself Getting like hyped up or ramped up and then you just go slow down no Cal you just it's all calm just calm the whole fight week I feel very calm fight day

I feel very calm and then just warming up in the back I feel very calm and sometimes I'm like yeah I I just [ __ ] I don't know it's weird you go into I I have a conversation with myself to where I kind of with my breath I'm going say all right I'm just going to let my higher Self take over all the work was put in I'm going to I'm I'm going to just surrender to this moment let the higher self take over and I feel like I I've kind of I don't want

to say mastered that because you know I feel like there's always work to do but I feel like I've gotten I've been able to do it pretty much every single UFC fight I've been able to go in there and just flow whatever happens happens I completely accept that even if I go out there and Lose that my life is still good you know I still have my princess still have my family still got my friends life's okay and I feel like I accept that 100% I I also haven't had to deal with a loss and

or a loss that's you know so we'll see how what if it ever happens but that's why it's always impressive with people like Bisping after hendo knocked him out to come back and become the champion oh yeah and to do it with one eye That's insane the guy fought 10 fights including winning the world title with one eye that was one of my favorite moments in the UFC cuz I don't I I didn't watch the UFC very too far back but one of the one of the coolest moments was when bisbing knocked out rockold it

was incredible it was [ __ ] insane it just shows you this sport you can't take anything for granted [ __ ] you can't take anybody for granted you can't you can't be overconfident you Can't you can't sleep on people you can't Anything Can Happen L was the def of overconfident going to that fight I feel like his his [ __ ] demeanor and is just like everything yeah I mean and and you know justifiably so just smoked Chris Weidman looked like the [ __ ] man everybody's like Jesus Christ this guy's a stone cold

killer smoked Bisping after a full fight camp now he's fighting him on two weeks yeah remember he hit him with that question mark kick Oo and then gtin him oh yeah that was cold is a [ __ ] Savage man he was a [ __ ] and then Mike Perry all pieced him like that in their bare knuckle that was CRA I was excited for that that was exciting Mike Perry is just uniquely qualified to fight in that [ __ ] he's built for that he's built he's designed for it any kind of fighting that

[ __ ] I me even his grappling was underrated he could [ __ ] grapple he's strong as [ __ ] and he's so game and like Mindset is such an important quality and his mindset is a Rottweiler he's just just a Savage just let's go what I remember be knuckle kind of blew up a little bit for a second but I don't I haven't heard anything have they not had another big event yet they're gonna have uh look Jorge M doll's doing MMA which is I like that a lot it's have you ever thought

about doing that I would never never no no I like [ __ ] that little bit of padding I got for that baby I Feel like I got pretty strong hands though like pretty big hands strong hands but uh I'd rather I'd rather not he'll break yeah I'd rather not I mean I I think what they're doing with the wrap too is odd like you wrap the hand up in the wrist up but you leave the knuckles like one of the vulnerabilities of the hand is not just the fact that the hands are brittle but

the fact that when you punch something like your hand is not really designed to with you have to Really be good at hitting like that the right way and if it this happens like I [ __ ] my wrist up once when I was young when I didn't tape it right and I hit someone with a body shot and I caught their elbow and twisted my wrist back my wrist was [ __ ] up for like a year after that you blew your bicep out throwing a body shot like that boom I watched his separ

I was filming he was sparring he had a fight coming up I was filming his rounds and he threw a body Shot in this guy and it [ __ ] watched his bicep go up through his arm it was so t-shirt gross did you get it reattached yeah that's both of them yeah both oh both of them went out both and his brothers it's like a crazy that's weird yeah it is weird yeah Matt Sarah did that and never got it fixed so when he he makes one bicep it's like it's like in the middle

of it it like pops up it's like his the front part of the bicep like up to here that dude's a Character oh he's so funny [ __ ] is funny he's so funny I like watching him on certain things he's a [ __ ] he's great on podcast yeah we did this podcast with my friend John R Dean Thomas and him it was amazing it's like he's he's he's so funny man his stories and just his energy and his character yeah he's funny [ __ ] he's a classic New York funny Italian guy y

you know hell yeah and an amazing jiujitsu guy God damn was he good when he was Young really Matt Sarah was a [ __ ] man I he's a world championship caliber like as as Elite as anybody did he do G too or just no G and no he did everything yeah he's a [ __ ] assassin like a super high level black belt well it's good I mean that's where aljo those guys train out of right [ __ ] under him yeah that whole henzo Gracie lineage is one of the greatest lineages in Jiu-Jitsu

m i mean think about who came from there the John Doner Gordon Ryan all those guys they all came out of that one Camp Gary tonin you know even Craig Jones Craig Jones came over there it's like so many Elite guys came out of that one C I wonder what Cron's going to do I wonder if he's like [ __ ] I'm not it's done that last fight was a bomber that was CRA we were there live and it was just yeah that Charles jordane though I mean that was he had a good game planned

good [ __ ] execution I wonder if that kon's just so Like stuck in his ways a little bit cuz we were going to visit Montana hit him up to maybe get some training in with him for sugar and I didn't hit us back they say he just stays in the mountains just trains when he feels like it and it looked like that God be crazy those guys are your family though it's like how much pressure is on you to be great well it's also in this world of today just jiujitsu is not enough it

might be enough like if you catch Alex Caceras like he did you know and you get his back and I mean if cron gets on you yeah you're fck you're [ __ ] mean it's jiujitsu at the highest but he's got to get on top yeah because he he was on his bottom on bottom against Charles and he just Charles did a good job keeping his squips hip squared Charles is a real black Bel as well that's the thing is like Charles is very high level on the ground and he's he's so skillful he subed

Ricardo lamos didn't he I didn't See that I heard that though that's [ __ ] impressive yeah he's legit he's super Charles Jo Jane is super legit super technical very well-rounded do everything for 45 Division in this day and age too just like it's going to be hard to just be dangerous off your back and the guard everyone's just so [ __ ] good at Jiu-Jitsu now there's so many world champions you can find and feel them so to have a good good guard I mean the scariest guy off his back today in The UFC

is Paul Craig yeah Paul Craig catches people with triangles was like one second to go magam off he CGH him like one second too and fight he losing Charles leier too gets that overhook [ __ ] butchering oh ola's nasty I'm excited for that that's very interesting right October Abu Dhabi Charles Islam too Paulo versus Hamza yeah SI I wish it was I mean if it was here I'd go but [ __ ] Abu Dhabi has a flight that's a long ass flight but I Would love to see Charles [ __ ] win that would

make for a huge Trilogy it would be maybe call khabib out no there's no shot that's but it's also it's like you kind of see vulnerability in Islam after that fight with volkanovski first of all you see how good volkanovski really is pound for pound [ __ ] animal he's number one pound for you have to say they have him not listed as pound-for-pound because he lost that fight I think you can make a Real argument that he won that fight on top in the end of the fifth pounding on him it's hard not I

mean I think he won the fight in my mind he won the fight I think he did more damage I think he opposed his skill set it's also insanely impressive that he goes up from 45 to fight a massive 55 a guy who's as big at 55 as anybody is and you know at the end of the fight he's on top beating him up he drops him gets on top of him I mean and and had ma massive moments Throughout the fight but it sort of at least gives an air of vulnerability to Islam where

before that most people were like this guy's Unstoppable oh [ __ ] yeah Charles got to some conference from that or get some but then again Islam just smushed him when he got on top of him I mean he didn't even just most people walk into a Charles's full guard he forced the half guard right away pinched his knees forced the half guard like what a good ass idea but he also rocked Him dropped him boom maybe Charles wasn't you know yeah that too yeah there's a lot of factors but looking at Charles versus benil

Dar she's like he's back that was sick he's such and he's such an interesting case right because at one point in time like the Cub Swanson fight a couple of his other fights people are like well Charles just doesn't have it like whatever it is he just falls apart then he has a kid he has a daughter is that what it was yeah Man I could I could see that and then well he went up to 55 too right that too that's got to be yeah that too the 45 was real bad on him it

was real bad on him it was just rough but he's he did 55 before I think he did 55 in the initial fights in the UFC um but against e Fran es cadero I think I think that was 55 MH but he uh was just too hydrated and [ __ ] up to fight at 45 and for whatever reason just didn't have it together mentally yeah And then boom all of the sudden he's the [ __ ] man yeah it's it's almost just so cool seeing those guys with a lot of losses become the [

__ ] man when he did that was [ __ ] sweet he [ __ ] came on the scene with those Knockouts it is kind of crazy when you see a guy who's like gone like like to a point where you're kind of starting to write him off and then all a sudden becomes like there was a moment where people like oliv might be the best pound-for-pound Fighter on Earth yeah after gatei yeah man I mean that was incredible did you do that to gaii yeah gatei versus Islam's very interesting too though yeah it is

that's Gage's a monster KO or win that was [ __ ] wild he's a monster on the feet and he's a serious wrestler yeah you know there's a lot going on with that when he beat FIV I was like holy [ __ ] yes he beat him in at faz's game yep that was impressive as [ __ ] I wouldn't be surprised if gayg [ __ ] up Islam or knocked him out I wouldn't be that surprised I'd be like you know what Islam got very underrated striking that [ __ ] is skilled on the

feet he is very technical throws yeah he's he's underrated on the feet for sure but my God his top pressure is next level yeah his top pressure is just smushes people yeah everyone says he's just freakishly strong well he's so big I mean what does he weigh before he cuts to 55 he's got to be in the 190s God damn you think Yeah I've never seen him in person he's big dude he's got a big back he's thick I Kobe called him out right yeah that's a sick fight versus Leon will be sweet too but

kobby can make 55 he could for sure yeah he's not a big 70 at all damn that would be W that would be crazy if he wins the belt at 170 and he's the first guy to go well I guess Henry tried to go to TJ but go down to 55 and fight cuz islon probably is bigger than Colby probably or around the same size that Would be crazy it would be crazy has he ever fought at 55 in the UFC no no he hasn't so that would be interesting to see how cut goes but

you know you got to get past Leon that's no [ __ ] picking that guy is so and after he beat Usman the second fight he realized his Tak down defense is impressing is is more impressive and his striking is as good as anybody in the sport that [ __ ] head kick was so nasty pound-for-pound head shot dead that was so cold I was Like so cold Southpaw and Southpaw too and Kobe seems to do good against southpaws he takes him down [ __ ] pretty easy yeah punch take down punch yeah the thing

about Leon is you can't Zig when you shoot his zagged yeah you know he'll find your chin yeah he's accurate he's a good Striker he's got that Championship level confidence now wins the title by the most spectacular head shot like one of the most spectacular head kicks in the sport to Win a title in a fight you're losing against kamaru Usman who is the nightmare right and he's winning and you just cracked in the fifth round in in Utah elevation fifth round so crazy [ __ ] and that he called John anic was the greatest

call in sports history that is not the cloth from which he is cut whack like what yeah Po and then kamaro you know what one thing I think kamaro [ __ ] up was talking about how bad his knees are on I remember he said that on the Pod I cuz I never knew but then he would he brought it up when he was doing the Pod with you saying he has to walk backwards downstairs he has to walk in the grass sometimes just talking I think if you're a fighter and you got some some

real injuries keep that [ __ ] under wrap because if another if you're fighting someone and I know they're [ __ ] up somewhere or something gives You a little Edge maybe maybe not but I feel like he [ __ ] up definitely gives you a Target yeah you definitely know something's going on if you see him wince when something moves like oh this guy's knees are [ __ ] yeah and you definitely can kick the back of his legs and try to jar all that [ __ ] it's already inflamed and sore yeah but

who knows the [ __ ] was ran the [ __ ] for a while he ran the [ __ ] for you see Tyrone would Le say He'll come back only if he can [ __ ] up I I like Daron Woodley but I mean is he just a [ __ ] sniper don't you think that that is probably like when guys are they're it's kind of over and they're trying to find something to get a little bit Yeah and then yeah maybe they weren't allowed like some extra trt some sauce and then they get

on it and then they're like [ __ ] back baby yeah probably honestly yeah who knows I mean he was always naturally genetically Gifted I mean as a natural athlete he looked [ __ ] insane yeah you know we knocked out Robbie Lawler my God that was crazy yeah crazy the J Heron fight must might have been one of his most impressives that was like one of his first big Kos in the UFC you ever see that fight pull up Tyron Woodley Jay Heron he hit him with like this just leaping forward like Blitz punch

and cracked him and then put him away he was a monster man Tyrone Woodley Has some serious power crazy how you can just see someone Dominate and then it's next guy now it's kamaro dominating now it's Leon champ am I thinking of Josh kosek oh you know he hit him while he was going down douch maybe was maybe he knocked out Jay Heron too he did he did yeah let's see the Jay Heron first fight first yeah Tyron was a monster [ __ ] yeah it makes just even more impressive what Izzy was doing for

as long as he was Doing it and Alexander volkanovski fight defend fight defend fight defend fight defend oh I haven't seen this so he look how jacked he is and this is like complete boom I mean look at the spe Sprint boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom and this is Tyron at his most vicious yeah his most vicious in the beginning of his career [ __ ] NFL running back no he was phenomenal he was phenomenal in his prime yeah that's Crazy listen boys we just did like 4 hours no way yeah

it's close to it it's 5:00 already Jesus crazy hell yeah that went fast I know that was crazy that smelling salt listen man congratulations on everything it's been amazing and to have you guys on 5 years ago when kind of just plotting this out coming back on as the champ with one of the most amazing Championship winning performances in the history of the sport it's [ __ ] awesome man I'm so happy For you yeah thanks for having us on thanks for doing what you do CU I [ __ ] enjoy the podcast as just

as a fan It's [ __ ] amazing So yeah thank you for having us back on my pleasure thanks than all right bye everybody now [Music] [Applause] [Music]