How He Makes $500k Per Month At 15

All right man off rip the title of this video is going to be something crazy so I feel like we got to begin by showing some proof okay you've been going around saying some crazy numbers six figures per month at how old are you 16 now but you were making six figures a month at 15 at 15 yeah yeah bro show show us some numbers right now man that's that's insane don't leak this don't leak this strike it big would it make you do this Ice coffee hour I coffe might they might so look at

my statements statements snap all right what are we looking at to the Middle where it's like the Rev all right we're looking at your shows on Snapchat yep Revenue to be paid that looks like six figures to me that looks like high to Mid six figures and this is a monthly statement yeah that was in January is it cool if I spit off some of these numbers of course yeah I'm looking at $300,000 in the month of January brother At 15 yes sir all right we got a put me on how how can I work

for you bro let me put on to Sauce Qui put me on to Sauce now what what we're saying Snapchat but we're not explaining exping what it even is so what what is it so these are Snapchat shows so these are like short 3 to four minute videos that are vertical like Tik Tok Style and what we would do is we'd make these like videos every single day on celebrities like Andrew Tate Aiden Ross and just talk about like Drama that would go around with them right and we kind of took it to the next

level because before we got onto the platform people would only be posting like once every 3 4 days cuz the last video would overlap the views of the new one but we were like yo let's just try post every day see what happens and we kind of cooked because you defitely every video would get like over a million views and sometimes even like five six million views so if I can Recall our highest revenue day in an in an individual day was around 85 Grand nah in one day in one day all right but who's

who's paying you advertisers so like YouTube has advertisers who pay for slots on their videos that was the exact same for Snapchat so they'd pay to get slots on our videos and this was overpowered for a time because you're not putting in as much effort as you would with an 8 to 10 minute video but we're getting paid like 1010 to $15 RPMs yeah and and the videos you're making you're not like going out on the street this is all editing right behind content so my partner would like script and voice over and I'd go

edit and we both find the ideas and then we just go in and try to find like what's going to be the most thought-provoking drama filed video the next day and that's what would go the most viral so you're not like you're not a Snapchat Creator cuz I know there's a whole Different side of things like the David do making like hundreds of thousands by just posting 50 times a day people going crazy there as well yeah but this is different you're not a celebrity yet yeah yet I want to preface yet after this podcast

comes out probably so so can you just can you just hop on and like start posting these or how does it work no so the way Snapchat works is you actually have to apply for a show and then get accepted for it so they have Like a strict policy where they see and filter what shows they want to accept on the platform and when we got on back in like 2023 very early on 2023 the filter was way less they'd allow pretty much anything onto the platform which is why we got away with getting like

10 plus shows at like one time right and so we would just print on all of those shows but as the months went on Snapchat we're like yo this is kind of like not allowed so they stopped letting people just kind Of add any show they wanted to the platform and they made it more strict for new people okay what what are the actual shows you me celebrity drama so it's just like a drama alert type Channel yeah kind of a drama alert but then there's also just like satisfying videos where we post like satisfying

like slime videos there would also be like gym fails where we post like people of uh like failing in the gym or dropping their weights there would be so Many things like rapper beef just any type of section of the internet that you could think of that has a pretty substantial audience we kind of tried to take advantage of and is there an algorithm how are you getting these shows to go that Viral yeah so pretty much the algorithm that we figured out would be the most beneficial would be what would get people kind of

pissed off and wanting to on this video so Peak Andrew Tate or yeah Peak Andrew Tate When he was going to prison we we were doing some insane stuff I can't lie what were you doing we were like photoshopping him behind bars and like going crazy and Snapchat got on me about that a bit I can't lie but but yeah like we were just doing things that were thought provoking and then as time went on and the platform got stricter we obviously had to tone it back but there's little things that we would do where

we would ask maybe a question in The title to make them think like okay what is really going to be disclosed in this video so we just kind of adapted with the times as everything went on bro people talking about like oh black rock is behind all this fake media it's Daniel Ben it's me bro was 15 there's the guy behind fake media no but what you were saying what Max was saying like you can't just post to Snapchat right you need to get approved somehow yeah yeah so you need to go through an agent

So someone who has a direct access to Snapchat and once you do that you apply for your show they send the pitch out and if it gets accepted you'll have access to start posting videos but what used to happen back then is that they used to allow shows that were faceless so no Creator which is how I got away with it right but nowadays they're only allowing shows that big creators submit so you have to be a human behind it going in and trying to apply for a show Like a big Fitness influencer or someone

like keemstar right you can't really do like the method where you're behind the scenes um anymore right yeah did you run into any copyright issues when you doing it no we didn't really get any copyright issues because we were transformative so we'd add text subtitles music to everything there were times where like when we post our satisfying videos some people would like contact us and then we just take everything down immedately but We'd always credit and everything and like transform it as much as we can so how long after your first post did you start

making money um well funly enough our first two weeks of Snapchat I don't think we made any money and we're like yo like is this ontap method tap like what's going on here right so we just kept going like I think there's something here there were people that were going viral and we just kind of kept adapting and I think it was the Third week so the way Snapchat works is they reveal your Revenue to you 30 days after your show is initially created so over the first month of uploading we had no idea how

how much money we were making what our CPM was nothing like that so we thought like okay I think we've made like probably like 15K in 30 days great money more than we'd ever made and then we see our 30-day unlock and we made like almost 200k called my mom She runs up the stairs like Mom I made it like got it was crazy it was like 200k on our or 186k on our Dash this is all profit this isn't like Drop Shipping Revenue 50% of the 180k goes to our agent which is the P

50% yeah so not the agent Snapchat Snapchat take 50% of what you make just like YouTube does and so we were left with like whatever that divided by two was and that was pure profit so like when I said 500k Revenue a month that was 250 pure profit that I Mean that's still insane still great yeah wow I yeah that's totally fair but if we go like all the way back right how did you even think of this idea how did you even first get into the online space cuz and as you tell your story

you got to drop your age age marks cuz this is insane yeah so I started when I was 12 during the cough cough and what I would do is I would fake being a designer for people so I'd go on Twitter and I'd see people who would want designs done then I'd hit up my boy on Fiverr and then I'd be a middleman acting as a designer so I'd get paid like 50 60 bucks for a video but pay a guy $5 and would just make the middle fee but after a while like I realized

if I wanted to scale I had to know the skill a little bit so I wasn't really into designing that much but I was into video editing because i' done it for myself homemade videos and so I started doing that and that was at the age of like 13 is when I started Doing that I edited for people for free for a long long time and you get in contact with these people pure Outreach but I didn't just Outreach like a normal person would saying I want to edit for you I just edited their video

for them and then just sent them a really cool edited version of their video for absolutely free and I just thought like what could I do that's just maybe better than like a lot of other people reaching out to them I see all these tweets all The time looking for an editor looking for an editor I see hundreds of people replying and then I see them tweeting the next day the same thing again so it's like obviously no one really caught their eye right so I wanted to be the person to do that and I

started building up little portfolio for free content that I'd make for these people and eventually I got my first paying client and he paid me like five bucks for a 30 minute video we don't talk about those Times but yeah I had no school when he closed on you he didn't know that your age right uh no I think he did my age but I sent him the video and he saw it was good so I was like why don't just pay five bucks to a 12-year-old kid or 13-year-old kid and see what happens right

he was probably making a couple thousand dollars at the time and so I took the hours and obviously I wasn't as experienced at the time so I really put in a ton of hours to get like this Commission done well and I built that up from like five bucks to 10 bucks 500 and that's how it went for like maybe a year or two years so from 13 to 15 I edited for like a couple hundred bucks a video and I ended up actually closing a couple thousand commissions for people in FaZe and for bigger

people in the space how did you get in contact with them same thing was Lally just building my portfolio at a certain period of time I didn't really need to reach out to People anymore I would post my work on my Twitter and people just like it would kind of hit like the algorithm of editors and they reply being like cool work and obviously all these creators follow these editors and so they'd eventually start seeing me and would hire me so that was really cool like I think the most I made in a month just

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Pinnacle of editing M and so I was working for these creators I saw the money they were making I had access to their analytics and I was like what I'm going to do now is learn from them but like not by ask them questions so they'd give me revisions for videos right there's a reason they'd give me those revisions like there was things They wanted to Chang in the videos and I would just try to pick up on these things ask like little questions here and there on like what made a good video process and

because I was involved in like the back end team I still have the designers operated and like the strategist operated so just kind of started picking that up and then I was like time to start a Minecraft Channel because I was really into playing Minecraft like that was my thing Hypixel Right okay and so I went on Minecraft and I worked with this agency you could say where they took 50% of my channel funded the whole operation and they had a bigger creator with multiple million followers in the Minecraft Niche who taught me everything and

so it was sort of a deal where the industry planed me as a face of the channel really gave me 50% of it put up all the upfront cost and just like I kind of just like benefited from it I learned I had no Burn and it was the best thing I could spend my time on because I was learning from people who had millions of followers in the same the same I've never heard of this it's like MCN type format where like well I've heard of mcms I guess that technically isn't MCM huh it

is so like there was a big Creator at the top multiple million follow he's kind of behind this yeah so it wasn't him it was another guy above him who was behind it he had like a good Stak of course of course he did have a steak on our show cuz he was the one sitting with us in calls teaching me how to make thumbnails because the whole thing was supposed to be the guy teaches us how to make videos he funds it and we end up running these channels and making him money right and

so I got that channel to 20,000 subscribers in 3 months long form video which was pretty good because like I had no idea what I was doing but I was just learning I was Literally consuming all the content and info I could and I was like okay time to dip and do this potentially on my own did they just let you go yeah they just let me go because after a certain while like it was on me that I just wasn't putting enough working because I was demot by demotivated by the fact that I now

knew all the info and was still giving 50% and I guess that was the problem with their business model like they should have got me on a crazy Contract but they didn't but they didn't no it was I've heard crazy things about MCM like locked inck I was lucky the guy I still know him to this day very good friend of mine and like he's like like I'm proud of what you've accomplished which is a super cool thing to I don't know bro he's just waiting for you to blow up and he's hitting you with

the lwuit oh for sure I'm no but yeah it was really cool and I kind of had like a little limbo period after that that was When I was still in the age of 15 and it was like I know how to make videos now but like having to put up The Upfront cost is pretty is pretty crazy right what upfront cost well to make videos like hiring like designers and doing I didn't know how to do that and I wanted a big thing I had for a while was like wanting to put the the

right people in the right places to do things for me like I didn't really want to be the one to like design my thumbnail even though I probably should have learned that skill and I do now back then I was like I just want to hire a designer and do what I'm good at which is editing a video and so I didn't really have The Upfront cost for that and so I kept editing for a bit and was making a couple thousand a month which was keeping like cool money coming in and then an old

client of mine an old editing client of mine U called Luke reached out to me and was like yo I have An idea for this channel that we should start together it's a shorts Channel and I was like let's do it and we started it and we got it to a million subscribers in six months which was pretty insane hold on can are you okay with revealing what kind of content it's called slam dunk and it's like celebrity drama but only centered around Mr Beast it was like Mr Beast first subscriber Mr Beast craziest challenge

and this is on what platform YouTube YouTube shorts and so We did this for like 3 months we got it to like a lot of subscribers and then that's when Snapchat so this was end of 2022 when we did that and Snapchat came into fruition early 2023 so the first 3 months of YouTube we were all in and then the Snapchat like thing came around to us and what's crazy is that for the first three months of 2023 we never touch the channel anymore cuz we were all in on Snapchat MH but we got 600,000

subscribers in 3 months from Not posting a single video from our old videos just picking up and we were making like $10,000 a month on that channel that's what I was going to ask how do you monetize like just shorts cuz you're not doing any long form right not at all YouTube just has like a a shorts fund where they pay like 6 to 10 cents per thousand views which isn't bad because of how much you can scale shorts like we had months where we would get like 150 million views and that would Pay us

like 6 to 10 grand or something like that it's not bad yeah it's not bad and like I said for the last 3 four months of the channel we hadn't posted a video but it still climbed to that million Mark and I ended up getting the plaque right because of that which was pretty cool and then that was just my buildup from being 12 to being 16 and finally getting into Snapchat so then you hear about Snapchat how does that come around so a friend of mine who was An editor with me um one of

his clients was doing it and was like okayy let's partner on this and they partnered and I was seeing them like slowly do it and I knew he was doing it before I had ever even thought about it and I was like okay let's see how this does like good luck man and he kept updating me he'd be like yo made 10K this like what may 15K this month and I was like what and then I was like okay tap me in coach like get me in right and so that's when me And my partner

went all in to try to find like a way to get in we got connected to an agent and then we started just pumping there and like obviously we would have still done well on Snapchat but our thing was let's just try to do what other people aren't doing so we started posting every single day which was something that was known as a myth like don't post every day you're not going to do well and then we hit like our first month on Snapchat was Actually historically our best month of all time which was pretty

interesting um we kind of like made Snapchat realize like what they had here and so they had to like reorganize it a bit but yeah like all of 2023 that's crazy you're impacting like there's these crazy Executives of these publicly traded company they talking about probably your show like oh we got to switch this up yeah man i' I'd assume so 100% because like we made a really big splash no one Was getting as many views as us and we did that on our first month and is that your editing you just know the formula

no it wasn't the formula cuz we also were figuring it out at the time it was more about like trying things throwing stuff at the wall and then something stuck but obviously we had an advantage because we done the YouTube channel my client had done YouTube in the past I'd edited we knew what the Creator economy looked like in general we weren't going In blind and so I can 100% say we had an advantage over someone who would have come in with no shot of how to do anything MH that's obviously a benefit but we

also did go in blind to a new platform it's not the same algorithm as YouTube Tik Tok Instagram it's completely different do you think you can still do something like this today or was that just kind of like a yeah and before we go into that how do you even start this like if I open SnapChat can I Just is there a form to fill out or something how do you yeah so technically they have a form on Google that you could fill out but they haven't checked that in like two years like we didn't

apply through that the way we applied is by going through an agent who had a special connection to a rep at Snapchat and that's how everyone usually goes in but like I said now you can still get a show if you're a Creator and you're a front face of everything but as someone Who goes in faceless like we did you can't really do that anymore that's not the method which is why like we were like okay like Snapchat isn't going to be something that's here for 3 four years they're moving away from this style of

content we have to readapt but let's say I have a great idea for a show and I'm not me I'm just like somebody off the street I have a great idea for the show I could theoretically pitch an agent and if they like the idea I could Be in the program that you were in yeah but you have to be a Creator doing that you have to be you have to have a face to your show nowadays you can't be someone with a voice over a mic and no face so they want to prioritize creators

and like like you previously mentioned before the little thing with David do and stuff that's only creators you don't see any faceless stories right so they want to move that into the show section as well which is why they want creators To go in as well cuz Snapchat's original plan with this was not to be a fully faceless like program which is what made it easy for some people to get in when we started announcing it it was for creators to come in and make like shows and episodes like like YouTube right yeah I'm sure

there's still people that want to see the satisfying content does that still do pretty well um I mean it does pretty well if you've been on the platform since before they stopped Allowing it but the problem is with satisfying content is you probably have to pay a lot of money to the original owners of the content if you want this to be a 2 threee longlasting business so you can't really get away with doing this for multiple years without the person who content like really owns it probably comes at you you know but what if

you make your own satisfying content 100% you probably can do that but you'd have to in some way boys let's Start making slime start making the Slime bro we're getting the hydraulic press yeah bro hydraulic press in the ware house to be crazy why don't you come back with the personal brand like with with the personal content what do you mean like with your face on it I could 100% do that but it's just the same as me posting a YouTube video you know I have to be there film record I'm the bottleneck to my

business but with faceless content no one's a bottleneck In theory you could hire out people to do it for you whereas as a creator your face is the only thing stopping you from really going further so I mean it's a never- ending cycle if you were to do that on Snapchat as well yeah I heard you bring up the whole delegation thing multiple times already is that just because you don't like doing certain things or is it because you're just a master delegator no I I honestly think like no ego here but I think I'm

really Good at putting the right people in the right places to do things and leveraging so one thing I heard horoi say is business is not a game of hard work it's a game of hard leverage so you put people in the right places to do things for you and that's how you really get ahead by definition Jeff Bezos is the hardest working person but I can almost guarantee he doesn't put in the most labor hours right he just leverage the Right people in the right places to make to put him where he's at now

which is what I think is a super important key factor but what I said before about me not wanting to do thumbnails that then was an immature decision of me I think you should know every aspect of what your business does better than your employee so that you can really be the one at the end of the day to put the fires out if there are any right yeah and you got to know how it work works First before you can you can even tell if this is if this person that you hired is doing

a good job so you have to know the ins and outs the first month of our Snapchat business it was only me and my partner doing everything we didn't have an employee but we're were like okay I think it's smart for us to get an employee we know every aspect of our business let's just get people in certain spots and slowly fill them out so we can maybe turn this something more Serious than like a side hustle of us having to work 10 15 hours a day so during this process did you try other platforms

whilst we were doing Snapchat we were all in on Snapchat so we did try a YouTube channel um Mid of 2023 it was a documentary faces Channel we did get like 2 million views on our third video she cuz like we intrinsically know how to go viral like that's a skill that you acquire if you just put the Reps in but the thing is like we were expensing five Figures a month on that channel cuz our thing was quality over quantity so we were spending like thousands of a video to make like the best animations

and everything and we were going viral but it was like sure do we spend five figures a month running a channel like this or spend like a couple a month making six figures on 3 minute videos so it was like until the SnapChat thing dies out why do we need to focus on anything else so this whole like thing I'm hearing about on Twitter of faceless YouTube channels this actually real 100% I have friends and I do it as well yeah cuz I I see a lot of people selling courses about it I heard that

a lot of that kind of scene is kind of scammy I mean it can be 100% I think that's in every scene that like Drop Shipping Ecom like there's always going to be the Bad actors and everything but the actual business model Works possible every business model works you just literally Need to go and do it um put the hours in but nowadays it's I think in the past they would advertise as like oh you build a little compilation Channel and you're going to bring but nowadays you can't do that right I like call it

like YouTube automation it's YouTube faceless because you're not automating anything you have to put in the work it's just not your face at the front of it so I personally have friends like I can speak firsthand experience 19 18 17 year olds Making a million dollars a month on YouTube right now without turning their face just off AdSense and I can vouch for that right now like I know people doing that it's insane but are they are they more of like taking on a Creator role or they're delegating this so there are some people who

take the Creator role of being the faest person behind it but the kind of method that people have started to take is like hiring a voice actor hiring an editor but like looking Over every role so you still have to put in tons of hours of reviewing the videos making the scripts a lot of times you have to train the writers and everything because it's not something where you just hire out a $5 gu 5 or how these YouTube gurus usually advertise it and there are good like you could call them gurus or people who

teach who tell you like this isn't easy you're going to put in time but there's like a formula you can follow which I'll help you with but Like at the end of the day I've never bought a course people courses can help but like if you just kind of watch on YouTube and learn things about every industry you can make it work all all the time dude courses can just be like an expedited version to getting there quicker but it's still viable today 2024 you can do a faceless Channel untapped no like it's there for

sure like there's people doing it there's people making an unworldly amount of money doing that Yeah and when we say faceless I think a lot of people's minds automatically goes to like some brain rot type content but when I think about it it's like I watch a lot of faceless content like I love video essays like w over Productions and all those half as interesting but that's technically faceless it's just they're making like documentary level what is and and the thing that I've realized and like this might be some sauce here but the way to

go faceless is to do quality Over quantity in my opinion so you see like the W over Productions I don't know if you've heard the channel like rebound of like a basketball Channel there's like these channels that are faceless but they have like $50,000 a month in Burn because they're just making the best videos possible making a lot of money from it and like the method with faceless now is to make products out of your channel and make real Brands out of this so like people I was working on This previously where like for example

let's say you make a basketball Channel okay what stops you from making like basketball merchandise out of that channel bro but people buying that cuz that's easy to say and it sounds good in concept but like who's buying merch from a basketball Channel you want to know something even crazy you know why people are buying merch out of basketball Channel because the faceless guys are hiring people to be the face of the Channel like it goes deep so like you can hire a guy to be the face of your faceless Channel and like it just

goes layer after layer after layer and like I know people who have products out of their Channels with without even hiring a guy out of it making like good income and the cool thing about making a brand out of something is you now have like value you now have something that you're building that's not just an AdSense machine that YouTube could stop at any Time well I think all faceless channels technically like you could tell that's an exit business I'm in the process of acquiring your faces Channel right now for six figures so like this

is a thing that happens there's markets for this and so like there this isn't like a taboo business anymore where like back in the day it would be like a $5 thing it's turning into a real business where even companies are investing in people to run these faces channels and I think Like even Mr Beast talked about the fact that faceless channels are absolutely printing he actually consulted for the basketball Channel called rebound that I previously mentioned cuz they're boys and he took it from like $100,000 a month in AdSense I think like half a

million dollar a month in AdSense so like things are possible here but like I said it's not easy like this isn't an easy business model it's just like you have to learn to have the eye for how to Make a good video and then slowly slowly you're going to start getting better at it just like you would in Drop Shipping or any other business model yeah I mean it makes sense I think when you mentioned when you think of faceless it's like dgen content but it really is it's more of like TV it reminds me

of TV back in the day where you're pitching shows you're creating shows you're hiring people to to run that show so people are just it's just a media Company at this if you're putting a person in front of your fa this channel you're running a media company yeah it's interesting and like TV is literally slowly going further and further away and the cool thing I've seen with friends of mine is like over 50% of their audiences usually now come from TV audiences so you can see where like if they're watch from mobile mobile like on

YouTube and most of the people watching these face channels are now from like Their TV so people aren't even watching TV anymore they're watching YouTube and Fa channels just ATT track that um because you can make super interesting videos like documentaries on history or like you see like real life lore all these types of channels are like oversimplified can you make money on movie Recaps bro I'm a movie recap feiend like I watch five at night sometimes I have friends who like run these or you actually put me on that you Don't have to watch

movies anymore yeah it's like I feel like we got to explained what they are because people might not know them but it's like people take this 2hour long movie they'll condense it into 10 minutes and you can get like 90% of the movie you don't get like the cinema and the art and the dialogue behind it and the craft but you get the idea of the story I know people running those channels probably some that you've watched yourself making a Lot of money like there's crime channels where people do body cam like you know those

police body c videos and that's monetizable that's all monetizable cuz you're transforming the content like you're adding The Voice in between you're adding the text over also a lot of the times like you're buying the content from people to use it's not like this like Quick Cash CRA business like you're actually like turning into something where you're paying people to Use their content but it still faces at theend but the movie thing you are kind of you you in a and I'm sure it takes a lot of work to summarize it and edit it but

you are kind of taking that actual movie of course but if you think about it it's transformative because if you were to just post a 2 three hour movie there then obviously you're stealing the IP mhm but if someone were to review a movie and say I like this part and this happened here and this happened there And add voiceovers text subtitles music the audience or the viewer is getting exactly what they wanted out you're not stealing the millions of dollars of Graphics that went into the movie you're not reposting it and you're not trying

to make a movie you're trying to make a 10 15 minute video you're not here to build like um like a $50 million budget movie you know what I mean yeah no I hear you and I hope they don't get taken down cuz I love them but it's like it is Kind of like you're taking this $300 million product and you're benefiting off of it but I see your point cuz you are putting in a ton of work to be fair doesn't that isn't that applicable to like any case you know what I mean people

who review anything People review cars like why are you stealing $150,000 car and showing it to us like that's different bro that's but but what I'm trying cuz Vlad watched the video and now he's not going to theer to watch it Well it's like but also if you think about it like people's time and attention spans are getting a lot lower like people like you're you're watching movie CU you can't sit through a 2 three hour movie right I just I just feel like I'm saving a lot of time like I want to watch this

movie instead I'll watch it this 10 minutes I mean maybe people who make those movies might be annoyed by the fact that people are stealing it but if there aren't any issues with YouTube And they haven't been stried down and you're obviously still watching the content then I think that's pretty much standing on YouTube obviously within Nisha so for example people who run like these crime channels some of them will get taken down right there's always going to be these little like people who get like upset and we'll take your channels down but the entire

niche as a whole like movie Recaps I'm sure there's been channels in that Niche who've gone And taken down but you just have to be transformative enough and there's rules you can play by on YouTube to make it so you don't get flagged or they don't really pay attention to you so that like you don't get taken down what's crazy is you said people are making money off of body cam footage so they're just getting like this free body cam footage and YouTube is allowing monetization on that no so the way it usually works is

you can Source body cam footage from the Actual police station so you can request re EST it from them and that's not IP by anyone the government owns that footage and it's free use for anyone like who can actually take body cam footage from you like Disney doesn't own the body cam footage and so like people will actually go to the police stations and email them be like hey I want to Source this this incident and use it for my video or sometimes if it's like high-profile cases you'll pay like a th000 bucks for The

actual body Cam and if you're the first one to put that out on YouTube you're making bank that's but the whole thing that I'm shocked at is that YouTube is allowing monetization on this stuff cuz they used to be really strict did they like stop when I say the body cam footage I don't just mean they're reposting the entire thing I mean like here are the five craziest Karen freakouts and then they put like the first one and then something happens With the cop and they pause the video and like this cop did this blah

blah so like they're just reposting the video have you ever heard have you ever seen like these pite audit channels where like they'll see if the cop was in the wrong um so there's these channels where like they'll see if the cop was in the wrong by the way they acted with the civilian and that's technically whatever stolen body cam footage but they're auditing the entire situation adding Their input reading the law whilst they're watching the video that's fully transformative you're literally adding a completely new variable to the to the event that you wouldn't have

had if you just watched the content raw M yeah there's a lawyer guy too that does that yeah it's like oh is this legal or not 100% like he reacts to rappers music videos as well like that stuff like that happens all the time and like I said YouTube will take down some but they're Allowed because people have learned how to play by the rules in as this ises me hey I want you to change this I'll change it like everyone wants to make money you know what I mean yeah that makes sense especially the

Creator stuff I actually have an interesting story where my mom called me recently and she was like yo I saw nonchalant podcast Clips being posted you got to take this down and had to explain like How now like it's shifted back in the day you would want those clips taken down but nowadays it's like please take our Clips please clip them up and create channels Mr said down podcast like please take my content repost it cuz one of his friends had called him and said yo I want to track these guys down that's happened with

me like on past videos I've been on they've reposted my Clips got a millions of views and that just brings more brand recognition to You there's literally zero downside because you wouldn't have gone and taken the time to do that they did it for free so you should be likeing them yeah it's it's a great thing and but it's interesting cuz back in the day it wasn't like that and like with Tik Tok they're paying a dollar per thousand views now people are incentivized to repost those videos of you and like yeah that that's a

whole other market right there Well is that do you recommend that that's how people get into something like this probably with the Tik Tok creativ I 100% like can you explain it a little bit to yeah so the Tik Tok creativity program um is something where if you post a video over one minute long you will get paid anywhere from like7 cents to $2 per thousand views that you receive which is pretty good money for a Tik Tok because of how viral they can go and the I think the requirements are 10,000 followers and 100,000

views so hold on how much would you be getting paid for like a million views on Tik Tok if it's over $1,000,000 yeah and so like now you're seeing these creators like expand their videos out to over a minute and that's Tik tok's way of trying to tap into long form right um and slowly get longer so I'm sure they're going to add down the line like $5 per thousand views if it's like over five minutes right and so like yeah that that's a Really good business model I think people who like want to make

short form videos saw what I did on Snapchat and want to have the possibility of making some insane money they do that so I have a friend Musa who's like kind of the pioneer of doing all that and like he's making like $50 to $100,000 a month just doing that running multiple Pages clipping streamers or like reposting things and like it's a super cool way of making money and it's kind of low effort Because it's a Tik Tok at the end of the day right um and it's like obviously the 1080 1920 resolution and it's

also super low risk like there's no upfront money other than your time yeah if you just want to put the time to learn how to edit and stuff then you can 100% do that and actually like build a told that yo it's been flying I thought that was like a leaf or something you bro it's i' I've been looking at it Flying around you I don't know if it's picked up on the camera just looking for a good moment to I'm trying to be wear around do creativ how do you how do you like what

step one somebody wants to get into this right now like what should they be learning about what are like where do you look for resources how do you find out more information about this yeah so I don't want this to be a self-promo all but like I have a software called Cray where it's like a generative video AI editing tool and what we did is we wanted to cater it for Tik Tok so you know how people post like those Subway Surfers or like GTA gamls so we have a library of like 10 20,000 of

these clips in our video and then we also have like an autog generative tool where you like input your script it makes the edit for you and you post it and so like there's things like that that I'm making along like the other Founders I'm with where We're making it easier for people to make Way start just into's who run servers hundreds of of people like previously mentioned and it's just people asking each other INF for like oh what's the new trend here like what's going on today like is there things that I should focus

on tap into and like the trends change all the time like there is for every single meta and you just need to be able to kind of Attack that and the cool thing about Tik Tok is you have the for you page right so whatever Trend really pops up is going to pop up on your for you page because it's like advertising it to everyone in the platform so like what I've seen as just a viewer bystander is whenever I see a new trend pop up I see it on my for you page and that's

a good indicator that maybe I should start getting into something like that how do you even find these communities like Where do you look for these discords because Discord is private right so you have to find it somewhere there's people making content on Instagram Tik Tok and YouTube about how to do the Tik Tok stuff like there is anyone it's just teaching you a business model and so from those you get into those communities and like most of the time they're free and then obviously there's probably pay walls behind the but like that's how you

Foster community Of people who do any bus model you join maybe area on Twitter or like a theme page on Instagram who promotes it or something like that and you start meeting people in a similar space but obviously you see accounts on Tik Tok all the time you can actually message Tik Tok accounts so you can like connect with people like that which is pretty cool that's crazy you're doing all this like online networking essentially yeah well I mean that's how networking is Done these days I mean most of the cool people I've met have

initially been from online and then obviously we move to meeting each other in real life but everyone's online all the kids are online trying to make it with money whatever and so that's how you kind of foster these friendships in a way yeah Discord is definitely like a younger thing yeah I think it is but not not I mean it's kind of starting to hit to like older audiences I mean all of Crypto works on Discord like nfts all of that is just on Discord even older people are starting to get on because it's starting

to become community for like Health as well in different areas of like life that's crazy yeah so what are are you doing now we talked a lot about Snapchat and all these things but what are you actively doing now so right now I'm all in on the software company that I just talked to you about okay because there was just like a way to Like Tik Tok is a relatively newer method of making money and the the tool isn't just to tap into Tik Tok is to tap into short form in general so one thing

I realized is like damn editing has been the same for many many years now people go in input and they learn how to edit from scratch but what if there was ways like using AI because obviously AI is getting much much better why don't we take advantage of it to make people's lives easier and so that they can make Content quicker so our tool isn't only for like Tik Tok it's also for like YouTube Instagram so there's like kids now using our tool and like hitting that creativity program threshold or making a couple thousand dollars

but it's so that you can just make content quicker so essentially just to summarize in one sentence it's an AI editing tool that makes it easier to edit short form content exactly exactly and so how did you like develop that how did you get The idea yeah so a friend of mine called Musa is like you could say the peak of that industry right okay and he was just promoting like capka all the time like Capa is a tool to use it's on your phone it's easy and and the thing that I see a lot

with creators is that they'll promote other things but they'll never make an inhouse to really make1 hundred billion dollar tools right and so why can't Musa leverage himself and his audience to make something that crazy And so Musa myself Arab who's another founder who at 19 had like a $10 million exit offer for his software company wow and then a developer friend Alim we partnered together Infinity Squad and we were like let's make the best tool in the space and so we spent like 3 four months developing this like with no talking about it to

anyone else just underground and we launched it like at the beginning of February and it's it's been crushing it's crushing can you Spill some Revenue yeah we're at like over $100,000 a month now in 3 weeks which is pretty cool and obviously with crayo or not with cray with software comp multipliers looking at 5 to 10 X's so10 million compet to Turks and caos you know I mean you're already almost there you're in Cypress it's already an island you actually flew in here from Cypress insane had to do it for be Trey and Max and

TJ appreciate it but yeah it's super cool I think that was the Next step like for myself to build something that was meaningful that I can focus on for like many years to come because if I were to sit back and make content all day every day I'm always controlled by the platforms but what if I were to build something that like I can look back on in 5 years like I really built a company I changed people's lives like people are using this tool now like they use Premier Pro like that's something super cool

that I Like to think of when I'm building something like this and I'm not the one building it Arab and Alim who are the two developers are the ones building it but me and Musa are the ones who do like the front end so I went really back into my personal brand I've seen that you've been firing it on YouTube is that is that specifically you're going on YouTube to promote this so I want to be the biggest in the finance I will be I'm not going to be I Will be the biggest in the

finance God is's not going to like that one it's fine bro it's fine stepan's not going to like I I'm so confident I will be I'm just like I'm trying to lift the bar with the type of videos I make and I think I'm doing that I believe it bro like you're 16 right now yeah you're like 10 years behind some of the biggest people I think 10 years to get my Edge that's like the fact that I relate to the kids who wanted to make money and One thing that I want to stress is

like I fell into the Trap where everything was about money for so long and I was still 15 16 years old right but like I like I want to enjoy life as a kid as well so like when I make these Finance videos I actually I I don't tell people to put your whole life into making money and like cut off like you should really enjoy like your time as a kid like I'm still a kid right so I'm maybe talking from an immature standpoint but I don't Want to have my whole life roling around

money I don't want to have everyone I have around revolve around money I just want to be with my homeboys having fun like not really thinking about everything all the time and like I've started to build that balance as well in my life but that's also why I built the brand because these people who are in their 20s 30s 40s making these Finance videos they can tell anything they want to a teenager right but if you're a Teenager doing this like me like I know what it's like to be a kid and like maybe not

be able to talk to your friends for a long time or people think of you as less because you're younger than them and so that's why I wanted to do a brand like this that's why I thought I'd have an edge the competition because I relate to kids that are younger I was going that's very wise that's actually something I was going to ask you do you feel like you're missing Out on a childhood but it doesn't seem like it it seems like you're trying to balance it out right 100% at the beginning 100% I

was missing out like it was bad I wouldn't talk to my friends for 3 four months on end and you know I was motivated by these Tik toks of people telling me to cut everyone off and stuff but like yes sir you were in monk mode huh 100% bro no water no food no talking to parents but like after a while I Realized like I like I'm going to look it's whatever behind the mic anyways yeah bro ain't nobody watching this far into it no you were saying I said just after a while I realized

that like I'm going to look back at this when I'm 2530 and be like I wish I took an advantage of my teenageers more because you only have them once you only have your 20s 30s once so why not just make the most of it dude it's it's so much more sustainable If you're actually enjoying it like you're you're not going to get burnt out as quick yeah and I got like so yesterday I was like with a billionaire enough at dinner and he told me and I was like bro how are you with a

bil hold on pause through um through one of the founders at crayo he's in like the San Francisco area with all these crazy Founders who build these companies and I've started to get connected with these people which is super cool and like I Asked him questions cuz I wanted to pick his brain I'm like how do you handle the really high highs and the really low lows how do I have that Medium standpoint and he said the way I think of it is at the end of the day if you make money doing what you

love you win if you don't make money doing what you love you win you're doing what you love and so it's really interesting to think about because there's people making some money doing what they hate and their Life has no purpose but at the end of the day if I'm making money or not doing what I actually love to do every single day putting in the time and I'm just so like gratified by it there's nothing else I could ask for because it's such a rare thing to be able to do I'm so privileged to

be able to do what I love like no one gets to do that the whole world like is working these minimum wage jobs and I'm so happy that I was one of the few that was able to like really Have like I guess you could say like the chance to be able to step out of that and really enjoy what I do every day why do you think that is do you think you got lucky I think I was surrounded by people who motivated me to do that okay um like like what's the difference between

you and like a normal teenager who's not succeeding I think a normal teenager is a normal teenager and you don't need to succeed if you're a teenager you should Just have fun but I didn't want to be a normal teenager I don't know why when I was younger I actually have a screenshot of like my yearbook at literally 9 years old saying I want a Lambo and I want to be a YouTuber and like the way I thought of it it's really weird saying this but the way I thought of it like at that age

I said I know I'm going to be rich know what I'm really going to do but I feel it inside me that something's going to happen and I caught up with that this Year right even though I'd been pretty much like daily Dialing for the past four or five years and now I'm at the stage where I'm like I feel like I'm going to be worth $100 million I know I'm worth a $100 million I just need to catch up to myself like I'm talking to people now who are impressed by me because of what

I've done I'm the exact same person I was two years ago but you would have never talked to me because I hadn't accomplished it yet right but how How did you learn to think this way do you have was it like your parents is it the content you watched where does this stem from I think my parents were very like entrepreneurial driven as well which is like I I guess you could say the way that my brain was programmed because I grew up with them um but I also was just very like I would consume

a lot of business content and maybe that was just because it popped up on my free page one day like I'm not going to lie I've been watching you since maybe like 2019 like really really early on like since I was like before I had the teen at the end of my like I was 12 bro you weren't even a teen CRA I wasn't even a teen yet it was a bit crazy I don't know it just like started the the ball started rolling there and I started watching just these Finance YouTubers and half the

time I had no idea gra I'm talking about like House crashes and I'm like interesting like the house market Is crashing this year but like it was just interesting I loved consuming this and even before I had money I would talk about business with my friends like dude what are you talking about shut up like but it was just really interesting and I don't know what it is but I could never see myself working a job for someone like the way I think of it now is it's literally between food stamps and a Lambo like

there is no in between you you get Freedom either way I do because In a sense that's the whole thing that Tate's been saying yeah really or like you're there's only two freedoms if you really make it or if you're like a bum on the beach you don't have to care about anything but it's just one of those things where I don't know I don't think I'm programmed in that way and maybe that's talking from a place of privilege or something but I don't at the moment I don't think I could and I'm lucky enough

to the point now in my life If everything were to go to zero I have people around me where I could bounce back get a six-figure job at a tech company to consult or something like that and so I know I'll be I'll be fine as long as I just keep my head down don't like Foster over the high High and the low lows and just keep that median going always and you said your parents uh are entrepreneurial what what do they do yeah so like my parents did e-com actually like on Etsy and stuff

like That uh no I think they had like uh like warehouses in in America and stuff like little like they sell so like when fortnite was popping they bought like hella fortnite talks and then sold them so they did bro that's so crazy that I probably bought one of those it's so crazy that you can say something like that it's kind of normal oh yeah my parents make money online that's that's interesting cuz like you're kble to say that about my dad's a Drw Sher like oh my dad my dad makes Clips my dad Post

subway for videos he bought me this Lambo I know it's kind of it's kind of a sin to admit this in The Entrepreneur Space but do your parents are they slightly wealthy because also saw the crib in the videos bro that that's ni Cyprus isn't like a very cheap country I will never say that I come from an under like my family is well off and but the thing I can say about myself is I'm so happy to the point where I was Intill with that mindset from when I was young and like obviously the

people who come from nothing are respected more because they had to really get out there but I never took like like I bought my own PC by like working for things and and to do that and so I think I'm proud of myself to the point where I didn't just ask my parents for $110,000 to start a YouTube channel or something like that I really was just working for a ton of time I made my own money with Editing videos for a ton of time and bro your come up story is so crazy that I

don't think anybody watching this is thinking like oh yeah his parents put him on Snapchat you know they T me in they put him on Snapchat shows dad the agent the agent no but yeah I mean obviously I come from a very good family I can't be more blessed because of that but that was just circumstance I was dealt with and I'm so happy that I could do that But I also respect the people who came from nothing because they had to work through so much more than I could even fathom in my mind to

get to where they're at you can still claim self-made easily 100% self yeah but yeah how I mean what's your parents reaction to all this I'm sure you get asked this a lot but I mean thought it was really crazy because I'd always told them I'm going to make money and thought it's just my kid saying that like whatever he's Working on the internet playing Minecraft and the day I actually did was really surreal especially to my mom my dad's like more nonchalant get him on the P get him on the P but my mom

was is really like she has very high energy about things right so she was really like freaking like oh my gosh you did it like like what and it was insane it was like it's something like I dreamt of it or something and it was there in front of me when it was Happening when she first saw that Revenue screen and it was it was super cool and nowadays like they're just like oh H how how you doing this month how's business I'm like yeah doing good like made 100 Bands slow B like like we're

doing well we're cooking and and they're like cool like that's great but they don't want me to move out the house um which obviously I understand but yeah I don't blame him yeah it's interesting that's awesome I'm sure they're super Proud dude that's so crazy 100% it's cool it's really cool what are you actually spending your money on though honestly are you investing like I might have bought a Ry but hey I mean honestly I don't even blame you it was literally it was a onetime payment or one one time payment it was a onetime

payment but it was get on after pay yeah it was a onetime purchase of just something that I had like foreseen as something that would be really cool to have but I'm Really good with my money in the sense that it's all invested like I don't really buy things I don't really do any of that I ride off most of things like plane tickets that I come and travel with and so like I just invest in like stocks crypto all this type of stuff um no big body Beamer no big body dri I drive so

in Cypress the age of driving is 18 big body Beamer when you turn 18 I don't know I want to get a fast car but everyone's saying like I would perish if I got a fast car it's like I don't know you know I would have gone G wagon with it what kind of Ry um a GMT so like a it was like a rose gold root beer root be you're not wearing it bro wearing my Apple watch right now can humble you in the B to go Tech with it oh that's fire what so

what are you investing in like actually you said CP Video got me going CRA there you go you're eating off that say eating we're eating off inia salana salana is great Ethereum um like the general wait what can't hear TJ from there he was asking you bought you I I said uh I bought it with Jordan wels what you buy Nvidia app um cuz I've seen it went crazy probably like 400 400 right now like 700 it's not bad not bad um it's it's at 800 I thought oh D nice 790 nice ni are you

in any of the like sussy crypto group chats like do you have any Insider info on that um cuz I know bro they're pumping and dumping I'm Not in any of that stuff but one of my best friends is a day trader crypto just made half a mil yesterday off an air drop from Portal this portal coin I made 10 band off that drop yesterday I'm so happy but like he all about he going with the market and and so I just take advice from him I listen to him everything crypto I blindly listen and

then I also like learn a bit obviously bro my dream is to interview a day trader who doesn't Have a personal brand cuz then you know like they have nothing to gain bro he has not he tells me all the time like bro so happy we're not in business together so we can just tell each other everything about like what goes on in our Industries how old is he uh he just turned 20 wow yeah he's I love that guy bro he's he's has his head very straight on he's been with the same girl for

5 years going to marry her like I love how he operates his life very private very Behind the scenes and just makes money right it's so sick yeah that' be a good conversation to have but like why why would they come on you know with there's benefit because what they make a personal brand get 100K Subs what's going to happen to their trading right I mean like that just brings more eyes on their enses so people copy their trades or you know like there's no benefit to that but you want to do us a favor

hit the hit the email so but what does that Say about all the day traders who are on social media um I think there's legit ones but those ones start like things like trading firms and stuff like that to really make a lot of money um but like there's private people and public people in every area right like successful drop shippers who don't like to show their faces successful drop shippers who do showare their faces right so it's like you can't really blame someone for wanting to do a Personal brand the thing I would say

is I don't like people who do personal brands on business when they don't run a real business so like that was a big thing for me is like Snapchat is not good enough for me to run a personal brand behind I want to do something that's really like sustainable for people to respect me because like people will make fun of me if like one day Snapchat bans everything or you know cuz I'm controlled by the platform so that's Why I was like really into software and things like that and like I think software is the

biggest play bro like if instead of promoting other companies and stuff make your own software okay hear me out if Tik Tok takes away the creativity program yeah is there still use for crayo 100% Instagram YouTube shorts all that stuff so let's say you can't make money off short form you don't need to make money off AdSense Instagram you can AFF there's these like business theme Pages now so these real business theme Pages where they're like affiliating to like these courses and everything so I actually run our crayo Instagram page I've gotten us like 20

million views in our first two weeks like 40,000 followers and like that's funneled into CR like crazy and I'm not making money from Instagram directly what's your secret how are you doing we're trying to up our numbers on the short form for Nonchalant like what what are some like can you throw some out that's some sauce well I mean you guys the thing with you guys is you're lit just repping your Clips but people some of our editors are actually going in like moving stuff from one section to the other yeah so you obviously have

to make this is basic but your hook needs to be the craziest part and I mean that's just how you want to portray yourself there's people who portray themselves badly on purpose to Get more eyes on themselves and the the like the plain blank truth of like social media is like if you're a really good person and you just say like things that everyone always hears like you're not going to get that many views right we have to get radical say something CRA say something crazy they always try to get now I can see you

saying something like females can't no no no give us some hugs bro give some H I'm 15 and I'm a no But yeah bro I mean I think it's one of those things where you're just going to get so many eyes on you that eventually you're going to go viral by just everyone just knows that oh you see this clip you see this clip like impulsive doesn't really have the biggest clipping team yeah I don't really see clips of them and the reason is one because they bring crazy guests that are attract the views anyways

but a big thing that I seen impulsive do that you guys should Tap into is like they have a long form second Channel where they'll like title and thumbnail a really good portion of the pause like a 10 8 Minute portion and make that a video and so like that's hitting a whole other audience because people are watching these 8 10minute videos and that's like tapping into your that's like literally funneling into your podcast Yeah we actually started doing that and I think it's a good idea cuz I don't think I've ever like watched A

piece of short form like vertical and went and listen to the podcast but I've watched like long form Clips I think it's converts a lot better that's that's why it's cool like your part I think just keep that clipping thing going because clipping is overpowered just and you have that like brand Factor where people know who beza is and people are going to start knowing and TJ so when you start seeing these faces on when you start seeing that's the scroll stopper Yeah like that's going to be your scroll stopper like you see Andrew ton

now on Tik Tok like what is he what is he going to tell me this time you know what I mean originally was really radical but you have that brand autate didn't have that brand and he had to build it through radicalization something czy you have the brand and so that's why your first pod got so many views it was literally just beza and the boys right like it wasn't anything crazy so also One thing specifically about you is no one knows you bro like you're very mysterious kind of you post your videos and you

you don't post on Twitter you don't post on Instagram right people like people really like seeing the little nuggets you give about your personal life on the podcast and so I think that would relate really well into short firm content M that's interesting yeah TJ you taking notes where's the notepad brother brother I got the Notepad right here in the neur league so you dropped out of high school at 15 16 is when I dropped out so tell us more about it bro the reason I dropped out of High School is because I firmly believe

that I don't need it like I still hang out with my friends every day from high school I still go out with them go on runs with them I see them every day so it's not the social aspect to me it's just the aspect of me having to sit 6 hours a day in a classroom and literally Know nothing like I know the basics of everything I'd actually say I'm pretty advanced in the sense of like I'm good at math I'm good at these things because I was just generally a bit more like cohesive when

I was learning things and so I I don't see a benefit for high school a lot of people say high school is good because you're connected with people I have that like it's not like I stay in my room alone anymore and like don't talk to anyone and like never come Out so I think High School had no upside for me because I can do things like this where travel to do podcast or like go see Founders or go meet people and kind of just get ahead um as much as I can so that yeah

honestly I probably would never like say oh go drop out of high school to anybody but like for you if you're already making hundreds of thousands a month kind of makes sense yeah and like also like like I said before the big part is the social aspect Like you don't want to be a guy who isn't talking to anybody but making a lot of money I think that part for me is sorted like I have my friends from my hometown who knew me before I I did anything so it's not like I cut them off

or anything like um did that relationship change not really I think they like make more fun of me now but but yeah it's great it's good to have people that literally put you back to where you started um I was talking to TJ About this a bit before but a lot of Entre URS around them only have business friendships and like I really prioritized having friendships have nothing to do with money business success just your boys who you can have deep conversations with and have fun with you know how do you relate like let's say

your boy is not because I'm a kid like I'm a kid at the end of the day we're all into the same thing sports girls like just having fun like fooling Around like doing some illegal stuff EJ what about the girls boys but like um yeah like where is just it's not like my my like the things I like change because I made money like money is just something that whoa some extra numbers in my bank account like it's not that deep you know what I mean it's it's nothing crazy you're very levelheaded when it

comes to thinking about all of this I appreciate that I mean I try to be like there was a period Where I was a douchebag for sure when I first got the money I was like like I made it like I'm better than everyone but I realized dude if I'm like this when I meet people like my gosh I'm never really going to get anywhere and that wasn't me I was trying to play a Persona of being cuz I saw the Andrew Tates and all these people and I was like oh everyone loves him he's

acting like this I have money now let me act like this but I I think like who I am Now is what I'm showing you guys and it's like how I want to how I want to be I hope you stay like that man cuz I feel like if I had let's say a brother a little brother was your age and he made a ton of money I'd be worried that it would like ruin him I think the the cool thing about me is that it it did for a bit and then I snapped out

of it and I think it's harder to snap out of it so I've done that thing now where I did so I think now I'm at a good spot and then Like I said keeping people around me that can keep me levelheaded and not turn into kind of like an idiot who thinks he's better than everyone and I'll be fine in the long run I think no you have really good takes you said the first one you mentioned it was like oh I hope this isn't doesn't come off as immature like nothing you're saying is

immature yeah like at the end of day I'm just trying to build something that's bigger than me I think there's ego in Memory so like Kanye said this where like you don't know who built the sidewalk right such a big invention that like it's used by everyone and no one knows who did I think I want to do something like that where like I don't want anyone to kind of know me but I built something that everyone uses and I think that's whato could be because that's like it's like something that everyone wants to use

and we're slowly tapping in so yeah what are Your goals with the personal brand um like I said want to be the biggest in a finance space and oh we already yeah wait I I I don't want to sell a course that's that's my thing like I don't want to sell a course for a very long time I think there's something poetic about being the biggest and like having nothing you know yeah I mean what well hold on what why not what are your so what are your qualms there's no qualms about like Quality of

of thinking people thinking I'm a scammer I might do it like three four years after I start even when I'm already big but it's just like I feel there's even if the course is amazing and people like think this guy is not scamming or anything there's always this like subconscious thing because of how many scammers there are mhm you've you're actually the only person I think I've SE scene that no one thinks twice that you have a course it's really Interesting and I don't maybe it's just because of the type of content you made where

you came down to the viewers level on every video started a challenge but there's I think it's in the marketing there's very different ways you can Market the course and like some people are super pushy they'll like hire huge sales teams that will like pressure people into buying so the closers the Setters yeah I mean I'm not like digging on them maybe Mak sense course but I get What you're saying like but I I'm pretty sure like I know a lot of people who sell courses they're great people and I think their courses actually do

help people but there's always these Outsider preconceived notions of there's something here why is he selling a course if he could just do the business model on his own at the end of the day people want to make more money so if I can help people and make a course for them that's actually good then Everyone's kind of benefiting but yeah you're one of those and that's that's the thing I also was when I first got into YouTube I was like I'm anti- course I'm never dropping a course but then people are genuinely like commenting

yo drop a course I'm trying to like they're asking and if you're helping them and like people actually see like things feedback then there's no net negative at all literally at all because if you're not and I think also as a religious Person I know you're religious like you don't have that bone in your head of wanting to scam people or like wanting to take advantage of people I also believe in God I don't want to do that to people and so like that's why if I were to build something down the line like I

know I said this now that I would never build a course and you said the same thing what happens to my head in three years I don't know but like I know if I do I will try like my best from What I know how to make sure everyone's really satisfied because I wouldn't feel right sleeping at night knowing someone spent their hard earn money and like it was just another disappointing experience yeah I mean there's definitely a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it yeah but like there's there's a

lot of benefit in online education I don't think anybody can really argue that I mean a lot of these universities have online classes you Know it's I think and I think it's getting more and more accepted I feel like you drop a course in 2018 it was a little like what do you think about University I know you were good on it with him but then you kind of changed your point I think you got to go to Hustler's University bro that's the only way affiliate Link in the I think end of the day if

you if you want to be an entrepreneur it's something you can do and if you hav't made money yet right You're just starting from scratch if you want to be an entrepreneur you can try that out without dropping out of school right and then once you're making money like I have no qual with you dropping out of school it makes sense yeah yo if you got nothing going on you got nothing going on and you're just claiming I'm an entrepreneur I think that's wrong you know I think you should try and go get a job

somewhere get some motion somewhere I think like I think there's also like a A thing that people are starting to be like drop out of college drop out of high school and they're saying this to people who don't have anything going for them it's just like do it do it yeah and just scroll Tik Tok day like people I think people have actually been affected by that you think so I'm sure there's thousands of people that have listened to these influencers and have dropped out to build a business when they had no real stability backed

behind them I know Now that if everything goes like to zero like I told you I will have a sixf fig job I will be able to build back up just because of how much effort I've put into knowing people and building cool things so don't drop out of college or high school if you don't have anything that like you know you'll be set for see but takes like this aren't going viral we got to viral we got to we got to getop out of high school have nothing going for join hust University drop out

at Middle School matter of fact I have a friend who dropped out Middle School yeah is this more common where you're from uh no he's not from my country he's just he's a kid um his name is niik he dropped out a mid school I'm pretty sure and like he built like company worth like over 50 million he's like 19 or 20 or something crazy like that that's an anomaly like that's not normal yeah I'm pretty sure but it's it's interesting man the way like social media is turning People into like entrepreneurs and stuff it's

cool but it's like there also needs to be regular jobs you know saying this from someone like me is pretty hypocritical but there there does like but here's the thing I feel like the people watching these videos there's there's Millions there's billions of people who don't watch these videos and who aren't really interested in entrepreneurship you know what I mean I agree we're in a really closed Market Where we think everyone's eyes are on this and the 99.9% of the human race like hasn't even heard of like any of us you know they're focused on

their own lives which is cool it's cool to see like but the way like things are headed like Ai and all these things it seems that it's going to be so easy to do everything that like there will be no rich and poor it will just be like a median which is going to be interesting to see I don't know what's going to Happen you think with like Universal basic income yeah Quantum Computing is something that's going to mess up the world so like there's things with crypto where people hold billions of dollars on these

heed phrases and what Quantum Computing can do is put every single combination on Earth in one second and solve it and so like security is going to be completely destroyed and people's livelihoods I think are going to be destroyed it's interesting there's a lot Of things that so is crypto doomed I've heard like we're still kind of at least like 5 10 years away from something like that happening yeah I yeah we're we're definitely that like 5 10 years for sure bro but I got I'm talking about Quantum Computing I got no idea no but

yeah I lowkey just made that up no you're right that's that's interesting bro took a wh and he was right yeah we are five years like probably around there away from cling Computing but crypto it's interesting this bull run like I don't hear like my grandma or Grandpa talking about about it whereas last one I did I keep on hearing that take online but maybe it's just cuz the your grandma already knows about Bitcoin maybe she's tapped in already she got like a couple herras she's already invested that's the thing she got a couple ledgers

stacked out on the side table but I don't know so you think because it's not like talked about Right now that it's going to be the big one I think this might be the biggest one of all time and I'm just saying this from hearing from what I'm hearing from people uhuh but I hope it's the biggest one I'm trying to get to my bag you know are you locked in you're stacked right now yeah I'm stacking like I'm cost averaging across crypto because I think that's like the only way to really win like I

put in at the low lows and the high highs and I think I'm going to make Money regardless but I don't know if I'll make life-changing money because I'm still have that thing in the back of my head where I don't want to risk too much into it CU I don't know what's going to happen but there are degens including my friend who is just like will throw everything he has into it and if he loses he has no emotion because he's a day trader like that's what the job entails right but it's so dangerous

bro like I've heard stories of people Who will make insane amount insane amounts of money with crypto and then lose it all and they have to live with the fact that like I'm working this job at a fast food restaurant when I could have had 10 millionar and people what you should take out of this conversation is not to get into crypto I think if you win or lose you learn nothing out of crypto you need to have a business and then maybe use some of that money to make more money with crypto that's what

I see a lot of people do but don't make crypto a business model unless you're a dgen unless you're unless you're the one who's making the crypto unless you're Satoshi himself $100,000 or dinner with Iman godi $100,000 really you know why cuz I'll meet him regardless all right 50k or dinner with Iman godi probably IM dinner with Iman godi okay 50k yeah cuz I think I I'll make That regardless and I think just by meeting him I'd be able to like Source information or maybe make like a play that will probably make me more than

that yo Iman I got a $440,000 deal for you tap in call me up Tak a 20% commission you got bro that's that's chiz baby who have you met in the space I met Jordan Welch okay um who else I met that's about it Jordan Welch TJ wood B Max you and Jord wel um I've talked to Luke oh I've met Sebastian Georg you as Well I've talked to Luke Luke Belmar Luke Belmar he he got you glitching yeah I'm a glitch now you're a glitch what up yeah yeah and um um 100% yeah and

then I've have never talked to imong gaji all right well we can we can make something happen for that bro that 50 yeah it's cool it's cool knowing people that like I once was watching as a just a pure viewer and then now having this epiphany of like sitting across them it's insane bro I don't know There's something about being in your position I think you know with your come up yeah um you know we had beza here you came up at a similar age you were a little bit older but you know 16 17

18 and people respect that I think with Iman 2 like they saw the crazy numbers at 18 you know and it's like with you it's even younger now it seems to be getting younger and younger but we're about to see 9-year-olds printing a million I don't know where where does it Stop I know 15-year-olds making a million doll a month what are they doing uh Roblox maps Roblox I've heard of that yeah yeah Roblox okay explain that please people are not going to like this bro this is people are going to be pissed off bro

you're driving to work as you're listening to this roox the way gaming is moving is open sourcing models for people to make games on so like fortnite the way they're starting to make a lot of their money is by letting People make their own fortnite Maps mhm and so Roblox has been doing that model forever and these pay a ton of money so there's kids on Roblox and fortnite making ton of money like this is confirmed so they build a Roblox map and then they sell it they sell they just have a bunch of users

come and play on it and Roblox pays them yeah yeah that's roblox's whole model Roblox doesn't have their own map I'm pretty sure it's just all player models wow yeah I don't know Too much about but I know people who are in it close friends my partner Luke who I did Snapchat with like does the fortnite stuff and he's killing it over there he's doing great so that's crazy I've heard some with Minecraft servers yeah Minecraft servers do print but like Roblox and fortnite um I've heard they do well and then like um yeah like

my partner is doing great with that which is cool 15 no he's like 19 no I'm saying the but you said 50 old Roblox Maps a Million dollars a month yeah there's yeah 100% bro younger and younger bigger and bigger numbers yeah now I feel like I'm doing nothing no but where where do you think it actually stops like can a 9-year-old reason enough to be able to doesn't have the developed brain to do that I think you hit that developed brain were like 12 13 honestly see but back in the day like not back

in the day like 10 years Ago we didn't hear anything like this so we'd probably say oh it's probably only possible after like you hit 18 no but I from 12 I knew I was conscious enough to do something but I think when I was nine bro I was like you were an NPC literally an NPC bro I remember my NPC I wasn't real your NPC I was just floating around bro no 12 so 12's a good age to go ahead and start yeah I think I woke up and I'm like I'm ready time to

start clipping channels that's crazy man yeah what do You see yourself in like 5 10 years um I think I'll be like 24 and then hopefully have a wife and then bro your Math's off why 5 years you're not 24 go back to bro wait C that out that's bad he's been lying about his age bro 19 no yeah I'll be yo how did I say that what's wrong with me okay I'll be 21 you're glitching too hard bro go ahead go ahead I'll be 21 and then um I'll just keep building stuff honestly Last

year I didn't know I would do anything I'm doing this year so like I think next year I'll be doing something crazy and then it'll just compound like that the way like I guess entrepreneurs Works maybe when you're like more 5 10 years down the line it stabilizes with what you know you're going to do day to day or month to month but here I feel like I'm kind of in this like stable Zone where something could pop up tomorrow but I'm in a pretty like solid Position with this company where it's not something I

could just dip out of like it's a real company with infrastructure and like Equity value so it wouldn't make sense for me to focus on too much else um and the personal brand because it is also just a goal to be the biggest in the space for you can't do everything all at once I think you you do have to choose choose a couple lanes and go which is why like the personal Rand funnels into the Company but it also funnels into myself it's just two things that are big on doing right would you say

making content is your passion in a way yeah I I I actually love sitting down just making videos I think it's the coolest form of just like business because it comes up to your creativity if you're an interesting person that will reflect on the video you make and I'm so bro my dopamine levels go up when I post a video and then when I see a 10 out of 10 I like it's dangerous bro time to tuck into bed and not wake up until the next day but it's a fun like you said it's like

a bit of a hamster wheel but right now I'm running bro you're not doing Weekly right you're just I'm just doing whenever the next video is out right now that seems to be a week and a half two weeks maybe one week but I I think I can build infrastructure I want to be the Mr Beast of Finance but not in the way he makes content just the way in the way he Runs his team so I want to be able to pump out a video every week at the highest quality but what are your

actual like video ideas are you going to continue going with like this talking head Style video challenges I have like six challenges in the works but the way with challenges they take time right so they're all probably going to come out like at once so I have a Channel right now that I'm running up to 100K subs for a video and It's at like 95k or something that's going to be fire that's going to be cool cuz like I'm like what you did you go down to the viewers level to show them I'm doing this

from zero and you could do it too and I feel that's just literally the best model of showing someone what's possible where you're not talking to talk you're walking it as well I personally really enjoy this conversation I think we're going to need to have you back on when you're at a Million subscribers bet is that a deal thank you bro but I've been lying to you the whole time the real money printer is